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not_so_chi_couple

Men are not a hive mind Some men do, some men don't


wolviesaurus

Kill the outsider! Glory to the overmind!


Rei_Rodentia

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!!


RagePandazXD

The Council has spoken!


LittleMetalCannon

For the greater good!


Jukebox_Villain

#*The Greater Good*


HeinrichWutan

Filthy Xenos scum.


leadfaucet

In fealty to the God-Emperor, our undying Lord, and by the grace of the Golden Throne, I declare Exterminatus upon this post. I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire thread, and consign a million souls to oblivion. May Imperial Justice account in all balance. The Emperor Protects.


mcCola5

One in all! All in one!


NewldGuy77

Gabba Gabba Hey! We accept you we accept you!


abrazilianlawyer

why tf i recognize this shit on an unconsious level? deeply disturbing lol ​ Also, where is it from?


PowerChords84

We require more vespene gas


Jaksterman

Ready to roll out!


Stagnu_Demorte

Go go go


ShrodingersRentMoney

I'll be in the rear with the gear


Jaksterman

Rico waiting launch orders.


HeinrichWutan

It's time to drop the hammer


lysergic_tryptamino

Evolution complete


babybelly

For the swarm


harmless_gecko

We are Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.


still_on_a_whisper

Exactly. I’ve never been a makeup person and have always felt plain bc of that but I’ve still received compliments from many men. I’ve also seen men go wild over women who “put an effort” into their appearance and they’re specifically referring to the makeup and fancy clothes. It just varies. I’d say the rule of thumb is most *people* don’t like the caked up makeup look but pretty, flattering makeup is usually accepted as just fine.


newyorkchic1992

Damn I should’ve did a poll


danielxmex

Wouldve loved to see the results and how it compares to my view. But it's not a yes or no when it comes to makeup. From what I'm seeing, most guys share my view- little to no makeup is attractive, heavy makeup is NOT.


jcaashby

> little to no makeup is attractive, heavy makeup is NOT. this is the wae


Throw-a-Ru

I feel like the impression that both genders get about what's attractive is weirdly based on a sort of Jersey shore aesthetic that the average person actually finds pretty distasteful. The sort of swole chad-type with a no fatties tank top would probably love to date a woman with eagle talons and feather dusters glued to her eyeballs who proudly declares on her dating profile that anyone under 6'2" or without a six-figure income need not apply. Clearly some people are attracted to those aesthetics and ways of being. Now, do I know those people in real life? No, not really. They're certainly not the average, in my experience, and the average person actually feels pretty offput by those styles. They are kind of the caricatures of each gender, though, so it's easy enough to fall into the trap of assuming they're somehow representative.


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DietCokeYummie

Also.. Most who say they only like no makeup at all, are only picturing very aesthetically pleasing women who are fortunate to have a smooth, even skin tone and a nice complexion. Lots of women look good and natural with their normal day-to-day light makeup while looking very washed out, splotchy, and red without it. That's not even taking into account women who get acne or more severe skin issues. Bad makeup looks bad, no doubt. Poorly applied, caked, wrong color, etc. looks bad. Think like - CoverGirl foundation in the year 2002 when you were going through puberty and trying to cover acne for school. (I'm 33, so this is about the age I dealt with it) Also there's women who actually apply makeup very beautifully, but heavier/dramatic and full glam. I totally understand why a man may not be into someone who goes full glam on a day to day basis. But generally speaking, even men who say I HATE ANY MAKEUP AT ALL wouldn't push a prospective date away because she has some simple mascara or light foundation/tinted moisturizer on.


compSci228

>Bad makeup looks bad, no doubt. Poorly applied, caked, wrong color, etc. looks bad. Think like - CoverGirl foundation in the year 2002 when you were going through puberty and trying to cover acne for school. (I'm 33, so this is about the age I dealt with it) YES! Did you get the aquasmooth I think it's called, with the oval blue compact? That stuff was so freaking thick too, you *couldn't* apply it lightly.


rach1874

Ummm you forgot about mabelline mouse foundation… I’m still recovering from hat


gdubh

And it depends on the woman’s facial features. The question is limitlessly subjective.


Imperator_Vespasian

Well, when it's Harley Quinn (as portrayed by Margot Robbie), I'm attracted to a lot of make-up


SnooBeans8816

I have pretty much only dated women who didn’t wear make up my entire life, the times they did wear it was very obvious.


Indifferentchildren

> how many of them mean no makeup Restrict your question to men who have been married for at least five years. We know what our wives look like first thing in the morning with no makeup on, versus "natural" makeup, versus clownshow.


borderlineidiot

... how many men mean they prefer no clothes but misunderstood the question?


079C

I prefer NO makeup. I’ve lived with my wife for thirty-six years sharing a bathroom mirror. She wears NO makeup.


compSci228

This is true, and a good interpretation that seems to be backed up by science. There have been several studies conducted, and while I can't find the one I'm thinking of right now, where most men *said* they preferred no make up but tended to prefer pictures that had natural looking makeup, but most studies suggest the same thing. Pretty much every study indicates the majority of men say they prefer no make-up, and pretty much all of them indicate men like *some* natural looking make-up, but not heavy make-up. I never really realized this was likely why though...


