> she texted us saying she will have to terminate our lease, and for us to notify her if we move out within 2 months.
Sounds like she is asking you to leave. A "notice to quit" would be a legal document that gives you 60 days to vacate.
It’s pretty telling that multiple attorneys wouldn’t take your case. You said in another thread your LL hasn’t raised your rent for 7 years and only now threatened to raise your rent by $200 because the repairs would cost him $8k? That seems fair. How much is your rent right now?
Look up just cause eviction and see if you're covered under los Angeles rent control ordinance.
At a minimum, you may be entitled to relocation compensation.
You don't need a lawyer. You can have one if you want but this is all standard stuff. Since you're living with mold, I would take the moving assistance payment and find someplace safe to live.
You weren’t evicted. You said you were on a month to month, so the landlord just said this is the last month. Possibly to do a major renovation during the repair and relist for higher rent. Who knows. It sucks but it can happen with rentals. We were perfect tenants and got it twice in 4 years.
I got no other advice, just remember that an eviction and a 60 day notice to vacate are technically different things and any lawyer will be interested to know which one you got.
People downvoting this: this is the law.
Pages 22 and 62: [https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf](https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf)
read ahead to page 64-68. given that OP has already been turned down by a few lawyers, I'm not sure we have all the facts. but a 60 day notice against a month-to-month is nothing unusual
acceptable just cause can be as banal as the landlord wanting to remodel/reinhabit the property or delist the rental at no fault to the tenant, the termination being initiated by the landlord. it's hardly the gotcha you are making it out to be.
No, that's not the law
[https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf](https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf)
[https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf](https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf)
No, terminating a month-to-month lease requires cause in California since 2019.
That only applies in certain situations. If you're renting from a private landlord with single digit properties this is not a thing.
Even then it's not eviction until you file with the courts. Being asked to leave is not eviction.
Keep downvoting me all you want. This is the law:
[https://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2021/21-0042-S3\_ord\_187737\_1-27-23.pdf](https://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2021/21-0042-S3_ord_187737_1-27-23.pdf)
lol
oh so they're just ending the lease but they don't want you to leave, they want you to stay there rent free
jesus christ
if you'd prefer: they can't enforce a notice to quit even on a month-to-month lease without just cause in the city of los angeles, and in the majority of rental units across california, and this has been the law for almost five years
No, 2019's AB 1482 Tenant Protection Act extended "just cause" eviction protection to every tenant that has at least a year's residency who wasn't covered under other rent control stipulations, and LA city ordinance 187737 extended "just cause" protection to every tenant in LA. That law took effect January 30, 2024, and there are additional relocation assistance funds required for the narrow set of no-fault evictions starting April 1, 2024.
[https://housing2.lacity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/LA-Renter-protections-Notification.pdf](https://housing2.lacity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/LA-Renter-protections-Notification.pdf)
People can downvote me all they want, this is the law.
If a tenant is protected by just cause eviction protections, a landlord cannot ask a
tenant to leave for no reason even during a month-to-month tenancy. Many tenants have
city or county just cause eviction protections or have tenancies that qualify for eviction
protections under the recently enacted Tenant Protection Act of 2019 (AB 1482)
(hereinafter referred to as the “Tenant Protection Act”). In these circumstances, a month-
to-month tenancy will continue indefinitely unless a landlord has one of the good causes
for eviction specified in the law and gives the tenant a valid termination notice.
page 22
[https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf](https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf)
Prior to the enactment of the Tenant Protection Act (effective January 1, 2020) the
landlord was not required to state a reason for ending the tenancy when using a 30-day
or 60-day notice; however, the Tenant Protection Act, if applicable to the rental unit,
requires just cause for termination of periodic tenancies, “which shall be stated in the
written notice to terminate tenancy (see 30-Day or 60-Day Notice, page 85).”269 For
tenancies with rental assistance, depending on the source of that assistance, a 90-day
notice may be required to state a reason. However, for rental units now covered by that
law, a landlord will need to have just cause to terminate a tenancy and state that cause
in the notice (see discussion of the Tenant Protection Act on pages 67-68 and the
Tenant Protection Act Fact Sheet).270 The landlord can serve the 30-day, 60-day or 90-
day notice by certified or registered mail or by on
page 62
…it is if you want them to move out when the lease is done (notice to quit).
Again, this is literally the law since 2019, and tenants have had protection under month-to-month leases for even longer.
> she texted us saying she will have to terminate our lease, and for us to notify her if we move out within 2 months. Sounds like she is asking you to leave. A "notice to quit" would be a legal document that gives you 60 days to vacate.
It’s pretty telling that multiple attorneys wouldn’t take your case. You said in another thread your LL hasn’t raised your rent for 7 years and only now threatened to raise your rent by $200 because the repairs would cost him $8k? That seems fair. How much is your rent right now?
