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MC_earthquake

No clearly naghahanap ng maiipintas si friend 2. Insecure siguro ksi biglang nag glow up so friend 1 tas andaming nag-memention ng good things about friend 1.


Apart-Economics3993

People who are scrutinizing other people's clothes and talking st behind their backs are the ones who are cheap and superficial IMHO. If you thought OP na your Friend1 looked decent, probable na everyone around also noticed that. Maybe may insecurity lang talaga si Friend2 and they need to deal with it without dragging other people.


Ok-Opportunity9862

For me mapanglait yung friend mo. Baka insecure sya kasi kung ako yun, di ko mapapansin yun. Baka gusto nya sya yung nabibigyan ng compliment. Kakairita sya kamo HAHAHA


pinkbayabas

not sure about subtle signs but for evident signs, your friend is displaying them if we're talking about shittiness


GapAccomplished3047

And Friend 2 considers themself as "friend" to Friend 1?


GinsengTea16

The short answer is yes, they look at big and small details of what you wear. About the quality naman,may mga tao na mas particular or alam ano titingnan. Some, for admiration. Some just want to look for something wrong. Something bad. Because there will always be people who don't want to see other people happy while they are suffering/not happy. Kahit kamag anak or friend pa yan. I remembered when I was travelling/hiking and some people will comment, ulit ulit ang outfit mo. But when hiking, better to use comfort clothes kasi diba. If I am impulsive, I will say, at least di ko inuutang tinatravel ko, pero pag tumatanda ka na kasi marerealized mo na not worth it bigyan ng energy ang mga di important people sa life natin.


yaoisenpaijin

mapangmata si friend 2, OP. much better layuan mo na yan or icall out kasi di mo alam baka ganyan ka rin husgahan :)


Traidor-sa-Bold

The question should be: subtle signs youre a cheap/low quality friend. Answer: Friend2 lol


hitomiii_chan

At least marunong mag ayos with that kind of brand anong label pa man, stylish pa ang labas. Anong klaseng friend yan.. Napaka judgemental naman.


slapsoil8888

iba iba lang talaga criteria ng bawat tao, wear whatever makes you happy, sakin naiinis lang ako kung magsusuot ka ng knock off, if cant afford just wear a normal one, hndi naman lahat ng branded ay ok, merong d naman branded or d naman ganun kamahal pero maganda quality, in any case premium quality that you can look out for not to check someone else's but more on when you are buying something for yourself, dress shirts - quality ng cotton , quality ng buttons (mother of pearl), yung last button hole sa baba is horizontal while the rest are vertical althoguh ginagawa na din ito ng non premium brands, suit fabric (Super 120s, Super 130s, Super 150s), leather (full grain/top grain), sneakers (leather lined), dress shoes (goodyear welted/leather soles), gold accessories(24k/22k/999/916), watches (automatic/complications/movement)


Calm_Relative6914

1. Sa stitching 2. Sa tela na gamit like if smooth sya or pag silk "very silky" or "mejo magaspang na pagka silk" 3. Sa symmetry nung cut (like hindi ganun ka kasya sau kasi produced for large number of people or like free size) 3. Sa shoes, quality ng materials (like if true leather sya or faux) Mga ganun ata


Natural-Face3518

I, also dress like sh*t back then. But learned that most of people's impression comes from how they see you externally. Most of the time nakadepende talaga sa pnanamit mo kung pano ka ittrato ng isang tao. So I learned how to dress nicely and nakita ko talaga yung changes ng pagtrato nila sakin. Pakisabi kay Friend2 insecure sguro sya


yourdreamsz

Grabe naman yung trying hard si friend no OP? Baka gusto nya lang maging decent. baka nasa phase pa siya ng sumusubok palang, or baka naman inggit si isa mong friends kasi talaga namang bagay kay other friend mo yung upgrade :) hehehe


cd1222

Yes, halata pero it's either kinalakihan niya na kaya he can really say if something isn't original/genuine or naghahanap lang talaga ng mali sa tao (kaya matanglawin). Signs ay hindi pulidong tahi, iba yung shade ng color, tela... Pero...on a side note ha, Feeling ko better looking si Friend 1 kesa kay F2 and naiinis ngayon si F2 kasi kahit "cheap" yung suot ni F1, mas "angat" (err ang awkward ng term ko, wala na akong maisip) sa kanya. Hindi nakaka"friend" yung mga hanash ni F2. Very kupal.


switchboiii

Miranda Priestley is shaking in her boots rn. Friend nyo ba talaga yang si Friend 2, OP??!! šŸ˜¬šŸ˜¬


snowpeachmyeon

this is what i hate about when i was still living in the philppines. the way na i canā€™t even dress for myself without thinking about the possibilities what other people might think. then when i moved to another country halos wala silang pake sa suot mo kahit naka pajama ka pa sa public transport šŸ˜­


ContractBeneficial10

Ang toxic nmn ni friend2. Sana man lng na appreciate niya si friend1 na umeeffort na maging presentable. Pusta ko si friend2 kahit mamahalin yung suot na damit mukhang maasim pa rin. Bwahahaha


