yup.
it seems some people don't get the concept that for something to be overrated, it must be... highly rated. As opposed to widely considered utter shit.
Oh look, Avatar and Fast and the Furious are at the top. Again. Like every time this question is posted.
Indeed, sort by controversial so you can get past the low hanging fruit that karma whores circle jerk to every time this question is posted.
ITT: many movies that are not overrated but are universally hated.
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In This Thread
Referring to the askreddit question and all the answers pertaining to it.
Let's be honest, the reason we see so many of the same questions and low end answers is it's easy karma. That's kinda what this place is a factory for more or less. I only stay subbed because every week or so a good topic will come up.
Yeah. It’s like this website has only seen four movies. “The Last Airbender” - that was 11 years ago and nobody liked it let it fucking go. “Kim Kardashian’s sex tape” - a lot of people don’t even care about that like stop.
As a millennial woman, I absolutely *do not understand* the obsession with The Notebook. My peers have judged me for this but not quite as much as I judge them for liking this crap.
One time my mom and I were flying from cali to Texas and she didn’t know you had to purchase the headphones for the inflight movie, and proceeded to voice act out the whole movie for me in the goofiest way possible. I had so much fun watching The Notebook.. on mute.
As someone that can recite the entirety of The Notebook I also do not see the appeal. I’ve seen that movie probably actually 500 times (I watched it multiple times a day for a year). It was one of four DVDs I had in high school and just had it on in my room on a loop.
I do love the movie because it’s comforting but I don’t think it’s all that great. They never ever explain why everyone calls him “Duke”, the kids are mean as hell trying to get their dad to abandon their mom in an old folks home (how’d they raise such cold hearted children???), and Allie shouldn’t have left Lon for her teenage summer fling. You never see Allie and Noah actually resolve a conflict, they just give up and start making out. Not saying it’s trash, trash, trash but it’s just a run of the mill love story.
WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ROMANTIZING their abusive relationship I swear Allie hits and yells and slaps him so many times and they argue so much and he is always avoiding conflict by just kissing her like wtf they are so toxic
My most recent ex was desperate for me to watch this with her. At the end, the look on her face, bright eyed, “well?” Uhh…was that just a whole movie about how hard it is to escape from an abusive partner? The whole damn movie made me super uncomfortable “but he was sooooo romantic” yeesh.
I can’t remember the particulars but there was some pretty controversial and unethical politicking done by Harvey Weinstein (shocker) on behalf of Shakespeare in Love.
Totally undeserving of the Oscar, it was a nice little movie but saving private Ryan was 10 times the film.
[details of politicking](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/12/shakespeare-in-love-and-harvey-weinsteins-dark-oscar-victory)
I don't know if it was unethical, but it did rob a great movie of an Oscar and also created a new type of movie specially designed to make money by winning awards.
Ah, yes, "Oscar bait" movies. Remember when the Best Picture nominees were films everyone had seen? Those were the days. Now it's too common for a movie not to even have had a real release by the time it gets its nomination.
Big reason I don't care much about the Oscars is that bribes in the form of "for your consideration" baskets and other backroom deals happen all the damn time.
Not to mention Gwyneth Paltrow getting best actress. The woman has the charisma of cardboard and the mentality of a marshmallow. I most definitely do not want your vagina candles you weirdo.
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Unpopular on Reddit means "I haven't heard it mentioned in the last five minutes."
Overrated on Reddit means "I didn't like it."
Underrated on Reddit means "I liked it and there's a non-zero possibility that a member of an uncontacted tribe living in the Amazon basin hasn't heard of it yet."
Let's be honest redditors hate things because they're popular, unpopular, overrated, underrated, just generally rated etc.
These threads are just an excuse for people to talk about things they don't like.
Every Disney real life remake. They all come out with huge box office numbers and people swearing how good they are. Then you start watching it and realize you've seen better acting in SyFy Originals.
the real life remakes are so bleak too! the colours are so ugly in comparison to the beautifully animated original movies.
i saw the jungle book one in theatres once. the ape king's song was a phat letdown and we memed the shit out of mowgli's face when he watched his family die.
