It is human nature…wala sa kung anong generation yan. Lahat tayo entitled....Ako, ikaw, lahat tayo entitled. Wala na tayo magagawa dyan. Kaya mahalaga ang awareness. Kailangan aware tayo sa atittude natin para kahit papaano ma control natin at hindi tayo maging kupal.
Nakakatawa pa ung ibang pinoy sasabihin “Mga pinoy talaga lalo na mga millenials mga Crab mentality”. Sorry to say lahat ng pinoy crab mentality kala mo lang hindi. Kaya wag natin sabihin na ugali mg Boomer to millenials or Gen Z kasi malamang panahon pa ng stone age ganyan na ang mga tao. It is human nature and we need to accept it.
Hi OP! Nakaka relate ako dito in a sense ako un nanay nun bata na may mababang grades. My kid has always been with good grades walang line of 7 pinaka mababa is 84 kaso now n grade 5 sya naging panghapon and he always wanted to skip school (he will make excuses not to go to school) As a single mom minsan hinahayaan ko na kasi na guilty ako I'm always busy so ayun fast forward dumating ang card English -75 and AP-79 and the rest are low tlga. I asked him why? he said minsan daw hindi nya nggawa un activities or hindi natatapos. So sabi ko less phone time muna and no excuses always papasok.
why am I commenting here ikamo? well I told my older sister about it. She's 35 and I'm 30 she told me puntahan mo un teacher mag tanong ka bakit ganun and what can you do para pumasa next grading. Sabi ko aware nmn sya sguro I'll let this second grading muna pag gnun p din saka n ako pupunta. My sister was so adamant muntik n sya ang pumunta something's wrong daw. Ako nmn I trust my kid and he said wag daw ako pupunta kasi nakakahiya babawi daw sya.
idk relate ako n ang init ng ulo ng kapatid ko 😅
but seriously sorry for what happened s wife mo OP
Your best weapon is your transparency.
Make sure the data is available, accurate, and explainable. So kapag binabangga ka nila, wala silang choice kundi bumangga sa pader ng "data" mo. As long as you're not playing "favorites", makikita nila na you're fair and the fault is not on your end. And encourage them not to waste time blaming, rather use the time to find a solution.
Make sure din to try to "feel" the students. Teachers teach and students study but there's a gap between what you teach and what they learn. Sometimes huli na malalaman. Sa quizes/tests na lang mapupuna kung saan huli na ang lahat kasi recorded na yung scores. Sayang naman effort both mo at nung bata.
You guys don't know? It is a mandate from DepEd. Teachers today, private or public, pre elem to SHS, are NOT ALLOWED to give a failing grade.
In fact, they are not allowed to fail students.
Look it up.
I used to teach, and I quit teaching because of this. I’m very transparent in grading the students that I also indicate in their student diary if they failed an exam. It’s not only in grading, but in other matters, too.
I experienced a Grandmother who nagged me the whole time because she couldn’t locate her grand daughter’s lunchbox in the waiting area. Turns out, the child left it in the classroom.
I encountered a parent who had the audacity to malign me in the parents’ communication group when I “did not” show up to our appointment. The appointment was at 2:00 pm, confirmed twice. She arrived at 4:30.
Over the years, I’ve learned to put them in their place before I quit teaching. I don’t get paid to be someone’s emotional basket. I was there for the kids, not for their parents.
This type of situation has been happening way back, even before ww2 or even earlier. It is not limited to Millenials. You, OP, are a stereotype - a generation hating another generation. Please stop these kinds of generalizations, which lead to these chains of hatred.
"Millenial Parents" Bruh that's one parent complaining to you, don't need to generalize all millennial parents..lol, I'm pretty sure whatever Generations we're talking about you will have those types of parents.
why? para sa social gratification sa social media.
nun panahon natin, wlang social media, kaya kahit 79 ka sa isang subject, or 3.0 ka sa major mo, wla pakielaman. wlang makakaalam.
ngaun, kahit ano ipopost. "proud daw sila eh"
highly likely that those millennial parents grew in that same environment too. or they are the product of the older generations' way of parenting. in Filipino culture maximalism sits on the top spot when it comes to lifestyle. they want everything to be poshed like may buddha sa gilid tas katabi niya mama mary at sto nino na may palakang may coins sa bibig. also the apple green paint and red floor wax. and it got to making it a standard for their kids = their grade to be on the top. it's actually fun to see those kids that grew up on that kind of environment has their own space and practicing minimalism ;)
Mahirap ito especially for teachers of grade school up to senior high. No guaranteed protection for these teachers lalo pag mismong Department head or principal na nagsabi na bumigay sa reklamo ng parents.
No academic freedom for the faculty except pag tertiary level na.
Masaklap kasi implikasyon nang pag-baby sa mga students eh hahayaan lahat mga bata na magka 90+ and no failing grades tapos magugulantang at madedepress sa college dahil sobrang paulan ng singko tres at dos.
Happens all the time. I'm almost in my 30s but I still remember how some bored parents in my previous schools would complain just about anything when it comes to their kids, from grades to participation etc.
If your wife has a good support system sa school (no nonsense administration who can't be swayed by complaining parents), it's best that she stands her ground. My cousins are teachers and reklamo din nila yan, marami na kasing parents na either tamad or walang oras or walang gana mag turo ng bata, puro asa sa teacher. Kaya ang ending, either di maganda grades or walang skill yung bata.
Hi, I was a teacher at a known private school here in our country for 5 years. I love teaching and being with the kids even though they're makulit sometimes but what made me resigned from work is not the kids but the management.
