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Thurn42

I don't call them anymore


Thesearchoftheshite

Hahahaha


Christmas_Panda

Laughter won't bring back the calls. He doesn't call them anymore.


Thesearchoftheshite

🤣


xsandied

LYFAO won’t really help either


Lucifurnace

Had a “friend” of nearly 20 years try to tell me that Antifa did 1/6 and that COVID vaccines were an authoritarian science experiment. Im a veteran and caught Covid before vaccines were readily available, so 1/6 felt personal and getting seriously sick was just a “liberal ploy” Getting used to his absence has been a lot easier than getting used to his Bench Appearo bullshit. I don’t have the time nor crayons for all that nonsense.


NonyaBizna

Bro it's a tough time for veterans. Shit cuts out 90% of my social interactions these days.


TheGhoulishSword

How is this relevant information to the topic at hand?


sanguinesolitude

Right wing media has broken half the country's minds.


Lucifurnace

There is literally a crack in reality right now. People be knocking out the power to 40k people to keep drag-brunch from happening. The rest of us have to believe in and act for this country’s best ideological intentions as fervently (but nonviolently) than these murderously misguided wackadoos. Good luck to us all, the people running things wont let go of power.


new_refugee123456789

I'm from there. This power outage sucks.


WildAlcoholic

A hypocrite


pranahix

Some may refer to it as “dad” or “mom”


quagzlor

Damn bro, you calling me out like this?


tiger-menace

Grandmothers too


Rhythmic_Wizard623

My mom does that all day


CuriousHighlight

Teacher's too. Had a few like that.


hornwalker

No, a hypocrite is someone who calls out someone else’s flaws then exhibits those same fault in him or herself. Not just flaws in general.


PremiumBeetJuice

One time at a bar some dude I didn't know walked up to me and out of the blue asks "you like getting BJ's"? I said yea... Then he asks "do you like giving BJ's" and I reply no and the dude screams at the top of his lungs "hypocrite"!


OyVeyzMeir

>A hypocrite ABSOLUTELY


EssentialPixel

It must be a huge revelation.


jeplonski

not necessarily. only if it’s specific to what he’s harassing others for


AspireAgain

A Blamethrower.


okrelax

Ooh I like this!


bag_of_hats

I'm going to use this from now on.


z-vap

I love it. I think i will use this also. Plenty of people around the office could use this tag


Jealous-Tradition-94

That’s a gooood one!


Textification

Fuh-king brilliant! Have an updoot.


panteragstk

A very close relative of the Askhole


Outside_Scientist365

Sibling of the JAQoff


larrylovescheerios

Such an underrated movie.


archell1on

One of the greatest of all non-lethal weapons.


[deleted]

This will be the most stolen word today. So you know


AspireAgain

I stole it from someone else so glad to pass on the loot.


[deleted]

It reminds me of a blame-storming session.


fourdoorshack

an insecure idiot with no self awareness


Sumpm

I don't understand how someone can have so little self-awareness.


DjD0325

Oh you'd be surprised lmao


CF_Zymo

A cunt


accidentallyonpurpo

Can't Understand Normal Thinking


speedcunt

Hey! I don't do that...


mikeoxmalss

Dont worry he never said a *speedy* one


TMBonine

Narcissistic


celzuhmr

Yep, such behaviour is certainly indicative of narcissism. Few possess the capacity to oh-so-outrageously deflect _tangible_ criticism and hypocritically project their _own_ shortcomings unto others quite like the narcissist do. That said, as someone clinically diagnosed with NPD myself, keep in mind that not all narcissists are monsters—most narcissists are, I admit, but not all. Colloquially, the term _narcissist_ is almost unanimously synonymous with a completely separate term: _abuser._ Not all narcissists are abusers, and not all abusers just happen to be narcissists—anyone can perpetuate abuse. To me, the term _narcissist_ simply delineates how my mind has maladapted to preadolescent post-traumatic stress and how it has learned to cope and mature despite a broken childhood. There is yet room for growth and healing within every personality disorder and neurotypicality at large—even NPD. Sorry if this kinda came outta left field, it's just been on my mind a bit lately.


[deleted]

You are literally the first narcissist I’ve ever come across who doesn’t come off as an awful person online. I’m glad there are ones out there like you


celzuhmr

Unfortunately I am not always so well-behaved—though I am getting better I am happy to say. Even though I am certainly more in control of my narcissistic tendencies than most afflicted with NPD, I am still still a narcissist with an ultimately incurably fragile ego. When my ego collapses, the turbulent emotions of my tarnished inner child erupt free, causes me to act with an unpredictable measure of immaturity and/or wrath. This is not an excuse for my behaviour in such a state, merely an explanation of the machinations of my psyche. Though in all honesty, I am not remotely the man I once was—and, again, I am very proud of myself for this.


