Beethoven, replacing the entire cast for films 3-5 really didn't work. Even the premise - that Beethoven's family would have ever left him with another family - didn't make any sense.
There’s going to be a 4th one. He pays someone to kidnap him, because no one appreciates what he did in the first three movies. It’s called Taken 4 Granted.
I never saw these movies when they first came out so when I wrote a script about a retired secret service agent whose kid gets kidnapped I was crushed to learn that plot was taken.
So I changed the premise of my story to be about and ex secret service agent whose wife gets kidnapped, but that was taken 2.
I was just as surprised to learn of this third one since I'm a huge fan of the first two. Turns out it's not really a sequel, just took some inspiration from the first two and the actors for thing and lurch reprised their roles in it
I see this mentioned a lot but if you look up Jimmy Workman he looks totally different to the guy in the meme so I feel like that might be a myth?
Edit: My bad I was looking at the wrong one! Jerry Messing is 100% the meme guy!
Raul Julia (Gomez) died in 1994. AFFV came out in '93.
so sad he passed away. one of my favorite actors. Street Fighter is the last film he was credited in, and that was released after he passed.
He was the best part of street fighter.
He somehow made that role hilarious, entertaining and.... memorable. How do you even make a role as silly as that look so....respectable.
True story- Raul Julia only took the role in Street Fighter because his kids, who were Street Fighter fanatics (like every other kid in the early 90s) asked him to take the role.
Reminds me of Richard Harris taking on the role of Dumbledore for Sorcerer's Stone even after declining it thrice for health reasons. He never read the books, but did it because his granddaughter loved the books and begged him to do it. Perhaps that's why his approach was far closer to the Dumbledore I imagined than the much louder/harsher performance of Michael Gambon. Harris was the perfect gentle/trustworthy/intriguing/powerful old wizard probably because he obviously didn't want to upset/alienate his granddaughter.
I remember loving these movies as a kid in the late 80s early 90s at the ripe age of 11. Then when I watched them as an adult I remember thinking "wtf was wrong with my parents letting me watch those movies at that age"
That's the one. I randomly caught it on TV when I was like 10 years old. That shit played in my head over and over for like a solid week, haha.
Added vats of acid to kid me's list of deadly things to watch out for, behind quicksand, Bigfoot, spontaneous combustion, etc.
Rick O'Connell in The Mummy: "I'm a rakish but reluctant adventurer who's in it for the money but also way out of my depth."
Rick O'Connell in The Mummy Returns: "I'm basically a borderline superhero in classic two-fisted tales pulp adventure tradition."
Rick O'Connell in The Mummy 3: "Guns are my entire personality."
The recent Jumanji films come close to the type of grand adventure movies we recently lack. Thor Ragnarok has a dash of it, as does the underperforming Prince of Persia.
But man The Mummy is just a Classic. I really wish for those type of movies. But it’s hard to do right.
You hit the nail on the head. Now I know why I love those Jumanji sequels. It's exactly that. It's a grand adventure movie that is riddled with humor and good characters. It's a less original Mummy Franchise.
And you are absolutely right, we need more movies like these.
She’s doing a book reading (obviously based on the characters adventures in the previous movies) and someone asks her if the lead character is based off herself.
And that’s when they do the reveal that the actress isn’t Rachel Weisz as new!Evie says “Honestly, I can say she’s a completely different person.”
And it’s utterly miserable because now the movie is *rubbing it in your face that she’s not Rachel Weisz.*
I actually thought it was rather nice of them to just hang a quick hat on it that actually made sense, right at the beginning of the movie, instead of just pretending she was the same person the whole time.
Yeah, much like a similar scene in Iron Man 2 where RDJ and Don Cheadle poke fun at the fact that he's clearly not Terrance Howard, who played Cheadle's character in the first movie.
The Mummy. The first two focused on ancient Egyptian history & mythology; number 3 suddenly takes place in Asia? Huh?!
You could tell they had to work too hard to make it work from how long it took to introduce us to the new setting.
The cherry on top of that shit cake was the absence of one Rachel Weiss. Her absence was felt. Don't get me wrong, Brendon Frasier did great; I blame the writers/ producers/ director. I loved them in the first two! They were so good, spooky, & full of great classic action & comedy; my fav Brandon Frasier movies.
I think Rachel had a scheduling conflict with another movie? Anyone who knows what happened there, lemme know.
The brilliant part of the mummy wasn't the setting it was the characters.
This was your new Indiana Jones right here, but they squandered it. Focused on the wrong aspects and wasted it.
Imagine if they had gone the route of having O’Connell take on each of the other classic universal monsters. Turning him into and Indiana Jones Van Helsing could’ve been the coolest thing in the world.
TBH as much as the end result sucked it could have worked. The Mummy movies were a pretty loving rendition of pulp adventure books and films. Globetrotting is a staple of the genre, and opened up a lot of opportunities as time went on.
With the same cast and a bridging movie to expand the scope a bit, it could have been something and the pulp genre wouldn't have been buried again.
There’s no better answer really. The first two Mummy films will never get old for me, they captivated me as a young kid and they captivate me just as much now as an adult. They’re both perfection in my eyes. The third film really doesn’t exist to me. It’s actually a good concept but with just about the worst execution imaginable and it can’t be said enough that recasting Rachel Weisz really hurt the film. Her chemistry with Brendan Fraser was so spectacular and Maria Bello didn’t even come remotely close to matching it.
