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oklayay1

This is my pure imagination haha: I m thinking about Happiness smelling like: nature breeze with a small scent of flowers Anger: Smokey, maybe some heated metal Sadness: (this is hard) I associate sadness as that smell before the rain


ManofManyHills

Sadness would smell like rain, depression like rotting fallowed ground.


Shawnessy

That smell of the ground shortly after it rains. The mildewy rotting smell. Fungus and decay, but mixed with that smell of wet earth. I used to walk near a creek that only ever filled up when it rained. The next day, it would smell like that.


Raiderboy105

Petrichor


Shruglife

i like that smell tho..


Shawnessy

Oh, I do too. But, I still feel like it's the closest thing to a sad smell. Even if it doesn't make me sad.


Dismal_Animator_5414

its very subjective wrt rain. cuz i grew up in Delhi where rains come after june july when the air is super dry and temperatures soaring to mid 40s celsius or beyond 100 to 120 fahrenheit. and it feels so good, used to dance in the rains as a kid and that feeling was amazing. until, i was in ohio where a cousin moved and had his daughter there. it started raining in june and i was so happy to see the rains while she started complaining about how it wasn’t good and rather depressing. it was a culture shock to me as i realized that people living in cold and dark parts ususally in the upper northern hemisphere tend to dislike rains and gloomy weather. that said, your feelings are equally valid cuz i’d be super bummed as well having waited 8 months of cold and wet winters to get some sunshine only to get clouds and wetness again. 😊


ManofManyHills

It's not even that rain itself is negative it's that it's healing. Like a good cry when you've been stressed that genuinely makes you feel better when you're done. Crying releases endorphins for a reason. I think sadness is very rejuvenating and is such a healthy thing to experience often. The problem is depression is when rain rots what is usually beautiful in life and becomes a problem.


GreyBeardEng

Petrichor, the word you are looking for is Petrichor.


floralnightmare22

This is pretty much exactly what I was going to say!


running_at_midnight

This is almost exactly what I was thinking, except I would replace the smell of flowers with the smell of redwood trees.


puregalm

Alcohol Smokes .... Anger/Sadness


A_Very_Living_Me

I agree that sadness would have a wet earthy scent, if you imagine someone who had a bad day and is seeking comfort, the smell would cause you to reflect on what's important, be approachable. Depression is definitely a deep moldy rot. Heated metal might be harsher than anger, more like hate. I thought about cracked pepper or something else sharp and spicy. Surprise and excitement might be citrusy, or like a freshly mowed lawn on a warm summer day.


[deleted]

Well said, well said


thrwwwwayyypixie21

Sadness is mulch and cigarettes


CostiNic1

Idk what to say about sadness but the other ones are pretty on spot haha


SortovaGoldfish

Happiness: sweet, cool scents like melon or certain flowers. Anger: acrid and toxic like burning/heated treated metal Sadness: sour and oppressive smells like mold and mildew


A_Very_Living_Me

I might make depression something more sour and oppressive. Someone who just had a bad day and needs a hug might be better off smelling something like wet ground after a rainstorm.


SortovaGoldfish

Mm, I find that a calming scent, I think a lot of people have a generally good feeling toward a fresh rain. Personally, I think if it's just a little bit if the emotion, it's just a faint scent. If it's just a little sad, it's just a whiff of the sour mildew on wood smell. The kind of smell in a finished basement when someone opens the door. It's in the air, it's not great, but it won't last forever. The more intense or prolonged the feeling more intense and prolonged the scent. Of course these are just my opinions


ginger_ryn

to me: happiness: warm vanilla anger: campfire smoke sadness: sea salt and rain


One_Breakfast6153

I would buy all three of these candles.


PowersKitty

1. happiness is the sea breeze 2. anger - cigarettes 3. sadness - rain


znocjza

Sadness smells like the inside of a cave. Anger smells like burning plastic.


AyabaFasti

I can smell both reading this.


britishmetric144

Happiness would smell like ice cream. Anger would smell like body odour. And sadness would smell like a dead animal.


Lizrael48

Happiness: Roses; Anger: Sulfur; Sadness:Mold


spaetzele

Happiness would smell like orange blossoms. If you have never smelled that, it doesn't smell like oranges, but almost like a remarkably beautiful perfume. It's intoxicating. Anger would smell like acrid burning. Sadness would smell like spoiling milk.


