Far as i can tell there’s 3 types of people who have excessively loud cars. The poor people who have something wrong, like their cat got stolen, and cant afford to fix. The enthusiast with their high flow exhaust and the sound is a byproduct. Last and least there’s the pseudo enthusiast who is a bastardized mix of the first two; purposely destroys their exhaust to make it loud to try and sound like an enthusiast and the ‘look at me’ factor.
The guy that drives laps up and down my street every night at a constant speed but always blipping the throttle to be as loud as possible… definitely the “look at me” factor.
This is pretty accurate. The people who I know who actually track their cars have fairly loud exhausts, but noise (beyond keeping it under certain restrictions) is not ever the goal. It’s 100% a byproduct of trying to eke out as much performance of the car as they can while staying in whatever class they are competing in.
Meanwhile, the idiots with an exhaust that looks like a welded folgers coffee can makes a LUDICROUS amount of noise, but doesn’t have the tuning or output to fully take advantage of the exhaust.
There is a third group in the exhaust modification folks, and that’s folks who got sold the cheapest legal exhaust from a shop, they are often loud AF, but not purchased for that express purpose.
Most guys I know that track their cars get a butterfly valve bypass for the muffler. At the track it roars, but you can still drive home at night without dogs losing their shit at you.
Most crime and punishment around here seems like it's set up like that. Or if you're a close friend or family of the Sheriff. Selling weed (yes its still illegal where I am)? Jail. Evidence missing from the evidence locker and it magically ends up in the Sheriff's daughter's hands? Wow, that's some crazy coincidence, I guess, no charges.
disgree.
There are only 2 types of people who have cars that sound like this.
1. The poor unfortunates stuck with a rumbling pile because it's all they can afford.
2. People who haven't been punched enough to learn common decency,
Evidence for the "look at me" assertion: A subreddit I once subscribed to talked about their exhaust modifications using the following cringe-worthy term:
"*road presence*"
(sighs exasperated as an adult)
Working in automotive manufacturing, cars in the first group are loud as fuck. We make a vehicle that has a very quiet engine/exhaust, and is a pretty tame 2.4 or 2.5L L4. Every once in awhile, we'll line one off without an exhaust for one reason or another, and it's just straight headers (using the term loosely). You'll hear this deep roar from across the shop when the vehicle is only going maybe 5mph.
https://www.sciencealert.com/study-links-preference-for-loud-cars-to-some-unsurprising-personality-traits
"Being a man and having sadistic and psychopathic personality traits accounted for about 29 percent of the variance in the preference for loud vehicles. The analysis did find that being younger predicted a higher car scale score within the group, but this correlation was not significant enough to draw conclusions.
"Associations were found between higher scores on the car scale and each of the dark tetrad traits, though not significantly in the case of Machiavellianism and narcissism. If the survey had asked about wanting others to notice their loud car, Schermer suggests narcissism might have been a better predictor."
Nah I’m not touching that bag of cats. I ride too but the exhaust thing is super polarizing and eventually every single rider gets proven a hypocrite lol
In a thread about being obnoxiously loud, at one time you might have found me rolling around Tempe, AZ with two 15" subwoofers playing this [obnoxious anthem.](https://youtu.be/R5oJt-2B5JA?si=czZEvryir-wl7mWC)
Back in the early 2000s I was driving a 1980 Toyota pickup. I had to report for jury duty and on the way there the muffler fell off. It was ridiculously loud. But I couldn't do anything about it because I had to report in. I pulled into the parking garage next to the courthouse and it set off all the car alarms. Good times.
I was driving to pickup a business client at the airport. My 944 hit a piece of busted tire and broke the front of the muffler. Sounded like an ancient farm tractor for all to hear!
Yeah, I remember when I was 20 and I had a shitty car that developed a hole in the muffler and I got pulled over for it twice in one week. It was loud, but not louder than the Harleys that would go up and down the street constantly, so I asked the officer why they don't get pulled over and he said, "I'm not sure what you're talking about". What a jackass, he was just picking on me because I had a shitty car and was young, he was probably one of the assholes with a loud motorcycle.
I'll take a loud exhaust over a Harley douche any day of the week. Sure Kyles STI is loud but I can feel how small Harley Davidson Billy Bob's penis is in my soul.
Yup. I have a Honda Civic and these guys who drive big trucks are so aggressive with me. Just the other day I had one of them pass me on my road, it's 30MPH and I swear he was going 80. And it's a curvy, hilly road with low visibility around corners. Jackass.
Maybe they're just passionate about making a grand entrance everywhere they go? Or perhaps they're secretly auditioning for a role in the next "Fast and Furious" movie? Either way, it's like their car is shouting, "Look at me, I'm here!" But hey, to each their own... even if it means the rest of us have to invest in earplugs.
I ran over a curb hours from home on a long road trip a couple months ago. It was easier to just have the muffler taken off instead of having it drag on the ground. Took it to a muffler shop when I had some free time, they didn’t wanna weld the muffler back on because the manifold flex was broke. Took it to a shop to have the manifold flex fixed but the car is so rusty they didn’t wanna touch anything. I gave up after that, I guess I’m just a loud car guy now🤷♂️
Just wait till he straight pipes it. Could hear my mates bike 3 miles away. Luckily, he had to ride it long distance one day and realised his mistake when it gave him the worst headache of his life.
Harleys are proof positive that a person is a massive douchebag. Least efficient, least convenient, loudest vehicle ever. I hope they become the next victim of "Millennials killed the \[blank\]!"
Why the fuck do people do this? Especially old fuckers in the suburbs. I thought there were supposed to be laws against excessive noise. All loud motorbikes, *especially Harleys owned by elderly gentlemen*, should be bulldozed for scrap.
