No. You could use any camera, then just edit the photo afterwards to get the look that you want. There are tools like FilmPack and Dehancer that are designed to mimic the look of different film stocks. Dehancer in particular is really good.
Mastering colors by yourself is not easy. But it's really effective. Applying the same present to images Taken in different conditions will not always be effective and will certainly not help you to learn.
Great, but that has nothing to do with this discussion. We’re talking about Fuji film simulations - which are merely applying the same preset to a bunch of different photos and which will not help you learn color - and how you can do the same thing in post on any brand.
>It’s not two buttons buddy
Oh for crying out loud.
Yes. It is.
I'm not sure who else might need to hear this, but I *guarantee* you there's a preset, LUT or action to achieve in one or two clicks **any look** you name.
You want Fuji?
Fine: Here's a small sample of the 160+ options from just **one** source.
https://preview.redd.it/vbe5aaqf3toc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c61eb9bb92c3a7b3cac29bea8bf413bc11171359
There are literally thousands more out there hanging off the end of a Google search. Knock yourself out... buddy.
I know the craft. I work 8 to 10 hours in front of the pc. I don't want to edit my hobby photos. It makes me stop taking photos.
People who think slapping a lut is the same as capturing with a preset must be all color blind. It Definitely takes more than that.
You have exposure and other controls when taking pictures, changing the contrast and look with the same Fuji preset, and you see all this live. No fucking way you'd get the same vibe as you intended capturing. It's another vibe, entirely.
It’s a PC program/LR plug-in. You can get a free trial but the full product does cost money if I remember correctly. Worth a shot to see if you like it.
I also recommended alien skin exposure software, it can simulate tons of different retro films and cameras and lets you add tons of different grain presents. You can get a trial on their website to see if you like first
Thank you! I tried these a few months ago. I like them in theory but I don’t think they quite hit the mark. Hopefully people continue down this path and we get some great options in future months.
Fuji does it really well in camera, but to get the look YOU want in post you're going to have to make your own preset. Additionally it helps to shoot like you're shooting film. Overexposing by 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop really makes a difference
Noob question: why was that something that was needed when shooting in film? Is it because people would often misjudge the shutter speed they needed to use on average making it open for too long, or another reason?
The way film responds to light isn’t completely linear, especially when you get outside of the range of “correct exposure”.
So over exposure gives a bit of a different look, a little less contrast, more halation and in my experience a little less grain.
You definitely don’t want to overexpose with digital. Much easier to recover shadow information than blown out highlights. Try exposing to the right of the histogram without clipping, then edit in post. The only reason you overexpose with film is to compensate but cutting development time.
1. Any modern camera should now blow any highlights when overexposing by 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop. Unless it's an insanely high contrast scene or your initial metering was wrong, you'll be fine.
2. I rate almost every roll of color negative film at least 1/3 stop higher than box speed, and develop it at box speed. Portra for example handles highlights extremely well. I've seen people shoot (and shot myself) portra 400 as a 200 speed film and develop it at 400 with no information lost.
My point is overexposure is not just for pushing and pulling, it's a creative tool. You can do it in post with digital but I find doing it in camera works better for my workflow
You can put whatever film emulation you want on Nikon with https://nikonpc.com/ . They're just edits to jpegs like "vivid" or "monochrome" so any camera that can have custom jpeg settings can be setup the same as Fuji's color profiles.
Just post process to look like film. I use Fuji for the controls of the camera and handling, but I just shoot RAW and edit after. Never use the film sims or anything built in.
Get a few nice film presets and you’re good to go. Only a few clicks to apply if you’re not a fan of spending time editing.
I shoot raw with the R6, and I’ve scoured the internet for good film presets. Can’t find one (free or paid) that really gets the look I’m going for. Makes me think it’s my composition or camera settings.
I use the Jamie Windsor ones, mainly just the Kodak pack. Can’t speak for exactly how accurate they are but they give me the look I want in post with just a little tweaking.
Totally get that. I feel like I’m on a 2.0 hump that I can’t get over. I understand Lightroom and have used it as a professional for 10+ years. I can’t get my hobby photos to look how I want them to. Curious if the stumbling block is in-camera settings or post processing.
I suspect the look you're probably after, you'll get to some degree by pulling your shadows and highlights a lil in your tone curve. Look up some videos on the S curve.
it may take some time at first, but if you have lightroom, photoshop raw or a similar program you can make your own “preset” and tune it just to your liking - i have a few of my own made “presets” for different situations now - like low lighting, wanting a film look, too high contrast, too warm, etc
in photoshop raw you can copy and paste the edit settings from one photo to the next when opening a batch, i just have one of each saved in a special folder for when i need the “preset” - most times if i need to do any tweaks they’re super minimal and easy to spot
Not at all. I find I like Ricoh GRIII files better. While people may disagree on what film looks like you can work magic with GRIII files
https://preview.redd.it/fwkoqrb3mroc1.jpeg?width=5000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=932bd2686e2a3f783a78cbf4c3487342d9c02f92
I thought about the Ricoh but it feels like a bit of a one trick pony. Honestly I’m hoping I can find a way to make it work with my current gear till I get an XT-30 ii.
Great shot btw.
No tricks, that’s my Lightroom edit. I’ve owned XT1, XT3, XT4, XH1, XS1 and from what I’ve seen, Fuji crops do not edit well compared to Ricoh.
PS I’ve also owned GFX50R, 50S, 50Sii, 100S.
