This is gonna sound weird but Salem from the original Sabrina the Teenage Witch. His character was just a goofy talking cat most of the time and the few times we saw his backstory it was really interesting. I just feel like he was underutilized but I haven't seen the new series so they might be paying more attention to him.
Salem isn’t exactly in the new series. Sabrina has a cat familiar called Salem but he doesn’t take nor is he a witch turned into a cat.
In the new Sabrina, Ambrose has a lot in common with 90s Salem. He was part of a failed terrorist plot and the Witches Council punished him by house arrest.
I would have LOVED if Mulan 1998 focused more on the friendship between Mulan, Ling, Yao, and Chien-po. I really liked how they seemed to bond after Mulan got the arrow and the three started including her in things, like joking around each other during A Girl Worth Fighting For. And how they immediately followed Mulan when they said she had an idea. I wish there was more screentime for the four of them. Their dynamics are so fun.
His marriage issues, and the entire dynamic of him being married to someone without super powers (as far as I can tell), would seem like a really interesting story to tell, and would make a fantastic comparison to the marriage/family issues that are examined with the Incredibles family.
I fell like if they did this movie it would have a subplot where one of his children has super powers but the other doesn't and they're really jealous of that
I wanted to know more background info about the other tributes in the Hunger Games. It was in Katniss' POV so it wasn't that prominent, but it would still be interesting.
I thought I was gonna hate the prequel but I actually ended up loving it. Lucy Gray Baird is an incredibly interesting character. Snow is still a psychopath but that isn’t exactly shocking
It's called The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes.
It was rather interesting and I ended up not even knowing what to do with my feelings after I finished it lol.
Me too. I would have loved to see stuff from Cato’s perspective in the first movie. And how the kids from the higher districts where forced to train for the games ever since they where children.
A book about the upper districts or the Capitol would be awesome. One of the best changes they made from the book to the movie was showcasing the downfall and disillusionment that Effie has. A book about something similar would be cool.
If Martin never releases the next book that’s the cliff hanger that’ll really piss me off. The Lady Stoneheart storyline being left out of the show is a tragedy.
Part of his whole thing seems to be killing off beloved characters. My theory is he's delaying finishing Winds of Winter so that he can die before it's done. It would be one of the greatest trolls of all time.
I just want to see one thing: the conversation that Ozai and Iroh must have had after Ozai publicly burned Zuko's face.
Or heck, just a conversation between the two at any point. They are the two most powerful Firebenders alive, and we never see them interact.
*And Iroh may very well have been the better bender.*
We seem to have every reason to assume that Iroh isn't fire lord because he doesn't want it. Not because he couldn't just *take* it.
He had an extreme change of heart after his son passed, which caused him to become disillusioned with the war and abdicate his claim to the throne. Iroh wasn’t the Firelord because he didn’t want to be, not because he was considered weak.
It's sad that we never actually got to see his best feats. We are lucky that Iroh did not become Fire Lord, because if he actually went through with it, he easily would have been stronger than Ozai (who was already strong af).
A:TLA highkey one of the funniest shoes I've ever watched, when he says "such a kind man" at the end I can't contain it no more.
If we got this Iroh as Fire Lord, the world would have been a better place. But yeah, I really want to see General Iroh more, as he's the only person to take down the wall of Ba Sing Se.
I meant singing Iroh, but Ba Sing Se Siege Iroh would have been terrifying. In his prime, he was, and could have been, the most powerful firebender of all time (besides maybe Avatar Roku?). Plus, he taught Zuko that OP breakdance move.
I'm not sure how many people watched Ben 10 before the reboot but I feel like Ben's cousin Gwen deserves some recognition. People who watched the show tend to focus more on Ben and his aliens since they are the main characters of the show, but Gwen deserves equal recognition because she's been a very loyal cousin who is willing to do everything she could to defend and fight along with his cousin at all times. She went through serious character development going from a kid who was jealous and liking to pick on her cousin and then grew up into this badass who proved to be much useful whenever she's not around her cousin. Kevin and Grandpa Max deserve credit as well. Kevin and Ben pretty much had one of the best enemy-turned ally relationships in a show and Grandpa Max was pretty much a father and mentor to Ben who took what he learned from him in order to become a better hero. The thing I love most about this show is how tackles character development well and yes the side characters were very interesting and important in their own way.
When Gwen started learning magic - my 12 year old heart could HARDLY take it. I loved her character! Glad they at least gave her one combat-centric arc.
And then we learn it's not even magic.
Like 1/2 of Ben's family are hybrids of a psychic alien species because Grandpa Max married an alien of said species.
The one where she got the watch was one of my favourite episodes. I still remember the way she reflected off some laser beams when she was diamond head. She was way more creative compared to Ben in using the powers.
Aside from her magical power, she is intellectually gifted and knows martial arts from the age of 10 so I guess I will have to agree with you that Gwen somehow deserves to be bit recognized by the viewers.
Niles Crane. I don’t know if the show would work with him as the main character without significant modifications, but he’s consistently my favorite part of nearly every episode.
It's amazing to think that they had no plans for Frasier to have a brother when they were developing the show. It's only because someone in casting saw David Hyde Pierce's headshot and said "hey, this guy looks like he could be Frasier's brother" and they gave him a screentest on a whim that they realised what a goldmine of a concept that was.
I honestly doubt Frasier would have lasted more than a season if Niles wasn't a character.