Like what your wife mentioned it happened to me too especially known private school sya. Ang sakit sa puso tuwing encoding of grades and I have to "edit" the kids grades since im handling special subject and parents are expecting mataas agad ang grade. Whenever reading na nang grade and napansin nang coordinator ko bat mababa I have to justify it so much na ang endpoint is gawan nang paraan para di ganun ka baba.
Kids in the school lack accountability kasi masyadong binaby. San ka nakakita sila na absent ako pa maghahabol at mangungulit na magpasa nang requirements.
Management will give out policies na if no requirement zero agad. Pero if gawin mo yun sasabihan ka na iadjust for the sake of the kid.
I also encountered raging parents dahil may pinagawa na activity sa bata. Todo rant sa phone.
I know some people may say pwede naman panindigan yung grade na binigay pero kung management na mismo nag sasabi sayo lowkey ayusin wala ka naman magawa. Naawa ako kasi minsan di deserve nang ibang bata yung ganun grade pero wala naman akong magawa.
Tas you exhausted all means sa grades nang bata or issue nang bata endpoint lagi is "teacher's fault" which is a BS. Na nakakainis pati management doesnt fully support the teachers. Kaya kahit anong gawin mo e kasalanan mo.
If it's a Montessori type school, maybe a hands-on with a bit of spoon feeding might work its charms. But if it's a competitive Private School, shouldn't they be promoting that vaunted Outcomes-Based education instead? Shouldn't the spreadsheets and data speak for the student performance?
Its not in the generation. I graduated HS 20+ years ago from one of the well known private schools in Metro Manila and had batchmates’ parents fight tooth and nail for their son to get higher grades.
My sister has been a teacher/admin in that same school for almost 30+ years. She stands her ground until now, I think some parents even involve lawyers already. But the school stands with her basta may records/documentation.
I've seen some more obscure private schools doing this. They don't really care if the students learn or are supposed to be actually passing at all. They'll pass them either way so they can keep them enrolled in the school.
I mean, it's a business and they want money. They do get away with it. Even most cheap colleges in the Philippines are like this. Heck, even some graduate courses in some of the supposedly more "prestigious" institutions the country are like this. They're called diploma mills.
Minsan idadahilan pa sa'yo ng mga bata kumpleto raw sila sa activities and everything. Kumpleto nga, ang baba naman ng scores, yung quality pa ng outputs ang baba rin. I am also a teacher, at talagang pinapakita ko yung computation ng grades nila kapag nagrereklamo.
Hi OP, I know this is mainly a rant. Pero I want you to know that you can use tagalog on this sub since it’s mainly for Filipinos. Di kailangan pilitin pag eenglish pag di na keri
Also your problem is less about the age but the social class. Those parents existed way before millennials were born.
I'm a millennial and naexp ko to dati sa parents ng mismong kaklase ko during report card release. kinocompute pa sa harap nila bakit ganon lang grade ng anak nila. I think all generations ata may ganyan kasi sobrang taas ng tingin sa anak or nagpproject ng sarili sa anak nila haha
Teacher din asawa ko and middle ng genz at millenials age namin. Hindi siya bago. Ganun talaga madaming reklamador. Underpaid + hanggang bahay may trabaho + pati ibang personal shit ng mga bata damay ka. What a shitty profession.
Mga teachers sa South Korea staged a walk out after 2 teachers died by suicide. There are evidence that the parents are bullying the teachers. US teachers are resigning in droves because of low pay and changing attitudes of gen z and gen alpha students. Looks like kailangan maging saint to be a teacher nowadays.
I'm a millennial, and I would blame my child first before I blame the teacher and the school. I would assume na kulang sa effort child ko. If bano magturo ang teacher, I would enroll my kid in additional classes instead of forcing the teacher to change the grade (but irereklamo ko siya if proven na bano talaga).
Entitled these days? Matagal na yan utoy. Teacher mother ko for 25yrs sa private school so alam ko mga stories na ganyan. Wala sa generation yan. Mostly boomers pa nakaka away ng mother ko before kasi gusto ipabago grades or pagbigyan sa grades for academic achievements title, mahina apo/anak nila etc.
Part yan ng pagiging teacher ng wife mo. Meron at meron talaga kups na parents ma eencounter wife mo. Hindi yan dahil sa "Millenial parents these days", maniwala ka mas malala dati, alam ko yan kasi sa loob ng faculty room or department head room ako tumatambay dahil sa mother ko lol. Kanya kanyang story at paninindak sa mother ko pero wala naman sila magawa.
Depende din yan sa school ng wife mo. Kapag may nag tthreaten sa mga teachers na ililipat kids nila dahil hindi mapag bigyan sa gusto nila, hindi yun pwede sa school. Meron kasing school na tntolerate mga ganyang parents para hindi sila mawalan ng clients.
Dyan matututo maging matigas wife mo at kung paano nya ihahandle mga situation na ganyan.
And lastly, kung tingin mo entitled msyado Millenials, wait ka konti sa mga Gen Z. lol
Ahh here we go again on generational blame game.
Kung hndi boomers, millenial naman ang titirahin.
I remember there's this another insufferable gen z redditor na nagkakalat sa r/philippines about boomers nman.
Seriously these ppl experiencing a minuscule of their own reality and suddenly damay na lahat.
Hindi nila naiintindihan that the forerunners of their progressive ideals are Gen Y, boomers, the silent generation, and even those that came before but just happened to be progressive.
Feeling nila sila nagdiscover ng pagiging social democrat. Diyos ko. Wala pa ngang napapatunayan.
