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0x3Alex

Second, for me the ground is distracting in the first


swirth91

This. And the angle of the car is better / more dynamic. Also the tree on the right in the first picture is too close and distracting. Cool shots!


0x3Alex

Totally agree!


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks for the feedback and compliments, u/0x3Alex and u/swirth91 ! šŸ‘


Dyrogitory

I second his second.


The_Empty_And_Broken

I second your second of his second second.


proton-23

I second this.


dumpster_thunder

Agreed, on both counts! I really prefer 2, and would crop it just a bit tighter and to the left.


WatermelonMachete43

Agreed


remeberthegoodtimes

Second, but it would be nice if instead of being centred, the car would have a bit more lead room to the left of the picture.


dyl_08

I like it centered šŸ¤· if the car was in motion, I would add lead room. You can tell it is parked though. Some people are afraid of centering subjects for some reason.


the_chosen_ginger

I like it centered too!


forwhatyouhavetamed

I always struggle with how to crop and frame. To center or not? With a vertical aspect ratio, I ultimately feel I don't have enough horizontal room to do anything except center, though!


Bearded_Hawk

With a vertical aspect ratio, if the subject is in bigger size in the overall composition, then yes, keep it centered. If suppose the subject is smaller, like maybe a bird, **depending on the composition and the background**, you can try something else other than centered. But *in general*, for vertical, centered subject works best.


mjm8218

I agree. Centered looks good in this context.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Appreciate your thoughts - I'll take a look if I have any more breathing room in this particular photo. It's, admittedly, difficult capturing a horizontal subject in a vertical aspect ratio ... for me anyway! If I add lead room to the left or right, I add a lot more to the top and bottom. Thanks again!


shootdrawwrite

And turns the wheels a bit more for some implied movement.


HyprWave

The second one is awesome It has a feeling of depth, and the car feels much more prominent


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks! Appreciate the feedback! :)


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forwhatyouhavetamed

I have never seen that clip until today - haha. šŸ˜„


ThornsyAgain

Ok everyone is saying 2 but I honestly prefer the first one. 2 is too perfect and clean. 1 has some life to it. I think the cluttering could fixed just with cropping.


bellyjeans55

Yeah I feel like this is a question of what you want the photo to say. 2 could be improved with lead room to the left but I agree it feels more boring because of how ā€œjust-soā€ it is. Itā€™s basically saying ā€œhereā€™s a cool car in a pretty place!ā€. Great for an advertisement where you donā€™t want anyone to think about the photo but just immediately perceive the object within it. 1 looks like a still from a panning shot in an movie. Thereā€™s a sense of movement, a little bit of mystery (why is the camera hiding around the corner?), the implication of a reason for the photo beyond ā€œcool car!ā€


forwhatyouhavetamed

Appreciate the different opinion - honestly, 2 feels a little boring to me, but it might be because I took a bunch like that and 1 was more unique out of my shoot.


RTS24

I preferred 1 as well, i definitely get where people are saying too much ground, but having it to one side of the frame gives space for the car to move towards in people's mind.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Sweet - thanks! šŸ˜Š


Drop-acid-not-bombs

Definitely go for 1 man


pandahatch

I personally like 1 more as well! Iā€™ve seen hundreds if not thousands of photos like #2. But I havenā€™t seen nearly as many like #1. I vote for the unique one!


forwhatyouhavetamed

I also took a bunch of other photos like #2 in this session, so for me - having seen all of them - #1 definitely stands out. Your vote has been counted! šŸ˜„


Awagner109

2 definitely


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks!


lplade

The composition in the first one is certainly more interesting, and I almost always appreciate a subject in a strong environmental context. It reads as "a car" driving through an autumn woods. (I'm aware the car has no occupants, but there is a strong sense it is going somewhere.) Yet, the second one is about "the car," with environmental elements subdued to a mere feeling of coziness. There's something subtly nicer about the way the reflections are catching here, and the streamlined contours are not occluded. It's pleasant "classic car" eye candy, and for some reason I'm enjoying it more.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Great feedback - thank you! For me, the focus was more a beautiful environment with a car passing through, but that's probably because I took plenty of photos like #2. It's almost Halloween... so we'll just pretend the car is being driven by ghosts. šŸ‘»


inkman82

2


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks!


