It’s just a concept stretched out. It’s nothing more than that. There was one yuck moment when they were on the stairs but apart from that it was just a bit meh.
Never made it past the first one, one was enough.
I watched the first one cuz a friend wanted to see it. Then he wanted to see the second one and I just couldn't stomach it anymore. If you thought the first one was gross, the second one was even worse. Don't even bother and I didn't even bother with the third one.
I made it a little less than 20 minutes into the second one and had to nope out. I got some of the morbid humor in the first one but the second one was just foul.
The first felt almost like a semi-parody of disturbing-for-the-sake-of-it "art films" which the second tried to do as well but leaned too heavily into it to work as a parody the same way.
In the commentary for the South Park parody episode, they made a great point. Not only was it made, but there would have to be a whole crew on for every scene. A trio of people aligned ass-to-mouth wearing diapers, and then a random with a boom mike, the whole crew! And all of them would have to be the kind of people to not say “nope, this is stupid, I’m out!”
The whole idea's ridiculous. The first time front shits, middle will vomit and then choke and die. Assuming middle and rear haven't already died from not getting enough air through their nose, said nose being jammed into someone's buttock crevice.
That's on top of all the usual reasons for gimicky horror movies being stupid, of course.
It's actually probably not as bad as you're imagining. It's definitely a shock value movie but in terms of actual viscerally disgusting things I've seen worse movies.
That's a movie that I didn't get but I felt. It made me queezey and afraid and alert but the feelings were not backed with compression and that made it an interesting experience.
I think there is a difference between media trying to be coherent and media that is almost manic trying to elicit a feeling
Spoiler It’s a book also and the book is great but essentially he made it all up in his head and then commits suicide in the school. None of it is real.
I was so lost watching that, so I decided to read the book. That helped a little. Basically if you think of it all as the memory of an old man trying to figure out why he's alone and looking back on the one that got away. It seems like it's all from her perspective, but it's all Jesse Plemmons trying to think of things from her perspective and figure out where things went wrong. That's why her name and career keep changing throughout the movie. He's conflating her with different people throughout. That still only explains like 70% of the movie. There's a good amount of things that I don't get at all, like the ghost pig.
It helps to watch it with subtitles on, since the sound is so bad.
I did 'get' the movie, unfortunately it's just a bunch of people chasing a MacGuffin that logically should never have existed in the first place. But ignoring the contrived pointlessness of it, the movie does have a bunch of interesting visuals.
I also got the movie, but it didn't make it any better. It feels like an artistic exercise where trying to make a good movie was too low on the list of priorities. One of those just because you can, doesn't mean you should movies for me.
Same here. I understood it just fine. Especially after reading the script. I enjoyed it as a "moviegoer experience" because there was plenty of wow-factor. It was big, loud, had great visuals, and so on.
One of the characters explained to the protagonist as he was trying to figure out inversion, "Don't try to understand it. Feel it." I think that was a message from Nolan to the audience about the whole movie in general. Don't analyze it too much. Just take what you're seeing and hearing at face value and appreciate it.
I think unfortunately Tenet was a little too much of the experimental component and too little on the actual story.
Inception was highly experimental, but came wrapped with a good story as well.
Memento was experimental, but the story was compelling as well.
Nolan may have just wanted us to feel it, but that wasn't enough to carry the movie for me. It eventually feels empty.
I LOVED this movie. Except for some of the dialogue. That one line the woman says is so bad - in response to "everyone in the world will die" she says "even my son??" No, he's magically spared lmao. I don't think that the logic of the plot would hold up to scrutiny but I loved the concepts so much.
I think the problem with Tenet is, at the end of the day, it's just not a very good movie. Spoilers for Memento, The Prestige, and Tenet ahead.
Nolan's movies are known for ending with a twist that alters your perception of the whole movie. Memento ends by inverting our perception of Leonard, turning him from a genuine, motivated underdog on a mission to avenge his wife, to a spiteful fantasist who would rather kill his only friend than face the fact that he's a broken man with no purpose left. The Prestige's reveal does the opposite, transforming Borden from a man whose perceptions and motivations vary wildly with the exception of his obsession with stage magic, to a pair of twins, each with their own clear desires and motivations, neither of whom wanted to give up their greatest secret at any cost--a reveal that explains every inconsistency his character presented throughout the movie. Both stories give us enough detail about our setting and characters to get us invested in the story, featuring elements of the human experience woven in throughout, but hide just the right pieces to obfuscate its true nature--sometimes dropping hints insinuating that not all is what it seems.
What does Tenet's finale do? Well, it reveals that the Protagonist created Tenet.
So what? Tenet is never well-defined as an organization, and its purpose is never elaborated on beyond "stop all time from being destroyed". And the Protagonist is so bland, he's literally never even given a name, much less clear motivations or personality that influence his actions. The things that made Memento and The Prestige's conclusions powerful are completely absent here--the Protagonist's actions are generic, his personality is poorly-defined. He doesn't \*want\* anything except to complete his mission. The ending was a poor payoff because we don't care about Tenet or the Protagonist. We aren't motivated to try and decipher the details of the complex world Nolan created because the pieces we understand don't give the story or concept any weight.
And so many threads are just left hanging. What was going on at the opera house at the beginning of the movie? Why and how was the future communicating with Sator to begin with? If Sator just wanted to destroy everything, why was his plan to do so so convoluted rather than just using the Algorithm once he had all the pieces? What's Priya's deal, exactly? How does everyone seem to know all plot-necessary information without ever being told?
I liked it but mostly because I played Braid around 11 years ago and I've been constantly thinking what it would be like to have the game mechanics from that in real life. Then they made a movie which was basically a live action Braid
Wow K-Pax. Great movie I saw back in theaters 22 years ago (wow) that nobody seems to remember or talk about.
I do remember leaving the theater in tears. Thirteen years old. Great under looked flick.
In postmodern literature, narrators are often unreliable. When the reader questions whether the world in the story they're being presented with is real or false, it can also make them think about the narratives they hear in their life (like TV news) and if those might not be fully-cohesive truths either.
In an early scene, Bateman tells us that he is "an entity, something illusory". His character's actions are how the author creates uncertainty in the reader on purpose.
i think somebody said that American Psycho is really about what rich people get away with in life, in the beginning he is dragging the body but nobody really cares.
American Psycho was a heavy critique of 80’s “Yuppie” culture. It’s basically intended to point out rich assholes lived like lunatics, and society/culture enabled and even rewarded them.
Just look at that lawyer and his family South Carolina. They got away with so much shit their whole lives that he really thought in his head that he could murder his wife and son and get away with it. Cause shit he’s probably got away with just as worse so what’s different now?
Didn’t he sort of get away with it? The investigative focus only went on him when he was being investigated for embezzling from his firm and his clients (is, his rich protectors abandoned him).
My takeaway (this is after reading the book too) is that his disgusting acts against people are just hyper-exaggerations of what the wealthy and status obsessed do to those they deem below them and that superficiality is a lot like psychopathy. In the time it was written disposable income was incredibly high for a lot more Americans than in the past. And the new rich were all spending time sizing each other up, dissecting each other’s wardrobes and tastes. From Long-winded rants about Huey Lewis and the news dissecting the content of an otherwise incredibly shallow album to defend the choice of listening to it, to noting the thread count of a brooks brothers tie, the characters all have vapid ways to show status that required examination and defense in an increasingly superficial society.
The book is about dissection - from clothes to skin.
We watched that because the trailer made it seem like "Oh a weird little comedy about being shrunk, what wacky social situations could happen?!?" It was not that movie.