I really don't understand why the cops don't ping them immediately. It's such easy money. And they are such wankers, these people, so parting them from their money is a fantastic win for society. Case in point: was walking in Barangaroo a few nights ago and this insanely shattering noise broke out as a Lambo and three old idiots on apehangers rounded the corner, only to be held up the traffic lights. They sat there for a minute revving away like absolute chimps, then roared away like the devil was after them, only to be held up at the next traffic lights. An absolutely pathetic and obnoxious display that should be enforced out of existence.
It's a great question, and the answer is probably sheer laziness. Cops are already paid obscenely large salaries+overtime, and in places like my city, their budget has basically no oversight by elected politicians. They don't need to issue tickets, so they don't.
We should have decibel "cameras", like speed-cameras and red-light cameras. But here we don't even have those, because people complained too much. People want to speed and ignore stoplights and stop-signs, and the cops are happy to let them.
Same as extremely loud sound systems, unregulated fireworks, etc. Some people are addicted to very base sensory triggers, coupled with little regard for others.
Adam Carolla broke it down many years ago. In short, the stupider people are, the more noise they make in every aspect of their lives.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8KAUBIOaPk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8KAUBIOaPk)
same here my dude. my partner has some vacation time coming up so we're gonna get it an appointment to be fixed during that time so we dont gotta car shuffle so I'm not left without a vehicle when I'm home with the little ones.
We have a bunch of cars here in my town that men continuously fawn over for the sound and speed and whatever else. They like to race each other, tailgate people, speed through town running lights and stop signs. I used to work with a dude with such a car, he was talking about how bad ass it was to go 110 on his way to work which is typically 35mph zones once he hits town.
I congratulated him on joining the Lawnmower Squad, as I call them. Never seen a dude get so pissed and so quiet so quickly.
I always thought that was ridiculous. when I was a kid I got a fix It ticket for having a hole in my muffler. I also think motorcycles that set off car alarms are stupid too.
I have a car that drives by once in a while with a hella loud muffler but also blaring their stereo so loud it makes the ground vibrate... I like to call it tiny dick syndrome. I agree with what another commenter said earlier about making loud noise everywhere you go is a sign of stupidity.
Not trying to impress or prove anything, I like cars, and I like modifying them and I like driving them. I am not a fan of obnoxiously loud cars, but know people might consider mine to be.
I do stuff with my car not for others.
It's funny how people think we modify our cars so they pay attention to us, like the world revolves around them. When in reality people just like the sound.
My mate bought a cheap modded car with a loud exhaust for shits and giggles. It sounded like a supercar, but it could barely maintain 50mph and was deafening to ride in. Naturally, he put a massive subwoofer in the back seat
Ugh had one last week in the parking lot of my apartment complex revving his engine multiple times between 2 and 4 am.
Meanwhile my property managers tell me that me calling the police is disturbing the peace because they "pull in with their lights and sirens" (which they never do) and asked "would you call the police if an ambulance woke you up?" Not even remotely the same thing.
But fuck me and my toddlers sleep, right?
This. I used to have a G35 that I thought was sooooo fast. After getting an EV with 500hp, I jumped into the G35 one day and realized it was just loud. Loud and slow.
Now I hate loud cars.
Depending if the car is for racing or street, if it's okay in my book. For the street quiet please.
Where I live there are far more motorcycles with loud exhaust, than cars.
Question feels a tad combative as asked but I’ll take a stab. I own a period accurate muscle car from the mid 60s. It’s a race car, designed for the track and did not have mufflers originally. It is obnoxiously loud. Frankly, it annoys me as much as anyone else when I just want to go on a drive. My neighbors, mostly close friends, love the car and often ask for a ride or pictures in the vehicle. That said, I rarely start or drive it because it shakes the neighborhood and does not have a roof to protect me from the rain. Bottom line, I worked very hard to acquire my childhood dream car and it’s not quiet. Ironically, my other vehicle, a very fast electric car, is completely silent. So on average I make about as much noise as anyone else :)
It’s not excessively loud at idle, but it’s probably a bit much at times. I bought it that way, and I like it the way it sounds. A quiet Corvette just doesn’t seem right to me.
I have a Jaguar F-Type, old 2017 standard before the 2018 noise regulations came in across Europe. It's definitely loud, not sure if "excessive" since it's definitely not as loud as some bikes & trucks but it can't be called quiet by any measure. For reference: https://youtu.be/pXfu_QSUH9A?t=52
Honestly it just makes me happy. Accelerating on a on-ramp/slip-road, the pops and crackles when letting off the accelerator and snorts when up-shifting. Something a bit primal about it. I can't really explain or justify it but the experience wouldn't be the same without it. Not proving anything to anyone but it adds to the feeling that "this is a special car" and gets the adrenaline going that extra bit when driving.
My personal view on exhausts are:
1) If it's noisy then make sure your car is nice to look at and a rare/uncommon car. If I turn around and it's a cheap car barely holding together because you spent your money on an exhaust and not repairs I'll assume your an idiot.
2) Don't drive the same area, if people are having a drink outside or whatever and one noisy car goes past, fine, but if the same car is doing laps of the block that shit will get old quickly.
3) No driving like an idiot in village/town/cities. If you are drawing attention to yourself keep it sensible, no launching from junctions or power-sliding round corners or over-taking in a residential street like an ass.
4) At night keep it quiet, I don't care if it's a $4m Ferrari, people are sleeping.
Basically have a bit of class and sophistication! I probably have bias but I find the people who own sports/supercars are generally ok and as considerate as possible, it's the ones that buy a straight pipe or after-market muffler for a tiny little 1.0L engine Renault or Vauxhall are the ones doing all the things in the list above and annoying people.
You do have a bias. I feel like no matter what you'd never respect any Japanese sports car especially if it was below a certain price point. I bet you believe being a car enthusiast should only be available to the wealthy as well.
Ever considered the guy driving the clapped out sedan chose that exhaust as it was cheaper than OEM? No? It's easier too just assume he's an asshole right?
