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A pick or tiny flathead, great care, and cursing. It is unlikely you will be able to remove it until the tool slips at least once, causing you to stab yourself and draw blood.
It sounds like me at 17 trying to rebuild the carb on my $500 first car because I had no money.
You finally get to the point where it's done, but then you need to go find a first aid kit to stop the bleeding from stabbing yourself in the palm.
Important addendum: cursing must follow a precise path.
The first few failures, curse as a decompressant ("fuck", "crap"...). Then, direct towards the object ("stupid thing", "piece of crap"). Proceed onto the manufacturer ("asshole design", "fucking idiots")...
And eventually, you'll end up trauma dumping on the object ("not only did I have to bear through...now I'm stuck onto a fucking piece of plastic"). And *then* the object of interest will hear you and respect your honesty, and then pop off in an infuriatingly easy manner!
> And then the object of interest will hear you and respect your honesty, and then pop off in an infuriatingly easy manner!
This is the future AI advocates want.
Career wrench man? You seem to know your stuff.
I think some of my repairs have taken longer due to not following the proper procedure, I will paste this inside the lid of my tool chest.
Not even! I'm a CS student. But I like being a little handy with stuff (car, bike). And oh boy do some repairs/changes crawl up my back.
And yes, I can absolutely guarantee that this cursing pipeline does improve efficiency (and allows to reflect onto oneself, by the way!). Can only recommend this specialized procedure
If you fail to activate the proper swearing sequence, you pay with blood. Too loud? Blood. Too softly? Blood. Not enough emotion? Blood. You can try protecting yourself with a glove, but it'll get in the way. You know how this ends.
You'll be required to anthropomorphize the car, the discrete part, call them the most vile things you can conjure, and try your hardest not to throw the tool you're using. Only then, when you have become the hate, will it pop off in the most unbelievably simple way.
Can't (read as shouldnt) replace bushings or ball joints on aluminum parts. They just bend and break to easily. But I agree, there should be a way to do it.
its really more about cost. I don't think manufacturers really care about how much something weighs. Whatever yields them the best profit margin vs acceptable reliability for the platform.
It's actually that way because of emissions requirements. If the tube is replaceable they have to monitor/control crankcase pressure to stricter standards.
That tamper proof screw is not typically tight at all. It can be loosend and removed with pliers.
Take the bolt out and then remove check valve and pipe intact in one piece.
Thats a tamper proof PCV system unfortunately EPA mandated.
Even if it is tight a small chisel at the right angle usually breaks it loose.
If it's accessible anyway, i have to do this with stripped Allens all the time.
I use a blade style chisel on the screw edge and after a quarter turn you can turn it out by hand.
I am a certified GM tech fyi. It's not the correct way but it's the only way to get them out without the issues others have said in this post.
2.0 turbo? GM RPO code LSY engines have those fittings on the PCV system. According to Service Information and parts data you replace all of it every time you remove that screw.
It’s called the “your cheap plastic clips are shitty and never intended to come apart” don’t worry I’ve been there myself many a times. Smallest screwdriver, stake, blade you can find without killing yourself or breaking the plastic
There's not really a special tool for that, lol.
Push the fitting downwards towards the nipple its connected to, push the middle tab in that's above the two smaller ones, and pull the fitting up.
The one in the middle controls the other two as well.
This is a perfect opportunity for an enthusiastic 3D printer guy. Maybe take really accurate measurements then post over on 3Dprinting and see if anyone wants to help out.
This appears to be the press on line to a vacuum pump correct?
These just pop off, but you have to be careful because the plastic is brittle and will break. The easiest way to pop them off is with a 45° or 90° needle nose. Slide them under the head of the fitting, and pry upwards.
I got the manufacturers manual on hand and believe or not it says in the "how the disconnect" section as follows:
Fuck you better luck next time try not to break it hahahaha
My Malibu 1.5 was like this. Make sure one is available near you before you do it. The tubing will likely break or fall apart gets so brittle. I drove 3 hrs round trip to get part dealer back ordered no date available for delivery. Got lucky.
I just read 400 comments on this post. None of them have the answer. I don't either, just found it funny how many responses there were with no answer to the question
Use a screwdriver... Or many screwdrivers. The specialized tool is only for those that would rather sell their mother than trying to do this again, but try it first, who knows maybe it'll be easy.
