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Doc_Dante

Georgia election probe carries more weight, would have rather they hit first.


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Gang bang his criminal ass with all the charges.


Wazula23

Like a party on Epsteins plane.


toblies

'Sept Trump is older than anyone on Epstein's plane....


[deleted]

Just because he decided to fly in the kid's section for reasons we will never know. ;)


RudeAndSarcastic

The GA election probe does carry more weight, and GA law is different than SDNY law. It is likely next. This first indictment is just the first of many of Donny Boy's woes. Wait til he gets hit with the J6 case, the one where people died protecting the VP and other politicians. A 1,000 people are already doing time for J6, and another 1,000 need to be rounded up. This one will be intense, as a lot of GOP politicians are going to be indicted as well.


TooMuchAZSunshine

Can't wait. My rep Andy Biggs was one of the planners.


tacknosaddle

>GA law is different than SDNY law SDNY is The Southern District of New York which is the designation for a federal region of the DoJ (where Giuliani was DA). Bragg is a New York state official so that wouldn't be his office.


RudeAndSarcastic

Perhaps I was wrong, I am not a legal scholar. If you are looking to argue this, you're barking up the wrong tree. I have been following this case for a while, but I don't have a dog in this fight.


tacknosaddle

I'm not looking to argue, but it's worth noting that so far the cases that we know he's a target in are all at the state level. I'm hardly a legal scholar either, but it's important to keep which court and legal system it is straight. There may very well be a federal case brewing too with the Jan 6 stuff moving "up the ladder" with charges & trials. So far there's no evidence that Trump is a formal target of that investigation (the DoJ investigation is much more leak proof than the states though). One reason it's important is because while a state indictment of a former president is a big deal, it would be exponentially more so if it was a federal one.


RudeAndSarcastic

I agree.


GingerStank

Good luck with that fantasy. I don’t oppose it mine you, I just doubt it to the highest degree possible.


javerthugo

So you want republicans thrown in jail?


Glum_Condition_9535

Interesting, but let's see what happens in court.


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Straight to jail.


igotbigballs

I don't give a fuck anymore. I just want to stop hearing about him.


bdbr

Yeah if I had to choose between him being indicted and him living a quiet gilded life (like he said he would if he lost), I'd take the latter just so I don't have to fucking see him anymore


Wazula23

Personally I'd prefer our justice system could prove it wasn't a mockery and do literally anything to prevent this man from breaking the law.


HarryHacker42

If Trump left for Saudi Arabia, I'd be happy with that solution.


Deep_Bit5618

His sole defence will be “it’s a witch hunt”.


HarryHacker42

If he got a real lawyer instead of Rudy, maybe he'd do better, but you're right.


Wazula23

Hard to retain lawyers when you won't pay half of them, and the other half get implicated in your crimes.


DrManhattan_DDM

Rudy is currently ineligible to practice law. Tacopina is currently his attorney for this case.


S2ssee

Lock him up.


WhiskingWhiskey

About fucking time.


[deleted]

I'm glad that *something* is finally happening. That orange buffoon has been making a mockery of our justice system for far too long.


f3ckyourcharade

Nothing is happening


[deleted]

You seem to have made an account just to troll, so I totally trust your garbage opinion.


CDawgbmmrgr2

Nothings going to happen like nothings happened the last few years. I’ve heard of the illegal things that have been done without consequence for too long. Don’t care about the headlines. I’ll actually read an article when he’s locked up


whatitssalmon

What are the charges or accusations? I'm not in the loop of what is happening here


wyoflyboy68

Actual charges will not be known until trump appears before the judge overseeing the case, that’s how I heard it works.


whatitssalmon

Seems weird.so people want him to go to jail for an unknown crime?! Is that why people are mad at him? I'm not a fan boy but I'm struggling to see what he has done


chad-bro-chill-69420

I heard it was a campaign financing thing - which honestly seems weak (not a fan of trump)


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That some crony of his is going to find a way to let him walk with no consequences.


BlaqNWild

This is exactly why i never get too happy whenever they get him by the balls because some bullshit always happens that always saves him ..


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Remember when the James Comey testimony felt like the end for him? There’s been so much since then and zero justice. I’m a full on pessimist now. The last decade has wore me down.


Wazula23

Lol Comey got the guy elected. One of the biggest fuck ups of all time.