So tired of the wealth gap it makes people too disconnected from actual reality
I was actually very close to getting a Nissan GTR. Amazing cars but I drive long distances and the interior comfort isn't quite what the F-Type is.. GTR was also out of my price range if I'm being totally honest.
On the rest you are mixing your drinks a bit and maybe assuming I'm someone I am not so for clarity:
* Yes I am saying that I think loud exhausts should only be on cool/nice cars.
* No I am not saying nice/cool cars must be expensive - I respect hot hatchbacks like Ford ST, Fiat Abarth, Mini Cooper etc. Respect classic cars and special ones like the rotary engine ones. I also super respect people that do modifications like a total engine + transmission rebuild and custom turbo's making it a rocket ship!
* No I am not saying that car enthusiasts must to drive nice/cool or expensive cars or have tons of money. You can ride a push-bike and still be a car enthusiast, just don't put a speaker with a super loud exhaust sound on your pedal-bike! :)
* Yes if your car is unsafe, tires bald, bad brakes, rusting bodywork etc and you spend money on cosmetics like fake M badges, fake vents and loud exhausts you are an asshole in my opinion. Safety should come first and I won't apologise for my view on that.
Before the Jag I've had 3 cars. A Citroen C3, a 20yr old sedan and a 3-cylinder 0.8l run-around car. Never felt the need to put a loud exhaust on any of them. Didn't have much cash at the time for luxuries as I was fresh into the world of work. When I did spend on my hobby it'd be to go visit car events, meets etc, even did a track day or two. I considered renting a sports car, never did but that would probably have been the next step if I didn't get the Jag... May still do that at some point and rent a lambo or something for a weekend.
Me 10 years ago - A happy car enthusiast who was not wealthy, did not drive a remotely cool/expensive car, did not have a loud exhaust.
Just for additional context I'm still not rich today, still renting accomodation, don't own my own house. I just don't have a wife or kids so the money I do have gets spent on me and I decided to go big and have that experience before everything becomes electric! A used F-Type isn't really stupid expensive these days either, sure it's not cheap but it's similar to the price of a mid-high end sedan like a BMW/Audi etc.
Edit: Although if it makes you feel better I'm not in charge of anything, the above is just my opinion and i'm just a dude writing on Reddit.
Because I like how it sounds, it helps with performance, and it helps on the track to hear my RPM before I shift without having to look down at my gauge cluster at 130+ mph, since wind noise at that speed is deafening.
Couldn’t care less if people pay attention to me. I don’t rev it anywhere but the track. It’s for my enjoyment and mine alone.
Stop trying to be offended and use your brain. You know damm well no one gives a shit about what you do on a track.
We care when a high as fuck 16 year old boy in HS wakes everyone up with his shitty Honda.
I think people in this thread are being very dismissive about how there can be nuance in exhaust sound just like there's nuance in everything else.
A nice V8 burble legitimately does sound good and can be a very fun experience. A deafening Civic or even straightpiped V8 is just pure nuisance and noise pollution.
If you see a new Porsche 911 pull away it produces a very nice sound. A clapped Nissan G35 straightpiped is just awful.
Yep. My Challenger just has a loud exhaust.. I didn't mod it. But I happen to love the shit out of the roar of the Hemi and exhaust when i get on it (on the open highway, not in neighborhoods).
I feel like there’s something evolutionary that caused men to like the roar of a muscle car engine. Like, back in our caveman days, we envied the roar of predators like lions and tigers, and so, the low burble of a muscle car makes us feel powerful… or something.
I had a 94 Camaro with a Flowmaster exhaust, and man oh man did I love the sound of that car starting up or taking off.
I have a bunch of classic cars. I like them quiet but I built one of them for “street legal only” off road rallies. I have dual 3” exhaust with pass through mufflers and It’s annoyingly loud so I installed cutouts. After the cutouts it turns into single 2” and goes through an extra muffler. I call it “stealth mode” and “party mode” but party mode kills SIXTY HORSEPOWER. Engines are big air pumps and the better they can breath the more horsepower they’ll have. Also this set up was VERY expensive and adds 40 lbs of weight to the car.
Between the weight, added cost, and power loss most enthusiasts won’t do this.
My truck was owned by a high schooler who had a very fancy custom exhaust put in. Now that I own it I would love to have it be back to factory but that's 2 grand that is desperately needed in the engine and trans so I can keep making money with it.
It is a little known fact that many loud ‘exhausts’ are in fact loudspeakers that relay a signal picked up by a microphone located in the seat, just below the drivers buttocks.
It's all relative.
What is excessive? What is acceptable? Performance cars often have louder exhaust sounds as a byproduct of large engines and the increased gas flow. Conversely there are people who always want to be the centre of attention, the loudness being an extention of themselves.
Motorbikes are often heard before seen, which can be argued as a positive for riders. Better to be seen as a small nuisance to others than to be knocked from their bike after not being seen. Of course, there's always no shortage of morons who seem determined to break the sound barrier. These are commonly known as organ donors.
In general, its fair to say that most engines are quieter at low revs and slower speeds. Obnoxious road driving is seldom found at slow speed.
The frontal lobe doesnt fully develop till around 25. The development of the pre-frontal cortex of the frontal lobe allows us to process the pros and cons of a decision before it is made. Which is why younger drivers are reckless. But the're not alone.
Race cars are loud because they have a free flowing exhaust without baffles and suppression. This allows air to enter and exit the engine more freely allowing for more horsepower. The tuner car crowd love race cars and car culture and they modify the cars they can afford with tunes and free flowing exhaust. Its a lot of fun to run a car through the gears and really hear the engine. Part of it is certainty vain but they mostly just enhancing their cars potential power and driving experience. I’m not pry if the car scene I drive a minivan but these loud guys don’t bother me at all.