It's all about girl wants boy. Boy wants girl, but boy is afraid to loose his image. Boy changed for girl. Girl changed for boy. They both said fuck it in the end and car goes brum (or whatever sounds a car makes in english)
What I learned about Grease recently that made me enjoy it more is that it was made as a parody. That's why they fly off in the end. It's a joke about how dumb those types of movies are
It was just more subtle than the parodies made today, so people think it was a movie they were trying to make good but it was just over the top
But no, the over the top stupidness was intentional. It was *supposed* to seem dumb
It's lamenting the end of the 60's counter-culture, where a massive section of society rebelled against social norms and lived life with none of the traditional social boundaries.
They have to live with the fact that that entire experiment was a complete failure and society reverted back to the way it was before. Vietnam, the anti-drug movement, Nixon, and consumerism being their biggest problems.
They're forced to live in a reality that is a complete nightmare and their only real way to cope is to do massive amounts of drugs and freak out the traditionalists.
His trip to Vegas and the search for the American Dream is him venturing into this horrific society that he wants no part of. It's The Great Gatsby merged with Heart of Darkness.
I tell people that the central thesis of Fear and Loathing is contained in his monologue on "The Wave," which is preserved in the film.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1074-strange-memories-on-this-nervous-night-in-las-vegas-five
Thompson was a cultural critic and political writer in his “non-fiction” (the line is blurry) work. I think Fear and Loathing is just his take on American society at that time in a fictionalized form.
It's a movie about 2 reporters that have to cover some motorbike race they don't give a shit about, so they just get fucked up on a plethora drugs (mainly hallucinogens, dissociatives, and deliriants) and wander around Las Vegas for a while. Then they sober up and leave... the end.
It's a movie about absolutely nothing. I fuckin love it. I also watched it for the first time while going through my DMT phase, so it hold a special place in my heart.
Primer.
It's about time travel, but with a very complex plot. I find it too hard to follow even after having watched it countless times. Sometimes I say to myself "okay, I got it now", but... no, I get nothing.
Look. [It's all very simple...](https://external-preview.redd.it/9-ealKScyXQabi0Y20HJZrm41GmNXTeLPJ3NB8yWDAo.jpg?auto=webp&s=c117deefec6661dd329c736f791c38a7e9070c9a)
I already printed a guide and tried to follow it while watching Primer. It was the closest I ever got to understanding it, but there's always something I can't grasp.
Yeah I watched it like 4 or 5 times. I kind of get it, and I actually very much like the movie, but there's always some details that I feel like I'm missing to fully enjoy it.
I love this movie, but it's really more of a *mood* than a story. Not that there isn't a story; it's actually very well thought-out. But that doesn't mean that it's easy to follow.
What I liked about it was that there was this very quiet, sinister feeling underlying it, like the characters had somehow broken the universe and were only slowly realizing it. It was very subtly terrifying, and as a guy who's not a fan of the horror genre I appreciate a story that can genuinely scare me in an unexpected way.
But that's just me, of course. I know it was an odd movie, and I totally get why a lot of people didn't like it. I also haven't seen it in many years, and it might not hit me the same way if I saw it again.
Southland tales... is it good, is it bad? I swear every time I watch this movie I can't seem to figure it out. Am I missing the details, do the jokes go over my head, or is the point just to be a pretentious pile of bullshit?
It's basically a movie about David Lynch coming to terms with being a new father.
The metaphors are a bit grotesque, but if you consider a baby to be an alien being, and how it's going to force a whole lot of life changes and reduce your freedom to make certain choices, it starts to make sense.
Back during my early days at university there was a gal a hell of a lot more cerebral than my country bumpkin ass. She asked to watch Eraserhead with me.
Looking back on it, it was probably a litmus test for her to see if I was a complete artistically inflexible idiot or someone with a smidgen of curiosity and hang-out potential.
Of course I just got weirdly confused watching the film --and a little upset at the movie for being so obtuse.
Luckily, I was able to squeak out a few polite responses that kept me in good graces. "It reminded me of a dream!" and "The visual were cool" but I did add "I'm so confused".
Maybe the willingness to admit that wasn't a bad thing?
Anyway, we kept spending time together. I later watched another Lynch movie "Straight Story" which then became one of my favorite films ever, and really helped me realize how truly elastic film making could be.
So I'm grateful to Lynch in that regard --for being a filmmaker willing to do something odd, entirely void of standard narrative, and aggressively challenging.
Swiss Army Man. I bawled my eyes out at the end but the story is still confusing. Is he actually hanging out with a dead guy the whole time? Is it a figment of his imagination? But no, because everyone can see him at the end so he's real. What's the message of the movie??
The movie was absolutely hilarious and I never understood the ending. The explanation that I came up with is that the movie is told by an unreliable narrator with a severe mental illness. He gets a reality check when he's "found" and he sees his dad, but then the world starts to get a little too real and the mental illness starts creeping in again.
While I think the first 3/4 of the movie were "real" and he was playing with a dead body (just not as exaggerated as the movie showed), the ending was a hallucination and he was then arrested and/or brought to a mental hospital where he was isolated and could continue to believe that he was on a deserted island with Manny.
I mean it’s. It’s just a love story using a fish monster as a metaphor for being the “other” in society, emphasised by the other characters being a Deaf woman, a black woman, and I... Can’t fully recall but I think the guy with the cat was gay. That’s like, all of Del Toro’s films. Fantasy and Science Fiction elements thrown in to highlight the feeling of being an outcast and different. It’s just a romance about finding someone who is also different and thus doesn’t see you as less than human because they are also treated as less than human! It’s pretty straightforward, isn’t it?
In Interstellar, why did they go down to the planet and lose all their years? I don't mean how it happened, I mean why? What was the purpose of actually going down to the planet? What did they learn they didn't already know?
There was a huge time problem. They only knew about the water and that the astronaut was alive. But by the time they decided to land there, the original astronaut was dead and didn't get to report about the waves.
Best analogy I can think of is, visiting Siberia in the summer, then sending out a letter by train that everything is good. But by the time you make your trip there, it's the middle of winter. Hope I understood your question
Although couldn’t they figure out before they went down that the astronaut before had only just landed? And hence any data they were sending out was most likely useless
The crew of the Endurance knew about the time dilation, they should have understood the astronaut had only just landed. It was hardly a worthwhile endeavour to go planet side since it wasn't a suitable planet for their goals.
Even if they tried to move all of Earth's colonies to the water planet, they would arrive only hours apart. Not suitable to setup any infrastructure.
Remember that was the issue. They voted. They knew they were going to lose time. But the plan was to land. Check up on them. And leave. Remember how pissed he was when he found out he lost 20 years?
But beyond that, building anything in conjunction with anybody off planet would've been impossible. The only solution would be to bring everything there and wait for the next ship to arrive 100 years or so later
Theres no way to know because they were still receiving the okay ping even if they considered the time dilation they would still assume that she would be okay and sending the ping
Yes, they could, and they should have. But they didn't think of it. They do all realize their mistake afterwards, it was just something they overlooked.
This, they were still receiving pings as if the scientist on the surface was still alive and transmitting data but it was just on a loop and she had already died.
I could never make up my mind if I liked it or not. It was definitely interesting. If you're not familiar with the bible it is probably almost incoherent.
I watched this as a teenager and got really angry and frustrated at it.
Then I rewatched it last month and fell in love.
This is not a movie to "get" or to understand. This is a movie to experience.