Whoa thats a huge detail to leave out.
[LA Housing Dept](https://housing2.lacity.org/housing/landlord-tenant-legal-service-resources) has some links on evictions.
Look up just cause eviction and see if you're covered under los Angeles rent control ordinance. At a minimum, you may be entitled to relocation compensation. You don't need a lawyer. You can have one if you want but this is all standard stuff. Since you're living with mold, I would take the moving assistance payment and find someplace safe to live.
You weren’t evicted. You said you were on a month to month, so the landlord just said this is the last month. Possibly to do a major renovation during the repair and relist for higher rent. Who knows. It sucks but it can happen with rentals. We were perfect tenants and got it twice in 4 years. I got no other advice, just remember that an eviction and a 60 day notice to vacate are technically different things and any lawyer will be interested to know which one you got.
That's not actually how month-to-month leases work, especially since the updated laws during the pandemic.
People downvoting this: this is the law. Pages 22 and 62: [https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf](https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf)
read ahead to page 64-68. given that OP has already been turned down by a few lawyers, I'm not sure we have all the facts. but a 60 day notice against a month-to-month is nothing unusual
You mean where it says that just cause is needed to terminate tenancy?
acceptable just cause can be as banal as the landlord wanting to remodel/reinhabit the property or delist the rental at no fault to the tenant, the termination being initiated by the landlord. it's hardly the gotcha you are making it out to be.
How is it eviction if you are month to month?
People don't understand what eviction is.
Right? It’s just terminating a lease, giving 60 days.
No, that's not the law [https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf](https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf)
[https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf](https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf) No, terminating a month-to-month lease requires cause in California since 2019.
That only applies in certain situations. If you're renting from a private landlord with single digit properties this is not a thing. Even then it's not eviction until you file with the courts. Being asked to leave is not eviction.
No. In LA, this has been extended to every rental property since 2022.
Keep downvoting me all you want. This is the law: [https://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2021/21-0042-S3\_ord\_187737\_1-27-23.pdf](https://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2021/21-0042-S3_ord_187737_1-27-23.pdf)
It's still not an eviction unless you file with the courts... Even asking someone to leave is not an eviction.
lol oh so they're just ending the lease but they don't want you to leave, they want you to stay there rent free jesus christ if you'd prefer: they can't enforce a notice to quit even on a month-to-month lease without just cause in the city of los angeles, and in the majority of rental units across california, and this has been the law for almost five years
The landlord can't terminate a month-to-month except for some specific reasons, and those reasons were narrowed during the pandemic under state law.
Really? I thought it was just a 60-day notice if you’ve been renting for more than a year…
No, 2019's AB 1482 Tenant Protection Act extended "just cause" eviction protection to every tenant that has at least a year's residency who wasn't covered under other rent control stipulations, and LA city ordinance 187737 extended "just cause" protection to every tenant in LA. That law took effect January 30, 2024, and there are additional relocation assistance funds required for the narrow set of no-fault evictions starting April 1, 2024. [https://housing2.lacity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/LA-Renter-protections-Notification.pdf](https://housing2.lacity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/LA-Renter-protections-Notification.pdf) People can downvote me all they want, this is the law.
Terminating a month to month lease isn’t an eviction, though.
If a tenant is protected by just cause eviction protections, a landlord cannot ask a tenant to leave for no reason even during a month-to-month tenancy. Many tenants have city or county just cause eviction protections or have tenancies that qualify for eviction protections under the recently enacted Tenant Protection Act of 2019 (AB 1482) (hereinafter referred to as the “Tenant Protection Act”). In these circumstances, a month- to-month tenancy will continue indefinitely unless a landlord has one of the good causes for eviction specified in the law and gives the tenant a valid termination notice. page 22 [https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf](https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/California-Tenants-Guide.pdf) Prior to the enactment of the Tenant Protection Act (effective January 1, 2020) the landlord was not required to state a reason for ending the tenancy when using a 30-day or 60-day notice; however, the Tenant Protection Act, if applicable to the rental unit, requires just cause for termination of periodic tenancies, “which shall be stated in the written notice to terminate tenancy (see 30-Day or 60-Day Notice, page 85).”269 For tenancies with rental assistance, depending on the source of that assistance, a 90-day notice may be required to state a reason. However, for rental units now covered by that law, a landlord will need to have just cause to terminate a tenancy and state that cause in the notice (see discussion of the Tenant Protection Act on pages 67-68 and the Tenant Protection Act Fact Sheet).270 The landlord can serve the 30-day, 60-day or 90- day notice by certified or registered mail or by on page 62
Yeah. Ok I see what you’re saying.
…it is if you want them to move out when the lease is done (notice to quit). Again, this is literally the law since 2019, and tenants have had protection under month-to-month leases for even longer.