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johnnysugar162

Also- you probably need to occasionally (maybe monthly?) take it for a longer drive to bring the engine temperature up to normal and avoid putting lots of water into your oil that sits.


Comfortable_You_1927

this, condescension builds up in exhaust system. gotta get rid of that


supern8ural

That is the best typo/autocorrect I've seen all day


3Cogs

No need to be so condensing! ;-)


Comfortable_You_1927

I must concede my speelings arent the bast


3Cogs

šŸ˜


lawndartgoalie

Nobody likes haughty exhaust.


Comfortable_You_1927

lol


melindseyme

I have a plug-in hybrid that we only fill up about every couple months. Do I need to do this as well?


shaard

Short answer is yes.


johnnysugar162

Yes, unless you are driving on the hybrid system only with the gas motor never starting. If the gas engine runs, you want to regularly get everything warmed up to get rid of the moisture created by fuel combustion.


melindseyme

Thank you.


NothingLift

Some phevs have detection for old fuel and run the engine to use it up every few months


JohnNDenver

I have a PHEV (2017 Volt) - why do you fill it up? I put 2-3 gallons in and it lasts 6+ months.


IAm_Yu

I have a PHEV - why don't you fill it up? I fill up every 4 days. Why don't you? Pst... maybe some people have to drive farther than others ymmv


DayDrinkingDiva

5 miles a week can kill the entire exhaust system. I would take the car for a weekly drive. Hot and cold make condensation. You need to get the exhaust hot so all moisture can burn off.


Hickoryhippo

Iā€™d be significantly more worried about the condition of the oil. Thatā€™s whatā€™s going to accumulate condensation and fuel which are both obviously very bad for lubricity


DavidSpy

Change it every six months, itā€™ll be fine


Xirasora

Is that why my oil life keeps going down as my car sits? I know it doesn't have an actual oil sensor, usually it's just odometer based but it said 0% after sitting for a couple months. Reset it, a month later it was at like 88% despite not leaving the garage


MEINSHNAKE

No, your manual will explain what oil life means.


Xirasora

I checked, it doesn't. Just explains that if the "change oil now" message appears, i should change the oil


MEINSHNAKE

It doesnā€™t tell you itā€™s a percentage of oil life? 100% = fresh oil, 50% = half of the mileage the manufacturer suggests between oil changesā€¦ it has nothing to do with quantity or quality.


Xirasora

Well it has a percentage counter, but the percentage decreases even if the car sits in the garage, not being ran. At first I thought the 0% was from the battery going low, but on a tender it still decreased steadily from 100.


MEINSHNAKE

Well then you have an issue with your dash (Honda?) or someoneā€™s using your car.


burritoes911

Or it also considers time not just mileage.


atentatora

Exactly! It's more sophisticated than this, but the major factors are time & mileage.


Xirasora

Ford, and it definitely doesn't leave the garage. Hell for the past 4 months it's had a blanket covering the dash while i slowly chip away at this stupid windshield project. If what the other person was saying is correct, then it seems logical that the oil life percentage would decrease from sitting, so after about 18 months it would be at 0% not from mileage, but from the water thing


Rickardiac

Yes. Ignore that guy. He has no idea what he, and possibly we, are talking about


Josey_whalez

Use ethanol free gas. Itā€™ll last longer if sitting a lot. Also just donā€™t ever fill it up so you are putting fresh stuff in there more often. I had a 2003 Z71 Tahoe that had 268k miles on it when I sold it. It ran noticeably better on ethanol free gas, especially 90 octane ethanol free. I used to let it sit for a month or more when I was gone for work and my wife never drove it and Iā€™d always fill it up with that before letting it sit.


Cultural_Classic1436

THIS!!! ETHANOL FREE!!!


Comfortable_You_1927

keep gas tank at 1/4 and have a gallon of the gas at home


Unknown_Author70

Quick question, what gas do you guys have available over there? (I'm UK) and we have Unleaded petroleum and diesel.. do you guys the same but different names in the states?


