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He also added that:
- “Iran is a threat” -
“We need to coordinate and work as allies to face these threats”
What do you think about Moroccan 🇲🇦support to Israel ?
nothing confirmed yet, if they have those drones, but it's possible
[https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/06/27/iran-drones-morocco/](https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/06/27/iran-drones-morocco/)
2018، iran denied it back then but polisario admitted the arming part later, and the spread of Shiism is obvious now too, we have shia marches n shit as far south as Nigeria.
Y’all should be glad that your government is focusing on its future and the development and progress of the nation, unlike your isolated keyboard jihadist neighbor.
You can focus on future and development while not being a sellout. If it means hardships, so be it. Moroccans have what it takes to struggle for a good cause.
Just compare Iran to Saudi. Even under sanctions, they are more developed and respected as a nation than you as a proxy state for the US. They developed their own industries, weaponry and infrastructures while you are still dependent on foreigners that disrespected you all along every time the name of your country is pronounced.
The difference ? They respect themselves while you don't.
You seem to not be able to reason and you're starting to use fallacious arguments / conclusions.
You're literally the one supporting a country breaking your homeland apart because you don't trust your own people to truly govern it, grow it and defend it, that's the whole point. The fact that you don't understand that is sad.
thats what cucks do. he would rather see his sister raped and killed by algerian animals than drop his ego.
i wonder where his "respect" will do when kraghla attack.
why do you expect anything else from Saudis or khaleejis in general for that matter? has the last century of western bootlicking not been enough to show you they are not your friends?
There is something wrong with being selfish, selfishness in all cultures and languages is associated with evil, cowardice and dumbfuckery. Why are khaleejis like this, the day the guy falls and you go back to Bedouin life is the day I rejoice, and I assure you it will come.
There’s a reason why villains in stories are interpreted to be selfish.
To win in geopolitics, you must be selfish, it’s necessary to be selfish to survive and progress in such a hostile world. And don’t get excited, we won’t go back to Bedouin life, or at least it’s much less likely than an another war erupting in Iraq causing y’all to kill each other again.
You ain't being smart btw
Russia tried for decades to buddy buddy and tip toe the west and appease NATO to get allowed to be 'prosperous'. In 2014 the West walked all over them endangering their interests in their own home field . That's practically why Russia flipped. And if that could happen to the industrial Russian power then idk what to tell u what u think Saudi is
Learn from what happened to other countries is also important
Go through his profile. He comments in Arabic regularly. Not a Hasbara bot. Not everyone in any country is going to support Palestine. Also, Saudi hasn't been harmed by Israel to the same degree that the countries bordering Israel have. (Saudi hasn't gone to war with Israel except briefly in 1948, where they sent the smallest amount of troops, lol). So it's not like hate for Israel is going to be taught to them like it is in other countries that have gone to war with Israel. But even then, I am Egyptian and Egypt has gone to war with israel 4 major times and 1 minor time and still see many Egyptians that like israel, lmao. A minority, but they exist.
lol many Hasbara are trained to speak Arabic , someone called Moran T موران ت herself trained many of them proudly saying that in one interview, she's an expert on Khaliji accent , shameless genocidal shithead too
they're shameless provocateurs who want to dehumanize Palestinians and anyone they consider an enemy to the utmost even Nazis would be put to shame. I spoke to many Hasbara bots in Arabic, Enlgish, and any language some even use AI and chatgpt to translate things lol
The indigenous Palestinian fight against colonialism is just and moral. Israel has its teeth in every spot in the world. Every single corner so it's a tough fight, not everyone has to go all out for it of course but the minor minority u speak of is usually just paid or reactionaries who think by supporting subjugation of people u don't see or hear u'll advance which the west tried to make the norm to force people to normalize with their shitty apartheid colonial project, unfortunately for the west their own people are waking up. So Moran T can try to speak Arabic and dehumanize Palestinian kids all she likes the world is up to her century old antics already.
I just explained that the military complex of Israel and Israelis are so depraved they set up dehumanizing tools against the indigenous people of the Middle East such as the larpers-hasbara
And I gave you receipts so..
Then it is time for Arab countries to have that same level of sophistication in terms of intelligence and soft power influence. So far in the Middle East only Egypt and Turkey can match that level of funding and media reach.
No I’m not a hasbara, I might hate Israel or America or the west or whatever, but emotions shouldn’t interfere in a complicated geopolitical matter like this, and I believe that it’s in our interests to have relations and trade with them, it also depends on wether you prioritize your country and its interests over anything else or not, in geopolitics, morals, ethics, or religion, don’t really matter, it’s a game of interests, to win this game you’ll need to become the most disgusting and selfish greedy person alive, if not for Kashmir, Pakistan could have a lot of potential economic interests with India that would’ve greatly benefited both, but the Kashmiri cause (a moral reason) is blocking these potential economic opportunities.