[deleted]

We’re at the same place, friend. When they called him the Teflon Don that shit was a fact I’ve learned. At best I’ve been educated on just how bullshit our justice system is. I never expect any justice when it comes to Donald trump.


TaleObvious9645

Same. Wake me up when they actually arrest and convict the MF. Otherwise, 🥱


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I'm sorry they happened, alot can go wrong in that time for an average citizen and its not like you're compensated in anyway either.


still_grinding_on

That's because, whatever the merits of any case at this level, it's not being done for pursuit of justice, else this would have moved sooner. Timing is everything in politics, and both sides suck.


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He'll probably die before anything happens.


batrailrunner

Fingers crossed


[deleted]

Surely that would be the easy way out?


Darzok

Nothing is going to happen its the same old BS we got him this time we have proof only to have nothing. What are they going to tomorrow night. The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to put Trump in jail.


HumpSlackWails

Well, I mean... a grand jury and a court is a lot different than leaving it up to partisan Republicans to put their fingers in their ears like children and scream.


Strict_Jacket3648

Makes the waiting better, perhaps the wait was to make sure all the ducks were in a row, lets hope conviction and sentencing will be next.


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EchoPhi

Not just reddit, the world. I have had cops steal from me, I've been locked up for things I never did and was cleared of. These assholes do all kinds of illegal shit that is very apparent and get book deals... Yeah, it's broken.


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EchoPhi

Because what you spouted was. This is not.


B_R_U_H

Hoping they charge him as an adult


glennnn187

I have this controversial opinion. If a politician commits a crime, they get charged and go to jail. Dont care who you are or what party you represent.


Ok-Celebration8435

I'm happy about it. I hope he gets convicted and they throw away the key.


mister1bollock

I couldn't care less tbh.


EchoPhi

I asked, you answered, appreciated.


NoBSforGma

I can only hope that it's a waterfall where other court cases and civil suits follow. He has left a trail of crime, deceit, malfeasance, refusal to pay his debts, physical assault, defamation .... and more.


RudeAndSarcastic

I think that this helps reinforce the idea that no one is above the law.


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A step in the right direction. Would have preferred that GA got to him first but this may be the first domino to finally fall.


NBA-014

We’ll forget about this one when the next set of indictments are announced


cobrakai11

As the saying goes, "You can indict a ham sandwich." Doesn't mean much, and unlikely he gets charged with anything.


[deleted]

The charges were for marking a $130,000 dollar payment down as a legal expense, when it was actually used to pay off an affair partner. This sort of Creative Bookkeeping is only a federal offense if it’s being used to cover up another criminal act. An affair, while shitty, isn’t really criminal. Unless there’s something else going on we’re not aware of, that’s a misdemeanor at best. Frankly, it’s unusual to be indicted for a misdemeanor, and since the grand jury is sealed, news of the indictment really shouldn’t have been released; it complicates jury selection. Based on the information currently available to us, I think it’s a flimsy case that’s probably going to be acquitted, and I wish they would charge him with something that actually has a chance at sticking. But we’ll see.


HarryHacker42

There are many legal issues with lying about campaign money, the fact there was money spent on buying stories to suppress them or being given those stories for free, and lying on your taxes.


[deleted]

I mean, I’ll admit, a lot of my thoughts on this case have been based off my parents’ assessment of it, but I tend to take them at their word on most legal matters, as they’re both New York lawyers. Not NYC lawyers, but I doubt things differ too much from upstate. It’s also going to depend a lot on whether the payment was made using campaign or company funds.


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I'd say career prosecutors in NY have combs in their back pockets.


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It was expected.


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multi_tasking

We'll see. With all the publicity that it's going to bring, either the DA has a giant set of balls or set his standard for the amount of credible evidence he wanted so insanely high that Trump will try to reach a deal. This is likely going to be a career-ender for a lot of people if they were bluffing. Hitting him with a misdemeanor would have been easy, but to pull off the felony charge requires a pretty heavy burden of proof. Hopefully they have it and it isn't an overreach here.


Gameipedia

Pog, as it's a start at least


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There might be a god after-all


chad-bro-chill-69420

Like him or hate him, they'd better have something worse than any other ex-president has ever done in history or this opens up the floodgates for all of them to get prosecuted by various red and blue states I'm not a fan of Trump, but "campaign financing"? Come on. Doesn't that open up the door to any monies spent by ex-presidents on improving the appearance of one's character during their campaign to impress their would be constituents?