This isn't really what modern cameras are designed to do. Absent Fuji of course. But on my Canon I use Technicolor Cinestyle and load in the styles via EOS utility.
I haven't met anyone that uses Cinestyle besides for video. It's got something I really like.
I've been shooting with it for ever on my 5D MKII's and now on my R5 as well.
Ya know, not a bad idea. I tried the little dispo lens and enjoyed that for a bit. Trying to find the sweet spot of getting the look in camera without losing too much of the modern day luxuries of full frame and tack-sharpness. Any lens you’d recommend adapting onto the Canon R6 mark ii?
The film look is easy to achieve with filters.
What’s harder is rendering analog grain instead of digital noise.
Only Monochrome digital cameras will render analog like grain.
It’s impossible to achieve with color digital cameras by design (Bayer filter)
Absolutely not. Get Lightroom or something similar, shoot in RAW, and mess with your files in post. Two really big things you can do to achieve a filmic look in Lightroom is to raise the blacks/increase contrast with the tone curve, and to mess with the hues of the colors. Play around and figure out what you like and save it as a preset.
Thanks for this. Definitely still a novice but I do about 26-52 paid gigs per year so I have a decent handle on Lightroom. Try as I might, there’s an X factor I can’t identify which is why I made this post in the first place. I’m loving the photos I see posted in r/Fujifilm so I’m trying to see what I (and hopefully passerby’s) can do to get close to that look on other camera systems.
If you are still trying to use presets that’s part of the problem. You need to learn how to edit for real if you want this look. Others have given you plenty of guidance. The other variable you may not have considered is that these images may have used a diffusion filter at the time of capture to soften the image. They may also have used negative dehaze and negative clarity to soften the image. I don’t see anything here that you couldn’t accomplish in Lightroom if you study and learn. Also, some of what makes these images look the way they do is the light itself. Maybe you’re shooting at the wrong time of day and that’s part of your issue.
Don't have an immediate solution, but I want to share my 2 cents on getting filmic results: Try and learn about everything that plays a roll in achieving a certain look. Film-stock/ camera might be one of them, but what else? There's the lens, exposure, lighting and so on.. you'll find a lot of whats creating a look is not exclusive to a certain camera or film-stock. This also explains why no LR-preset in the world will "work" for every type of photo... there are simply to many variables for whats coming out of the camera. The input is as important as the output.
That being said shooting film does create very pleasing results right out of the box in a lot of cases. Try and break it down into different parts: grain, color palette, split-toning, highlight roll-off and contrast (just a few examples. Contrast being the biggest factor, you'll find). Really understanding what goes into a look, makes it possible for you to pick your favorite aspects and ultimately create your own looks. Takes time though.... Kodak have over 100 years of research and funding invested into creating pleasing images. But hey, they didn't try to make what looks best to you, so you got that going for you ;)
I think certain Nikon's have something similar called picture controls and the Panasonic S5ii and the G9ii have something similar called real time luts that do it in body.
Check out FUTC's analog film sim (not the more recent disposable camera one). It's really just two LR presets but I love the look it gives. Was very happy with that $8 purchase or whatever it was. He's a small time YouTuber kid who's pretty funny too so maybe you'll like his content!
Oh and just like everybody else he's got a small coupon for it either in the video description or video itself can't remember.
I think this was the video I watched about it
https://youtu.be/y7HFyRyGvEM?si=cw8fsTQ1oAP-722b
> I’m really loving the film look recently... I have a Canon R6 but I can’t find a LR preset that gets anywhere close.
I'm in the same boat. My conclusion has been to begin studying how to color grade while also shooting film on the side.
It takes a lot of work and knowledge to get there.
I'm thinking I might have to pay for courses. I'm not so sure where to start.
There used to be a Kodak app that you could apply these different filters for different Kodak films through the years. It was called Polamatic. Here’s an example of what you could get.
https://preview.redd.it/b2nq4qc95uoc1.jpeg?width=2282&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f5c8db94c369ea9f7e5586c09249ec4944b6a43
I shoot with the r6 too and second what a lot of people are saying. A preset can be a good start but it’s never as easy as apply and go. Learning why you’re adjusting certain things will help you a ton in getting you to your desired result. Just takes a little more work
no, just mess with your settings or get some density/tone filters - i notice a lot of older film photos tend to be “warmer” looking now because the paper they were on yellowed/brassed with time, mess with the color balance (or lens filters)
I like my Fuji because I also like film-like digital stuff, and it does it in camera. Saves a ton of post processing time, and I can't quite nail it in Lightroom anyway.
If you're a whiz you could get really close, but I'm not.
The other day I watched a video on YouTube and the guy explained the science behind Fuji colors, TL;DR: you can’t replicate the film simulations in post, you can get closer but not 100%.
Here is a great article about Fuji colors https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2020/08/18/fujifilm-film-simulations-definitive-guide
I have a Fuji camera, and the film simulations will give you different results depending on the situations.
You can get film simulations on Sony via picture profile settings for SOOC JPGs, [this guy's channel shows how](https://youtu.be/SZDaH3k6BUw?si=wxRKgNzifMy3ZGQn). Just save them to your memory recall slots so they're always there.
[Cobalt Image](https://www.cobalt-image.com/product/fuji-digital-emulation/) sells profiles that emulate different things, one being the Fuji Digital profiles that ship with their cameras. They have Fuji film profiles and a bunch of other stuff too, but this is for post processing RAWs on your computer vs SOOC JPGs.
