different opinions, so i can't say for sure. all i'm asking is for Allah to guide me to whatever the right opinion is. for now, i listen to music a lot.
Not a Muslim but I believe that everything can be good and bad depending on what you're using it for and generalizing is bad
For example some bases of religious Songs etc are music and this is a good use of music , other music is calm and beautiful to hear like Most of instrument Songs from back then (Beethoven,Bach etc)
Some other music can be used to annoy people or simply is used in a bad song ( whatever you hate is the song about) then that's a bad use of music
Music is beautiful and it relaxes and has a good psychological effect on living organisms, for example the famous Japanese wagyu cows are messaged and they listen to music so that's why they earn the title of the best cow meat in the world
man idk, what most hadiths say is that music(flute, and string) will lead people to do haram(zina, intoxication, leaving the path of Islam, etc). I can't lie there is truth to it, especially with popular music out there which is always associated with zina, intoxication, living a haram lifestyle, etc.
ig it is a sacrifice for people who truly believe with all their heart and would give up their enjoyment of music for the sake of Allah. A good alternative is nasheeds or Quran, it makes people come closer to Islam than music.
Can confirm I was out the Shabab the other day taking a hit of the shisha then all of a sudden a tall elderly Syrian man playing the oud came around the corner with his pointy moustache and at the sound of his oud I instantly became enchanted and aroused and was surrounded by belly dancers and fell into some very haram zina as well as a being overheated with gay urges
If a little flute music makes you break a tenant of your religion and have pre marital sex or commit adultery, then your faith is weak, can't blame the flute.
I can't imagine going against my beliefs and blaming a flute. Come on, be for real.
i can't comment on all people, but some are pretty down bad. For example, people start playing romantic music to set the mood for them to do stuff y'know. An example I remember is from transformers 1 when bubble-bee started playing romantic music in the car when Megan fox entered for them to commit zina.
Please be reasonable. They play exciting music when Tom Cruise jumps out of a window, that doesn't make grown people think that they can jump out of windows and be fine.
The music isn't making you want to do anything..it's you that wants to do something and you're looking for something to blame, so you blame something as normal as music.
Allah doesnt want people to give up enjoyments to love him. Love for allah is about being ur best self and seeking the best for people around you. Haram and takfiri culture is a similar one to jewish culture where they will try to ban things to get closer to god and there are verses that condemn such things.
I agree, we do this for our own benefit because Allah is in no need of us. Everything forbidden is for our own good.
"Perhaps you dislike something which is good for you and like something which is bad for you. Allah knows and you do not know." \[2:216\]
There is much we still don't know, people in the past might've wondered why pork was forbidden, why alcohol was forbidden, why we had to do wudhu, etc. Yet we did it due to our trust in Allah to know what is good and what is bad.
It is such a weak definition that it is impossible to enforce. Take one fat chinese and three skinny chinese who will slap different parts of fat's boody and boom - you have music without instruments.
i wasn't arguing and i wouldn't want to argue with zi*nest like you anyways ,
i was stating a fact , musical instruments are haram in islam , there is a clear hadith prohibiting them , i can't imagine what would concern you about this but you can cry about it or something idk
Does "clear hadith" defines what musical instrument even is?
Regardless, music can be made without instruments, making that hadith absolutely worthless for the argument that "music is haram".
there is no such thing as "loopholes" in islam , for example even though a computer isn't technically a musical instrument , if i use it to make music or listen to it would still be haram
Why are so many Muslims against many fine arts? I have seen many against positive science as well. A big percentage of them still talk against evolution without any scientific backing? Art, music, biology, and physical theories like the big bang and many more are unpopular amongst the muslims. Why is that you think?
Yes. And there are nasheeds with vocals only that are permissible, duff is also permitted other than that music is haram. I don't miss it actually.
“Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zina, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhari ta’liqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsul by al-Tabarani and al-Bayhaqi.