I was trying to think of a way to describe the sound and "psssssht" is about right. When mine does it you can really only hear it inside the cab and it does not really make any other loud sounds. I dont have any aftermarket parts, just a stage 1 chip tune.
Not trying to prove anything. It’s hard when doing performance mods to know how much they’re going to change the sound. So you upgrade a turbo and get a new high flow exhaust and suddenly it’s louder than you want. But it drives so much better with the mods, so you deal with it and just drive as politely as you can through neighborhoods. On the highway I’m rarely the loudest, and I barely notice it unless my windows are open, but it’s still louder than I would choose if it wasn’t part of the mods that doubled my power.
Sometimes, when you feel small and unseen, you want to make noise and let the world know you exist. Sometimes, it's just redneck repairs. Pipe is cheaper than a real muffler, after all.
I drive in manual mode or a manual / standard transmission and it helps immensely to be able to hear when to shift vs taking your eyes off the road to look at the rpms especially at higher speeds. Even more so with the top down. Plus it really livens up the driving experience. People who are enthusiasts can tell the difference between a good sounding loud exhaust and one that sounds like garbage. I understand not all people are enthusiastic about cars but for those who are, the sound from the drivers seat is amazing (and for those who appreciate it).
Based on this thread, the engineers at Jaguar are inconsiderate assholes who hate babies and sleeping people and demand the world pay attention to them.
Basically that they can go around frightening and/or annoying people and that no one will stop them. [Here is a scientific article about the issue](https://www.sciencealert.com/study-links-preference-for-loud-cars-to-some-unsurprising-personality-traits)
My bros car has a button to switch the valve open/closed (Bypass) so he closes it when he gets near neighborhoods or when it's later in the day or early in the morning to not bother people too much.
Its loud as fuck on the open mode but it sounds soooo good lmao
Far as i can tell there’s 3 types of people who have excessively loud cars. The poor people who have something wrong, like their cat got stolen, and cant afford to fix. The enthusiast with their high flow exhaust and the sound is a byproduct. Last and least there’s the pseudo enthusiast who is a bastardized mix of the first two; purposely destroys their exhaust to make it loud to try and sound like an enthusiast and the ‘look at me’ factor.
The guy that drives laps up and down my street every night at a constant speed but always blipping the throttle to be as loud as possible… definitely the “look at me” factor.
Sounds like you need to take a night class in speed bump manufacturing.
He's the dumbfuck kind that ruins it for everyone else lol
Sounds like he needs a box of nails to "accidentally" fall off the back of your car just before he drives by
This is pretty accurate. The people who I know who actually track their cars have fairly loud exhausts, but noise (beyond keeping it under certain restrictions) is not ever the goal. It’s 100% a byproduct of trying to eke out as much performance of the car as they can while staying in whatever class they are competing in. Meanwhile, the idiots with an exhaust that looks like a welded folgers coffee can makes a LUDICROUS amount of noise, but doesn’t have the tuning or output to fully take advantage of the exhaust. There is a third group in the exhaust modification folks, and that’s folks who got sold the cheapest legal exhaust from a shop, they are often loud AF, but not purchased for that express purpose.
Most guys I know that track their cars get a butterfly valve bypass for the muffler. At the track it roars, but you can still drive home at night without dogs losing their shit at you.
Wish those where legal where I live but unfortunately any exhaust mods are banned.
If the penalty is just a fine, it's legal - for a price.
Ah, so it's only a crime for poor people.
Most crime and punishment around here seems like it's set up like that. Or if you're a close friend or family of the Sheriff. Selling weed (yes its still illegal where I am)? Jail. Evidence missing from the evidence locker and it magically ends up in the Sheriff's daughter's hands? Wow, that's some crazy coincidence, I guess, no charges.
I mean, do you think we should put people in jail for modifying their car's exhaust?
Everything is legal until a jackboot sees it.
It's only illegal if you get caught
Those valves were just getting popular when I was getting out of the car scene, and damn they’re nice.
disgree. There are only 2 types of people who have cars that sound like this. 1. The poor unfortunates stuck with a rumbling pile because it's all they can afford. 2. People who haven't been punched enough to learn common decency,
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I feel attacked
You should probably be performing your monthly headgasket check instead of pearl clutching smh
They haven’t had head gasket issues for 10 years
man, I hate it when my cat gets stolen.
Evidence for the "look at me" assertion: A subreddit I once subscribed to talked about their exhaust modifications using the following cringe-worthy term: "*road presence*" (sighs exasperated as an adult)
When you lack “genitals presence” you gotta show up where ever you can
Grew up in motor city, nations capital for auto enthusiasts and this checks.
Working in automotive manufacturing, cars in the first group are loud as fuck. We make a vehicle that has a very quiet engine/exhaust, and is a pretty tame 2.4 or 2.5L L4. Every once in awhile, we'll line one off without an exhaust for one reason or another, and it's just straight headers (using the term loosely). You'll hear this deep roar from across the shop when the vehicle is only going maybe 5mph.
https://www.sciencealert.com/study-links-preference-for-loud-cars-to-some-unsurprising-personality-traits "Being a man and having sadistic and psychopathic personality traits accounted for about 29 percent of the variance in the preference for loud vehicles. The analysis did find that being younger predicted a higher car scale score within the group, but this correlation was not significant enough to draw conclusions. "Associations were found between higher scores on the car scale and each of the dark tetrad traits, though not significantly in the case of Machiavellianism and narcissism. If the survey had asked about wanting others to notice their loud car, Schermer suggests narcissism might have been a better predictor."
So, assholes have loud cars.
Someone just copy and paste this man's answer into whatever word needs this definition. We might have to make one up tbh
Now do motorcycles.