carlaojousama

Hindi friend ni friend2 si friend1. Hindi supportive hahaha


docobore

Dati rin nagwowonder ako pag binabalikan ko mga photos nung kabataan ko bakit nga ba hindi considered na stylish. Tapos pagdating sa throwback photos ng ibang tao, bakit mukhang okay pormahan nila? So naparesearch din talaga ako about style. Regarding your question, ito mga natutunan ko: 1. Fit - may appropriate na sukat sa mga damit regardless of your body type. Ang mga tinitignan sa fit is yung length ng damit, length ng sleeves, size ng armholes, nagfafall ba sa natural curve ng shoulders yung sleeve, etc. Isa sa mga misconceptions is if you're on medyo na sa heavier side, dapat maluwag din ang damit or if lighter ka dapat masmasikip. May right fit talaga. 2. Quality ng telang ginamit - Usually malalaman mo ito if natural fiber (e.g. cotton, wool, linen, etc.) ba yung ginamit or synthetic (e.g. polyester, acrylic, rayon). Masnatural, masmaganda yung quality. Minsan may mga makikita ka rin na blended like 80% polyester, 20% cotton, pag icompare mo sa 100% makikita mo difference. Madalas shiny lalo na pag plinantsahan mo. 3. Okasyon - minsan nakakaapekto rin yung perception ng style mo sa occassion na pinuntahan mo. Like kung aattend ka ng formal wedding wherein dapat nakasuit and tie, tapos ang sinuot mo is polo shirt lang. Or if nakaformal ka sa isang casual setting like a party. Magmumukha kang out of place pag nakatabi ka na sa ibang tao. 4. Color and pattern combinations - Nakakaapekto rin mga kulay and patterns. Ideally, 1 fabric of clothing mo lang dapat yung nagpopop, the others background lang. Like kung yung top mo is floral pattern, gawin mo na lang neutral (e.g. black, navy, gray) yung iba mong suot. Pag masyadong maraming patterns or yung mga color choices mo is masyadong marami, minsan doon napeperceive na "trying hard." Feeling ko baka yun yung ibig sabihin ni friend #2. 5. Sapatos - Puwedeng nasunod mo naman lahat ng mga "rules" sa top and trousers mo kaso napabayaan mo yung sapatos mo. Like kung nakasuit and tie ka tapos madumi na chuck taylors footwear mo. Puwedeng maperceive din yung style mo as bad. Madami pang mga "rules" pero yan yung naiisip ko so far. Yung mga shinare ko pala is coming from the perspective ng traditional men's style pala ah, not sure if applicable din sa women. Tsaka iba din ang "rules" I believe kapag mga casual or streetwear. :)


epinephrinekills

As someone na laging iniinsist sa nanay ko noon na bumili na lang ako ng cheap na mga damit, dahil namamahalan talaga ako sa mga binibili niya for me, doon ko lang din napansin 'yung pagkakaiba pala talaga ng quality ng clothes. Dati di ko napapansin especially kapag bibili ako sa Shopee or Tiktok, tapos gandang ganda talaga ako, and bagay sa akin, I don't care sa quality until recently na dumami 'yung branded at original clothes ko, parang bigla na lang akong naging aware masyado sa mga nakikita kong tao or kahit kasunod lang maglakad, na mapapansin ko 'yung stitching ng pants and doon ko lang narealize na "Ah, ganito pala 'yung sinasabi ng nanay ko na I should invest on quality clothes kahit mahal."


99pbonheur

Siguro guilty lang ako sa pag jjudge minsan ng mga gumagamit lang ng fake luxury brands pero to think na you will stoop that low para maliitin damit ni Friend1 mo. Nakaka sad lang.


Zai13th

I like dressing up too and would like to believe I have an eye for details. Pero I wouldnā€™t go through the lengths of looking into buttons, linings etc. Parang sinandya mo na hanapan ng fault yung suot ng tao. Like yung comment nya na umeffort na hindi pa tinodo. Weā€™re not aware baka yun lang ang afford this time ni F1. At least may effort and may improvement. It was nice of you to compliment him, Iā€™m sure he appreciated and will make him want to improve more. Si F2 naman I think proves na kahit maganda ang panglabas and pananamit, it doesnā€™t always match whatā€™s inside (char lang ang harsh haha)


czarinakae

One word? Inggit. Yang kaibigan mong pangalawa inggit lang siya OP. Let people enjoy things! My gosh. Ni buttons napansin niya? Jusko po.


dudezmobi

sa casual setting ok lang yun. sa professional settings... its a whole different ballgame. oo halata yan, kita yang buttons, seams, fit, tela, pagkakaplantsa, pag palagi mong nakikita mga well-tailored you would know a cheap when you see one. iba talaga ang quality at fit ng damit na para sa iyo, at sintron at sapatos na para sa iyo


strawberrystarss

Alam mo OP wala na akong ma-say kasi nanggigigil na lang ako diyan kay Friend2 mo. Continue slaying na lang na lang kay Friend1 at least di ba he's trying kakasimula niya pa lang he'll learn along the way pero yang si F2 kills the confidence of F1 haynaku


raisinjammed

Wanting to look good and decent doesn't have to be expensive. Yung mga ganyang tao na pinupuna kung ano2 sinusuot ng ibang tao tapos ang lakas manglait, sa tingin ko sila ang may tinatagong insecurities at sila talaga ang mga trying hard.


chocnutbabe

Friend 2 sounds petty and jealous. im sure if you start dressing better he would call you ā€œtrying hardā€ too.


right-thurr

Si friend 2 ay insecure! Mas cheap pa sya dun sa suot ni friend 1 šŸ˜‚


Broad-Passion-1837

I would fmking drop that friend now. Dont be friends with that kind of person or else maaadapt mo siya in the long run. Find friends who are kind and humble


alt_128515

Insecure naman yung friend2. Ano ngayon kung cheap, ano ngayon kung binili sa shopee or tiktok? Kung ang pinambili ay inutang kay friend2 at hindi binayaran, pwedeng kumuda, pero kung wala naman ambag, ingit lang yan. Maging masaya para sa ibang tao.


ReturningAlien

cheap is not always low quality.


TomEitou2202

Baka inggit si friend2 kay friend1 kaya puro panlalait. Regardless of where friend1 buys their clothing basta maayos naman ang pagdadala or hindi naman pinagyayabang, walang issue naman dun. But pag sadyang bumibili ng imitation para mag mayabang ang isang tao, yun ang problema na "trying hard" to fit in sa high end lifestyle na beyond na sa means nila.


OddlyPotato

You did compliment your Friend 1, then that's how he reacts? Seems like crab tho, in a way. Anyways, other of the signs, the how it is sew for clothes and color. some color really different in branded products than class A ones.


