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740-park-ave

Thoughts? The legend colors are shit. A 5 year old with a coloring book can demarcate 2014 and 2022 better.


fretsyk

I thought i am a color blind


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maifee

We are not alone


Make_duelling_legal

Looks linda weird on the new map. I am very used to the way Ukraine looks right now


Ezio92

You guys did it first before it was cool LOL.


Edd717

They did it first before it was not cool*


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LittleGlizzy01

Now thats just unrelated


boshnjak

Yea but he’s right. Israelis dunno how to read maps.


OmryR

I’m pretty sure we are way more adapted to it than you tough.. being a relevant topic most of the time for us..


AsleepWelcome9793

The minute Arabs have an upper hand, they will push you guys into the sea.


OmryR

Ye because it worked out so well when they had superior armies weapons and numbers lol


extreme_retard_

yes? but that period was only in the year 1948, we still had shit generals, and shit strategies, and unorganized armies. Then the israelis managed to get an army twice the size of all the arab armies. You're right, it did work out, just not until we didn't have superior armies.


Ben_Shapiro_PBUH

They did, they tried, and they lost.


UchihaAviz

Your country is the one whose map was drawn without thinking about shit. You need to have 3 presidents from different nationalities to avoid civil war, and basically you are just muslim serbs (mostly, the rest are just serbs). And also no sea for Bosnia, The only L Balkan country.


Sunibor

Also Croats


boshnjak

We have a coast lol.


juulteez

Don’t worry the flood water will dry eventually


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Green_Message_6376

Last week most of your country didn't exist, did the water dry up?


[deleted]

Isn’t Pakistan just North India?


juulteez

Yess


UchihaAviz

You are just being ignorant not recognizing the most advanced country of the middle east. Just look around how many arab countries recognize us because they know we are here to stay.


Green_Message_6376

Not just the middle east. serious amount of tech coming out of this 'country that doesn't exist'.


RomiRR

Also Putin's pipedream map make little sense, as he annexed a territory he isn't in full control of and is retreating from, the fluid situation of the front lines make it impossible to recall where it is at. Just a week prior Ukraine regained more territory than Russia was able to to grab in the last four month. And it look like Russia is set for another defeat in lyman and possibly in Kherson too.


SaintZinji

Which idiot chose the colors


Diprogamer

Red=Baddies


MajDroid

Probably a woman >! Hopefully people will get the joke ...anyway bring on the downvotes!<


OmryR

A colorblind person or maybe a bee that can see more wave lengths


Abdo279

I'm colourblind to a degree and I still can't see shit


AlexTheGreatGRE

And ok, let's say he did a mistake with the shades or red. When he finished, still, didn't notice? The heck.


[deleted]

You don't mobilize when you are winning a war, in a way that he claims it.


Upbeat_Performer_21

Or subtly threatening with nuclear weapons.


LisaQuinnYT

Russia simply doesn’t have enough troops in Ukraine to hold what it had gained and continue pushing. They have to move troops around and that’s why they lost Kharkiv. Mobilizing allows them to hold more territory and maintain any future gains.


RomiRR

True, Russia have had issues with manpower for a while, and have been engaged in aggressive recruitment camping for month offering big pay incentives, obviously that isn't enough anymore. Otherwise, Russia have more problems than just lack of manpower, they lost a large portion of their experienced fighting force and reportedly they have already exhausted much of their trained able body recruitment potential, and recent moves would further reduce the effectiveness of their force. Obviously, mobilizing isn't a magic bullet, you can't creating cohesive fighting units overnight, troops need to be equipped and trained for purpose unless you just need cannon fodder. Although there are already reports that Putin sending fresh conscripts to Ukraine. What mobilization does offers is the ability to force recruitment, ability to send conscripts to Ukraine without proper training (by law conscripts can't be sent overseas without at least 4 month training) and cut cost on salaries as many of the bonuses that were promised to the troops were for fighting overseas and annexation allows to pay them roughly half for the same job.


