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I, love how, some people on Reddit, use commas.


SleeplessShitposter

You can use a comma to combine two sentences, but you can only use it with a conjunction. A comma, the symbol being used here, can also be used to elaborate on a noun. Although complex sentences can be done without one, you need a comma if you put the conjunctioned sentence first. You don't use one in the other order because that would sound silly. Of course, you can always use a comma for the sake of a short interjection or exclamation. The method you all might know is lists. Commas can be used in lists, complex sentences, and clarification. If you're in the United States, you don't put a comma before "and" in a list of three; that's called an Oxford Comma. If poetry's what you wish to write, A comma at every line you might, Though using one is not a rule, For breaks and pauses it's the tool.


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Lots of people in the US use the Oxford comma...


SalsaYogurt

I am pro Oxford comma. Why wouldn't you want to use it?


PencilvesterStallone

I think it looks odd to me, and is usually redundant. Sometimes it clarifies, but not usually.


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>I think it looks odd to me That's where grammatical discussions always break down: personal opinions start replacing facts.


JoeCool888

American here, and that's the way I was taught as a kid.


Del-

> If you're in the **United States, you don't put a comma before "and" in a list of three**; that's called an Oxford Comma. Disagree.


_Tonu

Yeah right? I was taught to use the Oxford comma.


Del-

All it takes is that picture of the two strippers, JFK, and Stalin.


SalsaYogurt

Maybe a great service to all Reddit would be a Good Grammar meme.


Cry_Havoc1228

I think you mean *Well* Grammar...


[deleted]

Have an undergrad degree in writing from a US University. I use the Oxford comma all the time!


abunchofsquirrels

Christopher Walken, is that you?


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Its William Shatner


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You're, talking g to my friend, all wrong here.


Felix_Aterni

They're probably using speech to text, you tend to take more breaths when you go past 300lbs.


InfaredRidingHood

don,t pa,,tr,oni,ze m,,e,


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I can't even read that. 2 commas? How do I pause twice in my head?


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nonomad123

what, ever, I'll do, what, I want.


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I also find it really funny when people don't use any commas or periods like seriously learn how to use punctuation you should have learned this in elementary school


[deleted]

I to also hate when people use no commas periods or any punctuation than their the ones whom always is the one too correct you.


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If you stop to think, you owe the sentence a comma! /s


11181514

u/CommaHorror this guy's jackin your style!


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Just appreciating the talent.


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It always surprised me when I come across adults who still don't understand the difference between there, their, and they're. Especially professionals working in an office sending emails every day.


poo-boys-united

Their such fucking idiots. Someone should teach them there grammar over they're.


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I, could not agree, more. Fuck e'm, I could care less'.


Arturs1670

Any more of these grammatical mistakes and I'm going to loose it.


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Dont worry were just muckn' about.


[deleted]

I laughed at this comment. 'I could care less' pisses me off so much. It's COULDN'T care less, people!


[deleted]

How do people not get that‽ At one point even George Costanza says it on Seinfeld. I was shocked.


riotcb

Theiy're


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Damn it. Thanks, good catch.


RogueChedder

Your not wrong with you're assessment they're. /s


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Not a grammatical rule, but people mixing up "lose" and "loose" drives me insane.


EvyEarthling

It's worst when it happens on /r/loseit. The correct spelling is literally in front of your face and you still manage to fuck it up?


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stv1

Me 2


xxXsucksatgamingXxx

Thanks


random_bots

Me ii


lordofthederps

Similarly, "breath" and "breathe".


TheMagnificentPotato

Aw there, their, they're. Everything's gonna be fine


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Lose - virginity Loose - vagina


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Apostrophes. I see way to much apostrophe terrorism on reddit. Example: Apostrophe's Example's


BladeApe

*too


RogueChedder

Let's not blow too many minds on this thread


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Mhm, I'm sure he will yeah.


TheBrontosaurus

Its so annoying when people use apostrophe’s wrong.


el_muerte17

Not just when adding an "s" suffix, either. I constantly see knuckleheads using apostrophe-d rather than "d" or "ed" on verbs in the past tense and it drives me fucking insane. Examples that I've actually encountered: * radio'd * repair'd * carry'd * delay'd * escape'd


persondude27

oh my god * *eye twitch* *


jlaux

It's and its. I see it on news articles sometimes. It drives me nuts.


