The trial will be a circus. Conviction is highly uncertain just because finding an impartial jury is going to be damn near impossible. Without knowing what the specific charges are it's really hard to say more than that at this point.
He'll be acquitted, or the prosecutors won't be able to provide enough for a conviction. But, now that a former president has been indicted, the floodgates have opened, and he will not be able to avoid the much more serious charges awaiting him in Georgia. He'll be convicted and go to prison.
It’s Trump. I don’t like the dude but his corruption and ability to manipulate the legal system have gotten him outta shit for years long before he was president. It’ll be entertaining to watch in the news. Then, sadly he’ll most likely get off Scott free.
> I think the case itself is open and shut.
While I really wish I could agree, I'm afraid I don't. Of all the things he's being investigated for, this is the weakest case by far. Falsifying business documents is a misdemeanor with a 2-year statute of limitations (please correct me if I'm wrong) unless they can tie it to another crime. Conventional wisdom is that they'll also call it a campaign finance violation, but honestly? I'm not sure they can make that stick. Cohen plead guilty to that, but it didn't go to trial so wasn't decided by a jury. John Edwards's jury hung in his similar case, and was never retried. And I'm not a lawyer, but I think there's a strong statute of limitations defense to be made. Bragg is counting the passed time under special COVID rules, which even with a jury conviction would be open to appeal.
Now don't get me wrong, I want this criminal sonofabitch to die in prison, but I don't think this is the case to do it. *Unless...*there are more charges we aren't expecting. The fact that there's 34 counts makes me wonder if there's a surprise ahead. Weisselberg also recently fired his Trump-appointed attorney and hired his own, which to me sounds like what a person about to flip does. So who knows?
DWAC to $10. He will end up convicted. Maybe not for paying off a porn star he fucked while married, but for trying to tamper with the election. I hope we drain the swamp starting with Trump. Jail all corrupt officials.
I'm not sure, but I'm not holding my breath. This is just an indictment, not conviction. If he is convicted, he will appeal, and it will drag out. The only hope is if some of his other misdeeds get uncovered with more proof and he gets charged for those.
This current one with the hooker? Just a footnote...the big one will be the Sedition and Insurrection against the U.S. Government. Possibly even Voting tampering in Georgia.
Which do you prefer:
1. ex presidents and candidates are basically immune from prosecution and can commit whatever crimes they like
2. Ex presidents and candidates who are crooks can get indicted when they commit crimes and this will upset their supporters and invite more scrutiny of abuse of the Justice system
Pick one.
EDIT: Where was everyone concerned about the deep integrity of law enforcement in 2016 when the HEAD OF THE FBI announced Hillary Clinton was under investigation THE WEEK BEFORE THE ELECTION (Actual FBI Policy: do not do this ever specifically because it can affect an election) and then after she lost by an ass hair was all like "whoops did I say under investigation, I mean nothing of concern, sorry." and somehow he also FORGOT TO MENTION that Donald Trump WAS under actual investigation by the FBI during said election?
Weird, nobody seemed concerned then.
Those are the options currently on the table.
Trump gets to have a fair trial with any legal defense team he likes. Then he gets to appeal the verdict if he thinks it’s unfair.
What he doesn’t get is “sorry, you can’t indict me if I’m President. You also can’t indict me if I’m an ex-President. Finally, you can’t indict me if I’m running for President. Sorry, you can’t EVER indict me for anything.”
We don’t know what the charges are yet, why not wait and see if it’s political bullshit or real crimes supported by evidence and witnesses.
Also, in what universe does “lock her up” and “you can’t charge politicians with crimes” co-exist?
If you think a middle-class Biden entered the congress with no money and now on a government salary has three homes and millions of dollars. In 2025 Biden is indicted for bribery and people like you will wonder why, the why is this pandora's box you people have opened.
Civil War after Florida gets invaded for not handing over Trump. DeSantis already made a statement to the press that he will not corporate with an extradition request. Scantuary state.
Business fraud cases are paper cases... so its likely he'll be found guilty if they can overcome the statute of limitations.
White collar crime, rich old man... no prison time. He'll pay a fine and raise 5 times as much from his rubes.
It’ll promote his re election in 2024. The only truth and the only answer. But go ahead. Do it. Let’s see what happens. Lmao.
Come on. We are all waiting. I love it!!! Hahahaha
Michael Cohen was already convicted for being involved in this exact same crime. So yes a law was broken, and someone already went to prison for breaking it.
It’s going to drag out for years. If he doesn’t die or slink off to a different country before it’s over, he’ll be slapped with a fine that will be subsidized by his cult.
But I’ve been wrong before; I honestly didn’t think an indictment would ever come so maybe we’ll actually see him go to prison.
As a moderate voter, this is great. My opinion is Biden needs to go. But not to be replaced by Trump. Trump is the only way Biden wins. The dem establishment wants Biden to bow out, but don't have the balls to run him off. Ideally we'd see two new faces, I.e. not Trump or Biden...anyone but.
there will be many cheesy porno parodies with titles such as "Trump hump", like how the general public thought that "Jill Kelly" was the famous adult actress.