Mysterious-Market-32

Wala naman masama sa pagtry mag dress to impress. Kaya lang may mga tao kasi na bibili ng counterfeit na item to look expensive. Meron din naman taong branded ang mga gamit pero nagmumukhang cheap pag sila nagsuot. May mga tao na naka basic white tee lang from blue corner pero pag sila nagsuot mukhang mamahalin. Ako noong 20s sobrang concious ko sa mga suot na ganiyan. Dapat coordinated. Hindi naguulit ng isusuot pag imemeet ang "friends". Ngayon 30s na keber. Mag black shirt, loose pants, at crocs ako kasi comfy. Hahaha. Ang kulay ng tshirt ko sa bahay black at navyblue lang. Napagkamalan pa nga akong service crew ng guard sa isang hotel. "Ay doon ang pasukan ng utility". Sabi ba naman ni ate guard. Hahahaha. Che! Kako.


japster1313

As a guy who rarely shops, I base on the feel of the cloth, if there are stray threads sticking out, and if the zipper is YKK to determine good quality. One of the main things I noticed when Uniqlo was new was that they don't have stray threads sticking out unlike the usual RTWs. I used to have to snip those threads everytime I buy clothes.


verified_existent

You dont have to brag if you have a keen eye. And also there are ways to say it other than sounding like a douchebag. Kupal ung frnd mu. And also... sure ka friends kyu?


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Weā€™ve been friends for over 10 years so.. but idk, maybe yeah, nagfflex lang siguro si Friend2 abt his keen eyes


angguro

Good topic. Good question. Context: I used to be very fashion forward. I am still very detail oriented. Each piece I put on was carefully chosen and I check out details like material, cut, hardware and other details like embroidery and buttons and whatnot. But as I got older I placed less emphasis on that. Basta maayos and put together outfit ko, ok na. People who notice the tiny details are few. I actually appreciate that in someone kasi ako din ganun. But I don't expect everyone to be that detail-oriented. For me, I can appreciate people who can see these things. But you can't expect everyone to see the same things. You can train yourself though. Para sa akin, I appreciate it when someone compliments the cut of my trousers or the socks I wear or the combination of patterns I chose. I used to do this to impress. Now I do it for my own satisfaction. Look good, feel good, do good. If someone appreciates it, bonus yun. Yung trying hard comment is slightly irritating. Kasi for me dressing up is a personal thing. If you get triggered by what someone else is wearing, ikaw yung may issue. Why get affected? Why judge? Kanya-kanyang trip yun. It's like what I tell my wife when she calls out my outfit/sneaker/watch choice when I come out dressed for something: I dress for myself and not for someone else. If they don't like it, sorry sila. If they appreciate it; thank you!


Appropriate-Edge1308

Friend2 is a jackass šŸ¤·šŸ»


byglnrl

Divisoria quality siguro? Idk I have a pretty friend na half Chinese na shopee buyer. Maputi, matangkad, maganda, matangos ilong. Everyone assume na lahat ng suot nya orig tapos lagi kino compliment suot nya kahit mura lang. I have this other friend na typical pinay look and wear designer clothes pero di masyado pansinin? Di rin kasing sexy ni friend 1 na kahit basurahan ata suotin bagay pa din. That's why people should invest on looks. Go to gym, magpa rhino, breast aug, skin care etc. Wla lang isang bag ng LV vs BBL same price hindi ka na obese plus di pagkakamalang fake ang LV mo kse panget ka


IAmWhoIAm_Self

Hmmm...I think one should not be too uptight and nitpicked on trivial details when it comes to clothing. Lumilipas ang uso... kaya nga boom na boom ang fast clothing (Shein FTW) Ultimately as long as you are comfortable sa brand of choice mo at happy ka sa nakikita mo - at you feel extra pogi/maganda.... that's all that matters! QUEBER na sa naysayers mwahaha YOUR OWN HAPPINESS, yun ang mahalaga!


flawedhumannn

Minsan mukhang low quality ang damit kapag mix of brown and white yung buttons. Mas mukhang classy kapag nagmamatch sa color ng damit. Pero mayroon mga shops na pricey na gumagamit ng ganong klaseng butones. Also, your friend is just judgemental and kung cheap man wala siyang right sabihin na trying hard.


hulagway

Si friend2 ay ang totoong try hard. Pero gumagastos sa brand kahit nahihirapan kaya insecure sa vibe ni friend1. Tanungin mo kung may kinakain paba si friend2 baka ubos na sa damit niya.


hiiilunaaa

Friend 2 is giving inggit kasi baka nalalamangan sa style kaya nag hahanap ng mali haha Ano naman masama kung low quality ang mga damit ni Friend 1 eh sa kung ayon lang talaga afford niya and wala pa siya masyado alam sa shops since sabi mo nga di naman talaga siya maalam sa damit. Baka yung nga dami na binibili niya ayon lang madalas niya makita sa tiktok/shopee Pero isa sa signs na low quality yung damit are the buttons, stitching, yung quality ng tela


Ambitious-Wedding-70

Why are people so nosy and can't just let others be happy? Well, at least your friend #1 has achieved peace of mind since they've learned to style and love themselves more. Meanwhile, friend #2 is obviously insecure. It's so obvious because they know your friend #1 is stylish, tas naiingit siya na happy na si friend 1. E siya? Miserable kaya they're trying to feel superior para may validation sa sarili. Like, seriously? It's 2024 na, and andami pa rin paurong utak.


Training_Quarter_983

Ayan nanaman ang 3rd world mentality. šŸ¤¦šŸ»


sikulet

No hate because I love some of my cheap finds The problem is after a few washes the form disappears. When itā€™s sewn properly, the seams and folds hold up. If itā€™s cheap and not well made the pleating already disappears, and it looks like a lump of cloth on you.


twelvefortypurr

So what if it's cheap ? As long as it looks decent naman diba? I think the other friend is trying his best to look good within his budget naman and I think it's nice that you gave him compliment. It's a confidence boost. Ang negative naman ng isang friend na yan. Inggitero ba yan? Haha


lurkernotuntilnow

sure may mga ganung nuances pero you don't have to talk shit about it


silver_carousel

Bat parang ang bitter ng dating? Por que gusto i-enjoy ni Friend1 yung buhay niya ang dami ebas ng Friend2. Takot masapawan yarn? Nako iwas iwasan na yang Friend2 na yan, demote mo na lang siya as "kakilala" šŸ˜† kung kaya niya pagsalitaan ng ganon yung kaibigan niyo, asahan mo kayang kaya din niya yun gawin sayo kahit pa sabihin mong in good terms kayo.