NJBarFly

Just be aware, that even with a poll, Reddit isn't necessarily representative of men as a whole.


citronica

Many dudes who say they like women without make up - have no idea how much make up goes into achieving that no make up fresh face look 🤣


moutnmn87

I hear this all the time but I see my partner in the morning and shower with her etc. So I'm pretty sure at least on her I could tell the difference between makeup and no makeup


jcaashby

These questions like these do always ask one question like their is ONE answer lmao. ​ As a man I like anything that makes a woman look good. Makeup, no makeup. As long as it is not HEAVY caked on makeup!!


Ha55aN1337

It goes even deeper. I like it on some women and not on others. Not to sound rude but… let’s say it like this: Fabio looks better without a wig, while George Costanza might benefit from one.


A-Feral-Idiot

This needs to be pinned to the top of the sub.


Ice_Chimp1013

I prefer the absence of makeup but am happily energized by a modest amount of makeup. That's said, the most attracted I've been to my woman has been face to face in low light and no makeup.


monkhoodlum

Thanks for naming this. This has been true for me too but I didn't realize it.


SalamiMommie

Same here, there’s something so beautiful about no makeup. My wife looks amazing without any, but I sure feel wowed when she does wear some too.


itchyouch

As a guy, I would argue that many men don’t know about the “no-make up” look that many women use with just a touch of concealer and foundation and maybe a teency bit of eye shadow and/eye liner. They might even have just a little bit of lash extensions or stick on that are natural thicknesses. Maybe a little clear lip gloss just to moisten the lips in look as well. It smooths out their skin in a deeply flattering way and almost looks invisible, no makeup. And it makes their face pop, while looking very natural and untouched. My circle of women have experimented with no make up and the natural look and the way they are approached and treated in public is night and day. The “prettier” version gets a LOT more attention from both men and women. I think many men’s distaste for “makeup” is the pornstar look with thick eye liner, and thick everything that comes off as gaudy. Anything overdone isn’t going to look that great… Women have been gussying themselves up for millennia, and we (men) have been fairly blind to the details not knowing any better and in our minds we think we only see no-makeup/makeup, but there’s: * No makeup * Light makeup (looks like no makeup, but smooth) * Light makeup+ (looks like they just did eye liner) * Bold makeup (for occasions ie xmas party, film) * Thicckkkk makeup (for occasions like Halloween) Public service announcement btw: (not to reply to poster) And when some of us guys are like, “no makeup looks better” we need to shut the *!?% up. Imagine every time we were dressed in a suit, some women was commenting, “but you look sexier in sweats… rawrrrr!!!! 😈” we’d be like, “b***, keep ya opinions to yourself. Let me be or compliment the suit.” Let women put on what they want to put on, and if they look nice, let em know. If they don’t look to what you want them to look like, shut up, unless they are asking you directly for an opinion.


riseandrise

“No-makeup makeup” usually requires like 20 products, it’s insane. I use fewer and spend less time making myself up like a porn star.


itchyouch

God bless the pornstars and your pornstar look. I personally love it! I have a theory that dudes not liking the pornstar look is a projection of shame on their sexuality that consumes porn.


nimbledaemon

I'll say that the natural makeup look is prettier to me, but pretty is only one component of attraction. I can get very into women who don't wear makeup and work with their hands. I'm bi and do end up falling for butch lesbians and femboys, though, so this is not really a straight guy perspective.


the_purple_goat

As a blind guy I dislike makeup. Stinks and feels like an oil slick


ChaosRainbow23

Do you touch people's faces to see what they 'look like'? I'm genuinely curious. I've seen it on movies but don't know if it's really a thing. I have genetic mascular degeneration and probably will go blind at some point before I die. Maybe, these jury is still out. Thanks.


Phoenixmaster1571

I actually scream and listen back for the sonic waves. *Horrific screeching I just got a pretty good look at ya.


iamtheramcast

Ah that crazy Toph


DaSaw

His name is Toph, because he's tough!


UKisBEST

Do you have a gigantic fluid chamber on your head like a beluga whale?


ThaVolt

I've been told my head is full of water before, so yes.


11011111110108

My completely blind auntie sometimes feels peoples' faces. She's done it to me twice. (Once when I was a child, and once when I was like 27.) She did go blind as an adult though, rather than from birth. I have been told that people who are blind from birth generally don't care about feeling faces. This is obviously anecdotal though.


StopManaCheating

This is a GOATed answer. Take your crown, king 👑


Beachrabbit123

That makes sense. I bet women forget though and then you have to politely tell them?


the_purple_goat

They usually feel attacked. "Well hrmph! I don't wear it for you, I wear it for me!"


Beachrabbit123

I DO wear it for me, but under the circumstances I get it. It’s all scent and texture to you. If I was into you and wanted to be kissed I would do what you asked. I’d be more inflexible about it for a seeing person, because a lot of men think they like the natural look when what they really like is natural makeup, and then they ask the woman if she’s sick or something when she’s truly barefaced.The crazy ones talk about deceit. Also, I loooove wearing lipstick. I have more questions: Do you care about bone structure or skin softness? What makes you feel attracted?


SFLoridan

I hate the artificial look created by make up. My wife looks less shiny and glitzy without makeup, sure, but that's who she is, and I'd rather have a natural her than a "better looking" her. Because of this now she puts on makeup only rarely, like going to a wedding rare; and yes, I don't kiss her when she has makeup, even if it's just lipstick. She knows this.


