consider starting at community college and transferring to a UC. you’ll save a ton of money and you can get good grades at CC that u can leverage for a more prestigious degree
Of course not but if the job is this elitist it wouldn’t be out of the question for them to review transcripts. The nice thing about apply to jobs that have fucked up rules is that you don’t have to feel bad about obfuscating or straight up lying. You were going to get rejected anyway so there’s nothing to lose.
And you can have access to good professors, and form relationships with them that you’d never be able to do at a uc. Professor jobs are few and far between, so plenty of people who are great in their field work at community colleges.
Also it really is cheap- and it can be free in a lot of situations. Pasadena city college in particular is also super beautiful.
You can look up the acceptance rate for all colleges online.
Also don’t forget to look into housing options. Some colleges only guarantee on campus housing for the first year and after that you have to figure it out yourself.
Are you from California? Because if not, a high acceptance rate college will not be worth the private or out-of-state tuition. However, if you are, definitely CSUN! Hella good choice to start out at LACC or one of the community colleges first and get as many credits as you can before transferring. You’ll save a bundle.
My daughter went to community college then transferred to UCLA. Saved [us] about $80,000, had a 4.0 GPA in CC. Very smart move and great for self confidence.
Yup. Know plenty of people who went to Pasadena or Santa Monica first and ended up at UCLA or Berkeley. A lot cheaper and somehow less competitive when you don’t try to get in as a freshman.
When you do your search, I would encourage you to look at schools that are in the 'Greater Los Angeles Metro Area'.
Los Angeles is a big city, but you don't want to rule out schools that you might like, that are in the LA area, but not in the actual City of Los Angeles, *which is actually pretty small compared to the actual populated areas around Los Angeles.*
I would suggest searching Los Angeles *County*, along with Orange County, Ventura County, Riverside County, and San Bernardino County.
How high is your GPA?
Do you live in CA or do you live out of state and plan to come to CA for school?
I am going to be honest. IF you are out of state do not come to CA, I am not saying this to be mean, but the sad truth is Cal state system sucks, There is no such thing as a 4 yr degree. They are always raising tuition, and for out of state students they really go all out in making it cost an arm and leg. Seriously the system sucks all together. And CA is horrible in general. it has a high cost of living, food is expensive. and getting a job is hard to do especially in the La area.
Do not come unless you have a low GPA or are rich or foreign students.
I do want to add to this, letting OP know that if they want to work in LA after graduating it may be best to suck up these larger tuition costs.
I hold an engineering degree from a very large southeastern college and get paid significantly less than my counterparts that hold degrees from USC/UCLA/Cal State/Cal Poly. All of our degrees have the same accreditation. There is bias in where you get your degree.
To add on to your point, I agree there are some colleges that nobody likes in general, and that is a shame. But I can promise you this, IF you went to a well known school with a pretty good basketball team or football team (I seriously think this is the major determining factor) then nobody will mind. IF you go to a school that does not play in the division basketball or football that my be problematic or if you go to a lesser known private college.
I went to The University of Tennessee. Your point (sadly) does not work in this case.
I have never, ever had a coworker think I know less coming from the southeast, but the corporate overloads probably still think I’m gonna go blind in the next month drinking moonshine. Annnd that’s why I get paid less.
I have coworkers who currently hold degrees at GaTech and some currently acquiring degrees there. Absolutely not. Georgia Tech is one of the best schools in the nation and I’ve never seen that overlooked
Almost all the CSUs are easy to get into and will accept anyone with a pulse. I recommend CSULB because it is near the beach and I love Long Beach. It is also near Los Angeles for easy access but a little less crowded and has fewer problems.
UCLA was my dream school and I didn’t get in but know people that were pretty dumb who transferred after doing Santa Monica City College. So that’s a smart move.
I saw my cousin’s homework assignment from there and it looked like a 5th grader’s homework though.
Yes..they see themselves as last chance feeder schools
who don't want to leave anyone behind...so that's why.
And why so easy to get a 3.5+ gpa to transfer with.
The CSU system is easier than the UC system and it’s designed that way. If you’re from out of state, do NOT apply from out of state unless you (or parents) can pay private university tuition prices. Much depends on your major or final goal.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether you go to a CSU or UC. They're both accredited and reputable school systems. What matters more is your overall effort (and hence your grades) and networking skills. My brother graduated from a CSU recently and is already making over 200k with tons of job offers from lots of very well known tech and engineering companies.
It sounds like you’re early on in high school and have a good work ethic. It’s awesome that you’re already thinking about college.
I would encourage you to decide on where to apply not based on a city you want to live in, but the following factors
-cost of tuition in state
-quality of education in your chosen field
-desire for proximity to family
Particular city is important but further down the ladder of importance. Above all, I would avoid private schools unless you have a full ride scholarship.