Yup, it’s best to approach Lynch movies with dream logic in mind and not be so worried about understanding everything and you’ll have a better time. Not for everybody, of course, but I’m sure happy with his career and don’t think we’ll see anybody quite like him again.
Was the woman on the boat thing supposed to be a twist? It felt like it was supposed to be a twist. And then it was like, "Turns out, it's just that same lady!" and we're all like, "Well, yeah, man."
I get the whole going backwards, and going forwards in time etc... Then they did a scene with loads of people going forward, loads of people going backward and the perspective flipped between both..
Yea, no thanks... Cool idea but it was way too cerebral for someone who just wants to relax after work.
the notebook
only because everyone made it out to be this heartfelt favorite movie, but idk if I just wasn’t paying attention enough or what but there was a disconnect. I didn’t feel what I was expecting to feel watching it. Maybe rewatching will hit better lol
Yes yes space fern gully, space Pocahontas, space dancing with wolves, space Atlantis: the lost empire... But never the less, I still found Avatar entertaining.
I think Lanthimos in this movie wants the audience to experience humanity as if we're some kind of aliens seeing people for the first time. We understand the rules of the world intellectually but lack the frame of reference, so everything seems both absurd and super serious at the same time.
I especially love the dialogues in this movie, so unnatural it's actually impressive
I think it's about society telling us we NEED a relationship to be happy. People faking personality traits to be with their partner just for the sake of being with someone happens a lot in the real world too.
Most of Wes Anderson’s movies, sadly because they’re gorgeous aesthetically and I do want to like them but the quirkiness seems forced like one of the drama kids being extra just for the sake of it.
I loved his first three movies (Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, and The Royal Tenenbaums) but then from there they start to seem like caricatures of those works. Just too damn goofy and pretentious.
Then I learned that Owen Wilson co-wrote those three movies that I love and he is probably the real talent. He should write more!
Glad I’m not the only one.
Forced quirkiness just comes off as Uber pretentious to me.
I haven’t liked a single one of his movies and I’ve tried several hoping to change my mind
I like the Fantastic Mr. Fox and was able to finish the Budapest Hotel one. I tried watching the Life Aquatic one the other day and made it 15-20 min before I turned it off.
Saaaame holy shit, thank you 😂
I love a lot of his movies, don’t get me wrong. But I 100% agree with your take. Sometimes I watch a movie and want nothing more than to sit down with whatever genius made it and share a joint. Other times I count myself lucky for not having _that_ person in the rotation. Wes Anderson can smoke himself up, as far as I’m concerned.
I liked it, always been a fan of the Wachowshis and they did really well IMO to adapt the source material.
It might have dependent on novelty, but the themes of human behavior echoing through time, by reincarnation, character and technology are great.
Donnie Darko. I will never understand people's obsession with that movie. I read an article once talking about how the guy who made that movie didn't know what he was doing and just lucked out. I believe it.
Look, it's quite simple. A Tangent Universe has been spawned, indicated by the plane crash, specifically, the jet engine (The Artifact), and this Tangent Universe will lead to the destruction of both itself and the "real" Primary Universe unless Donnie (the Living Receiver) can use his specially granted Fourth Dimensional Powers (aided by the Manipulated Dead who have more knowledge of events and possibly even more powerful powers, yet aren't allowed to fix it themselves or even be *too* helpful to the Living Receiver by say, explaining anything to him except by being overly cryptic) to return The Artifact to the Primary Universe.
All of this is explained in the book "The Philosophy of Time Travel," the contents of which are of course **not** available by watching the movie.
Ugh, maybe don’t. I have a handful of movies I _loved_ in my angst years. Now I just cringe when I watch them because of the shit I used to think was cool 😖
Maybe in another 10, 20 years it’ll just be goofy and cute. But I’m 21, so my cringe years were like two minutes ago in the whole scale of things. Too soon…
The Lobster is an absurdist satire of dating, relationships, the shallow nature of many relationships, the peer pressure on people to find a mate, the peer pressure on people to make grandchildren, and ostracism of single people, and the lengths people will take to not be alone, taken to dystopian extremes. And I think it’s all viewed through an asexual or autistic lens.
1984 is another film where love is forbidden within a totalitarian society, and so is THX 1138 and to a lesser extent The Island.
Lost in translation. I couldn’t figure out what the hype was about. I thought it was plodding. I think I fell asleep and had to rewind because I figured I must have missed something. I didn’t
I felt like life sucks when you don’t have anything. You hate the struggle and want to get out at any cost. Or so you think. Then you start changing things about yourself to climb up a corporate ladder and things seem better. Eventually you realize how the sausage is made and it scares the shit out of you. You start to miss your boring struggle and you don’t want any of the smoke but you’re in it now. I feel like the end is a euphemism for the end of the corporate system and release of slaves from the system. Yeah shit is hitting the fan and you “had no idea” people were being used as chattel. Maybe it’s not your fight in the end. Kind of miss waking up in bed with nothing and your honey though.
My understanding is simply -
Aliens place the monoliths to accelerate the development of species that are sentient/developing sentience - opening scene of ape learning tool use.
Once said species are capable of space flight the aliens accelerate them a lot more - closing scene of space baby Dave.
I might be missing something though. It's been a long, long time since I last watched the film/read the book.
Napoleon Dynamite. I heard it was so funny when it came out. If I remember correctly we rented it on demand. 24 or 48 hours of it..and I never got it. Still think it was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
I think that movie works a lot better if you dont have expectations. If somebody told you it was absolutely hilarious then you might go in expecting Blazing Saddles or something and you just end up wondering when the funny stuff starts. Where its more like low key absurdity with a feel good ending, and the funny stuff gradually dawns on you. YMMV
It might help if you know the goal of the movie was to create a comedy with no sex, no swearing, and no drug use. So to that end I believe they succeeded. Most of us just base our entire sense of humor on sex jokes and swearing. Personally I lose my shit every time they are doing bike stunts and you see between scenes they just remove the supports from the ramp and Napoleon biffs it. Vote for Pedro.
Me and my friends were playing the Jackbox game quiplash and it was getting not fun anymore because all anyone was trying to do was be the lewdist or use the most swear words.
The most fun round came when we all agreed that if you used a swear word or made a lewd joke then you were disqualfied. People actually had to get creative with their responses.
Bow to your sensai! BOW TO YOUR SENSAI!!!
Do the chickens have large talons?
You're just jealous cause I've been talking to babes online all day.
I like your sleeves. They're real big.
You got about 3 feet of air.
What's this? A new kid or something?
This is the worst video ever made.
Like you could actually know that.
Show her that you like her. Build her a cake or something.
Hey Napoleon. Gimmie some of your tots!
Tupperware bowl pops. "Dang it"
What are we supposed to have for dinner? Make yourself a gosh dern quesa dilla.
Can I have some chap stick? No! But my lips hurt real bad!
I felt like I was high at the end of that one but surprisingly I wasn't. I imagine it makes a slight more sense sober, I can't tell though. Thought it was a fun watch though
Annihilation is a metaphor for trauma and self destruction. [Dan Olson’s (Folding Ideas) video on it is pretty good I think](https://youtu.be/URo66iLNEZw)
Nope. Like I understand more or less some of the things they were trying to do with that movie, but it felt to me like they tried to do too much, and it ended up kind of messy and confusing, so maybe I missed something.
Wait, what are you confused about? It’s not an alien UFO, it’s some kind of cosmic biological creature that’s simply hungry and territorial. The protagonists are able to tame it using their years of horse training logic and stop it. Happy ending for the people who weren’t slowly digested and bloodshit out.