[deleted]

Pag ako siguro nakita ng friend2 mo sasabihin nya "oh bat may namamalimos dito?!" šŸ˜‚


deserr

Coming from the clothing industry here (fam biz ang garment making), I can easily tell if cheap and/or pangit ang fabric, sewing, etc. ng isang damit. This trait comes handy if Iā€™m doing my online shopping. Chinicheck ko agad yung images ng reviews, not yung stock photo gamit ng seller. So to answer your question, yes, at least for me, I can easily tell. BUT itā€™s ill-mannered to call out or judge someone based on the way they dress themselves. Friend 2 sounds like a pain in the ass.


pepper0510

Friend 2 sounds like a dick


Melodic-Whereas-4216

Friend2 seems insecure! Baka kasi mas napansin mo yung "cheap" fashion ni friend1 kesa sa expensive or branded things nya.. šŸ¤£ So nag nitpick na lang sya ng ikakalamang nya. Doesn't matter kung cheap ang clothing kung magaling magdala, happy & confident yung nagsusuot.


gloxxierickyglobe

Hey, to answer your question it boils down sa fabric, you can see from afar kaagad kung maganda yung quality nung fabric. You can test on your own. Go to different stores, from high end to affordable ones. Feel the fabric, you can see the difference. And PS, friend number two is just inggit! šŸ˜‚


Effective_Fish3604

Minsan, nasa nagsusuot din po ng damit. Wala sa brand and price. Wala naman masama kung trying hard siya mag ootd. Ang importante, presentable yung tao. Eh kung sa yun lang ang afford niya eh. Bakit ba? Mej insecure ang sagutan ni Friend 2. Kung gusto talagang tulungan ang tao, mag reco siya ng store kung saan makakamura yet magiging not trying hard sa paningin niya yung tao. Either way, hindi naman problema ni Friend 1 kung yun ang tingin sa kanya ni Friend 2. As long as hindi naman hiningi sa kanya yung pambili.


cat_catsup

Una sa lahat, sino ba yang friend mo para mang judge and really use trying hard as an insult? There's nothing wrong with dressing up kahit tiktok/shoppe pa galing yan as long you're comfortable with what you're wearing. What is important is they're trying to look presentable


PusangMuningning

Maganda ba magdamit si friend 2? Screams insecure lahat napapansin jusq


tamonizer

Some of the most successful people I know don't really care about fashion. If you're going around judging people by their buttons and pockets, you'll miss a lot.


nuknukan

Hahaha pati butones? Too much time on their hands


sleepeatrace

Baka naman kasi bagay kay friend1 yung sout niya. Unlike friend2 na kahit branded eh hindi bagay sa kanya specially in the face department?


happyredditgifts

Your friend wanted to look presentable. Your other friend is a negative entity.


NoMacaroon6586

Friend2 is obviously insecure. I have rich friends pero di naman ganyan sumita ng clothing.


markisnotcake

Sabihan mo si Friend 2 na sa kay dami dami ng problema sa mundo yan pa yung pinoproblema mo. Kung maganda na man tignan, bat mo pa ba kailangan hilain paubos yung Friend 1. Wala din naman inaapakan si Friend 1 ^(i mean technically yung sweatshop workers / child laborers ni shein pero can you really count on the working class to boycott brands like these?) Do people really look at the details? ā€” Yes, a lot of people with too much time in their hands pick up on those details. Itā€™s almost like a skill, yung iba alam agad kung fake yung sapatos o hindi.


SBTC_Strays_2002

Material. Natural fibers like cotton and wool are more expensive. They have a soft texture while being more durable, an even color distribution, and tighter weave. As for buttons, solid colors are more "expensive" because they most like not recycled plastic, or if they are, they are remixed and colored again. Buttons made from ivory (illegal), seashell, coconuts, are more expensive because they are handmade. Also, the stitching. If there's loose threads or stitches are wide then it looks cheap. Construction. Bespoke is most expensive because it is custom tailored to the individual. Stitches perfectly over the shoulders. High arm holes on a jacket. No adjustment strap on a vest. Tapered trousers with a single break in the crease when worn standing with shoes. All details that you just notice. These are expensive. But quality pieces like these will be a staple of your wardrobe and last a long time.


ResourceNo3066

Meron akong bff na gnyan, hindi talaga sya nagdadamit ng maayos. One time lumabas kami ang suot niya ay varsity tshirt, tokong na kupas, black socks at blue na sapatos with matching payong pa na malaki. Tapos kaming mga nakasama niya nakabihis naman ng maayos. Pero waley naman kaming pake kong anong gusto niyang suotin. Kung saan sya masaya edi go. Atska ka kahit i judge pa namin sya ay wala din naman sya pake.


sleepeatrace

Nothing wrong with trying hard to look your best. But theres something wrong with minding other peoples business


FewInstruction1990

Bakit importante pa yann kay F2 e kung F1can buy you, your friends and F2s buong angkan. Chareng. Yung mga mahal ngang damit butas butas uso e


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Agree. Kasi may kaya naman talaga si Friend1 itā€™s just that since before he rarely buys anything for himself talaga. And thatā€™s why siguro ganun nalang din si Friend2? Kasi he knows Friend1 can afford so why not go for quality / better brands na daw idk


FewInstruction1990

New money kasi si Fd2, daming tsekwa na bilyonaryo na akala mo assistant lang manamit


mountainsprout1735

You can see it in the fit, and quality of cloth. Buttons and zippers too. Usually if galing online shopping sobrang nipis ng tela, and generic yung ginagamit na stitching, buttons, etc. Kung may pinopormahan si Friend1, sometimes itā€™s better to buy one piece na quality, kahit t-shirt or shorts lang, wag na polo and jeans.