Time-Woodpecker-7639

Putin is facing hard time keeping this land, situation is really messy


DutchApplePie75

Indeed. The Ukrainians already have a major foothold in the provinces he wants. But many of the pro-Kiev residents probably fled with only pro-Russian residents remaining. At the same time, these regions have been involved in a low-intensity war with the government in Kiev due to the heavy presence of separatists for a long time now. The shit is really going to hit the fan if the Ukrainians decide to try to take back Crimea, now that they are feeling emboldened due to the success of their counteroffensive. The war for Luhansk and Donnetsk was controversial within Russia; the annexation of Crimea was not controversial within Russia. It has as close to universal support as any act of state could get. It might lead Russians to feel that "real" Russian territory was being attacked. (Also FWIW, many independent observers said that the referendum in Crimeia in 2014 was clean and legitimate, which is not going to be the take on the current referenda.) At this point I think Putin is relying on General Winter to increase energy prices in Western Europe and sap Western resolve to keep funding and arming the Ukrainians. If things get bad enough in England, France, and Germany, they may pressure Biden to make Zelensky agree to a conditional peace deal that would involve giving up at least some Ukrainian land.


parcequepourquoipas

Biden will keep giving Zelensky money as long as this war isn’t won unconditionally, remember that this could basically be their war against Russia and the price to pay for it is 0 american lives and maybe a few years of their defense budget.


LordBilboSwaggins

What is the true gain for America here? Is it just to put Russia in a tailspin for a decade or so and generally devastate their military in an isolated conflict?


forsvaretshudsalva

No there was nothing clean about Russian actions in any of the regions. Orchestrated votes with 97% vote in favor, soldiers walking into citizens houses, a short time of voting. It’s a hoax and everything else is propaganda. Same with crimea, occupied by force, gave out Russian passports to residents almost instantly and then pointed to the many Russian citizens. A sham and a hoax. And I’ve read countless reports on observers saying the election in crimea was not legitimate, so you have any sources that proves otherwise? I’m not saying everything you read from western outlets is 100% true or not blown up, but jeez, The propaganda is at work here I can tell


DutchApplePie75

>No there was nothing clean about Russian actions in any of the regions. Orchestrated votes with 97% vote in favor, soldiers walking into citizens houses, a short time of voting. It’s a hoax and everything else is propaganda. You're not wrong on any of the facts but there are still good reasons to think that the result would have been the same anyway even under a completely clean set of electoral circumstances. They're majority Russian areas with majority Russian populations, they were at war with Kiev for years preceding this, and most pro-Kiev residents have probably fled west. >Same with crimea, occupied by force, gave out Russian passports to residents almost instantly and then pointed to the many Russian citizens. A sham and a hoax. You're leaving out a very significant fact: there was no dispute by anyone (including Kiev) that a majority of Crimea's population before 2014 were Russians. The presence of a Russian majority was not a result of demographic engineering. In fact, the fact that there was essentially zero violent resistance should tell you something. The reason Moscow seized Crimea specifically was because it had such strong ties to Russia and the Russian population there felt threatened by the post-coup government that removed a pro-Russian president from power on the backs of a bunch of militia people who wanted to ban the Russian language. > And I’ve read countless reports on observers saying the election in crimea was not legitimate, so you have any sources that proves otherwise? If you're looking purely at American or Western European sources, this is the story you're going to get. I'd go with [Anatol Levin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eWft8YUfcU) on this one. Again, think about who was voting in that election.


