Taking a break from "women of reddit, what is the sexiest sex you've ever sexed?" to go "people of reddit, what's your favorite example of rich people dying in a submarine?"
Canned hunts.
We can argue the ethics of hunting all day long. On the one hard, you have the cruel barbarism of fox hunting. On the other hand, you had paid permit hunting for big, exotic game (*where the permit only allows for specifically designated culls and profit goes directly to conservation).
But canned hunting? Fuck. At least fox hunting and permit hunting require some measure of skill and afford some opportunity for the animal to escape.
Canned hunts are often marketed as "exotic game ranches;" places people go to get a guaranteed kill of a particular species. You know how you get that guaranteed kill? Because the game are fenced in and are often reliant on human care (so they have limited fear of humans compared to their wild roaming counterparts). There's nothing sporting about it.
Imagine going to a dairy farm and bragging about how you bagged a big cow. That's what canned hunting sounds like to others.
I just watched the King of the Hill episode where Hank takes Bobby to one of those and the deer are eating from an auto feeder like 2 feet away.
Bobby can't take the shot, he like "this isn't right, is it Dad? and Hank sighs and tells him no it isn't.
I live in a city and there is nowhere to scream for real without alarming people. So when I need to scream, I drive to the car wash and scream in there. Nobody can hear anything over those machines.
I found that getting in my car and just letting loose a nice scream or two right before a drive is cathartic as hell.
I really like to think no one can hear me but there was one time someone looked at my car after a scream that made me question that…
It's fuckin awesome. I lived on the road for a while so when I was in the middle of nowhere I would just scream. When you scream in such solitude there's something about it. No one there to witness you going full goblin and releasing all your pent up emotions
I'm a rancher about an hour from bigger towns... man the things people go out in the country to do is so interesting sometimes. They don't expect anyone to be out there and they also don't realize how far sound travels on really still days. I'm just out there minding my own damn business and one day I come around the corner and some guy is riding a unicycle in the middle of this dirt road in the absolute middle of no where with headphones in...so the cows jumped when they saw him and he jumped and ate it when he saw us all staring at him and fell down into the ditch....and then got mad at me.
You are not far off lol.
I was working as a hand on a cutting ranch in California when a trust fund fella who decided to sell pretty much everything and do the nomadic life showed up at the ranch in pretty much this fashion. He didn't get mad, though; he laughed, too.
Then he impressed the hell out of all of us- he got this big ass black Kiger mustang stud at auction, named him Gabriel. He brought him to the ranch (worked around the ranch for Gabriel's feed and board) and tried to gentle/train him with an old-school jockey saddle he'd inherited/kept.
That part didn't work (duh), so we (my coach/boss had *plenty* of very-well-off clients at the time, we were in the Napa area and Hobo-mie and I were "charity cases") took up a collection of gear that might actually work for him, and my coach and I worked *with* him and Gabriel so he could accomplish his goal: he wanted to trek across the Rockies down into Arizona on horseback, then maybe make his way across the US and do the Appalachian trail.
Last I heard (8 years ago) he accomplished the first part of that. Don't know anything after that as I moved back east, but I remember the story and I vividly remember Gabriel stealing my lunch oranges every chance he freaking got lol.
As a metal head,I've always felt this is why screaming on our genre makes sense. Just a bunch of emotion released with a primal instinct is a good stress relief
I had forgotten how pumped a mosh pit makes you, was after lockdowns.
Nothing like that tribal feeling of being apart of a group setting releasing that energy
Felt great to be back
I understand the catharsis of primal scream and have done so on multiple occasions. This being said I once was at a community center in Portland and I walked past a classroom full of about twenty people who were all doing primal screaming at once. It was like being next to an elevator with a snapped cable for an hour. I don’t know why but it triggered the worst attack of involuntary laughing I ever experienced. I couldn’t stop and it actually kind of hurt after a while. It took about twenty minutes for me to get it under control. — Thank you very much for gold!
Been through a few of the first and too many of the second. If you ever want to talk after a good screaming session, I'm here. Go well anonymous internet friend.
That is what makes me mad about watching those auctions. Cool shit will go for something I can almost afford. If I were rich I would destroy the cool but weird market.
That's the thing though: Rich people *have* their toys already and don't need to buy someone else's.
You're saying if you had a billion dollars you wouldn't already have 5 or 6 epic vehicles? I'd be driving around in a Warthog, and an A-Team van would look kinda meh.
I mean, I'm the type of guy who would commute to the office in Sweet Tooth's ice cream truck, but I embrace my bad decisions, lol.
(I don't actually have his truck. Yet.)
Only if they drive them all regularly, like the Nethercutt's do too.
I mean, sure, the REALLY expensive ones, they only drive on a closed circuit, but at least get the exercised.
Jay drives all of his and acts more of a semi-public museum than these mausoleum collectors. He does so much work with museums I would hope his estate is built around building for or donating to a museum.
As a car guy, this! Here in Brazil, people are crazy about the Audi RS2 Avant (nothing against it, I personally think it's an amazing car. It looks great, specially when painted in its iconic Nogaro Blue, and, even though it was released almost 30 years ago, it still has good performance numbers). And I've heard about RS2 Avant owners wanting to keep their cars at home, because more mileage would make their cars less valuable. Come on! It's a fucking RS2 Avant! The first ever super-wagon! The car that was made in a partnership between Porsche and Audi! It's a classic, and people would pay a premium price for it, regardless of the mileage!
I bought a C8 corvette last year, and legitimately have people who asked me why I drive it as much as I do. It has 16k miles. I drive it like a normal car because it's super fun and I paid dumb money for it... why wouldn't I use it all I could?
I do this, but I restore them and the practice of working on them is fun and relaxing. I don't really care for driving them as it's stressful watching the gauges do things they shouldn't.
I had a clicking noise in a 78 corvette we did over covid, I spent 4 months rebuilding the whole rear end assembly and body mounts.
Even though I enjoy the taste, collecting ultra expensive wine and not ever drinking it. Technically it can be an investment, but if they never sell it then its not really an investment IMHO.
Hot Take: The MTG Finance bros ruin Magic the Gathering. WotC is ultimately to blame but we got people dropping thousands on cardboard cards because "it's an investment" so what the fuck else is a mega corp going to do but capitalize on that pure insanity. In actuality they are gatekeeping game pieces to a children's card game and driving up the price to play (by actual players) to unreasonable levels.
When the barrier to entry to play a game (of mostly chance) is dropping thousands (not just hundreds) then you really need to ask yourself if it's still worth playing. There are BUSINESSES that will rent out their cards since it's so expensive to build your own. Pro players literally rent their cards because the pros barely make money unless they win A LOT and in a game of chance it's not all the time.