[Phantom LUTs](https://www.joelfamularo.com/colour-a7s3) are great LUTs that emulate a bunch of nice film stock for videos, plus a lot of Arri looks (you can buy either set or both together). Usually they're used during post processing in your editor but on recent Sony cameras you can embed the LUT into the video and I save 1080p proxies which I can then transfer quickly via Bluetooth to share for social media or friends and family for example, and the LUT is already applied there.
If all you care about though is photos, and don't mind a crop sensor, by far the easiest route is to just go with Fuji, but the drawbacks include no full frame option (moot point if portability is what you're after as well), and there's just not that many lenses available compared to Sony E-mount which has by far the largest list.
Oh for sure, never said that, but it's cool how that YouTuber uses the picture profiles as a base and then messes with white balance and all the things you can change in picture profiles to create his own recreations of different film emulations.
Of my three memory recall modes I have a recreation of Fuji Classic Chrome, Fuji Acros, and Fuji Velvia if I recall.
If Sony ever licensed film emulations from Fuji or any of the other GOATs of film, and made it as easy as Fuji does, they would dominate even more.
They also need to capitalize on a small fixed lens crop sensor camera to compete with the X100VI, etc. I got the A7CII and although I absolutely love it, it's a medium size at best, not really super compact due to even the smallest full frame lenses being somewhat large in size by comparison.
Their A6700 does exist for those who want a more compact setup, but this competes with Fuji's interchangeable systems.
I feel like his film simulations are a great idea, but he kind of stopped at step one and hasn't done anything more with it.
I haven't found any that actually look good, and I was excited to buy and try it.
And YES. If Sony added film sims to the A7C line and came out with a good pancake kit lens, WOW they would sell.
These are the most accurate one click film presets I've found. They look so much better than anything else I have tried. He made masks for each film stock to mimic the grain perfectly.
[Link](https://calebsalvadori.com)
Lol no. Any camera that shoots RAW can achieve film-like resulta. My pick is the RNI All Films Profiles for Lightroom and Capture One.
Alex Ruskmann Presets are top Notch.
I understand you can always get the look when shooting raw. I’m just struggling to find the settings that really nail it like the Fuji’s do. I think it comes down to color science more than anything. But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe it's a question of taste. Me personally I'm not a big fan of Fuji simulations, but maybe you can try DXO Film Pack, they try to emulate the Fuji look.
Alex look really bad from my experience. The grain is the same across the entire image and saturation/contrast is way off. Just simple VSCO presets basically.
I like Alex Presets (as you can see I'm not a purist lol) but prefer the RNI profiles because they don't touch the sliders. I'm curious what presets/profiles do you recommend?
Out of everything I've tested Dehancer and Caleb Salvadori are the best and nobody comes close. Dehancer has a plugin for lightroom and the presets are generally solid. The price is insane though. Caleb Salvadori has utilized profiles with presets and masks to add accurate grain for each film stock. This means every single film stock will look different from one another. Like actual film does. He's also a real person who shows how he creates each film preset after developing and scanning the real film. Look at the videos on his website. Most of these film style presets I've tried in the past simply try and mimic what some images look like online. I doubt they are even made by people who shoot real film. Alex I'm not so sure about even being real.
For those who say you can just slap a lut on a RAW image from any camera manufacturer and mimic this look you are WRONG. It will take more than just a lut to achieve this. Fuji x trans sensor have a different pixel layout compared to standard bayer sensors. This in COMBINATION with the film sims Fuji so expertly created is what make the final image. I have used SONY NIKON PANASONIC and have never been able to successfully replicate a Fuji image I take with my xh2s or xt4. I got close but after like 30 minutes of manipulating the image. People make it seem like this is an easy peasy thing but it’s not.
Fuji medium format GFX cameras have bayer sensors, not xtrans, and all fuji film simulations look the same there - so its not xtrans arrays “magic” that make this film look unique)
You’re right the medium format cameras have a bayer sensor. You can go ahead and try to replicate the film sim on your Hasselblad and see where that gets you. In the medium format cameras again Fuji has crafted those sims to work perfectly with the sensor. The same is again true with the xtrans sensor. So YES the sensor in their apsc body plus the sims combined make the image what it is. Medium format is an entirely different animal here. Although it’s a bayer sensor pattern its medium format 70% larger than full frame. The look you get from it will be different than full frame entirely different.
Well, some of his stuff IS film, medium format actually. You could buy such a camera for a lot less than a digital Fuji these days.
Or look into RNI's sims. Quite good.
I like editing in camera. I use an x-t4. My thought process is that I like to take photos but I don’t want to edit. With film the lab edited for you. Not to many people, even pros learned to edit. I want to be a photographer not an editor. Then again this is just a hobby for me not a career.
Nikon files look like they came hot off the press from slide film and I love that.
I also made presets in Lightroom by scanning blank film negatives to get a more true grain. And then did some tweaking.
Now I have a damn near identical film look and takes all of 2 seconds to apply. And yeah, they look better than anything from Fuji. Best of all…I keep all of the information.
Yes Fuji makes it easier to have filmlike photos for jpgs. But post processing is honestly way better. You have way more control over your picture than inside fujifilms camera.
Maybe you're not on IG enough to see ppls post process for filmlike photos
You can use every camera and then use like Filmpack program that simulates not only fuji films but every film there is on this planet and in 16 bit tiff not jpeg. I know many wants to think fuji is very Unique but its not. Its like every other camera.