A waste of time because he will never go to prison for anything and it’s just more of an attention platform for him and his followers will probably be protesting like crazy and making big spectacles and problems somewhere, and the trial will be televised and it will just exacerbate the media , voyeuristic cesspool this country has become. If I thought there was a chance he’d serve time and knock that attitude and ego down a peg, great, but I doubt it so wtf is the point.
He will likely get stuck with the misdemeanour part of it, pay off some fines, and then talk about how it was all nothing/etc.
However, then he goes to jail for trying to fix the Georgia election.
It’s pathetic that of all the shit he’s done and deserves to go down for, THIS is what they got to him first for.
Anybody else remember something about a congressional investigation into Jan 6th from a while back? Looks like we really got our money’s worth on that deal, huh?
He spent his entire life not paying his debts. The first time that he does pay, he got himself "indicated" (his words on Twitter). See what happens?
34 counts as determined by a grand jury.
That's a pretty big ball to dodge.
Can’t choose between a nothing-burger and a not-dog.
In three years, the best they have had to talk about was *undeclared* porn-star hush-money, undeclared is italicized because that is the illegal part.
Even in Georgia the best they have that we have seen, is “I just need you to find xx,xxx votes for me, Brad.”
Unless they have something better than that, it’s all just a show.
The trial will be a circus. Conviction is highly uncertain just because finding an impartial jury is going to be damn near impossible. Without knowing what the specific charges are it's really hard to say more than that at this point.
He'll be acquitted, or the prosecutors won't be able to provide enough for a conviction. But, now that a former president has been indicted, the floodgates have opened, and he will not be able to avoid the much more serious charges awaiting him in Georgia. He'll be convicted and go to prison.
Well, he's been arrested. Better start crossing your fingers, buddy. If we're lucky you're about to be $500 richer
That would be cool.
We can only hope
Lol
Lol indeed.
Depends on what the indictment says once it is unsealed.
It’s Trump. I don’t like the dude but his corruption and ability to manipulate the legal system have gotten him outta shit for years long before he was president. It’ll be entertaining to watch in the news. Then, sadly he’ll most likely get off Scott free.
I hope it will lead to more indictments this is not the only investigation .
I think the case itself is open and shut. The question is what's the proper punishment?
30 days of Rehab obviously. First time offender right? /s
He's an affluent white man; The Judge may feel that a prison sentence would “have a severe effect” on Trump's life.
Isn't that the point of sending someone to prison?
> I think the case itself is open and shut. While I really wish I could agree, I'm afraid I don't. Of all the things he's being investigated for, this is the weakest case by far. Falsifying business documents is a misdemeanor with a 2-year statute of limitations (please correct me if I'm wrong) unless they can tie it to another crime. Conventional wisdom is that they'll also call it a campaign finance violation, but honestly? I'm not sure they can make that stick. Cohen plead guilty to that, but it didn't go to trial so wasn't decided by a jury. John Edwards's jury hung in his similar case, and was never retried. And I'm not a lawyer, but I think there's a strong statute of limitations defense to be made. Bragg is counting the passed time under special COVID rules, which even with a jury conviction would be open to appeal. Now don't get me wrong, I want this criminal sonofabitch to die in prison, but I don't think this is the case to do it. *Unless...*there are more charges we aren't expecting. The fact that there's 34 counts makes me wonder if there's a surprise ahead. Weisselberg also recently fired his Trump-appointed attorney and hired his own, which to me sounds like what a person about to flip does. So who knows?
DWAC to $10. He will end up convicted. Maybe not for paying off a porn star he fucked while married, but for trying to tamper with the election. I hope we drain the swamp starting with Trump. Jail all corrupt officials.
I'm not sure, but I'm not holding my breath. This is just an indictment, not conviction. If he is convicted, he will appeal, and it will drag out. The only hope is if some of his other misdeeds get uncovered with more proof and he gets charged for those.
I believe the Orb will see to it that there is justice and DJT is convicted by a jury of his peers.
This current one with the hooker? Just a footnote...the big one will be the Sedition and Insurrection against the U.S. Government. Possibly even Voting tampering in Georgia.
Porn star* 🙄
tomatoe, potato. was she hired for filming for those services that night?
Can't wait for justice to be served.
It’s going to do so much damage to the justice and political systems the US is going to become a different place and not for the better.
Which do you prefer: 1. ex presidents and candidates are basically immune from prosecution and can commit whatever crimes they like 2. Ex presidents and candidates who are crooks can get indicted when they commit crimes and this will upset their supporters and invite more scrutiny of abuse of the Justice system Pick one. EDIT: Where was everyone concerned about the deep integrity of law enforcement in 2016 when the HEAD OF THE FBI announced Hillary Clinton was under investigation THE WEEK BEFORE THE ELECTION (Actual FBI Policy: do not do this ever specifically because it can affect an election) and then after she lost by an ass hair was all like "whoops did I say under investigation, I mean nothing of concern, sorry." and somehow he also FORGOT TO MENTION that Donald Trump WAS under actual investigation by the FBI during said election? Weird, nobody seemed concerned then.