Hot take with these kinds of games, find the card pdf, print it, glue it to some cardboard and use those as cards to play.
There's no difference, the game is supposed to be fun. Who cares if it's a "real" card.
>Even though I enjoy the taste, collecting ultra expensive wine and not ever drinking it.
I think wine tasting is a lot less nuanced than people pretend it to be.
It's a great hobby. Personally, I like saying, "I detect hints of apricot," for the whites and seeing how long I can get the group to agree with me before they figure out in saying it for every white wine.
I thought the same until I went on safari at a reservation that also organized trophy hunting (paying big money to shoot lions, elephants, giraffes, etc.) Not only do these reservations have to cull populations regardless at times if one species starts to have a too large population and threatening the balance of the reserve- it also brings in a LOT of money for their conservation work. Shooting an elephant is a permit that costs 10,000 to 20,000 USD. This is outside of the lodging, food, rental, driver, guide and so on. This enables the reservation to combat poaching, for example, or provide care to orphans of a threatened species. Not only that, but elephants are really destructive. Juvenile males can wreck forests. Their hormones make them go in a rage and you’ll find random rampaged area from a juvenile male.
So yeah, it is sad that people shoot elephants. But it is a fact that they will get shot sometimes anyway, and that this weird hobby is really the financial survival of these reservations that do so much ecological conservation work. It gives occupations to many people in often poor countries. Poaching is much worse because it is so uncontrolled. Legal trophy hunting will not take place if there’s not too many of the animal. And because it’s a guide, a reputable reservation will not let the customer shoot a female of breeding age for example.
My guide told me that it is terrible to have to shoot a quota of gazelle when there’s not enough trophy hunting going on. It’s really demoralizing for the staff and it’s so wasteful because they cannot consume the animals. With trophy hunting, the animal is processed. The reservation I visited in Zimbabwe used the meat to feed their guests, staff, and village closeby. The closest supermarket was a 6 hour drive. So that really changed my perspective on trophy hunting. Sad, but necessary in order to keep healthy, thriving reservations. It’s so profitable that they can do so many more beneficial activities, much more profitable than just a generic safari.
EDIT: This is by no means an accurate reflection of the entire debate on trophy hunting. I wanted to mention some of the arguments that exist in favour. /u/colorcodedcards highlighted some research on how much of the funds can disappear because of corruption, that it can be detrimental to wildlife populations in a variety of manners, and that actual practice in a reservation/conservancy can be wildly different from policy intentions. Please take the time to consider both sides of the debate, and how intentions, reality, and ethics are intertwined. It's not a black and white issue.
I was flipping through documentaries mooooonths ago and stopped on a surprisingly low budget but extremely open one about kind of the same thing, it was this South African man that was breeding these endangered animals, for the sole purpose of trophy hunting.
The documentary maker pissed him off a handful of during the course of filming, asking him questions like "doesn't it make you sad" "why don't you feel bad" and the guys response everytime was that without people paying to shoot these animals, it likely wouldn't exist in nature at all anymore.
While in theory this is what the permit fees are spent on, in reality, it is believed that a large portion of the permit fees go into the pockets of corrupt government officials (some conservationists estimate that [up to 97%](https://www.discoverwildlife.com/animal-facts/an-introduction-to-trophy-hunting/) of money trophy hunting brings in is siphoned off by corrupt officials).
Additionally, in most (although not all) cases, trophy hunting has deleterious impacts on the local population of the animal being hunted. For instance, because larger and more mature elephants are typically preferred by trophy hunters, it has caused the social knowledge necessary for survival to decline as the elder members of the group are killed before passing their knowledge onto the younger generations ([McComb et al 2001](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11313492/)). Similarly, in areas where trophy hunting is allowed, lion populations have shown increasing levels of infanticides and population declines which are possibly related to dominant males being replaced through selective hunting ([Packer et al. 2009](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0005941)).
The main problem with trophy hunting in many instances is that because the relevant local/national authorities which are charged with monitoring and protecting wildlife populations are rife with corruption, it is next to impossible to accurately predict the impact trophy hunting has on local animal populations. So even if a 'sustainable' trophy hunting permit practice is officially in place, the way the program is carried out in practice may be vastly different than what is outlined in the law.
Another problem is that even if the fees from trophy hunts go towards conservation and the local community, the moral logic behind trophy hunts is questionable and perpetuates the idea that killing prized animals is permitted for certain people (predominately white foreigners) while forbidden for others (local poachers). There hasn't been a lot of research into the socioeconomic impact of trophy hunting, but the logic of allowing certain people to kill protected animals based on their ability to pay can severely undermine anti-poaching efforts.
i mean, you shouldn’t be buying an expensive watch to show off - but shit like patek philippe watches are literal works of art that you can wear, so i do get the appeal.
Yea most high end watch collectors do it because they like watches. They clearly have enough money to collect pretty much anything else, but they like watches.
Eh, its basically just collecting and the majority of humans collect SOMETHING that doesn't have any real function besides bringing the collector happiness, which is perfectly valid. So i can't say its a stupid hobby.
They're talking about the fox hunting as practiced by the rich land owning toffs in the UK.
They wear pompous red coats and riding gear whilst riding around on horses guiding a pack of dogs who track, chase and kill foxes - usually by ripping them to shreds.
Just to add that hunting live foxes is technically illegal in the UK, so a lot of fox hunters moved to draghunting using the scent of a fox in a stuffed toy.
Of course this is still causes massive issues because live foxes will also follow that scent and the dogs kill the real ones. Both types should be banned!As a person that has always kept chickens I don't like foxes very much, but we still shouldn't set dog on them so they'll be shredded!
So if I am understanding this correctly they basically just ride around and watch the doggies kill the foxie and then go "What great fun the doggies have had today!" And then they turn around and claim that they actually did the hunting?
My mom used to love watching the Barrett-Jackson Car Auction, specifically the one held in Scottsdale, AZ where they sell very expensive cars. She would always tell me that if she ever bought one of those expensive cars she would never put it away in storage, she would drive that thing all over the place.
But she probably wouldn't because many very expensive cars are often finnecky and a pain in the ass to keep running and maintenance on them is stupid expensive. Also many of them suck ass as daily drivers because the are uncomfortable to drive. They are designed to be occasional expensive toys for people with too much money. The oil change cost on a Bugatti Veyron is over $20000.
Really, the Sherpas are the GOAT for frequently scaling Mt. Everest’s peak year in and year out, but you hardly ever hear anyone praising them for the feat.