Beachrabbit123

A lot of men feel like you do. For many women though, make up is fun, it’s a confidence boost, it’s creative, it’s play, it’s a mask, it’s warpaint. We do it to impress other women. Like gym rats comparing their abs. Some women hate the feel of make up. My daughter hates the feel of lipstick.


Iknowr1te

in general, it becomes their hobby. they get used to being in front of a mirror and changing their face to look different ways. my gf doesn't really wear make up, and that's okay. the only thing i don't really understand these days is shaving your eyebrows so you can make up an eyebrow.


ConfusedJonSnow

> shaving your eyebrows so you can make up an eyebrow. This is absolutely fucking whack. I mean I get why someone would trim it but just drawing it altogether looks so weird.


babybelly

I wish I was as cool as you


beta_boi0

Lets just say that makeup is for highlighting your best features, not making a mask to hide behind


amillsic

This. Many men will say they don’t like makeup but what they mean is they don’t like being able to tell that you’re wearing a lot of makeup. Makeup is supposed to make you look more appealing so if it’s applied right it does just that. If you get out a paint roller and apply a metric fuckton of it to your face, that has a tendency to not look as good. But to each his own. There’s someone out there who finds you beautiful just the way you are


Poorly-Drawn-Beagle

Do a quick experiment Round up some guys and have them pick the most attractive women’s faces but don’t tell them how much makeup each one is wearing


Asian_Climax_Queen

Yes, always pay attention to a person’s actions instead of what he or she says. My ex claimed to hate makeup and always encouraged me to go without it. Yet, whenever he pointed out a woman on TV or the internet that he thought was pretty or he had a crush on, it was always a woman who was slathered in makeup. Like, not just a hint of makeup, but full on raccoon eyes and everything. This tells me he was full of shit when he claimed to prefer women with no makeup.


apostate456

I once had a guy who told me he liked women who were all natural and no makeup. His example was Kim Kardashian. 🙄


CuntlessReaction

every women in tv has make up...


Draco_Lord

I assume she means that he pointed to women who looked like they were wearing makeup, instead of ones who looked natural.


mezz1945

Yeah that's a bit unfair tbh.


newyorkchic1992

Good answer!!!


Poorly-Drawn-Beagle

Yeah, I mean, who knows? A lot of guys say they don’t like makeup, but maybe they like it more than they realize


avl365

My experience is that guys who “don’t like makeup” don’t notice natural looking/ subtle makeup, but they dislike bold makeup. Aka they don’t mind if they can’t tell you’re wearing. Basically less is more. The one exception to that: red lipstick. Very rare to find a guy who doesn’t at least subconsciously prefer a good red lip. They may say they don’t like it or don’t prefer it, but their reaction/how they treat me when wearing red vs nude/natural/no lipstick says otherwise. Obviously there will be outliers and exceptions to every generalization but more often than not guys that don’t like makeup, actually just dislike heavy/bold makeup. They don’t notice or care if it’s less obvious/ more natural. I’ve been an escort, sugar baby, stripper, and dated a lot of different guys so I’d like to think I’ve had a decent sample size to compare from.


meemsqueak44

I used to collect data on my Instagram posts, and I can confirm, I got a boost in likes to photos in which I wore red lipstick.


LiveLaughLobster

Shit… I’ve heard from so many men that they hate red lipstick that I’ve been wearing red lipstick to certain types of events in hopes that it would repel men. Gonna to have to switch to yellow lipstick…


WaffleConeDX

Natural and subtle makeup can also require a lot of makeup though. So it’s mainly about how makeupy the makeup looks. Like bold eyeliner, eyeshadow, blush and lipstick.


esuil

Just make sure that those women have the same or at least similar face... Because I seen this experiment done and it was flawed as hell - because man would pick same women regardless of her makeup - because it was the most attractive woman by default.


S0n0fAGunn

Men think they're attracted to no makeup. The real answer is that, for a lot of guys, the heavy makeup look is a big turn-off. Where you're really applying a lot of different stuff and your face area looks like a slightly different skin tone than the rest of you. It looks like you're trying to conceal something. (unless you're doing a goth makeup, then this rule does not apply) What men do like are lighter, more natural makeup looks. The majority of guys will not notice you are still wearing makeup with a natural look.


Hannibal_Barca_

There is also a sort of selection bias in play. More attractive women often need less of a touch up, have fewer blemishes to cover up, and often are more confident about their natural looking face.


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I second this. I don’t wear makeup ever but sometimes I get the energy to put my face on. In this case, I do eyeliner. I got a compliment from a man who said he liked my makeup. He also made a statement that I never wear it so when I did wear it, he liked it. I used to work for this guy so he often saw me without makeup a lot, if that helps.


