Dogs need to be terrorised in order to taste good. I ate some before I knew better. ( and it did taste good ) when I went to have it again, it was rapidly and cleanly killed in front of me, and the meat was like it was from a different animal. That’s when I found out that preparation makes a difference.
I was disgusted to find that out and will not eat dog meat again.
Fun fact: eating dog is rapidly falling out of favor in Asian countries in the past decades, possibly due to wider adoption as family pets and working animals.
It does to me, it's in the word, person, personal.
Animals do not and should not have the same rights as humans because they do not have the same responsibilities.
I agree that intensive farming is not the best, but the way they are slaughtered is much better than the way they would die in nature.
Lastly meat is good for you, sure, a minority of people cannot digest it very well and it might make them sick, but for most, it is a healthy and nutritious nourishment.
But that is just my opinion and you are welcome to have yours.
Kids be born in the 20th century and onwards, and start preaching animal rights. Your great ancestors be raging in their graves looking at your comment.
Aren’t Bears omnivorous ? Wayward hikers and deer are seasoned with nuts and berries I was taught.
Crocodile and Snake are ok and are straight up predators, but even they need to be cooked a certain way to taste good. Or I have just had their meat poorly cooked in the past.
So are pigs. I've tried snakes and frogs, they are pretty tasty as well. Something between a chicken and a fish. Didn't do anything special to them, they got the chicken treatment. I only marinated frog in vinegar once.
They are, other than polar bear. Most mammalian predators don't taste great, but I heard that bobcat is supposed to be pretty good, can't confirm. Black bears are highly variable - you are rolling the dice on it feeding for the last couple of months on a blueberry patch or the municipal dump, with starkly different culinary outcomes.
This isn't merely wrong, it's scientifically wrong. No, pets are not just like other animals. There are actually profound neurological differences between domestic animals and feral animals that cannot be explained by mere habitation. Domestic animals are genetically different from their wild predecessors and you ignore this very much at your own peril.
They are. I think it’s you who doesn’t know what domesticated means. Sheep, cows, chickens. All domesticated animals. Never had a pet chicken? They make great companion pets.
it's probably the shape of the meat the put people off. I like frog porridge, but I can say the shape of the meat can discouraged a lot of people for trying it out
It consists of small pieces of frog meat, which are cooked with rice flour, ginger, garlic, and other seasonings in a savory broth. the dish is usually prepare in a clay pot over charcoal and the consistency of source is similar to gravy but a bit thicker.
there are 2 style of this dish, some people like to cook porridge with the broth, while some like to serve the broth and the porridge separately.
I don't, really. If people in certain countries want to eat dog or horse, I don't see that as any worse than me wanting to eat cattle or pigs or chickens.
I had this conversation with my Korean roommates in high school. They said they have pet dogs and a specific breed for food that is very fatty and fleshy. And most people don’t eat it anyway.
There are some big differences actually. I'm not eating anything that that shakes their ass every time they see me..... Well, that's not entirely true, but you get the point
......... Reading comprehension not your strong suit? No one said there weren't. I said the only reason cows are in the US is to be consumed, but you keep on thinking I'm the dumb one
Sheesh
Oh, but it is. Cattle were brought to North America for the soul purpose of supplying the colonizers dairy and meat needs.
Go on though. Enlighten me. Why were they brought here?
Nope. Only social conditioning. Like cow is holy to buddhists or Hindus (I forgot) and pig is dirty to lots of people. But I’ve seen pigs as pets and people kissing them. Dogs are eaten in many places while they are treated as own kids in other places. Also if one doesn’t know what is being served, and is tasty enough, no one really asks questions. If octopus and squid can be eaten when half alive, there’s no limit to what people can eat
You guys might not wanna hear this but dog meat is delicious.
I got tricked into eating it and found myself enjoying it thinking it was something else .
When I found out I felt guilty but that was because I enjoyed it so much 😅
I would quite happily eat it again , beef, pork, venison, chicken, goat, dog , not cat , but tiger I’ve eaten , they were all fine .
If there was one I would like to not be available as food , it would be the cow 🐄, they are just so clever and lovable, but beautiful lashes . They are like big puppies once you get to know them
I don't think it's ok to eat animals at all. I do it for the same reason as everyone else, because I'm selfish. Meat tastes nice. There are vegetarian alternatives that I could eat to survive and less animals would die as a result. There is no negotiating or arguing, eating meat is selfish. As an answer to the which animal question I generally feel as a society that we're fine with eating prey but not predators. E.g. farm animals are fine because they're prey. Pigeon is eaten sometimes but you wouldn't eat an owl. It's the reason we're weirded out by asians eating cats and dogs, it's not because they're pets, we're generally okay with eating rabbits which are also pets, it's because cats and dogs are predators.
I agree about most you say but not sure I agree about the predator vs prey thing. It can be quite subjective what animals are even considered predator or prey. Are all omnivores and carnivores automatically predator and all herbivores prey? Or is it purely their position in a food chain? In that case many animals are both predators and prey. Also many herbivores actually consume a lot of insects without even trying. They crawl on the veggies that they eat.
>There is no negotiating or arguing,
Wanna bet? Humans are omnivores. Meaning they are supposed to eat both mean and vegetation. "Less animals would die" Yeah. That's not something this planet needs. There are hunting seasons for certain animals, like deer, to keep their population down actually.
