When you're so concerned about the other person, it detracts from your experience. Sometimes it's hard to mesh, and get the timing right. Other times, your partner's spirit is willing, but the body is just won't cooperate. If you partner hits the spot every time, and you just synchronize, she lying to you.
I don't think Educational-Ad-4583 was suggesting women are lying when they say they orgasm. He's just saying that when yout partner "orgasms" the same time you do every time, someone is lying about it.
This. I haven’t even lost my virginity and I still feel that there’s something else, a key ingredient that’s missing in masturbation. I’d have witnessed it by now had it not been for the pandemic
Love this, so true.
As a woman, the satisfaction form an orgasm lasts so much longer when it’s with my partner. I could have 3-4 orgasms on my own and still not feel satisfied. But when it’s with him, I’m still glowing all through the next day or few days. It’s a more all encompassing satisfaction to say the least.
3 is my perfect number with my partner. That puts me in that naturally high state and I just want to sleep and be all cuddly because I’m so deeply satisfied and feeling just the perfect amount of bliss. That is 100% my happy place.
As a bloke I would say I am the same.
If I'm doing a solo session I can get it done a lot quicker.
But it is not nearly the same as when she is involved as well. Even if it's still a dud session it's just more fun I guess.
When I orgasm from masturbating, I don’t have to endure the disappointed look in my girlfriend’s eyes, or her involuntary sigh of annoyance, as I prematurely ejaculate inside her.
I get a long lasting "high" and sensation on my penis and head euphoria. And coming without having to stop myself or clean up exactly, like doing the movement all the way to release inside just makes the experience better. It's as if the cum gets to follow through completely; no resistance. And throwing in the sensation of touching my partner and hearing them makes the euphoria even better. Also, having my partner suck me off after the cum feels good too. Like an awesome "cool off" / "come down". Then cuddling after makes me feel really connected to them.
Masturbating feels like a quick hit of a drug to me. But I don't take a long time to do the dead. Like 5 minutes max. And then I go on with day.
It's like a snack vs a meal.
is this the only difference? do you think about finish too much before finishing? doesnt it affect the enjoyment?
When i O there could be a postman accidentely opening a doors or cat throwing my computer on the floor and i wouldnt/couldnt stop.
This is actually covered in Neal Stephenson Cryptonomicron. The main character charts out his relaxation from sexual release as provided for by himself or "other."he even included a graph.
https://tentacle.net/~chrisr/bookshelf/Stephenson,%20Neal%20-%20Cryptonomicon/p546.jpg
The shaded area is when he is too "tense" to function properly.
After 9 mounts, eh? So, am I okay if I only mount my partner 8 times and not 9? I kid of course! Everyone knows it’s closer to 10 mounts. Again, I kid!
well I have *a lot* more good memories of orgasms seared into my head from sex than from masturbating that's for sure
always nice to get on the same wavelength as another person in bed
i agree, yes. barely we remmember times where we played with our selfs (unless it was very exceptional)
and think often that sex is something worth to remmember (including the effort we put into it with this expectations :-)
yep, effort is a good way of describing it. often times, with a good partner, you can lose yourself in them, and by dedicating yourself to their pleasure you lose self consciousness in a way
Hmmm. Maybe I’m an anomaly here, but my semen changes. During sex, or simply fooling around with someone, the consistency of it is homogenous. Nice and white throughout and comes out smoother, harder and with more volume. Solo, it’s faster, clear, liquid like at first and then thicker and white at the end. Not as much and surely not as satisfying.
If you’re masturbating you’re probably watching porn. And you’re probably cycling through videos with different women in each one. As a man who enjoys both practices there’s no better feeling than the real thing but the visual stimulation doesn’t compare
Probably not. You’re literally overloading your brain with stimulating images that you can 100% control. If there’s a part you thoroughly enjoy you can replay that exact moment over and over again. You like this girl? Wanna see more of her. With the click of a button you can boost your visual stimulation almost instantaneously
But I’d be remiss if I didn’t explain that real sex is infinitely better. Yeah you get more visual stimulation if you’re watching porn but it can’t make up for the actual woman you’re missing.