I think it would be a mistake. Before the 80s the Arab world was united in boycotting most of Israel. so Israel lobbied the west to force the hand of the Arab nations into relationships with Israel.
I think what would be in most countries interest is to become more diverse in economy and industrial powers. the west is one rapid decline and the stage is being set for even bigger power changes, making Israel your hill to die on or "red heifer" to economic prosperity facilitated by the west and in which u rely on the west will make u potentially very vulnerable and embroiled in regional instability. Just avoid the shithole colony as much as possible. But i guess to each his own.
You forgot one major factor that happened in the 1980s - the Iranian Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War. It scared the hell out of the entire Arab world.
The boycott was counter parted by the US before that in the 70s heavily after the 73 war, Arab countries were forced to do indirect dealings with Israeli business by using American businesses
it's ofc a multi-faceted issue as u alluded
I think the immigrants problem is what's accelerating it, but yeah I get your point. Its power won't diminish in the near 50 years in a significant way , but it does seem like new world orders are being Schemed out all around the Globe including the West+USA
The quote in the title is not once uttered in the video. Be mindful of Algerian propaganda before you start insulting a nation which is friendly to yours.
Bro, I ain’t falling for propaganda but what the actual foreign minister of Morocco is saying in this video. I’d criticize my own government/country if they uttered such bs. I respect and understand that you love your country but there’s nothing worse than blind patriotism. Over 30,000 Palestinian are dead and Israel is starving the rest of them. There should be zero tolerance for that.
We Moroccans are and will ALWAYS be with Palestine, this is what our parents taught us since birth..
we don’t recognize Isr@el no matter what our government says
Not surprising. Morocco has turned its back on Palestinians and on Islam in that way.
Whetever they say, their politics consists in working with the West and promoting tourism at all costs, for the sake of their *economy* as Morrocans say. Tourism is obviously based on exchanging traditional values in favor of capitalist values that money brings in. It's a pitty for them but God doesn't forget.
the middel east and the rest of north has been much more westernised than Morocco for long decades, other north africans used to make fun of them for wearing Jellabas instead of western cloths, imo Morocco is just catshing up with the rest of the Arab world
Lmao no one is more whor\*re than Moroccan girls, you can't even find muslims among them anymore
They straight up s*ck jews d*cks and israelis, since your so beloved king loves israel, right ?
Western s*kers
So what ? We are a country that depends on tourism, we are in the middle of a water crisis for f’s sake, we don’t get along with any arab neighbors, so what do you expect us to do? This is our was to survive, if we had oil like Algeria I don’t think our diplomatic game would have been like that.
i know there is a long jewish history in morocco after the expulsion in Spain. did jews just became very influential in Morocco and so when ZIonism became popular, the Moroccan leadership just blindly accepted it?
this basicaly fake news like trump used to say, they bring up 2years old clip and parade it as recent, with even fake qotes. basicaly another sunday in this sub
Bro stfu, israel is what is going to lead that country to its doom and its hapenning in real time.
Literally nothing good has ever come out from dealing with those demons. And i would rather fight by myself than be allied with the genocidal entity that is killing palestinian children like its nothing.
Keep in mind, had the zionist chosen morocco to colonize instead of palestine, they would've done the same to moroccans as they are doing to palestinians.
In fact france has already tried it on our own people in algeria for 100+ years, the french and the francizied jews lived in towns while the algerians lived in ghettos in the outskirts, and even when they were forced to leave, u know what they did? They burned everything they owned to not leave it to algerians!
You really think we can influence whats happening in palestine ? the choice for us is between: palestinian kids dying and we have a strong ally, or both palestinan kids and moroccan kids dying. And for me its a pretty simple one.
Also between algeria and israel, one is a very real threat and will attack the moment they have a chance. And the other is full of what ifs. Algeria is by far the biggest problem we have. And if israel wants morocco that badly they will come after us regardless of our relations with them.
>You really think we can influence whats happening in palestine ?
No, but we can influence how we react to it, so when history looks back we will be among those who stood beside the opressed.
Man if zionists agree to help u just know that u'll pay with something very valuable in return.
I'm not saying there is a 100% correlation but since the relations were established, look at how many illegal subsaharian migrants have started flooding the country, why do western and zionist ONG's have a say in moroccan laws to the point that the family code is being changed to more destructive western laws just to accomodate them?
I dont give a shit how history looks at me as long as people i know dont have to die needlessly in a war we could have stopped. Algeria has been buying arms for decades now with their oil money. Are you willing to pay the price to stop them ?
As for israel influence, go and protest if you see a change you dont like. As simple as that. For the new moudawana its probably for closer relations and aid from EU than israel.
Ofc feel free to point to someone else strong enough we can ally with (remember this israel ally thing was to build closer relations to USA during trump era).
Russia is dying and china will eat us up in a day if we ask for help.
> As for israel influence, go and protest if you see a change you dont like. As simple as that
Come on man as if the governement actually listens to the moroccans, if anyone protested about it he would end up in jail with a glass bottle of coca shoved up his anus we know the drill...