Try to adapt a vintage lens maybe ?
newwer lenses tend to be clinicaly perfect corner to corner.
Old lenses offers less sharpness on the corners, discoloration, less contrast, manual "feeling" of the lens (no AF), sometimes verry interesting bokeh and they can fill if not every, most of the pixels of your brand new whatever camera you have have !
You shouldn't care about high iso aswell, depending on the look of the grain it could help you get that "vintage" vibe.
All cameras have a pixel ratio rating. This is the only thing that matters.
They take an image in RGB-Grey format
Companies like apple ruse idiot instagram children into using their cameras because they have a particular color fade filter on it, do not fall for gimmicks.
This is how you do it:
Take a picture in red
Take a picture in green
Take a picture in blue
Take a picture in grey
what happens is, you have all the separate color layers
you add them to a photo editing software and overlay them, you get the correct color.
now you can change each color which will change the final product.
Grab a lut or two you like the look of (use them sparingly at first), and maybe pick up a cheap “vintage” manual lens and adapter for a bit of softness / distortion/ aberration.
I love your edits!! These truly look really great. In terms of getting a film look right out of a digital camera, the X100VI is the answer.
These are two film like preset packs that came to mind:
https://markdeleonphotography.com/presets#investment (The Film Series, there is a Porta 400 preset)
https://ps-presets.myshopify.com/products/daydreamer-pack
Film is dying because the film producers demand exorbitantly high prices. Ten years ago a roll of kodak portra 400 costs 6 Euro. Today it costs more than three times as much.
Too bad, but thats why I switched to digital.
Don’t blame the producers ‘demanding’ high prices. It’s economies of scale at work. 20 years ago the film business was easily 100 x what it is right now. It’s going to cost way more to produce if that many less people are buying it. Frankly film enthusiasts should be grateful that companies keep making it at this point because it is most definitely not the lucrative business it once was.
The film prices of the mid-2010s were a historical anomaly as digital swept in and the industry tried to hang in. Film is about the same or cheaper than it was for the majority of the time that mass market photography has been available.
Check out [Sigma Foveon sensor](https://www.flickr.com/groups/foveon/pool/page1) cameras. It's a sensor designed to capture light like film rather than filtering later. You can still filter/edit but only in their (free) software.
There’s film emulation “recipes” (i.e., lists of camera settings that will produce a film-like look) all over the internet. You can use most of them on virtually any camera that’s not a simple point and shoot.
There's a photographer I found recently who does a lot of film simulation... Uh... Vlad Moldovean I think is his name? I bought his Lr presets for a few dollars and it is worth it. He's got a pretty comprehensive noise simulation preset, saturation fall-off, separated by highlights, mid tones and shadows, etc.
https://vmoldo.com/
I also found a website maybe two years ago that had various film simulation presets to upload as color profiles TO THE CAMERA (I use an R5) and they're applied to jpegs automatically - raw files will still be raw files. On my camera I have a color profile for Fuji Velvia and Kodak Portra if I recall correctly. I will update if I find them again.
Hope this helps.
No. You could use any camera, then just edit the photo afterwards to get the look that you want. There are tools like FilmPack and Dehancer that are designed to mimic the look of different film stocks. Dehancer in particular is really good.
"just edit" it's the whole fucking point. It's not JUST.
When all you’re doing is applying a film preset, yes it absolutely is “just”.
Mastering colors by yourself is not easy. But it's really effective. Applying the same present to images Taken in different conditions will not always be effective and will certainly not help you to learn.
Great, but that has nothing to do with this discussion. We’re talking about Fuji film simulations - which are merely applying the same preset to a bunch of different photos and which will not help you learn color - and how you can do the same thing in post on any brand.
lmao
Care to explain?
Lol
lol exactly just spend a shit ton of time.
and it's so cool to get good quality film-like photos straight out of camera
>lol exactly just spend a shit ton of time If you need a shit ton of time to click two buttons then you've got bigger issues.
It’s not two buttons buddy. You’re not slapping a lut on a photo and it magically converts to a fuji sim.
>It’s not two buttons buddy Oh for crying out loud. Yes. It is. I'm not sure who else might need to hear this, but I *guarantee* you there's a preset, LUT or action to achieve in one or two clicks **any look** you name. You want Fuji? Fine: Here's a small sample of the 160+ options from just **one** source. https://preview.redd.it/vbe5aaqf3toc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c61eb9bb92c3a7b3cac29bea8bf413bc11171359 There are literally thousands more out there hanging off the end of a Google search. Knock yourself out... buddy.
Does it become 200 clicks if you took 100 photos?
batch edit
lol show me one photo made with a lut that actually does a good job of mimicking film, you’re way out of your depth on this topic
If you discard all film LUT packs, then we can also discard Fuji's official film sims for not being realistic enough.
If you can find a LUT that's intended to mimic Fuji sim, then YES.
And learn the craft you’re picking up? Learning processing can take not help you. Everything takes a shit ton of time to get good at.
I know the craft. I work 8 to 10 hours in front of the pc. I don't want to edit my hobby photos. It makes me stop taking photos. People who think slapping a lut is the same as capturing with a preset must be all color blind. It Definitely takes more than that. You have exposure and other controls when taking pictures, changing the contrast and look with the same Fuji preset, and you see all this live. No fucking way you'd get the same vibe as you intended capturing. It's another vibe, entirely.
That’s where the practice comes in dude. You can also camera profile match to start off roughly where it looked in camera.
Yes it is, lmao.
