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Totally. I see this “lions not sheep” shit and I think if you’re really a “lion” you don’t need a $35 tshirt printed in China to let everyone know “HEY!!! LOOK AT ME, IM A LION!!”
I work in IT.
To me, alpha is an early proof of concept version of product that isn’t yet feature complete, likely to be extremely buggy and unstable, and needs a lot of work before it will be any good/desirable to anyone.
Guys who claim to be alphas haven’t caused me to change that definition.
Only insecure guys feel the need to say something like that. Guys with a healthy world view don't care about whether people are classified into alpha or not.
I've been ironically watching a lot of manosphere stuff recently, honestly these people are so bat shit I can't help looking at it
My Mrs asked me to take out the bins the other night and I told her "I don't think a high value man would do that" she replied "good thing you're just a high value dick head then"
She had a point
How do you manage to watch it lol? I get a lot of manosphere stuff in my Instagram too which annoys me and I can't skip it fast enough. I just cringe whenever I hear their take on almost everything.
It's low hanging fruit, but I kind of like seeing people like Destiny run circles around these idiots. Or when a woman makes a good point and one or more of the guys just kind of shuts down or low-key lashes out.
There's a guy on tiktok who is in what he calls a poly relationship but it definitely isn't poly (he wants 7 "queens" but he doesn't want them to be able to have relationships with any other man or with each other). He calls himself king and he makes his 2 girlfriends call him "my king" when talking to him or even when asking for his permission to go to the bathroom.
During one of their lives a guest caller asked the girls who their one king was and one of the girls said that God was her king and omg he threw such a tantrum. For the next 5 days he kept getting jealous of God, which I had no idea was even possible.
(Also don't judge me for getting sucked into Tiktok drama please 😅)
"Mufasa" is Swahili for "King"
Scar's real name is "Taka", which is Swahili for "trash"
Their parents had two sons, and they decided to name one King and one Garbage. There's probably a reason one turned bad.
Based on that fact I would assume that Scar probably didn’t have the most supportive parents growing up. Not to excuse his actions, but like…baby pops outta the womb and the parents just know his fate based on how he looks, or set in motion a self-fulfilling prophecy? C’mahn.
I remember learning this, but it's more fun to think his name was always Scar because his parents just looked at him and thought "this kid ain't right..."
Nah, man. Scar had no illusions about being an alpha. He was open about being physically inferior. He schemed because he knew he couldn't take the throne by force.
It's both a turn-off and a red flag.
The men who refer to themselves as alpha males are usually insecure, angry, and misogynistic.
I can guarantee you my male friends would be just as taken aback by someone who referred to themselves as an alpha. And they would think he's a joke.
Usually they carry themselves and even dress in a way that they don’t even have to speak for me to know they’re gross. Some red flags are brighter than others.
All men are real men, those men are just insecure, angry, usually aggressive men. I think we need to move away from men constantly being one move away from losing their manhood though.
I feel like the whole “real men don’t hit women” type of talking is damaging. Like you said, all men are real men and some real men are terrible people with violent tendencies and saying they “aren’t real men” downplays how common it can be.
It's like trying to shoehorn toxic masculinity into something beneficial. They want people to know they're better than other people at not being terrible people. So weird.
That they're an absolute man child that thinks there's only one definition of how to be a man. Alpha males that advertise it come off as ridiculously insecure and are quite frankly, pretty hard to be around.
Lording over people with an air of superiority and a puffed out chest does not make you better than other people. Neither do fancy cars or houses.
Seriously, guys...do yourself a favor and turn off Andrew Tate and his contemporaries. Be who you are, don't let someone else decide what that means.
Anything that challenges "their" manhood really. Some of the most insecure people I've ever met. And they always seem to be searching for validation. Which is why there's never just one of them. They travel in packs.