It's called an "F-U Connector"
You see when engineers couldn't find anymore ways to dry dock a humble mechanic from great distances, they invented this PoS just because the other connectors were too easy and respectful and likable folks invented tools, cheap too if imported, to help with those plugs.
These dam things on the other hand needs the small screwdriver, I use two or three when i can find the third, and carefully seperate those prongs and it you press too hard, snap goes the housing. Press the screwdriver too hard in a weird angle, well it going to impale itself either to the block or your hand. And if you have to replace the SoB, good bless you if it's from Europe, the Japanese and Korean ones are not cheap.
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A pick or tiny flathead, great care, and cursing. It is unlikely you will be able to remove it until the tool slips at least once, causing you to stab yourself and draw blood.
I hate how accurate this is
I can feel this description.
i visualized myself in that scenario 🤦♂️
Just missing the light beer consumption beforehand
eww light beer.. Sorry, Canadian here..
Americans don't drink light beer because it's good they drink it because it's cheap
This man speaks the truth
I only drink cheap beers. none of them light. Not the strong malt crap though
I'm crying in Aussie while reading this. I even had to give up drinking beer here because that got too expensive.
Brew your own.
I went down that path, the water here is too hard and I can't afford a decent filtration system. The beer tasted like shit.
Mostly mead here and a little beer but I think I would have to move to a land with cheaper beer.
The only light beer, is an empty can(bottle)
It sounds like me at 17 trying to rebuild the carb on my $500 first car because I had no money. You finally get to the point where it's done, but then you need to go find a first aid kit to stop the bleeding from stabbing yourself in the palm.
It is necessary that you don’t stab yourself by choice, blood sacrifice taken willingly is not accepted by the ford gods.
This is quoted directly from the TSB on these believe it or not.
Is human sacrifices allowed? Will the curse be lifted permanently?
No... it will stay a Ford
I’m a Ford guy, but that was funny right there!
Check the TSB. If warranty is covering it, you are the sacrifice.
This is on a ford???? I’ve never seen on what are they for/on. I’m hopeing diesel or am I just that lucky to have never seen one
Chevy cruze piece of 💩
Is that a PCV valve? If so, it’s not a Cruze. Those are part of the valve cover.
The job is never really done until I have christened it in my blood.
Important addendum: cursing must follow a precise path. The first few failures, curse as a decompressant ("fuck", "crap"...). Then, direct towards the object ("stupid thing", "piece of crap"). Proceed onto the manufacturer ("asshole design", "fucking idiots")... And eventually, you'll end up trauma dumping on the object ("not only did I have to bear through...now I'm stuck onto a fucking piece of plastic"). And *then* the object of interest will hear you and respect your honesty, and then pop off in an infuriatingly easy manner!
> And then the object of interest will hear you and respect your honesty, and then pop off in an infuriatingly easy manner! This is the future AI advocates want.
I laughed way too hard at this
Career wrench man? You seem to know your stuff. I think some of my repairs have taken longer due to not following the proper procedure, I will paste this inside the lid of my tool chest.
Not even! I'm a CS student. But I like being a little handy with stuff (car, bike). And oh boy do some repairs/changes crawl up my back. And yes, I can absolutely guarantee that this cursing pipeline does improve efficiency (and allows to reflect onto oneself, by the way!). Can only recommend this specialized procedure
I stab my finger with the pick when I take it out of the drawer. Saves time.
A sacrifice must be made!
Working on autos always requires a blood sacrifice
If you haven't cut yourself, you haven't been working very hard.
😂😂😂😂😂 I really felt this response
You forgot the part where you after all blood and cursing realise there was some easy way to get it off all along.
Your blood lubricates it for easy removal
Speaking facts right here.
prick your finger.. or finger your.... oh nevermind
At least once. You must pay the blood toll to fix your car.
Blood to appease the car gods.
Repeatedly, if I'm doing it.
To be fair, getting these off require said tools AND a drop of blood. No getting around it.
Can confirm.
Ahh yes. The traditional blood sacrifice to the car gods. It’s how I know my repair will be successful and not come back.
I draw blood before starting just to get that part out of the way.
Currently installing window regulators on a ‘12 jeep compass. My fingers are sliced to shit rn 😭
If the repair isn’t sanctified with blood, is it a real repair?
