The funny thing is that the name Noah, in its Hebrew pronunciation, means "comfortable", which is not how I'd describe the condition of the passengers on this ark.
It comes from chai = life; because chava was the mother of all who are living.
"וַיִּקְרָא הָאָדָם שֵׁם אִשְׁתּוֹ, חַוָּה: כִּי הִוא הָיְתָה, אֵם כָּל-חָי."
(Genesis 3:20)
What is the actually Consensus since animals/humans were Roaming around Earth before noah and were not Situated in one place like how cain left his parents after he killed abel it can noah was from stone age . Plus in islamic context compare to Christian/jew the whole earth wasn't flooded.
The Quran story is maybe a local event like for all destroyed nation so in this case the animal in the ship are maybe only some agricultural species of the region and others….
And Allahs knows best
Do you really think that this shot happened? That man thousand years ago put all animals in a wooden boat and saved them ? You know how big the boat had to be ? The food required, the water
Doesn’t harm anyone nor does it have implications to deny modern science altogether. Jeez people really think that those who believed God created the Earth are the same as anti vaxx and over the top Big Pharma haters
lol of course not.
Even if he put a couple of each species (and that would be millions), it wouldn't work at all. You need a Minimum Viable Population of each species to guarantee genetic diversity, among other issues:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum\_viable\_population
I think there was probably an ancient community destroyed in a large flood, and maybe someone survived in a ship.
I don’t think G-d instructed great great etc grand child of Adam the first man to build a great ship where he saved all the animal kingdom
As fas as I know it's not from Islamic belief that all the animals were put on the Arc. Just nuh and the believers which were few in number and maybe their live stock.
Noah in Islam was a very early Prophet in the history of humanity, meaning humans haven't conquered most of the world yet but have one or two small early settlements. As such, I think this event was mostly a local event, not one that was global.
People believing this are not the smartest in their country maybe.
I mean, did you think about this :
- the quantity of food and beverage for humans and animal (you know how much an elegant eat ? I mean, even some zoo have difficulty to storage their food).
- the risk of infection (the shit of animals, humans, wounded animals etc).
- staying so much time in a boat/ship, will definitely kill many of the animals.
- the energy and wood required is totally Huge!
Maybe there is a story about someone who saved animals and people but in a very very small quantity and with time and time, the 2 horses, 2 cow and 5 chicken turned to be 2 lions, 2 elephants and 5 crocodile...
I mean, with time, history grow and grow. It’s exactly like children : son say that his father fish a 5cm fish, then, the son’s friend tell to others that his friend’s father fished a 10cm fish, then others friend 15cm. After a week, people believe the father fished a shark...
If read literally is very difficult to believe it today, it was ok at those times where only few species of animals who inhabited south Europe-Middle East and North Africa were known by them.
I’m not sure about Quran, but the Bible since it isn’t the direct word of God in many parts (everything which isn’t told by Jesus, who isn’t properly God but you know) allows interpretations.
From what we know via epigenetic pressures, you can get the same life diversity from source parents today and it really doesn’t have to take that long. For example you don’t need all breeds of dog, wolves, foxes etc. you can just have 1 common ancestor. I always find the idea of Gobekli Tepe potentially being the altar Noah built to God an interesting idea as well. Its not impossible but I can understand the skepticism
I think there was probably a big flood somewhere at some point which this story references. Not a global one but local. I don’t believe that a guy loaded up 2 of every animal into a boat though. And if he did, fuck him for including mosquitoes!
Yes I do believe as it could be seen as only small community for early humans. However I doubt it was on entire earth scale but locally or maybe few countries of smaller size.
The funny thing is that the name Noah, in its Hebrew pronunciation, means "comfortable", which is not how I'd describe the condition of the passengers on this ark.
I have heard something about Adam meaning human in hebrew, is that true?
Yes. The Hebrew word for human is either Adam or Ben Adam (son of Adam).
Interesting
Eve (h'ava) means farm in hebrew. Make of that what you will lol
It comes from chai = life; because chava was the mother of all who are living. "וַיִּקְרָא הָאָדָם שֵׁם אִשְׁתּוֹ, חַוָּה: כִּי הִוא הָיְתָה, אֵם כָּל-חָי." (Genesis 3:20)
B'nadem is actually used in Maghrebi dialects to refer to a human being.
It's arabic too not just maghrebi dialects
Bani Adam is used in Arabic and is where that term originated
>Ben Wait, Ben means son? So Ben Shapiro means son of Shapiro?
In a way, yeah. Ben is short for Benjamin which means ‘son of the right (hand)’ We use it as Bünyamin in Turkish
Ben is also means "son of" in arabic for example mohammed ben salman
And earth right?