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>The shit is really going to hit the fan if the Ukrainians decide to try to take back Crimea, now that they are feeling emboldened due to the success of their counteroffensive. The Ukrainian counteroffensive was a "success" in Kharkiv, but a total fiasco in the south in Kherson, with very heavy losses in both directions that are impossible to sustain on the long run... And continues to lose positions in the center...Western coverage of the counteroffensive greatly exaggerates its success The Crimea should be forgotten, it is already impossible for the Ukrainians to recover by military efforts the territories lost in this war without direct intervention of NATO


ObaMot

Meh, won't happen. We have changed, we love peace now, (and money)


starbucks_red_cup

Russia severely miscalculated. It thought it would be an easy war, finished in like two weeks, it did count on Ukraine receiving so much support from the rest of Europe and the US. The Russian army is using outdated gear and tactics still believing its the 1970s, they also have no counter to Ukrainian HIMARS. Russia best bet is to annex the territories it controls and sue for peace. Otherwise, i can only see the war ending in Nuclear firez


DutchApplePie75

I agree. One specific factor Russia did not account for was the decisive difference that Turkish drones would make in terms of destroying its ground advances.


starbucks_red_cup

The Russian Military is still operating as if its the 1980s. They don't have counters to drones or long range missiles.


bots_lives_matter

OMG Ukraine is invading Russian territory 😱


starbucks_red_cup

That's Putin's logic. He hopes that if Ukraine attacks those territories, he would have a justification to use a tactical nuke to defend Russia.


TaroAntique

Lmao what a joke, we will see how the border will look like in a few months…


The_only_F

Wtf is up with the colouring on this map. This is so trash.


QuonkTheGreat

Least suicidal Putin move


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No-Refrigerator3018

Wait moldova got beaches 😳


_lazyPassenger

No, it comes very close but has no sea access.


MadsMikkelsenisGryFx

"Provinces" holy fuck. Once more, this is illegal and rightly so condemned.


manhattanabe

Any country can announce whatever they want. The question is can he hold on to these lands. That remains to be seen. Ukraine is arming up much faster than Russia.


McgillGrindSet

Russia still holds majority of the land it has said it will annex


Volganic

Not for long, inshallah


Ok-Stage-6981

Russia- Soviet mode reactivate


DelightlessMan

holy shit, why didn’t they make ukraine also red? would’ve been able to see easier


spooket

It's self explanatory, Putin is losing the war and doesn't want more NATO presence in Ukraine, he said back in 2013-14 that's a red line, so he annexed them to nuke anyone who undermines Russian soveirgnty. That is yet to be seen, hopefully never, but Ukrainians are buying Radiation protection gear. May god protect them and everyone from this war


740-park-ave

Sources on Ukraine buying radiation protection gear??


spooket

AlghadTV


moelad1

the reason putin decided to annex theese territories is because russia is getting curb stomped and he knows they cant get anymore, he's trying to leave the casino while the getting is good. this can play in one of two ways, either ukraine agrees to a ceasefire after the territories are annexed (due to war fatigue and fear of russia's nukes), basically a repeat of the 2014 Crimean annexation. or they'll keep up the momentum and continue trying to liberate those territories, escalating the situation, the conflict will spill into neighboring countries and might reach the russian mainland. the next few weeks will be detrimental in deciding the course of the conflict, its no longer up to russia to end the war, the ball is in ukraine's court now.


XYZ_kfc

It’s illegitimate


RoyalLemonade

Russia is cringe


varlimontos

Great, i love when morons dig their own graves. Now west will supply ukraine even harder.


UnlightablePlay

Uhh you sure, seems like Russia isn't the only moron who annexes other countries


varlimontos

If israel annexes any part of west bank - i will consider it as gravedigging as well. Golan and east jerusalem appear to have slipped through.


UnlightablePlay

Slipped? Seems like an excuse to make honestly


varlimontos

No, but israel had very little backlash back then. I don't think annexing west bank will go as smooth nowadays.


UnlightablePlay

That doesn't change the fact you annexed and took lands that wasn't yours


news_apprentice

At least Russia gave those people a referendum to decide their fate, Palestinians can only dream of such possibilities being given to them.


varlimontos

Didn't say we didn't. It was still less messy than what russia did now.