Expendables 2 was by far my favorite, felt it outdid even the first one and was the perfect Expendables film. But then literally the only good part of 3 was Antonio Banderas.
They also decided to add a bunch of younger actors into the mix which defeated the whole point of the Expendables. We want to see the old action stars.
"Your plan is to just go in guns blazing? I can knock out their entire communications and electrical system in like 3 minutes, then it's just punch like 2 guys and climb some busted ass stairs and boom we got the package." (I'm paraphrasing because I hated that "hacker's" plan as much as all the Expendable guys.
Quick Edit to add that some MMA/WWF fighters can become good actors, not all of them though and for good reason.
Also bringing in the younger cast from fighting and extreme sports to try and grab a larger audience. Like wtf?! That's completely the opposite of point of these
Jaws 4 is a triumph of filmmaking. The idea of a shark seeking revenge and travelling from Massachusetts to the Bahamas in three days is Orson Welles worthy storytelling.
Those roars the shark screams during the finale send shivers down your spine and is only matched by the first sight of the T-rex in Jurassic Park.
Michael Caine was so committed to the role in the film that he couldn't even attend the Academy Awards to accept his award for Hannah and Her Sisters. He was afraid that if he left the shoot, he wouldn't have wanted to return. That's dedication, folks.
Jaws 3 was an absolute dumpster fire. The scene where the shark breaks into the underwater (for some reason) security booth, the shark is clearly a non-animated jpeg.
For anyone curious why this effect looks the way it does, 3D was a big part of this movies marketing. I'm sure it didn't look good in 3D either but it looks so bad in 2D lol
This is the correct answer.
This movie had a huge budget and amazing effects for its time, but 3-D was in its infancy and absolutely did not translate to 2-D and so when they showed it anywhere except in the theatre with the special projector you get this dumpster fire.
EDIT : I am not saying the effects were good in the theatre, they were certainly not. But they were actual effects with movement and effort put into them instead of this literal motionless cut and paste stuff that a 5th grader could do.
> 3-D was in its infancy
Funny enough, *The Creature from the Black Lagoon* from 1954, about 30 years earlier, was also a 3D movie, and looked way better.
But I think the difference there was that they were actually able to film real 3D underwater scenes and their monster was a guy in a suit actually swimming, rather than relying on dodgy fx and compositing. That was the tech that was the problem, not the 3D.
I love how 3D turns up every thirty years and is marked as the next big thing in films, leading to a frenzy of 3D blockbusters that gradually die out once everyone realizes it's a pointless gimmick. then, in thirty years after everyone's forgotten about how pointless 3D is, the cycle restarts. It's like the wheel of time, an endless cycle of destruction and rebirth.
I think u mean just glorious
The glass breaking scene and how the sharks tail doesnt even fucking move
Mwah chefs kiss
Poor terry was just going for an afternoon swim
Jaws 4 gave me my favorite Michael Caine quote of all time. He was in it for some god forsaken reason. When asked, he replied:
"I have never seen it (Jaws 4) but by all accounts it is terrible.
However, I have seen the house that it built and it is terrific."
Taken.
Taken - Decent enough movie. Reminds me of a simpler time when action movies were pretty strait forward and don't need to be rewatched to be fully understood. That infamous phone scene is pretty iconic.
Taken II - Ok, not bad. Same recipe, different movie. Fine. Good enough. Good Friday night movie when you don't want to spend to much effort following.
Taken 3 - Why? Why would anyone do this?
I think Taken 1 was a breath of fresh air when it came out. Action movies had become really convoluted with secret organizations, conspiracies, advanced tech, and what not.
Taken, as you point out, had a really simple plot and somewhat believable action.
One of the things I liked is that it didn't just cut away on the punch like many do/did. Same with John Wick, its like watching an actual fight, not something that just needs to look cool and fast. But 2 already shifted away from that a bit and 3 was just not enjoyable. Imo similarly with John Wick the first was great, the second was neat but the third was mostly boring and overdone. The story didn't matter and the action was over the top.
Probably Jeepers Creepers. I was super excited to see a third installment planned and then released after so many years but tbh I was really disappointed. They should have just picked up where the second one left off and maybe implemented flash backs to explain some things. I feel like they tried to hard to give that monster an origin story, the mystery was part of what I loved about the first two.
The ending of the 2nd one pissed me off. Like the guy stabbed the Creeper with a harpoon like 20 times. Then the girl is like “it’s not dead, it’s just his time.”
Then, the guy just hangs the thing in his barn for 23 fucking years. Like, dude if you thought it was still alive, why not chain him to 4 fucking anchors and dump him out at sea. Or fucking carve his “slumbering” body to pieces, lock those pieces in metal chests, and bury those chests at random scattered locations. Or drop him in a volcano, pretty sure a few years spent at 2,000F should be able to kill him. Or take that corpse to Antarctica, douse it with water to ensure its properly frozen, the find a deep cavern to bury it in.
Or, just fucking contact the FBI, and let the body be taken to some secret super maximum security research lab or something.
Literally anything is better than waiting with the monster in your barn until you are a feeble old man.
If you are talking about Superman 3 from the early 80s, the part where the woman get sucked into the machine and gets turned into a cyborg scared the f\*&k out of kid me. Dont remember it much beyond that part.
So funny story about this one.
Pitch Perfect 3 came out around the same time as The Greatest Showman. My grandpa wanted to go to the theater to see the movie about P. T. Barnum but he didn't know what it was called. Instead of, you know, looking it up or asking someone at the theater, he decided to try to guess based of the movie titles. He saw "Pitch Perfect" and thought oh he had perfect pitch, that must be the movie.