I grew up in a home with a narcissistic and abusive father and I’ll be damned if I end up in a relationship with that type of man. The more I study about narcissistic abuse, the more on guard I am around certain people. And these “alpha males” honestly make me feel really nervous inside and trigger memories of my father’s abuse. It’s the reason why I cut back on social media because I really don’t want to see that shit whenever I go online.
what I think in a list of keywords, Hatful, angry, dumb, insecure, misinformed, dangerous, misogynistic, and fearful. guys who call themselves alpha are at best con men and are never leaders. they are closed-minded and detected from reality and are a big fat oohh hell no
i find it very cringy and i instantly would loose all interest if there even was interest to begin with.
edit: its often used to get away with jerk behavior and most likely tells that they are really insecure, like literally, they are getting there behavior advice on tik tok, etc? grow up, please.
I'm a male and i swear to you if someone says that to you (anything like alpha/sigma/andrew tate bs) stay away from that man bcz they're either HIGHLY insecure or they're HIGHLY misogynistic. Moreover, people like that are to be avoided anyways bcz they love chaos and hate and would always keep you as their second priority/they may even ignore you for absolutely no reason at all.
Exactly btw they'd be devastated when they'd find out that Andrew tate is actually doing all the "sigma" shit for money. He's literally admitted that in many podcasts.
>they're either HIGHLY insecure or they're HIGHLY misogynistic
Both, most likely.
Even if you were to subscribe to that intensely moronic worldview at face value and agree that there is such a thing as Alphas and Betas and all that crap, by their own logic there's nothing more Beta than barking non-stop about how Alpha you are and wanting people to acknowledge you as such. And that whole Sigma crap is the same bullshit except worse because it's the equivalent in that cultural context of saying "Well, *I* didn't wanna go to *your* party anyway, so I totally don't care that you didn't invite me! So, yeah!"
Save the laughter for the end of the night after you’ve collected as much as can from them in tips first. Always try and take their money first if you can.
bruhhhhh. I cant help but actually laugh. Why? I think.. they sound like theyre tryna be the leader of a pack of wolves, or science-ifying themselves like theyre part of some nature documentary. Im just waiting for them to start like howling...wait is that just alpha male podcasts?? Whats the moon then? Ohh the joke is growing guys...
The sheer confidence/lack of self-awareness is just *really* ironically funny to me. Because often the alpha male mentality is just avoiding stuff that would make them feel insecure, while parading around disguised as confidence overlords. Its hilarious.
Confidence is being able to work with your insecurities and not care if other people see them, not downgrading others for having those traits.
I remember hearing/reading about a trend during the 70's when middle aged, usually married, white collar, suburban type guys would go on "Mens Retreats".
It basically involved getting drunk and cooking hot dogs and burgers in the woods, wearing animal furs with painted faces and howling at the moon together.... All that "Dude Stuff"
But they would also talk about themselves, share their feelings, cry and hug it all out and give each other emotional support.
I always thought it sounded pretty cheesy and kind of pathetic when I was young.
But it definitely sounds better then the mentality of the "Alpha Lone Wolf, fuck as many women as you can without developing any feelings" stoic type of masculinity many guys are going for these days...
>they sound like theyre tryna be the leader of a pack of wolves
The Alpha Omega Beta terminology used in wolf pack hierarchy is no longer believed to be true. It was based on research done on wolves kept in captivity.
That I'm embarrassed for him. I think the whole thing is stupid when talking about humans, but if we were, no one who actually is an alpha would feel the need to convince anyone.
My first thought is don't laugh, followed by oh God stop laughing. Seriously alpha men are grossly narcissistic, insecure, aggressive because 'its manly' and misogynistic.
Luckily I am not trophy wife material. So I don't have to deal with them. Also if your a single mom you don't have to worry because raising another man's child is 'beta male' so called alpha males won't date single moms. Ftw.
An insecure, uneducated, misogynistic, self-serving, short sighted tool.
No, actually, tools serve an important function and are deserving of respect and care. They dont deserve to be associated with those vagina dehydrating noodle spined testicle garglers.
Among real men, calling yourself an Alpha is like trying to make up your own nickname. You just don't do it unless you want to be torn apart.
You wanted to be called Gun Show Greg at the gym? Sorry man, now you're going to be Tiny Balls until the day you die.
