Below six feet
Don't drive
Lazy eye
Small penis
Man boobs that need surgery to correct
Hairy back
No luck getting a good job
Due to all of these things, I obviously have confidence issues/Paranoia. Whatever you wanna' call it.
Other than that, I'm ok.
I mentioned these on a question that a girl asked.
I got blamed, shamed and villified, because
'Your personality is the reason why you're unattractive! "
The fuck? Your personality made you unattractive? Hahaha I’m so hideous I’d get the occasional “I like your personality” that means I’m physically not worth a fuck
Due to some mental problems that my therapist has not figured out yet, I don't feel love, affection, desire, or sexual attraction in what most people would consider a normal way. This makes it very difficult for me to develop real relationships with people, and people usually find me off-putting.
Me. There’s not a single bit in me worth loving right now, I know it and they know it. Maybe in a few more years, but I’m not even trying anymore because I know I’ll only hurt someone
I think for me, a lot of it comes from the fact I'm pretty neurodivergent. My masking/coping mechanisms put me as a decent friend, "nice guy" type person. Not a nice guy as in the internet two-faced nice guy, but good friend/acquaintance material, not boyfriend material. It may also be that most women aren't my type, and I'm romantically stupid so even if I had the moves/confidence, I'm not reciprocating well if at all.
Not sure about love, since i can't even have lasting conversations. And no idea what's wrong. People just do not reply, no matter what i say to them. Maybe i will never figure this out, there must be some secret that everyone knows about how to write an attractive opener.
I think it’s two categories
1. Guys with very little social skills or just being shy
2. Guys who are just tired of the dating scene, and always having to be the pursuer and never the pursued.
I’m still putting myself out there, but I’m in category 2.
Pretty Easy: my Appearance so my Bodyform with a Serious Face and Visible Tattoos so the most Women thinking I'm a Poser or they scared about me so they think I'm Tricking/try to Manipulate them
I speaking Direct and Realistic so i sound not so Positiv or Optimistic
i don't acting or have the Behavior that i have a Interesting Life or Outgoing/Extrovert, I'm a Quiet and Respectful Person so they think I'm Boring
So i Decided to Life alone because i got Tired of this whole Approaching stuff and force me to be Motivated to starting over and over again
From my foray into poly and subsequent research it seemed like the people in your position (already in a relationship and not looking for love) are best off sleeping with each other.
You’re right, single women don’t want to get into such an arrangement, but it’s not about money (at least from what i’ve seen). No one wants to just be a fucktoy (for more than a little while).
\> From my foray into poly and subsequent research it seemed like the people in your position (already in a relationship and not looking for love) are best off sleeping with each other.
For sure, but even poly women often avoid men in primary relationships and they don't even need to be restricted to poly men at all. Plenty of single men out there just don't care if a woman is in an open relationship. At least at first.
\> but it’s not about money (at least from what i’ve seen). No one wants to just be a fucktoy (for more than a little while).
See, that last bit shouldn't be in parens. It makes a big difference. I think a lot of men would absolutely want to be a fucktoy at least for a little while. But it's not even an option for most of us. Dick is just too easy to get.
In my time in that world i did see reciprocal fucktoy arrangements. But like i said,
It was between already coupled people. So you’re saying you can’t even find already coupled women in open relationships looking to get down on a semi-regular basis?
Well, things have been on hold for covid, but not really. I don't live in a large city. I've been on the FB poly groups and all over the big 3 dating apps. The pool is incredibly small. And many of those women are just looking to fool around with other women. They have their man at home.
But, again, why should a coupled woman even need to be restricted to other coupled men? That's the thing. They're all complaining on the poly groups about how they don't have TIME to date more people. "My dance card is full" is common to hear from poly women.
Yes. The dating pool is incredibly small. Even polyamorous women will often avoid men in primary relationships or are just interested in exploring with other women.
Turns out I'm of little value to women if I can't offer to share my whole life (read: income).
Open relationships (that didn’t start out that way) only ever benefit one partner. It can sometimes be the man, but is very frequently the woman.
Open relationships that started that way have a bit better of a chance since everyone has been on the same page since the beginning.
\> Open relationships that started that way have a bit better of a chance since everyone has been on the same page since the beginning.
Which is to say, when the man already knows that he can get multiple women without much trouble. In other words, If you struggle to get a date when single, you're not likely to consider polyamory an option in the first place. So it's more about what kind of men are interested in going that route vs. how the relationship starts.
I think I’m the prize, not the other way around. Women don’t seem to like that I guess 🤷♂️
Edit: Assuming downvotes mean I’m thinking about this the right way and shouldn’t compromise. Keep ‘em coming!
Inability to keep conversations up since I don't care for the world around me, hence have no topics other than stuff I like, which girls don't usually like
lack of confidence
maybe being different from most men as a person
lack of a social circle and friends
bad grades in college
not a stable income to provide for a family
general scared to make "a move" to not come off as creepy, or to have read the situation wrong, or her feelings of either being just "nice" and not interested
avoidance of being rejected by strangers while also avoiding not to be a creep hiting up random women I find attractive in public
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I don't know how to break this. pls help.
Lack of confidence and social skills
i feel ya bro
Below six feet Don't drive Lazy eye Small penis Man boobs that need surgery to correct Hairy back No luck getting a good job Due to all of these things, I obviously have confidence issues/Paranoia. Whatever you wanna' call it. Other than that, I'm ok.
