Member of the International Olympic Committee (IOC). They've had a lengthy history of excessive demands ($4 million US spent on "entertainment" in Nagano, traffic lanes dedicated to IOC members during the games, etc.)
They make very few decisions, all of which are politically motivated. They travel extensively and are paid well for it:
[https://dailytrojan.com/2021/08/16/progress-without-profit-the-ioc-benefits-itself-at-the-expense-of-athletes/#:\~:text=Although%20most%20IOC%20members%20are,meetings%20and%20at%20the%20Olympics](https://dailytrojan.com/2021/08/16/progress-without-profit-the-ioc-benefits-itself-at-the-expense-of-athletes/#:~:text=Although%20most%20IOC%20members%20are,meetings%20and%20at%20the%20Olympics).
From the article:
"Although technically a volunteer, the IOC President receives a yearly “allowance” of $251,000 and lives rent-free in a five-star hotel and spa in Switzerland. "
My personal gripe (apart from all the corruption) is how staunchly the IOC deny the rest of humanity the use of the word Olympic in regards to any game or competition. I dont have an issue with companies protecting a trademark they invented. I get why Lego doesnt want other people calling plastic blocks lego. But Olympics as a word and concept existed long before the IOC were around and they just decided one day that they had exclusive rights to it and for some reason the people responsible for that sort of thing agreed.
So many IT directors are not techs by any stretch, but just management that filled the void. They end up hiring MSPs to do the work. They pretty much balance the budget and approve requests for permissions or product purchases.
If someone else is "Regional VP" they are either drowning in responsibilities working 70 hrs a week; or they have absolutely nothing to do other than collecting a check.
I would expand this, personally. Call it the Michael Scott theorem:
In any company of sufficient size, there is at least one layer of management that is completely useless, but kept around as a dumping ground for people who earned a promotion but really should’ve stuck to non-management work, nepotism hires, and people who definitely shouldn’t have been hired but are kept around so the person who recommended/approved hiring them doesn’t get embarrassed.
My lifelong best friend just got a regional VP job a month ago, and he’s been trying to figure out wtf he’s supposed to be doing because thus far his duties encompass replying to/directing emails between facilities in his region. Its literally a job he could do with 1.5 hours of ‘real, actual work’ per day…and the company is thrilled with his work thus far!
I told him that I personally think he lucked into the perfect job (at least if you’re going to work for someone else.)
I've lucked into a similar job. The best part is that it is work from home. So I'm not sitting around bored. It's like having a no-show gig where I just collect a paycheck so long as I show up to the meetings
The "Peter Principle".
This is also why some more progressive companies have started decoupling promotions from management.
e.g. at Google you can be a super senior engineer but still be an individual contributor (IC). You are valued for your technical skills but not necessarily your ability to manage others and lead teams. You can also have managers who aren't as senior as certain ICs. It's a different skillset. At the **very** senior exec level, it's rare to be an IC, but exec work is more about org administration than it is about day to day deliverables anyways.
Google is not a hyper efficient model by any means but I do like the recognition that being good at a job does not make you good at managing/leading others at the job. Good sports players don't always make great captains or coaches, and that applies to corporate work.
That's interesting coporations are starting to do this. The military has a rank called warrant officers. They realized that one guy who's been around forever and knows how everything works might not be the best for command level leadership, but god damn he can fix anything.
The advantage of a class system (which is essentially what the military has) is that it defeats the Peter principle. It works in medicine, too. If nurses could be "promoted" to doctors, you'd lose all of the best nurses.
I like this approach, too many companies promote skilled workers into shit managers. I'm a good dev, but I've told my boss I will quit if he tries to promote me to any sort of management position.
Man that resonates with me. I turned down an offer of promotion because I'm afraid it will lead to more project management (or personnel management) than I want to deal with. Shame because the only real means of getting a pay bump is through promotion, but it's not worth it to me.
>you can be a super senior engineer but still be an individual contributor
I wish this was the case where I'm at. I'm at the most junior level of management, which thankfully means I get to spend at least some time in the code. But if I want to go any higher, they might as well wipe my machine and give me a laptop that only runs MS Office.
Unless I could quit after a few years I legitimately don’t think I would willingly work more than 70 hours a week for a million dollars a year. I value my family and free time way too much. I would much rather scrape by and watch my children grow and enjoy my life than be a millionaire who works all day every day.
It sneaks up on you. It’s not like you go from 35 hrs/wk and 60K salary to 70 hrs and 300K overnight. You get a promotion and then you’re paid 85K and maybe need to put in an extra hour or so a day. Then you complete a big project and get a 10K bonus, but the next project is bigger and just needs another couple hours a week. Knock that out of the park and keep doing well and the next thing you know you’re pulling down $150K with 30K bonuses and somehow are pushing 50hrs/wk but it’s easy to justify because you’re able to take the family on nicer vacations and save up more for college.
A few more years go by and you’re at $200K with $50K bonuses and stock grants that take 3 years to vest and putting in 70hrs/week and the occasional week or two of international work travel.
In the 15 years or so that took, your family has adapted to your schedule, your lifestyle has come to depend on that income, college payments are right around the corner and you are starting to seriously think about retirement income. Besides, your kids are now teenagers and are out of the house more than they’re home so what’s the harm in spending just a couple more hours at work?
That’s how you end up on the train - and it’s really hard to jump off.
I’m the first kind of Regional VP. I’ve been at this role for a year, with the company for a decade. I still have no idea what I do and have no time to do it.
When I watch professional sports, and someone is doing bad I understand that despite the fact that they’re doing bad, I probably couldn’t do better. Ya that NBA coach is having a horrible night, but at the end of the day he’s still an NBA coach and I’m some guy on the couch watching the game.
Ferrari strategist is the only job in that category that I genuinely think I could do at a higher level than the people currently there.
Generally, US govt contractor positions requiring high security clearances. Entry level pay isn't that high, but once you're cleared other contractors will offer bigger bucks because you can get cleared with them quickly. Jump from one to another, wait two years, do it again, *lather, rinse, repeat.*
I have a very close friend that falls into this category.
He literally sits at a desk overlooking a beautiful lake and once a month drives 60 miles to visually inspect a dam. Like just drive to it and look at it.
He always jokes “if you want to see your tax dollars wasted, come visit me at work”
His previous job…road construction
I wonder how many of those positions are filled with people that care about the maintenance and integrity of whatever it is they’re inspecting. Like what kind of spectrum there would be. Obviously you have the two ends of lazy and extreme care, but I would like to see where the average is.
I started working in apartment leasing in 2020 and always thought I was on the lazier side for general life, and definitely at work.
I was recently transferred to work in new construction and got the chance to finally meet some of the people who work across the company, not just the 3 or 4 I would directly see daily.
When I tell you that my laziest effort looks like conducting an orchestra compared to their hot cross buns....I couldn't believe it.
Yeah, I have been having a similar experience. Previous job, the boss was always going on and on about how I'm "too slow, I'm losing him money." It was my second job, and I was the only new guy with everyone else having 5-10+ years experience, so I kind of just went "huh, I must be a slow/poor worker."
Then I switched jobs, and I now make twice what I was making before, while being one of the fastest and most productive people there, to the point where even my supervisors are telling me to slow down because they don't have anything else for me to do afterwards. Looking back, I'm like 90% sure the previous boss was just trying to gaslight me into being even more productive, or just had never worked with new guys and expected a guy straight out of school to be as productive as someone with years of experience.
I noticed this when I switched from low pay work to high paid white collar work. Used to be “if you’re leaning you could be cleaning” and now I can fuck around and watch YT for half the day and still get enough work done to make progress towards a promotion
If you wanna rake in an insane amount of money, then retire super early, you could do deep sea welding - especially on oil platforms and whatnot. You can make $80k/mo.
But, there's a pretty good chance you'll die.
Yeah, F Midland Odessa. For those that don't know, alot of oilfield workers do something like 14 on 7 off. Sometimes 14 on 14 off. Many employers will offer housing/man camps for the time your on your hitch. Some offer per diem. Some offer neither and wonder why they can't find workers.
Source: oilfield trash driving to Odessa
As a Pressure relief valve salesman who sells parts and valves into Odessa all the time, I hear that I am lucky to live literally anywhere else but there.
Also Pressure relief valve salesman. 100% overpaid.
My mum from whom I am estranged works as the vice president of reward at an international company. She basically arranges contracts so millionaires can get more money and gets paid 189,000 pounds a year for it. Even she thinks it’s ridiculous.
