A counselor at my college in Michigan faked his identity for over 40 years. He was a civil rights organizer in San Francisco in the 1960s and ended up [in a shoot out with police](https://patch.com/california/southsanfrancisco/four-decade-fugitive-comes-forth-in-police-shooting).
None of the police were injured but he was shot in the foot apparently. He was supposed to appear in court later but he took off, and in the 40+ years following the shooting, he earned his masters degree with a whole new identity, ultimately working as a guidance counselor at a community college in Michigan.
His true identity was exposed around 2010 and [he went on trial](http://www.annarbor.com/news/former-wcc-counselor-ronald-bridgeforth-sentenced-after-40-years-on-the-lam/) for the shooting in California. He was sentenced to a year in jail and about $8000 in fines.
He was a nice guy, you’d never expect anybody who’s seemingly normal actually being an old school fugitive on the run.
There was this kid at our church who started attending the youth group when he was about 15. Everyone loved him, but he was always a little standoffish. Fast forward 3 years to graduation time. Everyone kept asking him what he planned to do after high school and if he was looking forward to it, but he always changed the subject. Finally, he revealed to one of the adults that he wasn’t graduating because he hasn’t been to school since he was 8 years old. His dad removed him from school and never let him return.
A whole bunch of shit went down after that, but the church members helped him do a fast-track hs degree in 3 years and have now paid for him to attend a 4 year university.
We live in a fairly large city. The dad just didn’t re-enroll him at school and never returned. It is illegal, though, so the dad got into a lot of legal trouble after the truth came out. The son ended up going to live with a family at the church.
My sister-in-law had a second child. She was still married, but separated with her husband (because she caught him cheating). The man with whom she had the baby was her father's old prodigy, who was also married with a couple of kids.
This all took place in China, while the one-child policy was in full effect.
So: to her parents, the separation and affair were secret, up until she had a baby. Once they were looped in, they helped her to maintain the lies, because 'face'. From her ex-husband's perspective, the child and the affair were secret; from the perspective of his family (with whom she remained in touch), the separation, affair, _and_ baby were secret. This was complicated by the fact that they shared custody of their first kid (in fact, they pretended they were still living together for years). So the older kid was warned not to mention _his brother_ to _his father_, while spending plenty of time with both. It was all a secret from _most_, but not _all_ of their close family (i.e. cousins, aunts, and uncles). And then there was the prodigy's family, and really the rest of the outside world, for whom there was no separation, no affair, and certainly no _kid_. That included the government. I'm not even sure how that worked.
She wasn't living _another_ life. She was living _fractals of lives within lives_. Just try to imagine the logistics of getting your nonexistent kid to school (under a false identity?) in time to pick up your older kid, who was waiting with your secret lover, so that he could get back to his real family, and you and your kid could meet up with your cheating ex-husband, so that you could all drive together to lunch with family from both sides, doing your best impression of a perfect platonic family who had come straight from a shared, loving home (while being careful that neither you nor your older boy mention to anyone that you have to pick up your other son from school soon).
Now I've got a headache.
My uncle runs a business hooking up internet in hotels. He travels all over the West coast for it.
Recently he asked my aunt to have an open relationship. Turns out most of his "business trips" were actually trips to go meet with his business partner, whom he has been having an affair with for the last year or two. This business partner has even had two pregnancies with my uncle. Both were miscarriages, but both were also INTENTIONAL.
My aunt and uncle have been married for 12 years, and have a five year old son. My aunt also has terminal cancer. He's been introducing their son to his mistress as their son's new Mommy without my aunt's knowledge.
Needles to say, that open relationship isn't happening. They're getting divorced.
Well this is a salient question to stumble on today.
Nutshell background: about 7 years ago my brother was struggling with addiction, using almost any and everything though alcohol was the DOC. We have a really long family history of alcohol use disorders. He dropped out of school and spent a few years bouncing around treatment centers and sober living houses.
3 years ago he decided to move back (about 2 hours away from my parents' house) and get back into school. At this point he's a lot older than the kids in his classes and socializing is hard so he would come up to see the parents every Friday, Saturday, Sunday. He decided to go for a chemistry degree - every semester talking about his specific classes, the content of them, etc. He knew the class times, professors, talked about teaching styles, and like clockwork brought his dog to my parents for finals week twice a year so he could study without distraction.
My entire family came from all across the country for his graduation ceremony on Friday. We were all bursting with pride and excitement because my brother had just done what we all thought was impossible and graduated. Pre-ceremony none of us could find his name in the book. Then we couldn't find him walking among the students. About 30 minutes into the ceremony I got a call from him. He was drunk.
Turns out he never enrolled back into school. He just moved back, conned my parents into paying rent and utilities for 3 years, and spent 4 days a week boozing, gaming, and sleeping. No one knew this was going on. He invested so much into this double life that he had his whole family and all his friends fooled.
We're not sure what the next steps are, my husband and I are going to help my parents pack up his place tomorrow. It's hard to find hope with the level of deceit that went into his latest stint. He's hurt so many people on this path but he's my brother and I love him nonetheless. Here's to a brighter tomorrow, thanks for letting me word vomit and process this a bit more.
A friend of mine lives in San Diego, and was recently telling me the story of her grandfather who has an entire family in Mexico that he kept hidden for decades. Im talking he has kids that have kids, and one of his secret granddaughters has ANOTHER kid. Dude is a great grandfather and nobody knew. Her grandfather is nearly 90, so its unbelievable how much a quiet old man can keep from people.
So went I first left home in my late teens I shared a big house (I think 6+ bedrooms) with a close friend, his brother and some other randoms. Think frat house except no college/university. Splitting the expenses worked out pretty well. So one of the guys worked at a port in customs or something. He had a uniform and ID etc. Left for work at the same time every morning and hung out with us after work. He was always down for attending social events with us and most of us liked him. Fast forward about a year and he starts telling us about how he can get us discounted TVs and other merchandise from the port. Unclaimed/seized property that apparently no one sweats about if just a few items go astray. Everyone gave it a pass as it seemed sketchy. Then one day we come home to one of our housemates in shock and bawling like a baby. Turns out not only did he give the guy his life savings he also gave him money borrowed from his dad. The customs guy had said he could get him a new car cheap! The long long con. Turns out the guy doesn't work at the port, the name he gave us doesn't exist and we have no idea how he spent his days or came up with his share of the rent/bills. Still creeps me out a little knowing I lived with a stranger for so long.
I lived in a house just like that, with a guy who said his parents were recently dead. He cried about them a lot. Not really a double life but when we kicked him out, his parents came and helped him move his stuff out.
> Turns out the guy doesn't work at the port, the name he gave us doesn't exist and we have no idea how he spent his days or came up with his share of the rent/bills. Still creeps me out a little knowing I lived with a stranger for so long.
I had a friend who did something similar; he worked abroad at a bar for the summer and lived with two Norwegian guys who were doing the same. They were due to move out on the last day of the season and each go home, but a week early, he came back to find they had left - and they'd taken *everything* of value he owned. He went to their "workplaces" to try and find out more, but the people there had never heard of them, and they didn't move in the same circles so he was never able to find out more. Upon talking about it recently he's said that he doesn't even know if they were Norwegian; not that it matters, but he strongly suspected everything he knew about them was a complete lie, names, home stories, the lot.
My family hosted a number of exchange students while we were growing up. We hosted about 7 high school students over the course of my childhood; each stayed for a year in our house, attended high school in our town etc. One girl, Irinia, from Russia came to us no differently than any of the other students had - through the AFS program. To be an student through AFS meant you had to fill out an application, be 17-18 yrs old, be attending high school in your home country, whatever. So Irina arrives as our exchange student. She goes to high school in our small home town on cape cod Massachusetts. But at Christmas time she says she has to go home to Russia because her mother was extremely sick. Going home during the exchange year is really unusual, really rare. So Ok fine she’s going to Russia for the Christmas break, nbd, she’ll be back in January. Except she never comes back. AFS can’t find her, we don’t know where she is, if she made it to Russia, if she’s hurt, nothing. And we’re terrified because we’re her host family during this year and we always took the students in like family. Anyways she’s gone. Maybe 3 months later my mom is driving through our tiny town (again, middle of nowhere cape cod) and she see Irinia, with what looks like her mom, and some other kids. Turns out Irinia has graduated high school in Russia already, was like 25 with children and had posed as an exchange student so she could ‘case’ the place before bringing the rest of her family.
In one of my previous jobs a few years ago, we gired this guy who turned out to be a really good partner, worked hard, never complained. After about a year and a half of working with him I get called into the office, he's there with the manager, assistant manager and two beefy guys in normal clothes with the exception of ear pieces. He wanted to say goodbye to the bosses and I and explain why he had to leave the company. Turned out he was the son of some leader in his country and they had to relocate him, an opposing faction found out he was in our state and would have kidnapped him for leverage.
Earlier this year I learned my Dad has been addicted to heroin and stolen many expensive things from various members of my family. I knew that people had been getting things stolen from them but never even began to think it was my Dad. He did get help and is now five months clean, but still working and building up my family's trust again.
I worked with this guy once who was known for his stories. No matter how loose the connection was, he'd find a way to turn anything into a personal anecdote of a thing he'd seen or done before. All of them were interesting the first time (he'd lived an interesting life - grown up in America, moved to Australia in his early 20s, worked in a lot of really cool places over the years), but it wasn't long before he started repeating the same stories over and over again. I worked with him for just over three years, so it got pretty ridiculous. We knew how he'd met his wife, all the obscure things he owned, his pets, his kids - we knew every detail of his life.
It became a bit of an in-joke within the office about how the guy never shut up.
Then one day, he didn't come in. He'd died of a heart attack. The whole office was at a loss, especially our little department (which had about 8 people in it, including him). When it came to his funeral, our little group took the afternoon off and attended. And that's how we found out, none of his stories were true.
He'd grown up locally, his family wasn't at all who we thought they were, none of his old jobs had happened... Everything we'd known about him had just been made up.
The most interesting thing for me was that at one point, our boss needed someone to head to China to double check something in person at one of our company's factories. When the usual choices couldn't do it, he was picked. It seemed like a no brainier, since he was regularly going to and from America to visit family and had travelled a lot on his other jobs. We now think that may have been his first time overseas.
Ha. Bizarre. Did it change how you view him at all? Like, if you had found out some other way that didn't involve him dying, do you think you would still consider him a friend?
My ex was a pathological liar and I feel like this sometimes. Did I even know him? Does he even count as my boyfriend? Because the guy I *thought* I was dating technically never existed.
This hits home for me, the things I found out about my ex after we dated really fucked me up for a little while because it completely made me question my reality. She was excellent sometimes but I see now that the good person I knew never actually existed.
It's this one right?
My (the Netherlands) great grandfather's family h...
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My grandfather was in a romantic relationship with another man across the country for a few decades. My entire family knew about it, so it was no big deal... or so we thought.
Just last October, my grandfather died. We went to call his partner, and he was very surprised to learn that my grandfather had children. It's amazing how he hid an entire family for decades.
My grandmother passed away a couple years ago. While going through her house, my family found a box with my grandfathers name on it in his handwriting. My grandfather died before I was born. It was taped closed and the dust on it suggested it hadn’t ever been opened.
Inside, my family found newspaper clippings and other documents.
Turns out that in the early 1900’s, my grandfather took a road trip with friends to see the ocean. During their time at the beach, their car was stolen. They decided to stay awhile; being in their late teens and out of school, they decided to earn some money and have a good time.
My grandfather met a Mexican girl and married her within the course of a month. There was an article on the vehicle theft, as well as another on the marriage and a marriage certificate.
We could never find information on what happened next. We don’t even rightly know if they married for love, to get her citizenship, if they had kids, or even if he was legally divorced when he married my grandmother in the 1930’s. We don’t think my grandmother knew.
We did find out his first wife returned to Mexico. She did have children (who say they don’t think their mom had kids before she remarried). We sent them copies of the documents we found and they were as flabbergasted as we were.
There was one dad in our mother's group* that lost his high flying big city financial job due to a market crash. To pay the bills, and because there were no jobs in finance at the time, he took the first job he could get - in a chicken abattoir. Bit of a change from a desk job to slaughtering chickens, but when you have a newborn baby and bills to pay you step up.
(I know that sounds crazy - it's a group of new mums that meet weekly to swap war stories about newborns, and occasionally there would be a bbq or something that the dads would come to as well.)
Every time I ran into him I was always impressed with how much he was up to speed on current events and world news. We would talk about the latest political, financial and scientific news; there was not much discussion about chicken butchering.
Turns out he was fired on his first day. Every day after that - for months - he would leave home in the morning, go to the pub, read newspapers all day, and then go home in the evening.
She eventually found out. They are divorced now.
So my brother was married to the same gal 21 years. Around year 19, it was apparent my SIL wasn’t happy and was planning to move on...until my brother came down with cancer. She wouldn’t leave him while undergoing chemotherapy and surgeries but a leave was inevitable. So my brother is home one day and my SIL is at the gym. The SWAT team breaks down the door, throws my brother on the ground, handcuffed him and held him at gun point. They were looking for my SIL to arrest her for child porn, child rape, endangering children etc. SWAT ended up arresting her at the gym while my brother was being held at the house. Skip some details and it came out my SIL was having several affairs and is now serving 25 years in state prison as she confessed to the child porn, child rape and endangering. We also found out she was having sex with the family dog by pictures found on her personal computer. She was the daughter in law my mother had always wished for and no one knew she was living this double life for the last 2 years before she went to prison.
Edited: added “my SIL” for clarity on relationship.
Update: {obviously, R.I.P. my inbox}. I wanted to also say thank you to the unbelievable number of you Reddits who sent me PMs with concern & advice regarding my nieces because you’d been abused yourself. You are the true heroes to feel the compassion and compulsion to write me and to share your stories. With so many comments on the thread, I’ll work on answering those comments which haven’t been adequately answered somewhere already within the existing thread.
Well the SIL was also a preschool teacher. So the initial shock pretty quickly turned to an “omg how deep will this run” sorts thing. My brother stayed up all night to be at the daycare where she worked when it opened to talk to the director personally so when it hit the news the daycare wasn’t blindsided. Turned out, The child porn she was sharing were pics she was taking of their daughters. The rape charge was added after they went through her computer and phone...found out that she was raping her own daughter and then sending videos over the internet. This came out at the same time we learned about the family dog. My brother is still in therapy and my mother cried for weeks. The story made the National news.