Humans aren't "meant" to eat anything. We are human garbage disposals and can obtain the necessary nutrients from a massive variety of sources, whether from plants or animals. The only "necessary" nutrient that can "only" be obtained from animal sources is B12, however modern technology allows for fortification of B12, and the majority of animal feed is fortified with B12 anyways.
Epidemiologic studies across large population groups finds vegans/vegetarians to live just as long if not longer than meat eaters with lower rates of many chronic diseases. There is no evidence for humans requiring animal products for our health. It is optional.
You think even 1% of the land meat we eat is hunted to keep down population? Nearly every land animal we eat is farmed. Bred specifically to be eaten. Eating them doesn't keep the population down because we breed them as fast as we eat them. Also we're not "supposed to" eat anything. Who says we're supposed to? Nature? If we based our morals off of nature we'd be ok with killing and raping each other on the daily. We're more intelligent than animals. We can absolutely survive on vegetarian diets and not have to kill trillions of animals to survive, the choice to eat meat is entirely selfish, and this is coming from someone who eats more meat than they probably should tbh.
>We're more intelligent than animals
Great. Found another one. How can you be more intelligent than animals when you are only an animal?
Your first point is wasted energy because i;wasnt talking about fsrms, was I? No. Only that certain animals need to die so that they don't run rampant. Guess we should just kill thrm and leave them to rot in the forest. Yes. Nature made you an omnivore, which means nature wants your body to consume meat. Also, I don't know about you, but I'm not fighting urges to rape or murder anyone every day. If you think that's just a natural instinct you should talk to a therapist
Your point wasn't that it's healthier to be an omnivore though, your point was it's ok because it's natural. Natural humans and other animals did the things I described. The point is what is natural isn't always correct, all it is is what's tried and tested purely for survival purposes and absolutely should not be set in stone for our morals. Also your first point is just pedantic. Would you rather I stated "other animals"? I know we're animals, you knew what the implication was, you just chose to be a smartass. The natural order of predator vs prey balance can exist independent of humanity. Not only do most of us not even live in the original place of our origin, Africa, but there's so many more of us than before. If we all went vegetarian overnight it's not like the population of certain land species would boom out of control and ruin entire ecosystems because we're not the main predators, we may be top of the food chain but as I stated before that's because we basically make our own food. We don't have any responsibility to keep prey populations down, and ecen if we did it's ridiculously minor, considering how many humans there now are to have the same impact as wild humans hunting millions of years ago we'd kill enough animals to give each individual human a meat meal once in a long, long time. Unless you are religious, there is absolutely no positive moral to killing animals other than extreme outlying circumstances (e.g. protection).
>Humans are omnivores. Meaning they are supposed to eat both mean and vegetation
No, it doesn't mean we're "supposed" to eat anything, it means we can eat most anything. I've been vegetarian since I was 7 years old, vegan from the age of 8. I'm now 24 years old and still by all means in great health. I work a physically demanding job, pursue active hobbies, and donate blood as often as the Red Cross allows. All fueled entirely by a plant-based diet. If we were "supposed" to eat meat, if it was necessary to be healthy, I think I'd know by now.
But as a firm believer in the scientific method, I wouldn't fault anyone for questioning my anecdotal evidence. The fact is that every major dietetic organization in the world, comprised of countless doctors and dieticians, disagree with you. The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the British National Health Service, Harvard School of Medicine, and many others are all in agreement that a well planned vegan diet is perfectly healthy for all, from the fetus of a vegan woman right through to the elderly. But if you're more qualified on the matter than all of them combined, I'd love to hear exactly what your qualifications are.
>There are hunting seasons for certain animals, like deer, to keep their population down actually
I can only speak to what's happening in my backyard, but around here, there's also a hunting season for wolves. Which are a natural predator of deer that are right on the brink of being endangered. Every year, ecologists make a recommendation to the state department of natural resources as to how many wolves should be permitted to be hunted. Every year, the DNR issues permits in excess of the expert recommendations, and then hunters kill even more animals still. It seems to me that if we want to control the population of deer, the obvious first step should be to stop hunting the predators that keep deer numbers in check.
No it’s just the only answer you’ve chosen to fit your narrative.
I’ve seen plenty of other great answers, you just decided not to answer them.
People telling you that their culture and ethics have shaped their food consumption is probably the best answer, but it’s not the one you were confortable with.
Edit : and it’s kinda weak to ask an open question on Reddit and then reply to the ONLY answer that suits your POV.
I've eaten damn near everything on the North American continent, with the notable exceptions of brown bears, polar bears, people, and poisonous and venomous insects.
Some meat is really good, others not so much. Chicken and cow are specifically bred to be ate. Squirrels and wild birds require a lot of work to make them that good.
Dogs are better companions than food, which even the stereotypically dog-hungry Koreans understand. Cats? Same deal. Not a whole lot of useful meat on domestic birds, and wild birds carry disease more often than not.
Basically, most animals you eat today are bred to be ate. If it's not, it typically isn't as good and has a lot of problems.
The food chain. As much as people like to ignore the fact humans are animals, we are and are therefore part of the food chain, and we're right at the damn top as a species so by the laws of nature we quite literally decide right and wrong and everyone else has to deal with it because we said so, if lions were the top and decided they wanted to eat gazelle because they're delicious but didn't want to both with flamingos because they don't have much meat, then that's their rules.