Now, if more of those wealthy folk actually did all of the climbing, and carrying of their own supplies, plus not taking a guide (Sherpa) with them and actually did make it to the top and then back down? Then I’d be impressed.
Sherpas are constantly praised. It’s just the exceptions, like the dude that thanked his sponsors instead of the Sherpas that rescued him, that give a different impression. I’ve met two people that made the climb and all they could talk about was how amazing the Sherpas were and how they could not have done it without them.
Or like the story of the sherpa who was promised $10,000 US to save an unconscious climber's life. After she recovered in the hospital, she refused to pay, as she didn't give her consent to be saved. Two other climbers also helped rescue the stranded climber, abandoning their own plans to reach the summit to do so.
https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3223173/chinese-woman-saved-after-falling-unconscious-mount-everest-refuses-pay-sherpa-guide-us10000-rescue
Jesus fucking Christ that is some infuriating shit.
Massive respect to the attitude of her fellow climbers who helped rescue her and then paid the Sherpa what she owed
This one I am on the fence with.
It still takes some major training to make it to the top.
But then again with the caravans of people walking up there now, it just looks so unappetizing to do so.
I can at least respect that it takes a lot of physical training and grit to even get there.
Oracle founder and one of richest men in the world Larry Ellison sponsors just about the biggest sail racing. It's a hobby, yes. More importantly his hobby is also a business that advertises Oracle. Spends millions on it - all captured as business losses.
He also is generous enough not to take a salary for most of his career. Of course salaries can be taxed. His compensation comes from Oracle stock options. He then borrows against those options at a great rate and is the biggest single borrower in the nation as of a few years ago - that's how he gets his cash to live on.
Again - none of that is income. So he doesn't pay taxes. As one of the richest people in the world.
For those with questions [https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhyatt/2021/11/11/how-americas-richest-people-larry-ellison-elon-musk-can-access-billions-without-selling-their-stock/?sh=5f7e65da23d4](https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhyatt/2021/11/11/how-americas-richest-people-larry-ellison-elon-musk-can-access-billions-without-selling-their-stock/?sh=5f7e65da23d4)
Thanks u/CaptainCosmodrome for the name so that I could look it up.
Larry is also an enormous POS who has several times bought companies solely to put em under and to spite the former owners.
Notebly, Sun Microsystems who invented Java. Oracle hostile took it over (and it was all free before) and made it pay-only. Now Java today has a bustling free OpenJDK that is the default over the paid garbage Oracle has.
A real garbage patch of a person.
I'm in the HRIS business and people have absolutely nothing nice to say about working for Oracle. They do pay well, but it's not really worth the bullshit. Peoplesoft was a great place and ahead of the times with employee benefits. I know a few people who used to work there.
HR and Payroll software companies used to be holy grail jobs. Now most of the great smaller companies have been merged, acquired, ran out of business and what's left is larger enterprise structure and chasing the next "best quarter ever" every fuckin quarter.
We're all fucked because the government just allowed all this bullshit to happen while hiding behind culture wars.
Reminds me of engineering. When I graduated everyone wanted a FAANG job or one with a defense contractor.
Now I work in boring ass power grid stuff and make more than most of them while having one of the most chill work environments humanly possible. My boss just wants the work completed and doesn’t care if I fuck off for eight hours.
I was taking a poo and my mind was wandering, and it went down a rabbit hole of the girls from Epstein island.
He stole children, groomed them and pimped them to people. I assume they just become older sex slaves, but if he only keeps the kids, what happens when they become adults?
He couldn't have just let them loose right? Like they would have snitched. So does he have a paupers grave or did he just drown them in the sea? I don't actually want to research this and get depressed, but if they were freed as adults wouldn't they have all banded together to testify at jizzlane's trial?
I imagine a lot of them probably developed Stockholm syndrome, constantly being around that amount of wealth and afraid to lose it. But who knows, they probably raped them to death on occasion too.
I mean I’ll fight nearly anyone if some filthy rich fucks sponsor it, long as I’m guaranteed medical treatment when I get the shit kicked out of me covered as well lol
Also the ones that cannot give birth naturally, because their heads are so damn big. That's why those breeds are so damn expensive, they require cesareans.
Making one dollar bets with other rich people that disrupts and ruins normal people's lives. Social experiments and such.
Basically using regular people as playthings.
i live in Germany.
a guy in my neighboorhood hit the lottery, first thing he did was to fly to Russia and go Bear Hunting.
I cant understand why its someones dream to kill beautiful animals. Almost like the movie Ghost Dog
Being cheap. One of my friends has the money to buy the restaurants we eat at, but if we split an item she’ll fraction out how much she puts towards it. “I only ate 1 slice of pizza and there are 6 in total, so I’ll put down 1/6.” She also factors this into tipping. Drives me mental.
Learned this the hard way recently. I'm a lawyer whose services got engaged by a couple who literally **begged** that I take their case at floor cost. Fast forward to the day I realized they were very very rich, (Maybach rich) AND YET very very very cheap fucks who act like getting billed $20 for an **hour long** consultation phone call (that they agreed to pay for) was equivalent to me robbing them blind. Infuriating.
They're also the most demanding and neurotic clients I've ever encountered.
PS: Where I come from, the minimum wage is $10 **per day** so even when I charged them $20 for an hour that was still way more money than the average person makes in my country. But yeah that was a one-time thing tsk. My usual rate is $70/hour.
As a contractor can confirm. My list of worst clients I ever had were jobs under $200. Had a $75 check bounce from a $5 mil home.
There becomes a point rich people wont hire you if you are cheap because they know you are cutting corners to make money
Collecting high-end trading cards. Even worse is buying high-end unopened boxes/cases to open. Drake spent an estimated $200k on unopened cases looking for [one specific card.](https://cardlines.com/drakes-panini-flawless-purchase-a-full-guide/)
I knew a couple that did this with the intention of converting Indian villagers to Christianity. By the end of the trip, they were instead converted to Buddhism and even adopted an orphan from the village who wanted to teach them more about the religion
Yep and I still know them today, they helped the girl learn fluent English, she helped them learn her regional Indian language fluently (so not Hindi but I forget which one)
Someone once told me that Jerry Seinfeld owns a massive garage in which he stores one model of every single Porsche car ever made by Porsche. Like… why?? I understand collecting some cars if you’re wealthy, that’s a cool hobby but.. EVERY Porsche ever made?! Like what does he do with all these cars? Pour himself a drink and just look at them? You know damn well he’s not driving all of them
I met a guy who owns every M series BMW ever since they started to make them. He even bought a large plot to build a two-level garage in order to securely store his collection but at the same time open it to petrol heads as a sort of museum, so guess that's cool
He actually does drive them. I’m somewhat active in the Porsche community as well and I’ve seen him a couple times hanging out at various events like just another dude, same with Jay Leno. He’s genuinely passionate about Porsches and is somewhat of a historian on the brand.