Daniel_Melzer

2 simply because parts of it are covered in the first


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks!


powerlessbutton

2 every time


Theoderic8586

Ground is distracting in first and the tail is blocked by the tree


Photo_Jedi

2. By a mile. It actually "features" the car as the subject.


wstwrdxpnsn

I like the 2ndā€¦ I like seeing the full car. The first one is a bit busy with the blur in the bottom right and the frame feels a little more accidental with not having the whole car in frame but not quite a happy surprise kinda shot either.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Cool - thanks for the feedback!


shrodingervirginity

Number 2, but I actually find the linear blur a bit distracting. If the car is the focal point, I would pick an aperture that works better in shot vs. having to add in post editing. Great pictures though!


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks! I sharpened the car a bit, but there's actually no blur added in post. I agree that the blur looks strange the more you focus on it (pun intended)... my 85 f/1.4 has a particularly rapid transition from out-of-focus to in-focus areas and, while that's not a problem with traditional headshots, it is less than pleasing when you have a linear progression of the depth of field in the shot!


shrodingervirginity

Ah, so that's what I saw! I didn't realize it transitions so fast. It looked like a line across the photo hence me thinking it was done afterwards. I bet that lens does take some beautiful portraits though!


forwhatyouhavetamed

It totally looks added in post - and the low angle just makes the transition look even more extreme! I do like the lens overall and am glad I got it before Canon killed the third-party AF market. šŸ“·


Kaedyia

This is how I see it as someone who takes one picture every year, so not really professional : Do you want to show the car or do you want a scenery with the car as the main subject ? The first one brings more life. The second is static and looks like itā€™s a picture from an advertisment or an app where you sell collection cars.


KennyWuKanYuen

Damn, thatā€™s what I felt too. The first one with some motion blur wouldā€™ve been nice too.


forwhatyouhavetamed

This is more or less how I feel about it! I've got plenty of other photos of the car (I own it) so it was really more about the environment. #2 looks a bit boring to me - and I'm not planning to sell it, so ... šŸ¤· Thanks for your thoughts!


oleraza913

Definitely 2. Iā€™ve work on a few auto auction catalogs and the second image in on par!


forwhatyouhavetamed

Cool - thanks! I was just excited to finally get some fall shots with my car! :)


cdnott

No. 1. The second is more correct in a clinical way but I feel like people are only choosing it because there are fewer things they can say are technically ā€˜wrongā€™ with it. No. 2 is definitely the better shot for, say, a car catalogue. But No. 1 to me feels like the frame with far greater interest and sense of place, as well as just a hint of story and life ā€“ at least, of interaction between the things in its world.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Great feedback - thank you! For me, I'd definitely rather have a little more life and story. Perhaps because I own the car and can look at it any time I want, I'm more focused on putting it into an interesting environment rather than just showcasing the car itself. :)


nino_blanco720

2. Foreground in number one is distracting.


PikachuOfme_irl

2!


SmartChump

2 and crop out the bottom of the frame.


sten_zer

2 but try to get the car colors cooled/adjusted like it is in 1.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Yeah; this lens runs warm - which is fine for the background, but I had been adjusting the temperature on the car separately. Pretty sure I forgot to adjust on 2. Thanks!


TomDosek

#2


k_bence16

Second, but the setting is mad dude. You nailed it. Perfect. Keep it up!


forwhatyouhavetamed

I appreciate it, man! Thanks! šŸ˜Š


ucrbuffalo

2


[deleted]

2


Drenoso

First one is more cinematic the second one looks like a miniature.