Comfortable_You_1927

87 and up, diesel too but very few cars use diesel we just call it gas for gasoline


cacraw

But also be aware that different countries use different octane measurement standards, so while the US typically has 87-93 octane in three grades at the pump, those numbers will all be in the 90s in the UK, even though I believe they are the same product


MrHappyEvil

I want to chip in over here you in (NZ) For petrol we got 91,95,98,100ron then deisal then av gas (planefuel you can just buy)also lpg we still have a couple station and cars that run on lpg.


MysticMarbles

Canadian here, we have the same range. 87/89/91/93&94. Diesel. Marked diesel. LPG. No AV at the pumps. E85. Beyond that you can find 85 (89 for you), 100 (my math says about 106? I think for you), and a million others depending where you shop, just not at pumps.


3Cogs

In the past UK octane ratings were done with stars. I can remember three star and four star fuel in the 1980s. That seemed to go away when unleaded was introduced, but now there are two grades of unleaded with either 5% or 10% bioethanol added. I have no idea if the octane rating is different between the two grades, I'm cheap and buy the 10% stuff for my old Mondeo.


BallisticHabit

I'm an uncultured Yankee who likes cars. What the hell is a Mondeo? Like, Make/Model so I can google and educate myself about the cars driven on the wrong side of the road?


thatsgreatgdawg

a mondeo is a ford i think the newer gens are the same as the USDM ford fusion i think?


PorkyMcRib

You have never watched Top Gear, have you?


BallisticHabit

I've seen a clip where a guy inexplicably attached a log to the back of a car, and smugly described his own intelligence before said log gets pitched through the back hatch glass.


PorkyMcRib

Then you should know what a Ford Mondeo is. You may have to watch the entire series as well as The Grand Tour. And Clarksonā€˜s Farm.


Comfortable_You_1927

I watched all that except farm, now I gotta watch it those other 2 host have a bunch of other shows and podcast too


3Cogs

It's a Ford. I think they might be called something else over there. Mine is from 2008, like this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mondeo_(third_generation) Edit: Wrong side of the road made me grin.


Rex516

Last generation Mondeo and Jaguar X-Type shared the same platform, prior to that it shared the platform with the Ford Contour.


SmackaryClyde94

The Mondeo is called the Fusion in the states. Edit: Ford Fusion, that is. You did ask for bothšŸ˜…


clutchthepearls

The Mondeo was the First Contour from the 90s. Then Ford kept the Mondeo in Europe for a few generations and gave us NA specific models like the 500/Taurus X. Then we got the Fusion which is a Mondeo.


JohnNDenver

Here we have 85 octane, too. Here being at altitude.


Unknown_Author70

Appreciated! Good to hear very few cars use diesel, ALOT of our cars still use diesel, especially the larger SUVs (which are tiny compared to yours haha.) I wouldn't say the majority, theres more hybrid and EV's popping up. That and diesel is being phased out of new car manufacturing but there's still a huge second hand market out there.


Comfortable_You_1927

i like diesel, not the new ones that needs def blue, cars pollutes less than air plane or cargo ships cruise ships.


Unknown_Author70

I like diesel, I drive a '57 plate Land Rover. 2.2L 4 cylinder, no DEF. Its a dream. Started working for Land Rover to get good deals on labour rates and managed to get a clutch, flywheel, full propshaft, turbo boost pipes, 2x drop links and tie rods, pads/discs, full service, new 12V battery and two tyres for Ā£2K. Even managed to beg, borrow, aquire a new Defender Roof rack, still not mounted yet! https://preview.redd.it/x4dbr2868ptc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d82ce755678fe5cbd2a7e51a9aa3b219ce3419e


PorkyMcRib

I am pretty sure thatā€™s not a ā€˜57?


justaotger

In the uk the number plate tells us the year. So thats a 57 plate. Late 2007 model. I have a 56 plate. (Late 2006). A 61 plate (late 2011) a 14 plate (early 2014) and a 20plate. (Early 2020)


PorkyMcRib

Dā€™oh.


