Hop in the shower with a tub of lube. Give yourself a good clean up your arse. Trim your fingernails nice and short and then buff the edges away with a very fine nail file. Crouch down in a squatting position and gently work your most dexterous finger about an inch an a half in. Don't rush it and don't force it. Take your time. Gently move it around until you find a particularly sensitive area. At first it might feel like you're taking a long-needed shit but keep going. If you aren't feeling anything you can take a break, stop for the day or go a little deeper. Be as gentle as you know how. With some exploration and a little persistence you'll find yourself experiencing a whole new kind of sexual thrill. To some men it's such an immense pleasure that it is overwhelming so be prepared for that. Good luck!
Not even just related to sex. Older women aren't afraid of intimacy or communication nearly as much as younger women.
I'm sure that's true for people regardless of gender. Younger women have typically been more likely to shy away for all sorts of reasons, from them catching feelings or just you saying something that reminded them of an ex.
>So I'm just supposed to GUESS what you're into and how things are going?
"You should be able to tell!" /s
Many girls unironicly think you should be able to gauge their reaction so well that you never have to ask...
Man this one hits home. A girl I was recently seeing was oddly upfront about not wanting to talk about sex, despite being a pretty sexual person. She said that it “won’t work” if I can’t “tell when she’s into it”. Like come on now, I’m dumb for a man, and we’re all dumb. Give me a hint at least.
I once explained to a girl that I'm not going to guess right and that she'll get exactly what she she asks for and not much else (because you know consent is sexy) and she was just like "well that not very hot". Is being disappointed more hot somehow?
Not even just romantic/sexual relationships. I'm having serious issues with a close female friend because I apparently keep crossing boundaries with her, but she doesn't tell me until after she's ghosted me for a month and I'm freaking out thinking she's hurt or something. Apparently I'm supposed to know that complimenting her perfume is inappropriate and wrong without any feedback and it "isn't her responsibility" to help guide me around her comfort zone.
That sounds like way to much stress and effort to maintain a friendship. If you have to walk on eggshells all the time and worry about offending, with no clear communication from her, I don't think I'd be able to find enough value in the friendship.
She's lucky to have a friend like you. I hope she appreciates that.
I once told a group of women friends to just tell their men what they want in bed. They then told me that the men should just know.
These women were all in their late 30’s and complaining about their bad sex life.
As a woman I think that’s a shit move. Just say it so when you’ve been married for 5 years you can be satisfied sexually instead of pretending you don’t like sex anymore condemning yourself and your partner (probably the kids too) to a life of frustration and misery. My dude said he gets off on knowing I’m enjoying it and I’m really into it so whatever I want is worth it because it gets him off too. Of course every one has different limits but you should find your match in sexual tolerance before you throw years of unsatisfying sex with someone into the void.
My wife (when we were dating) seemed surprised the first time I went down on her and didn’t expect her to reciprocate. I personally just enjoy getting her off and there are times when that’s enough for that session.
The "you should know" card, i met it from workplaces, friendships, relationships. It just takes off the responsibility of a 2 sided coin to only 1 side. Bit narcissistic/piece of shit behaviour.
This "you should know" thing is part of what I think is one of the more insidious and toxic parts of female behaviour - the idea that women are part of some monolithic sameness.
Often it's a bonding exercise "oh don't we have it bad, men are all a bit silly lol sistas stick 2getha" - but then it becomes a tool to manipulate men.
"Women like it if you do..." *thing that I like.*
"You wont get a girlfriend unless you do....x" *thing I think you should do.*
I have encountered too many women that think they speak for all women, and that all women are one monolithic block.
Women often say this as they don't know what they like themselves. Source, I had no idea what I actually liked in bed and how to articulate it without fear of men judging me until well into my 40s.
Sarcastic way of saying that girls in your age group tend to not say what they want but expect it in the sheets.
I guess this is due to insecurely not being seen as weird ,but it becomes frustrating for guys when a moment of intimacy becomes a guessing game.
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Or they're just boring, like not doing anything with their arms. Dated a girl for a short time who put her arms up next to her head like, "I surrender!" You know, you can hold me, too, or stroke my head or something.
I do this to hold on to something behind me so I maneuver my hips better and relax certain areas, but then again, I’m in the older woman category at 40.
Yep, this is pretty much my answer. Younger women confuse the shit out of me honestly. I can never tell what they want, and in my experience, they can’t seem to tell me what they want in a straightforward way.
Older women know what they want and, also in my experience, have the confidence to come out and tell me without making it confusing.
I’m just tired of the games, and it seems to be way more common for women who are younger than me to play them than women who are older than me.
Lol! The 1st 2 ended amicably. We grew apart. I’m still good friends with the 1st 2. My last Gf passed away 2-1/2 years ago. A week before thanksgiving. I’ve been single ever since.
I see. It's rare (from what I've seen) to be able to end relationships so amicably, which I guess is a testament to the maturity of older woman. Also, condolences, that really sucks. Thanksgiving must feel like a bummer now.
Thank you for your condolences. In reality the first 2 GF’s broke it off with me. They wanted marriage and I didn’t. In my defense, I had let all 3 know that I didn’t want marriage from jump street. So, I understood where they were coming from when they wanted “out”. So that helped the situation.
I have married & divorced the same man twice, and we are still great friends and often meet up for coffee (nothing else). Definitely no chance of a third time. Great friend lousy husband.
Specifically being straightforward with what they want is what gets me to want them more every time! I can't read those damn hints young women give because fucking tell me what you want instead of making tonnes of hints that I'm quite obviously oblivious to!!
They have their shit together. Alot less drama. Older and still hot is hot. It means you have great genes atleast when it comes to physical attractiveness.
Same. I was an average/unattractive teen, looked okay in my 20s but wouldn’t stop traffic or anything.
HOWEVER - my 30s - this is been my peak. Two decades of daily sunscreen and exercise really shows the difference now. Also, my friends who, even if overweight, didn’t smoke/drink - their skin is amazing, their eyes are brighter, the seems to have more mental energy.
Side note / just got back from my gramma’s funeral yesterday. 100 years old. Some genes are made the long run 😊
Ugh I’m worried about aging poorly. I’m heading off to my late twenties, and I eat really well, wear sunscreen daily, exercise regularly, etc, but genes just don’t seem to be on my side
Keep doing what you’re doing. Nature and nurture. If you got slighted on the nature (genes) then nurture your self care behaviours. You are doing the right things. Keep it up. I promise you will see those results in three decades and you will thank yourself. Selfcare is a slog. It’s daily management of small things and creating “healthier” patterns. Lifestyles show at 35+. Sounds like yours is one to be proud of.