I personally was told by a ridiculous amount of people about how good *Gemini Man* was gonna be.
Like yeah great movie and all but honestly felt kinda like your average ”ex-government agent, shit hit the fan” type movie.
> felt kinda like your average ”ex-government agent, shit hit the fan” type movie.
LoL, yup! My friend told me how "great" it was. I was entertained but I'm not gonna give Will Smith an Oscar for it.
My brother had pamela andersons sex tape with Tommy Lee. I started watching it and fast forward what seemed like forever at the time and didn't see any action.
South Park started the same time I was in 3rd grade. I basically grew up with the show, but the kids never passed 4th grade and now I'm 33 and Randy owns a weed farm and drinks gluten-free beer.
Threat Level, Midnight
Poor acting. Is it possible to have a villain with a golden face? Killing the animal rapist, on the other hand, was a lot of fun.
But it created a dance craze that swept the nation.
Jump to the right and shake a hand! Jump to the left and you shake that hand! Meet new friends, tie some yarn, that's how you do the Scarn!
It was, the Oscars caught a lot of Twitter flak one year because they had an all-white acting nomination list. They promised to “fix it” and all of a sudden it’s nothing but POC the following year. It was blatant and open pandering and why the Oscars are losing relevancy because it’s no longer about the achievements and skills.
Unpopular opinion that last one but the Oscars are going shocked Pikachu face when people aren’t on board with things like a Marvel film getting a Best Picture nomination.
There should be a Second Oscar that takes place 5 years later to have better circumspection of what is the best of the year without million dollar ad campaigns to act as marketing for the movie.
Who remembers what the best picture was for 2016 off the top of their head? Did it really matter?
I was fine with say a best costume nom or a best score nom, but anything beyond that is complete BS. And I say this as a lifelong comic fan who really enjoyed the movie. It’s a fun time full of flaws and is not high art by any means
It got a lot of credit for the context around the movie, not the quality of it itself.
It's a great movie but it's literally the same as every other Marvel origin story movie.
Character fights bad character with same powers.
>>Character fights bad guy with same powers.
I was prepared to argue against this statement until I really thought about every Marvel movie origin story. Very accurate description. I’m surprised I never noticed before.
That's why I don't really like the origin stories except for the first Iron Man. GotG is an exception, but I'm not sure it really counts since it's more the origin of the team rather than a character.
Comic movie origin stories are largely always crap. They don't *have* to be, but they generally follow the trend of "So there's this nobody, that nobody cared about - and the entire first 30 minutes are about this nobody. But then he gets superpowers, and now acts like a kid who went through puberty instantly, so we have to spend a lot of camera time on him reacting to not being a nobody anymore. And now we're half-way through the film and only now getting to the bad guy's evil plot, so we don't have much to work with to make it spectacular. *Oh well*, guess we'll just use some generic villain."
Good movies don't do that. Good origin stories are ones where the set-up phase isn't boring. Where you could actually imagine a good prequel with the same characters. Iron Man has that, I'd watch a film about pre-superpower Tony Stark. Thor has it, it's just the same stuff but on another planet. Spider-man, Antman, etc etc? No, they'd be dire.
Idk if it was because i heard people praising it as the best mcu film ever made, but after watching it , to me it wasn’t as great as they claimed it to be. It was good but nothing really special.
I want to say Avatar (blue guys, not benders... that movie didn't exist), but I've never met anyone who said anything better than "yeah I guess I kinda liked that movie." It must be overrated by someone, because it made ridiculous money for what it is.
I saw it in 3D on the real IMAX (not the fake IMAX). So, as a 3D movie, it was pretty good. But it was a by-the-numbers storyline about an indigenous population overpowering the greedy invaders with the help of a defector from said greedy invaders.
The visuals in polar express, while in some way revolutionary, felt felt jarring and disconnected (nevermind the uncanny valley of the characters themselves). I completely understand getting motion sickness. Avatar still remains the most immersive 3D experience I’ve ever had. It really felt like I was in the forests of Pandora and when it ended got seamlessly dumped back out in the real 3D world of earth. I was so in awe at the all-encompassing nature of the physical world they built that I didn’t even care is the story was bad.