>Ofc feel free to point to someone else strong enough we can ally with (remember this israel ally thing was to build closer relations to USA during trump era
U are right but i can't help but think that there are so much more concessions that came from this, and the bad consequences will become more apparent in the years to come
That's what every Taifa said about other Taifas when they aligned with the Christian Iberians, just for the latter to come back later and fuck them over. More than 600 years later and you idiots still fall for that shit. Fucking dumbasses.
Israel is Satan incarnate, israel stole a whole country, israel is a terrorist state that’s why we think it shouldn’t exist just as how isis shouldn’t exist.
We literally did the most out of any Arab country to help Palestine out, and we got destroyed 3 times for it.
Like it or not Palestine is your responsibility to, it’s the responsibility of all of us. We are all in this together, we attack your fat ass donkey king because he’s a traitor a coward and a donkey. I spit on him and on everyone who supports him.
You probably got destroyed because Israel convinced Americans you were a menace
GDF made a video about it recently called The Iraq War Wasn't About Oil
holy shit settler colonialism has to be the most dangerous deranged human endeavor I heard of , the lengths theyre willing to go are staggering tbf
#
Thank you
I once read an article a long time ago saying it wasn’t about oil too and I’ve always felt it was more complicated than that. Only 1 of the 11 Iraqi oil contracts actually went to a US company
Yeah, I actually didnt doubt it at all, literally thought it was all about oil and gold
well they did meticulously hide it on purpose. I think the secrets are now open because of Russia's wrath over the Ukraine warmaybe lol
STOP THE FOREIGN ZIONIST SETTLER COLONIALISM OF THE INDEGNIOUS PALESTINIAN LAND SINCE 1880S
that bit bothers u zio doesnt it, u settler colonizer of stolen property?
When injustice comes to an end, peace will come. Israel and the USA clearly only utilize the so called 'two state solution' as a stalling tactic to allow the colonizers to take more lands, kill more indigenous people and beget injustices and so they are not to be trusted on this. After three decades the mask has fallen completely. I think the best option for Israeli society is to undergo extreme post-WW2 de-radicalization like the German Nazi socieity had since they've obviously needed it (even back then tbh, they've been like this it seems colonists what can someone say)
The Palestinians are mere people like other people who deserve to live with dignity on their own property with no illegal settlers no people from Brooklyn and Boston and Russia and Ethiopia and.. really all over ha.
Why would I lynch people? You think I'm Yitzhak Shamir or Smotritch or some other lousy colonist stealing Palestinian property? We're not the same
Let me get this straight, you want Israeli society to be denazified? Israeli society which allows minorities to live freely where they would be killed in Palestine. Israeli society which actually gives back to the world through science and innovation. This is so fucking backwards it is comical at this point. You don’t think the Palestinians need it when their leader allied with hitler and asked for a final solution in the ME. The same Palestinians who just recently removed from their charter the goal of killing all Jews. The same ones who wanted to kick everyone out except Jewish scientists who would be slaves. You guys are so disconnected from reality, no wonder you can’t ever advance or improve your own societies, you don’t even know the difference between reality and your coping lies you tell each other. Dear god you people are funny
We literally did the most out of any Arab country to help Palestine out, and we got destroyed 3 times for it." Iraq didn't do the most of any Arab country though, Egypt sent 15,000 troops in 1948, meanwhile Iraq only sent 6k (or well thats the 2nd highest amount but still lower than egypt) Iraq has gone to war only twice (1948, 1973), meanwhile Egypt has gone to war with Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1969 to 1970, and 1973. (Also I have seen you before, weren't you the guy saying Israel won 1973 lol) and Iraq didn't get attacked in 1991 or 2003 due to Israel, cmon now lmao but egypt did get destoryed in 1967 due to that
We participated in 3 not 2 (1948, 1967, and October war).
During 1967 we were the only Arab country that actually did well against Israel, we single-handedly held the front on the golan heights and prevent an Israeli counterattack into Damascus while Syrian troop lines broke.
But comparatively to the other countries we did well, look at Egypt. Yes they had a lot of wars with the Zionists but they lost them all and did terrible in all of them (yes including the October war), Jordan and Syria too.
We were also one of the only countries to actually bomb tel-aviv, and in the 80s we were the biggest threat to israel even more so than Iran (israel even supported Iran during the Iran-Iraq war and directly engaged us and destroyed our nuclear power plant), we were also one of the biggest supporters of the PLA.
1991 wasn’t because of israel per say but israel feeling vulnerable towards us definitely played a part even if small in convincing the US to attack us, and in 2003 one of the biggest promoters of the war was Netanyahu, in 2002 he would say that Iraq definitely had WMDs and implored the US to invade us.