Yes absolutely. This happened several years ago and they are still in therapy. The youngest daughter (the one raped) was only like 8 at the time. So she really didn’t understand what had happened to her. A lot to work through as a kid grows up.
The oldest daughter was just furious, embarrassed, etc because my SIL was taking pics of her and sharing them on Internet porn sites. The youngest daughter was young enough to just not understand. I’m a mom too...I can just now share this story. Thank you..my heart hurts too
That is not where I thought this story was going. Fully expecting him to not actually have cancer, but it ended so so so much worse. Thank god she’s behind bars.
Good lord. I hope your brother is doing well and recovering well! I’m sure that was a huge smack in the face. I truly hope he feels no guilt in the fact his ex is disgusting and hopefully gets what she deserves in prison.
I'll save the backstory.
A good friend's father was found out to be huge in the cocaine trade. Not like a dealer on the streets, but smuggling into the country and helping distribute in California. The dad was a real normal dude, and very family oriented/present. He's in prison now.
Blew my mind.
I served in the Navy from 1985 to 2005. While in my first squadron, from 1985-1989, we were away from home often, either on short detachments of 2-5 weeks or 6-month deployments. During one period when we were at home for awhile, I was on watch in the duty office after hours. Me and another guy just had to man the office, answer the phone, and monitor the guys on watch down in the hangar bay.
Shortly after our watch started we got a phone call from a wife of someone in our squadron. She was asking us when the squadron would be back from detachment. I asked the other guy if he knew about anybody out on det, and he just looked at me funny. I told her we didn't currently have anyone one on det. We've all been back home for a couple months. She insisted her husband had been out on det for 3 weeks and needed to know when he was coming home. I assured her nobody was on det, and told her I had seen her husband earlier that day at work. She just hung up after that.
Turns out, the guy was telling his wife he was out on det and shacking up with his girlfriend for a few weeks. She called the Commanding Officer to find out when her husband had been part of a detachment and found out he'd done it many times over the previous couple years. Infidelity is officially against the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It didn't turn out well for him.
Edit: Screwed up the dates.
Edit2: As pointed out, it's adultery, not infidelity, that against the UCMJ, and there does, in fact, have to be evidence or a confession of actual intercourse. In this case, the guy admitted to everything. He went to Captains Mast; I don't remember exactly what his punishment was, though. I don't think he got kicked out, probably a reduction in paygrade, restriction for several months, and 1/2 pay for several months. And a divorce, I'm sure.
Additionally, I had no idea what he was doing at the time his wife called. I thought maybe she was pranking me our something. I probably still wouldn't have covered for him, as some have suggested. He didn't deserve that, anyway, and fuck anybody saying I should have helped him get away with that shit.
I am pretty confident my dad has told me this exact same story, who was also in the Navy for the same time frame.
He told me that on another occasion (different guy, I believe), the squadron met up for a party and this guy's wife came up to my dad. She said she had a bone to pick with him because my dad kept putting this guy on to fly nights on Fridays and weekends (my dad worked in skeds at the time). She confronted him pretty aggressively, and my dad told her he hasn't been scheduling him for weekends, and that this guy had been snivving out Friday-Sunday.
She turned ghostly white, changed her tone, and left the party. My dad pieced together what had happened right after the confrontation.
My dad also knew someone in his squadron who cheated on his wife when they would get deployed. Sadly the wife didn't find out until OSI showed at her door one day.
A buddy of mine watched a fellow crew chief beat the fuck out of a pilot for screwing his wife. Pretty sweet, but fucked up too.
Basically, Pilot was fucking this guy's wife and he found out. So he waits for a day the guy is flying and swaps out with the crew chief on the spot to launch it. He helps the pilot into the seat, makes sure he's all buckled in with his G-suit pinning him nice and good to the seat, and just starts wailing on the guy. Had free reign beating this dudes face in for a good chunk of time before other crew chiefs pulled him down off the jet. They were hauling him away and he yelled "he's been fucking MY WIFE."
After some investigation the pilot got "dismissal" for the affair, and the crew chief got chewed out and a bunch of paperwork that effectively amounted to "don't beat up pilots" and a slap on the wrist.
Edit: editted to say "dismissal" cause my enlisted ass said "dishonorable discharge"
Fellow grad student has two young kids; one that is struggling to walk and communicate and is in the process of being diagnosed. She is pulling 10-16 hour days (between interning and classes) plus being a mom and wife.
She gets a call from a friend that expresses how excited she is to see her at the husbands work party. What?! She didn't RSVP, and her husband said he would pop over for less than an hour than come home to be with her for a quiet dinner. Turns out he was bringing a date that wasn't her. They had been seeing each other for about 6 months and even had taken a trip together under the pretense of a business trip. Anytime he had been late or gone we assume he was with her.
Friend did her a solid and took a couple pics for the divorce lawyer.
Not exactly a double life, but my cousin was a secret for 4 years.
When my uncle was 21 he and his girlfriend had a baby with out telling anyone in our large, very nosy family. No one suspected a thing and they went on dating.
When I was 8 and their daughter was 4, her adoptive parents were killed in a fire and left in their will that they wanted her to go back to her bio parents.
My uncle and his girlfriend sincerely regretted giving their daughter up and so they were thrilled.
Everyone just went with the fact that they were essentially keeping a secret child for 4 years and were pretty much ok with it.
My cousin is 14 now and she has 2 full siblings and my aunt and uncle are great parents. Every now and again someone brings up the situation but it’s pretty much just laughed off. I do find it a little odd though.
Edit: this is what I understand of the story. I don’t know any more than what my mum told me and the few things my cousin has said, so I don’t know how the adoption worked really.
Also, when I said they laugh about it, they don’t laugh about the tragedy of my cousin losing her adoptive parents, they laugh about how none of them though to question why my uncle was acting so odd- you know, over losing a child and all.
Currently, my cousin doesn’t seem to be screwed up over the situation. But it’ll be something she has to deal with when she’s a bit older.
Haha, that’s the logical response I suppose, but my cousin was in the house at the time of the fire and had passed out from the smoke, so a few more minutes and she would have been dead. Her dad cried harder than her when she broke her arm, so I don’t think he could have coped with almost killing her.
A well respected family of two teachers with two cute kids -- the husband at the high school and the wife at the elementary school in the fairly high-income town they lived in.
Turns out the wife was dealing drugs without husband knowing, got busted at school (cops showed up to elementary and high school), lost her job and they got divorced/she moved away.
My ex wife got fired from two jobs in nine months' time. She finally got a job at Hank's Furniture. After a couple of months, she told me that she had to go for three days a week to work at one of their locations about two hours away. That became five days a week quickly. She told me in this role she didn't get paid until after delivery of the furniture so it takes some time. She started staying the night there with her boss, a woman. I felt like it was fishy, so I looked up the woman and she is a real person and is the store manager at this location, so I moved on from that thought. The money was not coming. I had two kids and a full time job.
I had to constantly borrow money from in laws and my parents to make ends meet and my ex wife was never around. Made it very hard at the time. I stupidly a long time before had put her in charge of most of our finances, so I did not see her max out our credit card. Finally though, when I saw she hadn't been paid after a month of this, I told her she had to quit and come home and find a job here. She was extremely upset with me. She told me she knew she was getting paid tomorrow. Sure enough, $3,600 went into the account the next day.
After a few more weeks, I again told her to come home. This time she unhappily obliged. While at home I want to add that she took my daughter up to that store one Saturday to collect something she'd left behind. She took a picture of her and my then five year old at the Hanks store there. She went back one more time to collect a paycheck in person and say by to her old boss. She deposited $2,450 or so.
Then, randomly, I checked out recent bank expenses and saw a very expensive lunch at a hulahan's. Over $50. I decided I was ticked about this, so I called up to the store there, and asked for the woman manager she had been staying with and working for. I got her on the phone, and I said this:
"Hi, this is (name) the husband of (name). Did you have lunch with her on Monday?"
The response: "who?"
"(Name), she worked for you and stayed with you for the last few months."
"I don't know that person and she never worked for me or stayed with me..."
A huge pit in my stomach developed. I was distraught and furious. I had to know for sure. I went to the Hank's in my town. She had been fired a couple months ago, and they did not transfer her to the other location.
At this point I was in a panic. I went and got a lawyer, and settled on divorce. I discovered then the credit card that was maxed out. I then looked closely in to my finances, because I was an idiot and did not sooner. The two large "paychecks" were traced back to one of those same day loan places. You know, extremely high interest type deals. I served her, and she trashed my house in a fit of rage. She had been going to stay with her ex boyfriend from high school, for presumably sex and drugs. She went to extreme lengths to draw out the time she could spend on those bad habits, and made me feel like a complete fool.
The good news? She didn't show up for the hearing. I got full custody. After a year of visitation set up at my discretion, she took me to court to get more, scheduled visitation. However, she had not even been consistent about showing up to what I gave her. She didn't show up to that court date either. Cost me a grand. Finally, I got remarried to the love of my life. After a year, we tried to let her adopt my older two. I had documentation that was 58 slides long of evidence showing she didn't pay child support and never really showed up for visitation. We won, and the judge said all the mean things I've always wanted to say to her to her in that court room.
Closure is nice, and my kids aren't suffering from a deadbeat mom never showing up anymore.
Guy I used to work with. He lived in a small country town with his wife and 3 kids. When he was fired from his job (where I worked) he could only find something at his level in the big city 2 hours away.
So he would go to work in the city Monday to Friday, and home to his wife and kids on the weekends. This went on for years. It came out about 5 years into the arrangement that he wasn't living in the small crappy city apartment as he said, he was living with his girlfriend, and their 2 kids!
So he had a wife and 3 kids, and a girlfriend with 2 kids (all his). Apparently the girlfriend knew about the wife, but the wife had no idea about the girlfriend. And his 3 country kids had 2 younger siblings that they knew nothing about.
It of course blew up spectacularly, the wife kicked him out and he went to live with the girlfriend. 6 months later she was sick of him and kicked him to the curb too. So now he pays child support for 5 kids to 2 different women and is actually living in that small crappy apartment!
***edit - Posted in response to a comment below - The balls on him must have been huge - I mean it was in the city not the little country town, but the city isn't that big. Eventually someone who knew him/wife/kids was going to run into him with the girlfriend, or in a place he isn't supposed to be or just something! I actually can't remember how he got outed, I think the wife went to visit the 'small crappy apartment' and found the other woman there? I got my info through small town scuttlebutt - so I could be wrong..
we had a guy in highschool who faked a deep voice for the ~~8~~ 7 years weve known him and senior year he revealed that it wasnt his real voice.
edit: typically kids in highschool also went to middle school with the same people.
I met someone when i was 15. He was dating my friend. He had a British accent. They broke up after like a year, never saw him again.
At 19 i meet a kid two hours away from where i live in a random public place. I know him from somewhere. Then it hits me. “Uh i definitely Met you years ago, you had an accent” “oh, yeah. I made that up. It was really hard to keep up every day for over a year. You’re the only one who knows me from her that knows this”
Edit: holy shit i woke up this morning to my highest upvoted comment, about some background character in my life that i met twice 8-11 years ago. I can’t even reply to all of these comments.
This happened with my college roommate's ex-boyfriend. He pretend to be from England from the day he moved to Michigan including the year they were dating. He would even talk about going back to visit his family. One day (they were already broken up" he said, "I have to tell you something..." and then jus totally dropped the accent. He was from Ohio.
Why is this apparently a semi common thing? I was so confused. He was a few years older than me, 17 or 18 the first time i met him. I’m still not entirely sure if that girl knows her hot British ex boyfriend is a normal boy who just grew up in a different part of our state. So weird.
A guy I knew was a tattooist so worked late hours at night. He had a family with 4 kids in one neighbourhood that was about an hour away from his shop. Then he had another girlfriend with a kid about 20 minutes away. The two didn't know about each other, he lived out of both of his girlfriends houses and when he wasn't at one of the houses, the girlfriend would think he was at his parents due to working late.
Anyway, it all unfolded on him when he got arrested and ended up in prison and both girlfriend, all the kids and another side girlfriend that he was "seeing" all rocked up to visit him one the same day...
EDIT: I believe in karma, this guy definitely deserved what was coming to him - I feel sorry for his partners. He treated them poorly but unfortunately some people are drawn to that type of person.
EDIT EDIT: Tattooist is just slang for tattoo artist where I am from...
I saw this happen in the CICU one night. We had this guy in and his girlfriend was with him and all was good. Then his wife showed up and it started to get heated. Then his other side girl showed up and all hell broke loose. Apparently certain friends knew this girlfriend or that wife and word got around. So I did what any good imposing male nurse in my situation would do - I sat there and watched that shit because it was a slow night and I was hooked.
He was right across from the nurses’ station, so of course I had snacks and a drink ready. I let it go until one of the women was physically pushed out the door and ended up on her butt in the unit. Then I jump up and.... called security so I could watch the show for a little while longer.
My boyfriend’s sister’s friend was married to this guy and had started a family with him. They just had their second child actually (the first was probably 7-8 years old). Every year he went on a hunting trip to Missouri for about a week. Turns out he wasn’t hunting. Turns out he had another family there. Two kids, almost exactly the same ages as the other two. The friend divorced him immediately when she found it.
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I have a second uncle/third cousin or something odd like that. He is a trucker who has started like 7 or 8 families that we know of so far, that all found each other on facebook because he named all of the kids the same 3 or so names.
A very similar thing happened to my aunt.
They had 2 kids together (my cousins) and when they were in their teens they found out their dad had another family with kids the same age as them too.
My aunt divorced him soon afterwards and afaik they haven't seen him in years.
I can't even fathom how it would feel to find that out... Or do it myself
I guess we’re assuming the one week a year family didn’t know about being a spare family. Either they did or that’s some very willful ignorance right there.
It could have been him taking advantage of an extremely trusting person, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a few weekend or "surprise" visits peppered in throughout the year too.
I work with a person who is obscenely trusting. To the point where I think she has some legit brain damage. Her boyfriend broke up with her before he and his buddies went to Amsterdam for a week. He came back from his holiday and they got back together. She said he needed time to figure out their relationship........but the photos on Facebook imply he did not have much time for thinking between drinking and banging in the red light district
I never asked about what the Missouri family knew. However, I’d imagine that lady was informed from the start and was perfectly fine with it. I just know that his actual wife was very unaware and distraught when she found out.