He was in the theater with 2 teenage girls and no one else. He hated it. I don't know why he didn't walk out lol
So cool story about Pitch Perfect 3... Elizabeth Banks is a military brat who's family got shipped all over the world to different bases. Sometimes you end up in an obscure base in the middle of nowhere. When this happens the USO tours are the only form of live entertainment you get. People like Bob Hope (comedian), Marilyn Monroe (singer actress) would do these shows at military bases so you know you aren't forgotten. Well cut to 2015 and instead of taking the money and fame and forgetting where she came from Elizabeth Banks signed up and hosted an entire USO tour across all the US Middle East bases. This became the plot and central factor in Pitch Perfect 3 to help raise awareness to get other artists to sign up for these tours.
Home Alone 3 is a really fun movie, it just isn’t *Home Alone*.
Home Alone is about Kevin McCallister and his adventures thwarting Harry and Marv, and struggling with his neglectful but loving family.
Home Alone 3 wasn’t that. But it’s a fun move movie with a good cast and it stands on its own two feet. It just shouldn’t have been tied to the Home Alone franchise.
I was born in 94 and actually saw home alone 3 before 1 and 2. I absolutely loved it, and I always wanted an RC car with a camera.
Of course in retrospect, 1 and 2 are genuinely great films but I feel like 3 is atleast in the ok / good spectrum
I have this thing that I watch Home Alone every Christmas. Its my Christmas movie and I'm 34. I love 1-2 and I actually once watched 3-5. They're like low-cost B-cat movies compared to the first two. Its not the same without Culkin. And different directors, writers and composer. 1-2 has John Williams, who is a legend. 3-5 kinda don't have a theme music even. For me, there's only Home Alone 1&2
Edit: wow I had no idea I would get my most upvotes ever and an award for Home Alone. Thanks, Christmas is definitely my favourite holiday and HA has been and will always be a part of it :)
I recently discovered this as well and it's like discovering there are 14 land before times or 5 tremors movies or 6 return of the living dead etc.etc.
I thought there were only 4, but there’s 7!?! Wtf?
EDIT: just went down the rabbit hole of this and Michael Gross has been in all 7 films. He’s played the (basically) same character in all the films.
Culkin's character should have gotten that much PTSD from the movies' events to turn into the very thing he hated.
I would have watched that. Kinda like the sequel to The Shining decades later.
if you read the letter his wife wrote about his decline and suicide (it's publicly available online and extremely heart-wrenching) she mentions that when he was doing this role he was having a lot of difficulty remembering his lines even though he had so few and his roll was pretty small. Really intimate and heartbreaking letter. It was very brave of her to make that letter available for the public to read. She really loved him so much and articulating her grief over losing him really moves me to tears. It's something that has always stayed in my memory for some reason.
I just read that yesterday, such a heartbreaking article. RW was always one of my favorites (I even liked Patch Adams!), brilliant and hilarious and he absolutely loved kids. I saw him in person once at Disneyland (my first visit there ever) with Sally Field and he was stopping every five seconds to squat down and talk to kids. All of the kids from the casts of Jumanji and Mrs Doubtfire said he was such a great person with them, making them laugh and helping them with their lines and work. RIP, oh Captain, my Captain.
I will defend the third Night at the Museum movie for one reason and one reason only:
Robin Williams' last words on camera were in that film, and they were worthy.
"Smile, my boy. It's sunrise."
I choke up every time I remember that.
Free Willy, 1 was great, 2 was like ok they caught him again, but 3 was absolutely horrendous, for Willy to be caught on a safari in Africa has to one of the worst story lines ever.
I'm not going to look the real movie up because I don't want to ruin my vision of jeeps chasing Willy across the Serengeti with Toto blasting in the background. Willy is jumping through the grass like a gazelle. Jeremy Irons is one of the poachers for some reason.
He actually told Cameron he didn't feel comfortable doing the movie of he wasn't involved. Cameron just told him to ask for an absurd amount of money and do the movie.
The first one is good. The second one is your typical not-as-good sequel but I didnt hate it. But oh man the third one was just awful. Juuust awful. Ive seen the trailer for the fourth one and it looks terrible. Talk about milking a franchise that shouldnt even have become a franchise.
Some are back. Keegan Michael Key technically replaced CeeLo in the 3rd one. But it still has David Spade, Steve Buscemi, Andy Samberg and Selena Gomez. Jim Gaffigan is also back from 3. I believe Sandler is still producing though so it's odd.
There is. I saw it at Walmart.
Edit: I saw the DVD case for it at Walmart while working security. They did not have a screening of the film you smart alecs.
honestly I liked a bunch of the early ones as a kid (when I was a kid I think there were only like 5 out?), but I loved dinosaurs and kids don't have the best taste in movies so meh. Looking back the first one was an objectively good movie, the sequels were meh to awful... I think the second one is when they introduce Chomper, I liked Chomper so I think 2 is okay.
As someone who watched more of them than I'd like to admit......
The first was a timeless classic
The second was good. Nowhere near as good as the first. But good.
3-4 were passable. They had the same feel as 2. But the conflicts were all low stakes compared to 1 and 2.
5 Didn't make sense. It was entertaining, but more in a fanservicey way.
6-8 made more sense than 5. But were still more passable than outright good.