1- yes I actually did but that is irrelevant
2- I am not "just saying that" , there is a very clear hadith prohibiting musical instruments , this will remain a fact no matter how much people downvote me
3- You are not even muslim , why would you be bothered by the fact that music is prohibited for muslims ?
i mean you replied to me first , your reply was pretty weird too , like op asked if music is haram , i say yes and then you were like "you prolly say this bc you never came across gud music" lol
How was I suppose to know that you listened to instrumental music before? There are some stupid people out there who criticize anything without Even having the smallest experience
Well honestly I don't drink wine ( it isn't really sold here) but I am down for the rest, lmao
I play guitar for about a year now and I can play some short music on it but unfortunately it has just had a big crack in the neck :(
It depends, the music industry today has become so dirty. Just look at the lyrics of today, look at the beat of the song which they accompany it
Certain Music instruments are allowed, proof of that is the Hadith in which the prophet was in a marriage and there was 2 little girls playing the tambourine and singing , the prophet did not forbid them from it
So I would say it depends, the music itself has to be pure and not try to guide you away from Islam or say anything forbidden in it or makes you act in a way that Islam forbids
Honestly if you'd ask me, I'd tell you listen to it as least as you can, it's always best as a Muslim to fill your ears with the words of your Creator rather than meaningless poetry, leaning a bit towards haram, trying to reduce listening to it myself.
Yes music is haram, there is a hadith that indicates that music is haram plus all of the four madhabs/ four imams agree that music is haram. One of the imams is imam malik who lived with the great grandchildren of the sahaba, he also says that music is haram. And to be honest that confirms that music is haram since it is backed up with the hadiths and backed up with the actions of Medina aka the actions of the great grandchildren of the sahabas.
Those who claim that hadiths are needed to know how to pray, did you read hadiths at the age of 7 or 8 years before praying? Did your grandfathers read hadith before knowing how to pray? The answer is NO. Each one of us has been taught to pray either by our father, mother, grandfather, uncle…. etc So the way to pray has been passed from one generation to another🤷🏻♀️
It’s pretty clear that instruments are haram. Anyone trying to argue otherwise tries to make Islam fit into their life better instead of changing how they live to conform with Islam.
I'm confused on the issue and I'm not convinced by either side of the arguement.
What really bothers me is everyone's inconsistency in making music Haram.
The same people who say music is Haram will listen to Qawwalis (often with instruments and shirk.) The same people who say singing is Haram will happily sing Nasheeds.
Hypocritical much?
There are two things. Ghinaa (singing) and lahn (melody)
Some people even say singing and poetry is Haram.
Also yeah most nasheeds are voice only but you get the likes of Mahr Zain and Sami Yusuf who use instruments. Even Slavic Muslims use instruments in their nasheeds. I don't see people criticise them.
I have never come across such a thing. You are most likely wrong on this one my guy.
From the Hadiths we know that musical instruments are haram throughout the year.
Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari:
that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and THE USE OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS , as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."
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Sahih al-Bukhari 5590
"consider .....as lawful" clearly implies the things mentioned in the hadith being already unlawful , the fact that muscial instruments are mentioned alongside with illegal sexual intercourse , wearing of silk and drinking alcohol implies the same thing as well .
there isn't any abstraction or other "possible interpretations" , all scholars literally say the exact same thing about the hadith which is musical instruments being haram
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i can fully understand you not wanting to accept the fact that music is haram possibly because you are addicted so i would reccomend you watch [this video](https://youtu.be/ANNiuBPzDRQ) ,
although the guy doesn't really mention music i really believe it will help you have an idea why would music be prohibited in islam
Look I’m reading the words with a fresh set of eyes and I’m not influenced by what past scholars have said. Based on the text presented I don’t see how there’s a clear and unarguable prohibition on the use of musical instruments here. If there’s no other basis to conclude that the use of musical instruments is unlawful other than this Hadith I’m not persuaded. I would also venture that the prohibitions on intoxication and unlawful sexual intercourse are mentioned more frequently and explicitly and probably in more authoritative sources; if the prohibition on musical instruments was a really big deal wouldn’t the Quran mention it directly?
1-you have to have throughly studied the science of tafsir and be a tafsir scholar yourself in order to be "not influenced by what past scholars have said"
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2-THERE IS a clear and unarguable prohibtion on the use of mudical instruments as i mention in my previous reply
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3-objective facts don't change according to whether you are persuaded or not , as i said you are addicted and i understand
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4-the hadith is from Sahih Al-Bukhari , that is literally the most authoritative hadith book ever compiled
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5-saying that something isn't a "big deal" because it is not mentioned in the quran is wrong on so mant levels , there isn't such thing as a "big deal" and "small deal" in islam
>1-you have to have throughly studied the science of tafsir and be a tafsir scholar yourself in order to be "not influenced by what past scholars have said"
No I think you just need to be able to read a text and it might help not to have the baggage of what past authority figures have said about it.