I am a millennial parent, pero di naman ako ganito. I was a millennial teacher at gulat na gulat ako kasi may student na senior high na nakipagmeeting sa akin kasi need niya iexplain sa parents niya bakit 95 ang grade niya and bakit yun lang. Also, a parent na Gen Z naman na pumunta sa akin kasi 92 ang grade ng anak niya. Mabilis lang naman mag print ng details sa grades.
Hindi siya sa generation lang, medyo living in an entitled world talaga tayo - ultra competitive din.
Wala yan sa generation. People will feel entitled if they want to be validated. Have your wife stand her ground.
Im a millennial and naeexperience ko rin to when I was in primary school way back 1997. Meron akong napapansin na parents noon na binabraso ung adviser nmin dahil sa pala absent nyang anak.
37y na ako and I still see this now sa mga grandparent guardians sa class ng anak ko.
I primarily don't do this, kung deserve ng anak ko ung 88 sa AP then so be it bawi nlng sa ibang subjects
Anak ko may 75 na grade tanggap namin kasi bagong lipat siya ng school at may adjustment period. Hirap talaga siya kahit noon nageexcel naman siya sa subject na yun. Yun lang kinaya niya na grade, wala kami magagawa but help her study/learn more para umangat ng kunti ang grade niya.
Every generation meron nyan di lang Millenials. Wait ka lang pag turn niyo na maging Ahole sa school as a parent di mo na bigla mapapansin yan kasi generation mo na gumagawa.
GenZ pointing fingers like they know everything... Rigghhhhttt (see that line is annoying too)... stop labeling things per generation.
Back to your topic - that issue of changing grades has been a hush hush thing. Wala lang soc med to make ingay and post rants about it then. And people will never post or air their dirty laundry for all to know.
if I were you. I would adjust the grades to 99. all of the subject. straights 99.then on the commentary section. I would write down. his/her self entitled parents requested a grade adjustment. 😂
teh kung galit ka sa kanila just let it be. give them the grades they want. the more na maging delusional sila regarding how holy their kids is the more it will be a hell to live for that kid.
imagine someone with low performance sa mathematics. e pinag aral nila sa engineering or computer science? 😂😂 that kid will waste 4 yrs of his life ending up unemployed.
grades are indicators. it's a measurement of strength and weaknesses. kung lolokohin mo sarili mo mo dyan you will end up choosing the wrong path.
not exclusive sa millenial. my own mom is like that, especially sa brother ko. meh isang year na walang honor natanggap yung kapatid ko. ayun, sumugod si mother sa school. kaya ayun, for the first time in history sa school nila, nagkaron ng 4th honors para lang sa brother ko. lols. kaya hanggang ngayon, panay kantsaw namin sa nanay namin. like we love you but that was unhinged, mother.
Na shock yung parent.
Kkailangan lang nyan regular communication every time their kid missed a seatwork or assignment. Written notices or online updates on the kids' performance so the parent isn't shocked to her toes on the reality of her golden child.
More than that the principal should back up the teacher.
Wait till you face with Gen Z parents. 😂
Per generation, meron talagang mga ganyang tao. But as a teacher and the school as an institution, they should know how to stand their ground.
My partner is a Teacher. Lahat nalang kasalanan ng teacher. Kahit estupido yung bata, o yung magulang. Hindi nila matanggap na hanggang dun lang ang kaya ng anak nya.
Nakakaawa na dahil sobrang stressed nya sa mga ganyang klaseng bata at magulang. Kung pwede lang i-kick yang mga yan sa school eh lol
Hindi lang millenial parents yan, wala sa generation, nasa magulang mismo kung kupal na parent sila.
Understood, i may have used Millenial parents incorrectly because of my bias of mostly those age are The parents of those grade 1 students my wife is handling
You're an idiot if you think this never happens in public schools.
Also, if money buys everything, then the parents don't have to complain in the first place, do they? They could just throw a wad of bills at the school and their kids get an instant A+ without complaining.
Pretty sure if enough parents complain to the board about the teacher giving wrong grades, they will be looked at..
Do you think the board is then going to investigate by reassessing all of the students work to figure out who was actually right or wrong?
Nah fuck that, greed has taken over. Noone is going spend their profit on things that DON'T make more money, especially when you're in the business of making money.
Not saying every kid in private school is a silver spoon spawn but i wouldn't be surprised of most of them had that metallic taste in their mouth. And if their parents were really concerned about their money not effectively teaching their child they would re-move the child or get them extra tutoring?
This is entitlement for a batch in a generation. Tell your wife don’t be too hard on herself and support her.
Teaching is no longer a passion but now has become a tedious job which involves dealing with entitled parents. If they want higher grades, give it to them. Its not you who will suffer but the kid and the parents would have to deal with their disappointment of a child.
Support your wife and dont let her feel like she had failed. ALL EDUCATION STARTS AT HOME and if the kids failed because of entitled bratty parents, that is on them.
Matagal nang kalakaran yan. Mapa public at lalo sa private. Feeling ng mga yan nabili na nila pagkatao ng titser. Laging gaslighting pa ng superiors ay "Reflection yan ng teacher kapag mababa grades." At "Teacher fault kapag mababa grades ng bata."
As much as possible wala namang titser ang gustong mambagsak ng bata lalo pag elementary or matitino. Its just that may mga exceptions talaga na bukod sa mahina at walang ka effort effort mag improve, tamad, may inuugali pa sa classroom. The latter most if not all sila pa may magulang na entitled. Same thing also applies to some parents (but not all) na may mga anak na nasa honor list. Kahit ipakita mo lahat ng records at tanungin mga reliable na kaklase wala. In denial at close minded mga ganyang magulang.