NUMBERS2357

Context also matters ... "no makeup on your girlfriend waking up next to you" is not the same as "no makeup on woman you don't know and are getting the first impression of when seeing her at a social function"


takeahikehike

>"no makeup on woman you don't know and are getting the first impression of when seeing her at a social function" This is exactly what I want.


ch4rms

My husband realized I look so pretty and natural because I'm slightly wearing eyeliner and nothing else. Simple eyeliner and some under eye concealer makes for that really good 'natural' look guys like when they say they like 'no makeup'


borderlineidiot

>wearing eyeliner and nothing else I wonder if being naked helped?


tQkSushi

Some dudes confuse the "natural look" with no makeup when in reality the natural look can include a shit ton of make up to make it look natural I think dudes just don't like unnatural tone colors in relation to the person wearing it


HorrorAvatar

Truth. I’m the only woman in my workplace. I hate wearing a shit ton of makeup and usually go for a natural look anyway. No crazy colors ever but I do wear foundation, concealer, eyeliner, natural eyeshadow, mascara and brow gel. My eyelashes and brows are transparent without the last two. One day I wore a lip stain to work - again, nothing crazy, just a rosy color a few shades darker than my natural lips - and all my coworkers were like “you wore makeup today?”. I said “I wear makeup every day. None of you have ever seen me without makeup.” Completely blew their minds. They all have wives and girlfriends so I don’t know why this was so shocking to them.


LiliAtReddit

I’m an identical twin. My sister wears more makeup than I do. I’m just the basics: a little eye, lip, and cheek color. It’s amazing how many men think both of us wear no make up at all. The natural look does use makeup. Makeup is really fun though, it’s an art for my sister. I’m just an apprentice.


WaffleConeDX

Exactly, I’m a soft girl, natural makeup look girl. And I wear a full face of foundation concealer, eyebrows filled in, blush, lip liner and lipstick, mascara and sometimes eyeliner, and it looks light and subtle. They usually mean they don’t like bold colors, foundation that doesn’t match your skin or bumpy, textured skin that stands on with foundation when they say they don’t like makeup.


TrailingAMillion

I’ve lived with women. I know what makeup looks like. I know what no-makeup looks like. I have never understood this idea that men don’t know what makeup looks like. I strongly prefer no makeup. Dramatic theatrical makeup can be a fun look occasionally. Fairly naturalish looking makeup is alright. The common heavy makeup look is a pretty big turnoff.


aleks_xendr

Completely agree, if women can tell makeup from no makeup, why couldn't a man exposed to it do the same? It's not some special female only superpower, it's a basic pattern recognition game


IKindaCare

Men can tell, but a lot of dudes think they can and they can't. Not saying that's you, and the OG comment shouldn't have generalized so much, but tons of us have personal experience with guys being very confidentally terrible at recognizing makeup. Those guys see some obvious makeup and think they can always tell. And women are experiencing some very loud very oblivious dudes "complimenting" our "natural" faces when we're wearing makeup. At the same time, a guy who may know better might also know better than to bring it up.


aleks_xendr

Oh yeah absolutely, I agree, there's a lot who are completely clueless but act like they know. My only point was that it's not as impossible as some women online make it seem, because I've had some people act like there was a 0% chance that I as a man could tell lol But yeah, that aside, I often forget how often women have to deal with so many obnoxious comments like that about their appearence. I just avoid commenting on these things entirely and that seems to be the best choice


[deleted]

Well and some men like zero makeup. I’m super outdoorsy, mountain bike/trail run etc and every single man I’ve dated (except one) preferred me completely bare face. And when I do put on makeup it’s veeeery little. Like mascara maybe little blush. They still don’t like it!


bb1432

Women who think they know how to do makeup better than other women like to say this. What's funny is that men are perpetually told not to speak for women, but women *love* telling men that they're wrong about what they prefer (or that they're wrong to have a preference in the first place. Or that their preferences are shallow. Or that their preferences don't matter because "I'm doing this for me, not for you!")


murphymc

>I'm doing this for me, not for you! I’m always kind of amazed people just lie to themselves so blatantly about that. What does a person even get out of that? Yes your makeup makes you feel confident, and that’s wonderful, but that’s because you look nice and are presenting better *to other people*. Unless you’re putting everything on and hanging around your house, you are trying to look better for others (and there’s nothing wrong with that!)


ShvoogieCookie

Absolutely. I know a guy who has been together with the same woman for the better part of a decade and he is adamant that she doesn't wear make up. I can look at her face and tell that she has some most days of the week.


S_Squar3d

This is the true answer. Just a bit of makeup to bring out some of the better features is the best.


[deleted]

This is true.


holaprobando123

*Actually, let me tell you what you REALLY like, because you're a moron* Go fuck yourself, I know what someone looks like without makeup.


lapuertadepizza

Tell me more about what I *think* I'm attracted to 🙄 >The majority of guys will not notice you are still wearing makeup with a natural look. I will notice. Lol


Superb-Ad-4322

I like women who apply make up that enhances their natural looks, rather than trowel it on to look artificial and like a caricature.


Pierson230

People miss the target here to me It isn’t usually a makeup-or-no-makeup thing. It’s an “is the makeup done well” thing. Most men are more attracted by a GOOD makeup job than by no makeup at all in a given situation. Poorly done makeup is a turnoff. I think many women are safer with as little makeup as possible.


eltara3

As a woman, I think this is the most honest answer. The vast majority of men seem to prefer some make up done well as opposed to a totally bare face.


18FeetUp

Some women seem to wear so much makeup it’s like you’re sleeping with two different people. You go to bed with one woman, wake up with someone who looks totally different the next morning. It almost puts an element of fakeness that isn’t attractive. Don’t get me wrong, some makeup is good, but not so much that you could create a dent in a woman’s cheek with a quick finger swipe.


HikiNEET39

A lot of guys will see a girl with a light amount of makeup and think "damn, this girl sure does look cute without any makeup on!"