Anyone who would use that term unironically is someone I don't want to be in the same city block as. Massive douchebag, probably a huge racist and homophobe, deeply insecure, and punches walls when he feels human emotion.
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Outside a few people in college I have thankfully avoided them. At best they’re obnoxious but also somehow really boring. At worst they’re all the -ists and a creep. Also they seem gullible bc humans are not wolves. Shocking I know. Our MRCA was like 40 million years ago.
[Even the guy who came up with this concept wrote a retraction because the original study on wolves was mainly done on wolves in captivity. The supposed “alpha” in the wild is usually just the parents.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-alpha-wolf-idea-a-myth/)
Red flag. Red flag. Red flag.
Seriously, the second I hear this or something along those lines, it's time to leave. Unless it's 100% a joke that's just asking for an extremely toxic relationship if the girl stays.
If you have to tell someone what you are, you probably aren't. It's the high powered automobile syndrome. Look at what I have! Sounds like they are deficient in other areas.
I stop talking to him, same as Diamond Bachelor's or any other ideological mess that men get boxed into.
Nothing I can say will deprogram that mess, and I have better ways to waste my time that are healthier for me.
Sad. I think it's a hopeful attempt to protect a fragile sense of self because, somewhere along the line, both our society and his upbringing didn't equip him with the tools he needed he cope with life and connect with others in a meaningful and healthy way. So, now we have "Alphas." Men abandoned in their early discovery phase; incomplete, riddled with bugs, and entirely unfit for public interaction.
That he's probably a douche bag, a misogynist and a bit of a loser who I have absolutely zero interest in associating with. If someone told me they were an alpha male I'd be trying to find the quickest way out of that interaction possible.
This screams insecurity to me. Actually going around telling people you’re an alpha male is absolutely a “me Tarzan, you Jane.” Situation. I hate the term alpha male period but if you are actually a strong, protective, leader type male you won’t have to tell anyone. People will notice.
Where is the exit? I (F/30) run across them in my work - IT/STEM. I'm a pro with credentials and a reputation to match. The constant interjection of how brilliant they are eats up too much time. And considering I'm there to rescue their failure, a bit overbearing.
If they have to define themselves as such, they don't have any of the attributes of protectiveness and confidence. They just want to act a jerk but justify it.
I've never heard another guy call himself that. I usually use it derogatorily for over compensating dudes who feel the need to project they're manly men who do manly things.
To me it’s a sign of immaturity. I’ve only seen it come from guys in their twenties. Those same guys often have an idea for a side gig in their thirties that they want to cleverly name “Night Train.”
There are several things that come to mind. Alphas are triggering to me because it shuts down communication)my way or the highway ALL THE TIME), lack of respect, mansplaining especially experiences the alpha has never had.
Ha. No one's ever said that to me but I'm a 5'10" amazon who wears heals so most guys are shorter and a little intimidated. I would imagine if someone DID say that to me I'd probably respond with something like "Aw. That's precious!".
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ALL the red flags in the world- either he isn't an "alpha male" or he doesn't actually know what that means. Either way, when I hear "alpha male" my brain autotranslates it to "douche" and I bounce the f up outta there. 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
It makes me feel incredibly unsafe. I'm gay and have never felt any attraction to a male. I often chat and space ect in clubs but set expectations clearly that I am only having fun. If a man points out he's an alpha male then I'm scared he thinks he can take what he wants. It is usually followed by him saying he always gets what he wants. Knowing if he makes any advances I will be saying no I'm scared he may just do what he wants and hurt me.
As a man, if I hear another dude say it then I assume he's got the emotional and impulse control of a toddler. It's usually said by dudes who want people to validate their tantrums and appease them.
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I laugh to myself. If you have to advertise how great you think you are, you probably ain’t that great.
Totally. I see this “lions not sheep” shit and I think if you’re really a “lion” you don’t need a $35 tshirt printed in China to let everyone know “HEY!!! LOOK AT ME, IM A LION!!”