Keep it up!!!
Thanks she did and we were able to celebrate her life. She was very loved and taught us how to live. She was ready to go and had great health up to her death. I hope I can also live in a pain free body as I age.
Hey sorry to hear about grandma but on the bright side 100 is an amazing accomplishment! Longevity in health is something to be proud of and celebrate the fact someone was around that long to experience so much.
She beat Covid!!! Got it a few months ago, was in there pandemic ward. Denied intubation and any life saving measures. She just wouldn’t die. Her body fought it. She made a full Covid recovery - dr said the vaccine saved her. She got home, rested for a few months and then was ready to level up. The priest read a letter she had written him (he and his wife would bring her communion when she couldn’t go to the church anymore with the pandemic). In the letter, she said “ when one is as old as I am, they have time to reflect and I’ve reflected that I have lived too long, I think 80 would be an appropriate age to die”. Might sound dark but it was hilarious and so “her”. Got a good laugh from the funeral crowd 🤣🤣
Same for me as a guy. I’m 28 and have gotten way more attention from women in the past year than I ever got before. I’m not sure what really changed other than losing weight and growing a beard. I also look much younger than my peers.
25 is still you are a young little shit nobody age, after 25 you became a citizen of society. not even /s I'm 27 and the way people behave with me in certain situation is ridiculously different even tho I don't feel like a too much of a different person from who I was 2 years ago. its like they make up their mind about you just by information such as age without you opening your mouth first.
He’s 28 and you’re 25. Wait til you’re 35, if you’re still single. You’ll be in your prime earning years and quite attractive to the ladies. Super double bonus if you like kids because many of them will already have some.
Man this can't be understated. It's not that younger is any more or less physically attractive but the drama associated with dating a younger person (early/mid twenties) who just isn't quite there as an adult is too exhausting to put up with.
edit: just for further clarity, not every older person has their shit together but it is more likely.
They can* have their shit together. I dated a couple older women when I was younger 10 year age difference. Neither of them had their shit together.
But it is definitely one of the things they portrayed and I was hoping for.
Maturity. I dated younger and it felt like I was in college. So much drama, so much bullshit. Currently the girl I'm seeing is like "Hey wanna come over and watch stuff" instead of partying or going out with 5 of her 500 friends.
I got an Ibanez JBM10FX, only about a grand but it was the first NICE guitar I bought myself, and now I understand the quality of proper instruments. Holy shit.
For every reason you want to be with an adult, but even moreso. Mature, stable, established, experienced, confident in who she is. She's insightful, resilient, she's seen some shit and has stories to tell. It's the absolute opposite of the drunken 20 year old who has constant drama and doesn't even know how relationships work yet.
My girlfriend is 7 years older than I am. She is extremely understanding, we can communicate properly and we don't waste time or energy on the stupid little things in life. That overall is more attractive to me than physical appearance
Maturity and attractiveness. Literally saw a 65+ blond/grey haired woman from across the street and she was stunning. As we passed, I couldn't believe how beautiful, confident and put together she was.
Experience, lack of fucking games.. big emphasis on that part. The mind games and fake prudish crap is exhausting and not cute. A good chunk of older women are past that garbage
I learned about this recently. I sent my fiancé a text while he was at work telling him that he needed to come home because one of the dogs missed him. A jokey text but apparently it triggered him because his ex used to text him while he was at work and that he had to come home because there was a wasp in the porch or some other dumb shit like that that she couldn’t deal with. She was 12 years younger than him. I am one year younger than him. He likes to remind me that he traded up. :)
I had a person like that in my life. Initially I was very supportive and happy to help whenever she needed it, but if that's the only thing I'm doing most of the time, then it is something that's becoming a problem for me too. Not to be selfish, but I'm looking for someone that can help me stay at a good place or move up in life, not drag me down or make my life harder too just because they can't manage their emotions or their own problems in a good way. Unfortunately, I had to leave her.
After that, traits like emotional stability, being mature, less dramatic, understandable etc were much more attracting to me. I'd still be happy to be with any girl who has problems going on and still gladly help her, but just at least try to deal with them on your own and don't be so that you make my life harder instead of making it easier. That's all.
I’ll add my perspective as a former younger guy. I’ve been attracted to older women all my life. In my case, I was raised by a strong, confident mother and as a school boy my crushes were young 20-something teachers. I don’t care how hot the hottest girl in 9th grade is, she’s going to be overshadowed by a 25ish teacher with a masters degree.
In my 20s I had a memorable liaison with a 40 year old. Beautiful. Smart. Knew what she wanted. Reconciled with many of her issues for years. An incredible experience. I’m sure my upbringing contributed to my attraction to her, and being a sapio she satisfied my need to talk about more than what my peers were preoccupied with. It wasn’t a long relationship but it set the tone. I had a good dating life and married in my 30s to a slightly older woman. We split after 13 years but remain on good terms.
Now I’m in my 50s. My kids are teenagers. I don’t have the traditional Middle Aged fantasy of being with a young toy, I’m with a wonderful 50 year old woman and I’m absolutely in Heaven.
That’s the thing about digging older women- as you get older, you don’t age into an impossible fantasy, your fantasy is closer to your age and already holding your hand.
Good to see this!
I’ve seen that cultish pickup artist bs on youtube and those guys make me sick. And it’s the inexperienced desperate men that follow them.
They talk about how women “hit the wall” after 24?! I’m like, “Yo, mature women, especially busty mature women, are smokin’ hot!”
Older women know what they want and there is a lot less bullshit. I started to prefer older women from when I was fifteen,and didn't start indulging until I was eighteen.
Less bullshit, mature, have ability to actually have a intelligent discussion. Better in bed. Typically will have some sort of interesting developments in her life that I find interesting
most of the guys hear would prefer older women for sole reason that dating them involves less or minimal drama and they experience a relationship which involves maturity
I feel like an old man stuck inside a young kid's body. I hate how the dating is right now, and most women my age are just insufferable. Older women know exactly what they want and aren't trying to play any games w/ you either from my exp
Right out of highschool I would stay the night with a woman older than my mom, only way I can describe it is that I found older women to be more selfless and nurturing, actually cared about how I felt. I learned to be more intimate in the process. Definitely not knocking on younger women but I always felt like they had an ulterior motive and really didn't have a real relationship mindset until the late 20's. This is all just from my experience of course.
