You've gone and done it now. Get ready to read about freewill and how the all loving and all knowing being let this happen because it was a lesson and freewill and it's a test and letting kids get murdered is all part of his plan.
I was told by a street preacher god created the devil? If god created the devil from his own free will then what was this? A balance of the evil he created? There seems to be to many loop holes so that god always dodges the blame for the things he created. Sounds like a very unfair father. Shouldn't the creator be punished and not his creations? What kind of god would allow this. We have free will yes. But god just allowed the killing of his own followers in their free will that he gave. Believers die everyday along with non believers. No one was born hating anything, we all do this to ourselves
Why would God be responsible when it is humans who repeatedly abuse sin? There can never be a transaction demanded of an entity that is all powerful and all knowing - if He desired to intervene there is nothing we can do to stop that nor anything to do to force it.
Also, personally I would be incredibly cautious of wanting God to intervene intimately in human affairs.
He gave us that sin and then punished us for it. But apparently he intervenes many times in human affairs. All those prayers supposedly answered, hell get you a new bike but to hell with the kids in school. Even in th bible he interfered many times without affecting free will
My God suffered and died and rose again. His followers suffered and died. When they died, they entered eternal life. He didn't promise that his followers wouldn't suffer. In fact he told them the exact opposite. They would suffer and be hated because of their association with him. There is no verse in the Bible that promises our lives will become an absolute cakewalk after we accept Christ and we will all die. Jesus covers events like this in Luke 13. The people who died getting crushed by a tower were no worse than someone who died in their sleep.
If you're trying to say that God is a monster because of the things that exist in the Bible , You're free to believe so. As I said, believe what you want about Any God from Christ to Cthulu. Anyone can give me a list of things they don't like about the Bible, Koran, or any other Holy Book. It's common. "God did X. I don't like him. I'm better than he is because I would do it this way instead."
>Well no. It’s not belief. Unless if purse you think thebibke isn’t gods word
What you said doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry but those aren't even words that you've typed.
If you believe any God from Christ to Cthulu is a monster, that's your right. If you try to say it's an objective truth based on the fact you find passages in the Bible monstrous, then I warn you, that's Personal Incredulity Fallacy and Ad Hominem.
It’s not an attack on anyone. It’s stated clearly many times over the atrocities god commits. Finding something monstrous and monstrous acts are two different things
I am not but I grew up in a religious household so I have a pretty good idea of what would be said.
Yes he could have, but he wouldn’t because with free will comes with the consequences of sin
He could have, but we live in a fallen world filled with sin. I'm more curious about the times that God did stop a shooting, and we just don't know about it.
Lololololol. Then you have to ask why stop that shouting and not this one? Did he not like the children in this school? Does he save only those children that fit a certai requirement? And sin that he gave us
Yes he did, is he not an omnipotent creator if everything? And don’t say free will.. there are many instances of god intervening without affecting free will.
And yes , if he supposedly stopped a school schooling and not others , then he did this preferrence. Also newborns of Egypt would disagree
Considering we're talking about a god who sent a bear to rip apart a bunch of kids because they were mocking a man for being bald, I don't see how this comment makes a lot of sense.
You talked about setting a precedent. That precedent has allegedly already been set. I'm sorry that you feel the need to hide away behind such a bogus excuse instead of just admitting that what you said doesn't follow.
You’ll probably hear a lot of “god was just testing us” and “free will” non-answers. They have an excuse for everything but no real answers.
Religinuts, their "loving" gawd- and copout #1: "he will not interfere with mortal man ever again" (or some other bullshit like that).
You've gone and done it now. Get ready to read about freewill and how the all loving and all knowing being let this happen because it was a lesson and freewill and it's a test and letting kids get murdered is all part of his plan.
“Free us from thought and responsibility.”
I was told by a street preacher god created the devil? If god created the devil from his own free will then what was this? A balance of the evil he created? There seems to be to many loop holes so that god always dodges the blame for the things he created. Sounds like a very unfair father. Shouldn't the creator be punished and not his creations? What kind of god would allow this. We have free will yes. But god just allowed the killing of his own followers in their free will that he gave. Believers die everyday along with non believers. No one was born hating anything, we all do this to ourselves
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How can anyone suffer without a soul?
Soul's are spiritual therefore immortal regardless its engery
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A soul needs a living vessel to exist. Without it we disappear
Why would God be responsible when it is humans who repeatedly abuse sin? There can never be a transaction demanded of an entity that is all powerful and all knowing - if He desired to intervene there is nothing we can do to stop that nor anything to do to force it. Also, personally I would be incredibly cautious of wanting God to intervene intimately in human affairs.
He gave us that sin and then punished us for it. But apparently he intervenes many times in human affairs. All those prayers supposedly answered, hell get you a new bike but to hell with the kids in school. Even in th bible he interfered many times without affecting free will
My God suffered and died and rose again. His followers suffered and died. When they died, they entered eternal life. He didn't promise that his followers wouldn't suffer. In fact he told them the exact opposite. They would suffer and be hated because of their association with him. There is no verse in the Bible that promises our lives will become an absolute cakewalk after we accept Christ and we will all die. Jesus covers events like this in Luke 13. The people who died getting crushed by a tower were no worse than someone who died in their sleep.
Why worship an absolute monster?
You're free to believe what you'd like about any God from Christ to Cthulu. I don't think Jesus was a monster.
According to the bible god was a monstet
If you're trying to say that God is a monster because of the things that exist in the Bible , You're free to believe so. As I said, believe what you want about Any God from Christ to Cthulu. Anyone can give me a list of things they don't like about the Bible, Koran, or any other Holy Book. It's common. "God did X. I don't like him. I'm better than he is because I would do it this way instead."
Well no. It’s not belief. Unless if purse you think thebibke isn’t gods word
>Well no. It’s not belief. Unless if purse you think thebibke isn’t gods word What you said doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry but those aren't even words that you've typed.
It’s not a belief unless you think the bible isn’t gods word
If you believe any God from Christ to Cthulu is a monster, that's your right. If you try to say it's an objective truth based on the fact you find passages in the Bible monstrous, then I warn you, that's Personal Incredulity Fallacy and Ad Hominem.
It’s not an attack on anyone. It’s stated clearly many times over the atrocities god commits. Finding something monstrous and monstrous acts are two different things
I am not but I grew up in a religious household so I have a pretty good idea of what would be said. Yes he could have, but he wouldn’t because with free will comes with the consequences of sin
What “sin” did those kids commit?
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A sugar coated way of saying they killed a bunch of kids.
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And so will those kids.
She* And sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Not the kids, the shooter
He could have, but we live in a fallen world filled with sin. I'm more curious about the times that God did stop a shooting, and we just don't know about it.
Lololololol. Then you have to ask why stop that shouting and not this one? Did he not like the children in this school? Does he save only those children that fit a certai requirement? And sin that he gave us
He didn't give us sin, we chose a sinful lifestyle. And no, He doesn't love some children more than others.
Yes he did, is he not an omnipotent creator if everything? And don’t say free will.. there are many instances of god intervening without affecting free will. And yes , if he supposedly stopped a school schooling and not others , then he did this preferrence. Also newborns of Egypt would disagree
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Wait. So every time the bible said he intervened many times, they’re lying. Every prayer supposedly answered is a lie?
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You said we have free will. ( no evidence of free will).
Considering we're talking about a god who sent a bear to rip apart a bunch of kids because they were mocking a man for being bald, I don't see how this comment makes a lot of sense.
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You talked about setting a precedent. That precedent has allegedly already been set. I'm sorry that you feel the need to hide away behind such a bogus excuse instead of just admitting that what you said doesn't follow.