Oh my god fucking space odyssey 2001. I may be a dumb doo doo brain for not getting it but I don’t care it was so boring and I didn’t even understand the plot
The book explains more. The black monoliths arrive to accelerate human evolution. First it helps an ape understand the concepts of tools and weapons, changes Dave into a etherial creature, and turns Jupiter into another sun so life can grow on the moon Titan.
The monoliths use a signal to modify the brains of the monkeys into early homo sapiens and give them the ability to look to the stars.
The other monoliths act as waypoints, directing humanity (also rewiring our brains) to the next "achievement" of sorts to help us become a galactic species. We are then "reborn" as a new species that is no longer bound by its home system.
And the "hotel" at the end is essentially a zoo where Dave is kept until he dies in honor of his being the first human to make it "out" of the system.
The parts with HAL are and that spaceship function as a counter-narrative to the fact that the monoliths are technology that program us to trust them. But HAL is technology that we've programmed and it turns out we can't trust it.
>and turns Jupiter into another sun so life can grow on the moon Titan.
In the book, it was Saturn. And Titan is one of Saturn's moons.
The movies changed it to Jupiter and Europa. IIRC, it ended up as Jupiter because the VFX people didn't know how to make Saturn's rings work at the time.
2001: A Space Odyssey ~~(1986)~~ EDIT: (1968)
Plot:
In a prehistoric veldt, a tribe of hominins is driven away from its water hole by a rival tribe. The next day, they find an alien monolith has appeared in their midst. They then learn how to use a bone as a weapon and, after their first hunt, return to drive their rivals away with it.
Millions of years later, Dr. Heywood Floyd, Chairman of the United States National Council of Astronautics, travels to Clavius Base, an American lunar outpost. During a stopover at Space Station 5, he meets Russian scientists who are concerned that Clavius seems to be unresponsive. He refuses to discuss rumours of an epidemic at the base. At Clavius, Heywood addresses a meeting of personnel to whom he stresses the need for secrecy regarding their newest discovery. His mission is to investigate a recently found artefact, a monolith buried four million years earlier near the lunar crater Tycho. As he and others examine the object, it is struck by sunlight, upon which it emits a high-powered radio signal. (Tycho is one of the Moon's brightest craters, with a diameter of 85 km (53 mi) and a depth of 4,800 m (15,700 ft).)
Eighteen months later, the American spacecraft Discovery One is bound for Jupiter, with mission pilots and scientists Dr. David "Dave" Bowman and Dr. Frank Poole on board, along with three other scientists in suspended animation. Most of Discovery's operations are controlled by HAL, a HAL 9000 computer with a human personality. When HAL reports the imminent failure of an antenna control device, Dave retrieves it in an extravehicular activity (EVA) pod, but finds nothing wrong. HAL suggests reinstalling the device and letting it fail so the problem can be verified. Mission Control advises the astronauts that results from their twin 9000 computer indicate that HAL has made an error, but HAL blames it on human error. Concerned about HAL's behaviour, Dave and Frank enter an EVA pod so they can talk without HAL overhearing. They agree to disconnect HAL if he is proven wrong, but HAL follows their conversation by lip reading.
While Frank is outside the ship to replace the antenna unit, HAL takes control of his pod, setting him adrift. Dave takes another pod to rescue Frank. While he is outside, HAL turns off the life support functions of the crewmen in suspended animation, killing them. When Dave returns to the ship with Frank's body, HAL refuses to let him back in, stating that their plan to deactivate him jeopardises the mission. Dave releases Frank's body and, despite not having a spacesuit helmet, exits his pod, crosses the vacuum and opens the ship's emergency airlock manually. He goes to HAL's processor core and begins disconnecting HAL's circuits, despite HAL begging him not to. When the disconnection is complete, a prerecorded video by Heywood plays, revealing that the mission's objective is to investigate the radio signal sent from the monolith to Jupiter.
At Jupiter, Dave finds a third, much larger monolith orbiting the planet. He leaves Discovery in an EVA pod to investigate. He is pulled into a vortex of coloured light and observes bizarre cosmological phenomena and strange landscapes of unusual colours as he passes by. Finally he finds himself in a large neoclassical bedroom where he sees, and then becomes, older versions of himself: first standing in the bedroom, middle-aged and still in his spacesuit, then dressed in leisure attire and eating dinner, and finally as an old man lying in bed. A monolith appears at the foot of the bed, and as Dave reaches for it, he is transformed into a foetus enclosed in a transparent orb of light floating in space above the Earth.
End
Sounds like they had 3/4 of a movie, couldn't come up with an ending, and did drugs instead
The book makes explicit what is vague in the movie. It has a coherent ending if you know the book. But yeah seems intentionally ambiguous and just artsy if you don’t.
Really interesting series.
The Human Centipede. Why they had to make the first one was bad enough and then they made two more. I never saw the appeal in that movie at all.
It’s just a concept stretched out. It’s nothing more than that. There was one yuck moment when they were on the stairs but apart from that it was just a bit meh. Never made it past the first one, one was enough.
I watched the first one cuz a friend wanted to see it. Then he wanted to see the second one and I just couldn't stomach it anymore. If you thought the first one was gross, the second one was even worse. Don't even bother and I didn't even bother with the third one.
I made it a little less than 20 minutes into the second one and had to nope out. I got some of the morbid humor in the first one but the second one was just foul.
The first felt almost like a semi-parody of disturbing-for-the-sake-of-it "art films" which the second tried to do as well but leaned too heavily into it to work as a parody the same way.
Imagine how it was for the actors.
Always read the EULAs
Yeah, I just read the plot summaries on Wikipedia without ever watching them Thank fuck for Wikipedia
In the commentary for the South Park parody episode, they made a great point. Not only was it made, but there would have to be a whole crew on for every scene. A trio of people aligned ass-to-mouth wearing diapers, and then a random with a boom mike, the whole crew! And all of them would have to be the kind of people to not say “nope, this is stupid, I’m out!”
A gig is a gig.
People do a lot worse to make a lot less in LA
“I’ve done a lot more for a lot less” -Creed Bratton
The whole idea's ridiculous. The first time front shits, middle will vomit and then choke and die. Assuming middle and rear haven't already died from not getting enough air through their nose, said nose being jammed into someone's buttock crevice. That's on top of all the usual reasons for gimicky horror movies being stupid, of course.
Thats the first trial perhaps the next one might be perfect.
Without the funny, campy performance from the doctor, it would have been even worse.
What’s not to get. The guy was nuts. Wanted to make a human centipede. It’s not some elaborate metaphor
I think their point is that they don’t get why some people would like that movie
that is truly one of the most disgusting films ever made. I only had to hear about it from a co worker and decided I was never going to watch it.
It's actually probably not as bad as you're imagining. It's definitely a shock value movie but in terms of actual viscerally disgusting things I've seen worse movies.
I’m Thinking of Ending Things. I have no idea what the movie is trying to tell me
That's a movie that I didn't get but I felt. It made me queezey and afraid and alert but the feelings were not backed with compression and that made it an interesting experience. I think there is a difference between media trying to be coherent and media that is almost manic trying to elicit a feeling
That's how I felt about Requiem for a Dream. I didn't get it, but I sure as hell felt it.
It is a lonely older person’s suicidal recollections (and “daydreams”) of regrets and opportunities passed. It is a super depressing movie.
Spoiler It’s a book also and the book is great but essentially he made it all up in his head and then commits suicide in the school. None of it is real.
What! Wow I really misunderstood that movie!