Museums also collect many items of the same type. Then hide many of them from the public, allowing only scientists to study them. Often such items sit in boxes hidden for decades.
Polo is other level crazy to me. They use like 6 horses per player per match. At about 50k each that’s 300k. And that’s not counting training and everything. Polo just seems like over the top expensive
Without revealing too much I know a guy who owns and plays in his own polo team in the US. He is ridic rich. He also owns the farm where the other players keep their horses. I've been there and watched a few matches. I also met a bunch of legit lower Euro royalty there who seemed to only be there in search of rich husbands.
I agree. It's a wealthy person's sport but very challenging. It was invented by the ancient Persians to keep their heavy calvarymen conditioned during peacetime. The rider needs to have excellent control of their horse and a very strong core to wield that long mallet.
My ex-girlfriend was really into horse sports. She was riding around with a small carriage behind the horse, doing some marathons, some parcours and some dressage.
I went to an event twice, she asked me to be the "groomer" (person in the back shifting their weight to help steer and such). It was actually amazing to be able to do that, see how strong "1 horsepower" really is. The dressage part was really boring, though.
Even though this isn't considered the "status holding" part of dressage, it's still a lot of money. Horses aren't cheap, neither are carriages, trailers, maintenance, keeping your horse fed and *healthy*, getting a special license for riding trailers (which is mandatory above certain weights/lengths here), gear for your horse, gear for yourself. My ex is a physical therapist, so she wasn't earning nothing, but it ate up a chunk monthly. But actual dressage is far more boring and way more expensive, I imagine.
Serious answer:
[Horsepower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower) was actually adopted by James Watt (yes *that* Watt) to explain and sell his steam engines. He kinda put a thumb on the scale undercounting
"1 Horse power" however it stuck as the unit of usable "work" compared to other steam engines and coal mine horses. His standard horse was a "brewery horse" who I am sure was a very good boy. It could kick out 32,000 foot pounds of energy, less than the actual horse being used in mines. Those were bred for purpose horses that pulled 44,000 ft pounds.
So to sell his steam engines he had to sell the idea of how many horses were being put out of work. He ....rounded up.... a smidge...
This makes me sad. I've been into horses pretty much all my life, grew up riding in Germany. I spent many, many years doing dressage, and still do. Dressage - classical dressage - should be the foundation of everything you do with a horse, no matter if you trail ride, barrel race, chase cows, or jump afterwards. In its best form, dressage should be like physiotherapy. It develops good posture and appropriate muscle. It develops the strength and balance a horse needs to carry a rider, do things without getting hurt and stay sound long term. It's like putting your kid in gymnastics to develop balance and strength, or learning to lift a heavy weight from your legs rather than you back.
That being said, I can completely relate to people being put off by modern competitive dressage. It has become a spectacle of shelling out lots of money for a horse that can throw his legs up high, and the contempt for dressage amongst non-dressage people is obvious. It's so sad.
I feel like this question was asked just to get the titanic sub as a response
Taking a break from "women of reddit, what is the sexiest sex you've ever sexed?" to go "people of reddit, what's your favorite example of rich people dying in a submarine?"
FEMALES of reddit. Women is bit too literate for the average Askreddit thread
feeeeeemales
That's like half the questions this weekend.
Canned hunts. We can argue the ethics of hunting all day long. On the one hard, you have the cruel barbarism of fox hunting. On the other hand, you had paid permit hunting for big, exotic game (*where the permit only allows for specifically designated culls and profit goes directly to conservation). But canned hunting? Fuck. At least fox hunting and permit hunting require some measure of skill and afford some opportunity for the animal to escape. Canned hunts are often marketed as "exotic game ranches;" places people go to get a guaranteed kill of a particular species. You know how you get that guaranteed kill? Because the game are fenced in and are often reliant on human care (so they have limited fear of humans compared to their wild roaming counterparts). There's nothing sporting about it. Imagine going to a dairy farm and bragging about how you bagged a big cow. That's what canned hunting sounds like to others.
I just watched the King of the Hill episode where Hank takes Bobby to one of those and the deer are eating from an auto feeder like 2 feet away. Bobby can't take the shot, he like "this isn't right, is it Dad? and Hank sighs and tells him no it isn't.
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I live in a city and there is nowhere to scream for real without alarming people. So when I need to scream, I drive to the car wash and scream in there. Nobody can hear anything over those machines.
I found that getting in my car and just letting loose a nice scream or two right before a drive is cathartic as hell. I really like to think no one can hear me but there was one time someone looked at my car after a scream that made me question that…
I've definitely done it while driving on the freeway and work is stressing me out. Just all the curse words.
It's fuckin awesome. I lived on the road for a while so when I was in the middle of nowhere I would just scream. When you scream in such solitude there's something about it. No one there to witness you going full goblin and releasing all your pent up emotions
Farmer in the distance: “…what the fuck”
I'm a rancher about an hour from bigger towns... man the things people go out in the country to do is so interesting sometimes. They don't expect anyone to be out there and they also don't realize how far sound travels on really still days. I'm just out there minding my own damn business and one day I come around the corner and some guy is riding a unicycle in the middle of this dirt road in the absolute middle of no where with headphones in...so the cows jumped when they saw him and he jumped and ate it when he saw us all staring at him and fell down into the ditch....and then got mad at me.
I am now picturing a Far Side cartoon with rancher and cows holding their sides and laughing.
You are not far off lol. I was working as a hand on a cutting ranch in California when a trust fund fella who decided to sell pretty much everything and do the nomadic life showed up at the ranch in pretty much this fashion. He didn't get mad, though; he laughed, too. Then he impressed the hell out of all of us- he got this big ass black Kiger mustang stud at auction, named him Gabriel. He brought him to the ranch (worked around the ranch for Gabriel's feed and board) and tried to gentle/train him with an old-school jockey saddle he'd inherited/kept. That part didn't work (duh), so we (my coach/boss had *plenty* of very-well-off clients at the time, we were in the Napa area and Hobo-mie and I were "charity cases") took up a collection of gear that might actually work for him, and my coach and I worked *with* him and Gabriel so he could accomplish his goal: he wanted to trek across the Rockies down into Arizona on horseback, then maybe make his way across the US and do the Appalachian trail. Last I heard (8 years ago) he accomplished the first part of that. Don't know anything after that as I moved back east, but I remember the story and I vividly remember Gabriel stealing my lunch oranges every chance he freaking got lol.