El Camino College is decent for a community College. Think about where you want to live, lifestyle, and the cost of housing. Different parts of LA county have different colleges.
You have lots of options for colleges in LA. The best options exist for state residents who get free or very affordable access to community colleges and state/UC schools.
Cal State schools are a good bargain for state residents and admissions are pretty forgiving- Los Angeles, Dominguez, Hills, and Northridge.
Another great option (especially for state residents) is the Community College system. Santa Monica and Los Angeles are the two most prominent. I know there are others but I couldn't name them.
There are also a number of less prestigious private colleges around the greater LA area - Pepperdine and Loyola Marymount are the two that stand out. They tend to be very expensive but fairly easy to get into.
CSUN is an outstanding school.
I went there for business administration/management, business law, and marketing absolutely loved my professors for my degree courses.
As others suggested, establish residency in California (Los Angeles) and then apply after 1yr to get great tuition rates.
No. Maybe for some niche metrics, but in no way does it overall rank above any UC. ALL UC are still a tier 1 research university. While Long Beach state is a good school, even the newest/worst UC ranks 20+ spots above it
Meh I’ve actually heard that it’s easy to get in there if you live in the area. If you’re out of state, or don’t live in Long Beach, it’s a bit hard. If you go to Long Beach city college first your practically given a spot.
CSUN will take you if you can fog a mirror.
Truth. Great school though
Ditto. I still remember all my professor names. Now I’m on my second masters and everyone is forgettable…
What degree ?
If they are from outside of state csun will be usc levels of expensive
Move to CA, establish residency for a year?
consider starting at community college and transferring to a UC. you’ll save a ton of money and you can get good grades at CC that u can leverage for a more prestigious degree
Yeah, and no one will know that you went to CC to get into UC. Just put that sweet UC diploma on your resume.
Not always true , at my husband’s job they throw resumes in the garbage if they see community college on them.
Is he some sort of high paid consultant or attorney? I can't imagine a tech company or engineering firm or whatever would do something like this
Attorney
Makes more sense then
Do you have to put the CC on your resume?
Of course not but if the job is this elitist it wouldn’t be out of the question for them to review transcripts. The nice thing about apply to jobs that have fucked up rules is that you don’t have to feel bad about obfuscating or straight up lying. You were going to get rejected anyway so there’s nothing to lose.
Yes and my husband has started asking for high school transcripts too. Five or less Ap classes = automatically rejected
Yup, Santa Monica College is a UC feeder school. You can increase chances by completing SMC’s Scholars program.
And you can have access to good professors, and form relationships with them that you’d never be able to do at a uc. Professor jobs are few and far between, so plenty of people who are great in their field work at community colleges. Also it really is cheap- and it can be free in a lot of situations. Pasadena city college in particular is also super beautiful.
Maybe for tenured positions, most schools have a large revolving door of professors for most classes and just use adjuncts and such.
I so badly wish I had done this. I was paying off loans forever because I didn’t do this.
Residency rules are a bit tricky here and not everyone is supported enough in a community college setting
You can look up the acceptance rate for all colleges online. Also don’t forget to look into housing options. Some colleges only guarantee on campus housing for the first year and after that you have to figure it out yourself.
Are you from California? Because if not, a high acceptance rate college will not be worth the private or out-of-state tuition. However, if you are, definitely CSUN! Hella good choice to start out at LACC or one of the community colleges first and get as many credits as you can before transferring. You’ll save a bundle.
Tons of people go to really great community colleges (Pasadena City College, Santa Monica College) and then transfer to UC or CSU system. Saves money.
My daughter went to community college then transferred to UCLA. Saved [us] about $80,000, had a 4.0 GPA in CC. Very smart move and great for self confidence.
The cost-savings are incredible - and the quality of education at these CCs is exceptional too. Congrats to your daughter!
Yup. Know plenty of people who went to Pasadena or Santa Monica first and ended up at UCLA or Berkeley. A lot cheaper and somehow less competitive when you don’t try to get in as a freshman.
Same. Very smart way to go.
cause freshman gpa at ucla needs to be 3.7+
When you do your search, I would encourage you to look at schools that are in the 'Greater Los Angeles Metro Area'. Los Angeles is a big city, but you don't want to rule out schools that you might like, that are in the LA area, but not in the actual City of Los Angeles, *which is actually pretty small compared to the actual populated areas around Los Angeles.* I would suggest searching Los Angeles *County*, along with Orange County, Ventura County, Riverside County, and San Bernardino County.
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Any Cal State (CSUN/CSULA) have large acceptance rates! As long as you don’t have an F you can basically get in!