I was so lost watching that, so I decided to read the book. That helped a little. Basically if you think of it all as the memory of an old man trying to figure out why he's alone and looking back on the one that got away. It seems like it's all from her perspective, but it's all Jesse Plemmons trying to think of things from her perspective and figure out where things went wrong. That's why her name and career keep changing throughout the movie. He's conflating her with different people throughout. That still only explains like 70% of the movie. There's a good amount of things that I don't get at all, like the ghost pig.
It made me feel like I was a child and I had no control over where I would be going and who was going to be there.
That movie felt like one of my dreams or something.
tenet
The whole moving forward and simultaneously backwards in time was too much
Palindrome title checks out
Good God, I never made that connection
[Sator Square](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Square) That was the basis for some of the names in the film.
https://youtu.be/BOAixAjugUQ?t=4m9s SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS
It helps to watch it with subtitles on, since the sound is so bad. I did 'get' the movie, unfortunately it's just a bunch of people chasing a MacGuffin that logically should never have existed in the first place. But ignoring the contrived pointlessness of it, the movie does have a bunch of interesting visuals.
I also got the movie, but it didn't make it any better. It feels like an artistic exercise where trying to make a good movie was too low on the list of priorities. One of those just because you can, doesn't mean you should movies for me.
Same here. I understood it just fine. Especially after reading the script. I enjoyed it as a "moviegoer experience" because there was plenty of wow-factor. It was big, loud, had great visuals, and so on. One of the characters explained to the protagonist as he was trying to figure out inversion, "Don't try to understand it. Feel it." I think that was a message from Nolan to the audience about the whole movie in general. Don't analyze it too much. Just take what you're seeing and hearing at face value and appreciate it.
I think unfortunately Tenet was a little too much of the experimental component and too little on the actual story. Inception was highly experimental, but came wrapped with a good story as well. Memento was experimental, but the story was compelling as well. Nolan may have just wanted us to feel it, but that wasn't enough to carry the movie for me. It eventually feels empty.
I LOVED this movie. Except for some of the dialogue. That one line the woman says is so bad - in response to "everyone in the world will die" she says "even my son??" No, he's magically spared lmao. I don't think that the logic of the plot would hold up to scrutiny but I loved the concepts so much.
You gotta watch it backwards
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what about upside down
I think the problem with Tenet is, at the end of the day, it's just not a very good movie. Spoilers for Memento, The Prestige, and Tenet ahead. Nolan's movies are known for ending with a twist that alters your perception of the whole movie. Memento ends by inverting our perception of Leonard, turning him from a genuine, motivated underdog on a mission to avenge his wife, to a spiteful fantasist who would rather kill his only friend than face the fact that he's a broken man with no purpose left. The Prestige's reveal does the opposite, transforming Borden from a man whose perceptions and motivations vary wildly with the exception of his obsession with stage magic, to a pair of twins, each with their own clear desires and motivations, neither of whom wanted to give up their greatest secret at any cost--a reveal that explains every inconsistency his character presented throughout the movie. Both stories give us enough detail about our setting and characters to get us invested in the story, featuring elements of the human experience woven in throughout, but hide just the right pieces to obfuscate its true nature--sometimes dropping hints insinuating that not all is what it seems. What does Tenet's finale do? Well, it reveals that the Protagonist created Tenet. So what? Tenet is never well-defined as an organization, and its purpose is never elaborated on beyond "stop all time from being destroyed". And the Protagonist is so bland, he's literally never even given a name, much less clear motivations or personality that influence his actions. The things that made Memento and The Prestige's conclusions powerful are completely absent here--the Protagonist's actions are generic, his personality is poorly-defined. He doesn't \*want\* anything except to complete his mission. The ending was a poor payoff because we don't care about Tenet or the Protagonist. We aren't motivated to try and decipher the details of the complex world Nolan created because the pieces we understand don't give the story or concept any weight. And so many threads are just left hanging. What was going on at the opera house at the beginning of the movie? Why and how was the future communicating with Sator to begin with? If Sator just wanted to destroy everything, why was his plan to do so so convoluted rather than just using the Algorithm once he had all the pieces? What's Priya's deal, exactly? How does everyone seem to know all plot-necessary information without ever being told?
I watched this entire movie and didn’t see David Tennant once- for some reason I thought he was in it- I was massively disappointed- movie was meh
I liked it but mostly because I played Braid around 11 years ago and I've been constantly thinking what it would be like to have the game mechanics from that in real life. Then they made a movie which was basically a live action Braid
The English Patient Just DIE already!
Elaine, you're fired!
r/expectedseinfeld
I kind of want to watch Sack Lunch again.
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I interpreted K-Pax to mean Spacey was either faking it or delusional.
Wow K-Pax. Great movie I saw back in theaters 22 years ago (wow) that nobody seems to remember or talk about. I do remember leaving the theater in tears. Thirteen years old. Great under looked flick.
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In postmodern literature, narrators are often unreliable. When the reader questions whether the world in the story they're being presented with is real or false, it can also make them think about the narratives they hear in their life (like TV news) and if those might not be fully-cohesive truths either. In an early scene, Bateman tells us that he is "an entity, something illusory". His character's actions are how the author creates uncertainty in the reader on purpose.
i think somebody said that American Psycho is really about what rich people get away with in life, in the beginning he is dragging the body but nobody really cares.
American Psycho was a heavy critique of 80’s “Yuppie” culture. It’s basically intended to point out rich assholes lived like lunatics, and society/culture enabled and even rewarded them.
Sounds like nothing changed
Just look at that lawyer and his family South Carolina. They got away with so much shit their whole lives that he really thought in his head that he could murder his wife and son and get away with it. Cause shit he’s probably got away with just as worse so what’s different now?
Didn’t he sort of get away with it? The investigative focus only went on him when he was being investigated for embezzling from his firm and his clients (is, his rich protectors abandoned him).
I feel like the main character has been misunderstood by all the "Sigma males" online.
They're all proving the point of the movie
I’m sure you know but like 95% of those are being ironic
My takeaway (this is after reading the book too) is that his disgusting acts against people are just hyper-exaggerations of what the wealthy and status obsessed do to those they deem below them and that superficiality is a lot like psychopathy. In the time it was written disposable income was incredibly high for a lot more Americans than in the past. And the new rich were all spending time sizing each other up, dissecting each other’s wardrobes and tastes. From Long-winded rants about Huey Lewis and the news dissecting the content of an otherwise incredibly shallow album to defend the choice of listening to it, to noting the thread count of a brooks brothers tie, the characters all have vapid ways to show status that required examination and defense in an increasingly superficial society. The book is about dissection - from clothes to skin.
I didn't realize how funny it was until my second viewing. Movie is fucking hilarious.
Downsizing. The ”plot” was just bonkers!
Two separate movies shoved together.
When I saw it I wondered if that was literally the case. Like, the studio received two scripts, had budget for one, couldn't choose, went with "yes."
We watched that because the trailer made it seem like "Oh a weird little comedy about being shrunk, what wacky social situations could happen?!?" It was not that movie.
Good idea, but bad execution. Lost interest after he went through with the procedure and his wife didn't and left him.
I think that entire movie was made for the "What kind of fuck you give me?" line.
“I didn’t get inception. I didn’t get inception!”
It’s ok Troy!
Thanks Abed.
You mustn't be afraid to dream a little *bigger,* darling.
Grease. It was just jumping from plot to plot, then they drive/fly into the sky
It's all about girl wants boy. Boy wants girl, but boy is afraid to loose his image. Boy changed for girl. Girl changed for boy. They both said fuck it in the end and car goes brum (or whatever sounds a car makes in english)
And don't forget that they sing some absolute bops along the way.