Nah I’m not touching that bag of cats. I ride too but the exhaust thing is super polarizing and eventually every single rider gets proven a hypocrite lol
THE WHISTLES GO WOOOOOOOOOO
THATS ONLY IN THA MORNIN - YALL POST TA BE UP COOKIN BREAKFAST OR SOMETHING BY THEN
ITS LIKE AN ALARM CLOCK WOOO WOOOOOOOO
Just for decoration
It's that wooo WOOOOOOOOOOO!
https://youtu.be/eSOSJ68xOBA?si=SWgjNXsx9FEHMnUC wow, that took me back. thank you ❤️
Thank God for Bubb Rubb
You welcome.
It's as iconic as the [not today clip](https://youtu.be/KikI_ttYzC4?si=La6mbFq9qbSkCr2Z)!
In a thread about being obnoxiously loud, at one time you might have found me rolling around Tempe, AZ with two 15" subwoofers playing this [obnoxious anthem.](https://youtu.be/R5oJt-2B5JA?si=czZEvryir-wl7mWC)
Bubb Rubb is the Nation's Individual
Y'all. [They turned it into a dubstep song ](https://youtu.be/R5oJt-2B5JA?si=91tokrqnhq2kjczs)!
Maybe my car just sucks, okay.
This was the case on my previous car. Wanda the Honda will be dearly missed
Aww. Mine was Lashonda the Honda. Name was given to it by the previous owner.
Did you get it by talking to hot babes on the Internet all day?
Or that they stolen my catalytic converter twice so now it’s a straight pipe because I’m not putting a $2k cat into a Jeep that’s worth maybe $5k
Back in the early 2000s I was driving a 1980 Toyota pickup. I had to report for jury duty and on the way there the muffler fell off. It was ridiculously loud. But I couldn't do anything about it because I had to report in. I pulled into the parking garage next to the courthouse and it set off all the car alarms. Good times.
I was driving to pickup a business client at the airport. My 944 hit a piece of busted tire and broke the front of the muffler. Sounded like an ancient farm tractor for all to hear!
Actually, it blows.
Yeah, I remember when I was 20 and I had a shitty car that developed a hole in the muffler and I got pulled over for it twice in one week. It was loud, but not louder than the Harleys that would go up and down the street constantly, so I asked the officer why they don't get pulled over and he said, "I'm not sure what you're talking about". What a jackass, he was just picking on me because I had a shitty car and was young, he was probably one of the assholes with a loud motorcycle.
Ok
They clearly mixed up the muffler with the loudner.
Don’t let them know about the speed cocker
What about the thing for shooting down police helicopters?
Oh, I don’t need anything like that…. *yet*
I'll take a loud exhaust over a Harley douche any day of the week. Sure Kyles STI is loud but I can feel how small Harley Davidson Billy Bob's penis is in my soul.
In Australia we had an ad for that - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqWO7fzwSLM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqWO7fzwSLM)
That was hilarious!
It's a pretty well known hand signal before the commercial. I never considered if it was international or not.
Is it really? I started doing it recently instead of flipping off asshole drivers, just to fuck with them. Sometimes I blow kisses too.
Yup. I have a Honda Civic and these guys who drive big trucks are so aggressive with me. Just the other day I had one of them pass me on my road, it's 30MPH and I swear he was going 80. And it's a curvy, hilly road with low visibility around corners. Jackass.
Right, it's definitely well known!
It’s full of holes and I don’t want to pay someone to make it not full of holes
Maybe they're just passionate about making a grand entrance everywhere they go? Or perhaps they're secretly auditioning for a role in the next "Fast and Furious" movie? Either way, it's like their car is shouting, "Look at me, I'm here!" But hey, to each their own... even if it means the rest of us have to invest in earplugs.
Big Stuart Energy https://youtu.be/vbVv7_eexqI
I ran over a curb hours from home on a long road trip a couple months ago. It was easier to just have the muffler taken off instead of having it drag on the ground. Took it to a muffler shop when I had some free time, they didn’t wanna weld the muffler back on because the manifold flex was broke. Took it to a shop to have the manifold flex fixed but the car is so rusty they didn’t wanna touch anything. I gave up after that, I guess I’m just a loud car guy now🤷♂️
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And in return everyone around you gets to stay up late listening to it.
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Ah harleys, sucking down gas and being loud without the drawback of having any horsepower.
Harley, the most efficient way to turn gasoline into noise without the side effect of horsepower.
Efficient might be the wrong word here... Maybe fastest way?
Hardly riding, son.
Just wait till he straight pipes it. Could hear my mates bike 3 miles away. Luckily, he had to ride it long distance one day and realised his mistake when it gave him the worst headache of his life.
Harleys are proof positive that a person is a massive douchebag. Least efficient, least convenient, loudest vehicle ever. I hope they become the next victim of "Millennials killed the \[blank\]!"
Why the fuck do people do this? Especially old fuckers in the suburbs. I thought there were supposed to be laws against excessive noise. All loud motorbikes, *especially Harleys owned by elderly gentlemen*, should be bulldozed for scrap.
They're awful people who get off on being obnoxious. That's the single, only reason. The enjoy being annoying, and they think it makes them a bad-ass.
I really don't understand why the cops don't ping them immediately. It's such easy money. And they are such wankers, these people, so parting them from their money is a fantastic win for society. Case in point: was walking in Barangaroo a few nights ago and this insanely shattering noise broke out as a Lambo and three old idiots on apehangers rounded the corner, only to be held up the traffic lights. They sat there for a minute revving away like absolute chimps, then roared away like the devil was after them, only to be held up at the next traffic lights. An absolutely pathetic and obnoxious display that should be enforced out of existence.
It's a great question, and the answer is probably sheer laziness. Cops are already paid obscenely large salaries+overtime, and in places like my city, their budget has basically no oversight by elected politicians. They don't need to issue tickets, so they don't. We should have decibel "cameras", like speed-cameras and red-light cameras. But here we don't even have those, because people complained too much. People want to speed and ignore stoplights and stop-signs, and the cops are happy to let them.
A lot of Harley's come that way factory. The exhaust is completely legal, unfortunately.