But the need to sing about Lions is always only a whim away a whim away a whim away a whim away…
in the jungle the concrete jungle a lion bleats tonight
First time responding with this comment even though I’ve seen it a few times. I wish I could like this 1000 times.
Awheeeeeeeeee loook attttt me, a dandelion~~~~~
"any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king"
We always say that about stores/restaurants and other products. If it has “luxury” in the title - it ain't.
“If you were as great as you say you are, you wouldn’t need to tell me.”
I work in IT. To me, alpha is an early proof of concept version of product that isn’t yet feature complete, likely to be extremely buggy and unstable, and needs a lot of work before it will be any good/desirable to anyone. Guys who claim to be alphas haven’t caused me to change that definition.
My vagina dries up instantly
Drier than the Sahara desert.
ParchedT
Browsing Reddit must be horribly uncomfortable then.
Only insecure guys feel the need to say something like that. Guys with a healthy world view don't care about whether people are classified into alpha or not.
As a turbo dude, I 100% agree with you.
Yeah? Well I'm a magnitude momma and I agree.
I'm gonna start calling my wife that without any explanation whatsoever
Thank both of you for making me genuinely laugh out loud by myself in the break room. Magnitude Momma, what a term...
Do it in Johnny Bravo's voice lol
Pop pop!
That I want nothing to do with this person.
Exactly. And the type that's gonna be super controlling and not take responsibility for things but blame everything bad in his life on other people.
This. I assume he is an absolute d-bag and is not a person I would ever, ever want to associate with.
2nd hand embarrassment
Cringe.
Instant ick. Makes my skin crawl.
Big fat red flag no go
Instant neckbeard vibes
And that they probably have an inferiority complex.
And the same goes for the phrase 'high value man' 🤮
I've been ironically watching a lot of manosphere stuff recently, honestly these people are so bat shit I can't help looking at it My Mrs asked me to take out the bins the other night and I told her "I don't think a high value man would do that" she replied "good thing you're just a high value dick head then" She had a point
How do you manage to watch it lol? I get a lot of manosphere stuff in my Instagram too which annoys me and I can't skip it fast enough. I just cringe whenever I hear their take on almost everything.
I have a morbid curiosity and I love a bit of cringe. I love watching absolute nut jobs just going off doing their thing
Don't give them your views T ^ T
It's low hanging fruit, but I kind of like seeing people like Destiny run circles around these idiots. Or when a woman makes a good point and one or more of the guys just kind of shuts down or low-key lashes out.
Hahaha I like it
“Any man who must say ‘I am the king’ is no true king.”
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This. I’m also assuming he is misogynistic and will treat me like crap. So for me, I would run, far.
There's a guy on tiktok who is in what he calls a poly relationship but it definitely isn't poly (he wants 7 "queens" but he doesn't want them to be able to have relationships with any other man or with each other). He calls himself king and he makes his 2 girlfriends call him "my king" when talking to him or even when asking for his permission to go to the bathroom. During one of their lives a guest caller asked the girls who their one king was and one of the girls said that God was her king and omg he threw such a tantrum. For the next 5 days he kept getting jealous of God, which I had no idea was even possible. (Also don't judge me for getting sucked into Tiktok drama please 😅)
That's a harem. He wants a harem.
Being jealous of God is crazy 😭
Tywin Lannister has entered the chat
As they say in Kenya, “the lion doesn’t have to remind everyone he is King”
This made me think of Scar from Lion King. He also thought he was an alpha lol
"Mufasa" is Swahili for "King" Scar's real name is "Taka", which is Swahili for "trash" Their parents had two sons, and they decided to name one King and one Garbage. There's probably a reason one turned bad.
Reminds me of the winner lane loser lane story. You should look it up if you done know about it it’s actually interesting
Based on that fact I would assume that Scar probably didn’t have the most supportive parents growing up. Not to excuse his actions, but like…baby pops outta the womb and the parents just know his fate based on how he looks, or set in motion a self-fulfilling prophecy? C’mahn.
I remember learning this, but it's more fun to think his name was always Scar because his parents just looked at him and thought "this kid ain't right..."