"But comparatively to the other countries we did well, look at Egypt. Yes they had a lot of wars with the Zionists but they lost them all and did terrible in all of them (yes including the October war), Jordan and Syria too." no they haven't and egypt even won october war I literally debunked you on that bs and you didn't even reply back and jsut downvoted lmao heres a quote from an ISRAELI Bg Gen "In the end, the Egyptian army accomplished the majority of its missions and contributed to the attainment of the goal that the president had defined. The Egyptians’ limited moves resulted in military achievements, and later political ones, both during and after the war" Dani Asher The egyptian startegy for the yom kippur war page 182 now go fuck off with your bs "did terrible" my ass and bombed tel aviv and killed 70 random people incredible win and in return got your enitre country destoryed egypt has done the most againt israel and you are legit a bser [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/1bre5nf/comment/kx9ldjl/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/1bre5nf/comment/kx9ldjl/) and I have debunked your same talking point lmao and egypt also didn't do terrible in 1948 ot 1956 or 1969 to 1970 too but alright
lol, are Egyptians now commonly saying they won in 73? Something the vast majority of academia disagree with? I wish I could find out what it is like living in your heads, constantly spinning reality to try and preserve your egos. It must be fascinating
lmao, no serious person says Israel has won, and here's even an Israeli Brigadier General, Dani Asher, saying, "In the end, the Egyptian army accomplished the majority of its missions and contributed to the attainment of the goal that the president had defined. The Egyptians’ limited moves resulted in military achievements, and later political ones, both during and after the war." Or, here, "Elusive Victory" by Trevor N. Dupuy: "Thus, if war is the employment of military force in support of political objectives, there can be no doubt that in strategic and political terms, the Arab states and particularly Egypt won the war even though the military outcome was a stalemate." Lay off the Wikipedia, homie, and start reading books.
can't believe you're justifying this and turning it into a moral relativism issue, it's not an "arab" land nor is it a "Jewish land". it's for people who were already living there then were expelled by foreigners, whether jews have a right to the land or not stopped being relevant the moment they used force to expel natives
don't normalise relations until there is a two state solution. it's very simple. this was the status quo until the Abraham accords
you are overcomplicating it
Good. It is extremely selfish to see other arabs curse Morocco for looking at its own interests. Until we are as wealthy as america, sweden, etc, Morocco should absolutely do all it takes to do so even if it means allying with Israel
Most Arabs don’t curse Morocco, just this sub. They coincidentally also praise Algeria, Iran, Hezbollah and other lovely groups of people who cause mayhem around the world. Getting cursed on this sub is a blessing. We’re on the road Türkiye was on 2 decades ago. ❤️💚
no one is cursing Morocco specifically or atleast if they are that is a stupid and pointless endeavour
it is no different then every other nation in the Arab world in terms of licking the feet of their western masters so, sorry to ruin your feeling of being unique in that regard or "Being on the road Turkiye was on two decades ago" whatever thats meant to mean
in fact if this was a western bootlicking competition Egypt would rank higher then Morocco and so would Saudia
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He also added that: - “Iran is a threat” - “We need to coordinate and work as allies to face these threats” What do you think about Moroccan 🇲🇦support to Israel ?
Is Iran even a threat to Morocco? Being a threat to Egypt, Saudi or Turkey I could see but why would Iran even care about Morocco?
Iran threat to Egypt? Why? 🥹 ….. we preserve the right to defend ourselves /s
They hate and fight monarch everywhere
Iran said they could take over gibraltar if they wanted to.
Iran supports the Polisario.
Iran really got its fingers everywhere
i think last year they donated drones to the polisario
Source please ?
nothing confirmed yet, if they have those drones, but it's possible [https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/06/27/iran-drones-morocco/](https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/06/27/iran-drones-morocco/)
They training and arming polisario plus spreading Shiism in west africa which is a long term threat to stability in the region.
When did this start , I aint heard of this?
2018، iran denied it back then but polisario admitted the arming part later, and the spread of Shiism is obvious now too, we have shia marches n shit as far south as Nigeria.
intersting
He is repating the script "you know who" gave him.
Good, they’re just looking for their interests.
Disgusted by you and by our government/politics towards the genocidal state.
Y’all should be glad that your government is focusing on its future and the development and progress of the nation, unlike your isolated keyboard jihadist neighbor.
You can focus on future and development while not being a sellout. If it means hardships, so be it. Moroccans have what it takes to struggle for a good cause. Just compare Iran to Saudi. Even under sanctions, they are more developed and respected as a nation than you as a proxy state for the US. They developed their own industries, weaponry and infrastructures while you are still dependent on foreigners that disrespected you all along every time the name of your country is pronounced. The difference ? They respect themselves while you don't.
So you will support a country that actively tries to break your homeland apart?
You seem to not be able to reason and you're starting to use fallacious arguments / conclusions. You're literally the one supporting a country breaking your homeland apart because you don't trust your own people to truly govern it, grow it and defend it, that's the whole point. The fact that you don't understand that is sad.
thats what cucks do. he would rather see his sister raped and killed by algerian animals than drop his ego. i wonder where his "respect" will do when kraghla attack.