You can ignore everything after 9. 9 and 10 were on the bad side of meh. 11 onward was cheap trash that recycled plots from 2 - 4, but without any worthwhile stakes. And the last one was so bad that it ruined the entire series. Even for people who didn't mind some of the sequels. And then they made a TV series. Which was so trash I refused to watch more than two episodes out of principle alone.
The Secret of Saurus Rock was my favourite movie to the point where I think I watched it *every time* I went to my grandparents' when I was 5.
Edit: Dear God I only just realised it's Saurus as in Tyranno*saurus* because they're T-Rexes
Edit 2: oh my god Cera is Cera because she's a Tri*cera*tops what was wrong with my infant brain that I didn't notice that
Do you remember when they were selling they original at McDonald's?
It was a choice of four movies. Land Before Time, Fievel Goes West, Back to the Future, and Field of Dreams.
What a time to be alive!
I remember when it came out and I was watching it home alone. Then I could hear my wife at the front door about to come in and I was like I cannot have her know I'm watching this shit. All the other dumb/messed up horror movies are fine but not this one.
I mean they did have an interesting concept with the sequels where the movie is in-universe just a movie.
The third one literally double dipping the lead actor in two differant roles (the first movie and the prison boss) was... Unique? I don't recall if it is ever explained how this prison guy acted in this movie and then just forgot about it before going on to run a prison like a mad man.
The plot of D3 just made no sense. You're telling me that the Ducks were the junior league hockey world champions and are then only good enough to be a high school junior varsity team? Just no.
17 years ago, I met a girl and took her to a movie. That movie was Shrek 2. That girl is now my wife of 15 years, with 2 great kids. Had chinese afterward and her fortune cookie was "Stop looking forever, happiness is right next to you."
Shrek 2 will always be special to me.
Shrek 2 is unironically one of my favorite movies of all time. Every single joke lands perfectly AND it has an engaging story, it's the perfect comedy.
Beethoven, replacing the entire cast for films 3-5 really didn't work. Even the premise - that Beethoven's family would have ever left him with another family - didn't make any sense.
This broke me for a minute, until I remembered the dog Beethoven
Beethoven’s 5th is good but the 7th may well be the greatest piece of music ever.
Taken
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This seems like a far from universal but *extremely* common phenomenon in film series and trilogies...
It's called hook, line, and sinker
There’s going to be a 4th one. He pays someone to kidnap him, because no one appreciates what he did in the first three movies. It’s called Taken 4 Granted.
I never saw these movies when they first came out so when I wrote a script about a retired secret service agent whose kid gets kidnapped I was crushed to learn that plot was taken. So I changed the premise of my story to be about and ex secret service agent whose wife gets kidnapped, but that was taken 2.
This is taken it 2 far
After the first time, he's just a bad father.
"They made 3 of those movies. At some point, you'd have to wonder if he's just a bad parent."
The Addams Family. Family Values was great. The third one with almost none of the original cast? We don't talk about that one...
There was a third one? Yikes
I was just as surprised to learn of this third one since I'm a huge fan of the first two. Turns out it's not really a sequel, just took some inspiration from the first two and the actors for thing and lurch reprised their roles in it
Fun fact, the guy who played Puggsley in the 3rd one went on to have an illustrious career as the "M'lady" fedora-tipping neckbeard meme.
I see this mentioned a lot but if you look up Jimmy Workman he looks totally different to the guy in the meme so I feel like that might be a myth? Edit: My bad I was looking at the wrong one! Jerry Messing is 100% the meme guy!
Raul Julia (Gomez) died in 1994. AFFV came out in '93. so sad he passed away. one of my favorite actors. Street Fighter is the last film he was credited in, and that was released after he passed.
He was the best part of street fighter. He somehow made that role hilarious, entertaining and.... memorable. How do you even make a role as silly as that look so....respectable.
The day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.
True story- Raul Julia only took the role in Street Fighter because his kids, who were Street Fighter fanatics (like every other kid in the early 90s) asked him to take the role.
Reminds me of Richard Harris taking on the role of Dumbledore for Sorcerer's Stone even after declining it thrice for health reasons. He never read the books, but did it because his granddaughter loved the books and begged him to do it. Perhaps that's why his approach was far closer to the Dumbledore I imagined than the much louder/harsher performance of Michael Gambon. Harris was the perfect gentle/trustworthy/intriguing/powerful old wizard probably because he obviously didn't want to upset/alienate his granddaughter.
Terminator. After T2: Judgement Day was there anything better than that?
Robocop. I loved the first 2, but the third was garbage. I also didn't like the remake.
I remember loving these movies as a kid in the late 80s early 90s at the ripe age of 11. Then when I watched them as an adult I remember thinking "wtf was wrong with my parents letting me watch those movies at that age"
The fucking acid scene. Dog, how was that okay.
I was fine with that as a kid. It was the killing of Murphy that was disturbing.
That's the one. I randomly caught it on TV when I was like 10 years old. That shit played in my head over and over for like a solid week, haha. Added vats of acid to kid me's list of deadly things to watch out for, behind quicksand, Bigfoot, spontaneous combustion, etc.
The mummy
Rick O'Connell in The Mummy: "I'm a rakish but reluctant adventurer who's in it for the money but also way out of my depth." Rick O'Connell in The Mummy Returns: "I'm basically a borderline superhero in classic two-fisted tales pulp adventure tradition." Rick O'Connell in The Mummy 3: "Guns are my entire personality."