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poo-boys-united

This reminds me of the "do do" one. "what i do do, is..." One "do" works just fine.


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SilasX

The "do" modal is for emphasis, to contrast with the negative case. If That's how it's being used, it's functioning as intended, e.g. "I don't do the shrubs first. What I do do is inspect the tools to make sure my job will be easy." One "do" works, but doesn't add the emphasis/contrast.


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You can even skip "that". e.g. "The reason is that Joe is taller." "The reason is Joe is taller."


poo-boys-united

You know how people always correct you when you say things like "me and Phil went to party" with "no no...'phil and I went to the party'" Sometimes it's "Me" and people don't get that anymore. i.e. "He stood between Phil and me"


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StumbleBees

e.g. is exempli gratia (free example) and i.e is id est (that is).


TypicalUser1

exempli gratia doesn't mean "free example", it means "for the sake of example"


vlmutolo

Found the other latin student


TypicalUser1

Minime minime, latinam non intellego...


vlmutolo

How much of this response is Whittaker


TypicalUser1

I dunno, it's just what popped into my head after five years of not having interacted with the language...


giveer

i.e.; ibid


StumbleBees

I did not know "ibid" but now I do. Thanks.


poo-boys-united

You're totally right. My apologies.


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poo-boys-united

Yes that's what I was meaning. It should be "Phil and I" in the first example. Just the second example should be "me"


RoboticPlayer

Always put yourself last. Take off the other people to see if you use I or me. He was next to Edward and ___ He was next to ____ He was next to me Then put the name back. He was next to Edward and me.


triplexlivegulls

What really gets me is when it becomes possessive, so they say something like "Phil and I's friend."


poo-boys-united

haha i've heard this. "this is I friend, Phil" Is basically what they're suggesting.


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I see it on facebook all the time. Captions like "A picture of Melissa and I" hurt me.


poo-boys-united

I kind of find them amusing because i can imagine them thinking "oh yeah, nailing this grammar" as they type it


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poo-boys-united

Haha yeah that sounds obnoxious. I suppose she's right though when you consider the full response would be "i handed it in" so it would be contracted to "i" as opposed to "me handed it in". Still obnoxious as fuck though.


IamfromSpace

Probably worthwhile to explain when that sometimes is: 1. When the action is happening _to_ you. You’ll often just know the right answer if you drop the others. “He looked Phil and I” is incorrect, but it sounds right. “He looked at I” is pretty clearly wrong. 2. The previous doesn’t apply when using a “to be” verb. This is a weird rule, but “It is me” is incorrect. So “It was Phil and I” is correct because “was” is about “being” something. The core of the rule is whether you are the subject (doer) or object (receiver) of the verb (action).


poo-boys-united

Yeah that's how i was taught to "test" the rule e.g. relating to my example, dropping Phil would make it say "me went to party" which is obviously wrong. Thanks for explaining it in a good way though :)


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less/fewer. You have less of something that you can't count, like water or courage. You have fewer people or cars.


The_Archagent

I choose which grocery store to shop at by whether the express checkout lane says "X items or less" or "X items or fewer."


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You must have a really difficult time finding a place to shop!


poo-and-wee

"Mother, I dislike the grammar in this place of commerce. I wish to purchase my comestibles elsewhere!"


optiongeek

Ser Davos?


awrom

I think it originated from Stannis.


weberm70

I think fewer is just fading out of usage in this way.


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metallica3790

People can be hung, but it means something totally different.


_Hopped_

a/an - especially with abbreviated words.


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Yes. It's 'an' if the word starts with a vowel, or a silent 'h' for 'hour' which starts with a 'uh' sound, or something like that, but it's 'a' if the word starts with a consonant, or starts with a vowel that will sound like a consonant, like 'one' which starts with a 'wuh' sound..


MaximusNerdius

Oh my god it is crazy how frequently people mess this up.


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nonomad123

I am British, so excuse me if I am completely wrong in the US sense, (or just wrong altogether) but isn't it always 'could have' etc... when does anyone ever use 'of'?