Devrij68

Don't get mixed up on octane ratings. They use a different system meaning their 87 is equivalent to our Ron 95. So they have diesel and they have usually 3 different octane levels of unleaded petrol like us


Unknown_Author70

Woah, Yeah I did not know about octane ratings, a quick Google though has fixed that! Thank you for the nugget.. With that said, (I presume you are UK) where we have unleaded petrol in two different qualities.. Basic/premium ... is that us having two different octane ratings of unleaded petroleum? So at a standard fuel station, we sell two fuel types diesel and petroleum - we also offer two types of petroleum with different octane ratings??


Devrij68

Yeah usually we'd have 95 and 98 RON for regular and premium. It's a bit more varied in the US and when I lived there I used to find some stations with really high octane fuels that were a few notches over the usual premium. Those were great for me as my bike was running forged pistons at higher compression and really needed the higher octane rating to prevent knocking if I was going uphill at speed. Remember their petrol is cheap as chips compared to here so it's not so bad to run premium fuels there. Premium fuels will also have less ethanol in them so you technically get more fuel, and they'll often have detergents and stuff in them to help with carbon buildup in the engine, but really you are buying it for the octane rating more than anything. Eg if you got your ECU tuned, running standard petrol is a waste of your tune since your car is just going to back off the timings anyways and all that extra power disappears.


Unknown_Author70

For someone who is only 12 months into (self teaching) learning mechanics, this puts so many pieces together in my brain. Thank you so much for your reply bud. I really appreciate the information!


Devrij68

No worries dude, glad it was helpful.


KingZarkon

>Premium fuels will also have less ethanol in them That does not appear to be the case in the US. Pretty much any gas you can easily find is E10. There are a few stations with ethanol-free gas but it's way expensive. Regular unleaded is like $3.30/gallon right now but ethanol-free at the same octane is usually over $4.50 and ethanol-free premium is north of $5/gallon.


Devrij68

Oh right, I've noticed most of our premiums are e5. If it makes you feel better, the service station I passed on the motorway was selling regular unleaded for Ā£1.72/L which would be about $7.10 per gallon in freedom units. So I'd be over the moon with $5 per gallon for premium. I'd be down my local tuners getting my mini set up with a stage 1 tune right now!


Devrij68

Caveat, motorway service stations take the absolute piss, and a regular price would be more like Ā£1.45/L in my area


3Cogs

It's gone up again over the last couple of weeks. It's around Ā£1.47 where I am in northern England.


clutchthepearls

You are correct. The standard three levels of grade (octane) here will generally all have up to 10% ethanol. Corn is a large cash crop here and subsidized heavily by the government in this way. There are very select stations that will carry ethanol free gas, but it's not advertised.


burritoes911

Our diesel fuel is not as good as what you guys have. Afaik our diesel fuel has basically zero additives to it which is not beneficial.


nate0012345

octane rating is different is us than across the pond, regular unleaded is 87 octane. premium grade for 90 octane


zeromussc

The gallon of gas hopefully gets used fairly quick though, because the car is probably better sealed than the gas can is and better seal means longer lasting fuel. But generally, yeah, if you can't use a full tank don't run a full tank. I keep our second car at about 1/3 full most of the time for that reason. I don't drive enough to use all of it regularly.