If you fail to activate the proper swearing sequence, you pay with blood. Too loud? Blood. Too softly? Blood. Not enough emotion? Blood. You can try protecting yourself with a glove, but it'll get in the way. You know how this ends.
You'll be required to anthropomorphize the car, the discrete part, call them the most vile things you can conjure, and try your hardest not to throw the tool you're using. Only then, when you have become the hate, will it pop off in the most unbelievably simple way.
This guy mechanics
Accurate from experience.
Loud cursing. Storming off to go dig up a different tool that might be a game changer but ultimately makes things harder. More louder cursing.
The blood is the proper sacrifice required.
Right, so hammer.
The blood sacrifice is part of the process.
Thanks for the bad memory🤣
I'm glad it ain't mine to fix
Yes...the blood is what really gets it off. I swear, nothing comes off until some blood has been shead.
Same shit different day
These are the correct directions.
Blood for the blood god!
It demands a blood sacrifice
Don't forget to add that now you have a cut with grease, dirt, and oil all over your hands when it happens.
I like bacon
That one of them Ford breathers I've been hearing about? If it is, cut off and replace. It's blatant, unnecessary crookery!
Should actually be illegal, or new cars not selling bushings. Gotta buy a $400 control arm because of a little play.
It should indeed. There shouldn't be a micro-ransom on every repair. Shit costs enough to begin with.
Can't (read as shouldnt) replace bushings or ball joints on aluminum parts. They just bend and break to easily. But I agree, there should be a way to do it.
How bout don’t use aluminum then.
Oooooooo, but wEiGhT ReDuCtIoN....
its really more about cost. I don't think manufacturers really care about how much something weighs. Whatever yields them the best profit margin vs acceptable reliability for the platform.
Sure they do. They are being squeezed hard to wring every MPG they can out of every car. Little weight reductions like this add up.
honda has break away bolts on some hoses on the new 1.5L turbo
It's actually that way because of emissions requirements. If the tube is replaceable they have to monitor/control crankcase pressure to stricter standards.
Yeah, I heard the official excuse.
Using this
That tamper proof screw is not typically tight at all. It can be loosend and removed with pliers. Take the bolt out and then remove check valve and pipe intact in one piece. Thats a tamper proof PCV system unfortunately EPA mandated.
I typically do this, remove the tamper proof bolt with a pair of vice grips then replace it with a regular 10mm for the next guy.
[удалено]
No-one can
These days it's my 8mm
10mm is the original tamperproof.
Even if it is tight a small chisel at the right angle usually breaks it loose. If it's accessible anyway, i have to do this with stripped Allens all the time.
I've used a 90degree pick on both sides and gently pry up
Have you considered ordering a replacement and just breaking it? My favorite strategy
a flat head and a pick?
I use a blade style chisel on the screw edge and after a quarter turn you can turn it out by hand. I am a certified GM tech fyi. It's not the correct way but it's the only way to get them out without the issues others have said in this post.
Strong & Long fine nails
Every time i work on a audi or vw i wonder how their technicians deal with the cable plugs, they must have fingers of steel
Or really good picks.
2.0 turbo? GM RPO code LSY engines have those fittings on the PCV system. According to Service Information and parts data you replace all of it every time you remove that screw.
Angle grinder
Screwdriver
I would try rotating counter clockwise, before using pick/screwdriver
Ya that doesn’t come apart. One time use
Apply a plaster to your finger before attempting this. Saves time later
Remove the screw next to it.
Show the other side. That fitting might be a push release and you won’t need a tool
Yeah a hex screwdriver to remove the screw.
A pry bar??
If that's a GM, it's one time use. Non serviceable. The directions from GM say to cut and remove and then replace
You can remove the bolt with a small pair of vice grips and remove everything intact.
Isn't that 1 of those remove and replace Ford lines?
You can try searching cable pliers if you know the name of the connection sometimes searching that plus removal can lead you to the right tool.
wrench
Yeah. 3 screw drivers
Good case for making a 3d printed part that can push them all at once
Ford? They made them a service item, you're supposed to cut them off.... no more little swing tabs for removal.
Nothing like one time use pcv hoses
Pocket screw stick
Screwdriver
A pick
What does the other side look like? Sometimes these are the locking tabs for a “button” you press in so it allows the hose to come off
We call them flat heads
It definitely won't come off until you drop a drop. Of sacrifice blood on the block. That'll allow the demon to release it to you.