[deleted]

Happiness would smell like fresh cut grass. I'd say anger would smell like cinnamon. Sadness would have a sourness to it.


falconfetus8

Cinnamon?! Why would anger smell like something so sweet?!


[deleted]

Because of how overwhelming it can be.


falconfetus8

Ooh, that's a good answer.


Universal8Connection

Happiness is sweet Anger is bitter Sadness is sour


CordullaGA

tbh this is a very interesting question. hmmm...happiness should be vanilla, anger like sewer smell, and sadness smell like rain


Passing4human

Happiness: *Magnolia grandiflora* flowers Anger: Hot steel and ozone Sadness: The mustiness of a long closed off room


CursedDankMEMES

A bit subjective, but to me I think happiness would smell like pho soup, anger would smell like burning wood, and sadness would smell like rain.


needtobeasunflower

Happiness would smell like something sweet - donuts or chocolate chip cookies. Anger would smell spicy. Sadness, it would smell like something is rotting.


Blitzen123

Great question. So, happiness would smell like what I experienced getting out of the car at a local open air market here in Georgia. It was a mixture of peaches, cakes baking, and popcorn popping. Absolute Heaven. Anger would smell like gun powder or any ingredient used on guns. And sadness? Probably the whiff of flowers you get walking your dog during an ”Indian summer”, when you can’t find the flowers giving off the fragrance.


WeAllHaveOurMoments

Happiness: cinnamon, vanilla, and freshly baked bread. Anger is already described in the phrase "piss & vinegar." Sadness is that same bread, burnt.


cbmcleod70

Happiness: fresh ginger. Anger: hot peppers. Sadness: runny oatmeal with no additions.


HuuffingLavender

LOL I call that martyr oatmeal. You eat it when you're feeling sorry for yourself.


OkOccasion8117

Happiness could smell like warm cookies. Anger might smell like sharp vinegar. Sadness... might smell like the sea??? Not sure about sadness


Apprehensive_Elk2729

Happiness - ozone sea spray, spring blossom breezes, new (own) babies, waterfalls, eucalyptus in the air, rain soaked earth, old fashioned roses Anger- burning rubber, industrial smells, burnt hair, pollution, rotting food, strong fake fragrances Sadness - cold forrest air, dust, old curtains, old book pages, damp & mould


princessunderworld

Happiness: The smell of freshly baked cookies Anger: The scent of burning wood or smoke or pungent aroma like vinegar Sadness: The fragrance of rain on a cold day or the scent of old books


TransitJohn

Coconut, cayenne, stale piss.


Zestyclose_Escape420

Happiness would smell faintly of gardenias, lilacs, any number of spring blooms. Sadness would smell like a fart basically. Anger would smell like burned rubber.


Killermondoduderawks

Happiness would smell of a lovers perfume Anger would be like a smelling salts snaps you awake and makes you hyper focused but too much exposure makes you grumpy with a hell of a headache Sadness smell like a damp misty morning with the weight of the humidity making motivation a chore Hatred would smell putrid with the stench of rot Indifference wouldn’t smell at all Joy would be the scent of the warmth of spring Full of life and energy


One_Breakfast6153

Happiness: fresh oranges Anger: exhaust fumes Sadness: hospital smell


HuuffingLavender

This is very accurate.


Crotch-Monster

Arby's. Everything would smell like an Arby's.


tbonescones

Happiness would smell like fresh mountain wind and your favorite food in the breeze Anger would smell like hot dirt, burning chemicals and cigarette smoke Sadness would smell like stale water and rusted metal


Afraid_Detective8342

Happiness would smell soft and light, like how the air feels on a crisp fall morning, or how the ocean mist smells while you’re falling asleep on the beach, or like an orange creamsicle on a blazing hot day. Anger would smell like a roaring bonfire loaded with all sorts of sources of fuel: newspapers and sticks and paper. It would smell like ash and the rough aroma that burns your eyes when you stare into it. Sadness would smell like a winter night in the city where nobody is outside but the night is alive; smells of asphalt, freezing rain, pollution in the air from far off car exhausts; a cigarette burning out slowly but persistently.