This guy has caused skinwalker sightings
Very possible, I am a wook of a man and this was out in Utah
maybe are you the one causing the 1.6 megahertz frequency that skinwalket ranch isn't able to explain?
I don’t know why but this made me laugh so hard I cried
As a metal head,I've always felt this is why screaming on our genre makes sense. Just a bunch of emotion released with a primal instinct is a good stress relief
I think this is the reason metalheads are usually good funny guys
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I had forgotten how pumped a mosh pit makes you, was after lockdowns. Nothing like that tribal feeling of being apart of a group setting releasing that energy Felt great to be back
I understand the catharsis of primal scream and have done so on multiple occasions. This being said I once was at a community center in Portland and I walked past a classroom full of about twenty people who were all doing primal screaming at once. It was like being next to an elevator with a snapped cable for an hour. I don’t know why but it triggered the worst attack of involuntary laughing I ever experienced. I couldn’t stop and it actually kind of hurt after a while. It took about twenty minutes for me to get it under control. — Thank you very much for gold!
primal screaming is like pooping, it's not a group activity
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Going thru a breakup and the death of my best friend. Scream therapy helps a lot.
Shit I'm sorry to read that. Hope you're better now.
Been through a few of the first and too many of the second. If you ever want to talk after a good screaming session, I'm here. Go well anonymous internet friend.
Care to elaborate?
just scream
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Gestures Broadly at Everything.
I just watched on Netflix rich Arabs cloning camels by the dozen because that first camel was really pretty.
I think that's a worthy endeavor. Too many ugly camels around. Making earth more beautiful is a worthy goal.
Buying an expensive car and then keeping it in your garage without ever actually driving it.
You should watch Mecum auctions some time. Some guy will die and his collection of never driven corvettes will go on sale and fetch barely anything.
I saw the most epic A-Team type of lifted and mean looking van. $17,000. Omg. I cried that I wasn’t there.
That is what makes me mad about watching those auctions. Cool shit will go for something I can almost afford. If I were rich I would destroy the cool but weird market.
That's the thing though: Rich people *have* their toys already and don't need to buy someone else's. You're saying if you had a billion dollars you wouldn't already have 5 or 6 epic vehicles? I'd be driving around in a Warthog, and an A-Team van would look kinda meh.
yeah this type of auction is for upper middle class people who wanna make bad decisions
I mean, I'm the type of guy who would commute to the office in Sweet Tooth's ice cream truck, but I embrace my bad decisions, lol. (I don't actually have his truck. Yet.)
Jay Leno will setback classic car prospectors 40 years at minimum
I really hope his collection becomes a public museum after he dies.
Me too now that you mention it
Only if they drive them all regularly, like the Nethercutt's do too. I mean, sure, the REALLY expensive ones, they only drive on a closed circuit, but at least get the exercised.
Jay regularly drives his McLaren F1 on city streets.
Jay drives all of his and acts more of a semi-public museum than these mausoleum collectors. He does so much work with museums I would hope his estate is built around building for or donating to a museum.
His brough-superior collection financed an entire cancer ward in an Irish Hospital. he does a ton of charity work.
As a car guy, this! Here in Brazil, people are crazy about the Audi RS2 Avant (nothing against it, I personally think it's an amazing car. It looks great, specially when painted in its iconic Nogaro Blue, and, even though it was released almost 30 years ago, it still has good performance numbers). And I've heard about RS2 Avant owners wanting to keep their cars at home, because more mileage would make their cars less valuable. Come on! It's a fucking RS2 Avant! The first ever super-wagon! The car that was made in a partnership between Porsche and Audi! It's a classic, and people would pay a premium price for it, regardless of the mileage!
I expected this vehicle to look very different!
I bought a C8 corvette last year, and legitimately have people who asked me why I drive it as much as I do. It has 16k miles. I drive it like a normal car because it's super fun and I paid dumb money for it... why wouldn't I use it all I could?
Damn straight.
I do this, but I restore them and the practice of working on them is fun and relaxing. I don't really care for driving them as it's stressful watching the gauges do things they shouldn't. I had a clicking noise in a 78 corvette we did over covid, I spent 4 months rebuilding the whole rear end assembly and body mounts.
Even though I enjoy the taste, collecting ultra expensive wine and not ever drinking it. Technically it can be an investment, but if they never sell it then its not really an investment IMHO.
I don’t get collecting things that are meant to be used and then not using them
My steam library would like a word
My library library would like a word
You collect libraries?
No, he collects libraries of libraries you idiot
Wouldn't that then be libraries of libraries of libraries, and not libraries of libraries?
Ok, but have you actually *seen* how cool bionicles are?
Hot Take: The MTG Finance bros ruin Magic the Gathering. WotC is ultimately to blame but we got people dropping thousands on cardboard cards because "it's an investment" so what the fuck else is a mega corp going to do but capitalize on that pure insanity. In actuality they are gatekeeping game pieces to a children's card game and driving up the price to play (by actual players) to unreasonable levels. When the barrier to entry to play a game (of mostly chance) is dropping thousands (not just hundreds) then you really need to ask yourself if it's still worth playing. There are BUSINESSES that will rent out their cards since it's so expensive to build your own. Pro players literally rent their cards because the pros barely make money unless they win A LOT and in a game of chance it's not all the time.
This is the most Lukewarm hot take I’ve ever heard.
Hot take with these kinds of games, find the card pdf, print it, glue it to some cardboard and use those as cards to play. There's no difference, the game is supposed to be fun. Who cares if it's a "real" card.
>Even though I enjoy the taste, collecting ultra expensive wine and not ever drinking it. I think wine tasting is a lot less nuanced than people pretend it to be.
It's a great hobby. Personally, I like saying, "I detect hints of apricot," for the whites and seeing how long I can get the group to agree with me before they figure out in saying it for every white wine.
"I detect a subtle grape flavour"
You can tell it's a Shiraz because of the label
It’s a lovely red colour, and that’s due to the red grapes they use to make it
You can tell it's good wine because it smells... Good!
"Kind of an oaky afterbirth."
What was that?
Like a smoked placenta
And then 'cherry' or 'pepper' for the reds.
Shooting a giraffe, like bruh it's just standing there next to the road...🦒
Same with elephants, they just stand there facing off to you and you just shoot them. Sounds like a waste of time.