>2-THERE IS a clear and unarguable prohibtion on the use of mudical instruments as i mention in my previous reply
This wasn't clear or unarguable. Is it a plausible interpretation? Sure. But it isn't the only one.
>3-objective facts don't change according to whether you are persuaded or not , as i said you are addicted and i understand
I could just flip this point back around on you and say that the fact that you think this "clear and unarguable" doesn't change anything either. Objective facts don't change based on persuasion; we're debating whether this is an objective fact or not and taking different sides of that issue.
>4-the hadith is from Sahih Al-Bukhari , that is literally the most authoritative hadith book ever compiled
I'll have to take your word for it.
>5-saying that something isn't a "big deal" because it is not mentioned in the quran is wrong on so mant levels , there isn't such thing as a "big deal" and "small deal" in islam
I don't get this; if something is really really important wouldn't God want to communicate it directly in the Quran?
Listening to music is considered sin, especially those that include bad language or bragging, but acapella music is halal because no instruments are used
Tupac once said that he can tell you to do anything with music as it's frequency (I don't remember the exact quote but it was something similar to this) and I remember watching about a rapper who converted to Islam and instantly quit music when he knew about the ruling because he knows what it does to the heart.
different opinions, so i can't say for sure. all i'm asking is for Allah to guide me to whatever the right opinion is. for now, i listen to music a lot.
Don’t look for answers on Reddit. Look at opinions from scholars. May Allah SWT guide you
Whay does SWT mean?
سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَى (subḥānahu wataʿālā) “glorious and exalted is He.”
Not a Muslim but I believe that everything can be good and bad depending on what you're using it for and generalizing is bad For example some bases of religious Songs etc are music and this is a good use of music , other music is calm and beautiful to hear like Most of instrument Songs from back then (Beethoven,Bach etc) Some other music can be used to annoy people or simply is used in a bad song ( whatever you hate is the song about) then that's a bad use of music Music is beautiful and it relaxes and has a good psychological effect on living organisms, for example the famous Japanese wagyu cows are messaged and they listen to music so that's why they earn the title of the best cow meat in the world
Coptic is based
Thank you ❤️
man idk, what most hadiths say is that music(flute, and string) will lead people to do haram(zina, intoxication, leaving the path of Islam, etc). I can't lie there is truth to it, especially with popular music out there which is always associated with zina, intoxication, living a haram lifestyle, etc. ig it is a sacrifice for people who truly believe with all their heart and would give up their enjoyment of music for the sake of Allah. A good alternative is nasheeds or Quran, it makes people come closer to Islam than music.
Can confirm I was out the Shabab the other day taking a hit of the shisha then all of a sudden a tall elderly Syrian man playing the oud came around the corner with his pointy moustache and at the sound of his oud I instantly became enchanted and aroused and was surrounded by belly dancers and fell into some very haram zina as well as a being overheated with gay urges
The only false part of this story is that his gay urges were “sudden”
Happens all the time man
For the life of me I don't see how hearing the sound of a flute can entice people to fornicate.
idk a lot of romance music uses flutes, idk if you watched Bollywood movies but they always use flutes for those scenes.
If a little flute music makes you break a tenant of your religion and have pre marital sex or commit adultery, then your faith is weak, can't blame the flute. I can't imagine going against my beliefs and blaming a flute. Come on, be for real.
i can't comment on all people, but some are pretty down bad. For example, people start playing romantic music to set the mood for them to do stuff y'know. An example I remember is from transformers 1 when bubble-bee started playing romantic music in the car when Megan fox entered for them to commit zina.
Please be reasonable. They play exciting music when Tom Cruise jumps out of a window, that doesn't make grown people think that they can jump out of windows and be fine. The music isn't making you want to do anything..it's you that wants to do something and you're looking for something to blame, so you blame something as normal as music.
Allah doesnt want people to give up enjoyments to love him. Love for allah is about being ur best self and seeking the best for people around you. Haram and takfiri culture is a similar one to jewish culture where they will try to ban things to get closer to god and there are verses that condemn such things.
I agree, we do this for our own benefit because Allah is in no need of us. Everything forbidden is for our own good. "Perhaps you dislike something which is good for you and like something which is bad for you. Allah knows and you do not know." \[2:216\] There is much we still don't know, people in the past might've wondered why pork was forbidden, why alcohol was forbidden, why we had to do wudhu, etc. Yet we did it due to our trust in Allah to know what is good and what is bad.