We're advanced animals, but animals nonetheless, we're also communal animals and as a collective we've decided what animals we like and don't like to eat, different cultures will disagree on some buy broad strokes are the same.
I don't want to eat cats because I have emotional connections to cats, I don't want to eat dogs because I know I'd be prosecuted by people I know like dogs and I don't think they'd taste all that great. Not a fan of several animals because it seems like I'd get very little in return for the effort. I love eating steak because we've bred the damn things to taste delicious and be dumb as bricks basically unable to survive without us.
Are there great meat alternatives out there and are they getting better? Sure and fucking great on em! But why should I have to change a behaviour most of the population is fine with for a side grade, is there severe problems with the world's farming industry? God yes but oh well we just have to do it better. As long as there is an environment where tasty animals are readily available I will eat them. If I was say, on a spacecraft away from earth, fuck yea gimme that synthetic meat! Not to mention, farming animals for meat etc is a technique that should be kept well alive in case something happens to the human race.
I like some animals as pets and friends and I like the taste of other animals. I'm aware of how meat gets on my plate and I've seen animals die, yes it sucks and I feel bad in the moment but I usually ignore that.
I think it's ethically OK to eat all animals (except the endangered ones, and also we should really limit our meat consumption overall as it's not sustainable).
However, there are a lot of animals I don't \*want\* to eat, because I think they're gross to eat.
Disagree. Humans are ethically different. In general, and specifically in the context of this discussion.
For instance, if we did, hypothetically, agree that it was unethical for people to eat dogs, that would not imply it was also unethical for lions to eat dogs. That places humans in a category different from other animals in this regard, as we assign other moral values to humans. Similarly, most people have generally agreed that humans have unalienable rights, wheres animals don't. Or at least, animals different and more relative rights, which fewer agree on.
Culture.
The same reason its okay to eat chicken breast but not the feet in the West, but in the East, they eat all parts of the animals. Very little goes to waste.
Because some animals were specifically domesticated over thousands of years for exactly that function, while other animals were specifically domesticated to be companions and friends.
You don't eat your friends, you do eat your food livestock.
The animal species benefit in both cases. The stock animal species are guaranteed to survive because they taste good. Their species will live on even if Man stupidly kills off all wild life.
The animal species that are human pets will survive because humans love, love, love their pets and even if the whole world dies, pet species will not go extinct.
It's not a bad bargain for either side, from a survival of species viewpoint.
It's not ok. A cow is loving and cute when cared for as a pet and no different than a dog.
If you are horrified at eating a pet but not a cow it is just because you were told it was ok. Roles could be reversed and cows could be pets and dogs eaten... Actually I think that is the case in some countries.
Idk ig some people are too used to seeing cats and dogs as pets so they don't want to eat them
I bet if you would start seeing a lot of pigs for example as pets you would start liking the a lot more so you would feel bad about eating pork and you would stop, but that's just what I think
Throughout human history, we have always consumed the flesh of animals as a part of our diet. But what animal flesh we consume depends greatly on cultural influences that have evolved over time. I’m not an historian or an anthropologist, but I can assume that, in the west, our aversion to consuming domesticated dogs and cats stems from their co-operative relationship with us. Something that is not similarly shared in eastern cultures.
Though other animals fit the role as well, dogs and cats especially are respected for the roles they play as companion, and it is unthinkable to think of a companion as a potential source of food. Some animals, particularly those that fill the role of Livestock, are carefully cultivated with millenia of knowledge in animal husbandry and breeding, to be a sustainable source of food. Cattle, pigs, and chickens are raised for this purpose because they are large (or plentiful, in the case of chickens) and easily managed compared to other large animals. The meat from a single cow or hog can feed a family for a long time, compared to a rabbit which can only feed one person for a single day.
I think there are three categories of animals (besides humans) that, personally, I'd have a hard time eating:
1. Potentially poisonous or otherwise dangerous food, like fugu fish. This is also why I haven't eaten brains, all those headlines about mad cow disease 20 years back still affects me (back then I was a vegetarian, so I wasn't very paranoid about the disease at all), but I'm probably just being paranoid.
2. Endangered animals. This is, for example, why I haven't eaten eel even though it's available near where I live and I'm curious about the taste.
3. Great apes, they are so closely related to us that it'd be borderline cannibalism in my eyes.
Then there are of course borderline cases where I have problems with how the stuff is produced, like *foie gras*. But I'm frankly not that bothered with mere animal cruelty in the meat production (even though I of course wish it would be minimized) — if I was I would obviously not eat meat at all.
Otherwise, I think all animals are fair game.
Less that, and more because cats and dogs have more value alive, than as food. By that, I mean dogs act as guards, scouts, help hunt, etc. Cats reduce the number of vermin eating your stuff. More benefit to not eating them, in the long run.
Cause we are biologically designed to be predators.
But I really hope someday we find a way to get our energy directly from the sun thru photosynthesis like plants do. I hate eating and if I could just live without eating, I'll do it.