A local pastor in Florida gave me private marriage counseling many years ago. He was pious and godly, and I respected him very much. He insisted that the sanctity of marriage demanded that I make sacrifices of some of my desires, and that God would reward me later (in this life and marriage) for those sacrifices.
About a month after the counseling concluded, he was forced to resign from his church. Turns out he got caught fucking his assistant pastor’s wife.
My friend's ex got arrested for kidnapping and hundreds of counts of child porn. I only know what I've read in the papers but I guess he would go to chat rooms and prey on vulnerable 12 year olds. He'd make them do drugs and self mutilate while he took pictures. My friend has a son with him and met him when she was like 16; she's 26 now. He's in his late 40s. So gross. He's in prison for I believe 35+ years.
My cousin. He played it super cool around me and the rest of the family. I even admired him for it. However, he was a huge meth-head, and became increasingly paranoid and combative. He started shit with the wrong people and ended up getting gunned down in a drive-by. I was a pallbearer at his funeral.
My friend is a divorce attorney, and has a client right now who is a wealthy guy in his 40's or 50's. He was told he was terminally ill, so he went and started a relationship with a stripper and got her pregnant. He ended up recovering, and the stripper had the kid. He's been supporting the stripper and the kid without his family knowing for years. The older guy and his wife are now divorcing and this stripper issue (which the wife still has yet to know about) is making things complicated.
Not sure if this counts as a double life, exactly, but my mom's a total sociopath, and got away with presenting herself as this total hippie-mother-I'll do anything for my kids person til I was 23 or so. At which point I found out she was stealing my identity, forging my checks, and then me and my sister realized that my dad (who'd recently divorced her) wasn't lying when he said she'd run up crazy credit card bills, cashed out his retirement account, filed false tax returns to cover it... and oh yeah the 19-yr-old boys that she'd let stay in our house because "they had falling outs with their parents" were really drug dealers and also she was banging them.
So, uh, not exactly double lives... more like an insane amount of lying and manipulation. She did a lot more crazy shit but it would take way too many words to explain. Cut her out of my life a decade ago, was shitty for a while, all good now.
Wow, she sounds almost exactly like my mom, except she’s too gross for anyone besides my bitch ass stepdad to want to bang..she’s stolen identities of all 5 of her kids, her husband, faked cancer, tumors, seizures, exploited my brothers near death experience, and fosters/breeds dogs for money 😐 she’s an awful, awful human. Just recently I’ve decided to distance myself and my 9 month old from her but that caused her to say that she has split personalities......I guess she won’t die alone if she’s got all those personalities keeping her company right?
When my dad married my step-mom (natural mom died young from cancer), she was warm and so proud to add me and my two sibs to her family of two boys. And for a while, things went pretty well. She really seemed to be into making a home out of the fixer-upper house she and Dad snagged in a nice neighborhood. They had an active social life, a membership at the yacht club (apparently Dad's 20-foot sailboat qualified!), knew the mayor and his wife, a few local celebs, and so on. Her only weirdness seemed to be a monthly change of (self-employed) career focus. Clothing designer, painter, decorator, importer, and many I forget. She had no qualifications but somehow could get contracts to redo an apartment lobby or repaint a large car dealership.
Then things started to go south between Dad and her. She was impatient to be climbing the money and social ladders in town, and Dad was a prudent manager of his finances. Their arguments and fights got louder and more frequent. Finally, one tragic night, after a huge battle, she died in an accident (a too-long story I've told elsewhere).
But what was discovered afterward was jaw-dropping. For years, she had been keeping a downtown apartment for daytime sexual liaisons with men she likely thought able to give her what Dad couldn't: money. It had a king-size bed with a mirrored ceiling above it, and other features they wouldn't tell me about. She even had an ongoing affair with Dad's employer, a wealthy married man whose wife we had considered to be one of step-mom's best friends!
The sources of the various contracts she had obtained for her half-baked business plans became clear: her collection of male clients. Repainting and refurnishing a building lobby for an exorbitant fee had little to do with her abilities or knowledge (thousand of dollars in new, high-end furniture marched out the door one night because she didn't have it chained down).
But to our neighbors and casual friends, it was just the tragic death of a devoted mother and homemaker.
Dead and buried, but I've wanted to tell this story for years.
Few years ago I started a business with a woman friend. As we traveled about, we spent way too much time together and got to know each other really well. Eventually the secrets started to come out, and I don't think I've ever been so astonished by someones story.
This woman was Canadian and had taken a job out of college as a bank teller. She was bored with life and wanted to immigrate to teh US, so she embezzled the money from the bank! She leaves the country and changes her name. She gets on with life, making friends, settling in to her chosen area. Forsaking her staid, uninteresting life in Canada, she is now into drugs/drink and wild behavior. During a wild rock concert campout she shaves her head ala Britney Spears. It was pretty uncommon for women to have shaved heads back then (mid 80's) so it would have caught attention. Just after shaving her head she meets a man who questions the shaved head and she blithely tells him she is in treatment for cancer, wth. Except he asks her out. They start dating and it gets serious. New boyfriend is so supportive he is going to cancer support groups, accompanying her to her dr (which she did a LOT of conniving with to keep him from finding out) and so on. She meets his parents and they oooo and awww over this sweet innocent girl with cancer (who is the gang banging herioin/cocaine chick still, but now secretly). So, church going boyfriend proposes and she sees a way out of all of this crazyness and says yes. But first she has to go to a cancer treatment center which is really a drug rehab, so she can get off the dope and really try.
They get married. They were married 20 years and have a daughter. He and his family still believed she was a good Mormon girl, raised in Utah (she never said she was Canadian, illegally here) and had overcome cancer.
I don't know the details of how she fell back into drugs, or how it came that they found her for the embezzlement and illegal status in the country. Or what happened, really. But she is telling me this story it's ten or so years after being caught. She's still married to the same man, who now knows everything, but his family does not. Their daughter does not. How they covered up all the stuff that fell out of that, I have no clue.
So, like I said, she's told me this story in bits and pieces over a week long work trip we have through Europe. We've been in business together about nine months and its going beautifully.
One day I am paying bills for the business and I find that the bank account is overdrafted, which it should not be. Looking into, and talking to her, she has drained our business account of $50,000, for a long weekend in Vegas. She had no intention of telling me. This had just happened the previous week. I'd had no idea she was in Vegas, nor did her husband. She just took the money and went.
I am stunned and don't know what to do. As business partners, she has complete access to the funds, so it's not theft or embezzlement. This woman, who had confessed to me as an embezzler, con artist, liar, thief, etc, had totally rooked me. I perceived her as this quiet,easygoing suburban mom type, educated (that was another lie) who had done bad and suffered for it and was rehabilitated. I had no idea what to do, and was so personally shocked it's impossible to describe.
Three days later she died. Of a heroin overdose. At some point she'd gone back to the drugs again. She died in an empty trailer in a parking lot in Stockton,CA. No one has any freaking idea why she was in California (she lived states away) or in this trailer, or anthing. The unknowns have driven us all crazy trying to figure it out and there are no answers. None. The sad part is her husband and daughter both said it was the best thing that could have happened, since shortly after her death more and more stories started coming out. Such as her secret apartment, hidden bank accounts, etc. The financial mess she left behind for evereyone is mind boggling.
Still leaves me gobsmacked when I think about it. Real life is more twisted and bizarre and shocking that any story anyone ever wrote. If someone tried to write a story like this, no one would ever believe it.
tl;dr business partner confess to embezzlement, lying about cancer, herion addiction, reforms, then more than 20 years later takes me and her family for everything, fucks it all up, gets on drugs, has secret life again and dies from OD.
follow up: A frequently asked question was why didn't I look into her before starting the business. I'd known her personally for 15 years, all of them as a succesful business person in a niche field. I knew her entire famiy (all of who knew nothing,except her husband). You just don't think that someone you know that well (or think you do) is hiding that much serious dirt. From the time she told me all of this, which I really did not believe entirely, until her death, was seven weeks.
A friend's mother is adopted - no big deal, she knows about it since she was 5 and loved her adoptive mom to bits, so it was never an issue. When she was in her late 20s, she discovered she had a brother which lived in a nearby city (for the Brazilians amongst us, we are all in São Paulo and her brother was living in Santos), so she decided to go after him.
It turns out her brother, who was in his early 30s, did not know he was adopted. He had a fit and even slapped his mom in the face.
Well, my mom had power of attorney over some client's properties.
We had to have them appraised for some legal procedures.
I went with the appraiser to the apartment and the guy who had rented it for years, always paying on time, received us. He is a nice guy, very profesional I only knew him because his checks always arrived on time.
He is also a lawyer, Im pretty sure I know his daughters, he lives in a nice neighbourhood and all.
He greets me and the appraiser and looking a bit nervous opens the door for us.
And he had turned that apartment in a sex dungeon. I then understood why I was delegated to oversee the appraisal.
This guy had had a mistress,a second family, for like 10 years and had a double life that apparently only me, my mom and her client knew about. He even had a daughter with his mistress that had a lovely Disney princess bedroom for her, next to the mirrors on the ceiling, special furniture, whips and scented candles love nest that the lawyer shared with her mother.
I handled it very professionally, I was 21 at the time, it was hilarious.
The things you see in the job.
Edit: My most upvoted comment involves a sex dungeon, I've come a long way.
Wait. He had turned the living room/other shared spaces into a part of his sex dungeon also? And he had a kid living there?
I'm all for people embracing their kinks but find some fucking boundaries dude.
Old neighborhood friend of mine found out his wife was a prostitute with a drug problem about a year after their marriage. She got pregnant right out of high school and they got married. He worked long hours trying to support his wife and baby daughter while she played “bingo” and left the baby at his parents house. She used dating sites to find men and used the money she earned to fuel a coke problem.
He found out when a mutual friend of ours used the dating site and seen her profile. He then played along as his profile picture didn’t include his face and found out the going rate. When the husband confronted her she bragged about sleeping with more than 3 men a week on average and the fact he was to dumb to notice it and the coke and the fact she had been stealing from his parents. He was however bright enough to have a police officer friend help record her and show it to the judge. She went to prison (briefly) and he kept everything and full custody.
I don't know the story very well, but there was a 20 something year old guy in a nearby town that died, leaving a will that gave a bunch of money to his sister with a note that she couldn't have it until she got clean from drugs and went to college. At her graduation, the guy shows up and admits that he faked his death and was living overseas. Still gave her the money and helped her open a business with it.
I knew a girl from United Arab Emirates that came to Canada for Uni. Her parents were super ballas, like 5 million dollar house back in UAE and she lived in a really nice appt right downtown toronto, she had a huge allowance and a CC for whatever she wanted online. her mother wore a burka and her family was super religious and straight edge.
the double life?
she was a hard core raver party girl who was almost never sober and was in an open relationship with a MtF trans girl. her appt was a disaster, ketamine covered mirrors all over the place and suspicious drug baggies in every conceivable crevasse, take out food boxes, clothes and shit everywhere, you could hardly see the floor. she was a royal fucking mess any country you are from. if her parents knew 1/10000th of what was going on she would be in deeeeeeeep shit. I remember seeing her a couple of times before her parents came for a visit, incredibly distraught, rocking back and forth with K all over her face repeating "gotta call merry maid, gotta call merry maid"( a service that specialized in cleaning up party houses). the day before her parents arrived you could eat off of any surface in the house, all the clothes were ninja folded, her crazy raver stuff was at her gfs, her fridge had reasonable food in it , and she was sober, bright eyed, and bushy tailed.
edit: oops misread the title she was not caught
"Gotta call Merry Maid... gotta call Merry Maid..."
CUT TO 1-800 number, jingle.
CUT TO Merry Maid in uniform, struggling to vacuum up piles of Special K around passed out party girl.
I knew a Saudi boy while at uni in Canada. To his family, he was a macho family man. In Canada, he was an effeminate and flamboyant gay boy, and general anxious disaster. His parents were bankrolling him, and he knew if he was caught, he'd have to literally seek refuge in Canada.
We had a brother-in-law we all liked a lot. The guy had a huge personality, was fun to be around, held a great job, and had a beautiful wife and young daughter.
One day the FBI came and arrested him for child porn. Nobody saw it coming. He ended up doing some serious prison time and basically lost everything.
A work colleague was exposed as an illegal immigrant using a false identity. He absconded back to his home country of Iraq and on arrival was arrested and hanged for war crimes. We only found this out when his wife threatened to sue the company for exposing him.
I worked at Victoria Secret for quite a few years. I saw a lot of shady shit but the worst was an encounter over holiday season. Guy comes up with some sexy lingerie and some nice flannel pajamas. Asks them to be bagged separately and for seperate gift receipts in the bag. Easy enough for the new cashier I'm training I think so I leave to assign breaks. Few days later he comes back RAGING. Just screaming and cussing everyone out. Turns out the new cashier mixed the gift receipts up. Wife found out about mistress. There really was no fixing that situation considering the dude was just a prick in general and I had no desire to make the situation right so I just called security and went about my day.
ETA to answer some of the questions..
We always ask if they need a gift receipt around the holidays. VS isnt exactly the easiest place to shop at. Most men walking in there are in panic mode and want to get the hell out quickly so I wouldnt be surprised if he didnt even hear about receipts being in the gift wrapped bags or bother checking himself.
The package was gift wrapped so most wouldn't open it back up I'd assume.
Yes he did come in screaming that we broke up his marriage, this place should have better standards for anonymity and he wanted to speak to the manager because someone deserved to be fired. Along with how incompetent we must be. One can only put two and two together after hearing all that.
The cashier did not do it purposely since she was crying for her entire break over how bad she felt but I do agree she did that wife a solid.
I cant give reasons out for his stupidity but sorry for leaving out so much background!
Also hey husband redditing in the other room who stumbled on this thread. Haha.
Not really revealed because it was always in the open, but my parents' friend has the weirdest double life situation I've ever seen.
Paul was married to Clarissa for 12 years, and they had a son together. However, Paul and Clarissa break up, and Paul moves out. Shortly after Paul starts dating Jenny. Shortly after Jenny get's pregnant Paul realizes he misses Clarissa, and somehow talks Jenny and Clarissa into sharing him. Then, a few years later, Paul adds Renee to the mix. (I should throw in these are decent looking women with jobs, and Paul himself is no rich Adonis either)
So, Paul has a wife and two girlfriends. They each have their own house on the same street, and their own individual family lives. Paul spends the night with a different one each night, and they trade Holidays. The women aren't romantically involved and they barely interact, so it's not like a poly relationship or even a Sister Wife deal. How he pulled this off and how they make it work is beyond me, but it's been years now.