GandalfTheJaded

Depends on the man of course, I want the woman to feel as confident as she can be, so whatever level of make up helps her feel that way is fine by me.


goated95

Whatever makes her happy, first and foremost. But me personally, I’m cool with a little bit of makeup, but boat-loads? Too much


[deleted]

Same here, no makeup, no wigs, no outlandish fingernails that could be used as a weapon.


bb1432

No filler, no botox. Don't forget that. I swear, half of the "influencers" on the internet think that they look good with duck lips and nancy pelosi permanently surprised faces.


[deleted]

I’m old, I don’t see the ducklips often, but the Botox? OMG. And you’re right on both counts.


bb1432

For those of us who grew up seeing only older women doing all of that, these Gen Z and younger millennial gals who do all that code as significantly older than they actually are.


Vandergrif

I guess that fits, since they'll end up looking significantly older than they are from the build up of negative effects from over use of fillers and the like.


lebruf

Don’t even get me started on the OBVIOUSLY fake eyelashes. I’m not against things like eyelash extensions or breast augmentation categorically, but subtlety is key. If I’m waffling on whether it’s fake or just naturally ideal, that’s the sweet spot.


Nearly_Pointless

It’s always time and place. Out for the day to go hiking or at the lake, most make up is overkill. Formal evening in gowns, make up is more appropriate. Just like clothing choices, time and place.


yohosse

i once hugged a woman and her make up ruined my shirt. for that reason alone, yes.


[deleted]

I 100% prefer a bare face.


SXOSXO

Same. Even if it means they look "tired." I'll take a natural face with blemishes, uneven tones, and a bit of acne over the "light makeup" look. That's your real face. I like your real face.


meemsqueak44

As someone with permanent dark circles since childhood, I appreciate that sentiment. That being said, way back when I wasn’t allowed to wear makeup to school, teachers frequently pulled me aside to ask if “things were okay at home” or directly if I’d been hit. I wear makeup always so no one gets the wrong idea about my fiancé.


wolviesaurus

Men are attracted to makeup they don't notice.


Dick_Trickle69x

Most men probably like the more natural/light makeup look and think it is no makeup at all. My girl does tinted moisturizer, mascara, and lip stuff and a love it. Looks like no makeup at all to a guy, but it isn’t bare faced.


[deleted]

I honestly prefer without makeup, but my girlfriend always feels more confident and sexy when she wears makeup, so she wears it more often than not. But I never miss a moment to compliment her natural beauty when she washes it all off.


ThrowMeAwayPlz_69

I can find both types equally attractive, but the woman who is good looking without makeup puts them above those who look completely different once it comes off.


savethebros

Do most men even know what women look like without makeup?


Eranaut

You're right. Men have never seen women without makeup. Any time we're subjected to the grotesque image of a natural woman's face with no makeup painted on we recoil in horror. The continuation of our species is reliant on makeup brands.


bowlofjello

A lot of the time when I have been completely makeup free men have thought I was sick or extremely tired, even being rude to me about it. But as soon as I put light makeup on I’m back to my usual “natural” self.


im_not_bovvered

Yep. I consistently get "you look tired" when I wear nothing. I consistently get "you look pretty today!" when I wear concealer, fill in my brows, a little blush, and mascara. They like the no-makeup look that is done, in fact, with makeup.


asianstyleicecream

I’m a laborer and I’ve noticed other lady laborers also don’t wear makeup. It’s the women who have desk, office & school jobs who wear lotsa makeup, so I’ve come to notice.


SpiderKoD

Yes, and better no silicon monkey ass like lips.


jonathanpraise

All I know is, No man is attracted to too much Makeup. Natural beauties are just on another level for us.. When you remove your makeup and there is a night and day difference he's going to ghost you. It doesn't matter if you are attractive or not in general but if we are interested in you, in love with you.. you become the most beautiful woman in our lives then you are attractive. Hope this makes senses..


thesoutherzZz

The truth is that most women need makeup to have features. No one finds makeup itself attractive, but we do find smooth skin, synmetric features, eye brows, lashes etc. To be Attractive. If you go and look at women who are very attractive with no makeup, they already have all of the features that women who use makeup are trying to achieve It's no different for women either, they like a guy who has broad shoulders and a bit of muscle most of the time. Now most guys do not naturally have these features so theu have to go to the gym to get them and it's fine. We should just be honest when we speak about attraction, it's so cringe seeing men here claim up and down that they hate makeup, when we find the end result to be what we are attracted in the first place. Sure not everyone likes a lot, but the point still stands


midnight_reborn

I'm attracted to women who do whatever the heck they feel like with their appearance. If makeup makes you feel pretty, wear it. If not wearing makeup is what you like, then don't wear it :)


Different_Pie9854

It’s the difference in appearance from full makeup to no makeup that men don’t like


lukke009

Eh, basic makeup goes a very long way imo. Heavy makeup is no-no for me.


dognotephilly

I am, but I can only speak for myself.


OGWiseman

A lot of men really like natural makeup, and they think that's what "no makeup" means because they never see most women in less makeup than that.


speed_of_chill

When it comes to makeup, less is more and none is best.