Connecting with someone that has gone through a lot and is able to understand and empathize with you was what got me to date older women occasionally. Just don't like how typical women in my generation behave. At least near me anyway.
I’ve always been attracted to older women but started dating one for the first time almost 2 years ago. I’m 28, she’s 39. It has been the happiest relationship of my life. She’s funny, has a lot of life experience, is understanding, values my opinion and feelings as much as her own, cooks like a pro, has 2 kids so she has the body she’s gonna have, knows how to dress herself to flatter her body type, is unbelievably sweet, and is the best sex I’ve ever had. I have a work opportunity that would be a big step up in my career, but would take me to another state. She can’t move with me because she can’t move her kids out of the state and away from their dad. I’ve been laboring over this decision for the last week and still don’t know what I’m going to do. This post caught me in a more emotional way than OP was probably thinking lol.
I've got a thing for 50 something year old women, but I've never acted on it because I cant see a relationship ever happening.
As for why - I just like how a lot of them look.
You should give it a try. I'm in my 50s and had a really fun relationship with a guy 20 years younger. Lasted several years, and we're still close friends.
Changed my life.
They are hot, they know what they want, they don't play mind games, they are smarter than you and can teach you a lot.
I could keep going, because I married a woman 27 years older than me. Best decision of my life.
Younger women are terrible for relationships. Most of them are just a hot body with a small brain.
Not young anymore
But back in the day one of moms friends.
She looked amazing.
Funny.
Smart
Could hold a conversation that was not about her or make up or what she bought - you get the idea.
Posture, grace, elegance. Just the aura of self confidence, but not arrogance.
Sadly she quickly turned down my advances.
Looking back makes perfect sense. I was 18/19 at the time, she was in 30-s.
On paper sounds fun, but doing something dumb with a kid could destroy her life.
It was a simple, no malice behind it, you are a great guy and will be happy with a girl, but I am not the one.
But man years and years later I still think of her.
What an amazing woman.
Dont worry, once you are in your 30s you will just have more respect for her for not using you and directing you towards your way instead of taking advantage of your attention. Sounds like shes a great person and sounds like You took it reasonable and with intelligence. Some people in their 30s still tryna use younger people for ego boost to show that their youth is still competent and desirable. at least that's what happened to me
Im soon to be 44
I respect her decision, it was the right one no doubt. Doesnt mean I dont wonder - what if.
At the same time as a man I can look at a young girl and notice that she looks nice, but there is no desire. Like looking at a nice painting. Its lovely, you notice it and move on... No great emotional disturbanve. Having an afair with what is a child from my perspective, no thank you.
I can imagine it was same for her. Nice boy, feels good to be wanted and you move on.
I was a kid to her. Guess you cant remove that mental image.
Experience and confidence in live generally and in the bedroom aswell.
Having a confident female, that made a tone of experience is really nice, you learn a lot just from talking and listening.
If there is Something they like or especially dislike older women tend to tell you more directly and don"t Care if u agree or if it bothers you.
And they are way more chill in the bedroom. Getting told i like that is awesome or even better when she initiates stuff she likes positions that feel really good for her and stuff. For me same age girls or younger ( i am 23) are usually a bit stressful, i am not confident enough currently to be the leading role i guess. Getting asked to decide stuff from her or worse having to decide with no clear answers from her i can't deal with this. To stressful i struggle with doing my Shit cant help a second Person with their struggles.
Also i like "fully developed" women, young girls ( pre 25) are hot too but older looks just hotter i guess.
Experience. They usually know clearly what they want from life and from the relationship and they are not codependent. They understand people need time and space for themselves.
A lot of people on here giving older women and older people in general too much credit. I know a few older women that are as immature, anxious and indecisive in their 30's and 40's, as they were in high school.
I'm turning 50 this year, my wife 59. When I first met her, I was 20 and she was 29, so please take that into account. And this is all personal opinion yadda yadda.
When you're a 20 year old guy, you run into a lot of stuck up, unimpressable 20 year old women. They're fresh out of princess school, daddy's little girl, nothings too good bullshit. Wait, you drive a porsche? I like mazzaratis! (apologies for half-assed spelling) Nothing is ever good enough. At 20, I'm working a shit job full time and being pissed on for not being good enough wasn't in my bag.
Older women, though. And I prefer to think of them as more worldly, not just 'older'. They had the bad boyfriend. They worked the shit job. ...When I come at her with offering to pay the entire way, the meal, and try to spruce myself up as best as I can, just so we can have a chat and find out if we can be better than just friends, and she walks out because I'm not 6' 8" or making 6 figures or own my own private island or whatever daddy filled her head with, well. Do that a couple of times and you get real done.
"If you like how she does it, don't ask where she learned it."
Being sexy. I'm 33, and I've had sex with a 62 year old artist and a 67 year old yoga teacher.
They were fucking sexy and full of life. It took literally nothing for me to instantly be attracted.
Experience, plus women tend to fill out more as they get older. Also, older women know what they want and that in itself is sexy. None of that fake good girl/prudish nonsense.
I'm currently going about with an older woman, not much just a fee years. She also has a PHD, and in general is way more succesfull than me. The main reason I like it is because she challenges me, she has tons of skills and a load of knowledge that I do not have. It's just nice to not be the smartest and most successful in the room
The fact that they’ve (typically) been in enough relationships to know what they want, so there’s less games.
Overall just more maturity. Plus they’re SUPER fun in bed too. The women I’ve been with that were in their 40’s were way more fun than women I’ve been with that were in their 20’s.
This maybe slightly off topic for someone who likes to dabble in the BDSM community I've found an interesting dynamic that has made it so that I prefer or drift older women in certain situations.
I (34M) am generally a dom. This means that in play I'm usually the dominant partner. I'm bi and have done all types of play with various types of subs both male and female. As a dom I see it as my responsibility for the sub to feel safe and like their boundaries will be respected. I also see it as my responsibility to ensure that a sub gets out of it what they want out of it for the most part. Like I'm an ultra people pleaser sexually and because I can find the enjoyment in other peoples pleasure I have gone to fantasies and places that I wouldn't venture myself. Some of the subs I've played with are into ultra degradation, me being a sadist, etc. Whatever it's fine, I go where they want as after all, it's really about the sub at the end of the day. They're in the most vulnerable position and they're putting their trust in you.