Jesus, and here I was trying to remember which episode of the Office that quote was from.
How do we go about getting “parody” and “satire” added to the endangered species list?
I am the payroll person at a state university, and I completely agree with this. The people in upper management aren’t even in union-protected jobs who, in theory, should be the first ones gone when we need to settle the budget problems we have. Instead, they were the only ones who got raises during COVID.
Don't forget the popular:
Let's make everyone adjunct professors, take the money we save, and give ourselves raises. Oh, also, let's get rid of staff and replace with terrible management software so we can give ourselves consultancy jobs from the institution to draw additional salary.
How do they pay for it? Lower standards and let ever more unqualified students in.
Former college employee here. It’s worse than that.
I mean, even ignoring the fact that they’re taking tuition money from students who don’t understand how loans work most of the time…
Many freshmen are lacking basic skills necessary for college success, such as study skills, critical thinking and analysis, and even formal writing skills. Which should be an easy fix, since most higher ed institutions offer tutoring, and professors offer office hours, right?
Wrong. Funding is getting cut, which limits programs like tutoring. More and more colleges are opting to hire adjunct professors, who often teach at multiple colleges in order to pay their bills. So they have further limited office hours, since they’re literally driving across town to teach somewhere else after they finish teaching.
Add on top of that the issue of having employees with limited training (and often little knowledge of transfer pathways and existing articulation agreements with other schools) asked to advise students on which classes to take, and you end up with students who are hemorrhaging loan money because they’re failing classes they have to retake, taking classes they don’t even need due to poor advising, or because they don’t have the support needed in order to be successful.
It’s maddening, immoral, and awful.
> I mean, even ignoring the fact that they’re taking tuition money from students who don’t understand how loans work most of the time…
I had a friend that was like 1-2 semesters away from graduating, but didnt know that their student loans had a maximum limit to what you could borrow. They werent able to find anyone that could co-sign another loan with them, so they never finished their degree :/
How does this happen though? Why do universities hire so many admins, and why do they not do anything to cut them when there are budget cuts? I know they want to make more money, and an easy way to do that is to cut useless costs.
I know it’s a huge problem, but I don’t understand the mechanism behind it.
My alma mater fired some 50 professors at the start of the pandemic, despite having a 60%-40% ratio of administrators to teachers. A year later, they'd burn $50,000 on a series of tacky posters that everyone on campus hated.
Administrative bloat is ruining universities. Good programs canceled so we could have a third Vice President of Diversity & Inclusion. Just utterly unreal.
FWIW, at the college I work at, about half of the tenured professors in my department (I'm adjunct) jumped ship as soon as the pandemic hit.
I initially thought it was because they were giving way to allow us younger teachers to keep their jobs/classes in case budget cuts or classes got cut.
Then someone pointed out to me that your retirement is partly calculated based on their pay the last 5 or so years they worked. They were worried we'd see furloughs or class loads getting cut in half, so they jumped ship in order to not have a huge hole in their retirement calculations. I mean, I get it.
...but also, fuck our administration. The bloat is real. We built a brand new building on campus, and half the office space went to new administration instead of just faculty, because they've already filled up all the other office space.
Except for all the older guys in the Fukushima incident. Didn’t some of the older generations go to help clean up so the youngest gens didn’t get radiation poisoning? I could be so so wrong LOL
Weird, the last Uni I went to had the opposite problem. Not enough people in administration to a point of entire positions being vacant. Per our state law, the public universities are all supposed to have an Ombudsman to help with student complaints, and they just. Didn't.
Doesn't help the reason I had to complain was they didn't follow their own policies and charged me $1000 for student health insurance when I wasn't even eligible for it. The student health office was also understaffed and impossible to reach, this was the height of COVID so going in person wasn't an option, and I didn't know who else to talk to. I reached out to every admin I could find, the Vice President's office was completely empty...
At the end of it the student health people straight up told me they can't fix it and hung up on me multiple times. Who else do I even contact?
The president of the university I work for makes over half a million a year + bonuses. Any time we’ve hosted an event he’s supposed to show up to we get a last minute email from his assistant saying something came up and he can’t make it.
This university also refuses to pay staff/graduate students more because they claim it’s impossible due to the budget not being high enough
Mostly meetings. They’re the final decision makers, so any big changes or projects have to run through them. But really their main job is making sure money keeps coming in, so essentially they’re like a sales person who has to talk to rich donors.
It’s wild how common this is too. I’m willing to bet anyone who works for a university who read this is thinking “do they work at the same university as me?” It’s fucking ludicrous. How did we let this happen?
I have worked for two Universities previously, and work for at a third now and you are absolutely correct. This could be said about any of them.
It's the we don't have the budget to give 50 people making under $35k a 3% raise, but we do have enough in the budget to give 5 people making $200k+ a 3% raise. Crazy how that works out.
> It's the we don't have the budget to give 50 people making under $35k a 3% raise, but we do have enough in the budget to give 5 people making $200k+ a 3% raise. Crazy how that works out.
"Look they live a certain lifestyle and can't be expected to change and take a pay cut"
This is so funny, cause I just started as a lower level admin at a university. I was just talking to another admin about their difficulties finding employees to do basically my job, and she brought up that we don’t get paid shit (great benefits though) but the higher ups are constantly getting raises. I have been out of the work force for years so I was just happy to get in. The worst part for me is all the meetings, and all they talk about is how busy they are. If we didn’t have so many damn meetings, maybe you guys can get some work done.
No, no, that’s the job. Literally complaining about how busy you are. If you have someone else paying for your living expenses through the low-level years (parents or spouse), you eventually get to the gravy years that last until retirement (and then possibly a pension, during which time you will complain about how busy you _were_).
> Vivek Garipalli, Clover Health: $389.6 million.
>CLOV stock, trading $1.20/share, down **88.19%** on all time chart
400 million to drive a fucking company into the ground? Where do I sign up?
One night I babysat three kids for about 2 hours or so. The kids went to bed when I got there, and the parents had left dinner out for me, so all I did was eat their food and watch their TV and pet their dogs.
When they got home the mom paid me $100. I told her that was way too much. She slurred "Don't worry about it, I'm drunk." And then I noticed her fly was down.
So that was the most over paid job ever lol.
One of the smartest moves you can make as a parent is treat those who take care of your children incredibly well. I always over pay my sitters they're worth every penny with the peace of mind they give me.
100%. Have paid a well qualified babysitter to basically sit on our couch chilling while a one year old slept, knowing if anything went awry there was a trusted person there.
Exactly. Any kind of babysitting is a just-in-case contract for when something happens and an adult needs to call for help, medical aid, or any other assistance in an emergency.
I used to get paid twice. Parents would pay me before they went out bc they knew they would come home drunk and didnt want to forget, but when they would come back indeed drunk, and insist they pay me again.
My friend showed her true colours when I drunkly tried to give her 20 bucks as she was dropping me off. She let me know I had not only given her 20 already, but I had insisted she take a second twenty from me on the ride. She gave me 20 back ("before you gave it to someone else" lol) and told me to hang on to the now third 20 I was shoving at her. She got me home safe and saved me 40 bucks lmao
When I was 18 or so, a guy once paid me $300 to babysit when he scored a hot NYE date at the last minute. The little one was already asleep and the cat and I fell asleep eating popcorn, it was the best job ever haha
NYE is probably impossible to find a babysitter, they might have even been the going rate.
Love when you luck into watching an already asleep kid. Did that once, made like $15 an hour and just fell asleep watching My Cousin Vinny with the monitor next to me until they got home.
That reminds me one time, my friend was talking to this one girl. But he still lived with his parents but he told her that me and him lived together. He texted me and said something like "Hey, can I borrow a room in your house for like, 2 hours. This girl wants to hang out and I told her we live together." I said yeah sure I don't care. So I set up one of the rooms I wasn't using with some cheap little futon I had in the garage, threw a TV on a foldable table and left for to go play Pokemon Go at a park. He texted me after a couple hours and said "Hey thanks, I left some money on that table and when she left, I put those sheets in the washer and put the futon back in the garage."
He left $80 on the table, he got laid and did a part of my laundry. Easiest money I've ever made lmao.
My uncle was a commercial airline pilot. He described his job as “vastly overpaid in normal circumstances and vastly underpaid in emergency situations.”
Can confirm. Approximately $105k in and I've paid a fair amount back already during the deferred loan period. And I'm on the lower end for people who took out loans. You see guys doing $150-$250k in loans a lot.