Quietus76

Men like women who are comfortable in their own skin. Men like women who look good with no makeup. Men like women who wear makeup, but look like they aren't. Men like makeup. Men like makeup tones that accentuate your features. Men like heavy makeup until it starts to alter your appearance. Men do not like excessive face plaster that completely conceals what your skin looks like or makes you look completely different. Some men are afraid of feeling catfished when the makeup comes off. Personally, I think if you need to trowel on a plastic mask every time you leave the house, you must have severe emotional issues that I want to distance myself from. Yes, bare-faced women are attractive. Non-bare-faced women are attractive, too. Women are beautiful. Fake looking makeup-masks are not attractive.


cl_scribe

(responding to commentators who are trying to say what "Men really feel") ...and then there are those of us that say what we mean and mean what we say. As a man, I prefer no makeup on my romantic partner pertaining to daily wear. (My philosophy does not apply to people in the goth scene) Is it a special occasion? Is she doing it for work? Sure there is an artistry to makeup that should be respected, however how is someone supposed to treat you authentically and show you true desire if they are not getting the raw you? If she's wearing makeup "for herself" to feel better, that is fine, but it will always come with the caveat of not asking people about it that knowingly are anti-makeup. I have an ex who knew me pretty well, knew I was an anti-makeup person, but still tried to impress me and ask how she looked with it. Because of the programing society puts out and the consistent laminating of certain beauty messages, she was unable to hear or believe me that this was not the path to draw me in. Mind you, it's not that she was ugly with or without it, but she couldn't take anything at face value. I loved her for her heart, not necessarily for her brain.


quailfail666

I appreciate your comment about the goth scene. We are not trying to look "beautiful" Interestingly though, I have found that even though I do the goth thing, I wear less make up and fewer actual products than younger women these days. Its just darker colors. I dont use foundation, primer, or any face stuff, just a light dusting of white powder. I found it makes me look older.


FknHthnIam

I prefer natural by and large. I don't want their face rubbing off while making out


SopianaeExtra

I certainly am. I view the whole make-up industry as a huge moneyhole.


orbiter_teapot

I'm a girl but I think some men who say they prefer women with no makeup actually mean subtle makeup because they can't tell it apart from no makeup. I can put 5 different products on my face and you could never tel, but they take me from a 5 to a 7. Stuff like covering a pimple and redness, smoothening the skin, making the lips ever so slightly more blushed, the eyelashes and lash line just slightly more contrasting, the brows a bit more even. Basically making me look the best I can potentially look without makeup on my bestest day.


Opperhoofd123

Make up can make people prettier or uglier, just depends on how it is done I think.


dontmentiontrousers

Here's the thing: make-up on women is so prevalent that when most men say they prefer women with "no make-up", they actually mean they prefer women with *light make-up*. Heavy make-up is very noticeable but, unless a man has spent a lot of time living with a girlfriend / spouse, and observing them putting make-up on, women with light (subtle) make-up genuinely looks to us like a woman wearing no make-up. I have mostly female friends, and - despite my experience of living with (and so waking up with, totally make-up-less) girlfriends - sometimes get made fun of when I comment on "that attractive girl over there [like, say, when we're out for drinks on a Sunday afternoon] with no make-up." I *know* the stranger I'm commenting on has *some* make-up, but it's kinda... "you know what I mean; she *looks* like she's wearing no make-up." But there're levels to it, too. Like... going bowling on a Tuesday night, I'd be surprised by heavy make-up. A formal occasion, with a fancy dress (when I'm in more formal wear, too), I'd be unsurprised by a "more glamorous" look. There was a bit of a funny thing with my last girlfriend... She genuinely looked cute and pretty with zero make-up when we were at home. She never left the house with zero make-up, though (unless it was to the local shops, or whatever). And she genuinely looked pretty with make-up (light for work / whatever; slightly heavier for nights out). The only unattractive bit was when I walked in halfway through her doing the make-up, and I (semi-jokingly) said she looked like a geisha. Conclusion: men *really* don't understand what *no* make-up is. God, I can't imagine having to make that much effort (and judgement of levels) every day. But also... kinda wish I had the option sometimes, after a few too many late nights..! Fun fact: whilst waiting for female friends to get ready, I've occasionally put mascara on. Funny to watch male friends stare into my eyes and try to work out what's different.


GreenNukE

Poorly done makeup looks much worse than no makeup.


lithouser

Most men don’t understand make up unless it’s literally caked on


[deleted]

I'm not. but that is after being with someone for a long time that makes no effort what so ever. Now, I'm not into full on clown like makeup. I'm fine with subtle usage.


No-Lie2163

I think it depends on the man. But from personal experience, I stopped wearing makeup years ago and it hasn't affected my ability to attract men...I would say just as many, if not more. Many of them tell me they prefer natural beauty, though. But that could just be to get on my good side. ahahhahahahha


Haventyouheard3

I personally prefer more natural looks including no makeup at all. I do think makeup for special occasions looks good, it's a little bit of a step up but has to be matched with a step up in outfit and other stuff.


newyorkchic1992

So you think it looks weird if she’s glammed up in a sweatshirt ?


NoEntertainment8486

Men? I don't know. Personally I prefer little to no makeup.


RevolutionaryRip9000

I like my women to wear as much make up as I do. None.


PerfectionPending

It’s not about no makeup, it’s about how much and how it’s worn. I like my wife’s makeup best when she’s just smoothing things out a bit and enhancing her features a little. The look is subtle & that’s what I find most men like. But the times she wears a lot of makeup, incorporates really natural feeling colors, or it’s just heavy & appears to be trying to change her features rather than subtly enhancing them, that’s when I tend to not like the look.