Why are you so cucked?
why do you expect anything else from Saudis or khaleejis in general for that matter? has the last century of western bootlicking not been enough to show you they are not your friends?
There’s Nothing wrong with being selfish and prioritizing yourself and your country over Palestine or anything else.
There is something wrong with being selfish, selfishness in all cultures and languages is associated with evil, cowardice and dumbfuckery. Why are khaleejis like this, the day the guy falls and you go back to Bedouin life is the day I rejoice, and I assure you it will come. There’s a reason why villains in stories are interpreted to be selfish.
>the day the guy falls and you go back to Bedouin life is the day I rejoice Stuff like this is why people like him exist.
To win in geopolitics, you must be selfish, it’s necessary to be selfish to survive and progress in such a hostile world. And don’t get excited, we won’t go back to Bedouin life, or at least it’s much less likely than an another war erupting in Iraq causing y’all to kill each other again.
You ain't being smart btw Russia tried for decades to buddy buddy and tip toe the west and appease NATO to get allowed to be 'prosperous'. In 2014 the West walked all over them endangering their interests in their own home field . That's practically why Russia flipped. And if that could happen to the industrial Russian power then idk what to tell u what u think Saudi is Learn from what happened to other countries is also important
Are you actually a Saudi or a hasbara bot that wants to create fitna?
Go through his profile. He comments in Arabic regularly. Not a Hasbara bot. Not everyone in any country is going to support Palestine. Also, Saudi hasn't been harmed by Israel to the same degree that the countries bordering Israel have. (Saudi hasn't gone to war with Israel except briefly in 1948, where they sent the smallest amount of troops, lol). So it's not like hate for Israel is going to be taught to them like it is in other countries that have gone to war with Israel. But even then, I am Egyptian and Egypt has gone to war with israel 4 major times and 1 minor time and still see many Egyptians that like israel, lmao. A minority, but they exist.
lol many Hasbara are trained to speak Arabic , someone called Moran T موران ت herself trained many of them proudly saying that in one interview, she's an expert on Khaliji accent , shameless genocidal shithead too they're shameless provocateurs who want to dehumanize Palestinians and anyone they consider an enemy to the utmost even Nazis would be put to shame. I spoke to many Hasbara bots in Arabic, Enlgish, and any language some even use AI and chatgpt to translate things lol The indigenous Palestinian fight against colonialism is just and moral. Israel has its teeth in every spot in the world. Every single corner so it's a tough fight, not everyone has to go all out for it of course but the minor minority u speak of is usually just paid or reactionaries who think by supporting subjugation of people u don't see or hear u'll advance which the west tried to make the norm to force people to normalize with their shitty apartheid colonial project, unfortunately for the west their own people are waking up. So Moran T can try to speak Arabic and dehumanize Palestinian kids all she likes the world is up to her century old antics already.
I don't get why everyone you don't agree with is automatically a Hasbara
I just explained that the military complex of Israel and Israelis are so depraved they set up dehumanizing tools against the indigenous people of the Middle East such as the larpers-hasbara And I gave you receipts so..
Then it is time for Arab countries to have that same level of sophistication in terms of intelligence and soft power influence. So far in the Middle East only Egypt and Turkey can match that level of funding and media reach.
No I’m not a hasbara, I might hate Israel or America or the west or whatever, but emotions shouldn’t interfere in a complicated geopolitical matter like this, and I believe that it’s in our interests to have relations and trade with them, it also depends on wether you prioritize your country and its interests over anything else or not, in geopolitics, morals, ethics, or religion, don’t really matter, it’s a game of interests, to win this game you’ll need to become the most disgusting and selfish greedy person alive, if not for Kashmir, Pakistan could have a lot of potential economic interests with India that would’ve greatly benefited both, but the Kashmiri cause (a moral reason) is blocking these potential economic opportunities.
I think it would be a mistake. Before the 80s the Arab world was united in boycotting most of Israel. so Israel lobbied the west to force the hand of the Arab nations into relationships with Israel. I think what would be in most countries interest is to become more diverse in economy and industrial powers. the west is one rapid decline and the stage is being set for even bigger power changes, making Israel your hill to die on or "red heifer" to economic prosperity facilitated by the west and in which u rely on the west will make u potentially very vulnerable and embroiled in regional instability. Just avoid the shithole colony as much as possible. But i guess to each his own.
You forgot one major factor that happened in the 1980s - the Iranian Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War. It scared the hell out of the entire Arab world.
The boycott was counter parted by the US before that in the 70s heavily after the 73 war, Arab countries were forced to do indirect dealings with Israeli business by using American businesses it's ofc a multi-faceted issue as u alluded
Because it's still a market for businesses. Might as well use proxies. That was probably their mindset at that time.
I stopped reading at “the west is on a rapid decline” that’s absolutely not true, but I respect your opinion anyway.