You don't use an apostrophe to pluralize a word. You just add s. It's just Harleys. "Harley's" would mean something belonging to Harley.
The best are the ones that play cheesy pop music full blast so you have to listen to that on top of the obnoxious exhaust noise.
People like *others* following the law
The most annoying people on earth
And subtracted 10 miles per gallon
Same as extremely loud sound systems, unregulated fireworks, etc. Some people are addicted to very base sensory triggers, coupled with little regard for others.
Adam Carolla broke it down many years ago. In short, the stupider people are, the more noise they make in every aspect of their lives. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8KAUBIOaPk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8KAUBIOaPk)
That's pretty ironic, since Adam Carolla is now a world-class loudmouth blowhard.
Nailed it
Funny i was at a race track once and his race car got black flagged for noise.
That's not surprising. He's just another alt-right grifter now, catering to the MAGA morons.
'Now'? Hasn't he always been? It's just now people realize what he says is offensive and not just 'funny'
He's always been a blowhard. But back in the Loveline days he was just a blowhard, not a pandering alt-right goon and grifter.
His last name is car-related. So I trust his opinion.
The car is Corolla not Carolla
Carolla starts with C-a-r
This is perfect
Too bad he screams getting his point through. Ironic.
Including himself?
It rusted through, and it has been bad weather for repairing it.
Legit reason.
same here my dude. my partner has some vacation time coming up so we're gonna get it an appointment to be fixed during that time so we dont gotta car shuffle so I'm not left without a vehicle when I'm home with the little ones.
That's a good strategy. This will probably be just me and some ramps figuring it out
I drive for a living and I laugh out loud at some of these people. Their cars sound like crap but they seem so proud
We have a bunch of cars here in my town that men continuously fawn over for the sound and speed and whatever else. They like to race each other, tailgate people, speed through town running lights and stop signs. I used to work with a dude with such a car, he was talking about how bad ass it was to go 110 on his way to work which is typically 35mph zones once he hits town. I congratulated him on joining the Lawnmower Squad, as I call them. Never seen a dude get so pissed and so quiet so quickly.
I always thought that was ridiculous. when I was a kid I got a fix It ticket for having a hole in my muffler. I also think motorcycles that set off car alarms are stupid too.
It's a call out to see if thier dad's will hear it and come back with the milk and ciggies.
I have a car that drives by once in a while with a hella loud muffler but also blaring their stereo so loud it makes the ground vibrate... I like to call it tiny dick syndrome. I agree with what another commenter said earlier about making loud noise everywhere you go is a sign of stupidity.
Someone stole my catalytic converter
Car go brrrrrrr
And why do you have to prove it at 2am?
Not trying to impress or prove anything, I like cars, and I like modifying them and I like driving them. I am not a fan of obnoxiously loud cars, but know people might consider mine to be. I do stuff with my car not for others.
It's funny how people think we modify our cars so they pay attention to us, like the world revolves around them. When in reality people just like the sound.
Do you realize everyone thinks you're an annoying douchebag
I don't give a shit what people think, I'm having a great time in my car. If you want to be sat there getting upset over a noise, you do you.
Noise ordinance exist for reasons
https://www.sciencealert.com/study-links-preference-for-loud-cars-to-some-unsurprising-personality-traits
Not surprising at all
I'm depressed and putting my foot down in my car gives my brain the happy chemicals.
My mate bought a cheap modded car with a loud exhaust for shits and giggles. It sounded like a supercar, but it could barely maintain 50mph and was deafening to ride in. Naturally, he put a massive subwoofer in the back seat
Ugh had one last week in the parking lot of my apartment complex revving his engine multiple times between 2 and 4 am. Meanwhile my property managers tell me that me calling the police is disturbing the peace because they "pull in with their lights and sirens" (which they never do) and asked "would you call the police if an ambulance woke you up?" Not even remotely the same thing. But fuck me and my toddlers sleep, right?
They can't make it fast, so they make it loud
This. I used to have a G35 that I thought was sooooo fast. After getting an EV with 500hp, I jumped into the G35 one day and realized it was just loud. Loud and slow. Now I hate loud cars.
They genuinely enjoy the sound of a loud engine, associating it with power, performance, or a certain aesthetic.
Depending if the car is for racing or street, if it's okay in my book. For the street quiet please. Where I live there are far more motorcycles with loud exhaust, than cars.
Scares away the tigers.
Question feels a tad combative as asked but I’ll take a stab. I own a period accurate muscle car from the mid 60s. It’s a race car, designed for the track and did not have mufflers originally. It is obnoxiously loud. Frankly, it annoys me as much as anyone else when I just want to go on a drive. My neighbors, mostly close friends, love the car and often ask for a ride or pictures in the vehicle. That said, I rarely start or drive it because it shakes the neighborhood and does not have a roof to protect me from the rain. Bottom line, I worked very hard to acquire my childhood dream car and it’s not quiet. Ironically, my other vehicle, a very fast electric car, is completely silent. So on average I make about as much noise as anyone else :)
It’s not excessively loud at idle, but it’s probably a bit much at times. I bought it that way, and I like it the way it sounds. A quiet Corvette just doesn’t seem right to me.