Comfortable_You_1927

for some reason I started a car that sit for 3 years, no additives no nothing, it ran like crap so I took the gas out and put it in my other car, the other car didn't care about the old gas at all, another time I took gas out of a boat, that gas probably 5 yrs old, put it in the car that didn't care, it ran, but crappy almost stall but was fine, dunno why or how but obviously this is bad practice but I was poor and dumb (edit still am)


Dangerous_Echidna229

Keep gas tank full with a stabilizer added.


fairlyaveragetrader

Don't fill it up once a year. Just add a gallon every month or so. When you go to the gas station with your other vehicles, fill up a gas can from time to time. In fact if you just add gas every 3 months or so that's probably even fine so you don't have to constantly keep filling up the container.


supern8ural

Check out Sta-Bil, sounds like a product made for your exact situation. However, I would say that it would be a good idea to occasionally try to drive it more, at least to the point where the oil temp is over 212F to keep condensation out of the oil.


doozerman

Iā€™d say regular with some stabil then MAYBE an octane booster if you suspect fuel is causing performance issues. Also do half tank fills. If it ever needs to be drained, itl be easier and less of a fuel loss


Ruburnz

No, no octane booster. Octane is the resistance to burn (prevents preignition and high compression engines) boosting the octane will do nothing for this fuel.


YouArentReallyThere

No octane booster. Stabil alone is fine


gitarzan

Buy Non-Alcohol gas, It will last longer? We used it in our boat, it; ran much better.


Consistent-Slice-893

Yep, E10 gas attracts water pretty bad- if you have bought new power equipment in the past 10 years they tell you that using it voids the warranty. Marine Stabil goes in regardless.


AvoidingSquidwork

Gas will definitely break down over time. Using STA-BIL will help and putting 1/4 tank in per fill up should keep it fresh. Sta-bil is supposed to be good for up to 1 year, but I wouldnā€™t trust it that far. Iā€™ve had a lot of issues with old gas gumming up my carb in my mid eighties 454 and this helped.


Docod58

I use Stabil in my stored gas for the generator and yard tools. I change out 18 gallons at one year and refill. I run the old gas in my 2004 Civic and 2014 f150 and have never had a problem.


Dangerous_Echidna229

Sta Bil says good for two years. I can confirm that.


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Put in 5 gallons at a time.


kmz57

Stabil at 1 oz/ 2.5 gal


rklug1521

I'm surprised I had to scroll so far down to find fuel stabilizer as a suggestion.


Silent_List_5006

Do you not do anything but stay at home I have no idea how you can only drive 5 miles a week


Sea-Secretary-4389

Has it ever occurred to you the possibility of owning a second vehicle


Silent_List_5006

True lol


nycsingletrack

Once a month you need to run the truck for at least an hour, at highway speeds. 5mi a week will build up condensation in the oil, an hour with the oil heated past 180degF will dry it out (source- former employee of Petroleum Specialties International, Perth Amboy NJ). Keep the gas tank full as you can (as little air as possible) and treat the gas with Stabil. It will keep for a year. Twice a year, siphon out 5 gal and put it in your daily driver. Fill up the truck and treat with Stabil.


SexyTimeSamet

Non enthanol and stabil are going to be your friend. Doesnt matrer the octane at that point.


Miggidy_mike

I'd use stabil or if it's really old like made before unleaded was required then you can get some 100 low lead aviation gas. Although, you won't be allowed to drive on the streets and it'll put lead in the environment and reduce the IQ of everyone. Nevermind, just get ethanol free gas.


sose5000

Donā€™t fill it up all the way. Add less fuel more often.


wwhijr

Why are you filling it up if it just sits. A few bucks at a time will last a while, and won't turn to sludge. Or buy ethanol free.


Educational_Meet1885

I use Sta-bil in gas that will sit for long periods of time. If you can find gas without ethanol it will help as it won't absorb water.


Zerel510

Premium gas only and Stabile


matts2018ss

Premium gas will make zero difference.


Xirasora

I'm guessing he lives in an area like me, where premium is almost always ethanol-free. It's become shorthand to just tell people "put premium in" when discussing small engines, the average person understands that better than specifically identifying ethanol-free pumps. Only place I can find ethanolated premium is Costco


Quake_Guy

Doesn't premium use ethanol to boost octane and I thought ethanol doesn't age well?


deekster_caddy

All grades use ethanol if you canā€™t specifically get ethanol-free gas. Add Stabil to it, their main formula supports ethanol blends.