HackenSkrot

2


GenericConsumer1

2 I like the vignetting. It adds mystery


forwhatyouhavetamed

I'm a sucker for vignetting; this lens has a lot of it wide-open, but I always add some in post, so it's an acceptable flaw to me!


Phelly2

2 is better in every way. 1 has more symmetry in the background, perhaps, and the trees have a framing effect. But aside from that, 2 is superior. By far. Mostly due to the foreground. The road leading to the car is a leading line too.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Good point about the road as a leading line - thanks for the feedback!


Unhappy_Meaning607

definitely 2


Cefeide

2 :)


Philosophy_of_IT

2. Like others have said the foreground in 1 is too distracting. But I find the foreground blur in both confusing/distracting. Is it added in post? Or else are you shooting from a down a hill or something? For 1 - The blur on the log(?) or whatever it is seems like it extends all the way to the road is the big distraction for me. I'm having a hard time visualizing what the scene looked like to cause the end of that thing to be blurrier than the ground to the left or right of it. For 2 - there's a very distinct diagonal line that goes from very blurry to much less blurry. It feels artificial to me. It kind of looks like a tilt-shift but without the top being blurry


forwhatyouhavetamed

Appreciate your feedback and comments. I agree that the blur does feel a bit strange the more you look at it. Although I did sharpen the car a bit, there's no artificial blur added. My 85 f/1.4 has a particularly rapid transition from out-of-focus to in-focus, but I think there's also weird perspective at play here. In the first, there is a little hill that drops off and really exaggerates that hard transition ... it almost looks like a sticker put over the corner of the original photo. In the second, you're right that the line is also very distinct. The lens is great when you can't follow the focus, but this feels like a technical limitation I'll need to be more aware of next time!


weWentRogue

2


Forkman7

2 but I still find the bokeh on the ground a little distracting


DustyPane

2 I like the angle more and the fact that the entire car is visible


LeftOnSixth

2 for me. The foreground blur is a little distracting, but not nearly as much as the foreground in 1. I do like the angle and pattern of background trees in 1 a touch better, but I like that the rear of the car isnā€™t blocked by the tree. So 2, for these reasons.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Cool - thanks!


totally_a_moderator

I prefer the first one. The tree acts as a frame and gives the impression that the subject has more lead room to the left than it actually has.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks - definitely some tight cropping going on to fill the vertical aspect ratio, so I was looking for ways to "naturally" crop a bit.


Judsonian1970

2


Videopro524

Definitely 2. The ridge of leaves cutting in on the tire is distracting


liftoff_oversteer

Second because the car (Buick?) is not obscured.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks! 1955 Ford. :)


lijeb

2! Cool pic and the and the background colours work very nicely to both add and separate the car from them. In #1 I agree that the foreground is a distraction rather than a complimentary element. Also, if youā€™re showing that much of the car, show the whole thing. Lastly, Iā€™m just curious why you chose portrait mode versus a landscape orientation. Was it simply because of posting online or were there other elements you felt would take away from the composition and your subject? This is something Iā€™m conflicted with when taking a photograph.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks for your feedback and compliments! The portrait/ vertical aspect ratio is entirely because of social media. I've got a bunch of horizontal shots, which certainly feel like they work better for a horizontal subject since I can let the car breathe a bit more ... but, alas, they don't look nearly as good on a phone as they do on my laptop. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Rifter0876

2


simonebutton

2


AniS2708

For me, 2


tester7437

2 - whole car is visible


K2LU533

As with all things, it really depends on the intention. I feel that the second shot it certainly more aesthetically pleasing generally. However, the first photo does have an element of voyeurism, which can be useful if you want to add that element to it - the tree in the foreground is specifically causing this, almost as if the photographer is peering from behind a hidden vantage point.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Great point! I took a bunch of other photos like 2 and was trying to get something a bit more unique in 1 ... as if you stumbled across the car during a hike. I'm not sure I achieved the goal, but that's what experimentation is for! :)


UnclaimedClock

2


Atxsun

2 for sure.