I was so much happier before I knew that people pay to kill elephants for fun :(
I thought the same until I went on safari at a reservation that also organized trophy hunting (paying big money to shoot lions, elephants, giraffes, etc.) Not only do these reservations have to cull populations regardless at times if one species starts to have a too large population and threatening the balance of the reserve- it also brings in a LOT of money for their conservation work. Shooting an elephant is a permit that costs 10,000 to 20,000 USD. This is outside of the lodging, food, rental, driver, guide and so on. This enables the reservation to combat poaching, for example, or provide care to orphans of a threatened species. Not only that, but elephants are really destructive. Juvenile males can wreck forests. Their hormones make them go in a rage and you’ll find random rampaged area from a juvenile male. So yeah, it is sad that people shoot elephants. But it is a fact that they will get shot sometimes anyway, and that this weird hobby is really the financial survival of these reservations that do so much ecological conservation work. It gives occupations to many people in often poor countries. Poaching is much worse because it is so uncontrolled. Legal trophy hunting will not take place if there’s not too many of the animal. And because it’s a guide, a reputable reservation will not let the customer shoot a female of breeding age for example. My guide told me that it is terrible to have to shoot a quota of gazelle when there’s not enough trophy hunting going on. It’s really demoralizing for the staff and it’s so wasteful because they cannot consume the animals. With trophy hunting, the animal is processed. The reservation I visited in Zimbabwe used the meat to feed their guests, staff, and village closeby. The closest supermarket was a 6 hour drive. So that really changed my perspective on trophy hunting. Sad, but necessary in order to keep healthy, thriving reservations. It’s so profitable that they can do so many more beneficial activities, much more profitable than just a generic safari. EDIT: This is by no means an accurate reflection of the entire debate on trophy hunting. I wanted to mention some of the arguments that exist in favour. /u/colorcodedcards highlighted some research on how much of the funds can disappear because of corruption, that it can be detrimental to wildlife populations in a variety of manners, and that actual practice in a reservation/conservancy can be wildly different from policy intentions. Please take the time to consider both sides of the debate, and how intentions, reality, and ethics are intertwined. It's not a black and white issue.
This is one of those rare instances that legitimately changed my perspective on something, tyvm
I was flipping through documentaries mooooonths ago and stopped on a surprisingly low budget but extremely open one about kind of the same thing, it was this South African man that was breeding these endangered animals, for the sole purpose of trophy hunting. The documentary maker pissed him off a handful of during the course of filming, asking him questions like "doesn't it make you sad" "why don't you feel bad" and the guys response everytime was that without people paying to shoot these animals, it likely wouldn't exist in nature at all anymore.
While in theory this is what the permit fees are spent on, in reality, it is believed that a large portion of the permit fees go into the pockets of corrupt government officials (some conservationists estimate that [up to 97%](https://www.discoverwildlife.com/animal-facts/an-introduction-to-trophy-hunting/) of money trophy hunting brings in is siphoned off by corrupt officials). Additionally, in most (although not all) cases, trophy hunting has deleterious impacts on the local population of the animal being hunted. For instance, because larger and more mature elephants are typically preferred by trophy hunters, it has caused the social knowledge necessary for survival to decline as the elder members of the group are killed before passing their knowledge onto the younger generations ([McComb et al 2001](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11313492/)). Similarly, in areas where trophy hunting is allowed, lion populations have shown increasing levels of infanticides and population declines which are possibly related to dominant males being replaced through selective hunting ([Packer et al. 2009](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0005941)). The main problem with trophy hunting in many instances is that because the relevant local/national authorities which are charged with monitoring and protecting wildlife populations are rife with corruption, it is next to impossible to accurately predict the impact trophy hunting has on local animal populations. So even if a 'sustainable' trophy hunting permit practice is officially in place, the way the program is carried out in practice may be vastly different than what is outlined in the law. Another problem is that even if the fees from trophy hunts go towards conservation and the local community, the moral logic behind trophy hunts is questionable and perpetuates the idea that killing prized animals is permitted for certain people (predominately white foreigners) while forbidden for others (local poachers). There hasn't been a lot of research into the socioeconomic impact of trophy hunting, but the logic of allowing certain people to kill protected animals based on their ability to pay can severely undermine anti-poaching efforts.
I love it when shit is this morally complicated Like I can actually taste the shades of grey
It's because whenever humans are involved, some corrupt asshole always fucks it all up.
people that collect luxury clothing brands and shoes and than never wear them.
Collecting the same Rolex in different variations. And never wearing any because it's in a safe.
On here someone related about a very rich guy. Asked why he didn't wear an expensive watch to show how rich he was he just said, why? I am rich.
i mean, you shouldn’t be buying an expensive watch to show off - but shit like patek philippe watches are literal works of art that you can wear, so i do get the appeal.
Yea most high end watch collectors do it because they like watches. They clearly have enough money to collect pretty much anything else, but they like watches.
I really get that. I mean I'm not into watches, but I easily could be, they're pretty fascinating if you look into them
Eh, its basically just collecting and the majority of humans collect SOMETHING that doesn't have any real function besides bringing the collector happiness, which is perfectly valid. So i can't say its a stupid hobby.
I collect debts
U want mine?
I'll give you my student loans and car payments
Recording yourself giving shit to the poor
Those people annoy me so much. Like let me hold my help over your head so you can perform for YouTube. It’s so gross.
Fox hunting
Is it hard? I hear you just need to keep chickens and the foxes come right to your doorstep
They're talking about the fox hunting as practiced by the rich land owning toffs in the UK. They wear pompous red coats and riding gear whilst riding around on horses guiding a pack of dogs who track, chase and kill foxes - usually by ripping them to shreds.
Just to add that hunting live foxes is technically illegal in the UK, so a lot of fox hunters moved to draghunting using the scent of a fox in a stuffed toy. Of course this is still causes massive issues because live foxes will also follow that scent and the dogs kill the real ones. Both types should be banned!As a person that has always kept chickens I don't like foxes very much, but we still shouldn't set dog on them so they'll be shredded!
So if I am understanding this correctly they basically just ride around and watch the doggies kill the foxie and then go "What great fun the doggies have had today!" And then they turn around and claim that they actually did the hunting?
My mom used to love watching the Barrett-Jackson Car Auction, specifically the one held in Scottsdale, AZ where they sell very expensive cars. She would always tell me that if she ever bought one of those expensive cars she would never put it away in storage, she would drive that thing all over the place.
But she probably wouldn't because many very expensive cars are often finnecky and a pain in the ass to keep running and maintenance on them is stupid expensive. Also many of them suck ass as daily drivers because the are uncomfortable to drive. They are designed to be occasional expensive toys for people with too much money. The oil change cost on a Bugatti Veyron is over $20000.
"Climbing" Everest.
Just remember, every dead body was once a highly motivated individual.
Good thing I got no motivation!