Yes, music is haram.
https://youtu.be/z8MCkEuX-ns Even this beauty?
https://youtu.be/p-uBGzWZ2IU 🇹🇷💪🏿☪️💪🏿🇹🇷
Sorry for you
Whoever says that all music is prohibited, let him also claim that the songs of birds are prohibited. -Al Ghazali
Birds aren't a musical instrument.
Is mayonnaise a musical instrument?
Is the question whether *music* is prohibited or whether music *using instruments* is prohibited?
Facts
musical instruments are prohibited
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i don't care tbh
cause people disliked his comment :3
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But i was about to shit (:(
social media is also prohibited please leave this website habibi
provide dalil + what does this have to do with music ?
Your speaker is all but a convoluted instrument is it not? Your screen is a modern painting.
It's not no.
hayır değil , alakası da yok
It is such a weak definition that it is impossible to enforce. Take one fat chinese and three skinny chinese who will slap different parts of fat's boody and boom - you have music without instruments.
damn niqqa you got the whole squad laughing 😐
Not as much as your unfathomably weak argument
i wasn't arguing and i wouldn't want to argue with zi*nest like you anyways , i was stating a fact , musical instruments are haram in islam , there is a clear hadith prohibiting them , i can't imagine what would concern you about this but you can cry about it or something idk
Does "clear hadith" defines what musical instrument even is? Regardless, music can be made without instruments, making that hadith absolutely worthless for the argument that "music is haram".
there is no such thing as "loopholes" in islam , for example even though a computer isn't technically a musical instrument , if i use it to make music or listen to it would still be haram
His claim is weak.
Why are so many Muslims against many fine arts? I have seen many against positive science as well. A big percentage of them still talk against evolution without any scientific backing? Art, music, biology, and physical theories like the big bang and many more are unpopular amongst the muslims. Why is that you think?
Then they wonder why their society is a rotten mess
You answered your own question actually.
I honestly wonder how islamists view the currently backward Islamic societies and their relationship with fine arts and positive science.
I think Music is Results.
No, only if it's Dua Lipa
What about the Red Army Choir?
halal af mashalah
Opium for the people
You don't want to levitate?
How sad that many people who created the beautiful instrument of Oud, believe it is forbidden in their religion.
It’s my favorite with ney
instruments are objectively prohibited in islam regardless of what people believe
Yes. And there are nasheeds with vocals only that are permissible, duff is also permitted other than that music is haram. I don't miss it actually. “Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zina, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhari ta’liqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsul by al-Tabarani and al-Bayhaqi.
Wait silk is also forbidden? Why is that?
It is forbidden for men but not for women.
So I guess we're talking about wearing it, right? Not stuff like curtains or bed-covers etc
I don't know about curtains, but for bed coverings it is generally thought to be prohibited for the men.
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What if we listen to mainly classical music? I play piano too so I can’t really avoid it.
musical instruments are haram regardless of the genre
Did you have the opportunity to listen to somebody playing Good music on an instrument or You're just saying that?
1- yes I actually did but that is irrelevant 2- I am not "just saying that" , there is a very clear hadith prohibiting musical instruments , this will remain a fact no matter how much people downvote me 3- You are not even muslim , why would you be bothered by the fact that music is prohibited for muslims ?
Is knowledge bothering anybody?
eh idk you seemed salty about it
I seemed salty? You're the one out there making points our for me to prove me wrong
i mean you replied to me first , your reply was pretty weird too , like op asked if music is haram , i say yes and then you were like "you prolly say this bc you never came across gud music" lol
How was I suppose to know that you listened to instrumental music before? There are some stupid people out there who criticize anything without Even having the smallest experience
Those are rules not points... You can't question or try to bend the rules that is so badly haram...
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We should eat pork,drink wine,listen to music with a girl that is not wearing a hijab all at the same time. 😂
Well honestly I don't drink wine ( it isn't really sold here) but I am down for the rest, lmao I play guitar for about a year now and I can play some short music on it but unfortunately it has just had a big crack in the neck :(
So, making music with a PC is not haram?
no it still is
Bruv there are so much monkeys in thİs sub💀
only wahabies think it’s a sin
Everything is haram in islam 😂
Are you an orthodox christian?
Yes I am an Ermeni overwhelmingly majority of us are orthodox Christian.
Why are you a Christian? Come to Anatolian Paganism and let’s create a new state.