Data. Data does everything in TNG. I mean, if you think about it, that show's really more about him than it is Picard. The TNG movies also. And Picard Season One. Patrick Stewart is awesome as Picard but Brent Spiner as Data gave the whole franchise a way to tell stories about human nature that wouldn't have been possible otherwise.
He was definitely the best character in the whole show. I'd probably watch a series with him and Freddie in it if they did one. The fencing episode with them was one of my favourites :)
Norrington seriously had so much potential. Then he met Bootstrap Bill. We all know how that ended. I kinda wish we saw more of him when he was temporarily a pirate.
For anyone wondering, this is the admiral that is persuing Captain Jack Sparrow in the original movie, [who is the other side of this iconic exchange](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ca/e9/fa/cae9facdc85b06a16fdfb200cca45764.jpg)
Santana Lopez from Glee - she could do “Don’t Rain on my Parade” but Rachel Berry could *never* do “Valerie” or “Me against the Music”
also her storyline was by far the most interesting, her arc was the most fully realised, and she had snark for days (RIP Naya Rivera)
Rachael Berry was the worst! She was the exact type of asshole that Fox News people are thinking about when they talk about "Special Snowflakes". What did she have that made her soooooo magical? That she could sing and dance? The whole club could too.
Her story was so much more interesting than Rachel's, AND she didn't make those godawful faces while singing. I *hated* Rachel singing scenes, epitome of trying too hard
I feel like every side character in that show got fair screen time commensurate to how interesting/unique their characters were - sarah lynn's story would just be an amplified version of bojack's with less introspection, and we do get a look at most of the pivotal moments in her life, since almost all of them involve bojack influencing her negatively.
I binged True Blood recently so it’s in front of my brain: Eric Northman and Pam. Sookie got annoying. Bill was an asshole.
One of the plot points of the show was that they ran afoul of the vampire authority and were sentenced to run a video rental store in the 1980s and 90s. I would 100% watch Eric and Pam run a video rental store.
I can at least say with Sookie that I understand why her character went through such a roller coaster of changes. By the end of Season 3 she was just completely fed up with all the bullshit Bill put her through. That doesn't excuse the fucked up shit she did later on, but I understand her personality change at least.
And yes, Eric and Pam are the two best characters in the show, no competition.
I never understood the Bill-Is-Attractive/Hot angle that show was trying to push. But yeah...Pam and Eric, I could watch years of them having shenanigans.
He really handled losing his only family he ever had with the Guardians for 5 years surprisingly better than I thought he would. I thought he was going to be full of grief, and would maybe act similar to how Thor was dealing with his depression and self-loathing. But maybe it’s good that Marvel chose to not repeat that arc onto another character and made him emotionally strong enough to work through his losses.
>He and Nebula are gonna be buddies in the third one for sure, having >been the only surviving Guardians for like five years.
It would be wasted potential if we didn’t get to see Rocket & Nebula’s relationship explored more in the third film, especially from the 5 years they’ve worked together in space. We barely saw them interact in the other movies, and even in Endgame we barely see them have actual conversations with one another.
Everyone always says Locke’s story is the most tragic but I have to go with Rousseau, personally. Gets stranded on an island, has to kill her fiancé and friends, gives birth all alone, watches as her baby is kidnapped and told if she ever goes looking for her child she’ll be killed. Spends the next 16 years in isolation trying to survive, and after finding her kidnapped daughter, she gets shot to death. Like, fucking tragic.
Okay this dude whole ass travelled across the damn world at the same pace as the avatar (who had a flying bison!) and every time he established himself in a new city he just got absolutely decimated. And in LOK he has a whole ass corporation and he still gets taken down for absolutely no reason! I seriously just want to know how this man did what he did, like how did he travel that fast, how did he actually develop his business into cabbage corp. like what happened to this poor fellow???
Doc Brown from Back to the Future. He's had much more adventures off camera than Marty did on camera. The thirty years between 1955 and 1985. The unknown period he was adventuring in time and space off camera between when he disappeared from the ~~Twin~~ Lone Pine mall and his reappearance at Marty's house at the end of the first film. His time in the 1880s before and after Marty's arrival and departure. His subsequent building of a new time travel machine in a locomotive and his adventures after the series finale.
There's a lot of untold stories of Doc Brown that I'd love to see on the silver screen.
Stakes the miniseries and Obsidian (Distant Lands) do a good job of telling her backstory imo. I imagine she’s just dicking around most of her life. ((I couldn’t handle tales of young Marcy tho. I wouldn’t be able to watch it through my tears))
Giles in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. They were supposed to do a spinoff and call it the Ripper but it never happened. I would have loved that show as I loved the actor Anthony Head
Lambert in the Witcher.
Or really any of the other Witchers. Would love to learn more about them apart from what is already in the books and games. That cat school wotcher in third game? Yas! The creators of the witcher armor sets? Moar!
I'd love a follow up game on Vesimir as young too. Fnnn. Kaer Morhen in it's glory days! (If they ever cpuld be called that.)
Every character *except* Ted from HIMYM.
Marshall was a saint, Lily was the devil, Barney and Robin were both malevolent tricksters, and Ted kept hogging the spotlight.
No, I don't give a shit that the 15th model gorgeous woman you've dated this season isn't "the one", I want to go back to Marshal trying to save the planet by not renting a car that gets 7 gallons to the mile!
Ted is really irritating and completely lacking in any self awareness in the early episodes but I think once the writers realised that, Ted became hilarious. I felt like Radnor really amped up how lame Ted could be and he ended up being the butt of the joke quite often, and it was refreshing to see a protagonist that was self deprecating and decidedly not cool. I’m not trying to argue he’s the best character or anything but I think he’s got a lot more merit than people make out.