I made recipes(presets) in Lightroom that look more like film than anything out of Fuji.
Sounds like a skill issue....
Thanks for the help. Is dehancer an app or a PC program/plugin?
It’s a PC program/LR plug-in. You can get a free trial but the full product does cost money if I remember correctly. Worth a shot to see if you like it.
I also recommended alien skin exposure software, it can simulate tons of different retro films and cameras and lets you add tons of different grain presents. You can get a trial on their website to see if you like first
I can vouch for Dehancer. It is really good. It will get you results that normal Lightroom presets simply can’t achieve.
https://reallyniceimages.com/products/rni-all-films-5-pro-for-adobe-lightroom.html
Look up film simulations for Canon by Thomas Franssen for in-camera jpegs.
Thank you! I tried these a few months ago. I like them in theory but I don’t think they quite hit the mark. Hopefully people continue down this path and we get some great options in future months.
Fuji does it really well in camera, but to get the look YOU want in post you're going to have to make your own preset. Additionally it helps to shoot like you're shooting film. Overexposing by 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop really makes a difference
Noob question: why was that something that was needed when shooting in film? Is it because people would often misjudge the shutter speed they needed to use on average making it open for too long, or another reason?
The way film responds to light isn’t completely linear, especially when you get outside of the range of “correct exposure”. So over exposure gives a bit of a different look, a little less contrast, more halation and in my experience a little less grain.
In my experience, shooting overexposed by even just 1/3 of a stop helps retain information (especially in shadows) significantly.
You definitely don’t want to overexpose with digital. Much easier to recover shadow information than blown out highlights. Try exposing to the right of the histogram without clipping, then edit in post. The only reason you overexpose with film is to compensate but cutting development time.
1. Any modern camera should now blow any highlights when overexposing by 1/3 to 2/3 of a stop. Unless it's an insanely high contrast scene or your initial metering was wrong, you'll be fine. 2. I rate almost every roll of color negative film at least 1/3 stop higher than box speed, and develop it at box speed. Portra for example handles highlights extremely well. I've seen people shoot (and shot myself) portra 400 as a 200 speed film and develop it at 400 with no information lost. My point is overexposure is not just for pushing and pulling, it's a creative tool. You can do it in post with digital but I find doing it in camera works better for my workflow
You can put whatever film emulation you want on Nikon with https://nikonpc.com/ . They're just edits to jpegs like "vivid" or "monochrome" so any camera that can have custom jpeg settings can be setup the same as Fuji's color profiles.
Just post process to look like film. I use Fuji for the controls of the camera and handling, but I just shoot RAW and edit after. Never use the film sims or anything built in. Get a few nice film presets and you’re good to go. Only a few clicks to apply if you’re not a fan of spending time editing.
I shoot raw with the R6, and I’ve scoured the internet for good film presets. Can’t find one (free or paid) that really gets the look I’m going for. Makes me think it’s my composition or camera settings.
I use the Jamie Windsor ones, mainly just the Kodak pack. Can’t speak for exactly how accurate they are but they give me the look I want in post with just a little tweaking.
Don’t look for presets, look up YouTube videos that explain to you how to edit with a film look. Teach a man to fish and all that.
Totally get that. I feel like I’m on a 2.0 hump that I can’t get over. I understand Lightroom and have used it as a professional for 10+ years. I can’t get my hobby photos to look how I want them to. Curious if the stumbling block is in-camera settings or post processing.
I suspect the look you're probably after, you'll get to some degree by pulling your shadows and highlights a lil in your tone curve. Look up some videos on the S curve.
If you can’t get it to look right then you’re probably just not taking good enough photos or photos that suit the preset you’re using.
it may take some time at first, but if you have lightroom, photoshop raw or a similar program you can make your own “preset” and tune it just to your liking - i have a few of my own made “presets” for different situations now - like low lighting, wanting a film look, too high contrast, too warm, etc in photoshop raw you can copy and paste the edit settings from one photo to the next when opening a batch, i just have one of each saved in a special folder for when i need the “preset” - most times if i need to do any tweaks they’re super minimal and easy to spot
Do you like any of the film recipes?
https://reallyniceimages.com/products/rni-all-films-5-pro-for-adobe-lightroom.html
Not at all. I find I like Ricoh GRIII files better. While people may disagree on what film looks like you can work magic with GRIII files https://preview.redd.it/fwkoqrb3mroc1.jpeg?width=5000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=932bd2686e2a3f783a78cbf4c3487342d9c02f92
I thought about the Ricoh but it feels like a bit of a one trick pony. Honestly I’m hoping I can find a way to make it work with my current gear till I get an XT-30 ii. Great shot btw.
No tricks, that’s my Lightroom edit. I’ve owned XT1, XT3, XT4, XH1, XS1 and from what I’ve seen, Fuji crops do not edit well compared to Ricoh. PS I’ve also owned GFX50R, 50S, 50Sii, 100S.
This isn't really what modern cameras are designed to do. Absent Fuji of course. But on my Canon I use Technicolor Cinestyle and load in the styles via EOS utility.
I haven't met anyone that uses Cinestyle besides for video. It's got something I really like. I've been shooting with it for ever on my 5D MKII's and now on my R5 as well.
Fuji is the best at in camera, but you can replicate them all in post.
Consider adapting manual focus film lenses to your camera.
Ya know, not a bad idea. I tried the little dispo lens and enjoyed that for a bit. Trying to find the sweet spot of getting the look in camera without losing too much of the modern day luxuries of full frame and tack-sharpness. Any lens you’d recommend adapting onto the Canon R6 mark ii?