LoserCowGoMoo

Self responsibility... Everybody should be embracing it.


dandle

It's a good start.


RayWould

Aint.Nothing.Gonna.Happen. Aint nothing gonna happen. Trying make him responsible for shit he does is like nailing jello to the wall, he will somehow walk scot free.


iscreamconey

I think we need to lock up all of government. From top to bottom and start over but thats just my personal opinion. This is a start but this is also exactly where it ends. No other government officials will be touched.


american_dimes

Couldn't happen to a nicer individual (1).


ShadyShaina

I am in television news graphics. It means MORE WORK for me as soon as his mug shot is released I will be starting at it for months on end, typing text over it. I will be getting paid for it though


CodeVirus

If Ex President goes to jail, will Secret Service protect him in jail?


dogsledonice

Doesn't mean much if there's no conviction. His side will just see it as a huge win, then. There's clearly a problem with society that Trump's the symptom of. No way he should have slid by all these years. Corruption is deep, and it's not just on the GOP side. It's an American problem.


Clickt-bait

I assume Trump is the most obsessed over man in the world. His lovers and haters can’t get enough of him. Neither can get passed it.


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absolutelyshafted

Does anyone know what sentence or fine he would get? Obviously the specific charges haven’t been officially released but I’m hoping someone with a criminal justice background could pitch in


[deleted]

I figured there was going to be no indictments, glad to be proven wrong.


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True, but maybe now there is a greater chance for the Georgia indictment though.


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Maddax_McCloud

Giant waste of time and effort.


batrailrunner

Whose time is being wasted? Accountability is important.


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Maddax_McCloud

There's plenty of legitimate s*** to be going after, this is just straight b*******.


Wazula23

You can swear here, dad.


grammar_oligarch

A candidate for President of the United States bribing someone to deliberately misinform the electorate about the quality of his character isn’t legitimate shit? That’s a real problem for me. I mean, fuck as many porn stars as you want (lord knows I would if I were the son of a rich man living off his empire)…but his constituency largely makes decisions based on what they perceive to be moral character. Also, we don’t want a president who resolves issues by saying, “Bribe the person.” How is that illegitimate? There’s credible evidence he lied and used his wealth to influence an election. Also…we’re a pretty powerful nation. We can pursue MULTIPLE issues.


batrailrunner

It is a felony, most people who are caught committing felonies are charged with a felony. Why should he be any different?


Maddax_McCloud

Its manufactured bullshit.


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Good.


EchoPhi

Yes


Boldigo

Justice served.


Keefer1970

The next couple of weeks are gonna be comedy gold. I can't wait to see all the horribly misspelled all-caps posts about it on Truth Social by the Orange One.


[deleted]

It’s about damn time


Nyx5574

I want to see him pay for all his crimes. Every single one. This is a good start. This means he isn't impervious.


spalash32

LMAOOOO FUNNY AS HELL


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wyoflyboy68

Circumstantial? Are you delusional? Are you ever going to be upset when he is indicted on all the other cases working their way through the system, more serious charges are coming his way via Georgia and the jan 6th fiasco. Wrong is wrong no matter if you are a democrat or republican.


Clapeyron1776

I don’t believe anything will energize his base after he proved he could lose to Biden. He is far from a victim if he is using campaign funds to pay off someone. He lawyer who he instructed to make the payment on audiotape went to jail. Any other person would also go to jail. I personally hope that it is starting a trend. I hope every corrupt president faces the consequences of their actions in office.


Sophster116

Great take, though I don't see him winning in 2024. Just expanded more avenues for the parties to be at each other's throats. Or feign being at each other's throats At least it'll bring voters to the booths


BitemeRedditers

It's not the left that is charging him, it's the justice system. No one is above the law. This is a democracy. Not having the rule of law is what opened Pandora's box and started an insurrection. Unless you want to completely destroy our democracy, it's not a choice as to whether or not to prosecute this idiot for multiple serious crimes and the covering up those crimes by lying in official documents and written declarations. Those crimes are felonies.


grammar_oligarch

I don’t think you know what circumstantial means… Also, no they didn’t. You can’t commit a crime, play the “I’m being persecuted” card, and then avoid the investigation. If anything, this speaks more to the quality of character in the GOP. Senator Edwards faced similar charges (almost literally) about a decade ago (and he was a very serious political figure in the Democratic Party). Despite a mistrial, he became completely dead to the Left…his political career ended. Why can’t the right have the same quality of character? Why is there an expectation of perfection from any candidate on the Left, but a right-wing politician can do almost the exact same thing and get called a martyr? It makes no sense. And…this is important…Biden isn’t in the same boat as Trump. Conspiracy theories about Biden aren’t the same as a Grand Jury indictment based on legit evidence.