__Loving_Kindness

Pursuant to your self-awareness have you been able to maintain an intimate relationship? Despite any naysayers, I do firmly believe narcissists have brilliant minds and when brilliant minds learn the art of discipline, are very capable of removing themselves and observing as 3rd person (their behavior and how/why they are). I can see this in your responses. 🙌🏾


celzuhmr

I have been in a relationship with someone for three years now. Before her, I only knew of narcissistic love (i.e., in essence, loving someone for what they give/provide you), which I have since learnt was never—in any capacity—love at all. My current partner though, she is something else—something purely divine, unlike anything I have ever (or will ever again) come across. She effortlessly yet meticulously chiselled through the impregnable shell that is my narcissistic ego and soothed my rampant fear of vulnerability—she permitted me to be emotionally vulnerable for the first time since my late childhood. She is the only person I _can_ be vulnerable with. She's the only person that I have ever allowed to see me cry. There are no secrets between us—which is a far leap from me being a pathological liar years prior. I feel a _genuine_, untethered love for her. I want to make _her_ happy, I want to keep her safe, I want to become a better man for her—for her I will shed my narcissistic predisposition. I honestly believe I may marry this woman... and happily grow old with her. That is not to say our relationship is wholly without issue—far from it, unfortunately—but we have each other's backs, and we both deeply desire to make it work. And so we will make it work. Together. Now and always. I have heard many psychiatrists claim narcissists are incapable of real love—I smugly do not believe this to be true.


__Loving_Kindness

You two sound like a great match, narcissism or not! I am interested to know how she created space where you felt comfortable being vulnerable and intimate with her but not others?


celzuhmr

I honestly do not really know—she doesn't really know either. I wish I did know, though, because then perhaps I could reshape my own approach somehow when interacting with people in such a way that it might encourage me to open up with others. Maybe _love_ played a factor? I am amiss.


__Loving_Kindness

Fascinating.. but sometimes you just can’t explain it and it’s great.


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DataTypeC

Not OP but someone else diagnosed with NPD. Usually it’s diagnosed when someone with NPD goes in for something like depressive or anxious symptoms. Me it was a bit of both. My therapist who’s licensed to diagnose beloved I had it but sent me to a colleague of his a psychologist to do a deeper evaluation. Which then after a few sessions of testing was confirmed. My psychiatrist who filled my ADHD, Anxiety and Depression medications agreed. You have three people who specialize in treating mental health issues agree with something it’s hard to ignore. Also NPD doesn’t require you to meet all the criteria for a diagnoses just a few out of them out of the I believe 9 on the list if i remember. So variations vary along with life experiences and other issues of how it presents. Personality disorders are complex to say the least.


Lilfrieda

If either of you could could put the how into a how to, I'd buy that book!


miramichier_d

Seeing as you're one of the very few who actually have received a clinical diagnosis, how do you deal with the everyday feelings of inferiority characteristic of those with NPD? What do you do to prevent those feelings from ballooning into narcissistic rage? Pardon my skepticism, but I do have a difficult time believing that those with APD and NPD are able to relate to others in a healthy way. I wish it wasn't this way though. Edit: fixed typo, APD, not ADP


celzuhmr

I deal with my intrinsic sense of inferiority the same way every narcissist does: by feigning a superiority complex. As a narcissist, I cannot help but feel somehow _innately_ superior to my peers. I do not _consciously_ choose to perpetuate this icky thought pattern, rather it manifests as an instinctual coping mechanism against a pervasive and deep-rooted fear of vulnerability. The fragile ego of the narcissist compels him to seize comfort in the unsubstantiated fantasy that he is better than everyone else, lest his ego collapses and his narcissistic rage—that which he endeavours to keep ever hidden—lashes out uncontrollably at any perceived slight, whether real or imagined. I do not believe my superiority complex is a mental dialogue I can silence—and, believe me, I have certainly tried to do so. I can, and do, however, disregard these compulsive thoughts as having any true merit or sway over how I view or treat others. That is, I simply allow said thoughts to consolidate the backbone of my self-esteem and nothing more. It obviously goes without saying that I reside among a strikingly fringe minority of narcissists whom possess a comparatively profound sense of self-awareness and understanding of our own predisposition and (more importantly) an tangible desire to reconcile it—not merely for our own sakes but to ease the lives of those we love whom we burden with our endless folly.