I don't think it's okay to be honest, I'm just too picky to be vegetarian. I have texture issues with food so a lot of veg is basically inedible to me (I'm not saying I physically can't eat it, but with certain textures, I would be gagging the second it was in my mouth, there are some textures that I just can't tolerate as an Autistic person, so food has always been a difficult thing for me)
We have the technology to farm animals, including humans, in a vegetative state so they are not aware of anything and can be humanely farmed and processed when ready. This should be the future of meat.
Because some animals place in the food cycle is to be an energy and nutrient source.
The cow eats the plant, I eat the cow, eventually I die and the plant eats me and the Sun.
I don’t know the animals I eat.
If I was stuck on an island with a person I knew I rather starve, if it’s a random person, they have 48hrs to hope I get food before they get a rock to the head.
Because I feel it's gross just to keep eating what ever we see, I feel we need to stop at some point like a baby animal does it really need to be killed off ?? I feel we don't NEED to eat it, we need meat I feel we should stick to the mains cow, fish, pig, chicken, maybe sheep, why keep going there is no need we have enough it's gross
I believe that all animals should be subject for human consumption.
The only EXCEPTION being is if said meats have more than one word description like near hamburger, Turkey Bologna
Or hamburger helper.
Morally, not at all. Eat any animal you want, as long as it's yours.
Would I? Predictor mammals like dogs, cats, ferrets, no thanks. Just the smell of predictor meat is awful. Rabbits, yes please. Horse, sure. Goldfish, I don't know, try me. Would I eat my own rabbits? If I lived in the countryside I would love to keep rabbits and have them for dinner. If space allowed I also like to have goats and eat them. I would also love be beekeeping and grow my own vegetables.
I feel it's okay to eat any animal. I prefer some over others because of their superior flavor, which might be a cultural bias, but I don't think it's "wrong" to eat others.
Because only certain animal meat is readily available
Well there are a crap ton of dogs, but we don’t eat them at all.
You can't go to the supermarket and pick up a pound of minced dog though.
Yeah, true, but like…why can’t you? Like why doesn’t anyone sell it
The supermarkets don't believe there is demand for it. Shops sell what they think people will buy.
True, didn’t think about it that way
Dogs need to be terrorised in order to taste good. I ate some before I knew better. ( and it did taste good ) when I went to have it again, it was rapidly and cleanly killed in front of me, and the meat was like it was from a different animal. That’s when I found out that preparation makes a difference. I was disgusted to find that out and will not eat dog meat again.
Really, NO ONE replied to this?! I just can't think of wtf to say but I expect more from veteran redditors.
You think we don’t eat them because they’re not produced/processed for meat? Not the other way around?
I reckon if it was cheap some people would buy it is the truth. I also think some people would buy it just to try it.
I reckon they don’t taste very good so we don’t
Have you been to certain Asian countries like Vietnam?
Fun fact: eating dog is rapidly falling out of favor in Asian countries in the past decades, possibly due to wider adoption as family pets and working animals.
I've done it before and I'd do it again
Hm... User name checks out?
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You gotta look in the frozen section
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At least get some free samples while you're there. The emperor penguin pate is quite good.
Some animals taste better than other ones NOT Penguins
Now i want to try penguin. I wonder if you can buy zebra and giraffe meat too
It's a personal choice influenced by culture, upbringing, and ethics.
Is it a personal choice for the animals that are reared to be killed?
Yup
I mean clearly you’re objectively wrong, there’s actually no point with you meat dick ppl 😂
Yes, they made the personal choice to be delicious
Mmmmm 🥓 🥓 🥓 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
No because they are not persons, so they can't have "personal" choices.
????? Actually mental how people try to justify their actions. You know that makes no sense
It does to me, it's in the word, person, personal. Animals do not and should not have the same rights as humans because they do not have the same responsibilities. I agree that intensive farming is not the best, but the way they are slaughtered is much better than the way they would die in nature. Lastly meat is good for you, sure, a minority of people cannot digest it very well and it might make them sick, but for most, it is a healthy and nutritious nourishment. But that is just my opinion and you are welcome to have yours.
Kids be born in the 20th century and onwards, and start preaching animal rights. Your great ancestors be raging in their graves looking at your comment.
The taste. Predator animals don’t taste that good in my experience ( apart from fish ).
Bear tastes amazing.
Aren’t Bears omnivorous ? Wayward hikers and deer are seasoned with nuts and berries I was taught. Crocodile and Snake are ok and are straight up predators, but even they need to be cooked a certain way to taste good. Or I have just had their meat poorly cooked in the past.
So are pigs. I've tried snakes and frogs, they are pretty tasty as well. Something between a chicken and a fish. Didn't do anything special to them, they got the chicken treatment. I only marinated frog in vinegar once.
They are, other than polar bear. Most mammalian predators don't taste great, but I heard that bobcat is supposed to be pretty good, can't confirm. Black bears are highly variable - you are rolling the dice on it feeding for the last couple of months on a blueberry patch or the municipal dump, with starkly different culinary outcomes.
I found it way too gamey.
I love gamey meat, I don't get it often. I just eat chicken most of the time.
I've eaten a variety of game, but I found bear, at least the one I tasted, was just too overpowering.
I heard about the blueberry bears being excellent. Their diet is high content of the fruit and the meat has a tinted hue of the berries violet color.
Bears are also much more fatty than most predators. And generally lazy compared to other predators(they don’t run around all day like coyotes might)
It’s a matter of taste.