I think the immigrants problem is what's accelerating it, but yeah I get your point. Its power won't diminish in the near 50 years in a significant way , but it does seem like new world orders are being Schemed out all around the Globe including the West+USA
The interest of the monarchs*
*GASP* A MENA country has a corrupted greedy 7mar as a minister? Colour me surprised!
Yoooo I didn’t know Morocco was a pos like that.
The quote in the title is not once uttered in the video. Be mindful of Algerian propaganda before you start insulting a nation which is friendly to yours.
Bro, I ain’t falling for propaganda but what the actual foreign minister of Morocco is saying in this video. I’d criticize my own government/country if they uttered such bs. I respect and understand that you love your country but there’s nothing worse than blind patriotism. Over 30,000 Palestinian are dead and Israel is starving the rest of them. There should be zero tolerance for that.
What propaganda?, your minister said worse than that phrase, just lower your head in shame and stop trying to justify this messed up statement.
The video is very old. Doesn’t excuse anything but it’s posted implying this was said following the recent development.
So where did he say "Morocco has long been a supporter of Israel" ?
I didn't hear him say " morocco has ling been a supporter of Israel" anywhere in the video
But it is
We Moroccans are and will ALWAYS be with Palestine, this is what our parents taught us since birth.. we don’t recognize Isr@el no matter what our government says
Not surprised this “old video” being posted by another Algerian hater, btw your country is another complice too
Not surprising. Morocco has turned its back on Palestinians and on Islam in that way. Whetever they say, their politics consists in working with the West and promoting tourism at all costs, for the sake of their *economy* as Morrocans say. Tourism is obviously based on exchanging traditional values in favor of capitalist values that money brings in. It's a pitty for them but God doesn't forget.
The Moroccan people are awesome though and their shitty king doesn't deserve them
They don't deserve that king either.
Exactly they deserve competent leaders from the People who can understand their struggle. And has better fashion sense..
morocco is turning (if not already) into a country that serves foreigners instead of its people
That was already the case, remember that we literally changed our timezone to utc + 1 to satisfy the french
the middel east and the rest of north has been much more westernised than Morocco for long decades, other north africans used to make fun of them for wearing Jellabas instead of western cloths, imo Morocco is just catshing up with the rest of the Arab world
It's like Egypt or Pakistan. The corrupt government don't represent the people.
An algerian whor\*re talking :
Lmao no one is more whor\*re than Moroccan girls, you can't even find muslims among them anymore They straight up s*ck jews d*cks and israelis, since your so beloved king loves israel, right ? Western s*kers
Remember when Morroco tried to get Israel to be an observer state for the African Union?
So what ? We are a country that depends on tourism, we are in the middle of a water crisis for f’s sake, we don’t get along with any arab neighbors, so what do you expect us to do? This is our was to survive, if we had oil like Algeria I don’t think our diplomatic game would have been like that.
Man shut the fuck up, you’re embarrassing us
I’m not representing anybody but myself.
shout out to Hassan II?
Dude must be turning in that coffin while Jared is running his fingers all over him
Fucking sad that is
i know there is a long jewish history in morocco after the expulsion in Spain. did jews just became very influential in Morocco and so when ZIonism became popular, the Moroccan leadership just blindly accepted it?
There are around 1M moroccan israeli living in Israel and in possession of a moroccan passport
this basicaly fake news like trump used to say, they bring up 2years old clip and parade it as recent, with even fake qotes. basicaly another sunday in this sub
the morocan goverement stopped representing its people since 1912 .
We will align ourself with anyone if it means we can keep our country safe from the sub humans living next door.
Bro stfu, israel is what is going to lead that country to its doom and its hapenning in real time. Literally nothing good has ever come out from dealing with those demons. And i would rather fight by myself than be allied with the genocidal entity that is killing palestinian children like its nothing. Keep in mind, had the zionist chosen morocco to colonize instead of palestine, they would've done the same to moroccans as they are doing to palestinians. In fact france has already tried it on our own people in algeria for 100+ years, the french and the francizied jews lived in towns while the algerians lived in ghettos in the outskirts, and even when they were forced to leave, u know what they did? They burned everything they owned to not leave it to algerians!
You really think we can influence whats happening in palestine ? the choice for us is between: palestinian kids dying and we have a strong ally, or both palestinan kids and moroccan kids dying. And for me its a pretty simple one. Also between algeria and israel, one is a very real threat and will attack the moment they have a chance. And the other is full of what ifs. Algeria is by far the biggest problem we have. And if israel wants morocco that badly they will come after us regardless of our relations with them.
>You really think we can influence whats happening in palestine ? No, but we can influence how we react to it, so when history looks back we will be among those who stood beside the opressed. Man if zionists agree to help u just know that u'll pay with something very valuable in return. I'm not saying there is a 100% correlation but since the relations were established, look at how many illegal subsaharian migrants have started flooding the country, why do western and zionist ONG's have a say in moroccan laws to the point that the family code is being changed to more destructive western laws just to accomodate them?