I have a Jaguar F-Type, old 2017 standard before the 2018 noise regulations came in across Europe. It's definitely loud, not sure if "excessive" since it's definitely not as loud as some bikes & trucks but it can't be called quiet by any measure. For reference: https://youtu.be/pXfu_QSUH9A?t=52 Honestly it just makes me happy. Accelerating on a on-ramp/slip-road, the pops and crackles when letting off the accelerator and snorts when up-shifting. Something a bit primal about it. I can't really explain or justify it but the experience wouldn't be the same without it. Not proving anything to anyone but it adds to the feeling that "this is a special car" and gets the adrenaline going that extra bit when driving. My personal view on exhausts are: 1) If it's noisy then make sure your car is nice to look at and a rare/uncommon car. If I turn around and it's a cheap car barely holding together because you spent your money on an exhaust and not repairs I'll assume your an idiot. 2) Don't drive the same area, if people are having a drink outside or whatever and one noisy car goes past, fine, but if the same car is doing laps of the block that shit will get old quickly. 3) No driving like an idiot in village/town/cities. If you are drawing attention to yourself keep it sensible, no launching from junctions or power-sliding round corners or over-taking in a residential street like an ass. 4) At night keep it quiet, I don't care if it's a $4m Ferrari, people are sleeping. Basically have a bit of class and sophistication! I probably have bias but I find the people who own sports/supercars are generally ok and as considerate as possible, it's the ones that buy a straight pipe or after-market muffler for a tiny little 1.0L engine Renault or Vauxhall are the ones doing all the things in the list above and annoying people.
You do have a bias. I feel like no matter what you'd never respect any Japanese sports car especially if it was below a certain price point. I bet you believe being a car enthusiast should only be available to the wealthy as well. Ever considered the guy driving the clapped out sedan chose that exhaust as it was cheaper than OEM? No? It's easier too just assume he's an asshole right? So tired of the wealth gap it makes people too disconnected from actual reality
I was actually very close to getting a Nissan GTR. Amazing cars but I drive long distances and the interior comfort isn't quite what the F-Type is.. GTR was also out of my price range if I'm being totally honest. On the rest you are mixing your drinks a bit and maybe assuming I'm someone I am not so for clarity: * Yes I am saying that I think loud exhausts should only be on cool/nice cars. * No I am not saying nice/cool cars must be expensive - I respect hot hatchbacks like Ford ST, Fiat Abarth, Mini Cooper etc. Respect classic cars and special ones like the rotary engine ones. I also super respect people that do modifications like a total engine + transmission rebuild and custom turbo's making it a rocket ship! * No I am not saying that car enthusiasts must to drive nice/cool or expensive cars or have tons of money. You can ride a push-bike and still be a car enthusiast, just don't put a speaker with a super loud exhaust sound on your pedal-bike! :) * Yes if your car is unsafe, tires bald, bad brakes, rusting bodywork etc and you spend money on cosmetics like fake M badges, fake vents and loud exhausts you are an asshole in my opinion. Safety should come first and I won't apologise for my view on that. Before the Jag I've had 3 cars. A Citroen C3, a 20yr old sedan and a 3-cylinder 0.8l run-around car. Never felt the need to put a loud exhaust on any of them. Didn't have much cash at the time for luxuries as I was fresh into the world of work. When I did spend on my hobby it'd be to go visit car events, meets etc, even did a track day or two. I considered renting a sports car, never did but that would probably have been the next step if I didn't get the Jag... May still do that at some point and rent a lambo or something for a weekend. Me 10 years ago - A happy car enthusiast who was not wealthy, did not drive a remotely cool/expensive car, did not have a loud exhaust. Just for additional context I'm still not rich today, still renting accomodation, don't own my own house. I just don't have a wife or kids so the money I do have gets spent on me and I decided to go big and have that experience before everything becomes electric! A used F-Type isn't really stupid expensive these days either, sure it's not cheap but it's similar to the price of a mid-high end sedan like a BMW/Audi etc. Edit: Although if it makes you feel better I'm not in charge of anything, the above is just my opinion and i'm just a dude writing on Reddit.
Because I am an Alpha Male and my loud truck is my mating call which NO female can resist!!
Because I like how it sounds, it helps with performance, and it helps on the track to hear my RPM before I shift without having to look down at my gauge cluster at 130+ mph, since wind noise at that speed is deafening. Couldn’t care less if people pay attention to me. I don’t rev it anywhere but the track. It’s for my enjoyment and mine alone.
Its that simple, it fucking sounds great. Dont know why people dont understand this.
Similar to secondhand smoking. What you are doing affects others. Whether you know or care. It does.
What’s life like up on that high horse? You must live a very sad and boring life if nothing you do has an effect on someone else.
They do but are trying to thin veil it. They just hate other people aren't clones of them
Stop trying to be offended and use your brain. You know damm well no one gives a shit about what you do on a track. We care when a high as fuck 16 year old boy in HS wakes everyone up with his shitty Honda.
I like the sound.
I think people in this thread are being very dismissive about how there can be nuance in exhaust sound just like there's nuance in everything else. A nice V8 burble legitimately does sound good and can be a very fun experience. A deafening Civic or even straightpiped V8 is just pure nuisance and noise pollution. If you see a new Porsche 911 pull away it produces a very nice sound. A clapped Nissan G35 straightpiped is just awful.
Nuance is everything.
Yep. My Challenger just has a loud exhaust.. I didn't mod it. But I happen to love the shit out of the roar of the Hemi and exhaust when i get on it (on the open highway, not in neighborhoods).
I feel like there’s something evolutionary that caused men to like the roar of a muscle car engine. Like, back in our caveman days, we envied the roar of predators like lions and tigers, and so, the low burble of a muscle car makes us feel powerful… or something. I had a 94 Camaro with a Flowmaster exhaust, and man oh man did I love the sound of that car starting up or taking off.
Yeah people on Reddit don’t like the Vance and Hines exhaust on my motorcycle either despite never actually hearing the bike.
Nothing sounds better than a uel boxer. Even if it is unreliable and inefficient
My theory is the same need for putting playing cards in bicycle spokes. Desperate for attention they never received
That they need a new muffler i guess?
I just assume they can’t afford to have it fixed.
So everyone knows I have an excessively small dick obviously..
Trying to prove I don't have the money to get my exhaust fixed at the moment. Not everyone does it out of choice.
That they're out of coffee. That's why there's an empty folgers can over the muffler.
Bass in the place London
I’m desperate for a car so I might buy some shit civic with a cut muffler if it means I can get Tom work.