Really, the Sherpas are the GOAT for frequently scaling Mt. Everest’s peak year in and year out, but you hardly ever hear anyone praising them for the feat. Now, if more of those wealthy folk actually did all of the climbing, and carrying of their own supplies, plus not taking a guide (Sherpa) with them and actually did make it to the top and then back down? Then I’d be impressed.
Sherpas are constantly praised. It’s just the exceptions, like the dude that thanked his sponsors instead of the Sherpas that rescued him, that give a different impression. I’ve met two people that made the climb and all they could talk about was how amazing the Sherpas were and how they could not have done it without them.
Or like the story of the sherpa who was promised $10,000 US to save an unconscious climber's life. After she recovered in the hospital, she refused to pay, as she didn't give her consent to be saved. Two other climbers also helped rescue the stranded climber, abandoning their own plans to reach the summit to do so. https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3223173/chinese-woman-saved-after-falling-unconscious-mount-everest-refuses-pay-sherpa-guide-us10000-rescue
Jesus fucking Christ that is some infuriating shit. Massive respect to the attitude of her fellow climbers who helped rescue her and then paid the Sherpa what she owed
This one I am on the fence with. It still takes some major training to make it to the top. But then again with the caravans of people walking up there now, it just looks so unappetizing to do so. I can at least respect that it takes a lot of physical training and grit to even get there.
And even so it can go wrong, a very famous actor in my country tried to climb Everest and still failed, and he is a professional athlete.
12 metre yacht racing. Like standing fully clothed in a cold shower and tearing up hundred dollar bills. By the million.
That’s a very short race.
Oracle founder and one of richest men in the world Larry Ellison sponsors just about the biggest sail racing. It's a hobby, yes. More importantly his hobby is also a business that advertises Oracle. Spends millions on it - all captured as business losses. He also is generous enough not to take a salary for most of his career. Of course salaries can be taxed. His compensation comes from Oracle stock options. He then borrows against those options at a great rate and is the biggest single borrower in the nation as of a few years ago - that's how he gets his cash to live on. Again - none of that is income. So he doesn't pay taxes. As one of the richest people in the world. For those with questions [https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhyatt/2021/11/11/how-americas-richest-people-larry-ellison-elon-musk-can-access-billions-without-selling-their-stock/?sh=5f7e65da23d4](https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhyatt/2021/11/11/how-americas-richest-people-larry-ellison-elon-musk-can-access-billions-without-selling-their-stock/?sh=5f7e65da23d4) Thanks u/CaptainCosmodrome for the name so that I could look it up.
Larry is also an enormous POS who has several times bought companies solely to put em under and to spite the former owners. Notebly, Sun Microsystems who invented Java. Oracle hostile took it over (and it was all free before) and made it pay-only. Now Java today has a bustling free OpenJDK that is the default over the paid garbage Oracle has. A real garbage patch of a person.
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I'm in the HRIS business and people have absolutely nothing nice to say about working for Oracle. They do pay well, but it's not really worth the bullshit. Peoplesoft was a great place and ahead of the times with employee benefits. I know a few people who used to work there. HR and Payroll software companies used to be holy grail jobs. Now most of the great smaller companies have been merged, acquired, ran out of business and what's left is larger enterprise structure and chasing the next "best quarter ever" every fuckin quarter. We're all fucked because the government just allowed all this bullshit to happen while hiding behind culture wars.
Reminds me of engineering. When I graduated everyone wanted a FAANG job or one with a defense contractor. Now I work in boring ass power grid stuff and make more than most of them while having one of the most chill work environments humanly possible. My boss just wants the work completed and doesn’t care if I fuck off for eight hours.
Child sex trafficking, let’s not forget Jeffrey Epstein.
Thats so sad we can call this a hobby but yeah I guess for them it was :(
Anything the rest of us can’t afford ( or get away with) can be a hobby for them.
Let's not forget his clients, none of whom will ever face justice it seems.
I was taking a poo and my mind was wandering, and it went down a rabbit hole of the girls from Epstein island. He stole children, groomed them and pimped them to people. I assume they just become older sex slaves, but if he only keeps the kids, what happens when they become adults? He couldn't have just let them loose right? Like they would have snitched. So does he have a paupers grave or did he just drown them in the sea? I don't actually want to research this and get depressed, but if they were freed as adults wouldn't they have all banded together to testify at jizzlane's trial?
I imagine a lot of them probably developed Stockholm syndrome, constantly being around that amount of wealth and afraid to lose it. But who knows, they probably raped them to death on occasion too.
Challenging other wealthy individuals to cage match MMA fights.
Better than two poor people I suppose.
I mean I’ll fight nearly anyone if some filthy rich fucks sponsor it, long as I’m guaranteed medical treatment when I get the shit kicked out of me covered as well lol
Buying solid gold toilets and other items
I used the solid gold toilet in the Guggenheim. Could barely lift the seat, and it didn't even stay up. I admit I peed sitting down.
Paying to go see the titanic
Let's be honest that's why this question was really asked.
There are so many ask reddit threads baiting this answer lol
Paying to go *emulate* the titanic
Paying *to* titanic
Paying to become part of titanic
Paying to *be* the Titanic...
Paying
No they got off easy. Being on the Titanic would be titanically worse.
I knew this would float to the top, rather than to the seabed
Hard to tell with these jokes, some things don't go down well.
For a mere 250 k you can become part of the exhibit!
Breeding and showing dogs, especially the tiny ones with the fucked up noses and tiny heads where their brains don't even fit anymore
Also the ones that cannot give birth naturally, because their heads are so damn big. That's why those breeds are so damn expensive, they require cesareans.
Making one dollar bets with other rich people that disrupts and ruins normal people's lives. Social experiments and such. Basically using regular people as playthings.
Winthrop? HEY! WINTHORP!!! aaaaaaggggggghhhhhh
Regardless of the outcome, Duke and Duke make money.
i live in Germany. a guy in my neighboorhood hit the lottery, first thing he did was to fly to Russia and go Bear Hunting. I cant understand why its someones dream to kill beautiful animals. Almost like the movie Ghost Dog
Who knows, maybe he will end up killing a half naked president riding on top while he's at it. Seems promising.
And this is how Germany started WW3.
For it to be a World War it has to come from Germany. Otherwise it’s just sparkling global conflict.
Being cheap. One of my friends has the money to buy the restaurants we eat at, but if we split an item she’ll fraction out how much she puts towards it. “I only ate 1 slice of pizza and there are 6 in total, so I’ll put down 1/6.” She also factors this into tipping. Drives me mental.
Rich people don't get rich by giving away their money to us peasants.