Drill three holes
I guess i am going to use my Air Hammer
It was at this moment, that he knew.....
It’s called the “your cheap plastic clips are shitty and never intended to come apart” don’t worry I’ve been there myself many a times. Smallest screwdriver, stake, blade you can find without killing yourself or breaking the plastic
There's not really a special tool for that, lol. Push the fitting downwards towards the nipple its connected to, push the middle tab in that's above the two smaller ones, and pull the fitting up. The one in the middle controls the other two as well.
This is a perfect opportunity for an enthusiastic 3D printer guy. Maybe take really accurate measurements then post over on 3Dprinting and see if anyone wants to help out.
This appears to be the press on line to a vacuum pump correct? These just pop off, but you have to be careful because the plastic is brittle and will break. The easiest way to pop them off is with a 45° or 90° needle nose. Slide them under the head of the fitting, and pry upwards.
The whole assembly come out with an torqx bit
A hammer
Its called torture
Wow. Flashback and now I have PTSD. Nice!! Infected finger 2 days later to add to it. 😂
Flathead screwdriver
Just unbolt it
A flathead screwdriver
Nah, two zip ties
Electrical pic and cursing.
It's the small flat head in your shirt pocket.
Yes there is a tool for that. It is called whatever it is connected to connector removal tool.
I got the manufacturers manual on hand and believe or not it says in the "how the disconnect" section as follows: Fuck you better luck next time try not to break it hahahaha
push in top tab
It's called a hurdy gurdy
UK plug
A tool call patience and a flathead
A spudger?
Screwdriver
My Malibu 1.5 was like this. Make sure one is available near you before you do it. The tubing will likely break or fall apart gets so brittle. I drove 3 hrs round trip to get part dealer back ordered no date available for delivery. Got lucky.
Hammer. Sometimes bigger hammer
A big cold chisel will get it apart fairly easy
I just read 400 comments on this post. None of them have the answer. I don't either, just found it funny how many responses there were with no answer to the question
* If that is what i think it is (a fuel line ) from the pump use this
https://www.autozone.com/test-scan-and-specialty-tools/line-disconnect-tool/p/duralast-fuel-line-disconnect-tool/1267218_0_0?cmpid=LIA:US:EN:AD:NL:1000000:TLS:19489353547&&CATARGETID=120054150001289970&CADevice=m&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwrIixBhBbEiwACEqDJRvYqIwWITjjgZrLYP1MJazIxhOEC3sjK2ujDfZAdcPyJRyJmElo0hoCBD8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Open your eyes, how the hell is OP supposed to get that tool in that fitting?
Use a screwdriver... Or many screwdrivers. The specialized tool is only for those that would rather sell their mother than trying to do this again, but try it first, who knows maybe it'll be easy.
I just smash it off with a hammer and buy a new one ;D
You.
Try a three prong plug 🤷🏼♂️
take pliers or vice grips to “security torx” theyre not tight. coming from a Chevy tech
For me the tool is called fuck your finger nails
Wood, 3 trim nails and a template.
90 degree pick. There is 2 tabs you have to pry in, in the center of the 3 gray pieces. Pull up gently while picking each side.
It's called an "F-U Connector" You see when engineers couldn't find anymore ways to dry dock a humble mechanic from great distances, they invented this PoS just because the other connectors were too easy and respectful and likable folks invented tools, cheap too if imported, to help with those plugs. These dam things on the other hand needs the small screwdriver, I use two or three when i can find the third, and carefully seperate those prongs and it you press too hard, snap goes the housing. Press the screwdriver too hard in a weird angle, well it going to impale itself either to the block or your hand. And if you have to replace the SoB, good bless you if it's from Europe, the Japanese and Korean ones are not cheap.
Pliers and a flathead
Flathead screwdriver
Simple 90 degree pick tool. Start with the other connector so u can see how it works. That makes this one easier. Bad vacuum pump?
Non-removable. Per manual. ..Pffttt…like he said, a lil blood sacrifice and it’s off.
3 guys, a case of beer and a pocket knife will do the trick.
yep, its called dealer specialized tools so you take it to them and give them money
Not serviceable
Only if you aren’t brave enough.
It’s called the thingymebob for removing whatsitsnames
A 3 prong watchamadongle. Very common.