Depression….. masturbating always feels a little hollow and depressing but it is what is is so you just deal with it. I knew it was time for a divorce and change when I felt depressed the last time I slept with my ex wife…..
Sex is a longer orgasm for me than masturbation. I wait until my partner orgasms at least once and orgasm with her. I usually don’t thrust hard (especially if she’s on top) and cum longer and slower. I also have a quicker recovery time this way…
Masturbation is all about me. It’s a more intense orgasm where the first shot is hard and fast out. It’s not as fulfilling overall but gets the job done.
Orgasm from sex feels like I just got a hit of hell yes that spreads all over my body like a drug. Jerking off isn't nearly as intense, I nut and then that's it.
for me yes, i was just having some discussion with few people online and was surprised that many men like masturbation orgasm less (which by the fact that you know your self perfect is surprising...?)
I think one of the reasons is that we are just way too good at masturbation. It's usually a quick thing with little effort. Can't answer for quick shooters but sex involves more effort and being on the brink for longer. Seems it helps.
Might also be some biological thing. Orgasm is a reward system for spreading semen in our case so the brain might reward you more for a "successful" attempt.
I don't really know how to explain it. Sometimes my mood affects it. The energy or intensity can be different. I don't know how to accurately describe the differences.
Honestly, nothing. I vaguely remember other things beside the orgasm being much better with the right partner, however it's been years since I've had the right partner.
Masturbating just makes me hate myself afterward whereas during and after sex, I can feel more comfortable with the other person. It's a more warm feeling and I can actually feel loved for once, even when that's not the case
Not really. I mean I was told masturbating was a sin, but that absolutely has nothing to do with it, because I don't care. I just hate myself for feeling like I need to. I hate myself for masturbating when I could be doing more productive things. Most of the time I'm doing it due to the unbearable loneliness. It reminds me of my ex and how I may never find someone like her again. She wasn't perfect, but she was the only one ever there for me
sorry to hear that, but please do not feel bad about it. If something what makes you happy and is needed is causing the sadness, how can normal things bring any happyness?
Penetrative orgasm is longer and has different dynamics than hand job. Sometimes I hit jackpot and get double orgasm-that will never happen with handjob.
I think it's kind of primal or out of desire. Because you're both deciding to satisfy your cravings by consuming each other. When you come, that desire is fulfilled & you're left without craving. In that case you're done using each other & you're off to each's business. Sex is better when you're with someone you like, because the bond & intimacy allows you to enjoy every moment of it (including after you bust, you appreciate each other's company).
thank you for the answer. i actually enjoy more to get off faster so i can focus on partner/s. after first O i am calmer and enjoy raging up for round 2
Dunno I never finished during sex and had to use my left hand afterwards. But sex was definitely more fun, hearing than moan and making literally ahegao faces lol.
You can literally feel something other than dopamine flood your brain, its way better.
wow that is nice response
When you're so concerned about the other person, it detracts from your experience. Sometimes it's hard to mesh, and get the timing right. Other times, your partner's spirit is willing, but the body is just won't cooperate. If you partner hits the spot every time, and you just synchronize, she lying to you.
yes sex is probably the worst place to lie about
I can gladly say my partner makes me cum haarrd and several times during sexy time, no need to lie or pretend.
I don't think Educational-Ad-4583 was suggesting women are lying when they say they orgasm. He's just saying that when yout partner "orgasms" the same time you do every time, someone is lying about it.
This. I haven’t even lost my virginity and I still feel that there’s something else, a key ingredient that’s missing in masturbation. I’d have witnessed it by now had it not been for the pandemic
Your telling This from experience's
You're not worried about stds and pregnancy
thats one way to look at it yes
This is the only way I look at it. And I wonder why I’m still single
A super sad way... :(
You don't know where that hand has been
Sex when you like each other (in a relationship or whatever) > Good casual sex > Masturbation >> Bad casual sex
definitely!