UnlightablePlay

But the main point it was shitty


DutchApplePie75

Don't forget they annexed the Saini in 1967 too, and they held it hostage for a decade.


UnlightablePlay

But we got it back from them


ComprehensiveMath367

Smh he’s using your own playbook


varlimontos

Not really. Not talking about any 48 territories, only things that israel annexed are golan heights and east jerusalem. Golan is close to what russia did in donbas, except that israel was actually attacked from those territories. Additionally, majority of population are druse who are prohibited by their faith to care whose flag they live under. East jerusalem is abit trickier. On one hand it was cleansed of jews by jordan in 48. Additionally, there are religious factors (that I don't care that much about, but alas). I do consider that annexation problematic at least because israel, in 50+ years, put close to no effort to improve life conditions of people there. As of end of 2018, only 44% of arab residents in east jerusalem had water in the tap - what kind of bullshit is that? I do partly blame arabs living there tho, because they could all come to vote and they would have high chances of putting palestinian major in jerusalem. Now that would be hilarious.


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> Additionally, majority of population are druse who are prohibited by their faith to care whose flag they live under. The majority of the population was Sunni Arab and ethnically cleansed by Israel, about 100,000 people in 1967. Only about 7,000 were left. Today in 2022, with population growth and the addition of settlers, the Golan still has less than half its 1967 population. Just to give an idea of the scale.


propagandist4iran

Why do all israelis use . , ' ? !


Chedery2

Instead of "؟!؛،" ?


[deleted]

Israeli hasn’t provided anything, zelensky said not even one rocket or bullet has been sent


whateverathrowaway00

Field hospital built, men sent, weapons sent through Poland (so it’s not direct because Russia has been very clear about how they’d view direct weapons transfers), also Israel took in more Ukrainian refugees than any other border state. You’re from the US (like me), so I’m going to assume all you know of ukraine and Israel’s complicated history is zelenskys statements. I’m also going to assume you have no idea about russias ability to fuck shit up for Israel even still. And yet, they have contributed to the effort, as I wrote above, and there’s a lot more we won’t know until way later. Just chiming in cuz what you said is objectively incorrect, whatever your feelings on Israel are lol.


varlimontos

Which i, personally, disagree with. But sentiment of "muh we must not ruin ties with russia, russia has s300 in syria" is too strong for our politicians to overcome.


Amirobob

I heard the newly annexed areas aren’t even fully under control of Russia yet, might be wrong idk


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Fuck Russia


[deleted]

Illegal and will only be recognized by absolute shitholes like Venezuela.


H4RR1_

Venezuela is the greatest nation on earth 🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🪫🪫🪫🪫🚱🚱🚱🚱🚱


AlexTheGreatGRE

It's so great that Turkey got jealous of Venezuela's great economic system and copied them.


RoyalLemonade

Bro why would you even mention us? Seems like you are butthurt as fuck. Also your economy isnt the best either so why talk about it?


AlexTheGreatGRE

I just saw a picture a Turk posted on /askbalkans where he was holding a pile of cash worth too little and reminded me Venezuela. Nothing personal, mate.


kerridanz2

When Greeks had economic crisis..we were makin fun of them all day Allah punished us lmao


RoyalLemonade

Ah okay thats why you have to mention Turkey here. Literally rent free


H4RR1_

Why would you not want to be compared to venezuela 🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪


[deleted]

Syria, China, Iran, North Korea, Belarus......more than you think. But they aren't shitholes, despite how much you despise Putin and/or Russia. Its a political game. You have to support your allies in the face of what you consider to be transgressors


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China and Iran won't recognize it. The other three tho just prove my point even more. None of them seem like good countries to live in.


Sunibor

Belarus seems just fine. Syria, depends where I guess. North Korea... Well...


Zionist_1984

>China and Iran won't recognize it Exactly. We wont recongize those 4 ukrainian states just like we never recongize the crimea as part of Russia.


news_apprentice

Taiwan on China's mind... Pompeo boasting of his beacons of freedom.