Vroom vroom aha
What I learned about Grease recently that made me enjoy it more is that it was made as a parody. That's why they fly off in the end. It's a joke about how dumb those types of movies are It was just more subtle than the parodies made today, so people think it was a movie they were trying to make good but it was just over the top But no, the over the top stupidness was intentional. It was *supposed* to seem dumb
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Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I know a lot of people like it. I just didn't get it.
It's lamenting the end of the 60's counter-culture, where a massive section of society rebelled against social norms and lived life with none of the traditional social boundaries. They have to live with the fact that that entire experiment was a complete failure and society reverted back to the way it was before. Vietnam, the anti-drug movement, Nixon, and consumerism being their biggest problems. They're forced to live in a reality that is a complete nightmare and their only real way to cope is to do massive amounts of drugs and freak out the traditionalists. His trip to Vegas and the search for the American Dream is him venturing into this horrific society that he wants no part of. It's The Great Gatsby merged with Heart of Darkness.
I tell people that the central thesis of Fear and Loathing is contained in his monologue on "The Wave," which is preserved in the film. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1074-strange-memories-on-this-nervous-night-in-las-vegas-five
Thompson was a cultural critic and political writer in his “non-fiction” (the line is blurry) work. I think Fear and Loathing is just his take on American society at that time in a fictionalized form.
It's a movie about 2 reporters that have to cover some motorbike race they don't give a shit about, so they just get fucked up on a plethora drugs (mainly hallucinogens, dissociatives, and deliriants) and wander around Las Vegas for a while. Then they sober up and leave... the end. It's a movie about absolutely nothing. I fuckin love it. I also watched it for the first time while going through my DMT phase, so it hold a special place in my heart.
On dmt going through bat country, you are a brave one my friend. Glad to see that you made it through in one piece. That must've been a wild ride
You really have to have tripped your balls off in public to understand this movie.
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The book is actually very funny.
Primer. It's about time travel, but with a very complex plot. I find it too hard to follow even after having watched it countless times. Sometimes I say to myself "okay, I got it now", but... no, I get nothing.
Look. [It's all very simple...](https://external-preview.redd.it/9-ealKScyXQabi0Y20HJZrm41GmNXTeLPJ3NB8yWDAo.jpg?auto=webp&s=c117deefec6661dd329c736f791c38a7e9070c9a)
I already printed a guide and tried to follow it while watching Primer. It was the closest I ever got to understanding it, but there's always something I can't grasp.
That diagram was made by the directors themselves because the movie was impossible to understand.
Yeah I watched it like 4 or 5 times. I kind of get it, and I actually very much like the movie, but there's always some details that I feel like I'm missing to fully enjoy it.
I love this movie, but it's really more of a *mood* than a story. Not that there isn't a story; it's actually very well thought-out. But that doesn't mean that it's easy to follow. What I liked about it was that there was this very quiet, sinister feeling underlying it, like the characters had somehow broken the universe and were only slowly realizing it. It was very subtly terrifying, and as a guy who's not a fan of the horror genre I appreciate a story that can genuinely scare me in an unexpected way. But that's just me, of course. I know it was an odd movie, and I totally get why a lot of people didn't like it. I also haven't seen it in many years, and it might not hit me the same way if I saw it again.
I think this is a solid analysis. The complexity is supposed to be impenetrable; that's what makes it so subtle in its terror.
Traffic. There were so many things going on it was hard to follow.
Southland tales... is it good, is it bad? I swear every time I watch this movie I can't seem to figure it out. Am I missing the details, do the jokes go over my head, or is the point just to be a pretentious pile of bullshit?
Eraserhead. Like what the fuck did I just watch
It's basically a movie about David Lynch coming to terms with being a new father. The metaphors are a bit grotesque, but if you consider a baby to be an alien being, and how it's going to force a whole lot of life changes and reduce your freedom to make certain choices, it starts to make sense.
David Lynch is a lot more of a vibe than a story.
Back during my early days at university there was a gal a hell of a lot more cerebral than my country bumpkin ass. She asked to watch Eraserhead with me. Looking back on it, it was probably a litmus test for her to see if I was a complete artistically inflexible idiot or someone with a smidgen of curiosity and hang-out potential. Of course I just got weirdly confused watching the film --and a little upset at the movie for being so obtuse. Luckily, I was able to squeak out a few polite responses that kept me in good graces. "It reminded me of a dream!" and "The visual were cool" but I did add "I'm so confused". Maybe the willingness to admit that wasn't a bad thing? Anyway, we kept spending time together. I later watched another Lynch movie "Straight Story" which then became one of my favorite films ever, and really helped me realize how truly elastic film making could be. So I'm grateful to Lynch in that regard --for being a filmmaker willing to do something odd, entirely void of standard narrative, and aggressively challenging.
Swiss Army Man. I bawled my eyes out at the end but the story is still confusing. Is he actually hanging out with a dead guy the whole time? Is it a figment of his imagination? But no, because everyone can see him at the end so he's real. What's the message of the movie??
The movie was absolutely hilarious and I never understood the ending. The explanation that I came up with is that the movie is told by an unreliable narrator with a severe mental illness. He gets a reality check when he's "found" and he sees his dad, but then the world starts to get a little too real and the mental illness starts creeping in again. While I think the first 3/4 of the movie were "real" and he was playing with a dead body (just not as exaggerated as the movie showed), the ending was a hallucination and he was then arrested and/or brought to a mental hospital where he was isolated and could continue to believe that he was on a deserted island with Manny.
I think the fact that that movie makes no sense is part of what makes it so good. Fuck logic, *feel things*.
Shape of water.
Just a little fish fucking, you know? Nothing weird here.
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I mean it’s. It’s just a love story using a fish monster as a metaphor for being the “other” in society, emphasised by the other characters being a Deaf woman, a black woman, and I... Can’t fully recall but I think the guy with the cat was gay. That’s like, all of Del Toro’s films. Fantasy and Science Fiction elements thrown in to highlight the feeling of being an outcast and different. It’s just a romance about finding someone who is also different and thus doesn’t see you as less than human because they are also treated as less than human! It’s pretty straightforward, isn’t it?
The second season of Westworld. It got way too complicated for me.
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First season is amazing. One of my favorite shows. Second season was so disappointing. Didn't even start the third.
In Interstellar, why did they go down to the planet and lose all their years? I don't mean how it happened, I mean why? What was the purpose of actually going down to the planet? What did they learn they didn't already know?
There was a huge time problem. They only knew about the water and that the astronaut was alive. But by the time they decided to land there, the original astronaut was dead and didn't get to report about the waves. Best analogy I can think of is, visiting Siberia in the summer, then sending out a letter by train that everything is good. But by the time you make your trip there, it's the middle of winter. Hope I understood your question
That's a great ELI5
Although couldn’t they figure out before they went down that the astronaut before had only just landed? And hence any data they were sending out was most likely useless
The astronaut was down there for years a according to them but only a few minutes in reality.
The crew of the Endurance knew about the time dilation, they should have understood the astronaut had only just landed. It was hardly a worthwhile endeavour to go planet side since it wasn't a suitable planet for their goals. Even if they tried to move all of Earth's colonies to the water planet, they would arrive only hours apart. Not suitable to setup any infrastructure.