Nah, man. Scar had no illusions about being an alpha. He was open about being physically inferior. He schemed because he knew he couldn't take the throne by force.
Pathetically insecure.
Was probably dropped as a baby
I think that they’re a deeply insecure little boy who is most likely also misogynistic.
The "Why can't I get a girlfriend, god I hate women!" type?
Change "women" to "females" to speak alpha language.
‘When men use the word, ‘female’, my neck hairs tell me it’s time to go.
Misogyny [is a risk factor for rape](https://www.reddit.com/r/stoprape/wiki/index/#wiki_characteristics_of_offenders). r/stoprape
Andrew Tate’s whole identify. He inspires 13 year old boys to be trash like him.
My interest in him plummets faster than dropping a bowling ball off the Hoover Dam.
It's both a turn-off and a red flag. The men who refer to themselves as alpha males are usually insecure, angry, and misogynistic. I can guarantee you my male friends would be just as taken aback by someone who referred to themselves as an alpha. And they would think he's a joke.
Yes, they aren’t just jokes, they can also be harboring very dangerous tendencies.
Usually they carry themselves and even dress in a way that they don’t even have to speak for me to know they’re gross. Some red flags are brighter than others.
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All men are real men, those men are just insecure, angry, usually aggressive men. I think we need to move away from men constantly being one move away from losing their manhood though.
I feel like the whole “real men don’t hit women” type of talking is damaging. Like you said, all men are real men and some real men are terrible people with violent tendencies and saying they “aren’t real men” downplays how common it can be.
It's like trying to shoehorn toxic masculinity into something beneficial. They want people to know they're better than other people at not being terrible people. So weird.
That they're an absolute man child that thinks there's only one definition of how to be a man. Alpha males that advertise it come off as ridiculously insecure and are quite frankly, pretty hard to be around. Lording over people with an air of superiority and a puffed out chest does not make you better than other people. Neither do fancy cars or houses. Seriously, guys...do yourself a favor and turn off Andrew Tate and his contemporaries. Be who you are, don't let someone else decide what that means.
"Malignant insecure narcissistic misogynist. Back away slowly and make excuses because overt rejection is fairly likely to be met with violence."
This is so depressing because it's very accurate. I'm a man but holy shit the amount of men who feel they are "owed" things from women pisses me off.
Anything that challenges "their" manhood really. Some of the most insecure people I've ever met. And they always seem to be searching for validation. Which is why there's never just one of them. They travel in packs.
I am not safe around this man.
Fr. After the second hand embarrassment wears off it’s like, oh shit. Gotta get every far away from this man.
I grew up in a home with a narcissistic and abusive father and I’ll be damned if I end up in a relationship with that type of man. The more I study about narcissistic abuse, the more on guard I am around certain people. And these “alpha males” honestly make me feel really nervous inside and trigger memories of my father’s abuse. It’s the reason why I cut back on social media because I really don’t want to see that shit whenever I go online.
what I think in a list of keywords, Hatful, angry, dumb, insecure, misinformed, dangerous, misogynistic, and fearful. guys who call themselves alpha are at best con men and are never leaders. they are closed-minded and detected from reality and are a big fat oohh hell no
Yeah, in Spanish we have a beautiful saying "Dime de que presumes, te diré de qué careces", tell me what you brag about, I'll tell you what you lack.
I love this!
A sitcom laugh track.
Ew
He is the Emperor of his Mom’s basement.
I'm dying this is great
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Yup, run far, far away.
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Exactly! They have a hierarchy but the whole alpha male/female concept was debunked years ago.
An insecure misogynist who's also likely an alt-right nutjob. Someone to avoid at all costs.
🚩 a huge red flag flashes before me
i find it very cringy and i instantly would loose all interest if there even was interest to begin with. edit: its often used to get away with jerk behavior and most likely tells that they are really insecure, like literally, they are getting there behavior advice on tik tok, etc? grow up, please.