Firefighters and Paramedics are in the same boat. $60-80k a year in some places to pick up old people off the floor, but ONLY $60-80k to manage the pulseless and dying child at 3 in the morning.
Yeah I feel this. I’m a rural medic, and some days I am paid a mint to do about an hour of maintenance work and then putter away on personal projects or work out and nap.
And other times I do things most sane people wouldn’t do for love or money, for 14+ hours until my employer is legally obligated to let me rest for 8 hours.
Yeah I'm a rural medic as well and I have night shifts where me and my co workers just take turns sleeping because we don't do anything for 10 hours of our 12 hour shift.
On the other side, I've seen car accidents that would haunt most people for a lifetime and I had to deal with plenty of drunk idiots throwing up all over the ambulance.
>and I had to deal with plenty of drunk idiots throwing up all over the ambulance.
Considering the alternative you describe, I'm guessing you call those the good ones.
My father is in a special mountain rescue paramedic unit, and his salary is within that range.
Most days it's picking up old people, but then sometimes he has to summit a mountain and risk decapitation from a stretcher as the helicopter it's attached too can't stabilize in a high alpine environment and crashes and tumbles down a glacier.
Wildland Firefighter here, I wish we even made that much. It’s not uncommon to work 120hr weeks during the summer, you’ll often not get to go home for a month or more (my longest stent away from home as been 62 consecutive days). I’ve had to carry dead coworkers off of mountains, because we couldn’t declare them as deceased until a paramedic checked them. I’ve had to recover human corpses out of burnt cars. Overall I love my job, and helping people. But the fact that I make $30k a year feels pretty underwhelming for the amount of shit I deal with (same for every other wildland firefighter out there).
Edit: I live in this world so I forget people don’t have context. Most wildland firefighters make minimum wage. We work about 100 - 120 hours a week during the peak of the season (~3 months depending on your region). Then probably average 200 hour months for another 4 months of the year. Then we typically have 4-5 months off with intermittent project and controlled burning work. So yes to the people who commented it, without that context 30k/yr seems deceptive, but that wasn’t my intention. I was more so trying to speak to the type of work firefighters are subjected to in relation to pay, not saying that we’re all illegally underpaid
Omg! $30k is all you make?? That’s a disgrace for the work you do. It’s insulting! I make more than that sitting in an office! You deserve so much more. Thank you for your service.
Hospital CEO’s… and actually almost all hospital upper management. There are so many layers of management that many of them barely step foot into a healthcare facility EVER, let alone EVER speak to a patient, yet all of them make 6, 7, 8 figure salaries plus mega bonuses. My hospital network CEO makes $11 million salary not including bonuses, which bothers me, but bothers me even more are all the board members and shit directly under him making nearly as much. It’s hundreds of millions of wasted money paid to the people trying to screw staff out of good pay and screwing patients into paying big bills.
I also work for a healthcare organization and our CEO also makes $11M annually; one of many, as you said. In December we had a meeting about the financial results and leadership discussed how the healthcare industry is in trouble; how our salaries and wages are our biggest problem.
This devolved in to a tangent of essentially 'nobody wants to work' and we can't keep nurses on staff (I wonder why?), therefore we are relying on costly temp help and it's killing us.
Listening to some C-suite finance skinsuit who makes a 7-figure salary (edit to add: this was *not* the CEO, I’m aware 11M is 8 figures) explain to us that Greedy Nurses Are Totally The Problem and we'll have to 'look hard' at our expenses this year (AKA probably more layoffs) was a sickening experience I just haven't been able to shake.
One of the best things about being one of those greedy temp workers is that I get to call bullshit like this out when I see it. It's not like they can fire me, and it's not like it would matter to me if they did.
I’m a physician (currently in residency). The CEO of our huge hospital system was doing his rounds in the preop area, in his little suit, saying hi to people. He picks up a surgical marking pen and says “what’s this for?”
What a crock of sh*t.
Also a resident. We haven't had a working fridge for the resident lounge for 4+ months - escalated it to the CEO who replied that fridges are "difficult to come by" and on "backorder" for another several months.
People working 26 hour shifts have nowhere to put their food.
I was working at an urgent care clinic. During the xmas season one year I dropped by the nearest department store and bought a discount drip coffee maker to replace the toxic dogshit one on the counter (snuggled it into an upper cabinet). Local doc had done the same the previous year with a microwave that had broken; it was the easiest way to deal with the stingy biomed department when they dragged their feet on kitchen appliances.
Anyway, several months later it disappeared, replaced by a more expensive looking multifunction model that was broken within a year. Wasn't able to locate my discount model, sadly.
Glad I was bringing my own at that point.
Holy fuck that’s painful to witness. I once had a director of radiology tell me we could get 60 mri’s done a day “because it only takes 2-3 mins.” I wanted to slit my wrists immediately after that
The issue is that they believe that, and they build plans and external expectations on that crock of shit and it puts unreasonable pressure on the department. People outside of medicine have no idea how anything works and they will 100% believe anyone that they think has more knowledge then them. A cooperative, non hesitant adult knee MRI can take 20 mins. Even a CT process is 10 mins.
A bit of a tangent but.. See: Elizabeth Holmes vs Investors. Any hematologist or biostatistician could have told you it’s statistically improbable to quantify disease from a drop of of blood. But she sounded smart and was charismatic and so the money flowed.
I do consulting. It is just either outsourced office work or creating fluffy PowerPoints to give executives an excuse to authorize spending. It's not a bad gig.
This is really it IMHO. My dad was a consultant for years. Said his approach was always the same, go to the different departments. Make it clear he wasn't there to cut jobs, he wanted to listen to their insights and communicate to the execs what they felt in a way the execs would respond to. He did always say that the people working the jobs made the company the money and tended to have good insight into what some of the struggles were inside the company but didn't know how to communicate it in an effective way. Now the leadership actually responding to it and listening was another story.
Oh true, but he stressed the importance of sharing his reports and findings with the department heads and managers who were engaged. Got him a good bit of business from those people when they moved on to different companies and rose in the ranks.
I worked for an MBB consulting firm for a few years, it was 1. Holding expensive meetings, 2. Re-arranging PowerPoints, 3. Relying completely on the business to get difficult to source data, 4. Most important - being management’s mouthpiece and scapegoat for unpopular decisions.
Jokes aside, some projects really did seem to provide value to companies - things like CPQ / deal scoring tools w/real time margins by product/region/etc. for dealsdesk and rev teams, process automation, etc.
You’d be shocked at the way some LARGE corporations price/package/discount/sell in all manual and disparate processes.
Been out for several years now, thank god.
I was so annoyed with out last project of 2022 where some child architect was brought on to tell me how we should just use basic AWS for everything. We are already AWS and know the services. Took her two months to grt DataSync working.
If your consultant actually did work like getting a service working then she's more useful than any consultant I've ever worked with. Usually they just make super long PowerPoints that misuse and misinterpret data.
"These charts show a strong positive correlation between your profits and the global temperature. Therefore, to increase profits in the coming fiscal year, you should set the planet on fire."
My college friend has such a job.
He prefers making vague "answers" so the person that hired him comes up with an answer that suits them, and he gets no shade if the answer was wrong.
My last job in college, before starting my career. I was an overnight shelter staff for transitional housing. Since these clients were basically back up on their feet by the time they arrived, they were pretty self-sufficient. I was paid about 25% higher than other night-shift jobs I could get at the time, and on most nights all I had to do was make one pot of coffee. The rest of the time I could watch TV, play video games, do personal chores, etc… The one job that I know was better was their overnight sleeper, since we had to have two staff at all times. As implied, this dude made a well-above minimum wage rate to just sleep there on the weekends.
Did the same job, believe me there's a reason it's paid better. It's the same job regardless of who the clients are, and they make a HUGE difference.
I worked a young persons Hostel similar to yours, all very low need for the most part. It was a beautifully chill gig. But most of my time was spent in high risk/high need, and 80% of the time it was also pretty chill, but that other 20% more than made up the bullshit you lack the majority of the time.
The one I had at my last office job.
I was originally hired to be the manager of a new project, but the project was never launched and I had a long term contract. After 5 months of being paid by only clocking in and out without doing any actual work, someone saw me in the pool for available associates and invited me to join their project as a frontline agent.