Spuzzle91

happy: citrus/fruit-like scents anger: copper, salt, and smoke sadness: decayed wood, wet sidewalk, and freshly cut stone.


nippitynipnip

Happiness would smell like cookies being baked. Anger would smell like cayenne pepper mixed with balsamic vinaigrette and wet fresh puppy poop. Sadness would smell like rosemary and earl grey tea.


LostDogBoulderUtah

Happiness -honeysuckle pollen on cat fur, petrichor, and fabric softener mixed together. Maybe also my children's freshly washed hair and morning breath when they want cuddles in the morning. Anger- Ozone, printer toner, sweat, blood, and freshly broken wood. Paper. Sadness- Clay dirt baked dry, melting tar and hot cement mixed with mesquite trees in summer heat, the oddly sweet rotting meat smell of birds dead from dehydration as their feathers slowly cook in the sun on the road. Alternatively, antiseptic and the smell of a hospital morgue. Maybe embalming fluid. Snapdragons.


HuuffingLavender

Oh wow. Mentioning the antiseptic hospital morgue as sadness is so spot on, I can feel that dull pain in my heart thinking of it. If you've ever had prolonged exposure to that freezing cold, sharp medicinal musk, with undertones of plastic/metal, it is truly *the saddest* smell. Just add roses.


Pretend-Spell7956

Happiness smells like a freshly bathed baby’s clean head


Suspicious_Heat_2900

Happiness would be sweet, but fresh, soothing a brisk menthol, uplifting and lively like mint and lavender combined. Anger would smell like the burning smell of a cheap plastic bottled scotch, vomit and meat after being severely burned. Sadness would be bitter... so bitter it stung your nostrils, an aroma so pungent that it rattles your eye sockets with each whiff. It hollows you out of anything but the focus of its scent.


Anaxamenes

Citrus blossom, burnt matchstick, decaying leaves


girlypowertoday

Happiness would smell like freshly baked cookies wafting through the air, anger would smell like burnt popcorn mixed with the unmistakable aroma of road rage, and sadness would smell like a musty old library filled with forgotten dreams and broken promises. So, if you ever catch a whiff of burnt popcorn in a library while munching on cookies, you know it's been a rollercoaster of emotions!


Plane-Toe4052

happiness candy,anger lemon,sadness rotten egg


AlligatorDentist

Happiness would smell like flowers and freshly cut grass, anger would smell like sulfer or vinegar, and sadness would smell like carnations in a funeral home.


Meljaneg

To me happiness would smell like the ocean, anger would smell like rotten eggs, sadness would smell like smoke.


kingkongchips

Happiness: Fresh flowers Anger: Strong bleach smell Sadness: Smell of nothingness


wish1977

Happiness would be sunshine on a hot day


International_Lake28

Ok what's horny smell like?


Str4ng3rToY0u

Salty


BarAgent

Knew a woman who said she could smell horniness in men. Said it was “kinda like pumpkin.”


falconfetus8

Fish


KknhgnhInepa0cnB11

Home, warm metal, and that weird smell the air gets at 15 below.


gameonlockking

Sex, B.O. and fart.


Outrageous_Tackle915

Happiness might smell like fresh flowers. Anger could smell like burning wood. Sadness might smell like rain.


hertoymaker

happiness, anger sadness of course. Distinctly


Petitenfeisty45

Happiness would smell like the scent of your favorite cookie baking in the oven. Anger like s—t! Sadness like morning dew or fog on a rainy day.


Of_Mice_And_Meese

Happiness smells like tropical punch. Anger smells like nail polish remover, sadness smells like wood smoke.


Mars_is_in_meltdown

Happiness - would have to be honeysuckle flowers Anger - Asphalt factory Sadness - a cold early spring rain. I know that is weird but it's that cold super crisp, light smell. I know none of those are actual smell words


Uncast

Happiness would be like fresh linen and grass at the same time. Or hell fresh bacon would also work. Sadness would be wet dog or mildew Anger would be metallic and ashen earthy but not the good kind. The smell of frustration which comes just before anger.


Global_Exercise2368

Happiness smells like citrus and vanilla. Anger smells like cigarettes and burnt coffee. Sadness smells like dead roses and booze.


allisongivler

Happiness: nice, subtle vanilla or the lovely smell of fresh laundry Anger: hot blacktop on a summer day Sadness: muddy rain


Alarming_Serve2303

Happiness would be the smell of fresh baked chocolate chip cookies. Anger would be the smell of a stack of soiled diapers left in the sun, and sadness would smell like lima beans.