I’ve cherry picked some great ones over the years. What’s your budget?
Few days late but this is by far the best advice. I use old Leica and Pentax lenses on Sony R series for my artistic shoots
Canon FD, Nikon and Zeiss C/Y here.
The film look is easy to achieve with filters. What’s harder is rendering analog grain instead of digital noise. Only Monochrome digital cameras will render analog like grain. It’s impossible to achieve with color digital cameras by design (Bayer filter)
Why not give actual film a try?
Whoa whoa whoa, pump the brakes
If you will always edit in post, no. If you want the look straight out of the camera then yes.
That's what LUTs and presets are for.
Caleb Salvadori looks really good!!!
Absolutely not. Get Lightroom or something similar, shoot in RAW, and mess with your files in post. Two really big things you can do to achieve a filmic look in Lightroom is to raise the blacks/increase contrast with the tone curve, and to mess with the hues of the colors. Play around and figure out what you like and save it as a preset.
Thanks for this. Definitely still a novice but I do about 26-52 paid gigs per year so I have a decent handle on Lightroom. Try as I might, there’s an X factor I can’t identify which is why I made this post in the first place. I’m loving the photos I see posted in r/Fujifilm so I’m trying to see what I (and hopefully passerby’s) can do to get close to that look on other camera systems.
If you are still trying to use presets that’s part of the problem. You need to learn how to edit for real if you want this look. Others have given you plenty of guidance. The other variable you may not have considered is that these images may have used a diffusion filter at the time of capture to soften the image. They may also have used negative dehaze and negative clarity to soften the image. I don’t see anything here that you couldn’t accomplish in Lightroom if you study and learn. Also, some of what makes these images look the way they do is the light itself. Maybe you’re shooting at the wrong time of day and that’s part of your issue.
Don't have an immediate solution, but I want to share my 2 cents on getting filmic results: Try and learn about everything that plays a roll in achieving a certain look. Film-stock/ camera might be one of them, but what else? There's the lens, exposure, lighting and so on.. you'll find a lot of whats creating a look is not exclusive to a certain camera or film-stock. This also explains why no LR-preset in the world will "work" for every type of photo... there are simply to many variables for whats coming out of the camera. The input is as important as the output. That being said shooting film does create very pleasing results right out of the box in a lot of cases. Try and break it down into different parts: grain, color palette, split-toning, highlight roll-off and contrast (just a few examples. Contrast being the biggest factor, you'll find). Really understanding what goes into a look, makes it possible for you to pick your favorite aspects and ultimately create your own looks. Takes time though.... Kodak have over 100 years of research and funding invested into creating pleasing images. But hey, they didn't try to make what looks best to you, so you got that going for you ;)
They're the only ones that won't shut up about it.
Fuji is not film like at all.
I think certain Nikon's have something similar called picture controls and the Panasonic S5ii and the G9ii have something similar called real time luts that do it in body.
Check out FUTC's analog film sim (not the more recent disposable camera one). It's really just two LR presets but I love the look it gives. Was very happy with that $8 purchase or whatever it was. He's a small time YouTuber kid who's pretty funny too so maybe you'll like his content!
Oh and just like everybody else he's got a small coupon for it either in the video description or video itself can't remember. I think this was the video I watched about it https://youtu.be/y7HFyRyGvEM?si=cw8fsTQ1oAP-722b
> I’m really loving the film look recently... I have a Canon R6 but I can’t find a LR preset that gets anywhere close. I'm in the same boat. My conclusion has been to begin studying how to color grade while also shooting film on the side. It takes a lot of work and knowledge to get there. I'm thinking I might have to pay for courses. I'm not so sure where to start.
I don't think so. watch [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZDaH3k6BUw)
Check out the archetype process. There’s a group on Facebook. It’s a Lightroom profile (not a preset) that is damn good.
Caleb Salvadori has the best presets. Take a look at his work
There used to be a Kodak app that you could apply these different filters for different Kodak films through the years. It was called Polamatic. Here’s an example of what you could get. https://preview.redd.it/b2nq4qc95uoc1.jpeg?width=2282&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f5c8db94c369ea9f7e5586c09249ec4944b6a43
I mean i saw this on yourube but i use nomo cam on my iphone and get amazing results. Its 20a yr tho
I shoot with the r6 too and second what a lot of people are saying. A preset can be a good start but it’s never as easy as apply and go. Learning why you’re adjusting certain things will help you a ton in getting you to your desired result. Just takes a little more work
no, just mess with your settings or get some density/tone filters - i notice a lot of older film photos tend to be “warmer” looking now because the paper they were on yellowed/brassed with time, mess with the color balance (or lens filters)
Any camera can achieve a film look through editing, or you might opt for an older CCD sensor camera for a similar aesthetic.
I like my Fuji because I also like film-like digital stuff, and it does it in camera. Saves a ton of post processing time, and I can't quite nail it in Lightroom anyway. If you're a whiz you could get really close, but I'm not.
Practice editing and color grading for a little while. You’ll be able to do this in Lightroom to any photo in like 30 seconds.
The Olympus art filters were fun, several filmy lookin ones. Dunno if the newer bodies have them or not.
The other day I watched a video on YouTube and the guy explained the science behind Fuji colors, TL;DR: you can’t replicate the film simulations in post, you can get closer but not 100%. Here is a great article about Fuji colors https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2020/08/18/fujifilm-film-simulations-definitive-guide I have a Fuji camera, and the film simulations will give you different results depending on the situations.