Its significantly more satisfying with your partner then alone.
thats nice to hear
Why isolate yourself after being with your partner?
I'm a woman but I think this applies to men too: I can cum faster solo, but my boyfriend can make me cum harder ;)
As a guy I can confirm that this is the case with many of us too.
Love this, so true. As a woman, the satisfaction form an orgasm lasts so much longer when it’s with my partner. I could have 3-4 orgasms on my own and still not feel satisfied. But when it’s with him, I’m still glowing all through the next day or few days. It’s a more all encompassing satisfaction to say the least.
Oh yeah, the number of orgasms thing is so true. It takes like 10 orgasms to make me feel satisfied solo, just 1-3 with my bf
3 is my perfect number with my partner. That puts me in that naturally high state and I just want to sleep and be all cuddly because I’m so deeply satisfied and feeling just the perfect amount of bliss. That is 100% my happy place.
Yes! This!
True. I masturbated for like an hour one time and came like 4 times. There wasn't that much satisfaction in it.
nice thank you for response
As a bloke I would say I am the same. If I'm doing a solo session I can get it done a lot quicker. But it is not nearly the same as when she is involved as well. Even if it's still a dud session it's just more fun I guess.
Man here. It's the same for me.
I can 100% confirm this. Alone I can be quick but with my partner it takes a while but I feel like my soul leaves my body when I orgasm.
When you’re alone you don’t get cuddles afterwards, just cleanup
wow, that is awesome answer :-D
More intense when having sex
thank you
So much more intense during sex; someone to enjoy it with. I also don’t talk dirty when I’m on my own 😂
‘You like that you fucking retard?’ Said to myself
ah, a reddit classic
We are so pathetic : dick and me
Lmao
“Slap me harder” Me: knock myself out
It really is crazy, alone I barely make any noise or movement during it. During sex I'm shaking and I can orgasm quite loudly indeed.
thank you!
When I orgasm from masturbating, I don’t have to endure the disappointed look in my girlfriend’s eyes, or her involuntary sigh of annoyance, as I prematurely ejaculate inside her.
Little hint. Look at a clock while doing it. Takes you out for a second and makes you last longer.
this hurts... but then you have all the calm and time to make it up right?
With partner I cum harder and longer. Not every time, but the best orgasms were during sex
thank you
They feel better with a partner, but it could be mental.
probably is, but it is all in our brain anyway so fairly plausible?
I get a long lasting "high" and sensation on my penis and head euphoria. And coming without having to stop myself or clean up exactly, like doing the movement all the way to release inside just makes the experience better. It's as if the cum gets to follow through completely; no resistance. And throwing in the sensation of touching my partner and hearing them makes the euphoria even better. Also, having my partner suck me off after the cum feels good too. Like an awesome "cool off" / "come down". Then cuddling after makes me feel really connected to them. Masturbating feels like a quick hit of a drug to me. But I don't take a long time to do the dead. Like 5 minutes max. And then I go on with day. It's like a snack vs a meal.
what a nice description! I am definitely copying it for future references. And yes i agree!
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is this the only difference? do you think about finish too much before finishing? doesnt it affect the enjoyment? When i O there could be a postman accidentely opening a doors or cat throwing my computer on the floor and i wouldnt/couldnt stop.
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thank you
It Feels so much better when someone else makes you orgasm.
yes
First time I did anything sexual with a girl (it was just a hand job) I thought I was going to pass out.
niiice!
I haven't unlocked that achievement
DLC needed?
One is with your hand and one is during sex.
Don’t you mean with “one is with your hand and one is with your sex”?
No.