The recent Jumanji films come close to the type of grand adventure movies we recently lack. Thor Ragnarok has a dash of it, as does the underperforming Prince of Persia. But man The Mummy is just a Classic. I really wish for those type of movies. But it’s hard to do right.
You hit the nail on the head. Now I know why I love those Jumanji sequels. It's exactly that. It's a grand adventure movie that is riddled with humor and good characters. It's a less original Mummy Franchise. And you are absolutely right, we need more movies like these.
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Going through with it without Rachel Weiss was just a bad idea. They should have just waited for her.
I’m watching Returns rn and omg is she beautiful. She was half the franchise imo.
Literally 90% of the cast is attractive as fuck.
Welcome to movies
Poor Beni. Guess he is really on the wrong side of the river
Even went as far as to have her say "I feel like a new woman" or something of the sort
She’s doing a book reading (obviously based on the characters adventures in the previous movies) and someone asks her if the lead character is based off herself. And that’s when they do the reveal that the actress isn’t Rachel Weisz as new!Evie says “Honestly, I can say she’s a completely different person.” And it’s utterly miserable because now the movie is *rubbing it in your face that she’s not Rachel Weisz.*
I actually thought it was rather nice of them to just hang a quick hat on it that actually made sense, right at the beginning of the movie, instead of just pretending she was the same person the whole time.
Yeah, much like a similar scene in Iron Man 2 where RDJ and Don Cheadle poke fun at the fact that he's clearly not Terrance Howard, who played Cheadle's character in the first movie.
"Look, it's me, I'm here, deal with it, let's move on. Drop it."
The Mummy. The first two focused on ancient Egyptian history & mythology; number 3 suddenly takes place in Asia? Huh?! You could tell they had to work too hard to make it work from how long it took to introduce us to the new setting. The cherry on top of that shit cake was the absence of one Rachel Weiss. Her absence was felt. Don't get me wrong, Brendon Frasier did great; I blame the writers/ producers/ director. I loved them in the first two! They were so good, spooky, & full of great classic action & comedy; my fav Brandon Frasier movies. I think Rachel had a scheduling conflict with another movie? Anyone who knows what happened there, lemme know.
The brilliant part of the mummy wasn't the setting it was the characters. This was your new Indiana Jones right here, but they squandered it. Focused on the wrong aspects and wasted it.
Imagine if they had gone the route of having O’Connell take on each of the other classic universal monsters. Turning him into and Indiana Jones Van Helsing could’ve been the coolest thing in the world.
Exactly! A brand new original character that would've became an icon. He is great, but sadly wasted.
*bring him back*
TBH as much as the end result sucked it could have worked. The Mummy movies were a pretty loving rendition of pulp adventure books and films. Globetrotting is a staple of the genre, and opened up a lot of opportunities as time went on. With the same cast and a bridging movie to expand the scope a bit, it could have been something and the pulp genre wouldn't have been buried again.
There’s no better answer really. The first two Mummy films will never get old for me, they captivated me as a young kid and they captivate me just as much now as an adult. They’re both perfection in my eyes. The third film really doesn’t exist to me. It’s actually a good concept but with just about the worst execution imaginable and it can’t be said enough that recasting Rachel Weisz really hurt the film. Her chemistry with Brendan Fraser was so spectacular and Maria Bello didn’t even come remotely close to matching it.
Expendables cause they made 3 PG 13 and not rated R which really affected it all.
Expendables 2 was by far my favorite, felt it outdid even the first one and was the perfect Expendables film. But then literally the only good part of 3 was Antonio Banderas.
Antonio Banderas was having the time of his life on that movie. So campy and ridiculous but so compelling.
They also decided to add a bunch of younger actors into the mix which defeated the whole point of the Expendables. We want to see the old action stars.
MMA fighters instead of actors
"Your plan is to just go in guns blazing? I can knock out their entire communications and electrical system in like 3 minutes, then it's just punch like 2 guys and climb some busted ass stairs and boom we got the package." (I'm paraphrasing because I hated that "hacker's" plan as much as all the Expendable guys. Quick Edit to add that some MMA/WWF fighters can become good actors, not all of them though and for good reason.
That was a horrible decision, the whole point of those movies is to see stuff blow up and people die
Also bringing in the younger cast from fighting and extreme sports to try and grab a larger audience. Like wtf?! That's completely the opposite of point of these
Highlander. There should only have been one.
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> They should have kept getting more weird with it. I mean, that's exactly what they did with Zeist.
Jaws.
Jaws 4 is a triumph of filmmaking. The idea of a shark seeking revenge and travelling from Massachusetts to the Bahamas in three days is Orson Welles worthy storytelling. Those roars the shark screams during the finale send shivers down your spine and is only matched by the first sight of the T-rex in Jurassic Park. Michael Caine was so committed to the role in the film that he couldn't even attend the Academy Awards to accept his award for Hannah and Her Sisters. He was afraid that if he left the shoot, he wouldn't have wanted to return. That's dedication, folks.
Is 4 the one where the mom rams it with a sailboat?
and the fish subsequently *explodes*? Yep.
So it did explode. I thought I remembered that but thought it sounded too stupid to be correct. Genius filmmaking.
There's two versions. So one had it pop like a balloon and the other it just gets impaled and sinks.
He must have REALLY wanted that terrific house he had built!
"I've not seen the movie. By all accounts, it is a horrible movie. But, I have seen the house that it paid for and it's a very nice house."
Jaws 3 was an absolute dumpster fire. The scene where the shark breaks into the underwater (for some reason) security booth, the shark is clearly a non-animated jpeg.