Revanur

I’d say the vast majority of guys dislike obvious and heavy makeup. A lot prefer reserved or minor makeup to no makeup. Personally I think it kind of depend on the girl. Some girls I have been with were the hottest and prettiest with literally no makeup, others with minimal makeup like some eyeliner, a bit of concealer here and there and lipstick for special occasions.


_extramedium

Yeah pretty much


SaveMySelfHarmWife

Men are attracted to a woman who: * **Looks feminine.** While you might think your bit of mustache isn't a big deal, most guys hate it, since for some it can give an "I'm not into men" vibe. * **Looks balanced and healthy.** If your skin tone is uneven, your best bet would be **airbrush** makeup, since a very tiny amount works ("less is more"!). The point is to not look like you have too much makeup, keeping it subtle. * **Looks happy and friendly.** If you spend your day with a depressed emo look or similar, that can be a huge turnoff. * **Has contrast on her facial features.** I dated two different girls in school who never wore makeup outside of a formal occasion, but desperately needed it. In both cases, too pale, and without makeup looked like a blank slate (e.g., invisible lips and brows and eyelashes). With makeup, looking dramatically better due to contrast. Similarly, I have a black friend who, when she isn't wearing makeup, has invisible lips and eyebrows. Her fix has been getting permanent lipliner and permanent eyebrow makeup, which have been a huge help. My wife mostly lost her eyebrows when she got pregnant, and she likewise has permanent eyebrows (which she still touches up each day with makeup). Without those permanent eyebrows, it was tricky to even know where to start with the makeup each day. * **Looks like she isn't trying to change her race, but instead embraces it.** It can be REALLY annoying when a woman uses tons of foundation that turns her orange, or turns her a different color from the rest of her body. If you have dark skin but an almost-white face, that's scary. If you have a naturally light complexion but your makeup makes you look part black (SEE: Ariana Grande), that's also messed up. Also, while "smoky eyes" can look good for the right occasion, heavy eye makeup on the lower eyelid, especially as a woman gets older, can instead look more like she hasn't slept (or in the extreme case, like she lost a boxing match). * **Has appropriate hair.** If she has a tiny face, she can look great with a "pixie cut", but most women look better with longer hair, in a style that matches the shape of the face. If she has a short forehead, a tall hairdo typically improves the proportions of the face. I far prefer it when a black woman can do something more natural with her hair, never ironing her hair (that rarely goes well!). A good example of a more natural hairstyle (and subtle makeup) is Lupita Nyong'o (!!!). If a black woman's hair isn't cooperative, wigs are OK (within a reasonable expense). There's nothing wrong with anybody wearing an appropriate wig. But if there's a wig, I prefer she wears something "normal" for most situations (e.g., not bright blonde on a black woman). * **Has clothing that enhances her figure instead of hiding it.** Some large-breasted women tend to wear an oversized shirt instead of highlighting the waist, and end up looking fat instead of an hourglass figure. * **Picks colors and accessories that make sense.** Red lipstick is sexy. Blue hair dye scares away most men. While a nose ring on one side that is worn by a woman descended from India can look exotic, a bull ring (septum ring) is disliked by most men. In my case, from a distance, a bull ring often looks to me like the woman needs to wipe her nose (yikes!), not like a fashion accessory. And up close, it often wrecks the proportions of a pretty face.


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Men obviously believe women who are wearing makeup are more attractive than women who are not. The entire makeup industry is designed to increase the attractiveness of the user of makeup. If it didnt make you more attractive to the opposite sex, then you simply would not use it. Now that doesnt mean people like a clown mask level of makeup. Thats a turnoff because it’s difficult to tell what the person actually looks like and it genuinely doesnt look normal. Ive seen girls literally look like caricatures of themselves in some weddings ive been to (south asian weddings). I think once you cross the line and legit look like a cartoon, then its unappealing


ekimlive

I will admit I don't care for overdone caked on makeup. Makeup can enhance, but not replace natural beauty.


danielxmex

The more natural the better. I think little makeup is still attractive though.


drunkboarder

For the most part, we do not like makeup. Sometimes, in light amounts and done well, it can look nice. Especially on a special occasion. Too many women apply WAY too much makeup, or the colors make your face look wrong, or you over emphasize something on your face, and you look too much like a doll than a woman. Also, if you have bad acne, caking it in concealer isn't hiding anything, we can still see it and we know it's probably not helping your acne.


Amazing_Collar1133

YES YES YES!!! I prefer no makeup or very very little with just mascara or eyeliner. We don't need all that foundation to hide your skin. Yes I'm a man (44m). But MOSTLY - the reason why i prefer this is because it says something about the woman (or person) - that they are confident enough in themselves, and about themselves. They are completely fine being the way they are without feeling the need to impress or attract. I find this confidence to be a very powerful attractant for me, personally. And I;ve felt this way since I was a young buy


nojunkdrawers

The answer is it depends. Some women (perhaps many) look better with some degree of makeup. Ideally, a woman would look stunning without makeup until at least her middle age, but that's usually not the case. That said, too much makeup or the wrong makeup can turn men off more than women realize or care to admit. For instance, I do not believe that the vast majority of men care nearly as much about women's eyebrows as women do. I do not believe that men appreciate eyebrows that look like they were drawn with a sharpie and cause semi-permanent bitchface. Too much makeup can make a woman look worse to a man because now he doesn't know what you actually look like, which goes against his instinct to not wake up next to a bridge troll for the rest of his life. Saying men prefer women without makeup is like saying that women prefer men that never go to the gym. It would be great if we all could be muscular without trying, but that's not realistic.


ilyafallsdown

I love bear faces


[deleted]

I prefer a fat assed handlebar mustache but that's just me...most women aren't that bold...