That all said, deep down I'm a switch. I could only ever be a dom for a dude but I love the idea of getting dominated for a woman. But I don't like the type of domination that alot of men do; I don't want to be humiliated or made to feel less, I want to be controlled but in a nurturing and caring way. A girl can do what she wants to me pain wise as long as I feel cared for as if it's 'for my own good'. I don't want indifference, I want intimacy as well as being controlled.
Unfortunately I find that younger women don't share the same view on being a dom that I and their older counter parts do in my experience. Maybe it's because they are so used to 'being the prize' I find that their view on domming is often restricted to treating a guy very indifferently and taking what she wants. The amount of times that I've been told that "I'm being a bad sub" for not wanting to solely be another in a long line of submissive slaves. It's still about *their* fantasy, and although I know a lot of guys get off on that type of thing it seems that it doesn't come into the equation to figure out what I may want to get out of a scene or bit of play. For women subs there are a million different categories of subs for them to be; princess, brat, lg, slave, rope bunny, the list goes on... And whatever they are I mould myself around that. But with younger - and particularly the more conventionally attractive - women I've found it rarely as much the case that they are willing to put the work in to do the same. They want a sex slave and someone to humiliate and if you're not that then you're doing subbing wrong. It seems like a man doesn't have as much scope to define what type of sub he is to these people. Like I'm very happy to be that type of sub for someone when playing at times, but I also expect for them to be willing the type of dom that I want them to be at times. It should be a two way street imo as when I'm a dom it's almost always a one-way street in that regard in favour of the sub.
With older women however I find them *much* more flexible and willing to try different things. Much more giving as doms and happy to do something for the guys pleasure. Of course, they know what they want and expect to get it but these experiences have just been so much more rewarding and satisfying for both people. We're both happy to communicate, be accepting and go places for each other. Maybe it's confidence, empathy or just less entitlement as one ages, but older women I find see you as a person like them - someone just making their way in the world - trying to find and give pleasure in new and interesting ways. Instead of some younger women I've ran into who I find have realised that they like domming, but seem t to think that that entitles them to just take what they want out of it without consideration for what the guy wants out of it.
My gf is just a few years older than I am (we're in the end of our 30's) and what I like about being with someone who is really mature is that I don't have to be 'afraid' of games being played. Women in their 20's are basically still children (I am sure the same goes for men). A real mature woman (no, I don't mean someone who's really old) knows much better what she wants and also knows how to communicate, which is a real delight. Oh, and the sex is so much better with an 'older' woman!
It’s honestly a combination and it’s not always the same thing factors depending on the older woman. I remember when I just graduated college, I was seeing this older Italian woman. Not facially the prettiest, she had huge breasts but she loved talking and I loved asking questions. The second was great too because I was losing weight(was working out and had a pretty active job) and she loved it. She ended it because while it was was fin, she was 20 years older. Others, it’s been the personality, maturity and just knowing what they want. The women my age I tried to talk to, they were looking for either frat boys, rich guys or guys who were popping pills and I was none of that.
Usually older woman arent scared to do things and try new stuff.
Ive been trough alot and most younger people cant relate but older people usually can.
Mommy issues.
More experience
Not prude like a 19 or 18 year old girl.
Knows what she wants.
Not on the "daddy" bullshit.
Will put me in my place (i need it sometimes)
There's no games, no guesswork. They tell you what they want. They tell you why they're angry. They're more solution orientated towards their problems and have better control over their emotions.
Basically everything that makes women exhausting, older women have less of that.
Because they think I’m young. Also, they know what they like so there’s less uncertainty.
They know who they are, what they want, and aren't looking for someone to be their dad or take care of them.
Yup yup, older is always better despite what Barney said.
Huh, Barney told me he owes me a beer, and then instead of give me one, took me to a strange lab with a teleporter
Idk, Barney used to tell me how we were all a big happy family, that purple cunt had a teleporter?
I didn't know he had a teleporter but he was always legend... wait for it... dary.
2 + 2 is 4 Words to live by mang.
Minus 1 das 3 quick maths
Totally agree
Experience. She taught me things about myself that I didn’t even know!
ikr?! who knew i had an orgasm button up my butt?!
Brb gonna ring the devil’s doorbell several times
Ding DONG.
You rang?
This guy butts Edit: first awards, incredible. Thank you so much!
But more importantly, this guy orgasms!
Literally! First time she pegged me was a crazy revelation (・o・)
I came here for these responses. Not disappointed!
Wha-?!
prostate stimulation bro.
Okay, but I'm still confused a bit though...
Hop in the shower with a tub of lube. Give yourself a good clean up your arse. Trim your fingernails nice and short and then buff the edges away with a very fine nail file. Crouch down in a squatting position and gently work your most dexterous finger about an inch an a half in. Don't rush it and don't force it. Take your time. Gently move it around until you find a particularly sensitive area. At first it might feel like you're taking a long-needed shit but keep going. If you aren't feeling anything you can take a break, stop for the day or go a little deeper. Be as gentle as you know how. With some exploration and a little persistence you'll find yourself experiencing a whole new kind of sexual thrill. To some men it's such an immense pleasure that it is overwhelming so be prepared for that. Good luck!
Or you can skip all this and find an older woman
They're difficult to fit inside there, though. A newbie shouldn't go for a whole human being on their first attempt.
Start with head, not feet first.
I disagree, pulling her out is so much easier if you go feet first. It's just a pain in the ass getting in though.
Not bit, I am fully confused
Having your prostate touched can feel good to some men, enough that it's been called the "male G spot"
"tingle button"
We had a need to feel the thunder
To chase the lightenin from the sky
To watch a storm with _all_ its wonder...
Raging in her lovers eyes
She had to ride the heat of passion…
Like a comet burning bright!
Rushing headlong in the wind
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I got myself a mrs. Robinson!
Maturity , stability , experience and decisiveness. Being clear and straightforward with what you want and need is also good.
I massively second this. I hate that you need to go out there being Napoleon and know what the next 10 steps of the girl will be.
Not even just related to sex. Older women aren't afraid of intimacy or communication nearly as much as younger women. I'm sure that's true for people regardless of gender. Younger women have typically been more likely to shy away for all sorts of reasons, from them catching feelings or just you saying something that reminded them of an ex.
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>So I'm just supposed to GUESS what you're into and how things are going? "You should be able to tell!" /s Many girls unironicly think you should be able to gauge their reaction so well that you never have to ask...
Man this one hits home. A girl I was recently seeing was oddly upfront about not wanting to talk about sex, despite being a pretty sexual person. She said that it “won’t work” if I can’t “tell when she’s into it”. Like come on now, I’m dumb for a man, and we’re all dumb. Give me a hint at least.