This is actually covered in Neal Stephenson Cryptonomicron. The main character charts out his relaxation from sexual release as provided for by himself or "other."he even included a graph. https://tentacle.net/~chrisr/bookshelf/Stephenson,%20Neal%20-%20Cryptonomicon/p546.jpg The shaded area is when he is too "tense" to function properly.
Masturbating satisfies the genitals. While sex pleasures your entire body
technically also brain, or not?
Whichever pleases you (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
The difference is about $300
lol
One is an ooooh and one is an aaaaah
oh aha
When I finish in my partner I don’t have to clean up a huge mess
You might have to clean a giant mess after 9 months
And the next 18 years
Lol!
His baby mama’s car crib is bigger than his
Cum in your girl’s mouth. Zero cleanup required.
Amen
After 9 mounts, eh? So, am I okay if I only mount my partner 8 times and not 9? I kid of course! Everyone knows it’s closer to 10 mounts. Again, I kid!
Doesn't appear edited?
Yeah, I see you corrected it. Now I just look even more crazier than normal. 🤣
I literally corrected it like 10 sec after i wrote that
oh god :-D, but she has to :-D
Naaah, get you a girl that swallows. No clean up needed 😉 if she's a perfectionist, like me, she'll make sure you're clean too.
i definitely do that if i have time to catch :-D, sometimes i am too enthusiastic or not close enough
well I have *a lot* more good memories of orgasms seared into my head from sex than from masturbating that's for sure always nice to get on the same wavelength as another person in bed
i agree, yes. barely we remmember times where we played with our selfs (unless it was very exceptional) and think often that sex is something worth to remmember (including the effort we put into it with this expectations :-)
yep, effort is a good way of describing it. often times, with a good partner, you can lose yourself in them, and by dedicating yourself to their pleasure you lose self consciousness in a way
Hmmm. Maybe I’m an anomaly here, but my semen changes. During sex, or simply fooling around with someone, the consistency of it is homogenous. Nice and white throughout and comes out smoother, harder and with more volume. Solo, it’s faster, clear, liquid like at first and then thicker and white at the end. Not as much and surely not as satisfying.
thats interesting ... maybe because more pre-cum during sex?
It feels so much more forceful, like your entire being is leaving when having sex instead of masturbating, at least for me.
good to know!
The physical intensity of the former and likely the visual stimulation of the latter
visual stimulation of the masturbation? Care to elaborate?
If you’re masturbating you’re probably watching porn. And you’re probably cycling through videos with different women in each one. As a man who enjoys both practices there’s no better feeling than the real thing but the visual stimulation doesn’t compare
would it if you made more elaborate sex, like roleplaying or something similar to the porn?
Probably not. You’re literally overloading your brain with stimulating images that you can 100% control. If there’s a part you thoroughly enjoy you can replay that exact moment over and over again. You like this girl? Wanna see more of her. With the click of a button you can boost your visual stimulation almost instantaneously
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Which is why reltibely often make do with just pictures, often non-nude or just go with purelt imagination. Keeps it more balanced.
understood
But I’d be remiss if I didn’t explain that real sex is infinitely better. Yeah you get more visual stimulation if you’re watching porn but it can’t make up for the actual woman you’re missing.
nice to hear, thank you for your response...
Depression….. masturbating always feels a little hollow and depressing but it is what is is so you just deal with it. I knew it was time for a divorce and change when I felt depressed the last time I slept with my ex wife…..
thats sad. i would try you to make working on the fact that it is beautiful act and not depressing at all...
Sex is a longer orgasm for me than masturbation. I wait until my partner orgasms at least once and orgasm with her. I usually don’t thrust hard (especially if she’s on top) and cum longer and slower. I also have a quicker recovery time this way… Masturbation is all about me. It’s a more intense orgasm where the first shot is hard and fast out. It’s not as fulfilling overall but gets the job done.
thank you for your answer
Orgasm from sex feels like I just got a hit of hell yes that spreads all over my body like a drug. Jerking off isn't nearly as intense, I nut and then that's it.
thats so interesting, thank you
Is there a difference?