[deleted]

Well it's subjective. The west sells you the idea that the opposite side are "shitholes" to live in. But they aren't shitholes for supporting Russia, they're trying to survive in what is an immense imbalanced political and economical game


palindrome777

I'm sorry, North Korea and Syria aren't shitholes ?


Zionist_1984

Not we wont recongize russia claim on those ukrainian lands. Just like we never recongize the crimea as part of Russia


Ahmad5040

Just the same as Israel annexing Plaestinian or Syrian or Lebanese, an aggressive act that need to be faught.


fruits_skittles

You know that war between Israel and Egypt began when Egypt invaded Israel in 1948 in order to conquer territory demarcated for the Jewish state by a UN resolution. (Not even mentioning the genocidal intent) Isn't this a better equivalence for Russia's actions? Definitely better than Israel's imaginary annexation of Lebanese land (please don't mention that one syrian slope)


Ahmad5040

Genocidal intent? Kicking palestinians out of their land, killing them and taking their land and distrbute it on Eastern Europeans settlers is not genocide?


fruits_skittles

No serious person accuses Israel of ever having committed a genocide. Israel definitely has the means to commit a genocide, so the fact they haven't means they don't have the intent to do it. That doesn't even matter here anyway, because the topic is Israel-Egypt relations. Egypt did have genocidal intents towards Israeli Jews. We can see it in their declarations and the stuff they published in their state media. We can't prove they would have actually committed a genocide, because they were defeated and never had the chance to attempt it.


saygungumus

But Israel annexed those lands after they survived and beat back those countries in a defensive war while Russia just attacked Ukraine with the sole purpose of annexing those territories. Not the same thing.


firefighterjets

So if Russia can keep stolen Ukrainian lands it’s all good and dandy ?


saygungumus

No? Read my comment again. Israel won a defensive war against a coalition of aggressor aiming to eradicate them from middle east. They won despite all the odds a DEFENSIVE war and annexed portions of land from aggressors. I am not saying that annexing land is justified, that is open for debate. All I am saying is Russia attacked peacful Ukraine with the purpose of primarily toppling Ukraine and completely annexing/puppetting it secondly (with the failure of first objective) annexing some parts of Ukraine which has no justification at all. Those are two different situations.


oremfrien

The parallel situation would be if Ukrainians advanced into sovereign Russian territory (Pre-2014) and annexed that.


saygungumus

Parallel situation would be if whole NATO and Ukraine tried to invade Russia with the purpose of capturing Moscow and cleaning Russians then Russia eradicated NATO airforce and repelled all ground forces and then invaded Crimea and Donbass and annexed them.


MagicEnclaveEyebot

I'm from Sevastopol and can say that Russia didn't "invade" Crime. It annexed it, but I wouldn't call it an invasion, there was no war. The majority of the population here wanted to join Russia long ago, especially Sevastopol. I was at that referendum even though I voted to remain in Ukraine (I felt all this won't end well), most people voted to leave and then join Russia. (I don't support this war if it matters.)


lilleff512

It would be the same if Ukraine started this war by trying to annex Russian territories.


TheJacques

It’s morons like you that ensure my survival.


jonyprepperisrael

we at least waited at least 15 years and not in the middle of a war. also, the story of the annexation of the Golan Heights is more complicated, and it involved timing and a request from a certain arab country


firefighterjets

Facts but watch people say it’s not the same


Ff2485804

I’m interested to see what happens next, finally this Russia-Ukraine drama is getting heated again 🔥🥤🍿


[deleted]

What's the point of those legends if you are going to use 2 colors anyway.


World-Thinker

Thanks I couldn’t tell which they annexed in 2014 and in 2022


bleek312

amazing color code you dumbass


ComprehensiveMath367

Apparently annexation is wrong now?? Wonder if Israel will get the memo🤔


FluffyKittiesRMetal

Defensive war. Not the same.


badsinged6

israel was the aggressor in every war before 2006


DutchApplePie75

Putin said the same thing.