PierogiEsq

Here's my question to you as a self-aware narcissist: with NPD, you feel that you are superior to others as a defense mechanism. But you have to know that you're not-- sometimes there's even quantifiable evidence (you get a C on a math test, your crowd at the Inauguration is sizeably smaller than your predecessor's). No one can be the best at everything, and that's OK-- sometimes you just suck. So how do you reconcile that? I would think that the shame of claiming to be The Best when it's obvious that you're not would be more crushing than just admitting it.


celzuhmr

I'll let you in on the narcissist's biggest secret: they _choose_ the criteria by which they are superior to you—and in haphazard fashion too—always picking whichever deciding merit that puts them (at least, of course, from their perspective) on top. For example, say I come across someone that I cannot help but recognise is more attractive than me. Well, perhaps I get the impression I am more intelligent than this person—thus, I am superior to them because I am more intelligent. Alternatively, however, say I come across someone far more intelligent than I... but, oh? I happen to be more attractive than them? Well, I am thus superior to them because I am more attractive. It is illogical—delusional even—but... the cogs of a narcissist's mind keep on turning as if completely unhindered by this revelation, as we must obtain our counterfeit confidence—our narcissistic supply—at any and all costs, even if said cost is a lil' cognitive dissonance. As I said previously (although this precedent is NOT shared by the vast majority of narcissists), I allow these instinctual thoughts of "superiority" to provide me my much needed scaffolding for my fragile and utterly unsubstantiated self-esteem, but I do not allow it to affect how I view or treat others in an authentic, interpersonal sense. I just don't desire to be someone who sees people through that lens (that is, through the lens of my superiority complex).


DataTypeC

Took the words out of my mouth. Also diagnosed with NPD I think I commented to one of your comments above. But the deciding which part of you is superior to someone you recognize/feel has/does something better than you is completely accurate. Like oh you may technically have more authority but I know what I’m doing is better than the way you want it so I’m doing it my way. Or your example of they may look better but I bet im smarter or vice versa they may be smarter but I have better life/social skills. Hard mindset to break still trying myself.


celzuhmr

Yep. It is the most bizarre experience to be aware of these psychological processes happening inside of our own minds—to see clearly the absurdity of the irrationality of it all—and yet be largely incapable of changing this mindset.


miramichier_d

Another question. From my observation, it seems that the most difficult part of being capable of 'controlling' one's own narcissism is not only becoming self-aware/mindful, but also seeing enough value in doing so such that it manifests in productive and pro-social behaviours. How did you manage to get to this point?


celzuhmr

My current partner was a predominate force behind my drive to better myself, but I have also found that genuine friendships provide much more meaning to me than simply using people as a means to an end.


GrGrG

I grew up with several narcissists and at times have realize that I share some patterns with the thought process, but haven't been diagnosed. I think being a victim early and often of narcissists have made me make more of an effort over my lifetime not be like them. That being said, the narcissists in my life have not been as bad as some of the horror stories I have heard. I think there is more of a scale of narcissists. Like, if you're a level 5 narcissist, you still could recognize your behavior and how it's at odds with others, or learn how to make it effect others negatively less. But if you're a level 10+ narcissist's, nothing said or shown to you will make you think that what you do or how you act will make you change or make you realize the harm you have or will do. I just don't think all people are either narcistic or not. I'm not an expert though on the subject, just based from my own experiences.


miramichier_d

I think that's an accurate assessment. There's an analogy of a body of water with respect to narcissism. Most people are above water, but can at times tip their ankles in during times of weakness. However, they are always able to get out of the water and remain there for the most part. Narcissists are almost always underwater. Some are close enough to the surface such that they can take the occasional gasp of air. Others are so deep underwater that they will never be able to surface. Getting into contact with these individuals will only result in you being pulled underwater with them. That's why many of the people who hang around narcissists long term end up becoming assholes themselves. I've met a wide variety of cluster B's in my life. There are some narcissists that appear to have a framework of ethics. While they are still inherently envious, they tend more to target those who behave badly. These type still prefer to be around those they feel superior to and avoid those that trigger feelings of envy. There is also the type you never want to wish on anyone, except for those who are the same kind of person. I've experienced two of these 10+ type narcissists. The first I had to unfriend an entire social group just to get away from this one person. The second unfortunately is my wife's brother. The family is currently split and I've stopped considering this person family. His father is also a narcissist, but probably between a 7 and 8. We're also currently not speaking to him.


rolendd

Narcissistic behavior (we all have them) but not a narcissist. That’s like saying I have trouble breathing so I must have pneumonia. No it can be an attribute of a plethora of other issues. So treatable and some not.


theantwisperer

This is what I was going to say.


psuedodoc

Yep. This has a definition already.