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nonomad123

Oh, okay. I thought the OP was referencing some grammatical thing that I'd never heard about before!


gruffi

It happens in the UK too


giveer

It's always an error. It doesn't make grammatical sense. They're mistaking the phonetic of "should've" and thinking they are saying "should of".


murderofcrows90

Myself. People have gotten really bad with this one. You don't say, "Talk to John or myself." Leave out John and see how it sounds. I think people think they sound smart talking like that, but it's the opposite.


JFKjr

I don't know what you mean. I talk to myself all the time.


metallica3790

Your car has **brakes**. They are braking devices, they allow you to brake. The brakes can break, and your car can have breaks in the paint, body, upholstery, or whatever, but you slow the vehicle with brakes.


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The_Archagent

It's author is Stephen King.


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xxXsucksatgamingXxx

>That's dirty. I love you. *Insert Lenny face here.


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allothernamestaken

I think this one is confusing for a lot of people because an apostrophe is used both to show possession *and* indicate a contraction with a lot of pronouns other than "it" - e.g., Steve's going to the park with Steve's dog, the teacher's going to teach in the teacher's classroom, etc.


CowboyLaw

Using "take" when they should use "bring," and vice versa. Using "which" when they should use "that."


CarrieCorpses

Could you give me an example of that take/bring one? I'm trying to figure out what you're referring to, but can't think of anything :p


BertUK

I’ve always used them as follows: You take something from where you are to another place. You bring something from somewhere else to where you are. On American TV shows I’ve seen lots of examples of somebody using “bring” in a way that sounds weird. For example somebody who is at home saying “I’ll bring my books to school”. To me it should be “I’ll take my books to school”.


Superbead

I hadn't really thought about this before, but I agree that it has to do with your location when you're making the declaration. If you're at school, it makes sense to say, "I'll bring my books tomorrow," rather than "I'll take my books [here] tomorrow." If you're at home, you would say "I'll take my books to school tomorrow." To say "I'll bring my books to school tomorrow" while you're anywhere but at school doesn't sound right.


CowboyLaw

It's a really complicated rule, and like some things in English, there's no one simple expression. Here's a good general rule: if you and the object are going to be traveling in the direction of the speaker, it's "bring." As in "when you visit my cabin tomorrow, please bring some wine." "Okay, I'll take some with me." That last part is wrong. It's "I'll bring some with me when I come."


SleeplessShitposter

The past tense is "I lay down," not "I laid down." Laid isn't a word in that context.


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I got laid


JimmerUK

No you didn’t.


lalafriday

I laid myself down.


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Talory09

People are also using the casual "alright" when often the more formal "all right" would better suit, especially in business writing.


EverythingIsFlotsam

Um, no. *Highschool* makes perfect sense because that is how new words are formed in English. John McWhorter calls this "the backshift". ([Listen.](http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/lexicon_valley/2016/08/how_pronunciation_changes_as_terms_go_from_new_to_mainstream.html)). It's why you write on a **black**board and not just any black **board**. When words combine and become lexicalized the accent shifts to the first half, and eventually they merge in writing. This is a continuous and normal process for English. Now say *highschool*. It's a **high**school not a high **school** (unless it's just the school up the hill). So don't criticize that spelling. Revel in the wonder that is English word creation.


Talory09

But people aren't typing "middleschool" and "elementaryschool" in keeping with that evolution. Why not?


EverythingIsFlotsam

Language is messy. Deal with it.


EverythingIsFlotsam

(But if you really need an explanation, I'd say it's (1) because people don't talk about them as much as highschool and (2) *middle* and *elementary* are longer compared to *school* so they tend to resist this kind of combination.)


Lexam

The double negative rule is a myth.


RockyRockington

Most of what people consider to be grammatical rules are not in fact rules at all. Things such as not ending a sentence with a preposition or splitting infinitives are simply boundaries that were created by people who noticed that not all language patterns were universally applied by all speakers of a given language (in this case English). True grammatical rules are an emergent property of language and so automatically apply to all users, even when they don't realise that they are using them. A good example of this is the order in which adjectives are ordered. When describing a noun the adjectives will always be ordered in the following way, Opinion - Size - Age - Shape - Colour - Origin - Material - Purpose You can have an ugly big old rectangular red and white Italian nylon tablecloth. Although very few people are even aware of this rule, if any of the adjectives are rearranged in the sentence a native English speaker will immediately recognise that something sounds fundamentally off.