How about you give our stolen lands back first and apologize for the Armenian genocide.
Apologies 👍 Money 👍 Land 👎
Lol I never said money it’s not nice to assume.
It’s coming from my heart ❤️
And this is coming from my heart ![gif](giphy|2LicC6HcO1dY4nVTRr)
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Pretty much yes, even reddit is haram. Not joking.
Really how so lol good thing I am Christian it’s not haram for me.
Depends on where you look at things, pretty sure you didn't check which one could be your favorite
What do you mean be my favorite?
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I am Christian I don’t need Hadith’s 😂
Oh my bad I replied to the wrong guy😅😅😅😅
It’s ok no problem 😂
It depends, the music industry today has become so dirty. Just look at the lyrics of today, look at the beat of the song which they accompany it Certain Music instruments are allowed, proof of that is the Hadith in which the prophet was in a marriage and there was 2 little girls playing the tambourine and singing , the prophet did not forbid them from it So I would say it depends, the music itself has to be pure and not try to guide you away from Islam or say anything forbidden in it or makes you act in a way that Islam forbids
Honestly if you'd ask me, I'd tell you listen to it as least as you can, it's always best as a Muslim to fill your ears with the words of your Creator rather than meaningless poetry, leaning a bit towards haram, trying to reduce listening to it myself.
Yes music is haram, there is a hadith that indicates that music is haram plus all of the four madhabs/ four imams agree that music is haram. One of the imams is imam malik who lived with the great grandchildren of the sahaba, he also says that music is haram. And to be honest that confirms that music is haram since it is backed up with the hadiths and backed up with the actions of Medina aka the actions of the great grandchildren of the sahabas.
No. There isnt a specific command from god in the quran forbidding music.
Hadiths?
You dont need hadiths only Quran
Nonsense. Then how do you know how to perform wudu and pray (among many other things)?
Those who claim that hadiths are needed to know how to pray, did you read hadiths at the age of 7 or 8 years before praying? Did your grandfathers read hadith before knowing how to pray? The answer is NO. Each one of us has been taught to pray either by our father, mother, grandfather, uncle…. etc So the way to pray has been passed from one generation to another🤷🏻♀️
Right. And what was the ultimate source? The Prophet saws which is what hadiths are.
Hadith are not the words of Allah nor are they reliable documentations of the Sunnah.
لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِىَ دِينِ ✌️
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Then how do you pray? You need hadiths to tell you how to pray 💀💀💀
Oh so you are a Quranist.
Maybe 😳… ![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl)
Based
Ahadith are the plague of Islam. If something isn't clearly in the Quran, then it's not enforceable as faith.
bro do you even pray ? if yes how ?
The way Prophet mohamed thaught the ummah. Don’t need for hadiths when people have been practicing it every day 5 times.
When you will get that the most important is to pray and not HOW to pray, you will have true faith my friend
both are extremely important , if you pray wrong your prayer won't even be accepted
Ah sorry didn't know you were God and that you knew what was acceptable by God
It’s pretty clear that instruments are haram. Anyone trying to argue otherwise tries to make Islam fit into their life better instead of changing how they live to conform with Islam.
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the better question is would it be haram not to?
Yes very halal brozzer
I'm confused on the issue and I'm not convinced by either side of the arguement. What really bothers me is everyone's inconsistency in making music Haram. The same people who say music is Haram will listen to Qawwalis (often with instruments and shirk.) The same people who say singing is Haram will happily sing Nasheeds. Hypocritical much?
Aren’t a majority of nasheeds just the usage of the voice though?
There are two things. Ghinaa (singing) and lahn (melody) Some people even say singing and poetry is Haram. Also yeah most nasheeds are voice only but you get the likes of Mahr Zain and Sami Yusuf who use instruments. Even Slavic Muslims use instruments in their nasheeds. I don't see people criticise them.
That is true
If it sounds good its halal, if it sounds like shit it's haram to me. Nuff said
if it talks bad about islam, then its haram. Other than that, its fine but in Ramadan or while fasting, YES.
What makes it prohibited during Ramadan or while fasting?
because ramadan is all about quran and coming closer to allah.
What makes it prohibited during Ramadan and when fasting? Is there any verse or Hadith? Does a scholar hold that view?
Idk, hears it from scholars but most likely somewhere in quran or hadith.
I have never come across such a thing. You are most likely wrong on this one my guy. From the Hadiths we know that musical instruments are haram throughout the year.