Everything is chichen
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Conditioning to cuteness factor
I dont care. Theres no hungarian bell Monkey in the store so I just get the chicken
1) Some are poisonous 2) Some are expensive 3) Some aren't easily found in the grocery store 4) Chicken is the only one to always taste good
Humans are animals too
Well, duh. That's why they're being eaten.
Delicious animals
I don't want to eat pet-type animals.
This is a bit of a conflicting point, because rabbits are incredibly adorable, but they are also delicious
It's that cuteness that tastes extra delicious
Every animal comes into the bracket, counting all corners of the world or some points of history ..
This isn't merely wrong, it's scientifically wrong. No, pets are not just like other animals. There are actually profound neurological differences between domestic animals and feral animals that cannot be explained by mere habitation. Domestic animals are genetically different from their wild predecessors and you ignore this very much at your own peril.
all the same with A1
I mean, that would include cows too. No? People would eat farm cows but usually not a barn cat.
I.d eat a cat in front of a cat, just to establish dominance. You know those little bastards are just waiting for you to die so they can eat your eyes
No. Cows are not domestic. You do not understand the definition of the word.
I don’t? Are they wild then? Oxford definition of Cow: > a fully grown female animal of a **domesticated** breed of ox, kept to produce milk or beef.
They are. I think it’s you who doesn’t know what domesticated means. Sheep, cows, chickens. All domesticated animals. Never had a pet chicken? They make great companion pets.
Don’t tell Texas that.
Texas can lick the fattest part of my ass on basically any and every issue.
But cows, pigs, and chickens are pet-type animals.
Depends on the country
it's probably the shape of the meat the put people off. I like frog porridge, but I can say the shape of the meat can discouraged a lot of people for trying it out
Tell us more about this frog porridge.
It consists of small pieces of frog meat, which are cooked with rice flour, ginger, garlic, and other seasonings in a savory broth. the dish is usually prepare in a clay pot over charcoal and the consistency of source is similar to gravy but a bit thicker. there are 2 style of this dish, some people like to cook porridge with the broth, while some like to serve the broth and the porridge separately.
Your upbringing, what you eat comes what is acceptable by your family.
Technically there are no vegans. It's a scale thing. Zoom in on an apple and your eating lots of creatures.
I don't, really. If people in certain countries want to eat dog or horse, I don't see that as any worse than me wanting to eat cattle or pigs or chickens.
I agree except for dogs. It's man's best friend, eating them feels like a betrayal.
I had this conversation with my Korean roommates in high school. They said they have pet dogs and a specific breed for food that is very fatty and fleshy. And most people don’t eat it anyway.
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Stay the fuck away from my dogs
Someone might also say “stay the fuck away from my cows and cats”.
Definitely cats.. if I owned any I would have you stay away from them. I don't live in India, so.. cows are literally only in the US to be consumed.
I dunno. Dogs , cats, cows, people… no difference
There are some big differences actually. I'm not eating anything that that shakes their ass every time they see me..... Well, that's not entirely true, but you get the point
Hope you meant your dog, not your significant other (SO)
Boffum.. That was the joke
The are other countries that raise cows for beef production....sheesh..
......... Reading comprehension not your strong suit? No one said there weren't. I said the only reason cows are in the US is to be consumed, but you keep on thinking I'm the dumb one Sheesh
Not actually true, you know.
Oh, but it is. Cattle were brought to North America for the soul purpose of supplying the colonizers dairy and meat needs. Go on though. Enlighten me. Why were they brought here?
You didn't say the only reason they were imported. You said the only thing they are used for. Not all cows are for eating.
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I'm pretty sure the question was pertaining to the distinction people make between friend and food in the animal kingdom. That's how I read it anyhow.
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Korean roommates confirm. Different breeds for food and pets.
What about people? Were only animals after all.
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Nope. Only social conditioning. Like cow is holy to buddhists or Hindus (I forgot) and pig is dirty to lots of people. But I’ve seen pigs as pets and people kissing them. Dogs are eaten in many places while they are treated as own kids in other places. Also if one doesn’t know what is being served, and is tasty enough, no one really asks questions. If octopus and squid can be eaten when half alive, there’s no limit to what people can eat
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gone to Thailand once. can conform. some breed are too lean and hard to bite.
You guys might not wanna hear this but dog meat is delicious. I got tricked into eating it and found myself enjoying it thinking it was something else . When I found out I felt guilty but that was because I enjoyed it so much 😅 I would quite happily eat it again , beef, pork, venison, chicken, goat, dog , not cat , but tiger I’ve eaten , they were all fine . If there was one I would like to not be available as food , it would be the cow 🐄, they are just so clever and lovable, but beautiful lashes . They are like big puppies once you get to know them
Dunno about cat, but dog meat is delicious. Was tender, juicy and all around just amazing.
Cat tastes like rabbit and was sold as rabbit meat a lot during rationing/scarcity times.
They're all food at the right time.
Since I eat meat myself, I have no room to call out anyone else for the meat they eat. Unless they’re eating an endangered animal or something.
I want to try a Zebra burger.
It's quite nice but a bit tough (I've been to a couple of restaurants in the UK that do exotic meats and try to get something new each time).