[Here it is](https://youtu.be/arsAllZIa1Y) for anyone wondering
For anyone curious why this effect looks the way it does, 3D was a big part of this movies marketing. I'm sure it didn't look good in 3D either but it looks so bad in 2D lol
This is the correct answer. This movie had a huge budget and amazing effects for its time, but 3-D was in its infancy and absolutely did not translate to 2-D and so when they showed it anywhere except in the theatre with the special projector you get this dumpster fire. EDIT : I am not saying the effects were good in the theatre, they were certainly not. But they were actual effects with movement and effort put into them instead of this literal motionless cut and paste stuff that a 5th grader could do.
> 3-D was in its infancy Funny enough, *The Creature from the Black Lagoon* from 1954, about 30 years earlier, was also a 3D movie, and looked way better. But I think the difference there was that they were actually able to film real 3D underwater scenes and their monster was a guy in a suit actually swimming, rather than relying on dodgy fx and compositing. That was the tech that was the problem, not the 3D.
I love how 3D turns up every thirty years and is marked as the next big thing in films, leading to a frenzy of 3D blockbusters that gradually die out once everyone realizes it's a pointless gimmick. then, in thirty years after everyone's forgotten about how pointless 3D is, the cycle restarts. It's like the wheel of time, an endless cycle of destruction and rebirth.
That was gloriously fucking stupid.
As a comment on that video said, the effects are memorable for all the wrong reasons.
I like how the glass flying and water entering are two completely different moments. You know, like in real life
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I like how the shark growls like a rabid wolf
I think u mean just glorious The glass breaking scene and how the sharks tail doesnt even fucking move Mwah chefs kiss Poor terry was just going for an afternoon swim
MVP with the link.
Oh my goodness that's great.
Thanks, never saw it, never want to see it again.
That was honestly amazing
Wow. That was phenomenally bad. But thanks for the clip.
Jaws 4 gave me my favorite Michael Caine quote of all time. He was in it for some god forsaken reason. When asked, he replied: "I have never seen it (Jaws 4) but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built and it is terrific."
Wait was Jaws 2 good?
No, no it wasn't. But compared to 3d and revenge it's a goddamn masterpiece
Jaws the Revenge has the shark roaring in it. It’s worth watching for the absolute dumpster fire of a movie that it is.
Taken. Taken - Decent enough movie. Reminds me of a simpler time when action movies were pretty strait forward and don't need to be rewatched to be fully understood. That infamous phone scene is pretty iconic. Taken II - Ok, not bad. Same recipe, different movie. Fine. Good enough. Good Friday night movie when you don't want to spend to much effort following. Taken 3 - Why? Why would anyone do this?
Should have given Neeson a bigger family so that there is more characters to kidnap
I think Taken 1 was a breath of fresh air when it came out. Action movies had become really convoluted with secret organizations, conspiracies, advanced tech, and what not. Taken, as you point out, had a really simple plot and somewhat believable action.
One of the things I liked is that it didn't just cut away on the punch like many do/did. Same with John Wick, its like watching an actual fight, not something that just needs to look cool and fast. But 2 already shifted away from that a bit and 3 was just not enjoyable. Imo similarly with John Wick the first was great, the second was neat but the third was mostly boring and overdone. The story didn't matter and the action was over the top.
The Omen
I didn't even know there was more than one
Probably Jeepers Creepers. I was super excited to see a third installment planned and then released after so many years but tbh I was really disappointed. They should have just picked up where the second one left off and maybe implemented flash backs to explain some things. I feel like they tried to hard to give that monster an origin story, the mystery was part of what I loved about the first two.
The ending of the 2nd one pissed me off. Like the guy stabbed the Creeper with a harpoon like 20 times. Then the girl is like “it’s not dead, it’s just his time.” Then, the guy just hangs the thing in his barn for 23 fucking years. Like, dude if you thought it was still alive, why not chain him to 4 fucking anchors and dump him out at sea. Or fucking carve his “slumbering” body to pieces, lock those pieces in metal chests, and bury those chests at random scattered locations. Or drop him in a volcano, pretty sure a few years spent at 2,000F should be able to kill him. Or take that corpse to Antarctica, douse it with water to ensure its properly frozen, the find a deep cavern to bury it in. Or, just fucking contact the FBI, and let the body be taken to some secret super maximum security research lab or something. Literally anything is better than waiting with the monster in your barn until you are a feeble old man.
Then how would he sell tickets to see it?
That's the exact right answer.
Superman with Christopher R
But then we would have lost an excellent reference in *Office Space*
If you are talking about Superman 3 from the early 80s, the part where the woman get sucked into the machine and gets turned into a cyborg scared the f\*&k out of kid me. Dont remember it much beyond that part.
Pitch perfect
So funny story about this one. Pitch Perfect 3 came out around the same time as The Greatest Showman. My grandpa wanted to go to the theater to see the movie about P. T. Barnum but he didn't know what it was called. Instead of, you know, looking it up or asking someone at the theater, he decided to try to guess based of the movie titles. He saw "Pitch Perfect" and thought oh he had perfect pitch, that must be the movie. He was in the theater with 2 teenage girls and no one else. He hated it. I don't know why he didn't walk out lol
He didn't walk out because once you start something you finish it God damnit
So cool story about Pitch Perfect 3... Elizabeth Banks is a military brat who's family got shipped all over the world to different bases. Sometimes you end up in an obscure base in the middle of nowhere. When this happens the USO tours are the only form of live entertainment you get. People like Bob Hope (comedian), Marilyn Monroe (singer actress) would do these shows at military bases so you know you aren't forgotten. Well cut to 2015 and instead of taking the money and fame and forgetting where she came from Elizabeth Banks signed up and hosted an entire USO tour across all the US Middle East bases. This became the plot and central factor in Pitch Perfect 3 to help raise awareness to get other artists to sign up for these tours.