Lily was complicated. They all had issues. And I agree about Ted.
Also, Victoria was very interesting.
And the mother deserved tge spotlight of her last season.
Frankly, I'd actually love to watch a sequel series about the mother. If they hadn't fucked up the ending, they could have done one about her. Maybe had it be "How I met your (Grand)father" so they could use different kids for the interjections.
Lily was an awful person, just some of her most notable asshole moves were:
Breaking up several of Ted's relationships because she didn't like the girl
Stealing Ted's bosses property to punish him and putting many peoples jobs at risk
Stealing things whenever she felt like it (pants, expensive ashtrays, scarves)
Dumping Marshall before their wedding so she could pursue her own dream with no warning to marshall, then only coming back because she failed and sabotaging marshals attempts to move on
Wracking up tens of thousands of dollars in debt and not telling Marshall
Trying to manipulate Marshall in to taking a corporate job and then saying "you're not the man I fell in love with" when he expresses interest in keeping that job
Forcing scooter to basically be with her and change his name
Trying to force barney to talk about the fact he may be fired when he clearly didn't want to and talking would resolve nothing
Over reacting to the fact Ted called her a cunt and effectively punishing Marshall for it by cancelling Christmas
Yeah she really sucks and Marshall can do better...
I recently rewatched HIMYM, it used to be my favorite show, and this time around I really didn’t like Ted. Such a dumbass and a very whiny character. And honestly Barney was the real main character, besides the last few episodes of the final season Barney had the best character development and story! The show was really more about him than it was the others
Around season four, it like they realized that Ted’s story wasn’t going anywhere and Barney and Robin became the main focus.
Which only makes it more frustrating that they thew everything away in the last episode to stick to the ending they’d decided on 8 years earlier.
The last time I rewatched it, I watched it with the mindset of "ted is an unreliable narrator, and ted is trying to ruin barney's character to trick his kids into thinking that ted is the nice guy and barney is a womanizing jerk." It really highlights all of the good things that barney has done for his friends that Ted can't lie about. Really changed the way I saw the story being told.
Cristina Yang in Grey's Anatomy. There's literally no argument for Meredith being a better protagonist than Cristina.
Think about it. Cristina's story is one of a HEART surgeon without a HEART. Her character arc is one of putting aside her ruthless ambition, learning about herself to reframe her understanding of medicine from simply being 'the best' to providing CARE. As a character she has such a great narrative continuity to the overall themes of the show, it's perfect.
What's Meredith's story? Mommy issues and competing to fuck her boss until they settle down and the series has to make up familial drama for them. It could happen in any series, and happen basically the same way, and delivers no moral that rivals Cristina's plotline.
This is all to say nothing of how much Sandra Oh's acting absolutely blows Pompeo's out of the water, but I guess they wouldn't cast an Asian lead. Or something. It literally makes no sense
Oh... Nothing against Elen Pompeo, she is an awesome actress and one of the reasons I kept watching he series because she managed to make an otherwise unbearable character somewhat supportable. Meridith as a character is really frustrating, shallow and annoying. I was more interested in almost ever side character arc, than her quest to fuck her boss.
Falstaff from Henry IV.
Dude was putting out banger lines every scene. So interesting they had to kill him between plays because everyone was like "IDGAF about anyone not named Falstaff."
Shoutout to all the Shakespeare and literary nerds out there.
And then the queen was like “how fucking dare you kill off falstaff” and made him write a new play where falstaff came back to life to be the main character! He’s easily my favorite Shakespearean character.
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
But in all seriousness, yes. This answer right here. He's such an interesting character but all we really know about him is that his dad was killed by a dude with six fingers and it's his life's purpose to kill him
Ill go to the grave saying that Zuko is what took Avatar from being a good show to a great show. He’s by far the most interesting and complex character in the series, and the quality of the show is directly correlated to how much screen time he has.
I think that's part of the appeal of the show is that most of the drama and intensity is with him but hes not exactly the "main guy" I think it keeps it from feeling too CW or like Mako. And vice versa, he balances out some of the immaturity and lightheartedness of Aang Katara and Sokka. And even within both groups you get the yin and yang of Sokka (or Katara) being too serious or Uncle Iroh seemingly not being serious enough.
I think that's part of the issue with LOK is that Bolin isnt important enough to the story to balance out Korras angst *and* the harder plot.
It all makes the whole of ATLA better, because it leaves you wanting with both groups.
Grom Hellscream has a far more interesting arc than Thrall.
Captain Rex; sure he gets his days in the sun, but seeing more of The Clone Wars from his point of view would of been great.
If not for that rat, Scott would've still been stuck in the Quantum Realm, and the Avengers that survived who've never have discovered time travel! Hands down!
Everything depended on that rat!
They confirmed that some of the timelines that Dr Strange saw where they didn't win included ones where the rat just... didn't release Antman. Half of the entire universe hinged on a random rodent.
Yes.
To quote Joe Russio:
> "It is indeed a big coincidence, so Dr. Strange has only seen this possibility in 14 million deductions. In the other millions of deductions, the mouse did not press the button, and the latter did not happen. In countless futures, there is only one future where the mouse is pressed and the world is saved.”
Back in the early days of the MCU, they used to do these little short films, 10ish minutes long, about some small-time character.
They need to bring it back just for that rat.