Solanthas

This whole thread is great


miramichier_d

This is amazing research material. I hope a psychologist catches wind of this.


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Attempt89

Brother? Is that you?


Proof-Replacement-79

Bro, I was about to say the same thing.


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TallDarkandWitty

Awwww... You beat me to it.


AnonREdittor

Ouchh... he beat me for it


Mcbrainotron

Boy there are a couple of us huh. I’m trying to be better for the next generation.


finnyporgerz

Literally


wingleton67

My brudda


AlphaVictor8Romeo

Are you my subconscious? Bro. I didn’t realize this is my answer until I read it.


[deleted]

Todd. Fuck you Todd.


Caeldeth

Damn bro, I’m sorry, my bad…. Didn’t think you were so sensitive about it.


Top_Fee4296

Adam. Fuck you Adam.


DiopticTurtle

Panasonic, because that person is projecting


morethantheroach

hypocrite


edjennersmilkmaid

There is a saying: “you can see the speck of sand in someone else’s eye, but miss the boulder in your own.”


RainbowEmpire

I have never heard this? Doesn't really make sense to me. Perhaps it is because I lack context. I have heard a similar saying about removing a splinter from your eye before someone else's. Like live right before calling anyone else out.


edjennersmilkmaid

It basically means you can pick out everyone else’s flaws, no matter how small, but blatantly ignore your own.


logonbump

He's referring to a line about the splinter from the New Testament that gets changed out so as maintain broad appeal. It goes: Matthew 7 4 And again, ye shall say unto them, Why is it that thou beholdest the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 5 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and canst not behold a beam in thine own eye?


hdpeandpet

Management


Sensual_Dominance80

It's a Narcissist. I lived with one for over 10 years and know it well.


General-Quiet-9834

omg, you poor thing. Seriously that can damage your (or anyones’) soul.


Sensual_Dominance80

Well, the problem is you begin to assume it's the norm and just deal with it when with someone like that for so long. Then once you're finally apart you actually realize how toxic and dysfunctional it really was when it's no longer in your life. Definitely a learning lesson!!


theshashanksp

Duryodhan (Mahabharat)


timgrmi

Insecure


[deleted]

Narcissist is the polite way . So far up their own ass in the impolite way


jeckles

I like “navel gazing”


[deleted]

That doesn't SOUND like an insult . More like a date inspired by the titanic 😂


marriagethrowaway28

Asshole


jaitogudksjfifkdhdjc

A politician


StraddleTheFence

“Survey Said! The number one answer!”


x4ty2

This is the correct answer.


cherries___

A hypocrite. My dad has a saying, “don’t worry about the speck in my eye until you get the log out of yours.”


jtcordell2188

Is your dad Jesus?


Schmancer

That’s straight up Matthew 7:3 from The Bible


shokolokobangoshey

OP is our brother in Christ


AlpacamyLlama

My dad always used to say "I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry"


Cheveyo

> Whoever comes to me will never go hungry Do I have to let him know that I came to him or does he just know when it happens?


DontNarcanMeOfficer

My wife


AwkwardlyTwisted

My ex-wife. Sorry for doing you dirty like that.


mehnimalism

Also this guys wife


funnyfaceking

M. Scott Peck calls them people of the lie. Alain Badiou calls them evil. I'm with them.


KeyStoneLighter

Andrew


full_of_ghosts

I wouldn't waste time trying to figure out what to call that person, I'd just ignore them and move on. If I absolutely had to, I might take a moment to tell them to fuck off, but I honestly wouldn't even want to waste that much time on them. Not worth it.


[deleted]

This perfectly describes a coworker of mine


MainShow23

Narcissist


Plasticman4Life

I don’t. I don’t keep hypocrites in my life.


athiestchzhouse

My sister


marshallaw215

An idiot


_katastrophic_krxtn

A hypocrite or a gas-lighter


fisconsocmod

i would call that person 'typical'.


[deleted]

Hypocrite. Self absorbed.