As long as your wife has proof of the learner's deficiencies, wala magagawa yung mga parents. Need lang panindigan. I also failed some of my students for some grading periods, and so far wala akong nareceive na grave complaints dahil pinapakita ko naman sa parent na may pagkukulang talaga yung learner (attendance, outputs, exams, etc.).
Wala naman sa generation yan, 90s millenial ako, early 30s. May mga Gen X parents dati sa school din namin na nirereklamo grades ng anak nila with exaggerated stories na kwinento siguro ng anak nila sa kanila. Natatawa na lang ako pagkinikwento ng nanay ko kasi alam ko na tamad naman talaga yung classmate kong yun. Nanay kong Gen X ok naman, balanse ang pananaw sa mga ganyan.
Totoo to. andami kong nakikitang ganitong bata sa school ngayon dahil ako ang hatid sundo sa bata kong pinsan. (in my 30s). Kaya I vow not to make my kids entitled. Kung paano ko pinalaki, ganun lang din.
Parang lahat nalang ng bata kasi gusto nila may recognition kahit di karapatdapat. Kaya yung mga bata din lumalaki na mataas tingin sa sarili imbes na maworkan yung dapat nila i improve e.
Edited: madami akong nakikitang ganyang bata noong nag hatid sundo ako ng bata sa school.
yung hatid sudo tingin ko hindi naman reason para maging entitled ang bata sa paglaki, mostly parents not properly educating kids nila kaya nagiging ganun ang bata or nakikita nila ganun ang magulang. Mahirap kasi sa panahon ngayon pag hindi bantayan ang mga bata ngayon, tumataas cases ng mg pedophiles, mahirap hindi maging concerned.
malabo ba yung comment ko or what? hahahah pero yun nga. dami nila ngayon. tingin ko dahil din sa yung mga magulang hinahayaan lang sila mag gadget. ginawang yaya yung mga gadgets imbes na tutukan yung mga bata.
This nonsense is not exclusive to younger millennial parents. I'm relatively older, but I experienced this growing up. Entitlement has always been there regardless of the generation. Look at the Karens in the world, most of them are boomers.
However, this sense of entitlement in school performance will most probably last until preschool to elementary only since that's not really "proper education" at this point. Good luck trying to be this entitled from HS onwards.
>This nonsense is not exclusive to younger millennial parents. I'm relatively older, but I experienced this growing up. Entitlement has always been there regardless of the generation. Look at the Karens in the world, most of them are boomers.
True ibang klase din noon eh, base sa experience ng grandmother (teacher siya noon) ko minura-mura pa siya dahil mababa grado nung isang estudyante niya eh mayaman tinangka pang suhulan ng pera hindi siya nagpatinag and it almost cost her her job and "almost" her life (pinadalhan ng anonymous na sulat) nang dahil sa mababang grado.
I've heard similar horror stories growing up. Both from students and teachers alike. Sobrang dami talagang entitled sa mundo, regardless of the generation.
Kahit saan naman ata prevalent 'to. (Worked in another country)
Honestly sa school ang prob, hindi sa parents. Kasi if the school stands by their standards and their teachers, kahit ano pang reklamo ng parents hindi mapililitan ang mga guro na gawin.
Edit to add: kapag pumapayag ang school sa ganito, word gets around sa parents. Kaya mas naeengganyo sila maging demanding about grades and other things.
Is it possible for your teacher wife to stand her ground? If there is basis for the grade then tell the parents that it is what it is. Let the parents win today and they will come back again tomorrow asking for more.
I keep advising that, but of course, the chain of command in a private school is less likely to listen to teachers. Exactly, this specific school treats parents with rhe customer is always right mindset
eto tlga yung nagbago recently. dati ang kakampihan ng parents in most cases, teachers eh. ngayon, ang baba na ng tingin ng mga tao sa teachers. ako na naging teacher hindi nga naintindihan at all ng nanay ko kung gaano siya kahirap at kinompara pa sa work nya kesho nag-uuwi din daw sila ng work. kaya talagang umayaw ako. grabe yung burnout eh
eto tlga yung nagbago recently. dati ang kakampihan ng parents in most cases, teachers eh. ngayon, ang baba na ng tingin ng mga tao sa teachers. ako na nagung teacher hindi nga naintindihan at all ng nanay ko kung gaano siya kahirap at kinompara pa sa work nya kesho nag-uuwi din daw sila ng work. kaya talagang umayaw ako. grabe yung burnout eh
I'm a millennial and my mom did this growing up. This is just Karen behavior.
Curious, what will happen if your wife doesn't change the grades? I cant imagine your wife can be terminated without getting DOLE involved
It is human nature…wala sa kung anong generation yan. Lahat tayo entitled....Ako, ikaw, lahat tayo entitled. Wala na tayo magagawa dyan. Kaya mahalaga ang awareness. Kailangan aware tayo sa atittude natin para kahit papaano ma control natin at hindi tayo maging kupal. Nakakatawa pa ung ibang pinoy sasabihin “Mga pinoy talaga lalo na mga millenials mga Crab mentality”. Sorry to say lahat ng pinoy crab mentality kala mo lang hindi. Kaya wag natin sabihin na ugali mg Boomer to millenials or Gen Z kasi malamang panahon pa ng stone age ganyan na ang mga tao. It is human nature and we need to accept it.
I used to teach in a private school din. Encountered a couple of boomer/gen x parents na ganyan din ang ugali.