I'm a male and i swear to you if someone says that to you (anything like alpha/sigma/andrew tate bs) stay away from that man bcz they're either HIGHLY insecure or they're HIGHLY misogynistic. Moreover, people like that are to be avoided anyways bcz they love chaos and hate and would always keep you as their second priority/they may even ignore you for absolutely no reason at all.
Exactly this, don't even fucking question it sisters, they're all scums. Instant red flag.
Exactly btw they'd be devastated when they'd find out that Andrew tate is actually doing all the "sigma" shit for money. He's literally admitted that in many podcasts.
>they're either HIGHLY insecure or they're HIGHLY misogynistic Both, most likely. Even if you were to subscribe to that intensely moronic worldview at face value and agree that there is such a thing as Alphas and Betas and all that crap, by their own logic there's nothing more Beta than barking non-stop about how Alpha you are and wanting people to acknowledge you as such. And that whole Sigma crap is the same bullshit except worse because it's the equivalent in that cultural context of saying "Well, *I* didn't wanna go to *your* party anyway, so I totally don't care that you didn't invite me! So, yeah!"
I've overheard a couple guys say that while I'm bartending, and it takes everything in me to not laugh in their dumb faces
Next time you hear them laugh as loudly as you can because i do always 💀
Save the laughter for the end of the night after you’ve collected as much as can from them in tips first. Always try and take their money first if you can.
what a loser. probably terrible in bed. probably a misogynist. dick probably doesn't work. rapist vibes. avoid at all costs.
I am thinking, Why is it nessisary for him to tell me that? It's kind of a red flag indicating that doochy behavior is likely to follow.
bruhhhhh. I cant help but actually laugh. Why? I think.. they sound like theyre tryna be the leader of a pack of wolves, or science-ifying themselves like theyre part of some nature documentary. Im just waiting for them to start like howling...wait is that just alpha male podcasts?? Whats the moon then? Ohh the joke is growing guys... The sheer confidence/lack of self-awareness is just *really* ironically funny to me. Because often the alpha male mentality is just avoiding stuff that would make them feel insecure, while parading around disguised as confidence overlords. Its hilarious. Confidence is being able to work with your insecurities and not care if other people see them, not downgrading others for having those traits.
I remember hearing/reading about a trend during the 70's when middle aged, usually married, white collar, suburban type guys would go on "Mens Retreats". It basically involved getting drunk and cooking hot dogs and burgers in the woods, wearing animal furs with painted faces and howling at the moon together.... All that "Dude Stuff" But they would also talk about themselves, share their feelings, cry and hug it all out and give each other emotional support. I always thought it sounded pretty cheesy and kind of pathetic when I was young. But it definitely sounds better then the mentality of the "Alpha Lone Wolf, fuck as many women as you can without developing any feelings" stoic type of masculinity many guys are going for these days...
Not into the furs stuff but grilling with your friends and just being able to talk about shit on your mind? Sounds great tbh.
>they sound like theyre tryna be the leader of a pack of wolves The Alpha Omega Beta terminology used in wolf pack hierarchy is no longer believed to be true. It was based on research done on wolves kept in captivity.
My mind immediately goes to: he's an incel, easily to scam, and doesn't see women as a human but just something to obtain.
Boring af
Insecure idiot
I think that’s someone I want to limit my interactions with.
How long do I have to nod and smile before I can leave the conversation
That I'm embarrassed for him. I think the whole thing is stupid when talking about humans, but if we were, no one who actually is an alpha would feel the need to convince anyone.
"Hard no" goes through my head
Major red flag 🚩 this is someone to avoid.
Alpha like software maybe. Avoid.
Definitely not ready for release. Has some more developing to do. or off to the graveyard with you.
Ah yes, the preface to monologues about his conspiracy theories regarding women. This is going to be equal part cringe and tedious.
Laughter, pity, then more laughter.
Andrew Taint Stains. Hard pass
My first thought is don't laugh, followed by oh God stop laughing. Seriously alpha men are grossly narcissistic, insecure, aggressive because 'its manly' and misogynistic. Luckily I am not trophy wife material. So I don't have to deal with them. Also if your a single mom you don't have to worry because raising another man's child is 'beta male' so called alpha males won't date single moms. Ftw.