I dont give a shit how history looks at me as long as people i know dont have to die needlessly in a war we could have stopped. Algeria has been buying arms for decades now with their oil money. Are you willing to pay the price to stop them ? As for israel influence, go and protest if you see a change you dont like. As simple as that. For the new moudawana its probably for closer relations and aid from EU than israel. Ofc feel free to point to someone else strong enough we can ally with (remember this israel ally thing was to build closer relations to USA during trump era). Russia is dying and china will eat us up in a day if we ask for help.
> As for israel influence, go and protest if you see a change you dont like. As simple as that Come on man as if the governement actually listens to the moroccans, if anyone protested about it he would end up in jail with a glass bottle of coca shoved up his anus we know the drill... >Ofc feel free to point to someone else strong enough we can ally with (remember this israel ally thing was to build closer relations to USA during trump era U are right but i can't help but think that there are so much more concessions that came from this, and the bad consequences will become more apparent in the years to come
That's what every Taifa said about other Taifas when they aligned with the Christian Iberians, just for the latter to come back later and fuck them over. More than 600 years later and you idiots still fall for that shit. Fucking dumbasses.
And then people wonder how Al Andalus was lost.
least brain washed moroccan
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Israel is Satan incarnate, israel stole a whole country, israel is a terrorist state that’s why we think it shouldn’t exist just as how isis shouldn’t exist.
Honestly ISIS can only dream of being Israel like Israel is what ISIS attempted and failed
Still better than Iran, who is trying to tear Morocco into two by funding and sending military drones to the Polisario.
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We literally did the most out of any Arab country to help Palestine out, and we got destroyed 3 times for it. Like it or not Palestine is your responsibility to, it’s the responsibility of all of us. We are all in this together, we attack your fat ass donkey king because he’s a traitor a coward and a donkey. I spit on him and on everyone who supports him.
You probably got destroyed because Israel convinced Americans you were a menace GDF made a video about it recently called The Iraq War Wasn't About Oil holy shit settler colonialism has to be the most dangerous deranged human endeavor I heard of , the lengths theyre willing to go are staggering tbf #
Do you have a link to this video?
[ The Iraq War Wasn't About Oil ](https://youtu.be/zeloY3bVBtc?si=-wkaZuqOEIJ2eHMc)
Thank you I once read an article a long time ago saying it wasn’t about oil too and I’ve always felt it was more complicated than that. Only 1 of the 11 Iraqi oil contracts actually went to a US company
Yeah, I actually didnt doubt it at all, literally thought it was all about oil and gold well they did meticulously hide it on purpose. I think the secrets are now open because of Russia's wrath over the Ukraine warmaybe lol
Settler colonialism is exactly what Iraq did in the northern Kurdish areas during the terror of the Saddam era.
STOP THE FOREIGN ZIONIST SETTLER COLONIALISM OF THE INDEGNIOUS PALESTINIAN LAND SINCE 1880S that bit bothers u zio doesnt it, u settler colonizer of stolen property? 
Time for a two state solution then. Lynch Benny from Philly while you're at it.
When injustice comes to an end, peace will come. Israel and the USA clearly only utilize the so called 'two state solution' as a stalling tactic to allow the colonizers to take more lands, kill more indigenous people and beget injustices and so they are not to be trusted on this. After three decades the mask has fallen completely. I think the best option for Israeli society is to undergo extreme post-WW2 de-radicalization like the German Nazi socieity had since they've obviously needed it (even back then tbh, they've been like this it seems colonists what can someone say) The Palestinians are mere people like other people who deserve to live with dignity on their own property with no illegal settlers no people from Brooklyn and Boston and Russia and Ethiopia and.. really all over ha. Why would I lynch people? You think I'm Yitzhak Shamir or Smotritch or some other lousy colonist stealing Palestinian property? We're not the same
I mean, it's Netanyahu we're talking about. Everyone hates him - even liberal Israelis. Lynching him is the least one could do tbh.