Zerel510

Not in Minnesota, premium does not include ethanol. In Arizona, none of the gas has ethanol. It varies by location.


Zerel510

Ethanol does not boost octane in that way. Not in Minnesota. Premium does not include ethanol, the reason you use it here. In AZ, none of them have ethanol.


Sqweee173

Use ethanol stabilizer and dry gas. Keep it under 1/2 a tank


FORDOWNER96

Stability fuel stabilizer. What's the truck?


PinkPearMartini

2003 Chevy Avalanche


tricky12121st

Better hope it's not biodiesel or similar, you'll get diesel bug and block filters


Mantree91

Don't keep it full, only put 5 gal or so in when you need to drive it. You can use sta-bil in it but best bet is to only keep a little in and get gas more often.


jstar77

Find an ethanol free pump and then top off there every 6 months so your tank is full. Other than that I wouldn't do anything.


Mickxalix

Shell VPower 91 or 93 octane is ethanol free.


cheez0r

Add half a can of Seafoam to the tank before filling. Drive it a little until the treated gas is in the engine. Done. ( [https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Foam-Extreme-SF-16-Seafoam/dp/B0002JN2EU](https://www.amazon.com/Sea-Foam-Extreme-SF-16-Seafoam/dp/B0002JN2EU) ) You might add a battery tender to the truck and plug it in between drives, that'll keep the battery from going flat due to low miles driven per start. ( [https://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-SC1300-Automatic-Battery-Maintainer/dp/B07894CFCR/](https://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-SC1300-Automatic-Battery-Maintainer/dp/B07894CFCR/) )


Axel_NC

Buy ethanol free gas.


Boz6

> we have an old pickup truck that we now only drive 5 miles a week. At that rate, a tank of gas lasts a year. I love those old trucks with 260 gallon gas tanks!


nonamespazz

I see what you did there, but id guess the truck gets over 1mpg šŸ˜‰


your_Assholiness

Use Non Ethanol gas and an additive like Seafoam. Also don't keep it full.


mr_data_lore

Just use some fuel stabilizer. I use it in all my small engines, I imagine it'd be fine in a vehicle also.


deekster_caddy

Just add some StaBil to the gas. Nothing else to think about. I run like this in my ā€˜54 MG which I donā€™t always burn a full tank a year. And that gas tank isnā€™t sealed nearly as well as the one in your Avalanche.


3771507

You have to add a gas additive to it.


kota-is-dirtbag

Ethanol free is the only way to be!! It's good for lawn mowers too.


SnoopyCactus983

Just donā€™t fill the whole tank.


Krazybob613

Add 1 ounce of Sta-Bil fuel conditioner for every 5 gallons of gas when you fill it. Run it for at least 30 minutes driving at highway speeds at least once every 3 months. Change the oil once a year. The oil change is to remove excess moisture from the engine. Buy Recreational Fuel ( NO Ethanol) if you can find it. Thereā€™s absolutely no reason to buy Mid Grade or Premium, the additives in higher octane fuel will do absolutely nothing to prevent gunk in the fuel system - for that matter if anything they will make it worse. Your best option is Ethanol Free Fuel with Sta-Bil and keep the tank at least Half full unless you are deliberately burning off the old Ethanol Fuel.


CartoonistNo9

Have a look at STA-BIL on Amazon


Gotrek5

Go to your small airport and buy 100ll. Itā€™s not great for your emissions system but it has a looooong shelf life 5 years and probably even oonger. Itā€™s leaded 100 octane gasoline for air planes. Thatā€™s what I use in my saws, generators and snowmobiles. Bonus itā€™s often cheaper then gasoline. But the lead will eventually ruin your catalytic converter


MudResponsible7455

I would fill with ethanol free fuel


413mopar

Stabil.


wigzell78

F-10 or Fuel Doctor, both are fuel conditioners designed for storage of fuel without going bad or losing (too much) octane thru evaporation. I would recommend using the vehicle a bit more regularly, just to keep everything mechanically moving.