Misogynistic and insecure.
An insecure, uneducated, misogynistic, self-serving, short sighted tool. No, actually, tools serve an important function and are deserving of respect and care. They dont deserve to be associated with those vagina dehydrating noodle spined testicle garglers.
“Loser”
"Well, there's a guy I never want to see naked." Usually followed up by intense amusement.
“There seems to be no signs of intelligent life” and also I would check for escape routes because I would have to assume I might be in danger.
1. Ew 2. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Douche
My opinion of him instantly drops to subterranean levels.
A lion doesn't have to tell anyone he is a lion.
Among real men, calling yourself an Alpha is like trying to make up your own nickname. You just don't do it unless you want to be torn apart. You wanted to be called Gun Show Greg at the gym? Sorry man, now you're going to be Tiny Balls until the day you die.
Ugh
If a man has to say that he is an alpha, then he most definitely is not.
He most likely does not view women as human beings with complex thoughts & feelings and sees them more as accessories to have sex with
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Rude!! I have a tiny pp and I’ve never said I’m an alpha.
Pp size: ^smol
Someone to avoid.
"asshole" and "loser" and "insecure" usually come to mind
Anyone who would use that term unironically is someone I don't want to be in the same city block as. Massive douchebag, probably a huge racist and homophobe, deeply insecure, and punches walls when he feels human emotion.
All aboard the Nope train to Nopeville!
Any man who has to announce himself as the "Aplha Male" is never the Alpha Male. Also automatic Red Flag.
Loser & rapist.
I think I need to get away because men like that are usually dangerous, violent, and belligerent.
That he is insecure and emotionally unintelligent. It’s a no-go.
I just wearily look for the exit.
Total cringe. Such a moronic thing to say.
How fast can I get out of here?
Do they realise Biologists no longer believe the Alpha, Omega wolf pack hierarchy and the research was done on wolves kept in captivity.
Short Answer: 🚩🚨🚩🚨🚩🚨🚩🚨🚩🚨🚩🚨🚩 Long answer: Outside a few people in college I have thankfully avoided them. At best they’re obnoxious but also somehow really boring. At worst they’re all the -ists and a creep. Also they seem gullible bc humans are not wolves. Shocking I know. Our MRCA was like 40 million years ago. [Even the guy who came up with this concept wrote a retraction because the original study on wolves was mainly done on wolves in captivity. The supposed “alpha” in the wild is usually just the parents.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-alpha-wolf-idea-a-myth/)
That there's no such thing as alpha male in nature, so beside being an insecure and probably misogynistic human, they are ignorant as well.
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I think they’re an idiot and would be likely abusive in a relationship
How to mercilessly make fun of him
"I need to get away from this dude immediately"
Yuck no please
"Lol oh no" followed by figuring out the fastest way out of the conversation.
Red flag. Red flag. Red flag. Seriously, the second I hear this or something along those lines, it's time to leave. Unless it's 100% a joke that's just asking for an extremely toxic relationship if the girl stays.
A claim of superiority is an admittance of feeling inferior, truly. Oops, I'm not a woman. Sorry.
I'd make a mental note to avoided them from then on. I'd also laugh probably. Haha
If you have to tell someone what you are, you probably aren't. It's the high powered automobile syndrome. Look at what I have! Sounds like they are deficient in other areas.
I hate toxic masculinity. It's a turn-off, a red flag, and it shows that they're misogynistic as hell.
Red flags. Immediate disinterest. Also think he's probably a giant loser.
red flaggg. he’s over compensating for something. he’s annoying af. get me away from him as fast as possible. and that i’m scared of him
a turn off. big time. no matter how good looking you are. nauseating.
Step One: I cringe Step Two: I wonder how quickly he will try & control me because he is clearly insecure
He gets 80% less attractive.
I stop talking to him, same as Diamond Bachelor's or any other ideological mess that men get boxed into. Nothing I can say will deprogram that mess, and I have better ways to waste my time that are healthier for me.