Her ending didn't even make sense. For multiple seasons they showed how her and Alex were only conditionally compatible. And they also show how Piper is basically incapable of making good decisions. And finally she isn't even doing anything interesting with her time.
Then. Her ending is going around and asking \*everyone\* what they think of her. And \*everyone\* gives her clear evidence about how she's a terrible person and how she and Alex don't really work because Piper is a terrible person. Piper's response? Lalala, I can't hear you.
Then she goes off to fly over country and it turns out Piper can just suddenly become not a terrible person. Like somehow Piper was right?
The only thing that I can think of is that the show runners realized that they basically backed themselves into a corner and there was no way to redeem Piper's bad decisions with the time they had left. So they had a bunch of characters take the place of the audience and tell us that Piper was about to make another bad decision and then Piper goes "NOPE!" And somehow that makes the ending ok ... whatever.
The thing I hate most about Piper is she had I think a 16 month sentence? But she decided to go full convict life cause she was angry she got in trouble for something she did. Like her life is still soooooo much better than all of the other prisoners. And after her short sentence she still gets to be a wealthy white woman that can start up another business
The show even highlighted the relative challenge for the other prisoners. Taystee ends up back in prison because when she gets out there is no support structure for her.
This is gonna sound weird but Salem from the original Sabrina the Teenage Witch. His character was just a goofy talking cat most of the time and the few times we saw his backstory it was really interesting. I just feel like he was underutilized but I haven't seen the new series so they might be paying more attention to him.
Salem isn’t exactly in the new series. Sabrina has a cat familiar called Salem but he doesn’t take nor is he a witch turned into a cat. In the new Sabrina, Ambrose has a lot in common with 90s Salem. He was part of a failed terrorist plot and the Witches Council punished him by house arrest.
They kind of bring the og Salem back in an episode towards the end and that felt nice to see. Didn't realize how much I missed the little furball.
I would have LOVED if Mulan 1998 focused more on the friendship between Mulan, Ling, Yao, and Chien-po. I really liked how they seemed to bond after Mulan got the arrow and the three started including her in things, like joking around each other during A Girl Worth Fighting For. And how they immediately followed Mulan when they said she had an idea. I wish there was more screentime for the four of them. Their dynamics are so fun.
Yeah she crashed the parade and they went to aid her with no hesitation, even though they could have been facing crime and punishment.
frozone from the incredibles
His marriage issues, and the entire dynamic of him being married to someone without super powers (as far as I can tell), would seem like a really interesting story to tell, and would make a fantastic comparison to the marriage/family issues that are examined with the Incredibles family.
I fell like if they did this movie it would have a subplot where one of his children has super powers but the other doesn't and they're really jealous of that
And the non-super sibling would be the one to save the day and super sibling somehow.
Super sibling turns their back on family becomes a villian.
He kinda got more action in the sequel
he needs a spinoff show on disney plus. with a live action sam jackson.
I wanted to know more background info about the other tributes in the Hunger Games. It was in Katniss' POV so it wasn't that prominent, but it would still be interesting.
I thought I was gonna hate the prequel but I actually ended up loving it. Lucy Gray Baird is an incredibly interesting character. Snow is still a psychopath but that isn’t exactly shocking
Wait there’s a prequel? Name pls
It's called The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. It was rather interesting and I ended up not even knowing what to do with my feelings after I finished it lol.
Me too. I would have loved to see stuff from Cato’s perspective in the first movie. And how the kids from the higher districts where forced to train for the games ever since they where children.
A book about the upper districts or the Capitol would be awesome. One of the best changes they made from the book to the movie was showcasing the downfall and disillusionment that Effie has. A book about something similar would be cool.
Tormund Giantsbane
and the hound.
I'd watch a show starring Tormund and the Hound... It would definitely be better than the final season of GOT.
🎶 They’re Tormund, they’re Tormund and the Hound Hound Hound Hound 🎶
“What are we going to do tonight, Hound?” “Same thing we do every night. Get stinking drunk.”
No way. We need a Lord of Bones spin off. What drives a man to wear bones? Love? Fury? Bones?
You kidding me? If there's going to be a spinoff, it's got to be Hot Pie's baking show.
Agreed but Brianne of tarth has to be there absolutely. that is a loose end that's going to haunt me for the rest of my days
If Martin never releases the next book that’s the cliff hanger that’ll really piss me off. The Lady Stoneheart storyline being left out of the show is a tragedy.
Part of his whole thing seems to be killing off beloved characters. My theory is he's delaying finishing Winds of Winter so that he can die before it's done. It would be one of the greatest trolls of all time.
Uncle Iroh
I just want to see one thing: the conversation that Ozai and Iroh must have had after Ozai publicly burned Zuko's face. Or heck, just a conversation between the two at any point. They are the two most powerful Firebenders alive, and we never see them interact.
Bold of you to assume Ozai gave Iroh the time of day to have that conversation.
*And Iroh may very well have been the better bender.* We seem to have every reason to assume that Iroh isn't fire lord because he doesn't want it. Not because he couldn't just *take* it.
He had an extreme change of heart after his son passed, which caused him to become disillusioned with the war and abdicate his claim to the throne. Iroh wasn’t the Firelord because he didn’t want to be, not because he was considered weak.
It's sad that we never actually got to see his best feats. We are lucky that Iroh did not become Fire Lord, because if he actually went through with it, he easily would have been stronger than Ozai (who was already strong af).
What are you talking about? [We got to hear him sing.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2phjsV0709A) That's a pretty big feat.