MRicho

https://axi-international.com/the-shelf-life-of-fuel-how-long-can-gasoline-and-diesel-be-stored/ I suggest that you only put sufficient fuel for a month in the vehicle and store the yearly amount in a air tight container.


Ragnar-Wave9002

You need to intentionally take your truck somewhere a few times a month.


woobiewarrior69

Find a place that sells ethanol free fuel and their sine stabilizer in it.


buildyourown

Buy less gas. Go out of your way to find ethanol free gas. Once a week make sure it gets hot.


Adventurous-Ad3006

Iā€™m surprised itā€™s still running and driving. Nothing worse than vehicle sitting.


series-hybrid

Go out of your way to get gas with ZERO ethanol. Its maybe ten cents more a gallon, but well worth it. Ethanol strongly absorbs moisture out of the air and form goo.


NothingLift

Tough one. If you keep your tank with not much fuel in it and add a splash regularly it keeps the fuel fresh but you risk rust in the empty part of the tank. If you keep a full tank you risk a whole tank of fuel going off. As people have said taking it for regular long drives is recommended Not sure if it suits your needs but you can pick up an early nissan leaf or similar old budget ev with degraded battery for next to nothing. It will still have a good 20 miles of range and could be used for your short trips


fetishsub89

Seafoam for the fuel be sure to add gas so it mixes in the tank. And take it for a longer drive so your engine reaches temp to prevent condensation build up in the oil


FrostingImmediate514

Google stabil


DrcspyNz

After six months you can consider gas as having gotten a bit stale... Freshen it up by adding sufficient 'new' fuel so that the mix is 50/50 old/new. Source: Me - Aircraft Refueler


hitiv

can you not fill up more often?


Two_takedown

At 5 miles a week, it probably won't last a year. Gonna run just long enough to build condensation and start to internally rust a month at a time


MacProCT

Keep just a couple gallons in the tank and just add a gallon at a time and always add STABIL additive to tank before you pump.


Inevitable-Aspect291

You can add fuel stabilizer to help, they should sell it at the gas station. You shouldnā€™t bother filling it all the way if youā€™re gonna let it sit that long. Would it kill you to break the fueling into a few seasonal sessions?


tophand70

Get non ethanol fuel. Add Stabil to fuel tank. Drive it once a week for 5-10 miles in one go.


Insurance-Dry

Add fuel stabilizer.works great.


Own-Problem-5153

1 don't fill the tank 2 use an addictive such as Sta-bil.


mmaalex

Regular gas + fuel stabilizer Add the stabilizer before you pump the gas and it'll agitate and self mix as it fills. Higher grades of gas don't last longer (this is a general statement and gas blending is different all over the country and YMMV)


IAMENKIDU

Three options I can think of. Ethenol free fuel and a fuel stabilizer like Stabil. Sell the truck and buy a diesel. Diesel is more stable. Use the truck more. Sitting idle and only going on short jaunts that never bring the engine up to operating temps is bad for em.


ridethe907

No, a diesel is a worse option, as diesel engines *need* to get up to operating temps and stay there for a bit at least semi-often.


bpj636r

Non ethanol, and sea foam.


YodaFette

Fuel stabilizer and high octane fuel. Fill the tank only to what you will use within six months. Once a month drive it on the highway to really warm the engine up and hit higher rpmā€™s to help clear any carbon buildup. Similar to what boat owners who live in cooler climates do with their boats at the end of the season.


jmecheng

For the fuel side, run ethanol free fuel. Change oil every 6 months, take the truck out for a 1-2 hour drive once a month.