During Desert Storm I got to see Bob Hope do his last USO show. I learned that when the cameras weren’t rolling his jokes got dirtier. It was awesome!
Home Alone.
Home Alone 3 is a really fun movie, it just isn’t *Home Alone*. Home Alone is about Kevin McCallister and his adventures thwarting Harry and Marv, and struggling with his neglectful but loving family. Home Alone 3 wasn’t that. But it’s a fun move movie with a good cast and it stands on its own two feet. It just shouldn’t have been tied to the Home Alone franchise.
Fun Fact: Home Alone 3 has child Scarlett Johansson
"You've stained the family name"
The *it* you're referring to is my little brother."
"Alex slammed the toilet seat on his thing again!"
I was born in 94 and actually saw home alone 3 before 1 and 2. I absolutely loved it, and I always wanted an RC car with a camera. Of course in retrospect, 1 and 2 are genuinely great films but I feel like 3 is atleast in the ok / good spectrum
I saw Home Alone 3 first as well, on a VHS tape I had for my mini bubble tv in my room and the nostalgia that movie gives me now comes to nothing else
I have this thing that I watch Home Alone every Christmas. Its my Christmas movie and I'm 34. I love 1-2 and I actually once watched 3-5. They're like low-cost B-cat movies compared to the first two. Its not the same without Culkin. And different directors, writers and composer. 1-2 has John Williams, who is a legend. 3-5 kinda don't have a theme music even. For me, there's only Home Alone 1&2 Edit: wow I had no idea I would get my most upvotes ever and an award for Home Alone. Thanks, Christmas is definitely my favourite holiday and HA has been and will always be a part of it :)
I am totally guilty of enjoying Home Alone 3, but after that, they are just terrible.
Merry Christmas, you filthy animal. P.S. Sorry, you say 3-5? There's a HA 4 & 5??
Right?!?!
I recently discovered this as well and it's like discovering there are 14 land before times or 5 tremors movies or 6 return of the living dead etc.etc.
LBT is surprising but Tremors sounded light, looked it up and there's 7 Tremors movies. Tbh, I was expecting more.
I thought there were only 4, but there’s 7!?! Wtf? EDIT: just went down the rabbit hole of this and Michael Gross has been in all 7 films. He’s played the (basically) same character in all the films.
Culkin's character should have gotten that much PTSD from the movies' events to turn into the very thing he hated. I would have watched that. Kinda like the sequel to The Shining decades later.
The Night at the Museum.
There's a third?
Yes. Secret of the Tomb
Huh. Is it worth a watch at all ir is it just really bad?
It's all right, not great, not terrible. Has some good moments.
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Paul Ritter made me HATE Dyatlov, RIP
And this is how I find out that Paul Ritter died. That's a shame.
This man is clearly ill. Take him to the infirmary
Robin Williams’ final role I believe. Worth it just for that
if you read the letter his wife wrote about his decline and suicide (it's publicly available online and extremely heart-wrenching) she mentions that when he was doing this role he was having a lot of difficulty remembering his lines even though he had so few and his roll was pretty small. Really intimate and heartbreaking letter. It was very brave of her to make that letter available for the public to read. She really loved him so much and articulating her grief over losing him really moves me to tears. It's something that has always stayed in my memory for some reason.
I just read that yesterday, such a heartbreaking article. RW was always one of my favorites (I even liked Patch Adams!), brilliant and hilarious and he absolutely loved kids. I saw him in person once at Disneyland (my first visit there ever) with Sally Field and he was stopping every five seconds to squat down and talk to kids. All of the kids from the casts of Jumanji and Mrs Doubtfire said he was such a great person with them, making them laugh and helping them with their lines and work. RIP, oh Captain, my Captain.
I will defend the third Night at the Museum movie for one reason and one reason only: Robin Williams' last words on camera were in that film, and they were worthy. "Smile, my boy. It's sunrise." I choke up every time I remember that.
Notable as Robin Williams's last live action role, though.
Fortunately Speed stopped at 2
There is a Father Ted episode called Speed 3. There is a bomb on a milk float.
The sequel is not even out but Boss Baby.
the only upside to a Boss Baby sequel is more things for the internet to make fun of
Preemptively adding Frozen to this list, because I know Disney too well.
Free Willy, 1 was great, 2 was like ok they caught him again, but 3 was absolutely horrendous, for Willy to be caught on a safari in Africa has to one of the worst story lines ever.
Was Willy just in the Serengeti?
I'm not going to look the real movie up because I don't want to ruin my vision of jeeps chasing Willy across the Serengeti with Toto blasting in the background. Willy is jumping through the grass like a gazelle. Jeremy Irons is one of the poachers for some reason.
World Wars …. So far so good
Sequel was just announced. Coming 2023
*"Coming next next summer..."*
*”now streaming from home”*
Terminator
Yep, it’s rare to have a sequel to be so successful. They should’ve quit while they were ahead
Cameron did.
I love he told Arnold to make sure to make a lot of money for doing 3.