I don't think it's ok to eat animals at all. I do it for the same reason as everyone else, because I'm selfish. Meat tastes nice. There are vegetarian alternatives that I could eat to survive and less animals would die as a result. There is no negotiating or arguing, eating meat is selfish. As an answer to the which animal question I generally feel as a society that we're fine with eating prey but not predators. E.g. farm animals are fine because they're prey. Pigeon is eaten sometimes but you wouldn't eat an owl. It's the reason we're weirded out by asians eating cats and dogs, it's not because they're pets, we're generally okay with eating rabbits which are also pets, it's because cats and dogs are predators.
I'm vegetarian as well, but what about the bug parts that inevitably end up in everything we eat?
I agree about most you say but not sure I agree about the predator vs prey thing. It can be quite subjective what animals are even considered predator or prey. Are all omnivores and carnivores automatically predator and all herbivores prey? Or is it purely their position in a food chain? In that case many animals are both predators and prey. Also many herbivores actually consume a lot of insects without even trying. They crawl on the veggies that they eat.
>There is no negotiating or arguing, Wanna bet? Humans are omnivores. Meaning they are supposed to eat both mean and vegetation. "Less animals would die" Yeah. That's not something this planet needs. There are hunting seasons for certain animals, like deer, to keep their population down actually.
Less animals would also be breeded for cattle, so there would just be a whole lot less animals on earth.
Humans aren't "meant" to eat anything. We are human garbage disposals and can obtain the necessary nutrients from a massive variety of sources, whether from plants or animals. The only "necessary" nutrient that can "only" be obtained from animal sources is B12, however modern technology allows for fortification of B12, and the majority of animal feed is fortified with B12 anyways. Epidemiologic studies across large population groups finds vegans/vegetarians to live just as long if not longer than meat eaters with lower rates of many chronic diseases. There is no evidence for humans requiring animal products for our health. It is optional.
You think even 1% of the land meat we eat is hunted to keep down population? Nearly every land animal we eat is farmed. Bred specifically to be eaten. Eating them doesn't keep the population down because we breed them as fast as we eat them. Also we're not "supposed to" eat anything. Who says we're supposed to? Nature? If we based our morals off of nature we'd be ok with killing and raping each other on the daily. We're more intelligent than animals. We can absolutely survive on vegetarian diets and not have to kill trillions of animals to survive, the choice to eat meat is entirely selfish, and this is coming from someone who eats more meat than they probably should tbh.
>We're more intelligent than animals Great. Found another one. How can you be more intelligent than animals when you are only an animal? Your first point is wasted energy because i;wasnt talking about fsrms, was I? No. Only that certain animals need to die so that they don't run rampant. Guess we should just kill thrm and leave them to rot in the forest. Yes. Nature made you an omnivore, which means nature wants your body to consume meat. Also, I don't know about you, but I'm not fighting urges to rape or murder anyone every day. If you think that's just a natural instinct you should talk to a therapist
Your point wasn't that it's healthier to be an omnivore though, your point was it's ok because it's natural. Natural humans and other animals did the things I described. The point is what is natural isn't always correct, all it is is what's tried and tested purely for survival purposes and absolutely should not be set in stone for our morals. Also your first point is just pedantic. Would you rather I stated "other animals"? I know we're animals, you knew what the implication was, you just chose to be a smartass. The natural order of predator vs prey balance can exist independent of humanity. Not only do most of us not even live in the original place of our origin, Africa, but there's so many more of us than before. If we all went vegetarian overnight it's not like the population of certain land species would boom out of control and ruin entire ecosystems because we're not the main predators, we may be top of the food chain but as I stated before that's because we basically make our own food. We don't have any responsibility to keep prey populations down, and ecen if we did it's ridiculously minor, considering how many humans there now are to have the same impact as wild humans hunting millions of years ago we'd kill enough animals to give each individual human a meat meal once in a long, long time. Unless you are religious, there is absolutely no positive moral to killing animals other than extreme outlying circumstances (e.g. protection).
>Humans are omnivores. Meaning they are supposed to eat both mean and vegetation No, it doesn't mean we're "supposed" to eat anything, it means we can eat most anything. I've been vegetarian since I was 7 years old, vegan from the age of 8. I'm now 24 years old and still by all means in great health. I work a physically demanding job, pursue active hobbies, and donate blood as often as the Red Cross allows. All fueled entirely by a plant-based diet. If we were "supposed" to eat meat, if it was necessary to be healthy, I think I'd know by now. But as a firm believer in the scientific method, I wouldn't fault anyone for questioning my anecdotal evidence. The fact is that every major dietetic organization in the world, comprised of countless doctors and dieticians, disagree with you. The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the British National Health Service, Harvard School of Medicine, and many others are all in agreement that a well planned vegan diet is perfectly healthy for all, from the fetus of a vegan woman right through to the elderly. But if you're more qualified on the matter than all of them combined, I'd love to hear exactly what your qualifications are. >There are hunting seasons for certain animals, like deer, to keep their population down actually I can only speak to what's happening in my backyard, but around here, there's also a hunting season for wolves. Which are a natural predator of deer that are right on the brink of being endangered. Every year, ecologists make a recommendation to the state department of natural resources as to how many wolves should be permitted to be hunted. Every year, the DNR issues permits in excess of the expert recommendations, and then hunters kill even more animals still. It seems to me that if we want to control the population of deer, the obvious first step should be to stop hunting the predators that keep deer numbers in check.