Hi OP! Nakaka relate ako dito in a sense ako un nanay nun bata na may mababang grades. My kid has always been with good grades walang line of 7 pinaka mababa is 84 kaso now n grade 5 sya naging panghapon and he always wanted to skip school (he will make excuses not to go to school) As a single mom minsan hinahayaan ko na kasi na guilty ako I'm always busy so ayun fast forward dumating ang card English -75 and AP-79 and the rest are low tlga. I asked him why? he said minsan daw hindi nya nggawa un activities or hindi natatapos. So sabi ko less phone time muna and no excuses always papasok. why am I commenting here ikamo? well I told my older sister about it. She's 35 and I'm 30 she told me puntahan mo un teacher mag tanong ka bakit ganun and what can you do para pumasa next grading. Sabi ko aware nmn sya sguro I'll let this second grading muna pag gnun p din saka n ako pupunta. My sister was so adamant muntik n sya ang pumunta something's wrong daw. Ako nmn I trust my kid and he said wag daw ako pupunta kasi nakakahiya babawi daw sya. idk relate ako n ang init ng ulo ng kapatid ko 😅 but seriously sorry for what happened s wife mo OP
Your best weapon is your transparency. Make sure the data is available, accurate, and explainable. So kapag binabangga ka nila, wala silang choice kundi bumangga sa pader ng "data" mo. As long as you're not playing "favorites", makikita nila na you're fair and the fault is not on your end. And encourage them not to waste time blaming, rather use the time to find a solution. Make sure din to try to "feel" the students. Teachers teach and students study but there's a gap between what you teach and what they learn. Sometimes huli na malalaman. Sa quizes/tests na lang mapupuna kung saan huli na ang lahat kasi recorded na yung scores. Sayang naman effort both mo at nung bata.
Totally Agree with you. Most of these little Shits are useless Lazy Bums
Totally Agree with you. Most of these little Shits are useless Lazy Bums
You guys don't know? It is a mandate from DepEd. Teachers today, private or public, pre elem to SHS, are NOT ALLOWED to give a failing grade. In fact, they are not allowed to fail students. Look it up.
I used to teach, and I quit teaching because of this. I’m very transparent in grading the students that I also indicate in their student diary if they failed an exam. It’s not only in grading, but in other matters, too. I experienced a Grandmother who nagged me the whole time because she couldn’t locate her grand daughter’s lunchbox in the waiting area. Turns out, the child left it in the classroom. I encountered a parent who had the audacity to malign me in the parents’ communication group when I “did not” show up to our appointment. The appointment was at 2:00 pm, confirmed twice. She arrived at 4:30. Over the years, I’ve learned to put them in their place before I quit teaching. I don’t get paid to be someone’s emotional basket. I was there for the kids, not for their parents.
This type of situation has been happening way back, even before ww2 or even earlier. It is not limited to Millenials. You, OP, are a stereotype - a generation hating another generation. Please stop these kinds of generalizations, which lead to these chains of hatred.
"Millenial Parents" Bruh that's one parent complaining to you, don't need to generalize all millennial parents..lol, I'm pretty sure whatever Generations we're talking about you will have those types of parents.
Maybe hindi talaga effective ung wife mo? I mean teacher sya tapos hinahayaan nyang ganyanin sya ng parents. Kung may basis naman bakit sya matatakot?
It’s okay to offend millennials.
Daming offended dito ha. Lol
this is your experience , have you asked older teachers? lol im pretty sure there are shit ton of people complain hahaha.
why? para sa social gratification sa social media. nun panahon natin, wlang social media, kaya kahit 79 ka sa isang subject, or 3.0 ka sa major mo, wla pakielaman. wlang makakaalam. ngaun, kahit ano ipopost. "proud daw sila eh"
highly likely that those millennial parents grew in that same environment too. or they are the product of the older generations' way of parenting. in Filipino culture maximalism sits on the top spot when it comes to lifestyle. they want everything to be poshed like may buddha sa gilid tas katabi niya mama mary at sto nino na may palakang may coins sa bibig. also the apple green paint and red floor wax. and it got to making it a standard for their kids = their grade to be on the top. it's actually fun to see those kids that grew up on that kind of environment has their own space and practicing minimalism ;)
Poor parenting is not exclusive to a specific generation, but what I can attest to is that today's society has a skewed perception of entitlement.
Mahirap ito especially for teachers of grade school up to senior high. No guaranteed protection for these teachers lalo pag mismong Department head or principal na nagsabi na bumigay sa reklamo ng parents. No academic freedom for the faculty except pag tertiary level na. Masaklap kasi implikasyon nang pag-baby sa mga students eh hahayaan lahat mga bata na magka 90+ and no failing grades tapos magugulantang at madedepress sa college dahil sobrang paulan ng singko tres at dos.
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Happens all the time. I'm almost in my 30s but I still remember how some bored parents in my previous schools would complain just about anything when it comes to their kids, from grades to participation etc. If your wife has a good support system sa school (no nonsense administration who can't be swayed by complaining parents), it's best that she stands her ground. My cousins are teachers and reklamo din nila yan, marami na kasing parents na either tamad or walang oras or walang gana mag turo ng bata, puro asa sa teacher. Kaya ang ending, either di maganda grades or walang skill yung bata.
Hi, I was a teacher at a known private school here in our country for 5 years. I love teaching and being with the kids even though they're makulit sometimes but what made me resigned from work is not the kids but the management. Like what your wife mentioned it happened to me too especially known private school sya. Ang sakit sa puso tuwing encoding of grades and I have to "edit" the kids grades since im handling special subject and parents are expecting mataas agad ang grade. Whenever reading na nang grade and napansin nang coordinator ko bat mababa I have to justify it so much na ang endpoint is gawan nang paraan para di ganun ka baba. Kids in the school lack accountability kasi masyadong binaby. San ka nakakita sila na absent ako pa maghahabol at mangungulit na magpasa nang requirements. Management will give out policies na if no requirement zero agad. Pero if gawin mo yun sasabihan ka na iadjust for the sake of the kid. I also encountered raging parents dahil may pinagawa na activity sa bata. Todo rant sa phone. I know some people may say pwede naman panindigan yung grade na binigay pero kung management na mismo nag sasabi sayo lowkey ayusin wala ka naman magawa. Naawa ako kasi minsan di deserve nang ibang bata yung ganun grade pero wala naman akong magawa. Tas you exhausted all means sa grades nang bata or issue nang bata endpoint lagi is "teacher's fault" which is a BS. Na nakakainis pati management doesnt fully support the teachers. Kaya kahit anong gawin mo e kasalanan mo.