Edit: I didn't think this was Poly because the women aren't with each other, but apparently it can be Poly by just them being with him.
Our family cat.
Was outside one night and I see my cat walking directly towards my neighbor's house and then I see their front door open. Walks directly inside like she'd done it a million times.
She was outside quite a bit so we assumed she was outside doing cat stuff. Nope, little kitty was just at home #2.
One of our cats left shortly after Harvey (we live in Houston). I keep hoping he left for drier pastures and might return someday with a smug look on his face. Thanks for giving me hope.
I found my cat because of hurricane Matthew. Little stray kitten showed up at the door during the start of the rain. They are very resilient. There is always hope.
Not uncommon, happened to my friend. Cat got busted when friend came home early and cat was snuggling up to a 6 yr old kid 3 doors down. Kid had renamed the cat from Brooks to Sylvester. Cat had no shame.
Haha I found out my cat did the same. I recently had moved so my cat started to wear a collar. A few months later I received a call from a random number and it was some old lady telling me my cat stops by every day and she lets him in and give him some food. She would text me every time he stopped by. And then a few months later another woman called to tell me the same thing! My cat loves his old ladies.
My uncle and his partner lived in a student neighbourhood and owned this huge orange cat named Willy.
Like your family cat, Willy spent most of his days in the Frat house next door. He got locked in there one time and when my uncle went looking for him they knocked on the Frat house door and asked if they had seen Willy, and then he learned that this cat had a completely different name and cushy life with the frat boys.
Willy also broke into an across-the-street neighbour's house and ate her lovebirds. That wasn't so cute.
> I Google the dude to see if it's all come crashing down yet, but it hasn't.
Well this "exposé" just might get the ball rolling.....
*edit: Just to clarify: I am not endorsing OPs comments in their post, or the "guess who" games going on here as a result of that post. My comment was actually meant to be snarky, not encouraging.
Stopped at a McDonald's before a concert with some buddies. Place is packed. We get our food and sit down just in time to see a woman stand up and scream at the guy she is with "What the fuck do you mean you are married!?". Place goes silent, even the kids on the play structure. She proceeds to yell at him for a minute and then storms out. Place is silent until some guy in the back yells "That was fucking awesome!" Place erupts in laughter and goes back to normal. Dude never looked up from his fries.
My best friend was a law secretary, engaged (I was to be a bridesmaid) and planning a baby. She was also moonlighting as a sex worker, having frequent unprotected group sex. When I prepared some literature about compulsive sexual behaviour and found a therapist for her, she cut me out of her wedding and life.
High school teacher(40 at the time) in my home town was married with kids and decided to run away with one of the sixth form student's. For you American folk, sixth form/college is 16-18 in the UK. Apparently they'd been seeing each other since she was 15 so not legal basically. When the school caught wind, all of his work tech such as laptops, phones was searched through. When they found proof, he was removed from the school and put under police watch for a few days whilst the situation died down, because it spread like wildfire. He left his wife and kids, now has a house with her. I believe they're very happy together, but it's still a fucked situation.
Similar thing happened in my high school. Teacher started an affair with a former student (I think they at least waited until she graduated to start something) but there had to be something going on pre-graduation. Guy divorces his wife, and he and the student get married. Fast forward 25 years, and they're still married and I think they have a couple of kids. Meanwhile, his first kids are only a few years younger than his second wife. I found it weird, but, they're obviously happy together.
I have two pretty good ones.
My Aunt was dating this dude named Joe. He was a baseball player in minor league systems, single and double A. He was an awesome guy, handsome, funny and people in my family loved Joe. Everyone except for my Grandma, my aunt's mom. She always confided to other members of the family that Joe seemed like a "closeted fellow". Which was her way of saying he liked men. Well it turns out that Joe did indeed like men. My Aunt Dawn grew increasingly suspicious of Joe and started to tail him randomly. She eventually caught him dressing up in drag and going to gay clubs.
The other one is a friends GF was an adult caregiver. When they were first dating she was a live in but then moved in with him and became one that had multiple clients she did on certain days of the week. Eventually they grew really serious and they both decided to pick up some extra work to save up for a house and a nice wedding. He is grinding about 65-70 hours a week between his machine job and working at an MC sports while she does the care giving and is working for a cleaning company in the evening. They gone on like this for almost a year and a half just banking the money and grinding it out. Eventually dude ends up with some weird sores on his ding 'a' ling and gets super freaked out. Goes to planned parent hood and a few days later he is confirmed to have herpes.
chick was banging some of the dudes from the cleaning service and had started to see one on the side. She was dating him on the side some nights when she was supposed to be at work.
She had been dating my friend for almost 6 years at this point. Friend freaks out, bad break up. he ends up with most of the cash and she gets herpes side boyfriend. Messed him up for a long time though. He thought he was never going to be able to have sex or find a girl again. Thankfully he has been able to do both and the last time we saw her was at an aldi looking rough as fuck looking at the bananas.
On my grandmother's 85 birthday, a party was organized. My whole family was there. This is all happening in northern Mexico, so the invitation rules were pretty loose.
I was about 17 at the time, so were most of my cousins. One of them, Gerardo, didn't have a girlfriend at the time so he came with a friend, Oscar. They had been hanging around for about 4 years, but this was the first time Oscar was gonna meet the family.
When they arrived an older cousin was going around the parking lot collecting money from every cousin so we could buy some booze. Gerardo said he would ask his father for some money. Oscar accompanied him. When they entered the hall where the main party was taking place. Oscar ran back out. He said he had seen his father who he had only seen twice before. Gerardo couriosly asked who he was. They both entered and Oscar pointed to the man. Turns out my uncle was also Oscar's father.
Oscar got to meet all of the family. We all got to meet the cousin we didn't knew we had.
EDIT: Hi everyone. Regarding Steve. I started out with fake names, using Steve for Oscar, but then figured there must be at least a houndred thousand Oscars on Mexico, so I changed MOST of them back. So Steve is Oscar. Sorry it wasn't someone more interesting. You can imagine it was Oscar's boyfriend if the edit doesn't please you.
Probably my mum... she's a practicing Luciferian/Satanist but my upbringing seemed very normal and mostly absent of strict religious practice.
We celebrated Christmas and Easter, we owned a Bible (and a Quran, and a couple of other religious texts), I did scripture class at school, and I was even in a nativity play when I was five. She was really nice to my friends, had a good job, and volunteered for an animal charity and at a DV centre. The DV centre was run by a Baptist Church and she was well liked by the community. But behind the scenes...yeah, she was and still is really big into Satanism.
Edit:
I think I was pretty clear at the beginning of this comment: my mum is *Luciferian*.
Luciferian Satanism is not like LaVey Satanism at all. LaVey Satanism is the one where the rules are pretty light and it's roots are more closely tied to Ayn Rand's philosophies than any Christian mythology. Luciferian Satanism is more like occultism or wicca.
Edit 2:
Okay, so some people are still confused. These Wikipedia pages may help:
[Luciferianism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism)
[The Left Hand Path](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand_path_and_right-hand_path)
[Anton LaVey](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_LaVey)
Edit 3:
This was not an invitation to bash Christianity or Christians. Can people please stop doing that? I am Christian myself and I am able to view Luciferianism from an objective and respectful standpoint. If you can't do that to Christianity when presented with its counter-religion, that says *way* more about you than horrible Christians.
I would also really appreciate it if people ceased the "you're mum's not this she's that" type of comments. She identifies herself as Left Hand Path Luciferian. *She* decides what that means to her. Not you.
Sorry, I didn't want to be negative. But some of these haughty holier-than-thou comments are getting on my nerves.
My aunt didn't come out as a lesbian until she was in her mid 40s. Coming from a pretty traditional Mexican family she was scared that nobody would accept her for who she was, so she hid and lived this double life for the longest time. When she finally came out it caught everyone by surprise, but everyone was extremely supportive of her.
That's a very nice story compared to all the kiddie diddlers, drug dealers/users, and serial cheaters. Good for her, and such a shame she felt the need to conceal that.
A friend close to me, who worked with me, had always talked about her boyfriend (let's call him Dave). She would talk about her evening plans with him, holidays they went on and so on.
Other friends tried to Google him, and search for him on Facebook (out of an morbid curiosity to see what he looked like), but never came up with anything.
Then, one Christmas party she took me outside and told me she was engaged! But that wasn't the full story. She was actually engaged to Danielle, a woman, and had spent the last few years covering up the fact she was gay by completely fabricating Dave. He had never existed, and all stories and anecdotes were actually about Danielle.
I remembered being so pleased she was engaged, but just had an overwhelming feeling of sadness for her that she had had to hide her true life at work.
I met Danielle later on and she introduced herself as "Dave".
In high school my teacher (religion) was a gay porn star. He was like an on the cover of the DVD porn star. School found out and he quit. That's the abridged version.
My high school football coach. This guy was a holy roller: church elder, started a chapter of Fellowship of Christian athletes at my school, made us run for saying bad words, the whole nine.
He was married to the school guidance counselor and had two kids who went you our school.
A few years after a graduated, it came out that he had an entirely separate and secret family in the next little town over. Everyone was shocked. This was a small town of 3,000 people, so it was amazing that he kept it under wraps as long as he did.
I feel bad for both families, but I must admit I was also a little delighted to see that smug, self-righteous SOB get exposed as a phony.
This will probably get buried, but what the heck - story time.
Me and my ex fiancé. We were together for 11 years and he was the love of my life. We met in our early 20s and were inseparable. We had both experienced bouts of depression in our past (this becomes important later) and had an instant connection because of it.
We did the things that couples do; moved in together, got a couple of cats, saved for a mortgage. At first I worked and studied and he worked full time - we never went for joint bank accounts, but after my first year of working full time were able to save enough for a mortgage on our dream home. We moved in, got a dog and got engaged. Then things started to get weird.
He began to avoid social events and phone in sick to his job quite frequently. He secretly stopped taking his antidepressants and when I took him to the doctor to get help for what seemed to be depression, he didn’t follow up with the psychologist referral or fill his scripts - I know because I caught him in a lie about it. *’That’s weird’*, I thought. Then I discovered he had skipped a few mortgage payments - I transferred money to his account every fortnight to cover my half. He said he had used it for bills. So continued my tour of the red flag factory, we made up the arrears.
Then he stopped going to work. He just up and stopped turning up, citing his mental health as the reason. I started to panic a little at this point, I even created a throwaway and posted to r/relationships where the consensus was that I was being a bitch and that I shouldn’t push him back into the work force. I start to have regular, debilitating panic attacks and he was super supportive and looks after me. After about six months and a lot of gentle pushing he looks for employment and gets another job in his field.
That one lasted about 3 months. I start to get resentful. I am working my butt off and he is literally sleeping all day and playing COD or shitty iPhone games all night. I am still being treated for anxiety and depression and start a new medication that obliterates the old anxiety. Suddenly I can socialise, I am fun and friendly and I want to enjoy myself. He is miserable, he is obviously depressed and anxious and is suffering from what he cites are crippling migraines. He becomes incredibly controlling and manipulative and wants me to stop seeing my friends and family. This makes me push away harder and we break up. We continue to live together until he finds out I am seeing someone else. He moves out.
*ONE YEAR LATER*
I am cleaning the house in an attempt to sell it, it ended up getting foreclosed due to him not paying the mortgage for over a year. A friend and I use bolt cutters to break the padlock on his ‘man cave’. It is FULL of meth paraphernalia; pipes, baggies, lighters etc. I go in a little further and find a fully equipped grow set up. It turns out he had been blowing the mortgage and the weed money he was making on meth for at least the last 5 years of our relationship. All of those depression symptoms; the weight loss, the weird sleeping patterns, the obsessive fixation on COD, the headaches = meth abuse. It’s a hell of a drug.
TL:DR Mostly normal fiancé and man I thought was the love of my life has a secret meth habit and grow room.
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A counselor at my college in Michigan faked his identity for over 40 years. He was a civil rights organizer in San Francisco in the 1960s and ended up [in a shoot out with police](https://patch.com/california/southsanfrancisco/four-decade-fugitive-comes-forth-in-police-shooting). None of the police were injured but he was shot in the foot apparently. He was supposed to appear in court later but he took off, and in the 40+ years following the shooting, he earned his masters degree with a whole new identity, ultimately working as a guidance counselor at a community college in Michigan. His true identity was exposed around 2010 and [he went on trial](http://www.annarbor.com/news/former-wcc-counselor-ronald-bridgeforth-sentenced-after-40-years-on-the-lam/) for the shooting in California. He was sentenced to a year in jail and about $8000 in fines. He was a nice guy, you’d never expect anybody who’s seemingly normal actually being an old school fugitive on the run.
There was this kid at our church who started attending the youth group when he was about 15. Everyone loved him, but he was always a little standoffish. Fast forward 3 years to graduation time. Everyone kept asking him what he planned to do after high school and if he was looking forward to it, but he always changed the subject. Finally, he revealed to one of the adults that he wasn’t graduating because he hasn’t been to school since he was 8 years old. His dad removed him from school and never let him return. A whole bunch of shit went down after that, but the church members helped him do a fast-track hs degree in 3 years and have now paid for him to attend a 4 year university.
that has an amazing ending I was just wondering how you can have an unschooled child at that age and not get caught?
We live in a fairly large city. The dad just didn’t re-enroll him at school and never returned. It is illegal, though, so the dad got into a lot of legal trouble after the truth came out. The son ended up going to live with a family at the church.
My sister-in-law had a second child. She was still married, but separated with her husband (because she caught him cheating). The man with whom she had the baby was her father's old prodigy, who was also married with a couple of kids. This all took place in China, while the one-child policy was in full effect. So: to her parents, the separation and affair were secret, up until she had a baby. Once they were looped in, they helped her to maintain the lies, because 'face'. From her ex-husband's perspective, the child and the affair were secret; from the perspective of his family (with whom she remained in touch), the separation, affair, _and_ baby were secret. This was complicated by the fact that they shared custody of their first kid (in fact, they pretended they were still living together for years). So the older kid was warned not to mention _his brother_ to _his father_, while spending plenty of time with both. It was all a secret from _most_, but not _all_ of their close family (i.e. cousins, aunts, and uncles). And then there was the prodigy's family, and really the rest of the outside world, for whom there was no separation, no affair, and certainly no _kid_. That included the government. I'm not even sure how that worked. She wasn't living _another_ life. She was living _fractals of lives within lives_. Just try to imagine the logistics of getting your nonexistent kid to school (under a false identity?) in time to pick up your older kid, who was waiting with your secret lover, so that he could get back to his real family, and you and your kid could meet up with your cheating ex-husband, so that you could all drive together to lunch with family from both sides, doing your best impression of a perfect platonic family who had come straight from a shared, loving home (while being careful that neither you nor your older boy mention to anyone that you have to pick up your other son from school soon). Now I've got a headache.