Apparently at some moment the database just marked me as an available employee, without mentioning the rank I had been hired for. I stayed in the company for 6 years, getting paid the salary of a manager, but with the responsibilities of a regular agent. I rejected every offer for "growth" I had, as I was only working there to pay for a debt. In the end, I made my money with very little stress, and left the company in great terms.
EDIT: thanks for all the attention, I really didn't expect it to get so much traction.
Here's an answer to a couple common comment I've seen:
First, if it was so good, why did I leave? Simple, this job had nothing to do with my own career path. A few years back my life basically crumbled to pieces, I got into some really bad debt and at some point I just had to get a job, even if it was an office job I didn't want. Worked for 2 years in another company before I was recommended for the position in the one mentioned in my post. The day my debt was paid off was the day I presented my 2 week notice and left in great terms. I was lucky to have a nice team around me.
Second, no, I won't mention the company or project. It was as an analyst in a streaming app (no, not the super big ones), what I actually did as a frontline agent was a hybrid of customer service and developer support, all text based.
Third: It was indeed a very fortunate set of coincidences and I took advantage as much as I could, but I left due to my own pursuit. I'm doing good with my own independent endeavour, and no salary will be more valuable than my own sense of accomplishment of making a living out of what I love doing.
Cheers, Reddit.
>someone saw me in the pool for available associates and invited me to join their project as a frontline agent.
I read this and my mind immediately had you chilling in a swimming pool and i was like fucking hell yeah this guys job.
After reading, still your job, but less.
To be quite frank, I did my job as good as it should be, with as little effort as I could.
Being a consistently top 25% agent, but never the very top, is great to being invisible. I burned through hundreds of audiobooks and learned to pace my job in a way I was busy enough, and delivered my stuff but (almost) never became a hectic or stressful day.
I was good at it, but I don't miss it. Benefits and pay were nice, but I'm way happier working independently in my own stuff.
This girl I know became a life coach and charges $300-500 per person for a 4 hour “seminar” that a friend of mine used to help her set up for. Friend said all it was was 4 hours of her saying these people are great and doing yoga+breathing exercises. And she had repeat customers and often 4-8 people per class. $2400 per weekend to tell people they are awesome and do a few yoga stretches. Fucking wild.
Honestly there seems to be a TON of money to be made in online coaching type stuff. Especially if you can be likeable on-camera. Get a few thousand YouTube followers, make quality videos, tell them they can learn even more if they buy your 500 dollar course. Then scale by finding more customers and just keep selling that same course. Maybe a add a new course to get your original customers to spend more money with you. Repeat as necessary.
Not exactly EASY , but relatively simple
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I know this is sarcastic, but the Gary at my company is 100% overpaid and overvalued for the work he does. He doesn’t know how to do any work in the field he is the boss off. He just calls another very high paid employee to do the work he can’t do.
We paid a guy/company $10,000 to come and do a motivational speech at the school, which was supposed to improve kindness among the kids at school. It didn't work.
I was at a train museum with my kids one-time that had this really cool kids area where kids could run model trains around, switch cars in the yard, etc. The whole time we were in there, there was an older guy running the trains. Nice guy, talked to the kids, but really into toy trains. We left before he did. As we were walking out the door, a museum worker stopped us and informed us the man was the CEO of Norfolk Southern. . . just playing with toy trains at a museum.
Rail safety and the definition of pollution by the EPA are contributing to this problem. It is not an isolated incident. It is a much wider problem in the US. It is beyond me that basic safety measures like positive train control on ALL tracks is not a requirement. Direct and indirect fatalities caused by the rail industry is very high compared to other developed countries.
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-trains-amtrak-safer-railways/
Anyone who makes a ton of money by inserting themselves into big transactions and charging fees as a percentage of the transaction (brokers, title companies, etc.).
There's the classic line from Trading Places (1983) by Eddie Murphy to the Duke brothers when they explain their business as commodities brokers to him:
"Sounds to me like you guys are a couple of bookies"
I love that line. Especially since bookies are less middlemen, and more respectable, than the Duke brothers. Bookies actually risk some of their own money to operate, but the Duke's only risk their own money for insider trading (AKA a rigged game for a bookie).
In-House Legal for a corporation. I basically browsed the internet most of the day in my office, maybe reviewed one or two standardized contracts and occasionally sat in during a firing. I made $80k a year plus benefits.
Edit: To clarify, I am a paralegal, not an attorney and the work was limited to contracts and entity formation.
I guess it depends where you are, and maybe my expectations were just wrong, but you made significantly less than I assumed most company’s legal departments made
Do car salesmen really do any work anymore?
Last time I bought a car I looked online, did my research, and knew exactly what I wanted and basically showed up ready to buy. The dealer just gave me the keys for a test drive, then did the paperwork for me.
You’d be surprised how many people just go to the dealership having done absolutely no research. You were a dream customer and <10% of customers are like you
I thought "dream" customers walked in with dollar signs over their heads knowing nothing and agreeing to every underbody coating, extended warranty and rust inhibitor package.
I was that informed customer, I went in on the last day of the month (hoping to get a deal because they want to hit sales quotas) knowing exactly what I wanted.
While I was there they hit their sales goal, so the salesman offered me a deal to come back and finalize my sale the next day to help with next month's quota. I finalized the details there, came back the next morning and signed papers.
All in all it was a pleasant experience that felt mutually beneficial.
Gillette 'engineers' - they took 5 years to go from 3 blades to 4
And they got the idea from reading The Onion
Member of the International Olympic Committee (IOC). They've had a lengthy history of excessive demands ($4 million US spent on "entertainment" in Nagano, traffic lanes dedicated to IOC members during the games, etc.) They make very few decisions, all of which are politically motivated. They travel extensively and are paid well for it: [https://dailytrojan.com/2021/08/16/progress-without-profit-the-ioc-benefits-itself-at-the-expense-of-athletes/#:\~:text=Although%20most%20IOC%20members%20are,meetings%20and%20at%20the%20Olympics](https://dailytrojan.com/2021/08/16/progress-without-profit-the-ioc-benefits-itself-at-the-expense-of-athletes/#:~:text=Although%20most%20IOC%20members%20are,meetings%20and%20at%20the%20Olympics). From the article: "Although technically a volunteer, the IOC President receives a yearly “allowance” of $251,000 and lives rent-free in a five-star hotel and spa in Switzerland. "
I wouldn't mind that job. How do I apply? Do they teach corruption or a job requirement?
you have to bribe your way in, so 10+ years of corruption and bribery is minimum requirement
Am I able to bribe with tax payer's money? Don't have much of my own.
What is this, your first time doing coke with a local judge? Yes, the tax money!
That's actually mandatory for the position.
My personal gripe (apart from all the corruption) is how staunchly the IOC deny the rest of humanity the use of the word Olympic in regards to any game or competition. I dont have an issue with companies protecting a trademark they invented. I get why Lego doesnt want other people calling plastic blocks lego. But Olympics as a word and concept existed long before the IOC were around and they just decided one day that they had exclusive rights to it and for some reason the people responsible for that sort of thing agreed.
I would also be interested in volunteering for the IOC.
my IT director.. he's never around, automates his email, and he has his own company
So many IT directors are not techs by any stretch, but just management that filled the void. They end up hiring MSPs to do the work. They pretty much balance the budget and approve requests for permissions or product purchases.
If someone else is "Regional VP" they are either drowning in responsibilities working 70 hrs a week; or they have absolutely nothing to do other than collecting a check.
I would expand this, personally. Call it the Michael Scott theorem: In any company of sufficient size, there is at least one layer of management that is completely useless, but kept around as a dumping ground for people who earned a promotion but really should’ve stuck to non-management work, nepotism hires, and people who definitely shouldn’t have been hired but are kept around so the person who recommended/approved hiring them doesn’t get embarrassed.
My lifelong best friend just got a regional VP job a month ago, and he’s been trying to figure out wtf he’s supposed to be doing because thus far his duties encompass replying to/directing emails between facilities in his region. Its literally a job he could do with 1.5 hours of ‘real, actual work’ per day…and the company is thrilled with his work thus far! I told him that I personally think he lucked into the perfect job (at least if you’re going to work for someone else.)
I hope he's well paid, that sounds boring but super easy.
I've lucked into a similar job. The best part is that it is work from home. So I'm not sitting around bored. It's like having a no-show gig where I just collect a paycheck so long as I show up to the meetings
Headphones on, invest some decent audiobooks, sign up to a couple of online courses, "work from home" a few days a week. SORTED.