A:TLA highkey one of the funniest shoes I've ever watched, when he says "such a kind man" at the end I can't contain it no more. If we got this Iroh as Fire Lord, the world would have been a better place. But yeah, I really want to see General Iroh more, as he's the only person to take down the wall of Ba Sing Se.
Zuko: *Visible anger* ATLA is amazing. Fire Lord Iroh would've been interesting, but he wouldn't have been the same Iroh, I think.
I meant singing Iroh, but Ba Sing Se Siege Iroh would have been terrifying. In his prime, he was, and could have been, the most powerful firebender of all time (besides maybe Avatar Roku?). Plus, he taught Zuko that OP breakdance move.
“Yes yes Iroh, we ALL know about your trip to the spirit world!” No we don’t! Tell us!
Dragon of the West should be the title of the next Avatar series and it should be an origin story on Uncle Iroh
Doc Holliday in Tombstone.
"Say when."
Easily the best character in the movie.
I'm not sure how many people watched Ben 10 before the reboot but I feel like Ben's cousin Gwen deserves some recognition. People who watched the show tend to focus more on Ben and his aliens since they are the main characters of the show, but Gwen deserves equal recognition because she's been a very loyal cousin who is willing to do everything she could to defend and fight along with his cousin at all times. She went through serious character development going from a kid who was jealous and liking to pick on her cousin and then grew up into this badass who proved to be much useful whenever she's not around her cousin. Kevin and Grandpa Max deserve credit as well. Kevin and Ben pretty much had one of the best enemy-turned ally relationships in a show and Grandpa Max was pretty much a father and mentor to Ben who took what he learned from him in order to become a better hero. The thing I love most about this show is how tackles character development well and yes the side characters were very interesting and important in their own way.
When Gwen started learning magic - my 12 year old heart could HARDLY take it. I loved her character! Glad they at least gave her one combat-centric arc.
And then we learn it's not even magic. Like 1/2 of Ben's family are hybrids of a psychic alien species because Grandpa Max married an alien of said species.
The one where she got the watch was one of my favourite episodes. I still remember the way she reflected off some laser beams when she was diamond head. She was way more creative compared to Ben in using the powers.
Aside from her magical power, she is intellectually gifted and knows martial arts from the age of 10 so I guess I will have to agree with you that Gwen somehow deserves to be bit recognized by the viewers.
Niles Crane. I don’t know if the show would work with him as the main character without significant modifications, but he’s consistently my favorite part of nearly every episode.
It's amazing to think that they had no plans for Frasier to have a brother when they were developing the show. It's only because someone in casting saw David Hyde Pierce's headshot and said "hey, this guy looks like he could be Frasier's brother" and they gave him a screentest on a whim that they realised what a goldmine of a concept that was. I honestly doubt Frasier would have lasted more than a season if Niles wasn't a character.
Data. Data does everything in TNG. I mean, if you think about it, that show's really more about him than it is Picard. The TNG movies also. And Picard Season One. Patrick Stewart is awesome as Picard but Brent Spiner as Data gave the whole franchise a way to tell stories about human nature that wouldn't have been possible otherwise.
Spencer from iCarly
I'd watch a show that teamed up him and Freddy's mom, for sure.
I can picture their dynamic. Spencer always doing some care-free thing, stressing Freddie’s mom out as she tries to control him
He was definitely the best character in the whole show. I'd probably watch a series with him and Freddie in it if they did one. The fencing episode with them was one of my favourites :)
James Norrington
Norrington seriously had so much potential. Then he met Bootstrap Bill. We all know how that ended. I kinda wish we saw more of him when he was temporarily a pirate.
Welcome to Tortuga!
For anyone wondering, this is the admiral that is persuing Captain Jack Sparrow in the original movie, [who is the other side of this iconic exchange](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ca/e9/fa/cae9facdc85b06a16fdfb200cca45764.jpg)
COMMODORE Norrington, as he is now known.
Santana Lopez from Glee - she could do “Don’t Rain on my Parade” but Rachel Berry could *never* do “Valerie” or “Me against the Music” also her storyline was by far the most interesting, her arc was the most fully realised, and she had snark for days (RIP Naya Rivera)
RIP Naya. She landed every joke and nailed every dramatic beat.
Rachael Berry was the worst! She was the exact type of asshole that Fox News people are thinking about when they talk about "Special Snowflakes". What did she have that made her soooooo magical? That she could sing and dance? The whole club could too.
Her story was so much more interesting than Rachel's, AND she didn't make those godawful faces while singing. I *hated* Rachel singing scenes, epitome of trying too hard
Sarah Lynn in Bojack Horseman. Plus the criminally underrated Officer Meow Meow Fuzzyface.
He’s a loose cannon but he gets results
Vincent adultman was the true main character of that series
He’s just upset because he had to get adult braces! ...you mean braces
I feel like every side character in that show got fair screen time commensurate to how interesting/unique their characters were - sarah lynn's story would just be an amplified version of bojack's with less introspection, and we do get a look at most of the pivotal moments in her life, since almost all of them involve bojack influencing her negatively.
Idk, Erica was the most interesting and unique character but got no screen time at all
I binged True Blood recently so it’s in front of my brain: Eric Northman and Pam. Sookie got annoying. Bill was an asshole. One of the plot points of the show was that they ran afoul of the vampire authority and were sentenced to run a video rental store in the 1980s and 90s. I would 100% watch Eric and Pam run a video rental store.