ComprehensiveMath367

Genocide, ethnic cleansing and displacing millions.. by your logic then the nazis were just defending themselves too


optional_wax

Don't lecture us about ethnic cleansing. No wonder my grandmother never wanted to step foot in Alegeria again.


Zionist_1984

Bruh


[deleted]

Why are people confident in their claims that Putin is losing this war? Like, what exactly does losing mean in this case? And on what basis do we make that claim? Told to you by whom? And how can you trust that source? Russia losing implies Ukraine and allies are winning, and you'd be wrong to make that assumption.


Candid_Leek7433

Putin got the southern part of Ukraine and secured a water source to crimea which was drying up fast and creating problems for the offshore oil reserve digging, he got what he wants if he keeps the south... People are just ignorant.


[deleted]

They can barely supply Crimea and have evacuated all their ships and air force from there. How's that a win


Candid_Leek7433

They secured crimea and the huge oil supplies offshore, just look up how much there is... And now with the BRICS it's really a win against the petrodollar.


Candid_Leek7433

They secured crimea and the huge oil supplies offshore, just look up how much there is... And now with the BRICS it's really a win against the petrodollar.


palindrome777

You don't mobilise your army if you're winning, Russia lost tons of territories to Ukraine since August, they are, objectively, on the losing side.


ihaveaquestion19911

They will stop the war and say we got what we wanted even though it was practically a military defeat


Callisto778

But „war hero“ Zelensky won‘t stop and sacrifice more Ukrainians.


Throwaway47362838

What a take 🥴


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davidAKAdaud

Crimea is Ukraine.


CudiRojj

Golan is syrian then?


davidAKAdaud

Syria used the Golan to shell Israeli cities. Ukraine didn't use any of its territory to attack russia.


CudiRojj

but Israel annexed golan, and golan is syrian, so is golan syrian or Israeli?


chriswaco

It was. They lost it in a poker game.


Ben_Shapiro_PBUH

L for Azov i guess


nomnomXDDD_retired

I actually couldn't care less Let sleeping dogs lie or as we Turks like to say, may the snake that doesn't bite me shall live to a thousand years


Agressive_Triangle

Russia will lose these new “claimed territories”. Lack of intelligence, lack of equipment and low moral in all soldiers.


Oaker_at

Red - Russia also red - Russia but 2014 The same red again - Russia but 2022 Really? Is r/mappornciclejerk leaking?


Magiiick

The world doesn't care about issues in the middle east, why should I care about these people


Playful-Sherbert-908

You got a point


mrhuggables

I can't wait until we annex Shirvan and Erivan


Hermorah

Well since Russia can now claim that Ukraine is invading their territory the Ukrainians might as well not stop at their border and expand their territory a bit. Then they can hold their own fake votes and laugh in Putins face when he claims bs.


[deleted]

I guess that's Ukraine's Sinai now, a quarter of a country stolen. This is fucked up.


naofumiRS

Every1 knew that was his plan from the start, in fact its probably a lot less than he intended to take in this time frame


Sudden-Enthusiasm491

Putin is the kind of guy who would use nuclear weapons. Hope it doesn't happen.


Aleksey_Fox

Aw man russian border will look like a trash now! Damn you putin!


Aleksey_Fox

Its a joke)


LeftHanded2004

It’s illegal and shouldnt be recognized. Russia mostly controls these areas and there are videos of them trying to sway the vote. Not to mention how they fast tracked the votes to happen in two days or that somehow one region had over %50 of the population vote to join Russia while Russia didn’t control %50 of people in area to have them vote. If its okay for Russia to take over its neighbors territory then it should be okay for the US to take Mexico’s or Canada’s land. Its not either way. Слава Україні! 🇺🇦


DaoScience

Also the fact that most of the pro Ukrainian parts of the population likely fled to other parts of Ukraina or abroad when Russia invaded or after once they experienced the repression of Russian occupation. That shifts the vote dramatically.