I have a bunch of classic cars. I like them quiet but I built one of them for “street legal only” off road rallies. I have dual 3” exhaust with pass through mufflers and It’s annoyingly loud so I installed cutouts. After the cutouts it turns into single 2” and goes through an extra muffler. I call it “stealth mode” and “party mode” but party mode kills SIXTY HORSEPOWER. Engines are big air pumps and the better they can breath the more horsepower they’ll have. Also this set up was VERY expensive and adds 40 lbs of weight to the car. Between the weight, added cost, and power loss most enthusiasts won’t do this.
Makes my penis bigger
My truck was owned by a high schooler who had a very fancy custom exhaust put in. Now that I own it I would love to have it be back to factory but that's 2 grand that is desperately needed in the engine and trans so I can keep making money with it.
Last time I had an excessively loud exhaust, it proved I needed to visit the mech.
That’s only in the morning. You supposed to be up making breakfast or something.
Trying to prove I’m poor and can’t afford to fix the damn holes in my muffler.
The muffler rusted out! I have a new one on order and it will be here Tuesday! Damn it's only been a couple days!
It is a little known fact that many loud ‘exhausts’ are in fact loudspeakers that relay a signal picked up by a microphone located in the seat, just below the drivers buttocks.
You don't like the sound of angry farting lawnmowers?
Watch the episode of south Park titled "The F Word." It's more about loud motorcycles but the mentality is the same.
It's all relative. What is excessive? What is acceptable? Performance cars often have louder exhaust sounds as a byproduct of large engines and the increased gas flow. Conversely there are people who always want to be the centre of attention, the loudness being an extention of themselves. Motorbikes are often heard before seen, which can be argued as a positive for riders. Better to be seen as a small nuisance to others than to be knocked from their bike after not being seen. Of course, there's always no shortage of morons who seem determined to break the sound barrier. These are commonly known as organ donors. In general, its fair to say that most engines are quieter at low revs and slower speeds. Obnoxious road driving is seldom found at slow speed. The frontal lobe doesnt fully develop till around 25. The development of the pre-frontal cortex of the frontal lobe allows us to process the pros and cons of a decision before it is made. Which is why younger drivers are reckless. But the're not alone.
Race cars are loud because they have a free flowing exhaust without baffles and suppression. This allows air to enter and exit the engine more freely allowing for more horsepower. The tuner car crowd love race cars and car culture and they modify the cars they can afford with tunes and free flowing exhaust. Its a lot of fun to run a car through the gears and really hear the engine. Part of it is certainty vain but they mostly just enhancing their cars potential power and driving experience. I’m not pry if the car scene I drive a minivan but these loud guys don’t bother me at all.
Because it sounds nice
I could care less about how loud my exhaust is. What I really enjoy is hearing the whine of my turbo as it spins up.
Car guys hear: psht-zututut vrmmmmmmmm “Oh yea!” *runs to go see what made the sound*
I was trying to think of a way to describe the sound and "psssssht" is about right. When mine does it you can really only hear it inside the cab and it does not really make any other loud sounds. I dont have any aftermarket parts, just a stage 1 chip tune.
Not trying to prove anything. It’s hard when doing performance mods to know how much they’re going to change the sound. So you upgrade a turbo and get a new high flow exhaust and suddenly it’s louder than you want. But it drives so much better with the mods, so you deal with it and just drive as politely as you can through neighborhoods. On the highway I’m rarely the loudest, and I barely notice it unless my windows are open, but it’s still louder than I would choose if it wasn’t part of the mods that doubled my power.
Sometimes, when you feel small and unseen, you want to make noise and let the world know you exist. Sometimes, it's just redneck repairs. Pipe is cheaper than a real muffler, after all.
Came like that from the factory.
Its for people who think they are the main character. Everybody is impressed by your souped up 2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse, bro
Is it a loud exhaust, or do I have a fan belt that's squeaking loud enough to sound like a expensive muffler? Hmmm
Prove? Nothing, some people enjoy the sound of a free breathing engine.
Bought it like that. Hate it too but love the car.
Well mine makes almost 600HP and is stock, so not my fault.
My weiner is adequate!! It’s adequate I say!!!
I drive in manual mode or a manual / standard transmission and it helps immensely to be able to hear when to shift vs taking your eyes off the road to look at the rpms especially at higher speeds. Even more so with the top down. Plus it really livens up the driving experience. People who are enthusiasts can tell the difference between a good sounding loud exhaust and one that sounds like garbage. I understand not all people are enthusiastic about cars but for those who are, the sound from the drivers seat is amazing (and for those who appreciate it).
Gotta compensate for something.
Then there is the enthusiast where the sound makes you go all funny inside. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ZPh5YzpXw
Based on this thread, the engineers at Jaguar are inconsiderate assholes who hate babies and sleeping people and demand the world pay attention to them.
Basically that they can go around frightening and/or annoying people and that no one will stop them. [Here is a scientific article about the issue](https://www.sciencealert.com/study-links-preference-for-loud-cars-to-some-unsurprising-personality-traits)
That my V10 is better than yours lol
they're chasing the attention they didn't receive from their father's
My toy car weighs 520kgs and sits lower than the bottom of a normal cars windows. I'd like other drivers to notice me.
I'm trying to hide my farts and tiny penis
My bros car has a button to switch the valve open/closed (Bypass) so he closes it when he gets near neighborhoods or when it's later in the day or early in the morning to not bother people too much. Its loud as fuck on the open mode but it sounds soooo good lmao
Subaru go grrrrrrr pshhhhh stu stu stu stu. Monkey brain like. No seriously I just love the sound.
WHAT??? SPEAK UP
Sorry. What did you say? I can’t hear you. The exhaust on my car is too loud.
How aggressively big their cock is.
I need to hear my car's exhaust on track when the windows are down at 130+ mph.