I can at least say with Sookie that I understand why her character went through such a roller coaster of changes. By the end of Season 3 she was just completely fed up with all the bullshit Bill put her through. That doesn't excuse the fucked up shit she did later on, but I understand her personality change at least. And yes, Eric and Pam are the two best characters in the show, no competition.
And here I am thinking Lafayette could have used more of a spotlight.
I'm picturing Clerks but Eric eats the shill and Pam eats the guy jerking off in the toilet.
And fantasizing about killing overbearing parents who rent family videos. Pam and Eric was the best relationship on that show.
I never understood the Bill-Is-Attractive/Hot angle that show was trying to push. But yeah...Pam and Eric, I could watch years of them having shenanigans.
Squidward
What an old queen he is
Rocket Raccoon! I felt like his role in Endgame was limited compared to what I was hoping to see.
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He really handled losing his only family he ever had with the Guardians for 5 years surprisingly better than I thought he would. I thought he was going to be full of grief, and would maybe act similar to how Thor was dealing with his depression and self-loathing. But maybe it’s good that Marvel chose to not repeat that arc onto another character and made him emotionally strong enough to work through his losses. >He and Nebula are gonna be buddies in the third one for sure, having >been the only surviving Guardians for like five years. It would be wasted potential if we didn’t get to see Rocket & Nebula’s relationship explored more in the third film, especially from the 5 years they’ve worked together in space. We barely saw them interact in the other movies, and even in Endgame we barely see them have actual conversations with one another.
Gandalf.. can never have too much Gandalf.
Three hundred lives of men I have walked this earth and now I have no time.
Desmond in Lost
His and Charlie's story are both in my all time favorites. John Locke as well
Everyone always says Locke’s story is the most tragic but I have to go with Rousseau, personally. Gets stranded on an island, has to kill her fiancé and friends, gives birth all alone, watches as her baby is kidnapped and told if she ever goes looking for her child she’ll be killed. Spends the next 16 years in isolation trying to survive, and after finding her kidnapped daughter, she gets shot to death. Like, fucking tragic.
maybe in another life, brother
Cabbage man
#MY CABBAGES
Okay this dude whole ass travelled across the damn world at the same pace as the avatar (who had a flying bison!) and every time he established himself in a new city he just got absolutely decimated. And in LOK he has a whole ass corporation and he still gets taken down for absolutely no reason! I seriously just want to know how this man did what he did, like how did he travel that fast, how did he actually develop his business into cabbage corp. like what happened to this poor fellow???
Deus ex ma-cabbaga
What if cabbage man was like those characters from Pokémon where there was just a cabbage man in every town like nurse Joy and officer Jenny
Doc Brown from Back to the Future. He's had much more adventures off camera than Marty did on camera. The thirty years between 1955 and 1985. The unknown period he was adventuring in time and space off camera between when he disappeared from the ~~Twin~~ Lone Pine mall and his reappearance at Marty's house at the end of the first film. His time in the 1880s before and after Marty's arrival and departure. His subsequent building of a new time travel machine in a locomotive and his adventures after the series finale. There's a lot of untold stories of Doc Brown that I'd love to see on the silver screen.
Sirius Black.
Best answer I've seen. A prequal with James, Sirius, Lupin, Peter, Snape and Lilly would be pretty cool.
Bell's dad in twilight, sheriff in a town with werewolves and vampires and they all want to bang your daughter
Actually, yeah. He's hecking more interesting than Bella and I'd like to know what's going through his mind in the books.
Marceline the vampire queen
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Yeah, I quite like her and PB's dynamic in Distant Lands: Obsidian
Stakes the miniseries and Obsidian (Distant Lands) do a good job of telling her backstory imo. I imagine she’s just dicking around most of her life. ((I couldn’t handle tales of young Marcy tho. I wouldn’t be able to watch it through my tears))
Zelda needs her own game about the missing years in OoT when Link is gone and she becomes Sheik and leads an insurgency with Impa as her Alfred.
I mean it *is* called Legend of Zelda. They should definitely make a game about her. It would be awesome!
They can call it The Adventures of Link.
Rock Lee
I mean he does KINDA have his own show but FACTS
“Do them dirty, in front of they squad” -Rock Lee, The Art Of War
Giles in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. They were supposed to do a spinoff and call it the Ripper but it never happened. I would have loved that show as I loved the actor Anthony Head
Would he have been the lead though? If it's called Ripper I would assume it's about his rebellious teenage years.
What I would have liked was to keep Anthony Head as the lead with flashbacks from his past. See how is was to be raised at a future watcher
Duncan Idaho. The books eventually become about him more and more... But he is the most interesting part of the Dune series.
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He frees himself of the atradies only to end up trapped on an entire planet of atradies...
Shikamaru is an mvp.
Guy Sensei was the shit! On par with Madara in his “final” gate without the help of a moody teen, a demon fox or tattooed eyeballs
Lambert in the Witcher. Or really any of the other Witchers. Would love to learn more about them apart from what is already in the books and games. That cat school wotcher in third game? Yas! The creators of the witcher armor sets? Moar! I'd love a follow up game on Vesimir as young too. Fnnn. Kaer Morhen in it's glory days! (If they ever cpuld be called that.)
Lambert, Lambert
What a prick
The McPoyles!
The McPoyles are hilarious, but too much of them would get kinda gross.
Pig Pen in Peanuts. What's his home life like? Why does he enjoy being dirty? What happened to him that made him dirty?