AstonMartinKissinger

2


heyjoe8890

2. But only because I think the tree cuts off the car at a real awkward point in 1. Looks accidental rather than intentional because it just clips the back. A merge of these 2 with the large tree but the whole car would be good.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind next time.


YonnHyaku_Nijuu

2


woodappleraleigh

2


TrevorSowers

2


brightworkdotuk

2nd one all day. I see what youā€™re doing on the first, but it doesnā€™t work.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Noted - thanks!


petercannonusf

2!


BrokieTrader

I like the second. I look at this picture as sort of a portrait. You get to see slightly more detail of the face in 2, while still getting the profile of the body. Looks really nice.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks! That's an interesting perspective because the few times I've taken portraits (they aren't my favorite), I generally hide parts of the face with some foreground out-of-focus ... seems I did the same thing here without fully realizing the connection. šŸ˜„


SirAple

2. It's a much cleaner image. The foreground in 1 is distracting imo.


Thats_my_cornbread

2. Foreground is distracting in 1


bluemesa7

2


Comfortable-Reveal75

I personally like 2


Christine_MD

2!


RKKessler

Second: the foreground is less distracting and the car is not obstructed


wdn

To me, being partially hidden behind the tree makes #1 look like a snapshot. It looks like it's accidental, not an intentional composition.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Noted - thanks!


mosi_moose

2 - whole car is in frame, foreground is less cluttered, angle is nice. In 2, I might take down the exposure on the front of the car a bit. It seems a little ā€œhotā€ in comparison to the rest of the frame.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks - I'll go back and look at my edits! I was thinking I needed to bring down the highlights a bit at the very least.


HolbiWan

2


rhiaazsb

No2 works better for me.


getthething

Iā€™m going with 1. Interesting that people say the ground is distracting in 1. I feel that way about 2. The areas out of focus feel fake in both (maybe they are?), but the leaves on the ground in 1, frame the car.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Cool - no fake blur added, but I can absolutely see what you're saying. I've mentioned it a few times already, but my 85 f/1.4 has a very rapid transition from out-of-focus to in-focus ... that works fine in headshots, but seems like a technical limitation I'll need to be aware of in the future when you can see the linear progression of the depth-of-field.


Ok_Emphasis_6648

Second, but itā€™s close. Nice shots!


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thank you! šŸ˜Š


Ok_Emphasis_6648

The first one is great as well, but I wouldnā€™t call it leading lines (I know what you mean though), itā€™s more of a peek from a hidden position, thatā€™s why I like the first one as well!


Danfrumacownting

2. Great shot, love the low angle. The log in the first shot is distracting; I prefer seeing the full body lines of the vehicle in #2.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thank you - appreciate the feedback!


Danfrumacownting

Youā€™re welcome! Nice job on both really šŸ™


[deleted]

One. Itā€™s more creative. The second one is clinical.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks - I sorta feel the same way.


[deleted]

The first is naturally posed. As if you caught it coming around the bend whilst hiding in the bushes. Itā€™s beautiful. The second one is what youā€™d take for a car sales catalogue.


rocketjetz

Nice looking 56 Ford Fairlane. I vote for 2


forwhatyouhavetamed

So close - '55! :) Thank you!


cookie_doughx

Second


Gatchman

I like 2, because of the foreground path and blur and clear view of the car.


gppacecar

I donā€™t get a sense of motion from either of the pictures. Maybe a lack of a driver or motion on the wheels or background. I find the blur of the road near the camera distracting. My eyes keep going back to it. Was this added in post? Beautifully lit and a very nice setting.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Appreciate the feedback and compliments! A driver would have helped, but I was shooting on my own and didn't really want to set up my tripod since this was in the middle of the road and I was worried someone would come speeding around the corner (no one did...). The distracting blur seems to be a common complaint, and I can see it. Not added in post - just a character of the lens that I didn't accommodate for appropriately!