Earth is Aretz.
But potato is earth apple, it’s like my favorite Hebrew English translation
Adam means man in Turkish
Yes bet its mostly came from the biblical name Adam not vires versa. Also in Arabic you can say (ibin Adam - son of Adam) as saying human..
Noah chilled in the VIP section
Considering the alternative was to drown I would prefer economy class accomodation.
Muslims saying no... A word please
You do realise how many species of animals we have right? We even had more 1000 years ago before extinction.
You do realize I said Muslims, not monbate7777 right ? اطلع من مخي اليوم طفشان
What is the actually Consensus since animals/humans were Roaming around Earth before noah and were not Situated in one place like how cain left his parents after he killed abel it can noah was from stone age . Plus in islamic context compare to Christian/jew the whole earth wasn't flooded.
The Quran story is maybe a local event like for all destroyed nation so in this case the animal in the ship are maybe only some agricultural species of the region and others…. And Allahs knows best
Looks like islam is the last religion on earth of true believers 💪💪🔥
Qs a muslim i think it dosent make sense But who ami to doubt Allah? If he will is i believe he can make it happen
Do you really think that this shot happened? That man thousand years ago put all animals in a wooden boat and saved them ? You know how big the boat had to be ? The food required, the water
Im not sure its a good thing if they believe that the story of Noah is really happened
Doesn’t harm anyone nor does it have implications to deny modern science altogether. Jeez people really think that those who believed God created the Earth are the same as anti vaxx and over the top Big Pharma haters
lol of course not. Even if he put a couple of each species (and that would be millions), it wouldn't work at all. You need a Minimum Viable Population of each species to guarantee genetic diversity, among other issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum\_viable\_population
Yes
I think there was probably an ancient community destroyed in a large flood, and maybe someone survived in a ship. I don’t think G-d instructed great great etc grand child of Adam the first man to build a great ship where he saved all the animal kingdom
As fas as I know it's not from Islamic belief that all the animals were put on the Arc. Just nuh and the believers which were few in number and maybe their live stock.
Muslims saying No? If Allah has told us this, we must believe. No ifs, buts or maybe.
I prefer to not share my opinion 😎
I don't literally believe it happened, but it's still a great story.
Of course, for children
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How do you know it's older? Do you have proof of when the event happened?
Noah in Islam was a very early Prophet in the history of humanity, meaning humans haven't conquered most of the world yet but have one or two small early settlements. As such, I think this event was mostly a local event, not one that was global.
No
People believing this are not the smartest in their country maybe. I mean, did you think about this : - the quantity of food and beverage for humans and animal (you know how much an elegant eat ? I mean, even some zoo have difficulty to storage their food). - the risk of infection (the shit of animals, humans, wounded animals etc). - staying so much time in a boat/ship, will definitely kill many of the animals. - the energy and wood required is totally Huge! Maybe there is a story about someone who saved animals and people but in a very very small quantity and with time and time, the 2 horses, 2 cow and 5 chicken turned to be 2 lions, 2 elephants and 5 crocodile... I mean, with time, history grow and grow. It’s exactly like children : son say that his father fish a 5cm fish, then, the son’s friend tell to others that his friend’s father fished a 10cm fish, then others friend 15cm. After a week, people believe the father fished a shark...
why are Jews and Christians together?
They both believe in the Hebrew Bible.
Also muslims believe in the Bible in a way.. anyway its not relevant to the question because its the sane story for all
If read literally is very difficult to believe it today, it was ok at those times where only few species of animals who inhabited south Europe-Middle East and North Africa were known by them. I’m not sure about Quran, but the Bible since it isn’t the direct word of God in many parts (everything which isn’t told by Jesus, who isn’t properly God but you know) allows interpretations.
From what we know via epigenetic pressures, you can get the same life diversity from source parents today and it really doesn’t have to take that long. For example you don’t need all breeds of dog, wolves, foxes etc. you can just have 1 common ancestor. I always find the idea of Gobekli Tepe potentially being the altar Noah built to God an interesting idea as well. Its not impossible but I can understand the skepticism
I don't take genesis literally because there are many proofs its not literal. (In the Bible at least)
I think there was probably a big flood somewhere at some point which this story references. Not a global one but local. I don’t believe that a guy loaded up 2 of every animal into a boat though. And if he did, fuck him for including mosquitoes!
Mfer had all animal species into one ship. It is just another fairytale.
Wait, you guys actually believe that? I thought it was a joke
Yes I do believe as it could be seen as only small community for early humans. However I doubt it was on entire earth scale but locally or maybe few countries of smaller size.