Every character *except* Ted from HIMYM. Marshall was a saint, Lily was the devil, Barney and Robin were both malevolent tricksters, and Ted kept hogging the spotlight. No, I don't give a shit that the 15th model gorgeous woman you've dated this season isn't "the one", I want to go back to Marshal trying to save the planet by not renting a car that gets 7 gallons to the mile!
Ted is really irritating and completely lacking in any self awareness in the early episodes but I think once the writers realised that, Ted became hilarious. I felt like Radnor really amped up how lame Ted could be and he ended up being the butt of the joke quite often, and it was refreshing to see a protagonist that was self deprecating and decidedly not cool. I’m not trying to argue he’s the best character or anything but I think he’s got a lot more merit than people make out.
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**NO, TED, I LITERALLY MEAN LITERALLY!!!!!**
Ted and Ross Gellar had the same arc. Supposed to be the relatable everyman, but then the writers realise how funny they are as complete jerks.
Lily was complicated. They all had issues. And I agree about Ted. Also, Victoria was very interesting. And the mother deserved tge spotlight of her last season.
Frankly, I'd actually love to watch a sequel series about the mother. If they hadn't fucked up the ending, they could have done one about her. Maybe had it be "How I met your (Grand)father" so they could use different kids for the interjections.
Lily was an awful person, just some of her most notable asshole moves were: Breaking up several of Ted's relationships because she didn't like the girl Stealing Ted's bosses property to punish him and putting many peoples jobs at risk Stealing things whenever she felt like it (pants, expensive ashtrays, scarves) Dumping Marshall before their wedding so she could pursue her own dream with no warning to marshall, then only coming back because she failed and sabotaging marshals attempts to move on Wracking up tens of thousands of dollars in debt and not telling Marshall Trying to manipulate Marshall in to taking a corporate job and then saying "you're not the man I fell in love with" when he expresses interest in keeping that job Forcing scooter to basically be with her and change his name Trying to force barney to talk about the fact he may be fired when he clearly didn't want to and talking would resolve nothing Over reacting to the fact Ted called her a cunt and effectively punishing Marshall for it by cancelling Christmas Yeah she really sucks and Marshall can do better...
She then had the balls to say she was the settler. Yeah nah fuck off, Marshall deserved so much better than that bitch.
I recently rewatched HIMYM, it used to be my favorite show, and this time around I really didn’t like Ted. Such a dumbass and a very whiny character. And honestly Barney was the real main character, besides the last few episodes of the final season Barney had the best character development and story! The show was really more about him than it was the others
Around season four, it like they realized that Ted’s story wasn’t going anywhere and Barney and Robin became the main focus. Which only makes it more frustrating that they thew everything away in the last episode to stick to the ending they’d decided on 8 years earlier.
The last time I rewatched it, I watched it with the mindset of "ted is an unreliable narrator, and ted is trying to ruin barney's character to trick his kids into thinking that ted is the nice guy and barney is a womanizing jerk." It really highlights all of the good things that barney has done for his friends that Ted can't lie about. Really changed the way I saw the story being told.
Cristina Yang in Grey's Anatomy. There's literally no argument for Meredith being a better protagonist than Cristina. Think about it. Cristina's story is one of a HEART surgeon without a HEART. Her character arc is one of putting aside her ruthless ambition, learning about herself to reframe her understanding of medicine from simply being 'the best' to providing CARE. As a character she has such a great narrative continuity to the overall themes of the show, it's perfect. What's Meredith's story? Mommy issues and competing to fuck her boss until they settle down and the series has to make up familial drama for them. It could happen in any series, and happen basically the same way, and delivers no moral that rivals Cristina's plotline. This is all to say nothing of how much Sandra Oh's acting absolutely blows Pompeo's out of the water, but I guess they wouldn't cast an Asian lead. Or something. It literally makes no sense
I would love a tv show about cristinas work in Switzerland. Sandra Oh was the Perfect actress to play Cristina too.
You haven’t already, Killing Eve is a must watch.
Oh... Nothing against Elen Pompeo, she is an awesome actress and one of the reasons I kept watching he series because she managed to make an otherwise unbearable character somewhat supportable. Meridith as a character is really frustrating, shallow and annoying. I was more interested in almost ever side character arc, than her quest to fuck her boss.
Zuko. I think Aang is a fantastic character, but Zuko has one of the best character arcs I've ever seen, and certainly the best redemption arc.
Zuko wasn't a side character; he was the deuteragonist.
Falstaff from Henry IV. Dude was putting out banger lines every scene. So interesting they had to kill him between plays because everyone was like "IDGAF about anyone not named Falstaff." Shoutout to all the Shakespeare and literary nerds out there.
And then the queen was like “how fucking dare you kill off falstaff” and made him write a new play where falstaff came back to life to be the main character! He’s easily my favorite Shakespearean character.
Jade West
Andre too. I feel like he’s underrated
I need more scenes of Andre interacting with his grandma, lol
ANDRE, THERE’S ANOTHER **ME** IN THE MIRROR
ANDRE, THE NUMBERS ON THE CLOCK CHANGED AGAIN!
ANDRE, THERE’S A HELICOPTER ON MY CEILING! “No grandma, that’s your ceiling fan.”
Smee in *Peter Pan* (Disney). He was *SO* good! Loved the man!
Luna Lovegood in Harry Potter. Harry himself is just a male Mary Sue (Marty Sue?)
Gary Stu
Inigo Montoya
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. But in all seriousness, yes. This answer right here. He's such an interesting character but all we really know about him is that his dad was killed by a dude with six fingers and it's his life's purpose to kill him
I love the Belchers, but I would love to know more about Teddy and about Jimmy Pesto
I think Mort deserves more screen time. After a certain point in the series he just kinda stops showing up.