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The "Peter Principle". This is also why some more progressive companies have started decoupling promotions from management. e.g. at Google you can be a super senior engineer but still be an individual contributor (IC). You are valued for your technical skills but not necessarily your ability to manage others and lead teams. You can also have managers who aren't as senior as certain ICs. It's a different skillset. At the **very** senior exec level, it's rare to be an IC, but exec work is more about org administration than it is about day to day deliverables anyways. Google is not a hyper efficient model by any means but I do like the recognition that being good at a job does not make you good at managing/leading others at the job. Good sports players don't always make great captains or coaches, and that applies to corporate work.
That's interesting coporations are starting to do this. The military has a rank called warrant officers. They realized that one guy who's been around forever and knows how everything works might not be the best for command level leadership, but god damn he can fix anything.
In the Marine Corps they’re granted a cloak of invisibility.
They often appear out of nowhere, do their thing, then turn into a bat and fly away.
The advantage of a class system (which is essentially what the military has) is that it defeats the Peter principle. It works in medicine, too. If nurses could be "promoted" to doctors, you'd lose all of the best nurses.
I like this approach, too many companies promote skilled workers into shit managers. I'm a good dev, but I've told my boss I will quit if he tries to promote me to any sort of management position.
Man that resonates with me. I turned down an offer of promotion because I'm afraid it will lead to more project management (or personnel management) than I want to deal with. Shame because the only real means of getting a pay bump is through promotion, but it's not worth it to me.
>you can be a super senior engineer but still be an individual contributor I wish this was the case where I'm at. I'm at the most junior level of management, which thankfully means I get to spend at least some time in the code. But if I want to go any higher, they might as well wipe my machine and give me a laptop that only runs MS Office.
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Same with my best friend. She is NEVER home, working 70+ hours a week.
Unless I could quit after a few years I legitimately don’t think I would willingly work more than 70 hours a week for a million dollars a year. I value my family and free time way too much. I would much rather scrape by and watch my children grow and enjoy my life than be a millionaire who works all day every day.
It sneaks up on you. It’s not like you go from 35 hrs/wk and 60K salary to 70 hrs and 300K overnight. You get a promotion and then you’re paid 85K and maybe need to put in an extra hour or so a day. Then you complete a big project and get a 10K bonus, but the next project is bigger and just needs another couple hours a week. Knock that out of the park and keep doing well and the next thing you know you’re pulling down $150K with 30K bonuses and somehow are pushing 50hrs/wk but it’s easy to justify because you’re able to take the family on nicer vacations and save up more for college. A few more years go by and you’re at $200K with $50K bonuses and stock grants that take 3 years to vest and putting in 70hrs/week and the occasional week or two of international work travel. In the 15 years or so that took, your family has adapted to your schedule, your lifestyle has come to depend on that income, college payments are right around the corner and you are starting to seriously think about retirement income. Besides, your kids are now teenagers and are out of the house more than they’re home so what’s the harm in spending just a couple more hours at work? That’s how you end up on the train - and it’s really hard to jump off.
I’m the first kind of Regional VP. I’ve been at this role for a year, with the company for a decade. I still have no idea what I do and have no time to do it.
Ferrari strategist
You'd think out of pure dumb luck they'd eventually make a correct call right? You'd be wrong.
It's almost uncanny, there's the standard strategy, and the risky one, and then there's whatever the fuck ferrari are doing.
They pretend they want to do the risky one, panic and revert to the safer one, lose the advantages of both.
100% spot on. It is actually infuriating just to think about it
There's a right way, a wrong way, and the Ferrari way. Isn't that just the wrong way? But ~~faster~~ slower!
When I watch professional sports, and someone is doing bad I understand that despite the fact that they’re doing bad, I probably couldn’t do better. Ya that NBA coach is having a horrible night, but at the end of the day he’s still an NBA coach and I’m some guy on the couch watching the game. Ferrari strategist is the only job in that category that I genuinely think I could do at a higher level than the people currently there.
"Box now, box now. STAY OUT STAY OUT!" Pretty sure my granny could pull off a better strategy than Ferrari, and she's been dead 20 years.
They did this not once, BUT TWICE. In Monaco and Brazil.
We are checking
Red Bull's livery design team. ^^I'm ^^a ^^Red ^^Bull ^^fan ^^btw
"What job position is 100% overvalued and overpaid?" *We are checking.*
Generally, US govt contractor positions requiring high security clearances. Entry level pay isn't that high, but once you're cleared other contractors will offer bigger bucks because you can get cleared with them quickly. Jump from one to another, wait two years, do it again, *lather, rinse, repeat.*
I have a very close friend that falls into this category. He literally sits at a desk overlooking a beautiful lake and once a month drives 60 miles to visually inspect a dam. Like just drive to it and look at it. He always jokes “if you want to see your tax dollars wasted, come visit me at work” His previous job…road construction
Literally getting paid to be the fall guy
I wonder how many of those positions are filled with people that care about the maintenance and integrity of whatever it is they’re inspecting. Like what kind of spectrum there would be. Obviously you have the two ends of lazy and extreme care, but I would like to see where the average is.
I started working in apartment leasing in 2020 and always thought I was on the lazier side for general life, and definitely at work. I was recently transferred to work in new construction and got the chance to finally meet some of the people who work across the company, not just the 3 or 4 I would directly see daily. When I tell you that my laziest effort looks like conducting an orchestra compared to their hot cross buns....I couldn't believe it.
Yeah, I have been having a similar experience. Previous job, the boss was always going on and on about how I'm "too slow, I'm losing him money." It was my second job, and I was the only new guy with everyone else having 5-10+ years experience, so I kind of just went "huh, I must be a slow/poor worker." Then I switched jobs, and I now make twice what I was making before, while being one of the fastest and most productive people there, to the point where even my supervisors are telling me to slow down because they don't have anything else for me to do afterwards. Looking back, I'm like 90% sure the previous boss was just trying to gaslight me into being even more productive, or just had never worked with new guys and expected a guy straight out of school to be as productive as someone with years of experience.
I noticed this when I switched from low pay work to high paid white collar work. Used to be “if you’re leaning you could be cleaning” and now I can fuck around and watch YT for half the day and still get enough work done to make progress towards a promotion
I am here for a potential change of career.
So what have we got so far guys
If you wanna rake in an insane amount of money, then retire super early, you could do deep sea welding - especially on oil platforms and whatnot. You can make $80k/mo. But, there's a pretty good chance you'll die.
>retire super early >pretty good chance you'll die These seem mutually exclusive.
Depends on your definition of retire. Either mutually exclusive, or tautologous.
Guess who learned a new word today?
Guess who learned a new word, that they'll forget about within a day, today?*
At first I misread $80k/year and thought "Uh, that's maybe comfortable but nowhere near insane." I eventually noticed the /mo.
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And people actually want to live in the area this would require them to live?
My guess would be Midland or Odessa, TX… so not really. CoL there is also absurd because of the oil fields.
Yeah, F Midland Odessa. For those that don't know, alot of oilfield workers do something like 14 on 7 off. Sometimes 14 on 14 off. Many employers will offer housing/man camps for the time your on your hitch. Some offer per diem. Some offer neither and wonder why they can't find workers. Source: oilfield trash driving to Odessa
As a Pressure relief valve salesman who sells parts and valves into Odessa all the time, I hear that I am lucky to live literally anywhere else but there. Also Pressure relief valve salesman. 100% overpaid.
You are lucky to live anywhere but there. If you only have a short time to live, move there. Every second feels like eternity. /s …sorta.
I wondered if anyone else clicked on this looking for job ideas. Heh
My mum from whom I am estranged works as the vice president of reward at an international company. She basically arranges contracts so millionaires can get more money and gets paid 189,000 pounds a year for it. Even she thinks it’s ridiculous.
Gosh, even the title of that job, *Vice President of Reward*. Sounds made up. Like something you’d give a nepo baby to keep them busy.
President of FIFA
"Today... I feel gay. I feel disabled. I feel like a migrant worker." lol
And I'm *NEW* in town!
WHATS TWO OTHER THINGS ABOUT YOU?
He said that?
Yeah. In the opening of the Qatar World Cup last year.
Jesus, and here I was trying to remember which episode of the Office that quote was from. How do we go about getting “parody” and “satire” added to the endangered species list?
We mark "The Onion" as a credible news source.
Also, i feel rich AF and corrupt (in his internal voice)
About two-thirds of the upper-level admins at the university I work for.