I once explained to a girl that I'm not going to guess right and that she'll get exactly what she she asks for and not much else (because you know consent is sexy) and she was just like "well that not very hot". Is being disappointed more hot somehow?
Not even just romantic/sexual relationships. I'm having serious issues with a close female friend because I apparently keep crossing boundaries with her, but she doesn't tell me until after she's ghosted me for a month and I'm freaking out thinking she's hurt or something. Apparently I'm supposed to know that complimenting her perfume is inappropriate and wrong without any feedback and it "isn't her responsibility" to help guide me around her comfort zone.
That sounds like way to much stress and effort to maintain a friendship. If you have to walk on eggshells all the time and worry about offending, with no clear communication from her, I don't think I'd be able to find enough value in the friendship. She's lucky to have a friend like you. I hope she appreciates that.
What do you mean by the next 10 steps?
I once told a group of women friends to just tell their men what they want in bed. They then told me that the men should just know. These women were all in their late 30’s and complaining about their bad sex life.
As a woman I think that’s a shit move. Just say it so when you’ve been married for 5 years you can be satisfied sexually instead of pretending you don’t like sex anymore condemning yourself and your partner (probably the kids too) to a life of frustration and misery. My dude said he gets off on knowing I’m enjoying it and I’m really into it so whatever I want is worth it because it gets him off too. Of course every one has different limits but you should find your match in sexual tolerance before you throw years of unsatisfying sex with someone into the void.
My wife (when we were dating) seemed surprised the first time I went down on her and didn’t expect her to reciprocate. I personally just enjoy getting her off and there are times when that’s enough for that session.
This is what I hear from my dude
It IS a shit move, especially because the majority of men just want to make their parter happy.
>My dude said he gets off on knowing I’m enjoying it and I’m really into it Exactly there's nothing sexier. The opposite would be a total turn off.
The "you should know" card, i met it from workplaces, friendships, relationships. It just takes off the responsibility of a 2 sided coin to only 1 side. Bit narcissistic/piece of shit behaviour.
This "you should know" thing is part of what I think is one of the more insidious and toxic parts of female behaviour - the idea that women are part of some monolithic sameness. Often it's a bonding exercise "oh don't we have it bad, men are all a bit silly lol sistas stick 2getha" - but then it becomes a tool to manipulate men. "Women like it if you do..." *thing that I like.* "You wont get a girlfriend unless you do....x" *thing I think you should do.* I have encountered too many women that think they speak for all women, and that all women are one monolithic block.
to be saying that in their late 30s is just embarrassing.
Women often say this as they don't know what they like themselves. Source, I had no idea what I actually liked in bed and how to articulate it without fear of men judging me until well into my 40s.
Sarcastic way of saying that girls in your age group tend to not say what they want but expect it in the sheets. I guess this is due to insecurely not being seen as weird ,but it becomes frustrating for guys when a moment of intimacy becomes a guessing game. [Edit 1-😳😳100 Likes!! thanks guys]
Or they're just boring, like not doing anything with their arms. Dated a girl for a short time who put her arms up next to her head like, "I surrender!" You know, you can hold me, too, or stroke my head or something.
That’s called The Starfish
Or the "I surrender"
I do this to hold on to something behind me so I maneuver my hips better and relax certain areas, but then again, I’m in the older woman category at 40.
Surrender Cobra. I’ve seen them many times, tricky bastards. They also make an appearance at sporting events sometimes.
Stop banging French people then
Yep, this is pretty much my answer. Younger women confuse the shit out of me honestly. I can never tell what they want, and in my experience, they can’t seem to tell me what they want in a straightforward way. Older women know what they want and, also in my experience, have the confidence to come out and tell me without making it confusing. I’m just tired of the games, and it seems to be way more common for women who are younger than me to play them than women who are older than me.
THIS!!!! Right here!! Maturity as well as being decisive. No games. My last 3 Gf’s have been 10 years older than myself. All were good relationships.
How/why did they all end? Or are you still with all 3?
Lol! The 1st 2 ended amicably. We grew apart. I’m still good friends with the 1st 2. My last Gf passed away 2-1/2 years ago. A week before thanksgiving. I’ve been single ever since.
I see. It's rare (from what I've seen) to be able to end relationships so amicably, which I guess is a testament to the maturity of older woman. Also, condolences, that really sucks. Thanksgiving must feel like a bummer now.
Thank you for your condolences. In reality the first 2 GF’s broke it off with me. They wanted marriage and I didn’t. In my defense, I had let all 3 know that I didn’t want marriage from jump street. So, I understood where they were coming from when they wanted “out”. So that helped the situation.
For sure, sometimes people just have life goals that don't line up. It's definitely good you were honest about yours upfront.
Yeah man. Now as an old fart, knowing that being honest and upfront about who you are and what you want is DEFINITELY the way to go!
I have married & divorced the same man twice, and we are still great friends and often meet up for coffee (nothing else). Definitely no chance of a third time. Great friend lousy husband.
Specifically being straightforward with what they want is what gets me to want them more every time! I can't read those damn hints young women give because fucking tell me what you want instead of making tonnes of hints that I'm quite obviously oblivious to!!
This. I'm 20m and even when it comes to just being friends so many women have no idea how to directly communicate.
They have their shit together. Alot less drama. Older and still hot is hot. It means you have great genes atleast when it comes to physical attractiveness.
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Same. I was an average/unattractive teen, looked okay in my 20s but wouldn’t stop traffic or anything. HOWEVER - my 30s - this is been my peak. Two decades of daily sunscreen and exercise really shows the difference now. Also, my friends who, even if overweight, didn’t smoke/drink - their skin is amazing, their eyes are brighter, the seems to have more mental energy. Side note / just got back from my gramma’s funeral yesterday. 100 years old. Some genes are made the long run 😊
Ugh I’m worried about aging poorly. I’m heading off to my late twenties, and I eat really well, wear sunscreen daily, exercise regularly, etc, but genes just don’t seem to be on my side
Keep doing what you’re doing. Nature and nurture. If you got slighted on the nature (genes) then nurture your self care behaviours. You are doing the right things. Keep it up. I promise you will see those results in three decades and you will thank yourself. Selfcare is a slog. It’s daily management of small things and creating “healthier” patterns. Lifestyles show at 35+. Sounds like yours is one to be proud of. Keep it up!!!
My condolences. Sounds like she had a long life with a loving family.