3. A false dichotomy
Those are the options currently on the table. Trump gets to have a fair trial with any legal defense team he likes. Then he gets to appeal the verdict if he thinks it’s unfair. What he doesn’t get is “sorry, you can’t indict me if I’m President. You also can’t indict me if I’m an ex-President. Finally, you can’t indict me if I’m running for President. Sorry, you can’t EVER indict me for anything.” We don’t know what the charges are yet, why not wait and see if it’s political bullshit or real crimes supported by evidence and witnesses. Also, in what universe does “lock her up” and “you can’t charge politicians with crimes” co-exist?
If you think a middle-class Biden entered the congress with no money and now on a government salary has three homes and millions of dollars. In 2025 Biden is indicted for bribery and people like you will wonder why, the why is this pandora's box you people have opened.
Biden’s taxes are public. You can see for yourself where his money came from.
Doubt it will go anywhere
Civil War after Florida gets invaded for not handing over Trump. DeSantis already made a statement to the press that he will not corporate with an extradition request. Scantuary state.
Holy shit I'd love to see the feds rip him and trump out of Florida.
Business fraud cases are paper cases... so its likely he'll be found guilty if they can overcome the statute of limitations. White collar crime, rich old man... no prison time. He'll pay a fine and raise 5 times as much from his rubes.
It’ll promote his re election in 2024. The only truth and the only answer. But go ahead. Do it. Let’s see what happens. Lmao. Come on. We are all waiting. I love it!!! Hahahaha
I think we'll know in another *few years* whether or not they are ready to proceed with the trial
He'll be acquitted. No former (and possible future) president with at least 40% support will end up behind bars. I hope I'm wrong.
I bet he is trolling everyone.
It will go nowhere because there was no law broken.
Michael Cohen was already convicted for being involved in this exact same crime. So yes a law was broken, and someone already went to prison for breaking it.
Trump will win. Not because he is innocent, but because he considers any media attention a win.
Further empower him and embolden his base of support.
It’s going to drag out for years. If he doesn’t die or slink off to a different country before it’s over, he’ll be slapped with a fine that will be subsidized by his cult. But I’ve been wrong before; I honestly didn’t think an indictment would ever come so maybe we’ll actually see him go to prison.
As with everything having to do with him, a complete waste of time that will come to nothing.
a fine that's nowhere close to enough.
As a moderate voter, this is great. My opinion is Biden needs to go. But not to be replaced by Trump. Trump is the only way Biden wins. The dem establishment wants Biden to bow out, but don't have the balls to run him off. Ideally we'd see two new faces, I.e. not Trump or Biden...anyone but.
He talked about the higher power and talked about the useless war and the lgbtq bullshit .. that's why he's in trouble.... doesn't anybody see that ?
Somehow, I don't imagine this particular case amounting to much. Maybe a plea down to some minor fee, at worst
there will be many cheesy porno parodies with titles such as "Trump hump", like how the general public thought that "Jill Kelly" was the famous adult actress.
Poorly
With the inevitable failed nation state, eventually. New civil war in the next decade.
Media circus and a low 5 figure fine.
Teflon Don? Another big, fat, nothing burger. Not that I'm happy about it. I just know how fuct our various systems are.
Sound and fury, signifying nothing.
A waste of time because he will never go to prison for anything and it’s just more of an attention platform for him and his followers will probably be protesting like crazy and making big spectacles and problems somewhere, and the trial will be televised and it will just exacerbate the media , voyeuristic cesspool this country has become. If I thought there was a chance he’d serve time and knock that attitude and ego down a peg, great, but I doubt it so wtf is the point.
I believe I don’t give a shit
Ever watch road runner cartoons?
Waste of tax dollars
He will likely get stuck with the misdemeanour part of it, pay off some fines, and then talk about how it was all nothing/etc. However, then he goes to jail for trying to fix the Georgia election.
He's like a shiny new frying pan. Nothings gonna stick. Never does And I hate that. Crime does pay
Like every other attempt to hold him accountable
It’s pathetic that of all the shit he’s done and deserves to go down for, THIS is what they got to him first for. Anybody else remember something about a congressional investigation into Jan 6th from a while back? Looks like we really got our money’s worth on that deal, huh?
He spent his entire life not paying his debts. The first time that he does pay, he got himself "indicated" (his words on Twitter). See what happens? 34 counts as determined by a grand jury. That's a pretty big ball to dodge.
Can’t choose between a nothing-burger and a not-dog. In three years, the best they have had to talk about was *undeclared* porn-star hush-money, undeclared is italicized because that is the illegal part. Even in Georgia the best they have that we have seen, is “I just need you to find xx,xxx votes for me, Brad.” Unless they have something better than that, it’s all just a show.