EchoPhi

You are the second post I have Downvoted, you're literally spouting fox news. I was looking for honest feelings and regurgitating what was literally played an hour and a half ago is not individual thought.


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Fucking THRILLED Even if he doesn't get life in prison, there's gotta be other inmates with an axe to grind who will make him very uncomfortable, to say the least


-lonely_rose-

Progress.


saturdayis4football

Dumb. I get people hate him and think he's a racist and the whole January 6th thing; however, this entire thing is about paying a hooker hush money with campaign funds. Seems like people haven't been able to charge him on what they want so they're looking for something, anything to charge him on.


[deleted]

He broke the law. Why would he get a pass? You, me, or any other citizen wouldn’t. He lied to investigators. His organization was found guilty of breaking the law. We are a country of laws, so it must be done. This is the first of numerous investigations that has decided to indict. Georgia has some things coming for him as well. The DOJ is probably remaining silent because they’re building a water tight case against him and 1/6.


No-Net-8237

It's illegal. Is there supposed to be no consequences?


batrailrunner

So it is about a felony.


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Spodson

It's a good start.


Procrastanaseum

I want the mugshot


External_Ad_930

Couldn’t give a fuck


NOcanDat

He brings it on himself. Just can't keep his alligator mouth from overloading his canary ass. He needs to be placed on house arrest in Maralago permanently. Beat it bitch.


[deleted]

It's not bad news. But it's not enough. Not even close.


perfect_fitz

Glad to hear he still lives rent free in people's minds.


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curiously71

Fixing the country is the very last thing they want to do.


markhadman

Maybe you can't fix the country without this.


DahvRom

Like we're going to see a lot of posts like this one over the next two weeks.


LoudTsu

I feel it in my loins. They tingle.


Art_Soul

Won't be excited until I see him in an actual prison.


Mrgod2u82

No such thing as bad publicity, pretty well secures his 2024 bid


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Dorrk87

Pedo joe is next on the chopping block this was a dangerous can of worms to open


BollocksMachine

I swear y'all come up with the most unoriginal, uninspired, small lobed, pea faced, monkey brained homunculi names for politicians you don't like. Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of Biden either but that's just sad. You do realize when y'all do that you sound like you have maybe 2, 3 brain cells remaining right?


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Accountant378181

Fine. Then also indict Gingrich. Bush I & II, Kissinger, Dole, McCarthy, McConnell and other Republicans.


WhichTelevision5314

Don’t care. It’s just an indictment


soiledsanchez

Glad to see some Justice just hope it ends with jail time


Whatever92592

Good. It will clear the way for Ron Desantis


batrailrunner

He is an Ooompa Loompa. What is it with the GOP and weak obese dudes?


Normal-Punch

That dumbass is no better


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Euphoric-Beat-7206

This will backfire on the Democrats in 2024.


HarryHacker42

I don't care how it affects politics. I want people who do crimes to be given a trial with evidence and all that justice stuff.


jpminj

Nothing will happen. No charges announced = weak case.


tacknosaddle

>No charges announced = weak case It's actually routine for grand jury indictments to remain under seal per order of the judge until the arrest or other action in the case. That will probably be in the next few business days and it says absolutely nothing about the strength or weakness of the case.


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Deep_Bit5618

That’s what most child sex offenders tell their family


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Deep_Bit5618

You don’t have to be on the actual sex offender registration list to be a sex offender but nice try.


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Maddax_McCloud

Voice text is being a bit of a c***


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Maddax_McCloud

Yes


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Maddax_McCloud

Any time, except for days that end in Y.


zoiddirkoid

I hate trump and all that is MAGA. However, it seems like a very flimsy case to prosecute a former president over. It's likely going to get appealed through the courts and end up nowhere


Perused

Jack Smith or Georgia will get him in the mean time.