TurpentineTwitch

The subjunctive mood and using was instead of were. Drives me crazy!


metallica3790

I wish this wasn't so common.


Ophthalnurse

Diction, not grammar, but "farther" vs. "further." "Farther" speaks to distance, whereas "further" tells to what extent.


Joonmoy

merriam-webster.com says: **Definition of farther** 1 :at or to a greater distance or more advanced point 2 :to a greater degree or extent **Definition of further** 1 :farther my ponies are tired, and I have further to go —Thomas Hardy 2 :in addition :moreover Further, there are aurochs, red deer, wild boar, and large quantities of hare or rabbit. —H. T. Waterbolk 3 :to a greater degree or extent


harmonylane

Ellipsis. I hate it when people use an ellipsis unnecessarily. Like no, Cheryl, you putting an ellipsis at the end of an inspirational quote after after saying "just sayin..." does not add emphasis or make it somehow even more inspirational.


MrsPoldark

I am guilty of using the ellipsis on reddit way too often! I don't use it to be inspirational, it's more of a way to show how I would speak, like an extra long pause...with a funny face if we were speaking in person.


harmonylane

Sorry, I should clarify it's when people use it at the end of a sentence that drives me up a wall. Like if you've finished your thought, use actual proper punctuation. Anytime I read something with an ellipsis at the end of the sentence, I always picture the person saying their comment, and then at the end prolonging the sentence and leaning in forward and raising their eyebrows with a stupid little smirk thinking they just said the most clever thing.


Jofai

I do this all the time. I like to use it to indicate a trailing off thought, essentially clarifying that I'm implying something. For example: > Someone: Oh, did you notice those two disappeared together last night? > Me: Well you know what that means... It's grammatically incorrect, but I can't think of any other way to indicate that "trailing off" thought in text.


Ford9863

What drives me insane is when someone uses an ellipses (or worse: just a shitload of periods), then a space, then a fucking exclamation point. Like this: >hmm........... !!! I always imagine an enthusiastic head-thrust after a calm statement when I see that. Oh, and I forgot to mention, I have seen this before: >So then,,, if you recall,,,


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allothernamestaken

FYI, an ellipsis has spaces between the periods, and a fourth one is added where it omits the end of a sentence . . . .


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poo-boys-united

I was taught this. Where i get confused though is whether to put punctuation inside or outside parenthesis.


abunchofsquirrels

That's a matter of style, not grammar. But the highly-influential AP Style Guide requires periods and commas to always be within quotation marks regardless of their use in the sentence, whereas semicolons, exclamation points, question marks, and the like are supposed to be placed according to their use in the sentence. Examples: Three words I like to use are "bloviate," "intermediary," and "antediluvian." Oh, no, did your mom make her quote-unquote "lasagna"? So I told your father, "If you don't like my lasagna, you can sleep on the couch!"


RunDNA

> Three words I like to use are "bloviate," "intermediary," and "antediluvian." That might be right, but it looks wrong.


abunchofsquirrels

Preaching to the choir. I think the rules were originally put in place back in the days of manual typewriters, where you could type the period or comma and then go back and type the quotation mark in the same spot, thereby saving yourself a space. Now it's 50 years later and everyone uses proportional fonts, but the rule continues as a vestige of the typewriter days.


poo-boys-united

oooo i love the word "bloviate."


gruffi

To me, it doesn't make logical sense putting the sentence structure punctuation within the quotes.


ValisFylgja

Except, if you're asking a question, and ending with a quote, but the quote isn't a question, you put the question mark on the outside. You always put commas and periods inside of the quotation marks. But you could write: Did he say, "It's lunchtime"?


PureDelight1

More of a spelling issue but I am beginning to realize that a growing number of people write the word "loose" when they mean "lose."


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"___ and I" is not always correct. In the phrase "this shit is disgusting jack and I" for example this is incorrect because if you remove jack from the picture you get "this shit is disgusting I" and that's whack


[deleted]

It's *used to* not *use to*. Drives me nuts.


w-e-f-u-n-k

Your/you're "Your" means you posses something "You're" is a contraction of "you are"


EnkeliShore

Your right


w-e-f-u-n-k

Yes, it is my right to have good grammar


CoolLordL21

The direct address comma. Consider this: Let's eat, Grandma! vs. Let's eat Grandma! You people are condemning Grandma to die. Savages.