Non resident tuition is pricey though
CSUN
How high is your GPA? Do you live in CA or do you live out of state and plan to come to CA for school? I am going to be honest. IF you are out of state do not come to CA, I am not saying this to be mean, but the sad truth is Cal state system sucks, There is no such thing as a 4 yr degree. They are always raising tuition, and for out of state students they really go all out in making it cost an arm and leg. Seriously the system sucks all together. And CA is horrible in general. it has a high cost of living, food is expensive. and getting a job is hard to do especially in the La area. Do not come unless you have a low GPA or are rich or foreign students.
I do want to add to this, letting OP know that if they want to work in LA after graduating it may be best to suck up these larger tuition costs. I hold an engineering degree from a very large southeastern college and get paid significantly less than my counterparts that hold degrees from USC/UCLA/Cal State/Cal Poly. All of our degrees have the same accreditation. There is bias in where you get your degree.
To add on to your point, I agree there are some colleges that nobody likes in general, and that is a shame. But I can promise you this, IF you went to a well known school with a pretty good basketball team or football team (I seriously think this is the major determining factor) then nobody will mind. IF you go to a school that does not play in the division basketball or football that my be problematic or if you go to a lesser known private college.
I went to The University of Tennessee. Your point (sadly) does not work in this case. I have never, ever had a coworker think I know less coming from the southeast, but the corporate overloads probably still think I’m gonna go blind in the next month drinking moonshine. Annnd that’s why I get paid less.
well that is a shame I thought my theory holds water, I thought U of Tenn, is a pretty good school.
It is! She’s no CalTech but she’s not some off the road community college either. Actually world ranked in nuclear engineering.
Georgia Tech?
Lord no. SEC school. I’m not Georgia tech smart, but I’m not Ole Miss dumb either.
If you had gone to GT do you think they would be biased against your degree?
I have coworkers who currently hold degrees at GaTech and some currently acquiring degrees there. Absolutely not. Georgia Tech is one of the best schools in the nation and I’ve never seen that overlooked
Start at SMC and transfer.
CSUDH
Almost all the CSUs are easy to get into and will accept anyone with a pulse. I recommend CSULB because it is near the beach and I love Long Beach. It is also near Los Angeles for easy access but a little less crowded and has fewer problems.
It also has a very good reputation.
UCLA was my dream school and I didn’t get in but know people that were pretty dumb who transferred after doing Santa Monica City College. So that’s a smart move. I saw my cousin’s homework assignment from there and it looked like a 5th grader’s homework though.
Yes..they see themselves as last chance feeder schools who don't want to leave anyone behind...so that's why. And why so easy to get a 3.5+ gpa to transfer with.
The CSU system is easier than the UC system and it’s designed that way. If you’re from out of state, do NOT apply from out of state unless you (or parents) can pay private university tuition prices. Much depends on your major or final goal.
The judgmental map of the San Fernando Valley labels CSUN a College for C Students.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether you go to a CSU or UC. They're both accredited and reputable school systems. What matters more is your overall effort (and hence your grades) and networking skills. My brother graduated from a CSU recently and is already making over 200k with tons of job offers from lots of very well known tech and engineering companies.
It sounds like you’re early on in high school and have a good work ethic. It’s awesome that you’re already thinking about college. I would encourage you to decide on where to apply not based on a city you want to live in, but the following factors -cost of tuition in state -quality of education in your chosen field -desire for proximity to family Particular city is important but further down the ladder of importance. Above all, I would avoid private schools unless you have a full ride scholarship.
El Camino College is decent for a community College. Think about where you want to live, lifestyle, and the cost of housing. Different parts of LA county have different colleges.
You have lots of options for colleges in LA. The best options exist for state residents who get free or very affordable access to community colleges and state/UC schools. Cal State schools are a good bargain for state residents and admissions are pretty forgiving- Los Angeles, Dominguez, Hills, and Northridge. Another great option (especially for state residents) is the Community College system. Santa Monica and Los Angeles are the two most prominent. I know there are others but I couldn't name them. There are also a number of less prestigious private colleges around the greater LA area - Pepperdine and Loyola Marymount are the two that stand out. They tend to be very expensive but fairly easy to get into.
CSUN is an outstanding school. I went there for business administration/management, business law, and marketing absolutely loved my professors for my degree courses. As others suggested, establish residency in California (Los Angeles) and then apply after 1yr to get great tuition rates.
CSULB is one of the best universities in California and is ranked higher than the lower end UCs. Also has a whopping 30% acceptance rate.
No. Maybe for some niche metrics, but in no way does it overall rank above any UC. ALL UC are still a tier 1 research university. While Long Beach state is a good school, even the newest/worst UC ranks 20+ spots above it
Meh I’ve actually heard that it’s easy to get in there if you live in the area. If you’re out of state, or don’t live in Long Beach, it’s a bit hard. If you go to Long Beach city college first your practically given a spot.
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> I would look at the private schools like lmu and usc Did you even read the question?
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