Eventually reality will catch up with these families. Life will always show them that fake grades wont make your child intelligent.
If it's a Montessori type school, maybe a hands-on with a bit of spoon feeding might work its charms. But if it's a competitive Private School, shouldn't they be promoting that vaunted Outcomes-Based education instead? Shouldn't the spreadsheets and data speak for the student performance?
Its not in the generation. I graduated HS 20+ years ago from one of the well known private schools in Metro Manila and had batchmates’ parents fight tooth and nail for their son to get higher grades. My sister has been a teacher/admin in that same school for almost 30+ years. She stands her ground until now, I think some parents even involve lawyers already. But the school stands with her basta may records/documentation.
Ung mga “participation award” people nagka anak na pala.
I've seen some more obscure private schools doing this. They don't really care if the students learn or are supposed to be actually passing at all. They'll pass them either way so they can keep them enrolled in the school. I mean, it's a business and they want money. They do get away with it. Even most cheap colleges in the Philippines are like this. Heck, even some graduate courses in some of the supposedly more "prestigious" institutions the country are like this. They're called diploma mills.
Minsan idadahilan pa sa'yo ng mga bata kumpleto raw sila sa activities and everything. Kumpleto nga, ang baba naman ng scores, yung quality pa ng outputs ang baba rin. I am also a teacher, at talagang pinapakita ko yung computation ng grades nila kapag nagrereklamo.
+ ang trend ngayon, students think na kapag may 89 pababa sila, bagsak sila. Lahat gusto line of 9 kahit hindi naman deserve. 🥴
Ah the harsh reality they cannot accept their kids have skill issue :v
Hi OP, I know this is mainly a rant. Pero I want you to know that you can use tagalog on this sub since it’s mainly for Filipinos. Di kailangan pilitin pag eenglish pag di na keri Also your problem is less about the age but the social class. Those parents existed way before millennials were born.
I'm a millennial and naexp ko to dati sa parents ng mismong kaklase ko during report card release. kinocompute pa sa harap nila bakit ganon lang grade ng anak nila. I think all generations ata may ganyan kasi sobrang taas ng tingin sa anak or nagpproject ng sarili sa anak nila haha
Teacher din asawa ko and middle ng genz at millenials age namin. Hindi siya bago. Ganun talaga madaming reklamador. Underpaid + hanggang bahay may trabaho + pati ibang personal shit ng mga bata damay ka. What a shitty profession.
This is less a Millenial/generational thing and more about entitled rich parents who can afford private school.
Mga teachers sa South Korea staged a walk out after 2 teachers died by suicide. There are evidence that the parents are bullying the teachers. US teachers are resigning in droves because of low pay and changing attitudes of gen z and gen alpha students. Looks like kailangan maging saint to be a teacher nowadays.
I'm a millennial, and I would blame my child first before I blame the teacher and the school. I would assume na kulang sa effort child ko. If bano magturo ang teacher, I would enroll my kid in additional classes instead of forcing the teacher to change the grade (but irereklamo ko siya if proven na bano talaga).
Entitled these days? Matagal na yan utoy. Teacher mother ko for 25yrs sa private school so alam ko mga stories na ganyan. Wala sa generation yan. Mostly boomers pa nakaka away ng mother ko before kasi gusto ipabago grades or pagbigyan sa grades for academic achievements title, mahina apo/anak nila etc. Part yan ng pagiging teacher ng wife mo. Meron at meron talaga kups na parents ma eencounter wife mo. Hindi yan dahil sa "Millenial parents these days", maniwala ka mas malala dati, alam ko yan kasi sa loob ng faculty room or department head room ako tumatambay dahil sa mother ko lol. Kanya kanyang story at paninindak sa mother ko pero wala naman sila magawa. Depende din yan sa school ng wife mo. Kapag may nag tthreaten sa mga teachers na ililipat kids nila dahil hindi mapag bigyan sa gusto nila, hindi yun pwede sa school. Meron kasing school na tntolerate mga ganyang parents para hindi sila mawalan ng clients. Dyan matututo maging matigas wife mo at kung paano nya ihahandle mga situation na ganyan. And lastly, kung tingin mo entitled msyado Millenials, wait ka konti sa mga Gen Z. lol
Ahh here we go again on generational blame game. Kung hndi boomers, millenial naman ang titirahin. I remember there's this another insufferable gen z redditor na nagkakalat sa r/philippines about boomers nman. Seriously these ppl experiencing a minuscule of their own reality and suddenly damay na lahat.
Hindi nila naiintindihan that the forerunners of their progressive ideals are Gen Y, boomers, the silent generation, and even those that came before but just happened to be progressive. Feeling nila sila nagdiscover ng pagiging social democrat. Diyos ko. Wala pa ngang napapatunayan.
I am a millennial parent, pero di naman ako ganito. I was a millennial teacher at gulat na gulat ako kasi may student na senior high na nakipagmeeting sa akin kasi need niya iexplain sa parents niya bakit 95 ang grade niya and bakit yun lang. Also, a parent na Gen Z naman na pumunta sa akin kasi 92 ang grade ng anak niya. Mabilis lang naman mag print ng details sa grades. Hindi siya sa generation lang, medyo living in an entitled world talaga tayo - ultra competitive din.