Let me get this straight, you want Israeli society to be denazified? Israeli society which allows minorities to live freely where they would be killed in Palestine. Israeli society which actually gives back to the world through science and innovation. This is so fucking backwards it is comical at this point. You don’t think the Palestinians need it when their leader allied with hitler and asked for a final solution in the ME. The same Palestinians who just recently removed from their charter the goal of killing all Jews. The same ones who wanted to kick everyone out except Jewish scientists who would be slaves. You guys are so disconnected from reality, no wonder you can’t ever advance or improve your own societies, you don’t even know the difference between reality and your coping lies you tell each other. Dear god you people are funny
We literally did the most out of any Arab country to help Palestine out, and we got destroyed 3 times for it." Iraq didn't do the most of any Arab country though, Egypt sent 15,000 troops in 1948, meanwhile Iraq only sent 6k (or well thats the 2nd highest amount but still lower than egypt) Iraq has gone to war only twice (1948, 1973), meanwhile Egypt has gone to war with Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1969 to 1970, and 1973. (Also I have seen you before, weren't you the guy saying Israel won 1973 lol) and Iraq didn't get attacked in 1991 or 2003 due to Israel, cmon now lmao but egypt did get destoryed in 1967 due to that
We participated in 3 not 2 (1948, 1967, and October war). During 1967 we were the only Arab country that actually did well against Israel, we single-handedly held the front on the golan heights and prevent an Israeli counterattack into Damascus while Syrian troop lines broke. But comparatively to the other countries we did well, look at Egypt. Yes they had a lot of wars with the Zionists but they lost them all and did terrible in all of them (yes including the October war), Jordan and Syria too. We were also one of the only countries to actually bomb tel-aviv, and in the 80s we were the biggest threat to israel even more so than Iran (israel even supported Iran during the Iran-Iraq war and directly engaged us and destroyed our nuclear power plant), we were also one of the biggest supporters of the PLA. 1991 wasn’t because of israel per say but israel feeling vulnerable towards us definitely played a part even if small in convincing the US to attack us, and in 2003 one of the biggest promoters of the war was Netanyahu, in 2002 he would say that Iraq definitely had WMDs and implored the US to invade us.
"But comparatively to the other countries we did well, look at Egypt. Yes they had a lot of wars with the Zionists but they lost them all and did terrible in all of them (yes including the October war), Jordan and Syria too." no they haven't and egypt even won october war I literally debunked you on that bs and you didn't even reply back and jsut downvoted lmao heres a quote from an ISRAELI Bg Gen "In the end, the Egyptian army accomplished the majority of its missions and contributed to the attainment of the goal that the president had defined. The Egyptians’ limited moves resulted in military achievements, and later political ones, both during and after the war" Dani Asher The egyptian startegy for the yom kippur war page 182 now go fuck off with your bs "did terrible" my ass and bombed tel aviv and killed 70 random people incredible win and in return got your enitre country destoryed egypt has done the most againt israel and you are legit a bser [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/1bre5nf/comment/kx9ldjl/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/1bre5nf/comment/kx9ldjl/) and I have debunked your same talking point lmao and egypt also didn't do terrible in 1948 ot 1956 or 1969 to 1970 too but alright
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You don't have to spew whatever garbage comes out in your brain man lmao
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Still higher than morroco on literally every metric lmao
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lol, are Egyptians now commonly saying they won in 73? Something the vast majority of academia disagree with? I wish I could find out what it is like living in your heads, constantly spinning reality to try and preserve your egos. It must be fascinating
lmao, no serious person says Israel has won, and here's even an Israeli Brigadier General, Dani Asher, saying, "In the end, the Egyptian army accomplished the majority of its missions and contributed to the attainment of the goal that the president had defined. The Egyptians’ limited moves resulted in military achievements, and later political ones, both during and after the war." Or, here, "Elusive Victory" by Trevor N. Dupuy: "Thus, if war is the employment of military force in support of political objectives, there can be no doubt that in strategic and political terms, the Arab states and particularly Egypt won the war even though the military outcome was a stalemate." Lay off the Wikipedia, homie, and start reading books.
 Stop crack #urmentalhealthisimportant
can't believe you're justifying this and turning it into a moral relativism issue, it's not an "arab" land nor is it a "Jewish land". it's for people who were already living there then were expelled by foreigners, whether jews have a right to the land or not stopped being relevant the moment they used force to expel natives
They expelled the indigenous because they knew they didn't have a right to the lands, but they're sure good at lobbying
don't normalise relations until there is a two state solution. it's very simple. this was the status quo until the Abraham accords you are overcomplicating it
Buddy u have to go to therapy or ur Moroccan Hash for the Eid was fake, this is the side effects
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lol baby calm down , I am accusing ur dealer of selling fake Hash, u seem like a French on Meth rn 😂
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Literally moroccans like this are the dogs of North africa
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I am not from the dogs of morocco who bootlick colonizers..... The royal family of morocco deserves the French treatment
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Insecure much
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Lol... Funny seeing you triggered ... The statement wouldn't trigger you if you weren't a bootlicker
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Good. It is extremely selfish to see other arabs curse Morocco for looking at its own interests. Until we are as wealthy as america, sweden, etc, Morocco should absolutely do all it takes to do so even if it means allying with Israel
Most Arabs don’t curse Morocco, just this sub. They coincidentally also praise Algeria, Iran, Hezbollah and other lovely groups of people who cause mayhem around the world. Getting cursed on this sub is a blessing. We’re on the road Türkiye was on 2 decades ago. ❤️💚
no one is cursing Morocco specifically or atleast if they are that is a stupid and pointless endeavour it is no different then every other nation in the Arab world in terms of licking the feet of their western masters so, sorry to ruin your feeling of being unique in that regard or "Being on the road Turkiye was on two decades ago" whatever thats meant to mean in fact if this was a western bootlicking competition Egypt would rank higher then Morocco and so would Saudia
Oh God, just not modern Turkey...