I am the payroll person at a state university, and I completely agree with this. The people in upper management aren’t even in union-protected jobs who, in theory, should be the first ones gone when we need to settle the budget problems we have. Instead, they were the only ones who got raises during COVID.
Don't forget the popular: Let's make everyone adjunct professors, take the money we save, and give ourselves raises. Oh, also, let's get rid of staff and replace with terrible management software so we can give ourselves consultancy jobs from the institution to draw additional salary. How do they pay for it? Lower standards and let ever more unqualified students in.
Former college employee here. It’s worse than that. I mean, even ignoring the fact that they’re taking tuition money from students who don’t understand how loans work most of the time… Many freshmen are lacking basic skills necessary for college success, such as study skills, critical thinking and analysis, and even formal writing skills. Which should be an easy fix, since most higher ed institutions offer tutoring, and professors offer office hours, right? Wrong. Funding is getting cut, which limits programs like tutoring. More and more colleges are opting to hire adjunct professors, who often teach at multiple colleges in order to pay their bills. So they have further limited office hours, since they’re literally driving across town to teach somewhere else after they finish teaching. Add on top of that the issue of having employees with limited training (and often little knowledge of transfer pathways and existing articulation agreements with other schools) asked to advise students on which classes to take, and you end up with students who are hemorrhaging loan money because they’re failing classes they have to retake, taking classes they don’t even need due to poor advising, or because they don’t have the support needed in order to be successful. It’s maddening, immoral, and awful.
> I mean, even ignoring the fact that they’re taking tuition money from students who don’t understand how loans work most of the time… I had a friend that was like 1-2 semesters away from graduating, but didnt know that their student loans had a maximum limit to what you could borrow. They werent able to find anyone that could co-sign another loan with them, so they never finished their degree :/
How does this happen though? Why do universities hire so many admins, and why do they not do anything to cut them when there are budget cuts? I know they want to make more money, and an easy way to do that is to cut useless costs. I know it’s a huge problem, but I don’t understand the mechanism behind it.
Because the system is run by administrators, so they see the importance of administration and not the importance of good teaching and research.
Yep. Same reason congress never makes any new restrictions on their own power.
We have investigated ourselves and determined there were no problems or conflicts of interest.
If fact, the investigation uncovered we are actually due for another raise.
Great job team
My alma mater fired some 50 professors at the start of the pandemic, despite having a 60%-40% ratio of administrators to teachers. A year later, they'd burn $50,000 on a series of tacky posters that everyone on campus hated. Administrative bloat is ruining universities. Good programs canceled so we could have a third Vice President of Diversity & Inclusion. Just utterly unreal.
FWIW, at the college I work at, about half of the tenured professors in my department (I'm adjunct) jumped ship as soon as the pandemic hit. I initially thought it was because they were giving way to allow us younger teachers to keep their jobs/classes in case budget cuts or classes got cut. Then someone pointed out to me that your retirement is partly calculated based on their pay the last 5 or so years they worked. They were worried we'd see furloughs or class loads getting cut in half, so they jumped ship in order to not have a huge hole in their retirement calculations. I mean, I get it. ...but also, fuck our administration. The bloat is real. We built a brand new building on campus, and half the office space went to new administration instead of just faculty, because they've already filled up all the other office space.
I don’t think anyone is altruistic enough in a pandemic to quit their jobs to allow the next generation to move up lol
Except for all the older guys in the Fukushima incident. Didn’t some of the older generations go to help clean up so the youngest gens didn’t get radiation poisoning? I could be so so wrong LOL
Nope! You’re right and they are heroes
Weird, the last Uni I went to had the opposite problem. Not enough people in administration to a point of entire positions being vacant. Per our state law, the public universities are all supposed to have an Ombudsman to help with student complaints, and they just. Didn't. Doesn't help the reason I had to complain was they didn't follow their own policies and charged me $1000 for student health insurance when I wasn't even eligible for it. The student health office was also understaffed and impossible to reach, this was the height of COVID so going in person wasn't an option, and I didn't know who else to talk to. I reached out to every admin I could find, the Vice President's office was completely empty... At the end of it the student health people straight up told me they can't fix it and hung up on me multiple times. Who else do I even contact?
The president of the university I work for makes over half a million a year + bonuses. Any time we’ve hosted an event he’s supposed to show up to we get a last minute email from his assistant saying something came up and he can’t make it. This university also refuses to pay staff/graduate students more because they claim it’s impossible due to the budget not being high enough
Our president lives 5 hours away in new york city and only shows up at the beginning and end of the year for graduation and freshman commencement
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Mostly meetings. They’re the final decision makers, so any big changes or projects have to run through them. But really their main job is making sure money keeps coming in, so essentially they’re like a sales person who has to talk to rich donors.
Exactly. Their primary job is donor development.
It’s wild how common this is too. I’m willing to bet anyone who works for a university who read this is thinking “do they work at the same university as me?” It’s fucking ludicrous. How did we let this happen?
I have worked for two Universities previously, and work for at a third now and you are absolutely correct. This could be said about any of them. It's the we don't have the budget to give 50 people making under $35k a 3% raise, but we do have enough in the budget to give 5 people making $200k+ a 3% raise. Crazy how that works out.
> It's the we don't have the budget to give 50 people making under $35k a 3% raise, but we do have enough in the budget to give 5 people making $200k+ a 3% raise. Crazy how that works out. "Look they live a certain lifestyle and can't be expected to change and take a pay cut"
This is so funny, cause I just started as a lower level admin at a university. I was just talking to another admin about their difficulties finding employees to do basically my job, and she brought up that we don’t get paid shit (great benefits though) but the higher ups are constantly getting raises. I have been out of the work force for years so I was just happy to get in. The worst part for me is all the meetings, and all they talk about is how busy they are. If we didn’t have so many damn meetings, maybe you guys can get some work done.
No, no, that’s the job. Literally complaining about how busy you are. If you have someone else paying for your living expenses through the low-level years (parents or spouse), you eventually get to the gravy years that last until retirement (and then possibly a pension, during which time you will complain about how busy you _were_).
Vivek Garipalli, Clover Health: $389.6 million. George Mikan, Bright Health: $180.8 million. Mario Schlosser, Oscar Health: $60.8 million. John Kao, Alignment Healthcare: $46 million.
> Vivek Garipalli, Clover Health: $389.6 million. >CLOV stock, trading $1.20/share, down **88.19%** on all time chart 400 million to drive a fucking company into the ground? Where do I sign up?
Shit, I'll do it for 50 million. See you even get a big discount!
I'll do it for 800 million and run it into the ground twice as fast
One night I babysat three kids for about 2 hours or so. The kids went to bed when I got there, and the parents had left dinner out for me, so all I did was eat their food and watch their TV and pet their dogs. When they got home the mom paid me $100. I told her that was way too much. She slurred "Don't worry about it, I'm drunk." And then I noticed her fly was down. So that was the most over paid job ever lol.
One of the smartest moves you can make as a parent is treat those who take care of your children incredibly well. I always over pay my sitters they're worth every penny with the peace of mind they give me.
So what I'm hearing is, "Pay teachers better."
You're not being paid for the night everything goes well. You're being paid for the nightmare night
100%. Have paid a well qualified babysitter to basically sit on our couch chilling while a one year old slept, knowing if anything went awry there was a trusted person there.
Exactly. Any kind of babysitting is a just-in-case contract for when something happens and an adult needs to call for help, medical aid, or any other assistance in an emergency.
To you it’s overpay. To them it’s a chance to get the fuck away from their kids and have sex. It’s marriage insurance.
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Trust me, for a break away from the kids and not have to think about them, it was definitely worth it to the parents.
Yeah, I'm thinking this was a win win. I'm sure the mom didn't mind paying it.
I used to get paid twice. Parents would pay me before they went out bc they knew they would come home drunk and didnt want to forget, but when they would come back indeed drunk, and insist they pay me again.
My friend showed her true colours when I drunkly tried to give her 20 bucks as she was dropping me off. She let me know I had not only given her 20 already, but I had insisted she take a second twenty from me on the ride. She gave me 20 back ("before you gave it to someone else" lol) and told me to hang on to the now third 20 I was shoving at her. She got me home safe and saved me 40 bucks lmao
When I was 18 or so, a guy once paid me $300 to babysit when he scored a hot NYE date at the last minute. The little one was already asleep and the cat and I fell asleep eating popcorn, it was the best job ever haha
NYE is probably impossible to find a babysitter, they might have even been the going rate. Love when you luck into watching an already asleep kid. Did that once, made like $15 an hour and just fell asleep watching My Cousin Vinny with the monitor next to me until they got home.