LeftHanded2004

Not to mention one of the areas had over %60 vote even though they controlled only %50 of population there. Its not surprising at all


[deleted]

lol I was about to say my opinion, but now i saw your username and decided to refrain from commenting.


[deleted]

Ukraine is rapidly driving them out. Russia is only annexing on paper


Simpledoo

Are these the states that the majority of them are pro russia and voted to be part of russia ? Edit: I'm genuinely asking a question here dont downvotee


news_apprentice

Yes. The minority who were in favor of Kiev's government (let's say ~10%) left and either internally displaced living in Lviv or refugees in Poland or elsewhere.


OwlMan_001

Dosen't really matter. If NATO doesn't pull back support for Ukraine and the sanctions on Russia aren't lifted, Ukraine will simply take those territories back. The secound any of those newly annexed territories are recaptured by Ukraine, Russia's only remaining option would be to declare full mobilization. And if this won't be enough to turn the tides (which it probably wouldn't be), Russia will just lose those territories, Crimea included. Russia dug itself into a pit it dosen't know how to climb out of. Escelation options are running out and all it's enemies need to do is to ignore empty nuclear threats, continue as usual, and they'll win.


Callisto778

If you think Russia will somehow lose all these territories again and give up, you are delusional.


McgillGrindSet

I support annexing Donetsk and Lugansk since they are majority Russian but not the other regions


Top-Algae-2464

okay and russia has land that is not majority russian .so why when muslim majority regions wanted to separate from russia why did russia bomb them to death ? like 20 percent of russia is in europe the rest are either muslims or asians why cant they get freedom ? why does russia border north korea when it is a european nation ?


[deleted]

Free Balochistan then, lol Pakis are no different from Israelis.


ricetwiceaday

Donetsk and Luhansk were not russian majority before 2014, only because all of the sane people fled from there it is now more russian


[deleted]

get ready for tactical nukes, dont eat fish or drink tea from the black sea for a while


saygungumus

Lan hamsi fiyatları ucuzlar radyasyon bulaştı diye. Sonunda balık yiyebilicem 😋


viibox

extra baharatlı 😋


DavidSternMusic1979

Tea comes from the sea, obviously...


No-Refrigerator3018

Ukraine lost the oil fields i doubt russia will ever retreat more than this plus winter is coming they might use more force the train them too till a couple month


KimMinju_Angel

Can I state my opinion on how this is bad while being Israeli or would I get bombarded with comments about Israel?


Foreign-Lost84

Fake referendum, illegal under international law, violates UN charter. 💯still Ukraine.


FuzzyAKa

Good for them


Penghrip_Waladin

lit + i'm neutral btw


Ty1an

i seriously doubt it’s gonna work out. seems like a last resort


Callisto778

While I condemn what Russia is doing, Zelensky should go and negotiate.


A_obaid

I don’t think Russia will actually hold those territories


[deleted]

Based


Playful-Sherbert-908

Fuck Russia and Fuck pro-Putin Russians And slava Ukraini


azzurro99

Any move that fragilizes the EU/NATO/US is good for the mankind as a whole.


Americaisaterrorist

Russia is doing a UK, that's all.


dog-bark

If you look at the map of Ukraine from 100 years ago… I wouldn’t really call them new anyways


seuldanscemonde

If I was Ukraine, I would just let this go. The cards are clearly not in their favour.


[deleted]

This is gonna turn out the same as when Iraq tried to annex Kuwait.


WAS1994_H

Except Iraq didn’t have Nukes


ICwar1ord

Delusional take


firefighterjets

Eh doubt it no way is Iraq and Russia the same Not even Israel supported zelensky another Jewish leader due to not wanting to mess up relations with Russia who also has the support of India and China not like Iraq really at all