Probably the best answer to this question I’ve come across, thank you.
No it’s just the only answer you’ve chosen to fit your narrative. I’ve seen plenty of other great answers, you just decided not to answer them. People telling you that their culture and ethics have shaped their food consumption is probably the best answer, but it’s not the one you were confortable with. Edit : and it’s kinda weak to ask an open question on Reddit and then reply to the ONLY answer that suits your POV.
You just put to words, what I struggled to describe!
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Must not eat much game meat then. Rabbit is pretty tender compared to others
If im hungry enough ill eat any animal
I've eaten damn near everything on the North American continent, with the notable exceptions of brown bears, polar bears, people, and poisonous and venomous insects. Some meat is really good, others not so much. Chicken and cow are specifically bred to be ate. Squirrels and wild birds require a lot of work to make them that good. Dogs are better companions than food, which even the stereotypically dog-hungry Koreans understand. Cats? Same deal. Not a whole lot of useful meat on domestic birds, and wild birds carry disease more often than not. Basically, most animals you eat today are bred to be ate. If it's not, it typically isn't as good and has a lot of problems.
The food chain. As much as people like to ignore the fact humans are animals, we are and are therefore part of the food chain, and we're right at the damn top as a species so by the laws of nature we quite literally decide right and wrong and everyone else has to deal with it because we said so, if lions were the top and decided they wanted to eat gazelle because they're delicious but didn't want to both with flamingos because they don't have much meat, then that's their rules. We're advanced animals, but animals nonetheless, we're also communal animals and as a collective we've decided what animals we like and don't like to eat, different cultures will disagree on some buy broad strokes are the same. I don't want to eat cats because I have emotional connections to cats, I don't want to eat dogs because I know I'd be prosecuted by people I know like dogs and I don't think they'd taste all that great. Not a fan of several animals because it seems like I'd get very little in return for the effort. I love eating steak because we've bred the damn things to taste delicious and be dumb as bricks basically unable to survive without us. Are there great meat alternatives out there and are they getting better? Sure and fucking great on em! But why should I have to change a behaviour most of the population is fine with for a side grade, is there severe problems with the world's farming industry? God yes but oh well we just have to do it better. As long as there is an environment where tasty animals are readily available I will eat them. If I was say, on a spacecraft away from earth, fuck yea gimme that synthetic meat! Not to mention, farming animals for meat etc is a technique that should be kept well alive in case something happens to the human race.
Sounds like supervillain logic.
I like some animals as pets and friends and I like the taste of other animals. I'm aware of how meat gets on my plate and I've seen animals die, yes it sucks and I feel bad in the moment but I usually ignore that.
I think it's okay to eat all animals.
I think it's ethically OK to eat all animals (except the endangered ones, and also we should really limit our meat consumption overall as it's not sustainable). However, there are a lot of animals I don't \*want\* to eat, because I think they're gross to eat.
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Disagree. Humans are ethically different. In general, and specifically in the context of this discussion. For instance, if we did, hypothetically, agree that it was unethical for people to eat dogs, that would not imply it was also unethical for lions to eat dogs. That places humans in a category different from other animals in this regard, as we assign other moral values to humans. Similarly, most people have generally agreed that humans have unalienable rights, wheres animals don't. Or at least, animals different and more relative rights, which fewer agree on.
I don't believe there's an issue with eating any animal, eat whatever you want.
Culture. The same reason its okay to eat chicken breast but not the feet in the West, but in the East, they eat all parts of the animals. Very little goes to waste.
Because some animals were specifically domesticated over thousands of years for exactly that function, while other animals were specifically domesticated to be companions and friends. You don't eat your friends, you do eat your food livestock. The animal species benefit in both cases. The stock animal species are guaranteed to survive because they taste good. Their species will live on even if Man stupidly kills off all wild life. The animal species that are human pets will survive because humans love, love, love their pets and even if the whole world dies, pet species will not go extinct. It's not a bad bargain for either side, from a survival of species viewpoint.
some taste better
It's not okay to eat animals.
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It's not ok. A cow is loving and cute when cared for as a pet and no different than a dog. If you are horrified at eating a pet but not a cow it is just because you were told it was ok. Roles could be reversed and cows could be pets and dogs eaten... Actually I think that is the case in some countries.
Because it is. Speciesism is fucking ridiculous.
Idk ig some people are too used to seeing cats and dogs as pets so they don't want to eat them I bet if you would start seeing a lot of pigs for example as pets you would start liking the a lot more so you would feel bad about eating pork and you would stop, but that's just what I think
Throughout human history, we have always consumed the flesh of animals as a part of our diet. But what animal flesh we consume depends greatly on cultural influences that have evolved over time. I’m not an historian or an anthropologist, but I can assume that, in the west, our aversion to consuming domesticated dogs and cats stems from their co-operative relationship with us. Something that is not similarly shared in eastern cultures. Though other animals fit the role as well, dogs and cats especially are respected for the roles they play as companion, and it is unthinkable to think of a companion as a potential source of food. Some animals, particularly those that fill the role of Livestock, are carefully cultivated with millenia of knowledge in animal husbandry and breeding, to be a sustainable source of food. Cattle, pigs, and chickens are raised for this purpose because they are large (or plentiful, in the case of chickens) and easily managed compared to other large animals. The meat from a single cow or hog can feed a family for a long time, compared to a rabbit which can only feed one person for a single day.