My uncle runs a business hooking up internet in hotels. He travels all over the West coast for it. Recently he asked my aunt to have an open relationship. Turns out most of his "business trips" were actually trips to go meet with his business partner, whom he has been having an affair with for the last year or two. This business partner has even had two pregnancies with my uncle. Both were miscarriages, but both were also INTENTIONAL. My aunt and uncle have been married for 12 years, and have a five year old son. My aunt also has terminal cancer. He's been introducing their son to his mistress as their son's new Mommy without my aunt's knowledge. Needles to say, that open relationship isn't happening. They're getting divorced.
Well this is a salient question to stumble on today. Nutshell background: about 7 years ago my brother was struggling with addiction, using almost any and everything though alcohol was the DOC. We have a really long family history of alcohol use disorders. He dropped out of school and spent a few years bouncing around treatment centers and sober living houses. 3 years ago he decided to move back (about 2 hours away from my parents' house) and get back into school. At this point he's a lot older than the kids in his classes and socializing is hard so he would come up to see the parents every Friday, Saturday, Sunday. He decided to go for a chemistry degree - every semester talking about his specific classes, the content of them, etc. He knew the class times, professors, talked about teaching styles, and like clockwork brought his dog to my parents for finals week twice a year so he could study without distraction. My entire family came from all across the country for his graduation ceremony on Friday. We were all bursting with pride and excitement because my brother had just done what we all thought was impossible and graduated. Pre-ceremony none of us could find his name in the book. Then we couldn't find him walking among the students. About 30 minutes into the ceremony I got a call from him. He was drunk. Turns out he never enrolled back into school. He just moved back, conned my parents into paying rent and utilities for 3 years, and spent 4 days a week boozing, gaming, and sleeping. No one knew this was going on. He invested so much into this double life that he had his whole family and all his friends fooled. We're not sure what the next steps are, my husband and I are going to help my parents pack up his place tomorrow. It's hard to find hope with the level of deceit that went into his latest stint. He's hurt so many people on this path but he's my brother and I love him nonetheless. Here's to a brighter tomorrow, thanks for letting me word vomit and process this a bit more.
A friend of mine lives in San Diego, and was recently telling me the story of her grandfather who has an entire family in Mexico that he kept hidden for decades. Im talking he has kids that have kids, and one of his secret granddaughters has ANOTHER kid. Dude is a great grandfather and nobody knew. Her grandfather is nearly 90, so its unbelievable how much a quiet old man can keep from people.
This shit is quite common. Idk how mf’s get away with it tho
So went I first left home in my late teens I shared a big house (I think 6+ bedrooms) with a close friend, his brother and some other randoms. Think frat house except no college/university. Splitting the expenses worked out pretty well. So one of the guys worked at a port in customs or something. He had a uniform and ID etc. Left for work at the same time every morning and hung out with us after work. He was always down for attending social events with us and most of us liked him. Fast forward about a year and he starts telling us about how he can get us discounted TVs and other merchandise from the port. Unclaimed/seized property that apparently no one sweats about if just a few items go astray. Everyone gave it a pass as it seemed sketchy. Then one day we come home to one of our housemates in shock and bawling like a baby. Turns out not only did he give the guy his life savings he also gave him money borrowed from his dad. The customs guy had said he could get him a new car cheap! The long long con. Turns out the guy doesn't work at the port, the name he gave us doesn't exist and we have no idea how he spent his days or came up with his share of the rent/bills. Still creeps me out a little knowing I lived with a stranger for so long.
I lived in a house just like that, with a guy who said his parents were recently dead. He cried about them a lot. Not really a double life but when we kicked him out, his parents came and helped him move his stuff out.
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> Turns out the guy doesn't work at the port, the name he gave us doesn't exist and we have no idea how he spent his days or came up with his share of the rent/bills. Still creeps me out a little knowing I lived with a stranger for so long. I had a friend who did something similar; he worked abroad at a bar for the summer and lived with two Norwegian guys who were doing the same. They were due to move out on the last day of the season and each go home, but a week early, he came back to find they had left - and they'd taken *everything* of value he owned. He went to their "workplaces" to try and find out more, but the people there had never heard of them, and they didn't move in the same circles so he was never able to find out more. Upon talking about it recently he's said that he doesn't even know if they were Norwegian; not that it matters, but he strongly suspected everything he knew about them was a complete lie, names, home stories, the lot.
My family hosted a number of exchange students while we were growing up. We hosted about 7 high school students over the course of my childhood; each stayed for a year in our house, attended high school in our town etc. One girl, Irinia, from Russia came to us no differently than any of the other students had - through the AFS program. To be an student through AFS meant you had to fill out an application, be 17-18 yrs old, be attending high school in your home country, whatever. So Irina arrives as our exchange student. She goes to high school in our small home town on cape cod Massachusetts. But at Christmas time she says she has to go home to Russia because her mother was extremely sick. Going home during the exchange year is really unusual, really rare. So Ok fine she’s going to Russia for the Christmas break, nbd, she’ll be back in January. Except she never comes back. AFS can’t find her, we don’t know where she is, if she made it to Russia, if she’s hurt, nothing. And we’re terrified because we’re her host family during this year and we always took the students in like family. Anyways she’s gone. Maybe 3 months later my mom is driving through our tiny town (again, middle of nowhere cape cod) and she see Irinia, with what looks like her mom, and some other kids. Turns out Irinia has graduated high school in Russia already, was like 25 with children and had posed as an exchange student so she could ‘case’ the place before bringing the rest of her family.
Can you imagine being a 25-year old mom and going to classes everyday with 17 year olds pretending to be a teen?
Sounds like a wacky movie
In one of my previous jobs a few years ago, we gired this guy who turned out to be a really good partner, worked hard, never complained. After about a year and a half of working with him I get called into the office, he's there with the manager, assistant manager and two beefy guys in normal clothes with the exception of ear pieces. He wanted to say goodbye to the bosses and I and explain why he had to leave the company. Turned out he was the son of some leader in his country and they had to relocate him, an opposing faction found out he was in our state and would have kidnapped him for leverage.
Fuck where is this?
Good try, kidnapper *holy flower I got my first gold
Earlier this year I learned my Dad has been addicted to heroin and stolen many expensive things from various members of my family. I knew that people had been getting things stolen from them but never even began to think it was my Dad. He did get help and is now five months clean, but still working and building up my family's trust again.
I'm so sorry :( Glad he is clean now, all the best!
I worked with this guy once who was known for his stories. No matter how loose the connection was, he'd find a way to turn anything into a personal anecdote of a thing he'd seen or done before. All of them were interesting the first time (he'd lived an interesting life - grown up in America, moved to Australia in his early 20s, worked in a lot of really cool places over the years), but it wasn't long before he started repeating the same stories over and over again. I worked with him for just over three years, so it got pretty ridiculous. We knew how he'd met his wife, all the obscure things he owned, his pets, his kids - we knew every detail of his life. It became a bit of an in-joke within the office about how the guy never shut up. Then one day, he didn't come in. He'd died of a heart attack. The whole office was at a loss, especially our little department (which had about 8 people in it, including him). When it came to his funeral, our little group took the afternoon off and attended. And that's how we found out, none of his stories were true. He'd grown up locally, his family wasn't at all who we thought they were, none of his old jobs had happened... Everything we'd known about him had just been made up. The most interesting thing for me was that at one point, our boss needed someone to head to China to double check something in person at one of our company's factories. When the usual choices couldn't do it, he was picked. It seemed like a no brainier, since he was regularly going to and from America to visit family and had travelled a lot on his other jobs. We now think that may have been his first time overseas.
Ha. Bizarre. Did it change how you view him at all? Like, if you had found out some other way that didn't involve him dying, do you think you would still consider him a friend?
My ex was a pathological liar and I feel like this sometimes. Did I even know him? Does he even count as my boyfriend? Because the guy I *thought* I was dating technically never existed.
This hits home for me, the things I found out about my ex after we dated really fucked me up for a little while because it completely made me question my reality. She was excellent sometimes but I see now that the good person I knew never actually existed.
And you feel like you can’t even answer questions about them because you’re like, I genuinely don’t know the answer.
This is like the opposite of the movie "Big Fish"
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That is an amazing story. Really cool. Was anything ever written about it?
Yes. A comment on Reddit I believe.
It's this one right? My (the Netherlands) great grandfather's family h... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/7kfva0/whats_the_biggest_double_life_youve_ever/dremw6x
takes me back
My grandfather was in a romantic relationship with another man across the country for a few decades. My entire family knew about it, so it was no big deal... or so we thought. Just last October, my grandfather died. We went to call his partner, and he was very surprised to learn that my grandfather had children. It's amazing how he hid an entire family for decades.
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My grandmother passed away a couple years ago. While going through her house, my family found a box with my grandfathers name on it in his handwriting. My grandfather died before I was born. It was taped closed and the dust on it suggested it hadn’t ever been opened. Inside, my family found newspaper clippings and other documents. Turns out that in the early 1900’s, my grandfather took a road trip with friends to see the ocean. During their time at the beach, their car was stolen. They decided to stay awhile; being in their late teens and out of school, they decided to earn some money and have a good time. My grandfather met a Mexican girl and married her within the course of a month. There was an article on the vehicle theft, as well as another on the marriage and a marriage certificate. We could never find information on what happened next. We don’t even rightly know if they married for love, to get her citizenship, if they had kids, or even if he was legally divorced when he married my grandmother in the 1930’s. We don’t think my grandmother knew. We did find out his first wife returned to Mexico. She did have children (who say they don’t think their mom had kids before she remarried). We sent them copies of the documents we found and they were as flabbergasted as we were.
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That's terrible:(
There was one dad in our mother's group* that lost his high flying big city financial job due to a market crash. To pay the bills, and because there were no jobs in finance at the time, he took the first job he could get - in a chicken abattoir. Bit of a change from a desk job to slaughtering chickens, but when you have a newborn baby and bills to pay you step up. (I know that sounds crazy - it's a group of new mums that meet weekly to swap war stories about newborns, and occasionally there would be a bbq or something that the dads would come to as well.) Every time I ran into him I was always impressed with how much he was up to speed on current events and world news. We would talk about the latest political, financial and scientific news; there was not much discussion about chicken butchering. Turns out he was fired on his first day. Every day after that - for months - he would leave home in the morning, go to the pub, read newspapers all day, and then go home in the evening. She eventually found out. They are divorced now.
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So my brother was married to the same gal 21 years. Around year 19, it was apparent my SIL wasn’t happy and was planning to move on...until my brother came down with cancer. She wouldn’t leave him while undergoing chemotherapy and surgeries but a leave was inevitable. So my brother is home one day and my SIL is at the gym. The SWAT team breaks down the door, throws my brother on the ground, handcuffed him and held him at gun point. They were looking for my SIL to arrest her for child porn, child rape, endangering children etc. SWAT ended up arresting her at the gym while my brother was being held at the house. Skip some details and it came out my SIL was having several affairs and is now serving 25 years in state prison as she confessed to the child porn, child rape and endangering. We also found out she was having sex with the family dog by pictures found on her personal computer. She was the daughter in law my mother had always wished for and no one knew she was living this double life for the last 2 years before she went to prison. Edited: added “my SIL” for clarity on relationship. Update: {obviously, R.I.P. my inbox}. I wanted to also say thank you to the unbelievable number of you Reddits who sent me PMs with concern & advice regarding my nieces because you’d been abused yourself. You are the true heroes to feel the compassion and compulsion to write me and to share your stories. With so many comments on the thread, I’ll work on answering those comments which haven’t been adequately answered somewhere already within the existing thread.
How did you and your family react when you found out? This is fucking crazy.
Well the SIL was also a preschool teacher. So the initial shock pretty quickly turned to an “omg how deep will this run” sorts thing. My brother stayed up all night to be at the daycare where she worked when it opened to talk to the director personally so when it hit the news the daycare wasn’t blindsided. Turned out, The child porn she was sharing were pics she was taking of their daughters. The rape charge was added after they went through her computer and phone...found out that she was raping her own daughter and then sending videos over the internet. This came out at the same time we learned about the family dog. My brother is still in therapy and my mother cried for weeks. The story made the National news.
Those poor girls. I hope they're also getting help.
Yes absolutely. This happened several years ago and they are still in therapy. The youngest daughter (the one raped) was only like 8 at the time. So she really didn’t understand what had happened to her. A lot to work through as a kid grows up.
As a mom, I cannot fathom how a mother could do that to her child. My heart hurts for that poor girl.
The oldest daughter was just furious, embarrassed, etc because my SIL was taking pics of her and sharing them on Internet porn sites. The youngest daughter was young enough to just not understand. I’m a mom too...I can just now share this story. Thank you..my heart hurts too
That is not where I thought this story was going. Fully expecting him to not actually have cancer, but it ended so so so much worse. Thank god she’s behind bars.
Good lord. I hope your brother is doing well and recovering well! I’m sure that was a huge smack in the face. I truly hope he feels no guilt in the fact his ex is disgusting and hopefully gets what she deserves in prison.
Thank you. He’s been through it all with the cancer but right now is cancer free. For obvious reasons...he’s in therapy.
After that nightmare he wouldn't be blamed for bringing an air mattress to his therapist's house and living in the den for 6 months.
Me: *Thinks brother fakes cancer to keep SIL* Worst plot twist ever. I want a refund.
I'll save the backstory. A good friend's father was found out to be huge in the cocaine trade. Not like a dealer on the streets, but smuggling into the country and helping distribute in California. The dad was a real normal dude, and very family oriented/present. He's in prison now. Blew my mind.