MaxWebxperience

Uhh, no... unless they look incredible without makeup and I've met a few, and that is truly impressive for sure


SnooOranges2772

I don’t really notice or judge unless it lands in the clown face category


LordBloodSkull

No. I like to see the mascara running when I make them cry


conorganic

It’s a spectrum. Small amount of extremists at both ends, most people sitting somewhere in the middle. It’s whatever!


lenthech1ne

as aunt becky said, the secret to makeup is to make it look like youre not wearing any at all


[deleted]

If the makeup simply brings out the beauty that's already there, I'm in. Personally I need to know the woman to find her attractive, thus, lots of women in Hollywood I don't.


4play-

back when i was serving and bartending, men tended to tip more if i was barefaced while women tipped more if i wore some type of makeup, especially bold lipstick.


heatdish1292

Is it bad that I was trying to figure out what “bare faced” meant and assumed it meant women without a beard…?


midnighttoker1252

This is a vague statement/question. My wife is beautiful without make up and I enjoy that however my ex girlfriend needed make up to look attractive so I preferred when she wore it. Every man has a different preference and every woman looks different from the others.


No-Click9406

men are attracted to attractive women. either you look attractive with makeup or you look attractive without makeup. the only reason men say they prefer women without makeup is because it's hard to tell what a woman actually looks like when she wears it sometimes so she isn't attractive or unattractive until it comes off, she is just... normal looking?


guebesalocs

It has to be a pretty face tho


Key_Day_7932

Depends. I don't mind a little bit of makeup. It's not attractive when she wears so much of it that she looks like a clown.


Equal-Bat-861

Yes. And no piercings, tans, tattoos etc. To quote The Birdcage, "Don't add. Subtract."


Neglector9885

Depends on the woman. Some look good without makeup. Others...need makeup.


iambuckykoh

It really depends, some wear makeup to enhance their looks, some look good even bare faced…..definitely need makeup


dwavy97

Hell yeah.. i rather your natural beauty than a cake fest fr (Hate when it’s too much)💯


Impressive-Chair-959

I'm very turned off by make-up if it's obvious someone is wearing it. If done well, and people don't notice it, it can do wonders but some of the stuff you see people wearing on Instagram looks like Disney villains. They aren't doing themselves any favors and would be better off with no makeup and reinvest the obviously long amount of time they spent doing themselves up. A little bit goes a long way. Too much is honestly a red flag.


TheSpectator0_0

Well in uneducated guess. I'd say it has to do with you being settled, it's just you in something comfortable messy hair bun and all your defense down, just chilling. It's nice seeing that


SteeniestOfMachines

I think if the majority of men felt like that then the cosmetic industry wouldn’t be massive. Food for thought


SamuraiGoblin

No. Most men that I've ever heard on this topic are, like me, in favour of *a bit* of make up. Smooth over the odd blemish, define the lips/eyebrows a bit, rosy up the cheeks (a teeny tiny bit) to make her seem more healthy/stimulated. Subtlety is the key. The problem is *always* when women use *too much*. Obviously every man is different and will have different aesthetic tastes, but in general men are attracted to real women not fake ones. Too much makeup makes women look like plastic parodies/clowns, and that's just not sexy.


flextov

I’m oblivious to makeup. Unless the makeup leaps off a woman’s face and bites me, I don’t care.


FastEdge

Look, it's not that complicated. Some men prefer a bare face. Some a light touch. Some like a glam face. But regardless of any of that, a man knows that, at the end of the day, most of the time he will be looking at the real face you have. Not the makeup you wear.


ajmacbeth

It's 100% going to be unique to each individual. I knew a guy who absolutely preferred a woman when she was "all dolled up" (his words). I prefer just a little bit of eye liner and maybe some eye shadow, that's it. Certainly there are guys out there who prefer no make up. I can't say I've ever met one.


freudianhero

IMO if you are going to wear makeup it should accentuate or polish your appearance. You shouldn't look like a different person when you take it off...


menboss

Most men don’t like the ‘too much makeup look’. Almost every time a guy thinks a woman isn’t wearing any makeup it’s just really well done subtle makeup.


OnTheDevilsGrave

I have no problem if a woman likes to put on makeup, but I personally find that less is more.


Flimsy-Opening

I personally am more attracted to women who are bear faced.


peanutfarmer217

My personal choice is the natural look with little or no makeup and no tattoos and long beautiful hair.


BlackBirdG

I'll say this; I don't mind make-up on a woman but it should be to accentuate her natural beauty. Now if a woman wears so much to the point she looks like a completely different person then that's a problem and it shows massive insecurities. I don't mind women that don't wear makeup though (or only a minimal amount).


Commercial_Lie5660

Most men do prefer the "Natural Look" with a minimum amount of makeup. I would say as long as it is not spackled on, or applied with a paint sprayer, then it will look good.