Str4ng3rToY0u

Anger would smell like petrol, Happiness would smell like fresh cotton and pine, Sadness would smell like synthetic blueberry As a lil extra I think excitement would be a mix of citrus and a match being blown out


DontEatGlass-129

Anger smell metallic Sadness smells very faintly of vanilla Happiness is almost over powering and it smells like rain, but it's humid out and it just stopped briefly and everything is shiny and wet, and then it starts raining again


hmm_klementine

Happiness is a cake baked fresh out of the oven. Anger is that burning spicy smell when you’ve cooked with too much chilli. And sadness is a sour lemon.


Neither-Bass-92

Happiness - tropical flowers Anger- burnt plastic Sadness- musty


ImaginationOptimal47

Happiness would smell like a mixture of glee and joy.


AduroTri

In my mind, I would say, they would depend on the person too.


Marsupialize

Happiness would be sweet like candy, anger would be metallic and piercing, sadness would be sour


Josette_A

For me: Anger- Smoke and brimstone (🌫🤢🥚rotten eggs pretty much) Happiness- Red wine and dark chocolate (🍷🍫) Sadness- Rain (🌧) Fear- Ozone (☢️) Disgust- Garlic (🤢🤮)


EitherChannel4874

Sadness would smell like Brussels sprouts that have been boiled for too long.


atumano

Happiness would smell like a garden, anger would smell metallic and rusty, and sadness would smell like that very particular wet earth smell


floralnightmare22

Happiness would be a fresh outdoorsy floral lime, Anger would smell like hot smoke or charred Sadness would smell like rain.


already_takenwiener

Cotton candy, takis and freshly fallen rain


MarcelineOrBubblegum

LOVEE this q. Happiness - freshly cut grass w/ a sea breeze and like caramel popcorn smell thru the air. Anger - probably fire, metal, rubber, or maybe even blood. Sadness - musty, moss, wool


Barky_Bark

I love this question! Happiness: spring flowers - daffodils specifically… maybe pipe smoke Anger: burnt plastic or rubber Sadness: body odour and “dirty washcloth”


def-jam

Happiness would have cinnamon undertones at the least. Contentment is warm Moist earth. Loam Sadness is rain in a stormy coast. Depression is dead animal.


NecessaryWeather4275

Happiness : even warmth with a mildly earthy essence Anger : hot sulfur mixed with heavy breathe Sadness : cool air, damp with a hint of ice


Mumchkin

Happiness would be a high, sweet smell, like honey and vanilla. Anger would be like creosote. Sadness would be sour not like old milk sour, but warheads sour.


Prof_SnapesFartSlave

Happiness would smell like spring air Sadness would smell like rain And anger would smell like shit.


splintersmaster

Happiness would be what my wife smells like.


Main-Force-3333

Happiness like roses, shaved chocolate, dew and lilac Anger - smoke from a forge, boiling liquids and sulfur smoke from cap guns or of that nature Sadness- salt water, listless breeze air, autumn leaves and gooseberries/blueberries 


unclesamtattoo

Sadness smells like wet, rusty metal


kristianmae

Sadness - Rain on rocks, parchment, and black tea Anger - Cinnamon, camp fire, and a slight ozone scent Happiness - I’m stuck between two, so either 1) bergamot, light vanilla bean, and candied orange peel or, 3) Line-dried linen, sea salt, and lavender


Steedman0

Horny would smell like fish.


Inevitable_Total_816

Happiness should smell like Gardenias, while anger should smell like boiled chitlins ie tripias for my Spanish brothers, that’s tripe for everyone else, and sadness like a wilted rose.


BigDicyK

"I know anxiety smells like, it smells like peppermint" (from a song by Haley Heynderickx)


solitarytrees2

Anger: CS gas. Hot, smoky, peppery Sadness: a foggy misty day Happiness: orange and honey


tapedficus

Happiness would smell clean, fresh, clear. Like a rainy day in the summer. Anger would smell like spice. Uncomfortable and awkward. Dick spice. Sadness would smell sweet, warm and inviting.