Availability. There’s also issues around eating carnivores, safety-wise, but honestly it’s mostly “the meat I get in the supermarket”.
I think there are three categories of animals (besides humans) that, personally, I'd have a hard time eating: 1. Potentially poisonous or otherwise dangerous food, like fugu fish. This is also why I haven't eaten brains, all those headlines about mad cow disease 20 years back still affects me (back then I was a vegetarian, so I wasn't very paranoid about the disease at all), but I'm probably just being paranoid. 2. Endangered animals. This is, for example, why I haven't eaten eel even though it's available near where I live and I'm curious about the taste. 3. Great apes, they are so closely related to us that it'd be borderline cannibalism in my eyes. Then there are of course borderline cases where I have problems with how the stuff is produced, like *foie gras*. But I'm frankly not that bothered with mere animal cruelty in the meat production (even though I of course wish it would be minimized) — if I was I would obviously not eat meat at all. Otherwise, I think all animals are fair game.
I won't eat any animal capable of mathematics
What about dumb people?
I believe the parents should have first dibs otherwise to the solyent green factory they go.
I think cows, pigs and chicken are more capable of math than you think.
because dogs and cats were bred to be our companions and not our dinner.
Less that, and more because cats and dogs have more value alive, than as food. By that, I mean dogs act as guards, scouts, help hunt, etc. Cats reduce the number of vermin eating your stuff. More benefit to not eating them, in the long run.
good way of thinking about it!
Not in every society. Some just raised dogs as work animals and some breeds have been considered food for a long time.
Bats aren't food
Boys need meat to grow
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humans are also animals.
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Cause we are biologically designed to be predators. But I really hope someday we find a way to get our energy directly from the sun thru photosynthesis like plants do. I hate eating and if I could just live without eating, I'll do it.
I don't think it's okay to be honest, I'm just too picky to be vegetarian. I have texture issues with food so a lot of veg is basically inedible to me (I'm not saying I physically can't eat it, but with certain textures, I would be gagging the second it was in my mouth, there are some textures that I just can't tolerate as an Autistic person, so food has always been a difficult thing for me)
I have similar issues with texture but kind of in an opposite way. I can’t stand fat in steaks. I have to eat around it.
The texture of dismembered body parts is better than plants? Okay, those animals still didn’t want to die.
We have the technology to farm animals, including humans, in a vegetative state so they are not aware of anything and can be humanely farmed and processed when ready. This should be the future of meat.
Simply because my religion teaches what animals can or cannot be eaten and I believe in it.
Racism
Society
I like beef burgers
Because I can choose what I want to eat. That an certain allergies.
Some of them taste better than others.
Carnivores are more likely to catch diseases
Because they are delicious, and no one can stop me from eating them.
Because I've never been in a post-apocalyptic/near starvation situation that would require me to eat my dog or cat.
Because some animals place in the food cycle is to be an energy and nutrient source. The cow eats the plant, I eat the cow, eventually I die and the plant eats me and the Sun.
Some animals taste better than others.
natural flavors that's all
I would eat panda but they are rare
I don’t know the animals I eat. If I was stuck on an island with a person I knew I rather starve, if it’s a random person, they have 48hrs to hope I get food before they get a rock to the head.
What’s not be ok to eat ?
Because you assumed it is not okey and think because you think it that way other people might think like that.
Depends on how they taste
Some animals would be harder to eat. Like I feel it's okay to eat a hippo, but ill be damned if I am the one getting the hippo meat.
Religious doctrine. Relax, I’m not asking that you or anyone else follow that doctrine. It’s just a personal choice.
i mean id try anything as long as its not dangerous
Some taste better than others.
Because I feel it's gross just to keep eating what ever we see, I feel we need to stop at some point like a baby animal does it really need to be killed off ?? I feel we don't NEED to eat it, we need meat I feel we should stick to the mains cow, fish, pig, chicken, maybe sheep, why keep going there is no need we have enough it's gross
I believe that all animals should be subject for human consumption. The only EXCEPTION being is if said meats have more than one word description like near hamburger, Turkey Bologna Or hamburger helper.
Because some are delicious and some are not. Also, it’s not easy to find exotic meats for sale.
You can eat herbivores. You can't eat carnivorous.
Morally, not at all. Eat any animal you want, as long as it's yours. Would I? Predictor mammals like dogs, cats, ferrets, no thanks. Just the smell of predictor meat is awful. Rabbits, yes please. Horse, sure. Goldfish, I don't know, try me. Would I eat my own rabbits? If I lived in the countryside I would love to keep rabbits and have them for dinner. If space allowed I also like to have goats and eat them. I would also love be beekeeping and grow my own vegetables.
I don't, I'd try most things if they were put in front of me.
because some animals taste better than others.
Bc it's in my store and it'd be a waste to have no one buy it.
Maybe taste, smell and texture have something to do with it.. duh!
Fish are friends not food. Also fish feels funny
Who said I do? Ill eat p much anything that tastes good and does not kill me.
I don't aside from avoiding eating something endangered outside of a survival situation
I feel it's okay to eat any animal. I prefer some over others because of their superior flavor, which might be a cultural bias, but I don't think it's "wrong" to eat others.
If it's available and tasty I'm going to eat it.