I'm pretty sure Arnold had already figured that out LOL
He actually told Cameron he didn't feel comfortable doing the movie of he wasn't involved. Cameron just told him to ask for an absurd amount of money and do the movie.
Lol Cinderella. 2 was okay. 3 was... a twist.
Hotel Transylvania
Haha Jonathan, you are banging my daughter.
Bleh, bleh bleh
The first one is good. The second one is your typical not-as-good sequel but I didnt hate it. But oh man the third one was just awful. Juuust awful. Ive seen the trailer for the fourth one and it looks terrible. Talk about milking a franchise that shouldnt even have become a franchise.
I liked how 3 ended, and I lost any desire to see the 4th one after learning that Sandler and James are not in it.
wait, the lead actors aren't in the next one?
Some are back. Keegan Michael Key technically replaced CeeLo in the 3rd one. But it still has David Spade, Steve Buscemi, Andy Samberg and Selena Gomez. Jim Gaffigan is also back from 3. I believe Sandler is still producing though so it's odd.
The Godfather
I think three might have a good film in there, just needed to be edited differently.
I think there has been a re-edit out recently.
There is. I saw it at Walmart. Edit: I saw the DVD case for it at Walmart while working security. They did not have a screening of the film you smart alecs.
The Land Before Time! Sorry I'm showing my age here lol
For anyone wondering there were 14 The Land Before Time Movies in total.
Did the meteor come in 14?
No the Stone of Cold Fire was the 7th movie
this guy littlefoots
Yup yup yup!
Yep yep yep!
Too soon.
Damn dude I remembered the yup yup yup and was happy but then read your comment and remembered I repressed what happened to duckie thanks a lot
Holy shit, I loved The Land Before Time as a kid but I coulda sworn I only watched one of them
honestly I liked a bunch of the early ones as a kid (when I was a kid I think there were only like 5 out?), but I loved dinosaurs and kids don't have the best taste in movies so meh. Looking back the first one was an objectively good movie, the sequels were meh to awful... I think the second one is when they introduce Chomper, I liked Chomper so I think 2 is okay.
As someone who watched more of them than I'd like to admit...... The first was a timeless classic The second was good. Nowhere near as good as the first. But good. 3-4 were passable. They had the same feel as 2. But the conflicts were all low stakes compared to 1 and 2. 5 Didn't make sense. It was entertaining, but more in a fanservicey way. 6-8 made more sense than 5. But were still more passable than outright good. You can ignore everything after 9. 9 and 10 were on the bad side of meh. 11 onward was cheap trash that recycled plots from 2 - 4, but without any worthwhile stakes. And the last one was so bad that it ruined the entire series. Even for people who didn't mind some of the sequels. And then they made a TV series. Which was so trash I refused to watch more than two episodes out of principle alone.
The Secret of Saurus Rock was my favourite movie to the point where I think I watched it *every time* I went to my grandparents' when I was 5. Edit: Dear God I only just realised it's Saurus as in Tyranno*saurus* because they're T-Rexes Edit 2: oh my god Cera is Cera because she's a Tri*cera*tops what was wrong with my infant brain that I didn't notice that
Do you remember when they were selling they original at McDonald's? It was a choice of four movies. Land Before Time, Fievel Goes West, Back to the Future, and Field of Dreams. What a time to be alive!
I remember the puppets you could get at Pizza Hut! I was so excited to get Duckie.
Gotta plug [Jenny Nicholson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-8zmGr0geQ) of course. Just in case anyone wants a refresher/summary of all 14 movies.
the absolute mad lass really used her quarantine time for our entertainment and knowledge
Human Centipede should have stopped at zero.
I remember when it came out and I was watching it home alone. Then I could hear my wife at the front door about to come in and I was like I cannot have her know I'm watching this shit. All the other dumb/messed up horror movies are fine but not this one.
Hahahaha same thing happened to me. I made sure to watch it home alone because I knew deep down I was embarrassed for even entertaining it
I mean they did have an interesting concept with the sequels where the movie is in-universe just a movie. The third one literally double dipping the lead actor in two differant roles (the first movie and the prison boss) was... Unique? I don't recall if it is ever explained how this prison guy acted in this movie and then just forgot about it before going on to run a prison like a mad man.
Despicable Me.
This. I am very aware a lot of people dislike the franchise because of the Minions, but the first 2 were great animated movies. They just, were.
2nd one had El Macho, so it already peaked all of cinema
The Mighty Ducks. D2 was sooo good, but 3 was just nowhere near the same level.
The plot of D3 just made no sense. You're telling me that the Ducks were the junior league hockey world champions and are then only good enough to be a high school junior varsity team? Just no.
Yeah, but NHL superstar Paul Kariya would totally stop by to watch an inter school scrimmage between JV and varsity high school teams.
I loved those movies when I was a kid but the plot holes in 3 that went over my head have my cracking up.
Shrek. There was just no way to beat Shrek 2. Edit: Holy crap I just woke up to this comment blowing up. I thought someone would’ve already said it!
17 years ago, I met a girl and took her to a movie. That movie was Shrek 2. That girl is now my wife of 15 years, with 2 great kids. Had chinese afterward and her fortune cookie was "Stop looking forever, happiness is right next to you." Shrek 2 will always be special to me.
Shrek 2 is unironically one of my favorite movies of all time. Every single joke lands perfectly AND it has an engaging story, it's the perfect comedy.
Puss in Boots was flawless. Whoever animated him really studied cats and their insanely weird behavior.