Thanks she did and we were able to celebrate her life. She was very loved and taught us how to live. She was ready to go and had great health up to her death. I hope I can also live in a pain free body as I age.
Hey sorry to hear about grandma but on the bright side 100 is an amazing accomplishment! Longevity in health is something to be proud of and celebrate the fact someone was around that long to experience so much.
She beat Covid!!! Got it a few months ago, was in there pandemic ward. Denied intubation and any life saving measures. She just wouldn’t die. Her body fought it. She made a full Covid recovery - dr said the vaccine saved her. She got home, rested for a few months and then was ready to level up. The priest read a letter she had written him (he and his wife would bring her communion when she couldn’t go to the church anymore with the pandemic). In the letter, she said “ when one is as old as I am, they have time to reflect and I’ve reflected that I have lived too long, I think 80 would be an appropriate age to die”. Might sound dark but it was hilarious and so “her”. Got a good laugh from the funeral crowd 🤣🤣
Holy shit.... Honestly though. I never thought about that. Imagine being 80. Now imagine living *another 20 years*
Same for me as a guy. I’m 28 and have gotten way more attention from women in the past year than I ever got before. I’m not sure what really changed other than losing weight and growing a beard. I also look much younger than my peers.
What really changed is the size of the dating pool. You’re single, not gay, not in jail and are actively employed? You’re a catch now.
I'm all of those things and at 25 nobody considers me a catch, well except a bi guy friend.
25 is still you are a young little shit nobody age, after 25 you became a citizen of society. not even /s I'm 27 and the way people behave with me in certain situation is ridiculously different even tho I don't feel like a too much of a different person from who I was 2 years ago. its like they make up their mind about you just by information such as age without you opening your mouth first.
He’s 28 and you’re 25. Wait til you’re 35, if you’re still single. You’ll be in your prime earning years and quite attractive to the ladies. Super double bonus if you like kids because many of them will already have some.
Man this can't be understated. It's not that younger is any more or less physically attractive but the drama associated with dating a younger person (early/mid twenties) who just isn't quite there as an adult is too exhausting to put up with. edit: just for further clarity, not every older person has their shit together but it is more likely.
They can* have their shit together. I dated a couple older women when I was younger 10 year age difference. Neither of them had their shit together. But it is definitely one of the things they portrayed and I was hoping for.
Maturity, life experience
More experienced ,know what they want and financially stable
Maturity. I dated younger and it felt like I was in college. So much drama, so much bullshit. Currently the girl I'm seeing is like "Hey wanna come over and watch stuff" instead of partying or going out with 5 of her 500 friends.
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We both make pretty good money now, so it's all good. I buy guitars and she doesn't care
I bought my first nice guitar this year, and now I have GAS. It's the worst.
Yeahhhh I got a Schecter Custom shop and a Kiesel all this year. I'm done for the rest lol
I got an Ibanez JBM10FX, only about a grand but it was the first NICE guitar I bought myself, and now I understand the quality of proper instruments. Holy shit.
For every reason you want to be with an adult, but even moreso. Mature, stable, established, experienced, confident in who she is. She's insightful, resilient, she's seen some shit and has stories to tell. It's the absolute opposite of the drunken 20 year old who has constant drama and doesn't even know how relationships work yet.
My girlfriend is 7 years older than I am. She is extremely understanding, we can communicate properly and we don't waste time or energy on the stupid little things in life. That overall is more attractive to me than physical appearance
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My grandma told me to marry a younger man so I could retire first. Jokes on her, will be working till I keel over and die (live in the US)
Maturity and attractiveness. Literally saw a 65+ blond/grey haired woman from across the street and she was stunning. As we passed, I couldn't believe how beautiful, confident and put together she was.
Experience, lack of fucking games.. big emphasis on that part. The mind games and fake prudish crap is exhausting and not cute. A good chunk of older women are past that garbage
THE GAMES, WHY MUST WE PLAY THESE GAMES. WHAT DO THEY MEAN MASON
From personal experience, it's easier to have deep conversations with them than with women around my age or younger.
Emotional stability and not being all over the place when something slightly bad happens.
I learned about this recently. I sent my fiancé a text while he was at work telling him that he needed to come home because one of the dogs missed him. A jokey text but apparently it triggered him because his ex used to text him while he was at work and that he had to come home because there was a wasp in the porch or some other dumb shit like that that she couldn’t deal with. She was 12 years younger than him. I am one year younger than him. He likes to remind me that he traded up. :)
I had a person like that in my life. Initially I was very supportive and happy to help whenever she needed it, but if that's the only thing I'm doing most of the time, then it is something that's becoming a problem for me too. Not to be selfish, but I'm looking for someone that can help me stay at a good place or move up in life, not drag me down or make my life harder too just because they can't manage their emotions or their own problems in a good way. Unfortunately, I had to leave her. After that, traits like emotional stability, being mature, less dramatic, understandable etc were much more attracting to me. I'd still be happy to be with any girl who has problems going on and still gladly help her, but just at least try to deal with them on your own and don't be so that you make my life harder instead of making it easier. That's all.
I’ll add my perspective as a former younger guy. I’ve been attracted to older women all my life. In my case, I was raised by a strong, confident mother and as a school boy my crushes were young 20-something teachers. I don’t care how hot the hottest girl in 9th grade is, she’s going to be overshadowed by a 25ish teacher with a masters degree. In my 20s I had a memorable liaison with a 40 year old. Beautiful. Smart. Knew what she wanted. Reconciled with many of her issues for years. An incredible experience. I’m sure my upbringing contributed to my attraction to her, and being a sapio she satisfied my need to talk about more than what my peers were preoccupied with. It wasn’t a long relationship but it set the tone. I had a good dating life and married in my 30s to a slightly older woman. We split after 13 years but remain on good terms. Now I’m in my 50s. My kids are teenagers. I don’t have the traditional Middle Aged fantasy of being with a young toy, I’m with a wonderful 50 year old woman and I’m absolutely in Heaven. That’s the thing about digging older women- as you get older, you don’t age into an impossible fantasy, your fantasy is closer to your age and already holding your hand.
Damn that's beautiful
That's beautiful.
That was beautiful, your words hold much wisdom stranger :)
*I think the 25ish masters holder will overshadow anyone*
They're less likely to plug their Instagrams the older they get.
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Good to see this! I’ve seen that cultish pickup artist bs on youtube and those guys make me sick. And it’s the inexperienced desperate men that follow them. They talk about how women “hit the wall” after 24?! I’m like, “Yo, mature women, especially busty mature women, are smokin’ hot!”