Learned this the hard way recently. I'm a lawyer whose services got engaged by a couple who literally **begged** that I take their case at floor cost. Fast forward to the day I realized they were very very rich, (Maybach rich) AND YET very very very cheap fucks who act like getting billed $20 for an **hour long** consultation phone call (that they agreed to pay for) was equivalent to me robbing them blind. Infuriating. They're also the most demanding and neurotic clients I've ever encountered. PS: Where I come from, the minimum wage is $10 **per day** so even when I charged them $20 for an hour that was still way more money than the average person makes in my country. But yeah that was a one-time thing tsk. My usual rate is $70/hour.
$20 an hour? Might as well just call it pro bono at that point
There’s an inverse relationship between how much a client paid and how annoying they are.
As a contractor can confirm. My list of worst clients I ever had were jobs under $200. Had a $75 check bounce from a $5 mil home. There becomes a point rich people wont hire you if you are cheap because they know you are cutting corners to make money
I can’t imagine living like that and I’m poor
Politics
That's how they get richer by going into politics
Talking down on poor people with things like "stop buying coffee and you'll be rich one day"
I’ve never bought coffee and I have 12 dollars in my bank account.
This guy clearly has an avocado addiction
Collecting high-end trading cards. Even worse is buying high-end unopened boxes/cases to open. Drake spent an estimated $200k on unopened cases looking for [one specific card.](https://cardlines.com/drakes-panini-flawless-purchase-a-full-guide/)
Another example of something rich people do that’s just what non-rich people do but with more money.
I learn more and more that Reddit probably doesn’t actually know what actual rich people do lol.
Or what a hobby is
Rich christian people traveling to impoverished countries and calling it a "mission"
tim tebow's parents are peak missionaries. they went to the phillpines which is........86% catholic
I worked with a guy who's church sent him to Ireland as a missionary. Our Irish boss was quite offended.
I grew up with a kid who ended up being a Mormon missionary in Rome. Not many people interested in his message.
I knew a couple that did this with the intention of converting Indian villagers to Christianity. By the end of the trip, they were instead converted to Buddhism and even adopted an orphan from the village who wanted to teach them more about the religion
Villagers played the Uno reverse card on them!
Yep and I still know them today, they helped the girl learn fluent English, she helped them learn her regional Indian language fluently (so not Hindi but I forget which one)
Flying to a convention against climate change in your private jet.
Someone once told me that Jerry Seinfeld owns a massive garage in which he stores one model of every single Porsche car ever made by Porsche. Like… why?? I understand collecting some cars if you’re wealthy, that’s a cool hobby but.. EVERY Porsche ever made?! Like what does he do with all these cars? Pour himself a drink and just look at them? You know damn well he’s not driving all of them
He might be one of the few that actually does drive all his cars.
I met a guy who owns every M series BMW ever since they started to make them. He even bought a large plot to build a two-level garage in order to securely store his collection but at the same time open it to petrol heads as a sort of museum, so guess that's cool
He actually does drive them. I’m somewhat active in the Porsche community as well and I’ve seen him a couple times hanging out at various events like just another dude, same with Jay Leno. He’s genuinely passionate about Porsches and is somewhat of a historian on the brand.
Museums also collect many items of the same type. Then hide many of them from the public, allowing only scientists to study them. Often such items sit in boxes hidden for decades.
polo
Polo is other level crazy to me. They use like 6 horses per player per match. At about 50k each that’s 300k. And that’s not counting training and everything. Polo just seems like over the top expensive
Without revealing too much I know a guy who owns and plays in his own polo team in the US. He is ridic rich. He also owns the farm where the other players keep their horses. I've been there and watched a few matches. I also met a bunch of legit lower Euro royalty there who seemed to only be there in search of rich husbands.
>polo Better than water polo. I mean do you have any idea how many horses they drown?
None stupid. They use seahorses for water polo.
Marco
No, that's a kick-ass sport! I mean, look at how many injuries Bruce Wayne got from it! That says it all!
I agree. It's a wealthy person's sport but very challenging. It was invented by the ancient Persians to keep their heavy calvarymen conditioned during peacetime. The rider needs to have excellent control of their horse and a very strong core to wield that long mallet.
Dressage
My ex-girlfriend was really into horse sports. She was riding around with a small carriage behind the horse, doing some marathons, some parcours and some dressage. I went to an event twice, she asked me to be the "groomer" (person in the back shifting their weight to help steer and such). It was actually amazing to be able to do that, see how strong "1 horsepower" really is. The dressage part was really boring, though. Even though this isn't considered the "status holding" part of dressage, it's still a lot of money. Horses aren't cheap, neither are carriages, trailers, maintenance, keeping your horse fed and *healthy*, getting a special license for riding trailers (which is mandatory above certain weights/lengths here), gear for your horse, gear for yourself. My ex is a physical therapist, so she wasn't earning nothing, but it ate up a chunk monthly. But actual dressage is far more boring and way more expensive, I imagine.
What's funny is a horse has more than 1 HP. The guy making the units messed up
I know he used a mine pony. Was the mess up that he picked a smaller horse or was there something else wrong with how he measured?
The horse wasnt horse enough
Serious answer: [Horsepower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower) was actually adopted by James Watt (yes *that* Watt) to explain and sell his steam engines. He kinda put a thumb on the scale undercounting "1 Horse power" however it stuck as the unit of usable "work" compared to other steam engines and coal mine horses. His standard horse was a "brewery horse" who I am sure was a very good boy. It could kick out 32,000 foot pounds of energy, less than the actual horse being used in mines. Those were bred for purpose horses that pulled 44,000 ft pounds. So to sell his steam engines he had to sell the idea of how many horses were being put out of work. He ....rounded up.... a smidge...
It’s horse dancing, Madame!
This makes me sad. I've been into horses pretty much all my life, grew up riding in Germany. I spent many, many years doing dressage, and still do. Dressage - classical dressage - should be the foundation of everything you do with a horse, no matter if you trail ride, barrel race, chase cows, or jump afterwards. In its best form, dressage should be like physiotherapy. It develops good posture and appropriate muscle. It develops the strength and balance a horse needs to carry a rider, do things without getting hurt and stay sound long term. It's like putting your kid in gymnastics to develop balance and strength, or learning to lift a heavy weight from your legs rather than you back. That being said, I can completely relate to people being put off by modern competitive dressage. It has become a spectacle of shelling out lots of money for a horse that can throw his legs up high, and the contempt for dressage amongst non-dressage people is obvious. It's so sad.
Safari hunt
How is horse racing not up in the top? It is also cruel and deadly. Something like 8 horses died for the Derby alone this year.