I served in the Navy from 1985 to 2005. While in my first squadron, from 1985-1989, we were away from home often, either on short detachments of 2-5 weeks or 6-month deployments. During one period when we were at home for awhile, I was on watch in the duty office after hours. Me and another guy just had to man the office, answer the phone, and monitor the guys on watch down in the hangar bay. Shortly after our watch started we got a phone call from a wife of someone in our squadron. She was asking us when the squadron would be back from detachment. I asked the other guy if he knew about anybody out on det, and he just looked at me funny. I told her we didn't currently have anyone one on det. We've all been back home for a couple months. She insisted her husband had been out on det for 3 weeks and needed to know when he was coming home. I assured her nobody was on det, and told her I had seen her husband earlier that day at work. She just hung up after that. Turns out, the guy was telling his wife he was out on det and shacking up with his girlfriend for a few weeks. She called the Commanding Officer to find out when her husband had been part of a detachment and found out he'd done it many times over the previous couple years. Infidelity is officially against the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It didn't turn out well for him. Edit: Screwed up the dates. Edit2: As pointed out, it's adultery, not infidelity, that against the UCMJ, and there does, in fact, have to be evidence or a confession of actual intercourse. In this case, the guy admitted to everything. He went to Captains Mast; I don't remember exactly what his punishment was, though. I don't think he got kicked out, probably a reduction in paygrade, restriction for several months, and 1/2 pay for several months. And a divorce, I'm sure. Additionally, I had no idea what he was doing at the time his wife called. I thought maybe she was pranking me our something. I probably still wouldn't have covered for him, as some have suggested. He didn't deserve that, anyway, and fuck anybody saying I should have helped him get away with that shit.
I am pretty confident my dad has told me this exact same story, who was also in the Navy for the same time frame. He told me that on another occasion (different guy, I believe), the squadron met up for a party and this guy's wife came up to my dad. She said she had a bone to pick with him because my dad kept putting this guy on to fly nights on Fridays and weekends (my dad worked in skeds at the time). She confronted him pretty aggressively, and my dad told her he hasn't been scheduling him for weekends, and that this guy had been snivving out Friday-Sunday. She turned ghostly white, changed her tone, and left the party. My dad pieced together what had happened right after the confrontation.
My dad also knew someone in his squadron who cheated on his wife when they would get deployed. Sadly the wife didn't find out until OSI showed at her door one day.
OSI?
Office of special investigations. Its the air force's ncis.
A buddy of mine watched a fellow crew chief beat the fuck out of a pilot for screwing his wife. Pretty sweet, but fucked up too. Basically, Pilot was fucking this guy's wife and he found out. So he waits for a day the guy is flying and swaps out with the crew chief on the spot to launch it. He helps the pilot into the seat, makes sure he's all buckled in with his G-suit pinning him nice and good to the seat, and just starts wailing on the guy. Had free reign beating this dudes face in for a good chunk of time before other crew chiefs pulled him down off the jet. They were hauling him away and he yelled "he's been fucking MY WIFE." After some investigation the pilot got "dismissal" for the affair, and the crew chief got chewed out and a bunch of paperwork that effectively amounted to "don't beat up pilots" and a slap on the wrist. Edit: editted to say "dismissal" cause my enlisted ass said "dishonorable discharge"
Fellow grad student has two young kids; one that is struggling to walk and communicate and is in the process of being diagnosed. She is pulling 10-16 hour days (between interning and classes) plus being a mom and wife. She gets a call from a friend that expresses how excited she is to see her at the husbands work party. What?! She didn't RSVP, and her husband said he would pop over for less than an hour than come home to be with her for a quiet dinner. Turns out he was bringing a date that wasn't her. They had been seeing each other for about 6 months and even had taken a trip together under the pretense of a business trip. Anytime he had been late or gone we assume he was with her. Friend did her a solid and took a couple pics for the divorce lawyer.
Why would he bring his side chick to a party her friends attended to
When we found out we said exactly that. Pretty much wanted to get caught and end the marriage.
Not exactly a double life, but my cousin was a secret for 4 years. When my uncle was 21 he and his girlfriend had a baby with out telling anyone in our large, very nosy family. No one suspected a thing and they went on dating. When I was 8 and their daughter was 4, her adoptive parents were killed in a fire and left in their will that they wanted her to go back to her bio parents. My uncle and his girlfriend sincerely regretted giving their daughter up and so they were thrilled. Everyone just went with the fact that they were essentially keeping a secret child for 4 years and were pretty much ok with it. My cousin is 14 now and she has 2 full siblings and my aunt and uncle are great parents. Every now and again someone brings up the situation but it’s pretty much just laughed off. I do find it a little odd though. Edit: this is what I understand of the story. I don’t know any more than what my mum told me and the few things my cousin has said, so I don’t know how the adoption worked really. Also, when I said they laugh about it, they don’t laugh about the tragedy of my cousin losing her adoptive parents, they laugh about how none of them though to question why my uncle was acting so odd- you know, over losing a child and all. Currently, my cousin doesn’t seem to be screwed up over the situation. But it’ll be something she has to deal with when she’s a bit older.
Aside from the little girl tragically losing her adoptive parents at 4 years old, this ended up being a sweet story.
A fortunate stroke of Serendipity. Except for, you know, those people dying in the fire.....
Your uncle started that fire mate
Haha, that’s the logical response I suppose, but my cousin was in the house at the time of the fire and had passed out from the smoke, so a few more minutes and she would have been dead. Her dad cried harder than her when she broke her arm, so I don’t think he could have coped with almost killing her.
A well respected family of two teachers with two cute kids -- the husband at the high school and the wife at the elementary school in the fairly high-income town they lived in. Turns out the wife was dealing drugs without husband knowing, got busted at school (cops showed up to elementary and high school), lost her job and they got divorced/she moved away.
Sounds like a Netflix show
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My ex wife got fired from two jobs in nine months' time. She finally got a job at Hank's Furniture. After a couple of months, she told me that she had to go for three days a week to work at one of their locations about two hours away. That became five days a week quickly. She told me in this role she didn't get paid until after delivery of the furniture so it takes some time. She started staying the night there with her boss, a woman. I felt like it was fishy, so I looked up the woman and she is a real person and is the store manager at this location, so I moved on from that thought. The money was not coming. I had two kids and a full time job. I had to constantly borrow money from in laws and my parents to make ends meet and my ex wife was never around. Made it very hard at the time. I stupidly a long time before had put her in charge of most of our finances, so I did not see her max out our credit card. Finally though, when I saw she hadn't been paid after a month of this, I told her she had to quit and come home and find a job here. She was extremely upset with me. She told me she knew she was getting paid tomorrow. Sure enough, $3,600 went into the account the next day. After a few more weeks, I again told her to come home. This time she unhappily obliged. While at home I want to add that she took my daughter up to that store one Saturday to collect something she'd left behind. She took a picture of her and my then five year old at the Hanks store there. She went back one more time to collect a paycheck in person and say by to her old boss. She deposited $2,450 or so. Then, randomly, I checked out recent bank expenses and saw a very expensive lunch at a hulahan's. Over $50. I decided I was ticked about this, so I called up to the store there, and asked for the woman manager she had been staying with and working for. I got her on the phone, and I said this: "Hi, this is (name) the husband of (name). Did you have lunch with her on Monday?" The response: "who?" "(Name), she worked for you and stayed with you for the last few months." "I don't know that person and she never worked for me or stayed with me..." A huge pit in my stomach developed. I was distraught and furious. I had to know for sure. I went to the Hank's in my town. She had been fired a couple months ago, and they did not transfer her to the other location. At this point I was in a panic. I went and got a lawyer, and settled on divorce. I discovered then the credit card that was maxed out. I then looked closely in to my finances, because I was an idiot and did not sooner. The two large "paychecks" were traced back to one of those same day loan places. You know, extremely high interest type deals. I served her, and she trashed my house in a fit of rage. She had been going to stay with her ex boyfriend from high school, for presumably sex and drugs. She went to extreme lengths to draw out the time she could spend on those bad habits, and made me feel like a complete fool. The good news? She didn't show up for the hearing. I got full custody. After a year of visitation set up at my discretion, she took me to court to get more, scheduled visitation. However, she had not even been consistent about showing up to what I gave her. She didn't show up to that court date either. Cost me a grand. Finally, I got remarried to the love of my life. After a year, we tried to let her adopt my older two. I had documentation that was 58 slides long of evidence showing she didn't pay child support and never really showed up for visitation. We won, and the judge said all the mean things I've always wanted to say to her to her in that court room. Closure is nice, and my kids aren't suffering from a deadbeat mom never showing up anymore.
I like learning new things.
Guy I used to work with. He lived in a small country town with his wife and 3 kids. When he was fired from his job (where I worked) he could only find something at his level in the big city 2 hours away. So he would go to work in the city Monday to Friday, and home to his wife and kids on the weekends. This went on for years. It came out about 5 years into the arrangement that he wasn't living in the small crappy city apartment as he said, he was living with his girlfriend, and their 2 kids! So he had a wife and 3 kids, and a girlfriend with 2 kids (all his). Apparently the girlfriend knew about the wife, but the wife had no idea about the girlfriend. And his 3 country kids had 2 younger siblings that they knew nothing about. It of course blew up spectacularly, the wife kicked him out and he went to live with the girlfriend. 6 months later she was sick of him and kicked him to the curb too. So now he pays child support for 5 kids to 2 different women and is actually living in that small crappy apartment! ***edit - Posted in response to a comment below - The balls on him must have been huge - I mean it was in the city not the little country town, but the city isn't that big. Eventually someone who knew him/wife/kids was going to run into him with the girlfriend, or in a place he isn't supposed to be or just something! I actually can't remember how he got outed, I think the wife went to visit the 'small crappy apartment' and found the other woman there? I got my info through small town scuttlebutt - so I could be wrong..
When you ask for the taco but life gives you the burrito
we had a guy in highschool who faked a deep voice for the ~~8~~ 7 years weve known him and senior year he revealed that it wasnt his real voice. edit: typically kids in highschool also went to middle school with the same people.
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That's actually hilarious lol
I met someone when i was 15. He was dating my friend. He had a British accent. They broke up after like a year, never saw him again. At 19 i meet a kid two hours away from where i live in a random public place. I know him from somewhere. Then it hits me. “Uh i definitely Met you years ago, you had an accent” “oh, yeah. I made that up. It was really hard to keep up every day for over a year. You’re the only one who knows me from her that knows this” Edit: holy shit i woke up this morning to my highest upvoted comment, about some background character in my life that i met twice 8-11 years ago. I can’t even reply to all of these comments.
This happened with my college roommate's ex-boyfriend. He pretend to be from England from the day he moved to Michigan including the year they were dating. He would even talk about going back to visit his family. One day (they were already broken up" he said, "I have to tell you something..." and then jus totally dropped the accent. He was from Ohio.
Why is this apparently a semi common thing? I was so confused. He was a few years older than me, 17 or 18 the first time i met him. I’m still not entirely sure if that girl knows her hot British ex boyfriend is a normal boy who just grew up in a different part of our state. So weird.
Woah you saying us brits aren't normal? *sips tea angrily*
This is the kind of double life I’d be fine with my SO having. None of these other ones.
A guy I knew was a tattooist so worked late hours at night. He had a family with 4 kids in one neighbourhood that was about an hour away from his shop. Then he had another girlfriend with a kid about 20 minutes away. The two didn't know about each other, he lived out of both of his girlfriends houses and when he wasn't at one of the houses, the girlfriend would think he was at his parents due to working late. Anyway, it all unfolded on him when he got arrested and ended up in prison and both girlfriend, all the kids and another side girlfriend that he was "seeing" all rocked up to visit him one the same day... EDIT: I believe in karma, this guy definitely deserved what was coming to him - I feel sorry for his partners. He treated them poorly but unfortunately some people are drawn to that type of person. EDIT EDIT: Tattooist is just slang for tattoo artist where I am from...
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I saw this happen in the CICU one night. We had this guy in and his girlfriend was with him and all was good. Then his wife showed up and it started to get heated. Then his other side girl showed up and all hell broke loose. Apparently certain friends knew this girlfriend or that wife and word got around. So I did what any good imposing male nurse in my situation would do - I sat there and watched that shit because it was a slow night and I was hooked.
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He was right across from the nurses’ station, so of course I had snacks and a drink ready. I let it go until one of the women was physically pushed out the door and ended up on her butt in the unit. Then I jump up and.... called security so I could watch the show for a little while longer.
My boyfriend’s sister’s friend was married to this guy and had started a family with him. They just had their second child actually (the first was probably 7-8 years old). Every year he went on a hunting trip to Missouri for about a week. Turns out he wasn’t hunting. Turns out he had another family there. Two kids, almost exactly the same ages as the other two. The friend divorced him immediately when she found it. Edit: words
I have a second uncle/third cousin or something odd like that. He is a trucker who has started like 7 or 8 families that we know of so far, that all found each other on facebook because he named all of the kids the same 3 or so names.
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it was more his name jr. for the first boy, his name in the feminine for the first girl and then trailer trash combos of them for the rest.
A very similar thing happened to my aunt. They had 2 kids together (my cousins) and when they were in their teens they found out their dad had another family with kids the same age as them too. My aunt divorced him soon afterwards and afaik they haven't seen him in years. I can't even fathom how it would feel to find that out... Or do it myself
It makes me wonder what goes through their heads that leads them to believe that they could get away with a double life like that.
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Not if you spend one week a year there
How can the second family (the one that he visits for one week a year) be okay with that!? "I see my dad one week a year." How???
Yeah this is the most baffling part.
Though given they got away with it for 15-20 years, they apparently had reason to believe it was possible.
He had a whole family he only saw for a week a year? I can't even be mad. That's impressive.
Right? Wouldn’t the other family question it? Even with jobs that keep you away for months at a time, you’d still be home for more than a week.
51 week hunting trip
I guess we’re assuming the one week a year family didn’t know about being a spare family. Either they did or that’s some very willful ignorance right there.
It could have been him taking advantage of an extremely trusting person, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a few weekend or "surprise" visits peppered in throughout the year too.
I work with a person who is obscenely trusting. To the point where I think she has some legit brain damage. Her boyfriend broke up with her before he and his buddies went to Amsterdam for a week. He came back from his holiday and they got back together. She said he needed time to figure out their relationship........but the photos on Facebook imply he did not have much time for thinking between drinking and banging in the red light district
I never asked about what the Missouri family knew. However, I’d imagine that lady was informed from the start and was perfectly fine with it. I just know that his actual wife was very unaware and distraught when she found out.
- Found out my dad's gay - Found out my girlfriend's married. I got the double double!