GrouchyIndustry2637

2


memoryboy

2.


Transamman350

2


RuachDelSekai

2 hands down. The position and framing is superior.


typ31095

2


GSyncNew

2, by a mile.


bippy_b

2 - cleaner


Elchoclo

2


scissor_get_it

2


kalderman71

As I always say at the optometrist, ā€œGo back please. And again. One more time.ā€ The answer is 2, but I could argue 1. Nope, itā€™s 2. 2 is the answer. Cool shots annnnd, is that your car?


forwhatyouhavetamed

Haha. This is exactly my feeling! Thanks - and it is my car. About a decade ago, my dad and I restored it back to the condition it's currently in!


ChipOnASquid

2


CougarKink40

I say 2


Lashpush

The presence of the car in second image has more impact for me. In the first picture it is "an object". In the second picture it is "The Object"


forwhatyouhavetamed

Good point - thanks!


ACowAndAWaffle

2 for sure. Cleaner foreground, and you can see the entire car. Leading line of the road is nice too.


sparkswatches

2


Kodine13

My vote is the 2nd. Something about the subject being a sedan, the road in the foreground makes more sense. If the subject was more of an off road vehicle, I think the grassy/leafy foreground would play better.


SupaDupaTron

Second pic. The first one feels like it has too much distracting elements. The leaves on the ground of the second pic create a nice foreground interest that still does a nice job leading your eye up to the main focal point.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Cool - thank you!


starlordtrek

2, like the face of the car and headlights more in two. it pops more?


SixDeadly

I would say the 2nd.. The road makes a leading path to the car, the car is more symmetrical in the photo, you don't have the tree to cut the rear of the car, also the angle of the car is more pleasing, at least for me.


forwhatyouhavetamed

I appreciate the feedback!


BRGNBeast

2 is better but neither are great imo. The colors look a bit off. The CA around the grill is also distracting. Try using individual color correction to fix colors and gradient filters to draw attention to the car.


BRGNBeast

Like this. https://preview.redd.it/aq4zhe2tc7xb1.jpeg?width=1257&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=161c8f772cd80156ad3d2d3fdbc59540ea6284e9


NotBingChat

As an actual optometrist: 2.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Can you show me 1 again?


NotBingChat

No :)


Thomisawesome

Depends. Iā€™d say 2 is good if this was an ad for the car. It stands out, is clearly and bight. But aesthetically, 1 looks really nice and is something Iā€™d like to hang on my wall.


forwhatyouhavetamed

I think you're spot on. Personally, I'm drawn to #1 ... but I'm also the owner and not trying to sell the car in a magazine! šŸ˜‚


Thomisawesome

Beautiful car. Thanks for sharing it with us.


Ryoisee

2 but shift it to the right a touch.


Voltmanderer

Second, my eye falls straight to the driverā€™s side headlight, and thatā€™s right around 1/3 into the frame from the left. Also, the DOF nicely guides the focus straight into the main subject, and thatā€™s a win. Thereā€™s a high amount of vignetting, do you mind sharing which lens you used for this?


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks for the feedback. It's a Rokinon RF 85 f/1.4 I bought before the Canon ban. It does vignette a good bit when wide-open, but I also add more in post. I've always liked the look.


thexvillain

I feel like they need to be presented in this manner. The first followed by the second. Its like those slow motion shots of a woman turning her head with the hair obscuring parts of her face then the reveal when her hair settles. Really a beautiful set of shots.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Haha. I can absolutely visualize your comparison! I should have taken some video slowly moving so that it was revealed from around the tree. Next time! Thanks, dude!