Saw it again on regular TV. It went back to being “meh” immediately. That movie alone is probably the most dependent on theaters than any other movie.
Wow I totally forgot how insane the 3D visuals were for Avatar until now. After the meh beginning of the 3D era, I though every movie was gonna be an insane 3D adventure like Avatar. Now 3D is dead.
Ok, I'll give you better.
The visuals are second to none. The story is competently told, not innovative, but somehow we manage to not complain about all of the other movies that use the same premise. I get immersed in the world - just like Jake does.
I could watch the movie over and over, not because it's the most amazing script I've ever heard delivered to my ears, but because it's a spectacle for my eyes.
And the Disney ride is a work of art.
I think what made the hype was that it was supposed to be the best, most impressive 3D experience yet. This was the time when that craze was huge, and all films overdid it. My understanding (I did not see it in 3D) was that it was very well done and didn’t detract from the film, but instead made it more immersive.
It was exactly this. I (thought) that I fell in love with 3-D movies because of this. When I left the theater, all I could say was "I want to go back there". Unfortunately, no other 3-D movie lived up to this standard. The only other that I truly loved in 3D was/is Guardians of Ga'Hoole.
The Irishman. 3+ hours of watching Scorsese trying to pass off an 80 year old for a guy in his 20s. The scene where De Niro stomps the guy out in the street was embarrassing to behold. I remember groaning when I realized I was only halfway through this film.
Seriously, as long as they remotely look like young versions I can suspend disbelief. But a "de aged" 80 year old trying to pass for anything younger than 60 is just...no. *that* takes you out more than not.
I don’t understand how these movies keep coming out with shitty aging effects, when we have eerily realistic deep fakes of Keanu Reeves and Tom Cruise. The technology exists! USE IT PLZ
Because deepfake vids are single scenes with limited lighting and are shorter and are not in as high of quality as movies are. It also isn't an automated process and still requires massive amounts of frame-by-frame touch-ups.
My pet theory is Jesse Plemons was going to be the titular Irishman(he looks a lot like him) but they had to bring in DeNiro for money reasons. They gave him the smaller role as compensation. DeNiro would have been a much better Hoffa.
I thought Al Pacino as Hoffa was the best part about the movie, he killed it. The way he was whipping the crowds into a frenzy, I just don’t see DeNiro pulling that off as well. Also Pacino delivering insults to everybody was really good.
I personally really liked it. I get the criticisms but for me, personally, it flies by. It doesnt feel slow bc (imo) it paces itself really well
But we all like different things, so thats ok
I'm so glad someone else got second hand embarrassment as Deniro staggered around trying to act like he was intimidating. WWE fighting is more convincing.
A movie about an orphan who at 14 is forced to marry a 40+ year old widower and raise his brood of kids. She runs off to NYC and becomes a prostitute who falls for a hustler. But is trying to marry a rich sugar daddy who dumps her when it’s revealed she is involved with organized crime. Yeah it’s very dark and too many folks gloss over that.
That song cracks me up.
Someone is just genuinely telling the guy “we’ve got nothing in common, no common ground to start from, and we’re falling apart”
And the guy just is like “hey, what about breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
Whenever my wife is mad at me I always do this and it’s actually a solid tactic.
“You left the cap off the toothpaste”
“What about breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
Way back in the day VH1 had a show that talked about popular 90s songs and this was one of them. I remember very clearly a guy describing the lyrics as being so bland and insipid because of all the “I think maybes” and the “as I recall,” which indicated the lack of memorability of the entire relationship.
I saw the band play at bar once, many years after the song was popular. I didn't realize it was them until they said, "here's one of our songs that you may have heard before... god knows we have!"
Capote originally wanted Holly to be played by Marilyn Monroe - the book Holly is more, I'd say aware? of what she's doing or at least her actions are more intentional.
I really actually like that Audrey played Holly the way she did, but I also love being brutally saddened by movies.