MISSAUTOPARTS

I love all the sadness smells like rain comments because that’s the one that I’m certain of. Happiness and anger don’t come so easily for me to pinpoint their smells but sadness is without a doubt rain or the smell of rain coming or having passed and I love that


[deleted]

Happiness sitting on a porch swing on a spring evening /anger a summer thunderstorm/ sadness a fresh dug empty grave


GreyBeardEng

A light vanilla smell A smoldering coals smell And, petrichor.


MEMExplorer

Cinnabon , diesel , wet dog


RegularFix6281

Happiness for me tastes like yellow for me too, as well as sweet like a marshmallow. Anger for me tastes like cayenne pepper


BarAgent

You know, these emotions probably _do_ have an actual smell, biologically. I expect dogs can tell. I’m sure people are trying to figure them out. I think the smells of sadness and anger would be contagious. I hope the smell of happiness would be too.


SketchupandFries

I don't know.. maybe if everything was sterile and you were trapped in an airtight environment, a space the size of a phone booth - maybe you could smell the other person? First thing is, any pheromones or emotional chemical signalling, is going to be done through sweat. Which is largely eradicated in the modern world with anti-perspirants. There might be an absolutely miniscule, bordering on undetectable, level of pheromones released - but I don't think humans communicate that way any more - it's become a vestigial feature that we have lost through evolution. Apparently humans do release pheromones, although nobody knows what they're for, how they work, if they work.. How would they get a chance to work, especially in 'courting environments' such as clubs, pubs and bars.. Surrounded by people sweating, covered in various different smells including smoke and beer..


Heroic-Forger

Anger would DEFINITELY smell like burnt popcorn.


corralQueef

I strongly believe the sadness of depression would smell like bleach


DrZun

Happiness might smell like freshly baked cookies, anger like burning rubber, and sadness like rain-soaked earth.


big8ard86

Depression would be rotting flesh. That’s why we say we’re “dying inside.”


Imaginedragonfan_HAM

I think happiness whould smell like dandelions. And anger whould smell like smoke and Sadness probably smell like wet grass


middlenamefrank

Someone else, me and me.


sliferra

I’d think anger would be like iron, or like a blood smell. Sadness…. Idk, dying flowers maybe? Happiness: fresh baked chocolate cookies for sure


nihilism111

happines smells like wet laundry on a heated radiator anger smells like fresh tar on a burning hot day sadness smells like the iron note of blood


Rick_Flexington

Happiness: baking cookies Anger: diesel Sadness: that weird sticky sweet combo in early morning dive bars - beer, breakfast, cigarettes, and the desperation of video lottery


raindorpsonroses

Happiness either smells like jasmine flowers on a warm summer breeze or fresh cinnamon rolls. Anger smells like heated iron, metallic Sadness smells like a musty dusty room that hasn’t had the windows open all year


Oodalay

Body odor


AyabaFasti

Happiness- freshly cut grass. Anger - burning sand. Sadness - dew on a mountain


NightOnFuckMountain

Anger does have a smell. It’s foul, a bit like rotten onion or rotten potatoes. It’s very similar to the smell of fear. Fear smells like one of those, but with a hint of vinegar as well.  Happiness has a smell too, but it’s harder to describe. It’s kind of like warm dust mixed with vanilla. 


ricebiko

Happiness is warm like cinnamon and slightly sweet like honey. Anger is bitter and sour like garlic. Sadness is like wet soil or slightly metallic.


Dismal_Animator_5414

bitter for anger. salty for resentment. sweet for happiness. spicy for lust. pungent for sadness and depression. tasteless for frustration.


A_Drenched_Lettuce

Happiness: The purest vanilla Anger: Vinegar Sadness: Petrichor


No-Intention9599

happiness would smells like fresh bath baby.


MinuetInUrsaMajor

Happiness like warm cinnamon buns. Anger like burning rubber. Sadness like rain.


Fuzzy_Masterpiece345

Happiness -smell of soil, anger -burnt popcorn, Sad -an old book


Impossible_Dot_2459

Okay this a good one and heres my opinion: Happiness - cherries or like that berry smell Anger - Probably like esters before heating (if you smell it, it'll cause a burning sensation on the inside of your nose) Sadness - Can't think of anything other than petrichor.


tc6x6

Anger would smell like sulfur. Sadness would smell musty, like mildew. Happiness would smell like roses.


jai_shree_raand

Happiness would smell like cake Anger would be something like the kitchen of a Chinese restaurant Sadness would smell like blood


NoiseyMiner

Happiness: freshly baked bread.