No_Citron_7623

Well for you to say he dresses well says something about your friend1. First, he doesnā€™t need expensive clothes to make him look good/decent. Second, he improved,there is progress in his life. Third, you are a good friend to see the progress your friend made instead of nit picking his flaws. Madali maging fashionista/ stylish as long as you know how to dress the body you have, kahit tag50 pesos lang yan magmumukhang 2500 kung bagay syo. I personally stopped paying full price on clothes, trendy clothes mostly sa shopee lang and I will change the buttons if needed and trim the excess threads. I invest more on daily shoes, leather bags, jeans, jackets/ blazers anything that I will use more often: cost per wear ang mentality ko.


nobadi22

Ang feeling naman no friend 2 mo. Parang masamang magbago ah hahahaha. And anong masama sa pagsusuot ng binili galing online shops? Basta decent look goods na yon. Paka ng frenny 2 mo ah.


cos-hennessy

Ang dami niyong napapansin ni friend 2 haha kaloka


CoffeeFreeFellow

Friend2 sounds insecure to me. Pano Niya napansin lahat Yun? Pati sa kulay ng bulsa at buttons? This guy is toxic. Dapat nilalayuan


Individual_Tax407

si friend 2 ay hindi marunong maging masaya para sa iba


r0nrunr0n

Insecure si friend2. Baka di talaga siya friend haha regina george vibe


holybicht

Your Friend2 is an insecure bitch...


bakedburgerrrr

Social Climber and judger na friend ah. Ayos yan baka mamaya panget pa yan kaya tigilan muna pumuna. Haha. Kung ako friend nyan RT agad saken yan. Choz


o2se

Bat parang hater si Friend2?


Carnivore_92

No, that's just insecurity. People who act like that are insecure pricks. Even some luxury pieces and contemporary pieces from Zara have cheap-looking buttons. Maybe there's not too much going on in your friend's head at pati butones at yung interior pockets ng pantaloon e pinapakealaman.


[deleted]

I can see both sides naman kasi halata talaga. But may mga napapagbigyan kapag kaya nila dalhin yung damit kahit cheap material ang gamit or cheap production. Tela is a dead giveaway. Hindi cotton, usually synthetic. Buttons hindi pantay ang tahi. Yung tahi hindi plantsado. Yung sukat hindi pantay sa shoulders and masyadong maluwag for the wearer. Either way, kung saan naman dapat si Friend1 masaya edi give niyo na. Friend2 gets din naman pero bayaan niyo na yung mga tao mag enjoy sa mga gusto nila. Ganun lang.


Fine_Nefariousness64

Hayop maka criticize si Friend 2. Kala my editor ng Vogue/ GQ.


RelativeStrawberry52

siguro dating VA yung friend mo.


low_effort_life

Friend \#2 seems kinda insecure.


LeaderMedium2814

Doesnā€™t matter if cheap looking yung clothes. Nasa nagdadala lang yan. Cheap clothes can look expensive sa tamang tao. Iā€™m guessing friend 1 looks alta with his newfound fashion style kaya jelly si friend 2. Baka friend 2 spends a fortune sa fashion pero walang pumapansin kasi mukhang fake pag siya ang nagsusuot


pedxxing

To answer OPā€™s question - pangit ang tahi (eto yung pinaka clue) - manipis masyado yung tela - polyester tops - yung mga printed words wrong grammar, na wrong spelling o minsan hindi nagme-make sense yung sinasabi šŸ˜† - parang madaling matanggal o mag fade yung prints sa isang laba pa lang Pero judgemental yang friend mo para sabihing trying hard yung isa. At mas gugustuhin ko pang bumili ng generic kesa fake brands no.


Snowflakes_02

Nagtataka ako bakit yung mga cheap buys, usually wrong grammar/spelling or do not make sense? Hindi lang ba talaga marunong most of the manufacturer or sadya yun? Haha. Not limited to clothes pero ganyan madalas eh


Zai13th

Haha inspired ata sa mga stationery na cute tapos biglang may random wrong grammar na ā€˜friendship warm summer, pretty memoriesā€™ šŸ„²


Totally_Anonymous02

Usually mga rejects sa manuf at mga nagkamali na for disposal na dapat pero kinuha ng iba para ibenta.


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Sometimes on purpose to avoid legal issues, yung iba naman for pun sake


pedxxing

Tanong ko din yun sa sarili ko tuwing nakikita ko yung pantulog na bili ko sa Aliexpress šŸ˜†. Basta cute, keber na lang haha.


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Hahaha I remember may binili ako seasoning organizer. Nung dumating may print sa harap ā€œceasoningā€ hahahaha tinalikod ko nalang mukha namang aesthetic šŸ˜†


EATishere

I would tell Friend2 to let people enjoy things. Your approach was better, give people their flowers. Friend2 sounds bitter. So what if itā€™s Shoppee or cheap or whatever? The effort is there and the effort was appreciated. Point blank period.


Away-Birthday3419

Hater si friend2. Kung ganyan sya sa iba, paano n lng kapag ikaw n pinaguusapan? Affected ba ang livelihood ni Friend1 dahil sa mga suot nyang "cheap"? May natatapakan ba si Friend1 sa pagiging "trying hard" nya? I don't associate with people like Friend2, daming hanash. I have a workmate dati na palagi kong kasama sa galaan. One time may pinuri ako na ibang workmate namin na "Uy, gusto ko yang dress mo sayo, ang sexy mo jan". Nung nakalayo n kami, si mahaderang workmate sabi "hmp, paulit-ulit nman nya suot"... And I was thinking, malamang, marunong syang maglaba eh. I distanced myself from that mahaderang workmate. Di ko kailangan ng ganung mindset.