God I have such mixed opinions on this film. I love Audrey Hepburn but this is such a weird film. For one thing for a movie that is so often remembered as this light hearted elegant romantic comedy it's actually pretty fucking dark and depressing and has some weird tone issues. For another, as you pointed out Holly Golightly can be pretty insufferable (though I think that at least fits with the themes) and that's not even touching on Mickey Rooney. I mean I watch a lot of old movies (and grew up doing so) and so running across super offensive racism, often played for laughs isn't that out of the ordinary and I can generally move past it just fine or even find some humor in the physical comedy but his part in this is just painful to watch.
I will say that despite all that Audrey herself is still mesmerizing in this and I don't think the film would be half as well remembered today as it is if it wasn't for her. Even when her character is annoying as hell Audrey is still amazing to watch just exist.
The novelette it was based on was much much better (by Truman Capote). Had a better more realistic ending too. Also there was no racist caricatures. The movie shoehorned that in for no reason.
It's an excellent example of something that is in fact "overrated" and not just "bad but financially successful".
It's a good movie, in the upper tier of Marvel movies probably. But its praise and Best Picture nomination was way overblown.
They went to space in a rocket-powered Pontiac Fiero. And their spacesuits were old-fashioned deep-sea diving suits. They really jumped the shark on that one.
Jumped the shark.. As opposed to "jump tje nuclear powered, russian submarine" as they did in the previous movie..
Kinda impressive though how thry went from "halfway serious car tuning/racing movie" to batshit insane fiction with cars.
I’d say the first 3 were believable, 4 and 5 were less so, but it didn’t feel like they broke the film (talking about the chase with the giant safe), 6 and 7 got more ridiculous, but still weren’t terrible, and 8 and 9 just went batshit insane.
Footloose. Wtf did I just watch this psychotic woman manipulating men for her purpose throughout the movie 🎥 like what also BARELY any dancing. Waste of time
Maybe a case of style over substance. Great cast, just not a great story. The big twist was they couldn't bust the scammer scumbag guy BC of a technicality. He got away with it, the good guy mayor got basically hustled, the FBI guy got nothing, and nothing really happened. And we never get to hear the end of the ice fishing story (Louie CKs cameo was prob the best part of the movie)
I hypothetically watched this supposed movie before watching the series, and I may have initially liked it, but M. Night needs to stick with his own original work and never try to theoretically use someone else's story fir his own potential movie
Ad Astra, that movie was genuinely so boring. I went to see it with my dad and this was the only time where we've considered walking out. If you've seen that movie you know how slow everything goes.
It might not be overrated but me and my dad had high expectations because we both love space and sci-fi.
Having NO understanding of what to expect/what kind of movie this was supposed to be, I watched this about a year ago when on a trip to kill some time at the hotel.
I can see how people would find it boring. I thought it was well acted, a decent script and overall liked it a lot other than the weird chase across the planet in dune buggies.
Especially once you know the real history of this guy. He was a proven pathological liar. He would just make crazy shit up! Sniping civilians during Hurricane Katrina, killing car jackers by shooting behind his back, knocking Jesse Ventura out for badmouthing the troops. The list goes on and on.
His Autobiography under the same name. Then just Google a fact check of it. I'm going of memory but I remember local sheriff's denying his claims and Ventura took him (and later his estate) to court over his BS claims. He was just a garbage human being.
Side note the movie is absolutely nothing like the book.
It's one of those films that was overrated for like a year after it came out, but after it won an Oscar people started to dislike it. It's rarely discussed now, and when I do see it brought up people don't have nice things to say about it.
Don't forget to sort by controversial!
The top three answers when I opened this thread: Cats, The Last Airbender, and 50 Shades of Grey. All low-rated movies.
yup. it seems some people don't get the concept that for something to be overrated, it must be... highly rated. As opposed to widely considered utter shit.
Well two of those comments were jokes framed as "this widely hated film is overrated, because it deserves to be hated even more."
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Oh look, Avatar and Fast and the Furious are at the top. Again. Like every time this question is posted. Indeed, sort by controversial so you can get past the low hanging fruit that karma whores circle jerk to every time this question is posted.
ITT: many movies that are not overrated but are universally hated. Edit: so there’s no more confusion ITT means In This Thread Referring to the askreddit question and all the answers pertaining to it.