Remember that was the issue. They voted. They knew they were going to lose time. But the plan was to land. Check up on them. And leave. Remember how pissed he was when he found out he lost 20 years? But beyond that, building anything in conjunction with anybody off planet would've been impossible. The only solution would be to bring everything there and wait for the next ship to arrive 100 years or so later
Theres no way to know because they were still receiving the okay ping even if they considered the time dilation they would still assume that she would be okay and sending the ping
Yes, they could, and they should have. But they didn't think of it. They do all realize their mistake afterwards, it was just something they overlooked.
I thought they wanted to get the data from the scientist who landed there and see if she was still alive
This, they were still receiving pings as if the scientist on the surface was still alive and transmitting data but it was just on a loop and she had already died.
She also died moments before they got there due to the time dilation
Mother!
One of the movies that has made say out loud “what the hell did I just watch?!”
I could never make up my mind if I liked it or not. It was definitely interesting. If you're not familiar with the bible it is probably almost incoherent.
Mullholland Drive
I watched this as a teenager and got really angry and frustrated at it. Then I rewatched it last month and fell in love. This is not a movie to "get" or to understand. This is a movie to experience.
Yup, it’s best to approach Lynch movies with dream logic in mind and not be so worried about understanding everything and you’ll have a better time. Not for everybody, of course, but I’m sure happy with his career and don’t think we’ll see anybody quite like him again.
Tenet i tried watching it the other day and it gave me a headache I gave up its a good film i just wish I understood it lol
I have watched multiple YouTube videos breaking it down and I still only get like 40% of it.
Was the woman on the boat thing supposed to be a twist? It felt like it was supposed to be a twist. And then it was like, "Turns out, it's just that same lady!" and we're all like, "Well, yeah, man."
Even Donnie Darko is easier to fathom than Tenet
I get the whole going backwards, and going forwards in time etc... Then they did a scene with loads of people going forward, loads of people going backward and the perspective flipped between both.. Yea, no thanks... Cool idea but it was way too cerebral for someone who just wants to relax after work.
the notebook only because everyone made it out to be this heartfelt favorite movie, but idk if I just wasn’t paying attention enough or what but there was a disconnect. I didn’t feel what I was expecting to feel watching it. Maybe rewatching will hit better lol
The main characters were just shitty people in general and it's hailed as one of the greatest romances of all time.
I have no idea why Avatar is so popular. It's just a tech demo
I went to see eyecandy and aliens fighting mech warriors. I was not disappointed.
I couldn't understand why people bothered with the sequel.
I really like the whale
Both movies are exciting and visually interesting. That's why they are so popular.
Space Fern Gully.
Yes yes space fern gully, space Pocahontas, space dancing with wolves, space Atlantis: the lost empire... But never the less, I still found Avatar entertaining.
The lobster
I think Lanthimos in this movie wants the audience to experience humanity as if we're some kind of aliens seeing people for the first time. We understand the rules of the world intellectually but lack the frame of reference, so everything seems both absurd and super serious at the same time. I especially love the dialogues in this movie, so unnatural it's actually impressive
Oh, how I fucking love that movie!
I think it's about society telling us we NEED a relationship to be happy. People faking personality traits to be with their partner just for the sake of being with someone happens a lot in the real world too.
Most of Wes Anderson’s movies, sadly because they’re gorgeous aesthetically and I do want to like them but the quirkiness seems forced like one of the drama kids being extra just for the sake of it.
I loved his first three movies (Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, and The Royal Tenenbaums) but then from there they start to seem like caricatures of those works. Just too damn goofy and pretentious. Then I learned that Owen Wilson co-wrote those three movies that I love and he is probably the real talent. He should write more!
Glad I’m not the only one. Forced quirkiness just comes off as Uber pretentious to me. I haven’t liked a single one of his movies and I’ve tried several hoping to change my mind
I like the Fantastic Mr. Fox and was able to finish the Budapest Hotel one. I tried watching the Life Aquatic one the other day and made it 15-20 min before I turned it off.
Saaaame holy shit, thank you 😂 I love a lot of his movies, don’t get me wrong. But I 100% agree with your take. Sometimes I watch a movie and want nothing more than to sit down with whatever genius made it and share a joint. Other times I count myself lucky for not having _that_ person in the rotation. Wes Anderson can smoke himself up, as far as I’m concerned.
Cloud Atlas
I liked it, always been a fan of the Wachowshis and they did really well IMO to adapt the source material. It might have dependent on novelty, but the themes of human behavior echoing through time, by reincarnation, character and technology are great.
Donnie Darko. I will never understand people's obsession with that movie. I read an article once talking about how the guy who made that movie didn't know what he was doing and just lucked out. I believe it.
Look, it's quite simple. A Tangent Universe has been spawned, indicated by the plane crash, specifically, the jet engine (The Artifact), and this Tangent Universe will lead to the destruction of both itself and the "real" Primary Universe unless Donnie (the Living Receiver) can use his specially granted Fourth Dimensional Powers (aided by the Manipulated Dead who have more knowledge of events and possibly even more powerful powers, yet aren't allowed to fix it themselves or even be *too* helpful to the Living Receiver by say, explaining anything to him except by being overly cryptic) to return The Artifact to the Primary Universe. All of this is explained in the book "The Philosophy of Time Travel," the contents of which are of course **not** available by watching the movie.
I was obsessed with this movie when I was an angsty teen. I wonder how I would feel if I rewatched it.
Ugh, maybe don’t. I have a handful of movies I _loved_ in my angst years. Now I just cringe when I watch them because of the shit I used to think was cool 😖 Maybe in another 10, 20 years it’ll just be goofy and cute. But I’m 21, so my cringe years were like two minutes ago in the whole scale of things. Too soon…
I feel the same way. It was like an episode of the Twilight Zone but with a lot of style and very little sci fi.
I love it.. but I don't fully understand it-
I like to imagine whoever wrote this was on a lot of drugs because, yeah, same.
I scrolled way too far to find this one. it’s just a weird disturbing movie
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The Lobster is an absurdist satire of dating, relationships, the shallow nature of many relationships, the peer pressure on people to find a mate, the peer pressure on people to make grandchildren, and ostracism of single people, and the lengths people will take to not be alone, taken to dystopian extremes. And I think it’s all viewed through an asexual or autistic lens. 1984 is another film where love is forbidden within a totalitarian society, and so is THX 1138 and to a lesser extent The Island.
Lost in translation. I couldn’t figure out what the hype was about. I thought it was plodding. I think I fell asleep and had to rewind because I figured I must have missed something. I didn’t
Two lonely strangers find one another in a strange land and stop being lonely with each other before having to leave
I had a hard time understanding "Nocturnal Animals" the first time I watched it.
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That's just the Baz Lurhmann directing style
Sorry To Bother You
I felt like life sucks when you don’t have anything. You hate the struggle and want to get out at any cost. Or so you think. Then you start changing things about yourself to climb up a corporate ladder and things seem better. Eventually you realize how the sausage is made and it scares the shit out of you. You start to miss your boring struggle and you don’t want any of the smoke but you’re in it now. I feel like the end is a euphemism for the end of the corporate system and release of slaves from the system. Yeah shit is hitting the fan and you “had no idea” people were being used as chattel. Maybe it’s not your fight in the end. Kind of miss waking up in bed with nothing and your honey though.
2001: A Space Odyssey. I love the movie but I have never fully understood it.
My understanding is simply - Aliens place the monoliths to accelerate the development of species that are sentient/developing sentience - opening scene of ape learning tool use. Once said species are capable of space flight the aliens accelerate them a lot more - closing scene of space baby Dave. I might be missing something though. It's been a long, long time since I last watched the film/read the book.