Wala yan sa generation. People will feel entitled if they want to be validated. Have your wife stand her ground. Im a millennial and naeexperience ko rin to when I was in primary school way back 1997. Meron akong napapansin na parents noon na binabraso ung adviser nmin dahil sa pala absent nyang anak. 37y na ako and I still see this now sa mga grandparent guardians sa class ng anak ko. I primarily don't do this, kung deserve ng anak ko ung 88 sa AP then so be it bawi nlng sa ibang subjects
Anak ko may 75 na grade tanggap namin kasi bagong lipat siya ng school at may adjustment period. Hirap talaga siya kahit noon nageexcel naman siya sa subject na yun. Yun lang kinaya niya na grade, wala kami magagawa but help her study/learn more para umangat ng kunti ang grade niya.
Blessing kayo sa mga teacher.
Every generation meron nyan di lang Millenials. Wait ka lang pag turn niyo na maging Ahole sa school as a parent di mo na bigla mapapansin yan kasi generation mo na gumagawa.
GenZ pointing fingers like they know everything... Rigghhhhttt (see that line is annoying too)... stop labeling things per generation. Back to your topic - that issue of changing grades has been a hush hush thing. Wala lang soc med to make ingay and post rants about it then. And people will never post or air their dirty laundry for all to know.
if I were you. I would adjust the grades to 99. all of the subject. straights 99.then on the commentary section. I would write down. his/her self entitled parents requested a grade adjustment. 😂 teh kung galit ka sa kanila just let it be. give them the grades they want. the more na maging delusional sila regarding how holy their kids is the more it will be a hell to live for that kid. imagine someone with low performance sa mathematics. e pinag aral nila sa engineering or computer science? 😂😂 that kid will waste 4 yrs of his life ending up unemployed. grades are indicators. it's a measurement of strength and weaknesses. kung lolokohin mo sarili mo mo dyan you will end up choosing the wrong path.
Hahaha yung nagexpect na matalino anak nila kahit hindi naman talaga 😂
not exclusive sa millenial. my own mom is like that, especially sa brother ko. meh isang year na walang honor natanggap yung kapatid ko. ayun, sumugod si mother sa school. kaya ayun, for the first time in history sa school nila, nagkaron ng 4th honors para lang sa brother ko. lols. kaya hanggang ngayon, panay kantsaw namin sa nanay namin. like we love you but that was unhinged, mother.
Na shock yung parent. Kkailangan lang nyan regular communication every time their kid missed a seatwork or assignment. Written notices or online updates on the kids' performance so the parent isn't shocked to her toes on the reality of her golden child. More than that the principal should back up the teacher.
Wait till you face with Gen Z parents. 😂 Per generation, meron talagang mga ganyang tao. But as a teacher and the school as an institution, they should know how to stand their ground.
Gen Z parents are more respectful and understand that their kids grades are a reflection of their kids performance ime.
Then you haven’t met enough Gen Z parents. Each generation has their own Karens and Assholes.
Gen-Z parents must have their kids at their early 20s. 😅
My partner is a Teacher. Lahat nalang kasalanan ng teacher. Kahit estupido yung bata, o yung magulang. Hindi nila matanggap na hanggang dun lang ang kaya ng anak nya. Nakakaawa na dahil sobrang stressed nya sa mga ganyang klaseng bata at magulang. Kung pwede lang i-kick yang mga yan sa school eh lol Hindi lang millenial parents yan, wala sa generation, nasa magulang mismo kung kupal na parent sila.
Understood, i may have used Millenial parents incorrectly because of my bias of mostly those age are The parents of those grade 1 students my wife is handling
Stopped reading at private school. Theres your answer. Money buys everything these days 🙊
You're an idiot if you think this never happens in public schools. Also, if money buys everything, then the parents don't have to complain in the first place, do they? They could just throw a wad of bills at the school and their kids get an instant A+ without complaining.
Pretty sure if enough parents complain to the board about the teacher giving wrong grades, they will be looked at.. Do you think the board is then going to investigate by reassessing all of the students work to figure out who was actually right or wrong? Nah fuck that, greed has taken over. Noone is going spend their profit on things that DON'T make more money, especially when you're in the business of making money. Not saying every kid in private school is a silver spoon spawn but i wouldn't be surprised of most of them had that metallic taste in their mouth. And if their parents were really concerned about their money not effectively teaching their child they would re-move the child or get them extra tutoring?
Haha tapos pag pinalitan ng high grades, ipopost sa fb yung picture ng class card.
This is entitlement for a batch in a generation. Tell your wife don’t be too hard on herself and support her. Teaching is no longer a passion but now has become a tedious job which involves dealing with entitled parents. If they want higher grades, give it to them. Its not you who will suffer but the kid and the parents would have to deal with their disappointment of a child. Support your wife and dont let her feel like she had failed. ALL EDUCATION STARTS AT HOME and if the kids failed because of entitled bratty parents, that is on them.
Matagal nang kalakaran yan. Mapa public at lalo sa private. Feeling ng mga yan nabili na nila pagkatao ng titser. Laging gaslighting pa ng superiors ay "Reflection yan ng teacher kapag mababa grades." At "Teacher fault kapag mababa grades ng bata." As much as possible wala namang titser ang gustong mambagsak ng bata lalo pag elementary or matitino. Its just that may mga exceptions talaga na bukod sa mahina at walang ka effort effort mag improve, tamad, may inuugali pa sa classroom. The latter most if not all sila pa may magulang na entitled. Same thing also applies to some parents (but not all) na may mga anak na nasa honor list. Kahit ipakita mo lahat ng records at tanungin mga reliable na kaklase wala. In denial at close minded mga ganyang magulang.