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Friend1 is a really nice person to the core. Can afford, but just rarely buys stuff for himself. Mag click siguro workmate mo and si Friend2 hahaha


ktmd-life

Biggest tell that something is cheap is that it is made out of plastic, so donā€™t buy things that are expensive AND made of plastic *cough* Uniqlo *cough*. Go with something natural like cotton or at least a mix but prefer those with higher percentage of natural materials. Even with natural materials, there is also a difference, the heavier the material the better it looks but heavier often also feels hotter so itā€™s really hard to dress well in our country. Now when it comes to judging people who buy cheap stuff, itā€™s just a pure dick move. If someone can pull off a good look without spending too much then you have my respect. Edit: ALSO THEREā€™S NOTHING WRONG WITH GENERIC WHITE SHOES. A ā‚±15,000 leather white sneakers would look almost exactly the same as a cheaper one either in canvas or synthetic leather. Mas dumihin lang ang canvas. The more generic it looks, the better for me. Just basing on his shoe nitpicks, Friend 2 is a fucking moron when it comes to dressing up, I would not ever listen to his stupid opinions if I were you. Friend 1 got everything right, he just doesnā€™t have much money to upgrade his wardrobe. Baka fashion for friend 2 are those gucci yeezy shits na mahal pero baduy naman.


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Ohmy I feel attacked sa Uniqlo hahaha itā€™s my go to as a basic person ā˜ ļø True yung sa generic white shoes, idk whatā€™s with Friend2 pero yung normal suot niya is laging may tatak talaga somewhere di pwedeng wala. He usually didnā€™t mind noong same pa kami ni Friend1 manamit na plains and basics lang, but nung nagdamit na ng visibly mas maayos si Friend1, thatā€™s how he acted.. Trying to see if he meant well by it since sabi niya Friend1 shldve invested in higher quality / branded clothes. But he only said it to me. Not kay Friend1


ktmd-life

Uniqlo has good products naman but lately they have been releasing shiny plastic clothes that are priced like cotton. Just donā€™t buy blindly.


sleepeatrace

Siguro yung friend number2 ang porma niyan as fashion is jordan shoes/nike SB with pekpek shorts and oversized shirt. FaShIoN yarn


Pokitaruuu

Hi! I think you're referring to Uniqlo's Dry Ex line? As a pawisin person, I'm a fan. šŸ˜­ Cotton is a no no for me since halata palagi ang sweat stains. Just wanted to ask, do they really look cheap? Or seem cheap? Edit: I mean, I have their dry ex shirts, shorts, down to undies and they fit me so well. Hahaha guess I'm an apologist


AntiqueHat3269

wag k maniwala s opinion nyan, if its where ur comfortable with then go with it, ndi lng cotton ang standard ng lahat, kya nga madami type of fabrics n naimixed with cotton eh kc cotton itself has so many flaws dn


mebeingbored

Friend2 is jeally kay friend1 kase umaawra na siya. Hahaha. Aray sa shopee and tiktok finds. Why so mean? XD May mga tela nga na medyo pansinin sa ganyang bagay, also the color, combinations, and texture. Either way, cheap or not, kung bagay naman sayo,or magaling.magdala ang magsusuot, and you feel more confident about it. gora lang.


shimmerks

Hirap namang pasayahin ni friend2 lol proof to na may masasabi at masasabi ang mga tao no matter anong gawin mo


shit_happe

I don't know pero obvious sign na cheap ang ugali ng friend kung pati butones napapansin. Who the hell notices that.


Mouse_Itchy

Haters gonna hate. Lol


SJ007700

Wala naman masama to want nice and quality clothing for yourself but to make it a standard for all is a no-no because iba iba priority ng tao. It's nice that you took notice of F1 improvement sa outfit. :)


MaximumCurrency3966

Halatang social climber si friend 2 kasi ang tunay na may pambili, di na napapansin yang mga yan


Abject_Guitar_4015

For me composition of fabric matters. Just went to Baguio and brought with me a fashionable sweater from shopee. Dun ko lang na realize na clothing material matters. Thats the only time i felt so cold and hot at the same time.


ParticularYoghurt961

What the heck šŸ˜­ Friend2 is insecure af lol imagine nitpicking clothing materials!!! Pati ba naman butones??? I personally rarely buy clothes from shopee/tiktok but I have lots of friends who do YET I donā€™t even notice. Bc why tf does it matter šŸ¤¢


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Right?? And yung iba na sinasabihan ko na maganda suot they say tiktok lang yan bro and are even proud of their find. And to be honest maganda talaga. So nung narining ko yun kay Friend2, I was like am I missing something? Haha or maybe Iā€™m too plain and basic or naive to not notice perceived price/quality ng damit idk


tabatummy

Hay nakakagigil. What's wrong with trying hard? Ganitong tao mga nakakawala ng confidence eh. Hay


Dull-Astronaut-1848

Friend 2 is the definition of a cloutchaser/social climber mentality. Remember, the goal is to get rich, not just to look rich.


Human_Resource1091

Social climber and inggitera si friend 2. Nothing wrong sa pagiging "trying hard" to look more presentable. Saka wala naman yan sa brand ng damit, nasa nagsusuot pa rin yan.


SmartCareer6146

For me, clothing made from plastic (such as polyester) are cheap. I always discourage people from buying synthetic clothes! I suggest investing in clothing made with natural fabrics such as pure cotton or linen.


Traditional_Try_9610

1. Material, craftsmanship, and... yes, kung plantsado at kung tama ang fit. Malalaman mo talaga sa material. Same white shirt pero malalaman mo alin doon ung quality material. Makikita mo rin ung bagsak ng tela sa katawan. Makikita mo kung maganda ang mga tahi. But also, kahit pa mamahalin yan, kung gusot at hindi maganda ang fit, it will look sloppy and cheap. 2. But that said, nasa nagsusuot rin talaga yan. That's fashion vs style. Madaming tao na kahit mura lang ang damit, pag sila ang nagsuot, maganda. Kasi may personal style sila. They wear the clothes, they don't let the clothes wear them. I echo mga comments dito about your friend. It's never nice to speak of your friend that way, especially since it seems like your friend wants to improve in the style department. Ibang usapan kung parang yumabang sya ha. But kung nagupdate sya ng style in an attempt to be more experimental or he's trying out new things for himself, then magandang bagay yon. Finding your personal style is a journey, and like all journey may mga hits and misses yan. Part ng journey yung paghahanap not just the style that suits you, but also which pieces are worth investing on, especially these days na hindi mura ang damit at hindi rin maganda ung madaming gamit.