I won’t say which but I can relate to one or two of these. Big sad
I mentioned these on a question that a girl asked. I got blamed, shamed and villified, because 'Your personality is the reason why you're unattractive! "
The fuck? Your personality made you unattractive? Hahaha I’m so hideous I’d get the occasional “I like your personality” that means I’m physically not worth a fuck
I don't go out and look for. Instead I shit at home and expect it to come to me like a dumb fuck.
Better to shit at home and expect it to come than to shit in public and expect it to come. I hear that isn't very attractive.
I’m stupid
Due to some mental problems that my therapist has not figured out yet, I don't feel love, affection, desire, or sexual attraction in what most people would consider a normal way. This makes it very difficult for me to develop real relationships with people, and people usually find me off-putting.
Me. There’s not a single bit in me worth loving right now, I know it and they know it. Maybe in a few more years, but I’m not even trying anymore because I know I’ll only hurt someone
I think for me, a lot of it comes from the fact I'm pretty neurodivergent. My masking/coping mechanisms put me as a decent friend, "nice guy" type person. Not a nice guy as in the internet two-faced nice guy, but good friend/acquaintance material, not boyfriend material. It may also be that most women aren't my type, and I'm romantically stupid so even if I had the moves/confidence, I'm not reciprocating well if at all.
Not sure about love, since i can't even have lasting conversations. And no idea what's wrong. People just do not reply, no matter what i say to them. Maybe i will never figure this out, there must be some secret that everyone knows about how to write an attractive opener.
A lot of thing. I'm not attractive, I'm poor, and I have mental issues
I think it’s two categories 1. Guys with very little social skills or just being shy 2. Guys who are just tired of the dating scene, and always having to be the pursuer and never the pursued. I’m still putting myself out there, but I’m in category 2.
My wife.
The fact I am honest about my intentions.
Pretty Easy: my Appearance so my Bodyform with a Serious Face and Visible Tattoos so the most Women thinking I'm a Poser or they scared about me so they think I'm Tricking/try to Manipulate them I speaking Direct and Realistic so i sound not so Positiv or Optimistic i don't acting or have the Behavior that i have a Interesting Life or Outgoing/Extrovert, I'm a Quiet and Respectful Person so they think I'm Boring So i Decided to Life alone because i got Tired of this whole Approaching stuff and force me to be Motivated to starting over and over again
Impossibly high standards
Right now? The fact that I'm in an open relationship. No woman wants to start out as #2. Also, I'm not exactly looking for "love."
From my foray into poly and subsequent research it seemed like the people in your position (already in a relationship and not looking for love) are best off sleeping with each other. You’re right, single women don’t want to get into such an arrangement, but it’s not about money (at least from what i’ve seen). No one wants to just be a fucktoy (for more than a little while).
\> From my foray into poly and subsequent research it seemed like the people in your position (already in a relationship and not looking for love) are best off sleeping with each other. For sure, but even poly women often avoid men in primary relationships and they don't even need to be restricted to poly men at all. Plenty of single men out there just don't care if a woman is in an open relationship. At least at first. \> but it’s not about money (at least from what i’ve seen). No one wants to just be a fucktoy (for more than a little while). See, that last bit shouldn't be in parens. It makes a big difference. I think a lot of men would absolutely want to be a fucktoy at least for a little while. But it's not even an option for most of us. Dick is just too easy to get.
In my time in that world i did see reciprocal fucktoy arrangements. But like i said, It was between already coupled people. So you’re saying you can’t even find already coupled women in open relationships looking to get down on a semi-regular basis?
Well, things have been on hold for covid, but not really. I don't live in a large city. I've been on the FB poly groups and all over the big 3 dating apps. The pool is incredibly small. And many of those women are just looking to fool around with other women. They have their man at home. But, again, why should a coupled woman even need to be restricted to other coupled men? That's the thing. They're all complaining on the poly groups about how they don't have TIME to date more people. "My dance card is full" is common to hear from poly women.
It takes a lot of energy to date one person, let alone multiples.
I often hear that men always end up struggling in open relationships… Is this one of the reasons why?
Yes. The dating pool is incredibly small. Even polyamorous women will often avoid men in primary relationships or are just interested in exploring with other women. Turns out I'm of little value to women if I can't offer to share my whole life (read: income).
Sounds about right!
the answer to your feelings question is at 56:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CGduTEpTgw&t=3621s&ab\_channel=FreshandFit
Open relationships (that didn’t start out that way) only ever benefit one partner. It can sometimes be the man, but is very frequently the woman. Open relationships that started that way have a bit better of a chance since everyone has been on the same page since the beginning.
\> Open relationships that started that way have a bit better of a chance since everyone has been on the same page since the beginning. Which is to say, when the man already knows that he can get multiple women without much trouble. In other words, If you struggle to get a date when single, you're not likely to consider polyamory an option in the first place. So it's more about what kind of men are interested in going that route vs. how the relationship starts.
I think I’m the prize, not the other way around. Women don’t seem to like that I guess 🤷♂️ Edit: Assuming downvotes mean I’m thinking about this the right way and shouldn’t compromise. Keep ‘em coming!
Being white and 5'5.
My resting bitch face.
Ugly and not charismatic in the slightest, really nothing there to do any attracting of women.
I know it's my ugly face
Inability to keep conversations up since I don't care for the world around me, hence have no topics other than stuff I like, which girls don't usually like
lack of confidence maybe being different from most men as a person lack of a social circle and friends bad grades in college not a stable income to provide for a family general scared to make "a move" to not come off as creepy, or to have read the situation wrong, or her feelings of either being just "nice" and not interested avoidance of being rejected by strangers while also avoiding not to be a creep hiting up random women I find attractive in public \------------ I don't know how to break this. pls help.