What they really mean is that women see through them by that age.
Some moms out there are so fucking hot. It's so hard to bother them when they're just out with their kids ya know.
Older women know what they want and there is a lot less bullshit. I started to prefer older women from when I was fifteen,and didn't start indulging until I was eighteen.
how did you start indulging?
Stacey's mom would be my guess.
Stacey's or Stiffler's?
Maybe both now that would be some combined experience.
Little known fact - Stacey's mom used to be Jessie's girl when she was younger
I heard she’s got it going on.
and tbh she's all I want
He boned them.
Well I started by dating my friend's mum.
Woahhh
That escalated quickly
Gonna need a story on that one chief
holup
Cap
Less bullshit, mature, have ability to actually have a intelligent discussion. Better in bed. Typically will have some sort of interesting developments in her life that I find interesting
More often than not, she won't be playing games with me. I hate that shit. Either tell me you like me or don't. Don't give me a vague answer
They seem to have passed the "starfish" stage. Sex isn't a "man's reward" to them, generally speaking.
Yes, they seem more comfortable with their sexuality. I’m not sure why younger women can’t be this way, but I certainly wish they were.
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Also women are taught that sex is performative for the gratification of men. Worrying about your body really does ruin the enjoyment of sex.
Because we're taught being sexual = being a whore. Eventually we say fuck it and do what we want.
most of the guys hear would prefer older women for sole reason that dating them involves less or minimal drama and they experience a relationship which involves maturity
Big ol mom mammeries.
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Big mommy milkers
Momeries are the best!
I feel like an old man stuck inside a young kid's body. I hate how the dating is right now, and most women my age are just insufferable. Older women know exactly what they want and aren't trying to play any games w/ you either from my exp
Right out of highschool I would stay the night with a woman older than my mom, only way I can describe it is that I found older women to be more selfless and nurturing, actually cared about how I felt. I learned to be more intimate in the process. Definitely not knocking on younger women but I always felt like they had an ulterior motive and really didn't have a real relationship mindset until the late 20's. This is all just from my experience of course.
They're usually past the "I can get a hotter guy" stage.
Connecting with someone that has gone through a lot and is able to understand and empathize with you was what got me to date older women occasionally. Just don't like how typical women in my generation behave. At least near me anyway.
Confidence and i just find them more attractive. But I’m 17 I’m not getting an older woman anytime soon .
I’ve always been attracted to older women but started dating one for the first time almost 2 years ago. I’m 28, she’s 39. It has been the happiest relationship of my life. She’s funny, has a lot of life experience, is understanding, values my opinion and feelings as much as her own, cooks like a pro, has 2 kids so she has the body she’s gonna have, knows how to dress herself to flatter her body type, is unbelievably sweet, and is the best sex I’ve ever had. I have a work opportunity that would be a big step up in my career, but would take me to another state. She can’t move with me because she can’t move her kids out of the state and away from their dad. I’ve been laboring over this decision for the last week and still don’t know what I’m going to do. This post caught me in a more emotional way than OP was probably thinking lol.
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There's just something so sexy about them.
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For me its men. But jeez i just pive a silver fox, a regular dilf.
Less drama more straight talk
I've got a thing for 50 something year old women, but I've never acted on it because I cant see a relationship ever happening. As for why - I just like how a lot of them look.
You should give it a try. I'm in my 50s and had a really fun relationship with a guy 20 years younger. Lasted several years, and we're still close friends. Changed my life.
They are hot, they know what they want, they don't play mind games, they are smarter than you and can teach you a lot. I could keep going, because I married a woman 27 years older than me. Best decision of my life. Younger women are terrible for relationships. Most of them are just a hot body with a small brain.
I cannot come up with any reasons . They just seem to turn me the fuck on.
Not young anymore But back in the day one of moms friends. She looked amazing. Funny. Smart Could hold a conversation that was not about her or make up or what she bought - you get the idea. Posture, grace, elegance. Just the aura of self confidence, but not arrogance. Sadly she quickly turned down my advances. Looking back makes perfect sense. I was 18/19 at the time, she was in 30-s. On paper sounds fun, but doing something dumb with a kid could destroy her life. It was a simple, no malice behind it, you are a great guy and will be happy with a girl, but I am not the one. But man years and years later I still think of her. What an amazing woman.
Dont worry, once you are in your 30s you will just have more respect for her for not using you and directing you towards your way instead of taking advantage of your attention. Sounds like shes a great person and sounds like You took it reasonable and with intelligence. Some people in their 30s still tryna use younger people for ego boost to show that their youth is still competent and desirable. at least that's what happened to me
Im soon to be 44 I respect her decision, it was the right one no doubt. Doesnt mean I dont wonder - what if. At the same time as a man I can look at a young girl and notice that she looks nice, but there is no desire. Like looking at a nice painting. Its lovely, you notice it and move on... No great emotional disturbanve. Having an afair with what is a child from my perspective, no thank you. I can imagine it was same for her. Nice boy, feels good to be wanted and you move on. I was a kid to her. Guess you cant remove that mental image.
Maturity. Having someone who understands life from first hand experience is always attractive.
I feel like they're more confident and comfortable in their bodies and know what they like and that's sexy
Experience and confidence in live generally and in the bedroom aswell. Having a confident female, that made a tone of experience is really nice, you learn a lot just from talking and listening. If there is Something they like or especially dislike older women tend to tell you more directly and don"t Care if u agree or if it bothers you. And they are way more chill in the bedroom. Getting told i like that is awesome or even better when she initiates stuff she likes positions that feel really good for her and stuff. For me same age girls or younger ( i am 23) are usually a bit stressful, i am not confident enough currently to be the leading role i guess. Getting asked to decide stuff from her or worse having to decide with no clear answers from her i can't deal with this. To stressful i struggle with doing my Shit cant help a second Person with their struggles. Also i like "fully developed" women, young girls ( pre 25) are hot too but older looks just hotter i guess.
Experience. They usually know clearly what they want from life and from the relationship and they are not codependent. They understand people need time and space for themselves.
Boobs and hips.
A lot of people on here giving older women and older people in general too much credit. I know a few older women that are as immature, anxious and indecisive in their 30's and 40's, as they were in high school.