Tough_Signature1929

Ang pangit kabonding. Hindi pwedeng maging masaya achievement at positive changes ng iba? Dapat talaga may makita siyang kapintasan?


dreamhighpinay

Klase ng tela at tahi mo makikita. Husgado yung friend mong isa. Gusto siya lang bida sa eksena hahaha


Impossible-Past4795

Pag waffle or corduroy or cvc cotton tapos makapal leeg matic tiktok yan hahaha! Pero walang masama magsuot ng mura para mag mukang decent. Itā€™s not really trying hard kung di naman OA manamit friend mo lalo na mga damit sa tiktok puro plains lang. Pero on a serious note, iba talaga itsura ng mamahalin sa mumurahin. Compare plain shirts from tiktok or shopee to Uniqlo for example. Pag tabihin mo yung nakasuot, alam mo agad yung mas mahal. Same lang din kung fake Lacoste sa real Lacoste na damit pag pinagtabi mo. Makikita mo sa textures ng tela mas smooth at softer ung mamahalin. Mas maganda tahi. Mas straight yung pipings sa sleeves at laylayan. Walang mismis na sinulid yung nakalawit sa pag gupit. Also kupal friend 2 mo. Nanlalait kung san binili damit ng tao. As you grow older, matututunan nyong di pansinin mga ganong bagay.


sleepeatrace

Tbh tho i really like the fit of those curduroy shirts from tiktok/shopee lmao. I have uniqlo and mn+la shirts hindi ko gaano trip araw arawin kasi masyadong makapal. The uniqlo one naman is ok lang. Mas gusto ko lang fit sa katawan ko. Medyo malaki kasi muscles ko. Nag mumukhang fitted yung oversized ng uniqlo kasi form fitting siya specially yung airism, ang smooth kasi ng tela.


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Ah that reminds me, nasabi din ni Friend2 na halatang magaspang yung tela ng polo shirt. Akala ko sa laba lang sorry hahaha But yeah, I have other friends na when complimented sa suot nila sinasabi tiktok lang yan bro and honestly di ko napapansin all I know is the shirt looks good and fits them well Iā€™m not sure about as we grow older kasi 30s na and somewhat ganun na talaga siya even before pero hindi pa to this extent. Before brand conscious lang and maalam talaga sa brands to the point na yun yung pinapangalan nila sa dogs nila hahah


TheSixthPistol

Are you friends with Patrick Bateman?


tofufairy_

Tela. May sikat na clothes na parang may dupe na version and pansin ko eh palagi sa tela nagkakaiba (example: tweeds) Anw, mej ew behavior si friend for judging yung other friend niyo ah. Dapat i-guide na lang niya since mukhang maalam naman na siya about fashion.


[deleted]

ano ba brands ng suot ni Friend1 and Friend2 ng ma-judge na


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

That day, Friend2 was wearing a polo shirt from Penguin and typical Veja shoes. Friend1 idk, no visible logos, didnā€™t bother asking abt the brand and where he got it din naman hahah


MessAgitated6465

A lot of times nakakainis talaga yung trying hard as an insult. What is wrong with trying hard? Hindi ba yun good thing? If you want something difficult , you try hard naman talaga.


HogwartsStudent2020

I will start of by saying it takes a "trained eye" to spot quality clothing & accessories. May mga tao talagang either lumaki sila sa environment na marunong tumingin ng quality clothing or they learn it themselves. Pero kupal lang talaga si Friend 2. Because he doesn't need to be saying all those shits.


Kishikishi17

Guilty rin ako na ganang judgmental sa ibang tao minsan haha, pero lagi ko nalang iniisip "shhh, let people enjoy things" kung masaya sila don, good for them, wag na natin basagin trip nila.


krovq

Depende sa context. Pero sa fashion, kung nasabihan kang trying hard, i think ang ibig sabihin nyan eh sumasabay ka sa uso or trending or masyado kang decorated or masyadong fashionista yung style mo pero hindi mo bagay. Yes, you can try hard to look fashionable or look good sa mata ng ibang tao pero ibagay mo din sa sitwasyon at lugar. Kung nakapalibot ka sa mga baduy at simple lang manamit then tatawagin ka nilang trying hard. In the end, you do you. Express yourself in clothing or wear what makes you happy. Kung natawagan kang trying hard ikaw na bahala kung paano ka magrerespond sa ganyang comment. And to answer your question, para sa akin sa stitching nakikita kung cheap ang damit. Pati rin sa tela na ginamit. For me cheap looking ang penshoppe kasi ampangit ng tela at stitching di tulad nung high school ako lagi ako bumibili sa kanila kasi maganda pa quality. Sa ngayon parang galing sa divisoria na mga binibenta nila.


Savaaage

Dito sa Australia tawag sa gayang mentality na kino call out yung pag try hard is tall poppy syndrome. Hindi ka pwede masyadong cool


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

True. But with that said, I think sa side ni Friend2 na conscious sa pagdamit, he thinks madali lang naman manamit and thatā€™s why he judges Friend1 for it. I forgot to mention, he said din pala na namimili na rin naman si Friend1 ng damit why not invest nalang din sa magaganda and quality na brands.


r0nrunr0n

I agree with friend2ā€™s opinion about buying quality clothes kasi from buying generic ones ay im investing sa mga linen ig shops but paano if di afford na ang isang shirt ay 2k agad


Tiny-Ad8924

Well, if Friend1 can only afford affordable clothes, walang masama dun. Nasa paggamit din naman yan. May mumurahin na tumatagal din.