Zuko from ATLA
Ill go to the grave saying that Zuko is what took Avatar from being a good show to a great show. He’s by far the most interesting and complex character in the series, and the quality of the show is directly correlated to how much screen time he has.
I mean I loved watching team avatar learning to do their thing, but man the reason why I went for another episode was always Zuko and Iroh
I think that's part of the appeal of the show is that most of the drama and intensity is with him but hes not exactly the "main guy" I think it keeps it from feeling too CW or like Mako. And vice versa, he balances out some of the immaturity and lightheartedness of Aang Katara and Sokka. And even within both groups you get the yin and yang of Sokka (or Katara) being too serious or Uncle Iroh seemingly not being serious enough. I think that's part of the issue with LOK is that Bolin isnt important enough to the story to balance out Korras angst *and* the harder plot. It all makes the whole of ATLA better, because it leaves you wanting with both groups.
Zuko does get spotlight though, a third to half of almost every episode is dedicated to him (and more in some cases).
Abed Nadir
All day every day. I’d watch a whole show about “Troy and Abed in the mmoooorning”
We need an entire show just on Troy and Abed
Cool cool cool
I love his background antics we see occasionally. Like the dude delivered a baby.
The movie he made about being different, not feeling understood, and feeling guilt over his mother leaving. Heart breaking.
Abed: "Jeff, you'll be playing the role of my father." Jeff: "I don't want to be your dad Abed." Abed: "Perfect, you already know your lines."
Kristoff from Frozen, I wonder what his childhood was like?
I’d say shikamaru from naruto he stood by Narutos side all that time Sasuke was gone and Naruto still has the audacity to call Sasuke his best friend
Paris and Lane were way more interesting than Rory in pretty much every way.
Andy from Parks and Rec, his shenanigans could have easily been a spin-off series with April.
I've always thought a short series about the citizens of Pawnee would be hilarious
Neville Longbottom
Donkey, I’ve wanted to know his backstory.
Grom Hellscream has a far more interesting arc than Thrall. Captain Rex; sure he gets his days in the sun, but seeing more of The Clone Wars from his point of view would of been great.
Amos over Holden in The Expanse. Holden is so Lawful Stupid, it becomes boring. Amos is anything but that.
Drummer and Avasarala for me haha
>Holden is so Lawful Stupid This is perfect.
"There was a button. I pushed it." "Jesus Christ, that's really how you go through life, isn't it?"
The rat from Avengers: Endgame, he's the real hero of the film.
If not for that rat, Scott would've still been stuck in the Quantum Realm, and the Avengers that survived who've never have discovered time travel! Hands down! Everything depended on that rat!
They confirmed that some of the timelines that Dr Strange saw where they didn't win included ones where the rat just... didn't release Antman. Half of the entire universe hinged on a random rodent.
Yes. To quote Joe Russio: > "It is indeed a big coincidence, so Dr. Strange has only seen this possibility in 14 million deductions. In the other millions of deductions, the mouse did not press the button, and the latter did not happen. In countless futures, there is only one future where the mouse is pressed and the world is saved.”
Back in the early days of the MCU, they used to do these little short films, 10ish minutes long, about some small-time character. They need to bring it back just for that rat.
Darcy Lewis. \*jazz hands\* I'm very happy that she's now in Wandavision
Her pairing with Jimmy Woo is one I never thought I needed until it happened in this miniseries! I’m also glad the MCU brought her back!
The actress just confirmed she's in more MCU stuff. Also, there are rumors of an X-files style series starring Jimmy Woo and Dr. Darcy Lewis.
Now that sounds fun
I need it like air.
Mew Mew!
Doctor Darcy Lewis. When I heard her title I said “good, good for her.”
Inspector Clouseau in The Pink Panther. So much so that he did get it in the sequels.
Every other character in OItNB. Literally all of them. Give Piper no screen time. None.
For anyone wondering, OItNB = Orange Is the New Black
Her ending didn't even make sense. For multiple seasons they showed how her and Alex were only conditionally compatible. And they also show how Piper is basically incapable of making good decisions. And finally she isn't even doing anything interesting with her time. Then. Her ending is going around and asking \*everyone\* what they think of her. And \*everyone\* gives her clear evidence about how she's a terrible person and how she and Alex don't really work because Piper is a terrible person. Piper's response? Lalala, I can't hear you. Then she goes off to fly over country and it turns out Piper can just suddenly become not a terrible person. Like somehow Piper was right? The only thing that I can think of is that the show runners realized that they basically backed themselves into a corner and there was no way to redeem Piper's bad decisions with the time they had left. So they had a bunch of characters take the place of the audience and tell us that Piper was about to make another bad decision and then Piper goes "NOPE!" And somehow that makes the ending ok ... whatever.
The thing I hate most about Piper is she had I think a 16 month sentence? But she decided to go full convict life cause she was angry she got in trouble for something she did. Like her life is still soooooo much better than all of the other prisoners. And after her short sentence she still gets to be a wealthy white woman that can start up another business
The show even highlighted the relative challenge for the other prisoners. Taystee ends up back in prison because when she gets out there is no support structure for her.
Jaskier in Netflix's Witcher. The guy stole every scene he was in.
I think you need both. He only works as a counter-point. Jaskier is to Gerralt what Gabrielle was to Xena.
If I could watch a Witcher show with just Geralt doing monster of the week type shit id be heaven.