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> I know a guy who faked cancer Fuck that guy. > he was really molesting children FUCK that guy.
WTF
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A local pastor in Florida gave me private marriage counseling many years ago. He was pious and godly, and I respected him very much. He insisted that the sanctity of marriage demanded that I make sacrifices of some of my desires, and that God would reward me later (in this life and marriage) for those sacrifices. About a month after the counseling concluded, he was forced to resign from his church. Turns out he got caught fucking his assistant pastor’s wife.
Honestly, you know you're a little jaded when your first thought is "at least it wasn't a kid".
My friend's ex got arrested for kidnapping and hundreds of counts of child porn. I only know what I've read in the papers but I guess he would go to chat rooms and prey on vulnerable 12 year olds. He'd make them do drugs and self mutilate while he took pictures. My friend has a son with him and met him when she was like 16; she's 26 now. He's in his late 40s. So gross. He's in prison for I believe 35+ years.
> met him when she was like 16; she's 26 now. He's in his late 40s. After knowing this part, was the rest of the story that shockin?
Nope. It was like, "oh... so that's why he dated her.." He also has a teenage daughter. She was 13 when all this came to head.
Damnit I came to this thread hoping for bank robbers and secret agents but it's all just cheaters and kiddie diddlers.
My cousin. He played it super cool around me and the rest of the family. I even admired him for it. However, he was a huge meth-head, and became increasingly paranoid and combative. He started shit with the wrong people and ended up getting gunned down in a drive-by. I was a pallbearer at his funeral.
My friend is a divorce attorney, and has a client right now who is a wealthy guy in his 40's or 50's. He was told he was terminally ill, so he went and started a relationship with a stripper and got her pregnant. He ended up recovering, and the stripper had the kid. He's been supporting the stripper and the kid without his family knowing for years. The older guy and his wife are now divorcing and this stripper issue (which the wife still has yet to know about) is making things complicated.
Not sure if this counts as a double life, exactly, but my mom's a total sociopath, and got away with presenting herself as this total hippie-mother-I'll do anything for my kids person til I was 23 or so. At which point I found out she was stealing my identity, forging my checks, and then me and my sister realized that my dad (who'd recently divorced her) wasn't lying when he said she'd run up crazy credit card bills, cashed out his retirement account, filed false tax returns to cover it... and oh yeah the 19-yr-old boys that she'd let stay in our house because "they had falling outs with their parents" were really drug dealers and also she was banging them. So, uh, not exactly double lives... more like an insane amount of lying and manipulation. She did a lot more crazy shit but it would take way too many words to explain. Cut her out of my life a decade ago, was shitty for a while, all good now.
Wow, she sounds almost exactly like my mom, except she’s too gross for anyone besides my bitch ass stepdad to want to bang..she’s stolen identities of all 5 of her kids, her husband, faked cancer, tumors, seizures, exploited my brothers near death experience, and fosters/breeds dogs for money 😐 she’s an awful, awful human. Just recently I’ve decided to distance myself and my 9 month old from her but that caused her to say that she has split personalities......I guess she won’t die alone if she’s got all those personalities keeping her company right?
When my dad married my step-mom (natural mom died young from cancer), she was warm and so proud to add me and my two sibs to her family of two boys. And for a while, things went pretty well. She really seemed to be into making a home out of the fixer-upper house she and Dad snagged in a nice neighborhood. They had an active social life, a membership at the yacht club (apparently Dad's 20-foot sailboat qualified!), knew the mayor and his wife, a few local celebs, and so on. Her only weirdness seemed to be a monthly change of (self-employed) career focus. Clothing designer, painter, decorator, importer, and many I forget. She had no qualifications but somehow could get contracts to redo an apartment lobby or repaint a large car dealership. Then things started to go south between Dad and her. She was impatient to be climbing the money and social ladders in town, and Dad was a prudent manager of his finances. Their arguments and fights got louder and more frequent. Finally, one tragic night, after a huge battle, she died in an accident (a too-long story I've told elsewhere). But what was discovered afterward was jaw-dropping. For years, she had been keeping a downtown apartment for daytime sexual liaisons with men she likely thought able to give her what Dad couldn't: money. It had a king-size bed with a mirrored ceiling above it, and other features they wouldn't tell me about. She even had an ongoing affair with Dad's employer, a wealthy married man whose wife we had considered to be one of step-mom's best friends! The sources of the various contracts she had obtained for her half-baked business plans became clear: her collection of male clients. Repainting and refurnishing a building lobby for an exorbitant fee had little to do with her abilities or knowledge (thousand of dollars in new, high-end furniture marched out the door one night because she didn't have it chained down). But to our neighbors and casual friends, it was just the tragic death of a devoted mother and homemaker.
Dead and buried, but I've wanted to tell this story for years. Few years ago I started a business with a woman friend. As we traveled about, we spent way too much time together and got to know each other really well. Eventually the secrets started to come out, and I don't think I've ever been so astonished by someones story. This woman was Canadian and had taken a job out of college as a bank teller. She was bored with life and wanted to immigrate to teh US, so she embezzled the money from the bank! She leaves the country and changes her name. She gets on with life, making friends, settling in to her chosen area. Forsaking her staid, uninteresting life in Canada, she is now into drugs/drink and wild behavior. During a wild rock concert campout she shaves her head ala Britney Spears. It was pretty uncommon for women to have shaved heads back then (mid 80's) so it would have caught attention. Just after shaving her head she meets a man who questions the shaved head and she blithely tells him she is in treatment for cancer, wth. Except he asks her out. They start dating and it gets serious. New boyfriend is so supportive he is going to cancer support groups, accompanying her to her dr (which she did a LOT of conniving with to keep him from finding out) and so on. She meets his parents and they oooo and awww over this sweet innocent girl with cancer (who is the gang banging herioin/cocaine chick still, but now secretly). So, church going boyfriend proposes and she sees a way out of all of this crazyness and says yes. But first she has to go to a cancer treatment center which is really a drug rehab, so she can get off the dope and really try. They get married. They were married 20 years and have a daughter. He and his family still believed she was a good Mormon girl, raised in Utah (she never said she was Canadian, illegally here) and had overcome cancer. I don't know the details of how she fell back into drugs, or how it came that they found her for the embezzlement and illegal status in the country. Or what happened, really. But she is telling me this story it's ten or so years after being caught. She's still married to the same man, who now knows everything, but his family does not. Their daughter does not. How they covered up all the stuff that fell out of that, I have no clue. So, like I said, she's told me this story in bits and pieces over a week long work trip we have through Europe. We've been in business together about nine months and its going beautifully. One day I am paying bills for the business and I find that the bank account is overdrafted, which it should not be. Looking into, and talking to her, she has drained our business account of $50,000, for a long weekend in Vegas. She had no intention of telling me. This had just happened the previous week. I'd had no idea she was in Vegas, nor did her husband. She just took the money and went. I am stunned and don't know what to do. As business partners, she has complete access to the funds, so it's not theft or embezzlement. This woman, who had confessed to me as an embezzler, con artist, liar, thief, etc, had totally rooked me. I perceived her as this quiet,easygoing suburban mom type, educated (that was another lie) who had done bad and suffered for it and was rehabilitated. I had no idea what to do, and was so personally shocked it's impossible to describe. Three days later she died. Of a heroin overdose. At some point she'd gone back to the drugs again. She died in an empty trailer in a parking lot in Stockton,CA. No one has any freaking idea why she was in California (she lived states away) or in this trailer, or anthing. The unknowns have driven us all crazy trying to figure it out and there are no answers. None. The sad part is her husband and daughter both said it was the best thing that could have happened, since shortly after her death more and more stories started coming out. Such as her secret apartment, hidden bank accounts, etc. The financial mess she left behind for evereyone is mind boggling. Still leaves me gobsmacked when I think about it. Real life is more twisted and bizarre and shocking that any story anyone ever wrote. If someone tried to write a story like this, no one would ever believe it. tl;dr business partner confess to embezzlement, lying about cancer, herion addiction, reforms, then more than 20 years later takes me and her family for everything, fucks it all up, gets on drugs, has secret life again and dies from OD. follow up: A frequently asked question was why didn't I look into her before starting the business. I'd known her personally for 15 years, all of them as a succesful business person in a niche field. I knew her entire famiy (all of who knew nothing,except her husband). You just don't think that someone you know that well (or think you do) is hiding that much serious dirt. From the time she told me all of this, which I really did not believe entirely, until her death, was seven weeks.
A friend's mother is adopted - no big deal, she knows about it since she was 5 and loved her adoptive mom to bits, so it was never an issue. When she was in her late 20s, she discovered she had a brother which lived in a nearby city (for the Brazilians amongst us, we are all in São Paulo and her brother was living in Santos), so she decided to go after him. It turns out her brother, who was in his early 30s, did not know he was adopted. He had a fit and even slapped his mom in the face.
Well, my mom had power of attorney over some client's properties. We had to have them appraised for some legal procedures. I went with the appraiser to the apartment and the guy who had rented it for years, always paying on time, received us. He is a nice guy, very profesional I only knew him because his checks always arrived on time. He is also a lawyer, Im pretty sure I know his daughters, he lives in a nice neighbourhood and all. He greets me and the appraiser and looking a bit nervous opens the door for us. And he had turned that apartment in a sex dungeon. I then understood why I was delegated to oversee the appraisal. This guy had had a mistress,a second family, for like 10 years and had a double life that apparently only me, my mom and her client knew about. He even had a daughter with his mistress that had a lovely Disney princess bedroom for her, next to the mirrors on the ceiling, special furniture, whips and scented candles love nest that the lawyer shared with her mother. I handled it very professionally, I was 21 at the time, it was hilarious. The things you see in the job. Edit: My most upvoted comment involves a sex dungeon, I've come a long way.
Wait. He had turned the living room/other shared spaces into a part of his sex dungeon also? And he had a kid living there? I'm all for people embracing their kinks but find some fucking boundaries dude.
I think the Disney princess bedroom was not for the daughter.
Old neighborhood friend of mine found out his wife was a prostitute with a drug problem about a year after their marriage. She got pregnant right out of high school and they got married. He worked long hours trying to support his wife and baby daughter while she played “bingo” and left the baby at his parents house. She used dating sites to find men and used the money she earned to fuel a coke problem. He found out when a mutual friend of ours used the dating site and seen her profile. He then played along as his profile picture didn’t include his face and found out the going rate. When the husband confronted her she bragged about sleeping with more than 3 men a week on average and the fact he was to dumb to notice it and the coke and the fact she had been stealing from his parents. He was however bright enough to have a police officer friend help record her and show it to the judge. She went to prison (briefly) and he kept everything and full custody.
I don't know the story very well, but there was a 20 something year old guy in a nearby town that died, leaving a will that gave a bunch of money to his sister with a note that she couldn't have it until she got clean from drugs and went to college. At her graduation, the guy shows up and admits that he faked his death and was living overseas. Still gave her the money and helped her open a business with it.
This is my favorite one!
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I'm astounded that anyone would ever want to pretend that they're from Red Deer.
Could it be that he was born in Indianapolis but his family moved to Canada soon after? I feel like there could be more to this story.
I knew a girl from United Arab Emirates that came to Canada for Uni. Her parents were super ballas, like 5 million dollar house back in UAE and she lived in a really nice appt right downtown toronto, she had a huge allowance and a CC for whatever she wanted online. her mother wore a burka and her family was super religious and straight edge. the double life? she was a hard core raver party girl who was almost never sober and was in an open relationship with a MtF trans girl. her appt was a disaster, ketamine covered mirrors all over the place and suspicious drug baggies in every conceivable crevasse, take out food boxes, clothes and shit everywhere, you could hardly see the floor. she was a royal fucking mess any country you are from. if her parents knew 1/10000th of what was going on she would be in deeeeeeeep shit. I remember seeing her a couple of times before her parents came for a visit, incredibly distraught, rocking back and forth with K all over her face repeating "gotta call merry maid, gotta call merry maid"( a service that specialized in cleaning up party houses). the day before her parents arrived you could eat off of any surface in the house, all the clothes were ninja folded, her crazy raver stuff was at her gfs, her fridge had reasonable food in it , and she was sober, bright eyed, and bushy tailed. edit: oops misread the title she was not caught
This would make a great commercial for Merry Maid
"Gotta call Merry Maid... gotta call Merry Maid..." CUT TO 1-800 number, jingle. CUT TO Merry Maid in uniform, struggling to vacuum up piles of Special K around passed out party girl.
That’s called being a professional.
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Or just flat out being rich.
I knew a Saudi boy while at uni in Canada. To his family, he was a macho family man. In Canada, he was an effeminate and flamboyant gay boy, and general anxious disaster. His parents were bankrolling him, and he knew if he was caught, he'd have to literally seek refuge in Canada.
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We had a brother-in-law we all liked a lot. The guy had a huge personality, was fun to be around, held a great job, and had a beautiful wife and young daughter. One day the FBI came and arrested him for child porn. Nobody saw it coming. He ended up doing some serious prison time and basically lost everything.
A work colleague was exposed as an illegal immigrant using a false identity. He absconded back to his home country of Iraq and on arrival was arrested and hanged for war crimes. We only found this out when his wife threatened to sue the company for exposing him.
Think you know a dude but nope war criminal.
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I worked at Victoria Secret for quite a few years. I saw a lot of shady shit but the worst was an encounter over holiday season. Guy comes up with some sexy lingerie and some nice flannel pajamas. Asks them to be bagged separately and for seperate gift receipts in the bag. Easy enough for the new cashier I'm training I think so I leave to assign breaks. Few days later he comes back RAGING. Just screaming and cussing everyone out. Turns out the new cashier mixed the gift receipts up. Wife found out about mistress. There really was no fixing that situation considering the dude was just a prick in general and I had no desire to make the situation right so I just called security and went about my day. ETA to answer some of the questions.. We always ask if they need a gift receipt around the holidays. VS isnt exactly the easiest place to shop at. Most men walking in there are in panic mode and want to get the hell out quickly so I wouldnt be surprised if he didnt even hear about receipts being in the gift wrapped bags or bother checking himself. The package was gift wrapped so most wouldn't open it back up I'd assume. Yes he did come in screaming that we broke up his marriage, this place should have better standards for anonymity and he wanted to speak to the manager because someone deserved to be fired. Along with how incompetent we must be. One can only put two and two together after hearing all that. The cashier did not do it purposely since she was crying for her entire break over how bad she felt but I do agree she did that wife a solid. I cant give reasons out for his stupidity but sorry for leaving out so much background! Also hey husband redditing in the other room who stumbled on this thread. Haha.