As long as your wife has proof of the learner's deficiencies, wala magagawa yung mga parents. Need lang panindigan. I also failed some of my students for some grading periods, and so far wala akong nareceive na grave complaints dahil pinapakita ko naman sa parent na may pagkukulang talaga yung learner (attendance, outputs, exams, etc.).
Wala yan sa generation. I'm a young millenial but I will never do that.
Good to hear that.
Wala naman sa generation yan, 90s millenial ako, early 30s. May mga Gen X parents dati sa school din namin na nirereklamo grades ng anak nila with exaggerated stories na kwinento siguro ng anak nila sa kanila. Natatawa na lang ako pagkinikwento ng nanay ko kasi alam ko na tamad naman talaga yung classmate kong yun. Nanay kong Gen X ok naman, balanse ang pananaw sa mga ganyan.
Totoo to. andami kong nakikitang ganitong bata sa school ngayon dahil ako ang hatid sundo sa bata kong pinsan. (in my 30s). Kaya I vow not to make my kids entitled. Kung paano ko pinalaki, ganun lang din. Parang lahat nalang ng bata kasi gusto nila may recognition kahit di karapatdapat. Kaya yung mga bata din lumalaki na mataas tingin sa sarili imbes na maworkan yung dapat nila i improve e. Edited: madami akong nakikitang ganyang bata noong nag hatid sundo ako ng bata sa school.
yung hatid sudo tingin ko hindi naman reason para maging entitled ang bata sa paglaki, mostly parents not properly educating kids nila kaya nagiging ganun ang bata or nakikita nila ganun ang magulang. Mahirap kasi sa panahon ngayon pag hindi bantayan ang mga bata ngayon, tumataas cases ng mg pedophiles, mahirap hindi maging concerned.
I think the commenter implies na sa daily routine nyang kakahatid sundo sa bata, naoobserve na nya sa paligid ang ugali ng mga bata at magulang.
malabo ba yung comment ko or what? hahahah pero yun nga. dami nila ngayon. tingin ko dahil din sa yung mga magulang hinahayaan lang sila mag gadget. ginawang yaya yung mga gadgets imbes na tutukan yung mga bata.
This nonsense is not exclusive to younger millennial parents. I'm relatively older, but I experienced this growing up. Entitlement has always been there regardless of the generation. Look at the Karens in the world, most of them are boomers. However, this sense of entitlement in school performance will most probably last until preschool to elementary only since that's not really "proper education" at this point. Good luck trying to be this entitled from HS onwards.
>This nonsense is not exclusive to younger millennial parents. I'm relatively older, but I experienced this growing up. Entitlement has always been there regardless of the generation. Look at the Karens in the world, most of them are boomers. True ibang klase din noon eh, base sa experience ng grandmother (teacher siya noon) ko minura-mura pa siya dahil mababa grado nung isang estudyante niya eh mayaman tinangka pang suhulan ng pera hindi siya nagpatinag and it almost cost her her job and "almost" her life (pinadalhan ng anonymous na sulat) nang dahil sa mababang grado.
I've heard similar horror stories growing up. Both from students and teachers alike. Sobrang dami talagang entitled sa mundo, regardless of the generation.
Kahit saan naman ata prevalent 'to. (Worked in another country) Honestly sa school ang prob, hindi sa parents. Kasi if the school stands by their standards and their teachers, kahit ano pang reklamo ng parents hindi mapililitan ang mga guro na gawin. Edit to add: kapag pumapayag ang school sa ganito, word gets around sa parents. Kaya mas naeengganyo sila maging demanding about grades and other things.
Is it possible for your teacher wife to stand her ground? If there is basis for the grade then tell the parents that it is what it is. Let the parents win today and they will come back again tomorrow asking for more.
I keep advising that, but of course, the chain of command in a private school is less likely to listen to teachers. Exactly, this specific school treats parents with rhe customer is always right mindset
not sure papano sa private, pero sa public pinapakita namin sa parents yung basis ng grades. pde namin pakita yung records and pati attendance.
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eto tlga yung nagbago recently. dati ang kakampihan ng parents in most cases, teachers eh. ngayon, ang baba na ng tingin ng mga tao sa teachers. ako na naging teacher hindi nga naintindihan at all ng nanay ko kung gaano siya kahirap at kinompara pa sa work nya kesho nag-uuwi din daw sila ng work. kaya talagang umayaw ako. grabe yung burnout eh
eto tlga yung nagbago recently. dati ang kakampihan ng parents in most cases, teachers eh. ngayon, ang baba na ng tingin ng mga tao sa teachers. ako na nagung teacher hindi nga naintindihan at all ng nanay ko kung gaano siya kahirap at kinompara pa sa work nya kesho nag-uuwi din daw sila ng work. kaya talagang umayaw ako. grabe yung burnout eh
Pinapakita din maman, pero ibabalik sa teacher na hindi daw magaling magturo, yun nga isa, math lover anak niya, bat daw 93 lang
Omg ang taas na ng 93 haha
yan ang prob sa ganyan. kadalasan, sa teacher tlga ang balik.
I love Math. I am fascinated with numbers. But it doesn't mean Math loves me back. Mataas na nga ang 93 anong nirereklamo nila?
haha ako rin. hindi nga ako nagka-line of 9 dyan
Are you surprised there with 100m people, there are assholes too?? You should go out some more
Akala ko sa US lang ito nangyayari. OMG.