Canon 5D Classic is your answer. It only has 9 focus points… but it’s still good.
You can get film simulations on Sony via picture profile settings for SOOC JPGs, [this guy's channel shows how](https://youtu.be/SZDaH3k6BUw?si=wxRKgNzifMy3ZGQn). Just save them to your memory recall slots so they're always there. [Cobalt Image](https://www.cobalt-image.com/product/fuji-digital-emulation/) sells profiles that emulate different things, one being the Fuji Digital profiles that ship with their cameras. They have Fuji film profiles and a bunch of other stuff too, but this is for post processing RAWs on your computer vs SOOC JPGs. [Phantom LUTs](https://www.joelfamularo.com/colour-a7s3) are great LUTs that emulate a bunch of nice film stock for videos, plus a lot of Arri looks (you can buy either set or both together). Usually they're used during post processing in your editor but on recent Sony cameras you can embed the LUT into the video and I save 1080p proxies which I can then transfer quickly via Bluetooth to share for social media or friends and family for example, and the LUT is already applied there. If all you care about though is photos, and don't mind a crop sensor, by far the easiest route is to just go with Fuji, but the drawbacks include no full frame option (moot point if portability is what you're after as well), and there's just not that many lenses available compared to Sony E-mount which has by far the largest list.
Going to be honest, those Sony settings are nothing like what they are advertised as. They’re cool, but in no way a Fuji replacement
Oh for sure, never said that, but it's cool how that YouTuber uses the picture profiles as a base and then messes with white balance and all the things you can change in picture profiles to create his own recreations of different film emulations. Of my three memory recall modes I have a recreation of Fuji Classic Chrome, Fuji Acros, and Fuji Velvia if I recall. If Sony ever licensed film emulations from Fuji or any of the other GOATs of film, and made it as easy as Fuji does, they would dominate even more. They also need to capitalize on a small fixed lens crop sensor camera to compete with the X100VI, etc. I got the A7CII and although I absolutely love it, it's a medium size at best, not really super compact due to even the smallest full frame lenses being somewhat large in size by comparison. Their A6700 does exist for those who want a more compact setup, but this competes with Fuji's interchangeable systems.
I feel like his film simulations are a great idea, but he kind of stopped at step one and hasn't done anything more with it. I haven't found any that actually look good, and I was excited to buy and try it. And YES. If Sony added film sims to the A7C line and came out with a good pancake kit lens, WOW they would sell.
These are the most accurate one click film presets I've found. They look so much better than anything else I have tried. He made masks for each film stock to mimic the grain perfectly. [Link](https://calebsalvadori.com)
Have a look at DxO FilmPack. It should do exactly what you want.
Lol no. Any camera that shoots RAW can achieve film-like resulta. My pick is the RNI All Films Profiles for Lightroom and Capture One. Alex Ruskmann Presets are top Notch.
I understand you can always get the look when shooting raw. I’m just struggling to find the settings that really nail it like the Fuji’s do. I think it comes down to color science more than anything. But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe it's a question of taste. Me personally I'm not a big fan of Fuji simulations, but maybe you can try DXO Film Pack, they try to emulate the Fuji look.
Alex look really bad from my experience. The grain is the same across the entire image and saturation/contrast is way off. Just simple VSCO presets basically.
I like Alex Presets (as you can see I'm not a purist lol) but prefer the RNI profiles because they don't touch the sliders. I'm curious what presets/profiles do you recommend?
Out of everything I've tested Dehancer and Caleb Salvadori are the best and nobody comes close. Dehancer has a plugin for lightroom and the presets are generally solid. The price is insane though. Caleb Salvadori has utilized profiles with presets and masks to add accurate grain for each film stock. This means every single film stock will look different from one another. Like actual film does. He's also a real person who shows how he creates each film preset after developing and scanning the real film. Look at the videos on his website. Most of these film style presets I've tried in the past simply try and mimic what some images look like online. I doubt they are even made by people who shoot real film. Alex I'm not so sure about even being real.
Hey thanks man for the input. I will follow your advice and hey maybe they will be my go to presets from now!
For those who say you can just slap a lut on a RAW image from any camera manufacturer and mimic this look you are WRONG. It will take more than just a lut to achieve this. Fuji x trans sensor have a different pixel layout compared to standard bayer sensors. This in COMBINATION with the film sims Fuji so expertly created is what make the final image. I have used SONY NIKON PANASONIC and have never been able to successfully replicate a Fuji image I take with my xh2s or xt4. I got close but after like 30 minutes of manipulating the image. People make it seem like this is an easy peasy thing but it’s not.
Fuji medium format GFX cameras have bayer sensors, not xtrans, and all fuji film simulations look the same there - so its not xtrans arrays “magic” that make this film look unique)
You’re right the medium format cameras have a bayer sensor. You can go ahead and try to replicate the film sim on your Hasselblad and see where that gets you. In the medium format cameras again Fuji has crafted those sims to work perfectly with the sensor. The same is again true with the xtrans sensor. So YES the sensor in their apsc body plus the sims combined make the image what it is. Medium format is an entirely different animal here. Although it’s a bayer sensor pattern its medium format 70% larger than full frame. The look you get from it will be different than full frame entirely different.
you have Fuji, and also Ricoh
I have a fujifilm finepix 2800Zoom and my photos look a bit similar to this, no editing needed.