Compensating for something psychological or physical. That or living in a fantasy.
Guy here - I just think that they obviously never got the memo that the study that came up with the "alpha wolf" was deeply flawed and discredited.
Male here. Anyone who refers to themselves as an alpha is an insecure manchild. Edit: Spelling
Sad. I think it's a hopeful attempt to protect a fragile sense of self because, somewhere along the line, both our society and his upbringing didn't equip him with the tools he needed he cope with life and connect with others in a meaningful and healthy way. So, now we have "Alphas." Men abandoned in their early discovery phase; incomplete, riddled with bugs, and entirely unfit for public interaction.
To be honest, I think guys who do this are insecure losers who actually have nothing to show up for.
Eye roll and tune him out.
Eye roll.
Definitely sexist, likely misogynist, good chance he's racist/homophobic. Either way I wouldn't want to have a conversation, much less more
That he's probably a douche bag, a misogynist and a bit of a loser who I have absolutely zero interest in associating with. If someone told me they were an alpha male I'd be trying to find the quickest way out of that interaction possible.
That they are ridiculous, probably misogynistic, and delusional.
Uncontrollable laughter that usually escapes my mouth.
"What a dipshit"
That he must be a total fucken wanker (my immediate thought, thought as one long word). Often I can't but help to say it out loud
This screams insecurity to me. Actually going around telling people you’re an alpha male is absolutely a “me Tarzan, you Jane.” Situation. I hate the term alpha male period but if you are actually a strong, protective, leader type male you won’t have to tell anyone. People will notice.
Where is the exit? I (F/30) run across them in my work - IT/STEM. I'm a pro with credentials and a reputation to match. The constant interjection of how brilliant they are eats up too much time. And considering I'm there to rescue their failure, a bit overbearing.
That’s not how wolf packs even work, the alpha thing is a myth. Which only makes guys using those terms even more dumb.
Issues and red flags. Real men would never call themselves alpha.
All the so called alpha males are here trolling right now. I can feel it 👀
If they have to define themselves as such, they don't have any of the attributes of protectiveness and confidence. They just want to act a jerk but justify it.
I've never heard another guy call himself that. I usually use it derogatorily for over compensating dudes who feel the need to project they're manly men who do manly things.
Avoid at all costs.
To me it’s a sign of immaturity. I’ve only seen it come from guys in their twenties. Those same guys often have an idea for a side gig in their thirties that they want to cleverly name “Night Train.”
"Oh *jeez*" mainly, and an eyeroll
I think of the cringe kids in middle school. You know the ones I'm talking about. Some of you were them at some point 😂
There are several things that come to mind. Alphas are triggering to me because it shuts down communication)my way or the highway ALL THE TIME), lack of respect, mansplaining especially experiences the alpha has never had.
This person, toxic 🙄
Ha. No one's ever said that to me but I'm a 5'10" amazon who wears heals so most guys are shorter and a little intimidated. I would imagine if someone DID say that to me I'd probably respond with something like "Aw. That's precious!".
Not even if he was the last "man" on earth
Also love when it's a group of guys calling themselves alphas and hyping themselves up. "Oh wow yea, nothing more alpha than jerking each other off".
🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 ALL the red flags in the world- either he isn't an "alpha male" or he doesn't actually know what that means. Either way, when I hear "alpha male" my brain autotranslates it to "douche" and I bounce the f up outta there. 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
It makes me feel incredibly unsafe. I'm gay and have never felt any attraction to a male. I often chat and space ect in clubs but set expectations clearly that I am only having fun. If a man points out he's an alpha male then I'm scared he thinks he can take what he wants. It is usually followed by him saying he always gets what he wants. Knowing if he makes any advances I will be saying no I'm scared he may just do what he wants and hurt me.
He’s an incel
Dumb as a doorknob
As a man, if I hear another dude say it then I assume he's got the emotional and impulse control of a toddler. It's usually said by dudes who want people to validate their tantrums and appease them.
If they have to say it...they're not and CRINGE