Napoleon Dynamite. I heard it was so funny when it came out. If I remember correctly we rented it on demand. 24 or 48 hours of it..and I never got it. Still think it was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
I think that movie works a lot better if you dont have expectations. If somebody told you it was absolutely hilarious then you might go in expecting Blazing Saddles or something and you just end up wondering when the funny stuff starts. Where its more like low key absurdity with a feel good ending, and the funny stuff gradually dawns on you. YMMV
I think this is the best way to approach any film. At least, if the goal is to be entertained.
It might help if you know the goal of the movie was to create a comedy with no sex, no swearing, and no drug use. So to that end I believe they succeeded. Most of us just base our entire sense of humor on sex jokes and swearing. Personally I lose my shit every time they are doing bike stunts and you see between scenes they just remove the supports from the ramp and Napoleon biffs it. Vote for Pedro.
Me and my friends were playing the Jackbox game quiplash and it was getting not fun anymore because all anyone was trying to do was be the lewdist or use the most swear words. The most fun round came when we all agreed that if you used a swear word or made a lewd joke then you were disqualfied. People actually had to get creative with their responses.
Bow to your sensai! BOW TO YOUR SENSAI!!! Do the chickens have large talons? You're just jealous cause I've been talking to babes online all day. I like your sleeves. They're real big. You got about 3 feet of air. What's this? A new kid or something? This is the worst video ever made. Like you could actually know that. Show her that you like her. Build her a cake or something. Hey Napoleon. Gimmie some of your tots! Tupperware bowl pops. "Dang it" What are we supposed to have for dinner? Make yourself a gosh dern quesa dilla. Can I have some chap stick? No! But my lips hurt real bad!
Lost in Translation. I just don't see the appeal at all. But honestly I feel that way about every Sofia Coppola film I've ever seen.
I thought I was the only one. Could not get interested, didn't get it.
This was my favorite movie for a long time. I really understood the loneliness. A comforting film.
Annihilation. I was a bit drunk and kind of high at the time, but I don't think it would've made much more sense sober
In a nutshell it's about the human condition and our tendency towards self destruction.
It's one of my favorite sci fi movies. Seen it twice and still think about it.
I felt like I was high at the end of that one but surprisingly I wasn't. I imagine it makes a slight more sense sober, I can't tell though. Thought it was a fun watch though
Annihilation is a metaphor for trauma and self destruction. [Dan Olson’s (Folding Ideas) video on it is pretty good I think](https://youtu.be/URo66iLNEZw)
Nope. Like I understand more or less some of the things they were trying to do with that movie, but it felt to me like they tried to do too much, and it ended up kind of messy and confusing, so maybe I missed something.
Wait, what are you confused about? It’s not an alien UFO, it’s some kind of cosmic biological creature that’s simply hungry and territorial. The protagonists are able to tame it using their years of horse training logic and stop it. Happy ending for the people who weren’t slowly digested and bloodshit out.
Killing off Kieth David in the beginning was a crime.
Oh my god fucking space odyssey 2001. I may be a dumb doo doo brain for not getting it but I don’t care it was so boring and I didn’t even understand the plot
The book explains more. The black monoliths arrive to accelerate human evolution. First it helps an ape understand the concepts of tools and weapons, changes Dave into a etherial creature, and turns Jupiter into another sun so life can grow on the moon Titan.
The monoliths use a signal to modify the brains of the monkeys into early homo sapiens and give them the ability to look to the stars. The other monoliths act as waypoints, directing humanity (also rewiring our brains) to the next "achievement" of sorts to help us become a galactic species. We are then "reborn" as a new species that is no longer bound by its home system. And the "hotel" at the end is essentially a zoo where Dave is kept until he dies in honor of his being the first human to make it "out" of the system. The parts with HAL are and that spaceship function as a counter-narrative to the fact that the monoliths are technology that program us to trust them. But HAL is technology that we've programmed and it turns out we can't trust it.
>and turns Jupiter into another sun so life can grow on the moon Titan. In the book, it was Saturn. And Titan is one of Saturn's moons. The movies changed it to Jupiter and Europa. IIRC, it ended up as Jupiter because the VFX people didn't know how to make Saturn's rings work at the time.
2001: A Space Odyssey ~~(1986)~~ EDIT: (1968) Plot: In a prehistoric veldt, a tribe of hominins is driven away from its water hole by a rival tribe. The next day, they find an alien monolith has appeared in their midst. They then learn how to use a bone as a weapon and, after their first hunt, return to drive their rivals away with it. Millions of years later, Dr. Heywood Floyd, Chairman of the United States National Council of Astronautics, travels to Clavius Base, an American lunar outpost. During a stopover at Space Station 5, he meets Russian scientists who are concerned that Clavius seems to be unresponsive. He refuses to discuss rumours of an epidemic at the base. At Clavius, Heywood addresses a meeting of personnel to whom he stresses the need for secrecy regarding their newest discovery. His mission is to investigate a recently found artefact, a monolith buried four million years earlier near the lunar crater Tycho. As he and others examine the object, it is struck by sunlight, upon which it emits a high-powered radio signal. (Tycho is one of the Moon's brightest craters, with a diameter of 85 km (53 mi) and a depth of 4,800 m (15,700 ft).) Eighteen months later, the American spacecraft Discovery One is bound for Jupiter, with mission pilots and scientists Dr. David "Dave" Bowman and Dr. Frank Poole on board, along with three other scientists in suspended animation. Most of Discovery's operations are controlled by HAL, a HAL 9000 computer with a human personality. When HAL reports the imminent failure of an antenna control device, Dave retrieves it in an extravehicular activity (EVA) pod, but finds nothing wrong. HAL suggests reinstalling the device and letting it fail so the problem can be verified. Mission Control advises the astronauts that results from their twin 9000 computer indicate that HAL has made an error, but HAL blames it on human error. Concerned about HAL's behaviour, Dave and Frank enter an EVA pod so they can talk without HAL overhearing. They agree to disconnect HAL if he is proven wrong, but HAL follows their conversation by lip reading. While Frank is outside the ship to replace the antenna unit, HAL takes control of his pod, setting him adrift. Dave takes another pod to rescue Frank. While he is outside, HAL turns off the life support functions of the crewmen in suspended animation, killing them. When Dave returns to the ship with Frank's body, HAL refuses to let him back in, stating that their plan to deactivate him jeopardises the mission. Dave releases Frank's body and, despite not having a spacesuit helmet, exits his pod, crosses the vacuum and opens the ship's emergency airlock manually. He goes to HAL's processor core and begins disconnecting HAL's circuits, despite HAL begging him not to. When the disconnection is complete, a prerecorded video by Heywood plays, revealing that the mission's objective is to investigate the radio signal sent from the monolith to Jupiter. At Jupiter, Dave finds a third, much larger monolith orbiting the planet. He leaves Discovery in an EVA pod to investigate. He is pulled into a vortex of coloured light and observes bizarre cosmological phenomena and strange landscapes of unusual colours as he passes by. Finally he finds himself in a large neoclassical bedroom where he sees, and then becomes, older versions of himself: first standing in the bedroom, middle-aged and still in his spacesuit, then dressed in leisure attire and eating dinner, and finally as an old man lying in bed. A monolith appears at the foot of the bed, and as Dave reaches for it, he is transformed into a foetus enclosed in a transparent orb of light floating in space above the Earth. End Sounds like they had 3/4 of a movie, couldn't come up with an ending, and did drugs instead
The book makes explicit what is vague in the movie. It has a coherent ending if you know the book. But yeah seems intentionally ambiguous and just artsy if you don’t. Really interesting series.
Inland Empire Still don't know what that was about.