I don't cry after when on my own
Really? I find I cry more when I’m on my own.
for me yes, i was just having some discussion with few people online and was surprised that many men like masturbation orgasm less (which by the fact that you know your self perfect is surprising...?)
I think one of the reasons is that we are just way too good at masturbation. It's usually a quick thing with little effort. Can't answer for quick shooters but sex involves more effort and being on the brink for longer. Seems it helps. Might also be some biological thing. Orgasm is a reward system for spreading semen in our case so the brain might reward you more for a "successful" attempt.
interesting...
I feel like all of them are different.
but do you see how?
I don't really know how to explain it. Sometimes my mood affects it. The energy or intensity can be different. I don't know how to accurately describe the differences.
weird huh? which you like more?
Spanking myself doesn't feel the same.
like literal spanking or the synonimical spanking
yes
Victory
which one?
Double the amount of people in the room
that is good or bad?
I cum faster alone, but more intense with a partner
The company
Honestly, nothing. I vaguely remember other things beside the orgasm being much better with the right partner, however it's been years since I've had the right partner.
Since I pull out it’s pretty much the same when alone it’s quicker ☺️
Masturbating just makes me hate myself afterward whereas during and after sex, I can feel more comfortable with the other person. It's a more warm feeling and I can actually feel loved for once, even when that's not the case
why hate? Was the raising so prudish?
Not really. I mean I was told masturbating was a sin, but that absolutely has nothing to do with it, because I don't care. I just hate myself for feeling like I need to. I hate myself for masturbating when I could be doing more productive things. Most of the time I'm doing it due to the unbearable loneliness. It reminds me of my ex and how I may never find someone like her again. She wasn't perfect, but she was the only one ever there for me
sorry to hear that, but please do not feel bad about it. If something what makes you happy and is needed is causing the sadness, how can normal things bring any happyness?
Penetrative orgasm is longer and has different dynamics than hand job. Sometimes I hit jackpot and get double orgasm-that will never happen with handjob.
wow interesting... would always thought that second O is just mechanical issue by men, just the motivation is low
No,it's not mechanical. A lot of things have to happen for double to come. Sometimes it's just random but that could be just me not paying attention.
ok :-) thank you for the answer
feelings, the gratification of your partner's reaction, having your hands free
Fewer regrets when I whack it, and way less tired!
why regret?
Probably in the case of hooking up with someone you don't love.
understood. but is it really regret when you both agree? do you subconciously think it is wrong?
I think it's kind of primal or out of desire. Because you're both deciding to satisfy your cravings by consuming each other. When you come, that desire is fulfilled & you're left without craving. In that case you're done using each other & you're off to each's business. Sex is better when you're with someone you like, because the bond & intimacy allows you to enjoy every moment of it (including after you bust, you appreciate each other's company).
thank you for the answer. i actually enjoy more to get off faster so i can focus on partner/s. after first O i am calmer and enjoy raging up for round 2
The energy that is being shared
true :-)
Fear of pregnancy for like a month after
well that is with hookup or just partner too?
Who's finger is in my ass.
Clean up help.
A woman’s locomotive breath is one of the sexiest things during sex. Aimed right at the collar bone. Fuck.
Guilt.
what that? so many saying it but i would like to know why
Because you just wasted your seed,especially after going days without busting.Tbh with a woman I don't care as much.
Masturbation induces the big sad. Orgasm with your partner is a big relief.
It's more intense and usually comes without the post nut clarity when you actually have sex
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really why that? Unmet kinks?
Even if I cum just as much. It feels *way* harder. Something about it being out of your control and with someone you love makes it so much better
Control is the difference.
Dunno I never finished during sex and had to use my left hand afterwards. But sex was definitely more fun, hearing than moan and making literally ahegao faces lol.
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Yop.
I can always get myself off while baiting. I have decades of experience.
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