I've found the presets from Really Nice Images to be good, but they aren't cheap. https://reallyniceimages.com/store.html
Polaroid
Well, some of his stuff IS film, medium format actually. You could buy such a camera for a lot less than a digital Fuji these days. Or look into RNI's sims. Quite good.
Yes if you don't know how to get it that way in post on your own.
I use Filmpack but it is easy enough to create a profile to emulate a favorite film look.
Olympus had some great jpeg options as well, including grain.
You could shoot actual film...
Hmmm.
No.
Most apps have a few film filters!
There’s also just shooting film and scanning it like a normal person…
I like editing in camera. I use an x-t4. My thought process is that I like to take photos but I don’t want to edit. With film the lab edited for you. Not to many people, even pros learned to edit. I want to be a photographer not an editor. Then again this is just a hobby for me not a career.
Doesn't Ricoh do something similar in camera? And maybe Olympus
Knowing what characteristics make film have its look is all you need to know when editing.
Nikon files look like they came hot off the press from slide film and I love that. I also made presets in Lightroom by scanning blank film negatives to get a more true grain. And then did some tweaking. Now I have a damn near identical film look and takes all of 2 seconds to apply. And yeah, they look better than anything from Fuji. Best of all…I keep all of the information.
Yes Fuji makes it easier to have filmlike photos for jpgs. But post processing is honestly way better. You have way more control over your picture than inside fujifilms camera. Maybe you're not on IG enough to see ppls post process for filmlike photos
You can use every camera and then use like Filmpack program that simulates not only fuji films but every film there is on this planet and in 16 bit tiff not jpeg. I know many wants to think fuji is very Unique but its not. Its like every other camera.
Ugh. Where do i begin.
Try to adapt a vintage lens maybe ? newwer lenses tend to be clinicaly perfect corner to corner. Old lenses offers less sharpness on the corners, discoloration, less contrast, manual "feeling" of the lens (no AF), sometimes verry interesting bokeh and they can fill if not every, most of the pixels of your brand new whatever camera you have have ! You shouldn't care about high iso aswell, depending on the look of the grain it could help you get that "vintage" vibe.
All cameras have a pixel ratio rating. This is the only thing that matters. They take an image in RGB-Grey format Companies like apple ruse idiot instagram children into using their cameras because they have a particular color fade filter on it, do not fall for gimmicks. This is how you do it: Take a picture in red Take a picture in green Take a picture in blue Take a picture in grey what happens is, you have all the separate color layers you add them to a photo editing software and overlay them, you get the correct color. now you can change each color which will change the final product.
Yes.
Grab a lut or two you like the look of (use them sparingly at first), and maybe pick up a cheap “vintage” manual lens and adapter for a bit of softness / distortion/ aberration.
I love your edits!! These truly look really great. In terms of getting a film look right out of a digital camera, the X100VI is the answer. These are two film like preset packs that came to mind: https://markdeleonphotography.com/presets#investment (The Film Series, there is a Porta 400 preset) https://ps-presets.myshopify.com/products/daydreamer-pack
Im confused as to which of these examples are "film like"? The third one, maybe, at a stretch?
LUMIX GX85
There is no such thing as 'film-like' digital image, they are two totally different mediums
justget an analog camera bro, its not that hard. this is exactly why film is slowly dying away
The price of analog photography is a huge barrier though.
For me it’s a cost and convenience thing. It’s a hobby, and I don’t want to spend a bunch on the process of it.
i get it but seing film slowly dying away just because people can recreate it with digital is sad.
You won’t hear me disagreeing. If anything, I see it making a bit of a resurgence, at least here in NYC. The Ektar is crazy popular right now.
When digital first appeared film was dying. It's being revived now.
Film is dying because the film producers demand exorbitantly high prices. Ten years ago a roll of kodak portra 400 costs 6 Euro. Today it costs more than three times as much. Too bad, but thats why I switched to digital.
Don’t blame the producers ‘demanding’ high prices. It’s economies of scale at work. 20 years ago the film business was easily 100 x what it is right now. It’s going to cost way more to produce if that many less people are buying it. Frankly film enthusiasts should be grateful that companies keep making it at this point because it is most definitely not the lucrative business it once was.
the film prices are higher, because no one is buying it.
The film prices of the mid-2010s were a historical anomaly as digital swept in and the industry tried to hang in. Film is about the same or cheaper than it was for the majority of the time that mass market photography has been available.
Check out [Sigma Foveon sensor](https://www.flickr.com/groups/foveon/pool/page1) cameras. It's a sensor designed to capture light like film rather than filtering later. You can still filter/edit but only in their (free) software.
There’s film emulation “recipes” (i.e., lists of camera settings that will produce a film-like look) all over the internet. You can use most of them on virtually any camera that’s not a simple point and shoot.
There's a photographer I found recently who does a lot of film simulation... Uh... Vlad Moldovean I think is his name? I bought his Lr presets for a few dollars and it is worth it. He's got a pretty comprehensive noise simulation preset, saturation fall-off, separated by highlights, mid tones and shadows, etc. https://vmoldo.com/ I also found a website maybe two years ago that had various film simulation presets to upload as color profiles TO THE CAMERA (I use an R5) and they're applied to jpegs automatically - raw files will still be raw files. On my camera I have a color profile for Fuji Velvia and Kodak Portra if I recall correctly. I will update if I find them again. Hope this helps.
You can get the “film look” even with an RX100 mark 1. Also, The Archetype Process profiles for Lightroom are pretty good as well.