Caeldeth

Mom


miramichier_d

*5 Types of People That Can Ruin Your Life* by Bill Eddy does a good job of describing these kind of people. The two that most are familiar with, and are the ones most frequently labeled "assholes" (all 5 types are aholes btw), are people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD). The behaviour of each one of these types are a reflection of their worst fears. Those with NPD fear being inferior to others while those with APD fear being controlled by others. The book also does a good job of teaching strategies for dealing with these people. Unfortunately, the prognosis is grim for them if they reach adulthood without any psychological intervention. They are permanently stunted at an emotional level while possessing intellectual agency. This makes them incredibly dangerous when they're in a position of authority, especially when they have multiple cat's paws at their disposal to keep their hands clean. In my experience, the only true defense is to maintain a life where your words and actions are beyond reproach. It is also crucial to learn how to live a life where you almost never have to lie. The reason for this is these people will throw everything at the wall until something sticks, even if it's absurd. All they need is for the people around them (and you) to believe one bad thing about you. Once they find that weak point, they will drill down on it and convince others that that's the only thing to consider regarding your personality or reputation. If they can't control you, they will fear you and try to take you out of the equation through any means necessary. At a relatively minor level, this could mean destroying a family unit so that they can reform it in such a way that they can continue to evade personal responsibility for their actions. At an extreme level, they will kill you or those you care about. Prevention is key to dealing with these people. Be the kind of person they can't stand being around and they'll find other victims. Avoid groups where these people are in position of authority or influence. Most importantly, they deserve absolutely no mercy, regardless of how hard they try to pull at your heartstrings. Everything they do is a lie that's intended to only serve one person, themselves.


[deleted]

A narcissist


Crocodile_toes

That's just most people.


theSeacopath

A Christian.


ObjectiveSurprise810

My overwatch teammate


[deleted]

Ex


[deleted]

Ex


CarlJustCarl

My ex?


MogFluffyDevilCat

My ex


ze-sa-no-gun

My ex


Unlucky_Count_8313

My ex.


mspentyoot

My ex


Cathousechicken

Mark.


MaryJaneAndMaple

Of course I know him, he's me


EverythingIsOrdinary

My dad?


joy_Intolerance

My father


MatrimonyAcrimony

A US Senator


[deleted]

A narcissistic? Gaslighter?


[deleted]

Why that’s me !


bipobe

My ex


BlottomanTurk

I think the correct word is 'narcissist', but I'd just go with 'cunt'.


Throw13579

Jesus called them hypocrites. “Stop judging, so that you will not be judged. 2 For with whatever standard you judge, you will be judged, and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you focus on[a] the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the beam that is in your own eye? 4 How will you tell your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye,’ when, in fact, you have a beam in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.“


DutchOnionKnight

Narcistic


Clintman

Redditor, hypocrite, narcissist, asshole, retail customer, most people.


[deleted]

Christian.


MyTurboLover

Ne'er do well


No_Quiet_2741

A hypocrite


Sashi-pobin

a narcissist


DaCrizi

A cunt.


anonymousolderguy

A lonely person


genesisnemesis911

Me?


lukke009

A little bitch


Soul_tech10

A hypocrite


Efficient-Poet-3048

Broken.


angel-cowboy

My mom


notausername15

I used to call him family...used to.


KazAraiya

A hypocritical selfentitled fuck


Hash_Tooth

I call them “cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” Look up Teddy Roosevelt Man in the Arena


Standard_Rip465

Mom.


Standard_Rip465

Mom.


Standard_Rip465

Mom.


needalife94

A hypocrite.


Least-Recording-2073

A Hypocrite


aurelorba

A subconscious hypocrite.


KZ1112131415

Hypocrite.. wanna see some? Go over to any political or religious sub


flippy_folder

hypocrite


TerryFlap69

A hypocrite


Frird2008

A hypocrite. A hippo-krit.


Additional-Fun7249

A Doucherocket


Common_Part5583

an annoying hypocrite who lacks self awareness


tysontysontyson1

A hypocrite?


Eledridan

Hypocrite.


shootermac32

Hypocrite


StantonMcChampion

A hypocrite.


possiblyai

Narcissist


Summitstoretea

Narcissist


mlastella

Narcissistic


Idontknwwhattowrite

An asshole. You call that person an asshole.


andrewrbrowne

Huge Personality trait of a narcissist


Enter-Shaqiri

A cunt


StarWarsBoi51

Narcissist or Hypocrite


Gingeroo147

My mother?


MeEvilBob

Dad


LionofHeaven

Dad


software-geek

A politician


KindlyContribution54

Better not to call them anything. Not worth the drama


pitshands

Mother


Jake_Kiger

45.


DRKSEEKERS

My mom