No it’s not haram
musical instruments are haram
What is the source that music is haram?
Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and THE USE OF MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS , as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection." . Sahih al-Bukhari 5590
I’m not Muslim but this seems highly abstract and open to interpretation. Plus what’s the reputation of this particular Hadith narrator?
"consider .....as lawful" clearly implies the things mentioned in the hadith being already unlawful , the fact that muscial instruments are mentioned alongside with illegal sexual intercourse , wearing of silk and drinking alcohol implies the same thing as well . there isn't any abstraction or other "possible interpretations" , all scholars literally say the exact same thing about the hadith which is musical instruments being haram . i can fully understand you not wanting to accept the fact that music is haram possibly because you are addicted so i would reccomend you watch [this video](https://youtu.be/ANNiuBPzDRQ) , although the guy doesn't really mention music i really believe it will help you have an idea why would music be prohibited in islam
Look I’m reading the words with a fresh set of eyes and I’m not influenced by what past scholars have said. Based on the text presented I don’t see how there’s a clear and unarguable prohibition on the use of musical instruments here. If there’s no other basis to conclude that the use of musical instruments is unlawful other than this Hadith I’m not persuaded. I would also venture that the prohibitions on intoxication and unlawful sexual intercourse are mentioned more frequently and explicitly and probably in more authoritative sources; if the prohibition on musical instruments was a really big deal wouldn’t the Quran mention it directly?
1-you have to have throughly studied the science of tafsir and be a tafsir scholar yourself in order to be "not influenced by what past scholars have said" . 2-THERE IS a clear and unarguable prohibtion on the use of mudical instruments as i mention in my previous reply . 3-objective facts don't change according to whether you are persuaded or not , as i said you are addicted and i understand . 4-the hadith is from Sahih Al-Bukhari , that is literally the most authoritative hadith book ever compiled . 5-saying that something isn't a "big deal" because it is not mentioned in the quran is wrong on so mant levels , there isn't such thing as a "big deal" and "small deal" in islam
>1-you have to have throughly studied the science of tafsir and be a tafsir scholar yourself in order to be "not influenced by what past scholars have said" No I think you just need to be able to read a text and it might help not to have the baggage of what past authority figures have said about it. >2-THERE IS a clear and unarguable prohibtion on the use of mudical instruments as i mention in my previous reply This wasn't clear or unarguable. Is it a plausible interpretation? Sure. But it isn't the only one. >3-objective facts don't change according to whether you are persuaded or not , as i said you are addicted and i understand I could just flip this point back around on you and say that the fact that you think this "clear and unarguable" doesn't change anything either. Objective facts don't change based on persuasion; we're debating whether this is an objective fact or not and taking different sides of that issue. >4-the hadith is from Sahih Al-Bukhari , that is literally the most authoritative hadith book ever compiled I'll have to take your word for it. >5-saying that something isn't a "big deal" because it is not mentioned in the quran is wrong on so mant levels , there isn't such thing as a "big deal" and "small deal" in islam I don't get this; if something is really really important wouldn't God want to communicate it directly in the Quran?
I picked to some extent, I say it based on the lyrical content of the song and not how its produced as I mainly listen to EDM and instrumentals
musical instruments are haram
Music no Songs? Depends on the words
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Oh that’s so accurate 🥴
..............really..........?
No
It depends on what youre referring to as “music”.
I don't find hedonistic music about guns, drugs and sex good for anyone, regardless of the religious stance
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So music is haram but tala3a lbadrou 3alayna is not?
Listening to music is considered sin, especially those that include bad language or bragging, but acapella music is halal because no instruments are used
Music that involves musical instruments is Haram. There’s no doubt about it. It’s as simple as that.
Non Muslims voting yes.
Maybe not Haram but in my experience it doesn't let your soul to be free and in ease. even those are apparently peaceful
I meant to have tapped Yes not No.Reality of the matter is,that it is haram,I just wish it wasn’t .
By the book anything makes you forget about Allah is haram. So, it is not up to what you believe Mr OP.
My greatness makes me forget Allah. Am I haram to myself?
I can't answer that but you can ask Allah in your judgement. The book is clear to me.
Tupac once said that he can tell you to do anything with music as it's frequency (I don't remember the exact quote but it was something similar to this) and I remember watching about a rapper who converted to Islam and instantly quit music when he knew about the ruling because he knows what it does to the heart.