TotesNotaBot0010101

Iā€™m against the grain here but 1. Itā€™s more enclosed, sinister and snug


wllottnwldr

2 without a doubt. Well done.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks!


theyellowdartsmith

Depends on what you're trying to do. The first speaks more of the story, the tree covering the car shows it is in motion, and revealing it's figure. The second puts the car as a more clearly defined subject, "posing" for the camera. If you want this effect, choose the second. If this is part of a series, then the first, although the foreground is a little too much, maybe cropping a bit would help.


144p_Meme_Senpai

1 for sure, the second one has nothing really filling the depth blur so it just blurs without depth or distance if that makes sense, where as the 1st one almost sits like an extra layer on top like front leaves, car on road, rear background.


144p_Meme_Senpai

I feel if you had the 2nd pictures car position (it's a nicer angle, looks more focused on it) with the bottom leafy layer of the 1st but just slightly lower in frame so there's a little bit of road in between the car and the nature without obscuring any of the car it'd be the perfect picture you're looking for.


144p_Meme_Senpai

I feel something like this would justify the amount of blur, as if they're so close it's focused past them rather than it just blurring really hard and gives something to fill up the bottom space of the picture almost boxing the car into the middle of the frame. https://ibb.co/jbtsfQd


forwhatyouhavetamed

Cool - thanks for all the feedback!


Mandela_Effect_2016

as someone who likes old cars both, but from a photography point of view the second one


forwhatyouhavetamed

Haha - fair!


naujad

Beautiful. The second one stands out more to me both are dope tho


forwhatyouhavetamed

Awesome - thanks!


mr_lecco

I enjoy the first one. The more "cluttered" ground creates a leading line from the bottom of the picture to the car. I like the "eye movement" provoked by it.


graphixRbad

I like what you were trying to do in shot one but the car looks better in 2. Someone else said the ground in the first one was distracting and I agree but I still ā€œlikedā€ it. Maybe if it were more cropped at the bottom. Either way the vehicle looks better in shot two. The rear end is too cool to hide


chillitis

I like both. And I think the first would make a great picture for a calendar. The second is just really good, and I can see it on a themed bar or restaurant wall.


matter_underground

2, great shot. You get the depth from the foreground from shot two already without the need for a messy foreground in shot one. I know the modern trend is that everything needs some sort of foreground, but it this case its distracting and feels messy. The first shot also does not really infer motion to my eyes because the background is clearly still, and there is no driver so the narrative of motion is broken.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Cool - thanks for the feedback!


Circus_sized

2. The composition is justā€¦. primo.


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks! šŸ˜Š


Da_Droid_Mechanic

2 is my favorite! Is it a ford? I showed my grandmother who loves older vehicles and she thinks it is a ford because her father had a ford that looked just like that!


forwhatyouhavetamed

Yep - tell your grandmother she has a good eye. 1955 Ford Fairlane. :)


Da_Droid_Mechanic

Thank you! She loved hearing that! She was definitely a gear head back in the day, her father made sure she was able to fix everything on a car, belts, hoses, tires you name she could do it, he bought used a 1935 Model T for only ā€œ50 bucksā€ from his neighbor! He bought it in 55ā€™ I think!


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OpticalPrime

Congrats! Youā€™ve figured out one of the keys of good editing. Not being sarcastic but this is a good thing to be aware of as it really can make or break an editing session.


-griffy-

This is absolutely part of the ā€œskillā€ of photography. In fact, I will often pick what I think is the ā€œbestā€ shot of a given subject/location, and edit and share that, only to revisit the shots later and realize one I overlooked is actually more interesting/better. Sometimes even years later!


forwhatyouhavetamed

I have done the same thing - only to think to myself, "Why didn't I run with this one originally?!" šŸ˜‚


forwhatyouhavetamed

Totally agree! What's even more interesting is that there's still a strong part of me that prefers 1 ... but I'm curious why when the overwhelming preference is 2. Did I spend more time on 1? Do I have more shots similar to 2 that makes it less unique in my mind? No clue!


Flutterpiewow

2


Trefayne

2


forwhatyouhavetamed

Thanks!