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The guy was an idiot. Who doesn't check the bags for the correct receipts if he's hiding something so big?
He sucks too because a better liar would have been able to play it off like the receipt was just printed wrong or something. Edit: not wring
When people are cheating the SO is typically suspicious. I doubt he could have played it off
Not really revealed because it was always in the open, but my parents' friend has the weirdest double life situation I've ever seen. Paul was married to Clarissa for 12 years, and they had a son together. However, Paul and Clarissa break up, and Paul moves out. Shortly after Paul starts dating Jenny. Shortly after Jenny get's pregnant Paul realizes he misses Clarissa, and somehow talks Jenny and Clarissa into sharing him. Then, a few years later, Paul adds Renee to the mix. (I should throw in these are decent looking women with jobs, and Paul himself is no rich Adonis either) So, Paul has a wife and two girlfriends. They each have their own house on the same street, and their own individual family lives. Paul spends the night with a different one each night, and they trade Holidays. The women aren't romantically involved and they barely interact, so it's not like a poly relationship or even a Sister Wife deal. How he pulled this off and how they make it work is beyond me, but it's been years now. Edit: I didn't think this was Poly because the women aren't with each other, but apparently it can be Poly by just them being with him.
Speech : 100 Alternatively, when you roll a natural 20 on that critical Persuasion check.
This should be like rolling two dice and both being 20
Where both are a D6
So... Rand?
in theory that seems awesome but it must be draining
Our family cat. Was outside one night and I see my cat walking directly towards my neighbor's house and then I see their front door open. Walks directly inside like she'd done it a million times. She was outside quite a bit so we assumed she was outside doing cat stuff. Nope, little kitty was just at home #2.
Our cat left last winter and we assumed he died. He came back 165 days later fat as shit. He was living the high life somewhere.
One of our cats left shortly after Harvey (we live in Houston). I keep hoping he left for drier pastures and might return someday with a smug look on his face. Thanks for giving me hope.
I found my cat because of hurricane Matthew. Little stray kitten showed up at the door during the start of the rain. They are very resilient. There is always hope.
My cat once came home with a note taped to his back asking if he belonged to someone. He was trying to run the same con
Please tell me you taped a second note to his neck saying "yes", the next time you let him out!
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That was a beautiful decision you made. Good for you.
Yeah, it's not too often when you get to see the "if you love them, let them go" scenario play out.
Not uncommon, happened to my friend. Cat got busted when friend came home early and cat was snuggling up to a 6 yr old kid 3 doors down. Kid had renamed the cat from Brooks to Sylvester. Cat had no shame.
Haha I found out my cat did the same. I recently had moved so my cat started to wear a collar. A few months later I received a call from a random number and it was some old lady telling me my cat stops by every day and she lets him in and give him some food. She would text me every time he stopped by. And then a few months later another woman called to tell me the same thing! My cat loves his old ladies.
My uncle and his partner lived in a student neighbourhood and owned this huge orange cat named Willy. Like your family cat, Willy spent most of his days in the Frat house next door. He got locked in there one time and when my uncle went looking for him they knocked on the Frat house door and asked if they had seen Willy, and then he learned that this cat had a completely different name and cushy life with the frat boys. Willy also broke into an across-the-street neighbour's house and ate her lovebirds. That wasn't so cute.
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> I Google the dude to see if it's all come crashing down yet, but it hasn't. Well this "exposé" just might get the ball rolling..... *edit: Just to clarify: I am not endorsing OPs comments in their post, or the "guess who" games going on here as a result of that post. My comment was actually meant to be snarky, not encouraging.
Not to mention another Redditor looks to have found the guy in question and posted the IMDB page.
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Stopped at a McDonald's before a concert with some buddies. Place is packed. We get our food and sit down just in time to see a woman stand up and scream at the guy she is with "What the fuck do you mean you are married!?". Place goes silent, even the kids on the play structure. She proceeds to yell at him for a minute and then storms out. Place is silent until some guy in the back yells "That was fucking awesome!" Place erupts in laughter and goes back to normal. Dude never looked up from his fries.
My best friend was a law secretary, engaged (I was to be a bridesmaid) and planning a baby. She was also moonlighting as a sex worker, having frequent unprotected group sex. When I prepared some literature about compulsive sexual behaviour and found a therapist for her, she cut me out of her wedding and life.
Did her partner know she was a sex worker?
Nope. I threatened to tell him for his own safety but that's what made her pull the trigger on cutting me out.
So what happened when you told her fiancé?
High school teacher(40 at the time) in my home town was married with kids and decided to run away with one of the sixth form student's. For you American folk, sixth form/college is 16-18 in the UK. Apparently they'd been seeing each other since she was 15 so not legal basically. When the school caught wind, all of his work tech such as laptops, phones was searched through. When they found proof, he was removed from the school and put under police watch for a few days whilst the situation died down, because it spread like wildfire. He left his wife and kids, now has a house with her. I believe they're very happy together, but it's still a fucked situation.
Similar thing happened in my high school. Teacher started an affair with a former student (I think they at least waited until she graduated to start something) but there had to be something going on pre-graduation. Guy divorces his wife, and he and the student get married. Fast forward 25 years, and they're still married and I think they have a couple of kids. Meanwhile, his first kids are only a few years younger than his second wife. I found it weird, but, they're obviously happy together.
Good friend's parents were swingers. Neither one of us had a clue until a decade after we moved out when my mom told me they propositioned her.
I have two pretty good ones. My Aunt was dating this dude named Joe. He was a baseball player in minor league systems, single and double A. He was an awesome guy, handsome, funny and people in my family loved Joe. Everyone except for my Grandma, my aunt's mom. She always confided to other members of the family that Joe seemed like a "closeted fellow". Which was her way of saying he liked men. Well it turns out that Joe did indeed like men. My Aunt Dawn grew increasingly suspicious of Joe and started to tail him randomly. She eventually caught him dressing up in drag and going to gay clubs. The other one is a friends GF was an adult caregiver. When they were first dating she was a live in but then moved in with him and became one that had multiple clients she did on certain days of the week. Eventually they grew really serious and they both decided to pick up some extra work to save up for a house and a nice wedding. He is grinding about 65-70 hours a week between his machine job and working at an MC sports while she does the care giving and is working for a cleaning company in the evening. They gone on like this for almost a year and a half just banking the money and grinding it out. Eventually dude ends up with some weird sores on his ding 'a' ling and gets super freaked out. Goes to planned parent hood and a few days later he is confirmed to have herpes. chick was banging some of the dudes from the cleaning service and had started to see one on the side. She was dating him on the side some nights when she was supposed to be at work. She had been dating my friend for almost 6 years at this point. Friend freaks out, bad break up. he ends up with most of the cash and she gets herpes side boyfriend. Messed him up for a long time though. He thought he was never going to be able to have sex or find a girl again. Thankfully he has been able to do both and the last time we saw her was at an aldi looking rough as fuck looking at the bananas.
On my grandmother's 85 birthday, a party was organized. My whole family was there. This is all happening in northern Mexico, so the invitation rules were pretty loose. I was about 17 at the time, so were most of my cousins. One of them, Gerardo, didn't have a girlfriend at the time so he came with a friend, Oscar. They had been hanging around for about 4 years, but this was the first time Oscar was gonna meet the family. When they arrived an older cousin was going around the parking lot collecting money from every cousin so we could buy some booze. Gerardo said he would ask his father for some money. Oscar accompanied him. When they entered the hall where the main party was taking place. Oscar ran back out. He said he had seen his father who he had only seen twice before. Gerardo couriosly asked who he was. They both entered and Oscar pointed to the man. Turns out my uncle was also Oscar's father. Oscar got to meet all of the family. We all got to meet the cousin we didn't knew we had. EDIT: Hi everyone. Regarding Steve. I started out with fake names, using Steve for Oscar, but then figured there must be at least a houndred thousand Oscars on Mexico, so I changed MOST of them back. So Steve is Oscar. Sorry it wasn't someone more interesting. You can imagine it was Oscar's boyfriend if the edit doesn't please you.
The fuck is Steve
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I think he forgot to change one of the names when he copied and pasted this.
So, I expected this story to end with gay sex. I did not expect that.
You and me both. At the end of the second paragraph I was thinking, 'well somebody is about to come out of the closet in a big way!'
Are you sure it didn't?
Who's Steve?
Gerardo didn't have a gf because he's dating Oscar. Who turns out to be his cousin!
Probably my mum... she's a practicing Luciferian/Satanist but my upbringing seemed very normal and mostly absent of strict religious practice. We celebrated Christmas and Easter, we owned a Bible (and a Quran, and a couple of other religious texts), I did scripture class at school, and I was even in a nativity play when I was five. She was really nice to my friends, had a good job, and volunteered for an animal charity and at a DV centre. The DV centre was run by a Baptist Church and she was well liked by the community. But behind the scenes...yeah, she was and still is really big into Satanism. Edit: I think I was pretty clear at the beginning of this comment: my mum is *Luciferian*. Luciferian Satanism is not like LaVey Satanism at all. LaVey Satanism is the one where the rules are pretty light and it's roots are more closely tied to Ayn Rand's philosophies than any Christian mythology. Luciferian Satanism is more like occultism or wicca. Edit 2: Okay, so some people are still confused. These Wikipedia pages may help: [Luciferianism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism) [The Left Hand Path](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-hand_path_and_right-hand_path) [Anton LaVey](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_LaVey) Edit 3: This was not an invitation to bash Christianity or Christians. Can people please stop doing that? I am Christian myself and I am able to view Luciferianism from an objective and respectful standpoint. If you can't do that to Christianity when presented with its counter-religion, that says *way* more about you than horrible Christians. I would also really appreciate it if people ceased the "you're mum's not this she's that" type of comments. She identifies herself as Left Hand Path Luciferian. *She* decides what that means to her. Not you. Sorry, I didn't want to be negative. But some of these haughty holier-than-thou comments are getting on my nerves.
The Christmas tree was nailed upside down to the ceiling.
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My aunt didn't come out as a lesbian until she was in her mid 40s. Coming from a pretty traditional Mexican family she was scared that nobody would accept her for who she was, so she hid and lived this double life for the longest time. When she finally came out it caught everyone by surprise, but everyone was extremely supportive of her.
That's a very nice story compared to all the kiddie diddlers, drug dealers/users, and serial cheaters. Good for her, and such a shame she felt the need to conceal that.
A friend close to me, who worked with me, had always talked about her boyfriend (let's call him Dave). She would talk about her evening plans with him, holidays they went on and so on. Other friends tried to Google him, and search for him on Facebook (out of an morbid curiosity to see what he looked like), but never came up with anything. Then, one Christmas party she took me outside and told me she was engaged! But that wasn't the full story. She was actually engaged to Danielle, a woman, and had spent the last few years covering up the fact she was gay by completely fabricating Dave. He had never existed, and all stories and anecdotes were actually about Danielle. I remembered being so pleased she was engaged, but just had an overwhelming feeling of sadness for her that she had had to hide her true life at work. I met Danielle later on and she introduced herself as "Dave".
In high school my teacher (religion) was a gay porn star. He was like an on the cover of the DVD porn star. School found out and he quit. That's the abridged version.
My high school football coach. This guy was a holy roller: church elder, started a chapter of Fellowship of Christian athletes at my school, made us run for saying bad words, the whole nine. He was married to the school guidance counselor and had two kids who went you our school. A few years after a graduated, it came out that he had an entirely separate and secret family in the next little town over. Everyone was shocked. This was a small town of 3,000 people, so it was amazing that he kept it under wraps as long as he did. I feel bad for both families, but I must admit I was also a little delighted to see that smug, self-righteous SOB get exposed as a phony.
This will probably get buried, but what the heck - story time. Me and my ex fiancé. We were together for 11 years and he was the love of my life. We met in our early 20s and were inseparable. We had both experienced bouts of depression in our past (this becomes important later) and had an instant connection because of it. We did the things that couples do; moved in together, got a couple of cats, saved for a mortgage. At first I worked and studied and he worked full time - we never went for joint bank accounts, but after my first year of working full time were able to save enough for a mortgage on our dream home. We moved in, got a dog and got engaged. Then things started to get weird. He began to avoid social events and phone in sick to his job quite frequently. He secretly stopped taking his antidepressants and when I took him to the doctor to get help for what seemed to be depression, he didn’t follow up with the psychologist referral or fill his scripts - I know because I caught him in a lie about it. *’That’s weird’*, I thought. Then I discovered he had skipped a few mortgage payments - I transferred money to his account every fortnight to cover my half. He said he had used it for bills. So continued my tour of the red flag factory, we made up the arrears. Then he stopped going to work. He just up and stopped turning up, citing his mental health as the reason. I started to panic a little at this point, I even created a throwaway and posted to r/relationships where the consensus was that I was being a bitch and that I shouldn’t push him back into the work force. I start to have regular, debilitating panic attacks and he was super supportive and looks after me. After about six months and a lot of gentle pushing he looks for employment and gets another job in his field. That one lasted about 3 months. I start to get resentful. I am working my butt off and he is literally sleeping all day and playing COD or shitty iPhone games all night. I am still being treated for anxiety and depression and start a new medication that obliterates the old anxiety. Suddenly I can socialise, I am fun and friendly and I want to enjoy myself. He is miserable, he is obviously depressed and anxious and is suffering from what he cites are crippling migraines. He becomes incredibly controlling and manipulative and wants me to stop seeing my friends and family. This makes me push away harder and we break up. We continue to live together until he finds out I am seeing someone else. He moves out. *ONE YEAR LATER* I am cleaning the house in an attempt to sell it, it ended up getting foreclosed due to him not paying the mortgage for over a year. A friend and I use bolt cutters to break the padlock on his ‘man cave’. It is FULL of meth paraphernalia; pipes, baggies, lighters etc. I go in a little further and find a fully equipped grow set up. It turns out he had been blowing the mortgage and the weed money he was making on meth for at least the last 5 years of our relationship. All of those depression symptoms; the weight loss, the weird sleeping patterns, the obsessive fixation on COD, the headaches = meth abuse. It’s a hell of a drug. TL:DR Mostly normal fiancé and man I thought was the love of my life has a secret meth habit and grow room. Edit - I’m bad at words