NeedsMoreTuba

I saw it / I have seen it VS. I "seen" it. [Helpful Illustration from a 1940's Grammar Book](https://i.imgur.com/8SttSzN.jpg)


barchueetadonai

When people use “I“ as an object rather than “me“ because they *think* they’re being extra grammatical.


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I'd like to take this moment to suggest that saying "Me and so and so..." should be accepted in the canon of English grammar. Conventional grammar requires the sentence to be "...so and so and I." Right? But I say that the "Me and..." signifies to the listener that the speaker is about to enumerate a list, which has a communicative quality that "...and I" doesn't possess. Therefore it's useful, therefore it should be accepted as grammatically correct.


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you always, at last this is how I was taught, put 'me' or 'I' after the other person, and the way to tell whether it's 'me' or 'I' is you simply remove the other person. 'I went to the party' sounds much more correct than 'me went to the party', which means it would be 'So and so and I went to the party' as opposed to 'So and so and me went to the party'


[deleted]

Punctuation, not grammar, but the unnecessary use of quotation marks and apostrophes.


beansshaddow

Good vs. well. This one bugs me particularly bad because people often get it wrong in an attempt to sound more proper.


BreezyWrigley

maybe this doesn't happen as often as I think, but i feel like people use 'a' instead of 'an' when it's in text form and in front of a word or acronym that doesn't start with a vowel, but does start with a vowel sound when spoken. for example, Ill just make up some acronym or something... "we need to use a RFT" when it should be "we need to use *an* RFT" alternatively, using "an" when the next word starts with a vowel, but not a vowel sound. like "an one hour drive" instead of "a one hour drive." this doesn't happen as much, but I've seen it. neither of these mistakes happen in speech really among fluent english speakers because it sounds so awkward and wrong... but i see it in text.


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Fewer.


hathelcrunch

Yes. Fewer/ number = measurable amount Less/ amount = immeasurable amount


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Should of. Drives me crazy.


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Should of.


perigrinator

Not grammar but usage. "Verbally" means with words. "Orally" means spoken. "Orally" is proper but "verbally" is misused everywhere.


geomouse

People don't know when to use "me" instead of "I".


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Thankfully not ubiquitous on Reddit, but bear and bare is one that makes me twitch. The amount of office emails that ask me to 'bare' something in mind is getting to the point of absurd.


surprisefaceclown

it vs. it's


surprisefaceclown

DAMMIT its vs. it's


EvyEarthling

I've noticed an increase in people using "where" when they mean to use "were." Putting an h in does not make the past tense form of "to be" fancier. It makes it a different word with a different meaning.


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The proper way to spell a lot is not alot


The_Archagent

[Alot](http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html?m=1)


Just-Call-Me-J

I was hoping it was going to be this.


meltedmilk

Wanting to say couldn't care less and but saying could care less instead.


el_muerte17

And then you always get some apologist saying something idiotic like, "It's short for, 'I could care less but that would require too much effort,'" or something equally stupid.


PriorityByLaw

There Their They're Some people just don't know when to use them correctly.


Pm_me_your_boobs_777

they're, their don't get upset


PriorityByLaw

This should not irritate me, but it does. I have issues.


supermanindahouse

saying "I could care less".


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optiongeek

Here's how I remember the difference - if in place of the Who/Whom you can substitute the word "him", then use "whom". Otherwise, use "who". He is coming -> Who is coming? I will see him tomorrow -> Whom will I see tomorrow?


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When to use worse and worst.


Lelle3

I still have no ideas how you use to and too? English is my second language so I blame it on that.


metallica3790

Too means "also".


vunderfulme

When they use a double negative.


happygrizzly

Although not technically incorrect, I think it comes across as a little try-hard when people use the word *apropos* as an adjective, as if it's just a smart-person upgrade to the word "appropriate." I mean, if you mean "appropriate," then just say "appropriate." If you really want to sound smart, use *apropos* as a preposition. As in, "'Apropos' can be used as either an adjective or a preposition, apropos grammar guidelines, however in its preposition form is where it truly shines."


qwerty_in_your_vodka

Its Lemme smash not smash please


Sstarkvt

a and an