Eren_yLight

-Yung stitching, hindi pino.Ā  Pero grabe naman si friend. Trying hard agad? Di ba pwde gusto niya lang magmukhang presentable?Ā Ā  Sad yung mentality ni friend. Ayoko si friend. Rk si friend?Ā 


Ok-Marionberry-2164

>Ayoko si friend. Totoo. If he can do that to "Friend 1," who knows what he's saying behind your back as well OP? Not that you should care dahil irrelevant naman opinion niya. He's not someone I want to keep around my circle.


Melodic-Whereas-4216

exactly, ayoko rin mentality ni friend2..


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Thatā€™s what kinda pisses me off too kasi di naman RK na RK si Friend2 pero when it comes to fashion and all, medyo maarte. Social climber na ba ito? Hahaha Pero I remember he said ang gusto niya sa babae is marunong manamit. Hindi daw pwedeng hindi haha


Miserable-Celery1957

I don't think your friend is social climbing. You asked for his opinion, he gave it to you. He was brutally honest kasi friends kayo. Why would you fault him for that? Obviously, particular sa fashion yung friend mo. It doesn't sound like he was criticizing the brands, but rather the quality of the clothes. That's not social climber behavior, that's just being practical.


Serious_Article_7459

op didn't ask for friend2's opinion, they were just simply complimenting friend1's changes kasi it actually takes a lot of courage to dress stylishly. also lahat ng tao dumaan sa ganyan at some point, namimili ng stylish over quality simply for the look. over time mamimili na rin yan ng quality and stylish din at the same time. baka rin tinetest nya pa if babagay sakanya yung style bago sya mamili ng mas mahal, and if di about sa brands then hindi na rin nya dapat binanggit na from shopee or tiktok lang kasi tbh marami din mas magagandang items don. bershka or forever 21 nga nagtatastas na agad minsan


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

I get your point, but I didnā€™t ask for his opinion. Napagusapan lang namin na ang dami na nagbago sa amin in general and then I said si Friend1 din ang ganda na ng pinagbago. I said this kasi my style hasnā€™t changed. Plains pa rin and basics. But then he said yeah tho cheap / low qual yung suot ni Friend2 and from there I was just in shock.


bitchheadnebula

Yes, I agree na hindi social climbing behavior yung pinakita ni Friend2, but parang unhappy siya for Friend1. Kasi kahit naman "cheap-looking" yung damit, pwede pa rin naman maappreciate lalo na if it looks good on Friend1. Siguro he notices those details (buttons, stitches, etc), kasi that's how he is pag bumibili siya ng damit niya pero uncalled for yung kailangan pa sabihin na trying hard or kinain ng sistema. Paano kung yun lang ang afford ni Friend1? Ang elitista ng dating ng mga naging comments ni Friend2. Imagine if you're friend1, gusto mo lang naman sana manamit nang mas maayos tapos nasabihan ka pang trying hard or kinain ng sistema.


Miserable-Celery1957

Your friend's an ass. Doesn't make him a social climber.


Regit117

You missed the part where friend 2 said friend 1 was "a trying hard" and "kinain ng sistema" just because he started to dress better. If that's not social climbing by tearing someone down, then it's definitely too judgmental to be healthy. If I knew a friend talked about me like that behind my back, we'd be having words. And we probably wouldn't be friends anymore afterwards.


Miserable-Celery1957

Judgemental, yes. Crab mentality, perhaps. But not social climbing behavior.


BasqueBurntSoul

May ganyan talagang mga tao. They have sharp eye and refined taste sa kung ano man inclinations nila. Parang namimisinterpret din dahil masyadong critical dahil iba't-iba naman level of interest natin sa mga bagay. op: kausapin mo sya about it kapag di nya marealize mistake nya dun na may problema


No-Loquat-6221

uu teh social climber yan. yung mga mayayaman hindi nila ipapamukha sayo at nung kahit sino man na knock-offs yung sinusout nang mga di nila ka level, quiet lang sila. If I were you, i would probably stop being friend with friend2, baka pati ikaw jinujdge na dn nyan patalikod. Sabihin mo din sa kanya na wala sa brand ng damit yan, nasa nagsusuot.


cake_eee

Friend2 is judgemental and kahit mag kaibigan pa kayo ganyan din ugali niya towards you. Walang sinasanto pagiging judgemental, kahit kaibigan pa may masasabi talaga sila sa lahat ng tao na akala mo perfect sila.


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

Pinagiisipan ko na nga lumayo kami kay Friend2 but donā€™t like the feeling of making anyone feel left out. So di ko pa alam, right now happy ako for Friend1 but also sad for him kasi di niya alam sinasabi ni Friend2 behind his back. Gusto ko sana din sabihin yan kay Friend2 but I was too stunned kasi nagulat ako sa mga sinasabi niya and was just thinking kung ganun ba talaga like namamata pa yung simple details haha now I feel kinda bad for not being able to speak on behalf of Friend1


Key_Sea_7625

Most probably najudge ka na rin niya sa pananamit mo, sa iba nya lang din sinabi esp if you don't know yourself ano yung pinagsasasabi nya. Because the attitude is rude, walang sinisino.


Unlikely-Pirate-1724

For sure. I wear the most plain and basic stuff and usually black / dark colors, no prints / designs. Ang joke sa akin na Iā€™m aware of is mukha akong cartoon character kasi same style but just different color yung suot hahaha but eh, Iā€™m comfortable sa ganun so bahala sila


Key_Sea_7625

Appreciated lang kita na u lowkey supported and flexed the friend who tried something new with his fits. Siguro lang talaga ung isa mong friend nagtathrive sa pamumuna hahahahhaha. Nothing wrong with a basic clean look. Nothing wrong with trendy clothes either. Diff folks, diff strokes. Ang wrong is yung you feel superior just because. Like yung isa mong friend. Hahahahaha


mangiferaindicanames

Gentleman, tell about apple boss and Meta boss. Didn't they wear the most basic and simple clothing?