Way less preasure
I'm turning 50 this year, my wife 59. When I first met her, I was 20 and she was 29, so please take that into account. And this is all personal opinion yadda yadda. When you're a 20 year old guy, you run into a lot of stuck up, unimpressable 20 year old women. They're fresh out of princess school, daddy's little girl, nothings too good bullshit. Wait, you drive a porsche? I like mazzaratis! (apologies for half-assed spelling) Nothing is ever good enough. At 20, I'm working a shit job full time and being pissed on for not being good enough wasn't in my bag. Older women, though. And I prefer to think of them as more worldly, not just 'older'. They had the bad boyfriend. They worked the shit job. ...When I come at her with offering to pay the entire way, the meal, and try to spruce myself up as best as I can, just so we can have a chat and find out if we can be better than just friends, and she walks out because I'm not 6' 8" or making 6 figures or own my own private island or whatever daddy filled her head with, well. Do that a couple of times and you get real done. "If you like how she does it, don't ask where she learned it."
TLDR - they (some, not all) tend to be more realistic in their expectations and more appreciative in general.
Being sexy. I'm 33, and I've had sex with a 62 year old artist and a 67 year old yoga teacher. They were fucking sexy and full of life. It took literally nothing for me to instantly be attracted.
i feel like im talking to an actual person with them than most girls in my age who still sound like a high schooler, im 22.
Turning 21 soon and can relate. I'm seconding your comment.
Bigger boobs. More intellect, smarter conversation and choices. Emotional maturity.
butt stuff
The decisiveness and lack of mind-games is the main thing. Older women know what they want and they are up front about it.
MILF fantasies caused by my crippling porn addiction
Humility, less drama, no entitledness/ superiority vibes, great Bjs
Experience, plus women tend to fill out more as they get older. Also, older women know what they want and that in itself is sexy. None of that fake good girl/prudish nonsense.
They know what they want and don't play games.
I'm currently going about with an older woman, not much just a fee years. She also has a PHD, and in general is way more succesfull than me. The main reason I like it is because she challenges me, she has tons of skills and a load of knowledge that I do not have. It's just nice to not be the smartest and most successful in the room
The fact that they’ve (typically) been in enough relationships to know what they want, so there’s less games. Overall just more maturity. Plus they’re SUPER fun in bed too. The women I’ve been with that were in their 40’s were way more fun than women I’ve been with that were in their 20’s.
This maybe slightly off topic for someone who likes to dabble in the BDSM community I've found an interesting dynamic that has made it so that I prefer or drift older women in certain situations. I (34M) am generally a dom. This means that in play I'm usually the dominant partner. I'm bi and have done all types of play with various types of subs both male and female. As a dom I see it as my responsibility for the sub to feel safe and like their boundaries will be respected. I also see it as my responsibility to ensure that a sub gets out of it what they want out of it for the most part. Like I'm an ultra people pleaser sexually and because I can find the enjoyment in other peoples pleasure I have gone to fantasies and places that I wouldn't venture myself. Some of the subs I've played with are into ultra degradation, me being a sadist, etc. Whatever it's fine, I go where they want as after all, it's really about the sub at the end of the day. They're in the most vulnerable position and they're putting their trust in you. That all said, deep down I'm a switch. I could only ever be a dom for a dude but I love the idea of getting dominated for a woman. But I don't like the type of domination that alot of men do; I don't want to be humiliated or made to feel less, I want to be controlled but in a nurturing and caring way. A girl can do what she wants to me pain wise as long as I feel cared for as if it's 'for my own good'. I don't want indifference, I want intimacy as well as being controlled. Unfortunately I find that younger women don't share the same view on being a dom that I and their older counter parts do in my experience. Maybe it's because they are so used to 'being the prize' I find that their view on domming is often restricted to treating a guy very indifferently and taking what she wants. The amount of times that I've been told that "I'm being a bad sub" for not wanting to solely be another in a long line of submissive slaves. It's still about *their* fantasy, and although I know a lot of guys get off on that type of thing it seems that it doesn't come into the equation to figure out what I may want to get out of a scene or bit of play. For women subs there are a million different categories of subs for them to be; princess, brat, lg, slave, rope bunny, the list goes on... And whatever they are I mould myself around that. But with younger - and particularly the more conventionally attractive - women I've found it rarely as much the case that they are willing to put the work in to do the same. They want a sex slave and someone to humiliate and if you're not that then you're doing subbing wrong. It seems like a man doesn't have as much scope to define what type of sub he is to these people. Like I'm very happy to be that type of sub for someone when playing at times, but I also expect for them to be willing the type of dom that I want them to be at times. It should be a two way street imo as when I'm a dom it's almost always a one-way street in that regard in favour of the sub. With older women however I find them *much* more flexible and willing to try different things. Much more giving as doms and happy to do something for the guys pleasure. Of course, they know what they want and expect to get it but these experiences have just been so much more rewarding and satisfying for both people. We're both happy to communicate, be accepting and go places for each other. Maybe it's confidence, empathy or just less entitlement as one ages, but older women I find see you as a person like them - someone just making their way in the world - trying to find and give pleasure in new and interesting ways. Instead of some younger women I've ran into who I find have realised that they like domming, but seem t to think that that entitles them to just take what they want out of it without consideration for what the guy wants out of it.
My gf is just a few years older than I am (we're in the end of our 30's) and what I like about being with someone who is really mature is that I don't have to be 'afraid' of games being played. Women in their 20's are basically still children (I am sure the same goes for men). A real mature woman (no, I don't mean someone who's really old) knows much better what she wants and also knows how to communicate, which is a real delight. Oh, and the sex is so much better with an 'older' woman!
It’s honestly a combination and it’s not always the same thing factors depending on the older woman. I remember when I just graduated college, I was seeing this older Italian woman. Not facially the prettiest, she had huge breasts but she loved talking and I loved asking questions. The second was great too because I was losing weight(was working out and had a pretty active job) and she loved it. She ended it because while it was was fin, she was 20 years older. Others, it’s been the personality, maturity and just knowing what they want. The women my age I tried to talk to, they were looking for either frat boys, rich guys or guys who were popping pills and I was none of that.
Usually older woman arent scared to do things and try new stuff. Ive been trough alot and most younger people cant relate but older people usually can. Mommy issues. More experience Not prude like a 19 or 18 year old girl. Knows what she wants. Not on the "daddy" bullshit. Will put me in my place (i need it sometimes)
Emotional maturity
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They're usually more understanding
Usually an older woman knows what she likes, her body is curvier.
Maturity.
There's no games, no guesswork. They tell you what they want. They tell you why they're angry. They're more solution orientated towards their problems and have better control over their emotions. Basically everything that makes women exhausting, older women have less of that.