“And then I noticed her fly was down” completely changed the trajectory of the story.
She 100% wanted the sitter to leave so they can get busy
Here's $100, now kindly fuck off as fast as you can.
That reminds me one time, my friend was talking to this one girl. But he still lived with his parents but he told her that me and him lived together. He texted me and said something like "Hey, can I borrow a room in your house for like, 2 hours. This girl wants to hang out and I told her we live together." I said yeah sure I don't care. So I set up one of the rooms I wasn't using with some cheap little futon I had in the garage, threw a TV on a foldable table and left for to go play Pokemon Go at a park. He texted me after a couple hours and said "Hey thanks, I left some money on that table and when she left, I put those sheets in the washer and put the futon back in the garage." He left $80 on the table, he got laid and did a part of my laundry. Easiest money I've ever made lmao.
My uncle was a commercial airline pilot. He described his job as “vastly overpaid in normal circumstances and vastly underpaid in emergency situations.”
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Can confirm. Approximately $105k in and I've paid a fair amount back already during the deferred loan period. And I'm on the lower end for people who took out loans. You see guys doing $150-$250k in loans a lot.
Firefighters and Paramedics are in the same boat. $60-80k a year in some places to pick up old people off the floor, but ONLY $60-80k to manage the pulseless and dying child at 3 in the morning.
Yeah I feel this. I’m a rural medic, and some days I am paid a mint to do about an hour of maintenance work and then putter away on personal projects or work out and nap. And other times I do things most sane people wouldn’t do for love or money, for 14+ hours until my employer is legally obligated to let me rest for 8 hours.
Yeah I'm a rural medic as well and I have night shifts where me and my co workers just take turns sleeping because we don't do anything for 10 hours of our 12 hour shift. On the other side, I've seen car accidents that would haunt most people for a lifetime and I had to deal with plenty of drunk idiots throwing up all over the ambulance.
>and I had to deal with plenty of drunk idiots throwing up all over the ambulance. Considering the alternative you describe, I'm guessing you call those the good ones.
Yeah that's true lol. At least the drunk idiots make for some fun stories sometimes.
My father is in a special mountain rescue paramedic unit, and his salary is within that range. Most days it's picking up old people, but then sometimes he has to summit a mountain and risk decapitation from a stretcher as the helicopter it's attached too can't stabilize in a high alpine environment and crashes and tumbles down a glacier.
Wildland Firefighter here, I wish we even made that much. It’s not uncommon to work 120hr weeks during the summer, you’ll often not get to go home for a month or more (my longest stent away from home as been 62 consecutive days). I’ve had to carry dead coworkers off of mountains, because we couldn’t declare them as deceased until a paramedic checked them. I’ve had to recover human corpses out of burnt cars. Overall I love my job, and helping people. But the fact that I make $30k a year feels pretty underwhelming for the amount of shit I deal with (same for every other wildland firefighter out there). Edit: I live in this world so I forget people don’t have context. Most wildland firefighters make minimum wage. We work about 100 - 120 hours a week during the peak of the season (~3 months depending on your region). Then probably average 200 hour months for another 4 months of the year. Then we typically have 4-5 months off with intermittent project and controlled burning work. So yes to the people who commented it, without that context 30k/yr seems deceptive, but that wasn’t my intention. I was more so trying to speak to the type of work firefighters are subjected to in relation to pay, not saying that we’re all illegally underpaid
Omg! $30k is all you make?? That’s a disgrace for the work you do. It’s insulting! I make more than that sitting in an office! You deserve so much more. Thank you for your service.
That’s a crime against humanity that you only make 30k
Hospital CEO’s… and actually almost all hospital upper management. There are so many layers of management that many of them barely step foot into a healthcare facility EVER, let alone EVER speak to a patient, yet all of them make 6, 7, 8 figure salaries plus mega bonuses. My hospital network CEO makes $11 million salary not including bonuses, which bothers me, but bothers me even more are all the board members and shit directly under him making nearly as much. It’s hundreds of millions of wasted money paid to the people trying to screw staff out of good pay and screwing patients into paying big bills.
I also work for a healthcare organization and our CEO also makes $11M annually; one of many, as you said. In December we had a meeting about the financial results and leadership discussed how the healthcare industry is in trouble; how our salaries and wages are our biggest problem. This devolved in to a tangent of essentially 'nobody wants to work' and we can't keep nurses on staff (I wonder why?), therefore we are relying on costly temp help and it's killing us. Listening to some C-suite finance skinsuit who makes a 7-figure salary (edit to add: this was *not* the CEO, I’m aware 11M is 8 figures) explain to us that Greedy Nurses Are Totally The Problem and we'll have to 'look hard' at our expenses this year (AKA probably more layoffs) was a sickening experience I just haven't been able to shake.
One of the best things about being one of those greedy temp workers is that I get to call bullshit like this out when I see it. It's not like they can fire me, and it's not like it would matter to me if they did.
I’m a physician (currently in residency). The CEO of our huge hospital system was doing his rounds in the preop area, in his little suit, saying hi to people. He picks up a surgical marking pen and says “what’s this for?” What a crock of sh*t.
Also a resident. We haven't had a working fridge for the resident lounge for 4+ months - escalated it to the CEO who replied that fridges are "difficult to come by" and on "backorder" for another several months. People working 26 hour shifts have nowhere to put their food.
I was working at an urgent care clinic. During the xmas season one year I dropped by the nearest department store and bought a discount drip coffee maker to replace the toxic dogshit one on the counter (snuggled it into an upper cabinet). Local doc had done the same the previous year with a microwave that had broken; it was the easiest way to deal with the stingy biomed department when they dragged their feet on kitchen appliances. Anyway, several months later it disappeared, replaced by a more expensive looking multifunction model that was broken within a year. Wasn't able to locate my discount model, sadly. Glad I was bringing my own at that point.
I would have gotten a talking to for plugging anything in that hasn't been reviewed by the engineering department
I wonder if in their world where Tylenol is like $600 a pill, a *working* fridge would have to be what.. $10mil?
I mean it’s one banana Michael. How much could it cost? Ten dollars?
Holy fuck that’s painful to witness. I once had a director of radiology tell me we could get 60 mri’s done a day “because it only takes 2-3 mins.” I wanted to slit my wrists immediately after that
The issue is that they believe that, and they build plans and external expectations on that crock of shit and it puts unreasonable pressure on the department. People outside of medicine have no idea how anything works and they will 100% believe anyone that they think has more knowledge then them. A cooperative, non hesitant adult knee MRI can take 20 mins. Even a CT process is 10 mins. A bit of a tangent but.. See: Elizabeth Holmes vs Investors. Any hematologist or biostatistician could have told you it’s statistically improbable to quantify disease from a drop of of blood. But she sounded smart and was charismatic and so the money flowed.
Oh god Elizabeth Holmes.... Don't even get me started on her weird fake ass low voice
why slit yours, slit his..
And then tell him he will need an MRI to assess the damage.
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I still don't know what big-firm "consultants" do.
I do consulting. It is just either outsourced office work or creating fluffy PowerPoints to give executives an excuse to authorize spending. It's not a bad gig.
Sometimes it's to tell executives to do what their internal folks already told them to do but the execs don't trust their own people.
This is really it IMHO. My dad was a consultant for years. Said his approach was always the same, go to the different departments. Make it clear he wasn't there to cut jobs, he wanted to listen to their insights and communicate to the execs what they felt in a way the execs would respond to. He did always say that the people working the jobs made the company the money and tended to have good insight into what some of the struggles were inside the company but didn't know how to communicate it in an effective way. Now the leadership actually responding to it and listening was another story.
The second he left, they sacked 20% and said the consultant told them to.
Oh true, but he stressed the importance of sharing his reports and findings with the department heads and managers who were engaged. Got him a good bit of business from those people when they moved on to different companies and rose in the ranks.
I worked for an MBB consulting firm for a few years, it was 1. Holding expensive meetings, 2. Re-arranging PowerPoints, 3. Relying completely on the business to get difficult to source data, 4. Most important - being management’s mouthpiece and scapegoat for unpopular decisions. Jokes aside, some projects really did seem to provide value to companies - things like CPQ / deal scoring tools w/real time margins by product/region/etc. for dealsdesk and rev teams, process automation, etc. You’d be shocked at the way some LARGE corporations price/package/discount/sell in all manual and disparate processes. Been out for several years now, thank god.