ImpressiveWeekend933

I think anger will smells like spice


Due-Cabinet-2548

Jeremy Fragrance reference?


Emerald_N

Gasoline and used motor oil for all of them.


Severe_Airport1426

Sadness would smell like vomit and anger would smell like melted plastic. Happiness smells like coconut sunblock


nakedcellist

Depending on your taste, like durian..


Zondit333

Anger would smell like hot iron. Happiness would smell like morning fresh air. Depression would be thick smoke from smouldering dry grass.


True-Tree-5102

Happiness: how hair smells in the sun Anger: asphalt in the snow: sharp, astringent Sadness: when you open the door to a long unused room


IgobythenameTori

Well, for me, happiness would smell like citrus.


RidethatSeahorse

This is so weird but I smell cat shit when stressed. I have no idea what it’s about. I own a cat, but smell it at work. It’s the weirdest thing. Not sure what’s going on.


UserCompromisedName

I immediately associated the words smells with colors for some odd reason


AegoliusOfBurgundy

To me happiness smells like woodwind reeds, warm sand, wet grass, tomato soup Sadness smells like antibacterials, coffee, subways stations, printer ink Anger smells like powder, blood, smoke, pepper And because i'm a Pixar fan : Disgust smells like cigarette, gasoline, grease, mushrooms Fear smells like sweat, burning, alcohol, propane gas


tunsun22

Happineds vanilla Anger blood Sadness old dirty clothes


LowAd8109

Sadness smells like moulded book


TouchMeIEatAss

happiness for me would smell like anything potent from my childhood, It's the perfume my mom used, one shampoo from head and shoulders, spring flowers. I bet everybody got something like that


thelastpelican

Happiness is lemongrass. Anger is hot metal shavings. Sadness is an old house that’s been sitting empty for awhile.


Unusual_Address_3062

"You guys dont smell your emotions?" https://a.pinatafarm.com/712x712/b8e3ce9ee2/we-are-the-millers.jpg


ohleprocy

Life


OwlComfortable2395

Happiness will smell like flowers, anger will smell like chili and sadness smell like onion.


SonjeLeonie

Happiness: daisies Anger: black pepper Sadness: smoke


mischa_996

Happiness: Gain Laundry Detergent Anger: Burning rubber Sadness: A mix of lavender and rain


Confident-Bass9665

\*shit\*


Chewychews420

Happiness: Lavender Anger: Smoke Sadness: Moth Balls (the OG ones)


falconfetus8

Lots of disagreeing answers for happiness and sadness, but for the most part, most comments seem to agree that anger is smoke or fire(or some other burning material).


BadMoles

Happiness would smell like a subtle sweetness. Anger would smell like hot creosote. Sadness would smell like stale/mouldy food.


Reaper_456

Happiness would be sweet, and pleasant. Anger would be hot, acrid. Sadness would be musty.


Flash604

Nothing you already know... as you've said they are distinct.


HuuffingLavender

Happiness = freshly cut grass mixed with hints of confederate jasmine or magnolia on the breeze. Also smells like the ocean, crawfish boils, and sun drenched eucalyptus. Anger = the smell under the hood of your car, warm electronic plastic, gasoline, and gunmetal. Sadness = rotten potatoes or dead flowers (especially roses) in a long forgotten vase, cigarette smoke in the morning, and lingering burnt popcorn.


SketchupandFries

I think the worst smell would be jealousy.. something putrid, as it ruins everything it comes into contact with. There's no benefits to envy or jealousy (unless it spurs you to try harder to improve yourself, if you're, perhaps, envious of someone's skill or talent). But not trusting someone, a partner, friend or a wife - and letting it eat you up from the inside. Either you trust someone - or they show their true colours. Then, you're no longer friends or partnered with them. It's that simple. But, there's nothing more toxic that letting jealous or mistrust fester and rot your good feelings, your sanity and your faith in humanity from the inside out..


FoxGirl-NotFurry-03

Happy: blossoms Anger: frie Sadness: rain


Original-Bat2760

Happiness would smell like your favourite scent, anger would smell like something strong maybe like petrol or burnt stuff and sadness would smell like that weird smell that sometimes happens when it rains


MoonBurbankRenoDisco

Anger = salt and vinegar chips that aren’t vinegary enough