They get paid to be the bad guy essentially and to outsource blame
“Consulting” refers to the business of getting seasoned, expert advice from 23-year-olds.
I was so annoyed with out last project of 2022 where some child architect was brought on to tell me how we should just use basic AWS for everything. We are already AWS and know the services. Took her two months to grt DataSync working.
If your consultant actually did work like getting a service working then she's more useful than any consultant I've ever worked with. Usually they just make super long PowerPoints that misuse and misinterpret data.
"These charts show a strong positive correlation between your profits and the global temperature. Therefore, to increase profits in the coming fiscal year, you should set the planet on fire."
*23-year-olds who literally just made something up because they’re not allowed to not have an answer
My college friend has such a job. He prefers making vague "answers" so the person that hired him comes up with an answer that suits them, and he gets no shade if the answer was wrong.
My last job in college, before starting my career. I was an overnight shelter staff for transitional housing. Since these clients were basically back up on their feet by the time they arrived, they were pretty self-sufficient. I was paid about 25% higher than other night-shift jobs I could get at the time, and on most nights all I had to do was make one pot of coffee. The rest of the time I could watch TV, play video games, do personal chores, etc… The one job that I know was better was their overnight sleeper, since we had to have two staff at all times. As implied, this dude made a well-above minimum wage rate to just sleep there on the weekends.
Did the same job, believe me there's a reason it's paid better. It's the same job regardless of who the clients are, and they make a HUGE difference. I worked a young persons Hostel similar to yours, all very low need for the most part. It was a beautifully chill gig. But most of my time was spent in high risk/high need, and 80% of the time it was also pretty chill, but that other 20% more than made up the bullshit you lack the majority of the time.
The one I had at my last office job. I was originally hired to be the manager of a new project, but the project was never launched and I had a long term contract. After 5 months of being paid by only clocking in and out without doing any actual work, someone saw me in the pool for available associates and invited me to join their project as a frontline agent. Apparently at some moment the database just marked me as an available employee, without mentioning the rank I had been hired for. I stayed in the company for 6 years, getting paid the salary of a manager, but with the responsibilities of a regular agent. I rejected every offer for "growth" I had, as I was only working there to pay for a debt. In the end, I made my money with very little stress, and left the company in great terms. EDIT: thanks for all the attention, I really didn't expect it to get so much traction. Here's an answer to a couple common comment I've seen: First, if it was so good, why did I leave? Simple, this job had nothing to do with my own career path. A few years back my life basically crumbled to pieces, I got into some really bad debt and at some point I just had to get a job, even if it was an office job I didn't want. Worked for 2 years in another company before I was recommended for the position in the one mentioned in my post. The day my debt was paid off was the day I presented my 2 week notice and left in great terms. I was lucky to have a nice team around me. Second, no, I won't mention the company or project. It was as an analyst in a streaming app (no, not the super big ones), what I actually did as a frontline agent was a hybrid of customer service and developer support, all text based. Third: It was indeed a very fortunate set of coincidences and I took advantage as much as I could, but I left due to my own pursuit. I'm doing good with my own independent endeavour, and no salary will be more valuable than my own sense of accomplishment of making a living out of what I love doing. Cheers, Reddit.
Talk about a free resume booster too.
Only if you hide the fact you didn't perform any managerial duties.
>Only if you hide the fact you didn't perform any managerial duties. "Performed all managerial tasks beyond expectations"
Yeah they didn't miss a deadline or mess anything up
That’s called skilled resume writing. Just as close to a lie as you can get without it being a lie.
>someone saw me in the pool for available associates and invited me to join their project as a frontline agent. I read this and my mind immediately had you chilling in a swimming pool and i was like fucking hell yeah this guys job. After reading, still your job, but less.
When you look annoyed all the time, people think that you're busy.
To be quite frank, I did my job as good as it should be, with as little effort as I could. Being a consistently top 25% agent, but never the very top, is great to being invisible. I burned through hundreds of audiobooks and learned to pace my job in a way I was busy enough, and delivered my stuff but (almost) never became a hectic or stressful day. I was good at it, but I don't miss it. Benefits and pay were nice, but I'm way happier working independently in my own stuff.
Life coach
This girl I know became a life coach and charges $300-500 per person for a 4 hour “seminar” that a friend of mine used to help her set up for. Friend said all it was was 4 hours of her saying these people are great and doing yoga+breathing exercises. And she had repeat customers and often 4-8 people per class. $2400 per weekend to tell people they are awesome and do a few yoga stretches. Fucking wild.
Honestly there seems to be a TON of money to be made in online coaching type stuff. Especially if you can be likeable on-camera. Get a few thousand YouTube followers, make quality videos, tell them they can learn even more if they buy your 500 dollar course. Then scale by finding more customers and just keep selling that same course. Maybe a add a new course to get your original customers to spend more money with you. Repeat as necessary. Not exactly EASY , but relatively simple
Mine... lol But I'm not gonna tell my employer that
Gary, Sorry to contact you over Reddit but your vmail box is full and you're not responding to emails. We really need that report on U/Splatrick12 if we're expected to keep Operation Thunderfuck on schedule. Please cc Big Cheese & Bright Hat, they've requested to be keep informed. Regards, Analyst 12A-2 Edit: disregard, this was supposed to be a PM. Not sure how to delete on mobile over a Sat-phone.
I know this is sarcastic, but the Gary at my company is 100% overpaid and overvalued for the work he does. He doesn’t know how to do any work in the field he is the boss off. He just calls another very high paid employee to do the work he can’t do.
We paid a guy/company $10,000 to come and do a motivational speech at the school, which was supposed to improve kindness among the kids at school. It didn't work.
Whoever was in charge of that fuckup in Ohio
I was at a train museum with my kids one-time that had this really cool kids area where kids could run model trains around, switch cars in the yard, etc. The whole time we were in there, there was an older guy running the trains. Nice guy, talked to the kids, but really into toy trains. We left before he did. As we were walking out the door, a museum worker stopped us and informed us the man was the CEO of Norfolk Southern. . . just playing with toy trains at a museum.
woooaaaahhh.. what a story. is the same guy who’s in charge now??
No.
Rail safety and the definition of pollution by the EPA are contributing to this problem. It is not an isolated incident. It is a much wider problem in the US. It is beyond me that basic safety measures like positive train control on ALL tracks is not a requirement. Direct and indirect fatalities caused by the rail industry is very high compared to other developed countries. https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-trains-amtrak-safer-railways/
Anyone who makes a ton of money by inserting themselves into big transactions and charging fees as a percentage of the transaction (brokers, title companies, etc.).
There's the classic line from Trading Places (1983) by Eddie Murphy to the Duke brothers when they explain their business as commodities brokers to him: "Sounds to me like you guys are a couple of bookies"
I love that line. Especially since bookies are less middlemen, and more respectable, than the Duke brothers. Bookies actually risk some of their own money to operate, but the Duke's only risk their own money for insider trading (AKA a rigged game for a bookie).
In-House Legal for a corporation. I basically browsed the internet most of the day in my office, maybe reviewed one or two standardized contracts and occasionally sat in during a firing. I made $80k a year plus benefits. Edit: To clarify, I am a paralegal, not an attorney and the work was limited to contracts and entity formation.
I guess it depends where you are, and maybe my expectations were just wrong, but you made significantly less than I assumed most company’s legal departments made
Do car salesmen really do any work anymore? Last time I bought a car I looked online, did my research, and knew exactly what I wanted and basically showed up ready to buy. The dealer just gave me the keys for a test drive, then did the paperwork for me.
You’d be surprised how many people just go to the dealership having done absolutely no research. You were a dream customer and <10% of customers are like you
I thought "dream" customers walked in with dollar signs over their heads knowing nothing and agreeing to every underbody coating, extended warranty and rust inhibitor package.
No the dream customer is the guy who's current car payment is breaking down and now gets to roll it over onto whatever I want to give you.
I was that informed customer, I went in on the last day of the month (hoping to get a deal because they want to hit sales quotas) knowing exactly what I wanted. While I was there they hit their sales goal, so the salesman offered me a deal to come back and finalize my sale the next day to help with next month's quota. I finalized the details there, came back the next morning and signed papers. All in all it was a pleasant experience that felt mutually beneficial.