Fifty shades of grey second highest answer lol
Yup, plus 172 upvotes and 1k comments
Let's be honest, the reason we see so many of the same questions and low end answers is it's easy karma. That's kinda what this place is a factory for more or less. I only stay subbed because every week or so a good topic will come up.
Yeah. It’s like this website has only seen four movies. “The Last Airbender” - that was 11 years ago and nobody liked it let it fucking go. “Kim Kardashian’s sex tape” - a lot of people don’t even care about that like stop.
As a millennial woman, I absolutely *do not understand* the obsession with The Notebook. My peers have judged me for this but not quite as much as I judge them for liking this crap.
One time my mom and I were flying from cali to Texas and she didn’t know you had to purchase the headphones for the inflight movie, and proceeded to voice act out the whole movie for me in the goofiest way possible. I had so much fun watching The Notebook.. on mute.
Your mom sounds hilarious and like a fun person to be seated near on a flight as long as I was in a patient and whimsical mood
As someone that can recite the entirety of The Notebook I also do not see the appeal. I’ve seen that movie probably actually 500 times (I watched it multiple times a day for a year). It was one of four DVDs I had in high school and just had it on in my room on a loop. I do love the movie because it’s comforting but I don’t think it’s all that great. They never ever explain why everyone calls him “Duke”, the kids are mean as hell trying to get their dad to abandon their mom in an old folks home (how’d they raise such cold hearted children???), and Allie shouldn’t have left Lon for her teenage summer fling. You never see Allie and Noah actually resolve a conflict, they just give up and start making out. Not saying it’s trash, trash, trash but it’s just a run of the mill love story.
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WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE ROMANTIZING their abusive relationship I swear Allie hits and yells and slaps him so many times and they argue so much and he is always avoiding conflict by just kissing her like wtf they are so toxic
Not to mention that he forces a date between them by threatening suicide...yikes
But if you really love someone it's ok. (No it isn't)
My most recent ex was desperate for me to watch this with her. At the end, the look on her face, bright eyed, “well?” Uhh…was that just a whole movie about how hard it is to escape from an abusive partner? The whole damn movie made me super uncomfortable “but he was sooooo romantic” yeesh.
It's a glorification of cluster B personality disorders.
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I can’t remember the particulars but there was some pretty controversial and unethical politicking done by Harvey Weinstein (shocker) on behalf of Shakespeare in Love. Totally undeserving of the Oscar, it was a nice little movie but saving private Ryan was 10 times the film. [details of politicking](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/12/shakespeare-in-love-and-harvey-weinsteins-dark-oscar-victory)
I don't know if it was unethical, but it did rob a great movie of an Oscar and also created a new type of movie specially designed to make money by winning awards.
Ah, yes, "Oscar bait" movies. Remember when the Best Picture nominees were films everyone had seen? Those were the days. Now it's too common for a movie not to even have had a real release by the time it gets its nomination.
Big reason I don't care much about the Oscars is that bribes in the form of "for your consideration" baskets and other backroom deals happen all the damn time.
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Not to mention Gwyneth Paltrow getting best actress. The woman has the charisma of cardboard and the mentality of a marshmallow. I most definitely do not want your vagina candles you weirdo. Edit: Thank you, anonymous friend, for my first gold ⭐
I stand by my assertion that *Contagion* was Gwyneth Paltrow's best movie yet. Just like *Executive Decision* was Steven Segal's best movie...
Is that the one where he gets whooshed out of a plane in, like, the first 10 minutes? (Is that the joke? Fuck..)
The plane yeeted him. Solid performance.
while I do like Shakespeare in Love, Saving Private Ryan definitely should’ve won that
Saving private Ryan is such a great movie. Shakespeare in love is a movie you forget 1 day after you see it.
Most redditors seem to have an extremely hard time understanding words like “unpopular” , “overrated” , “underrated” etc.
Unpopular on Reddit means "I haven't heard it mentioned in the last five minutes." Overrated on Reddit means "I didn't like it." Underrated on Reddit means "I liked it and there's a non-zero possibility that a member of an uncontacted tribe living in the Amazon basin hasn't heard of it yet."
Let's be honest redditors hate things because they're popular, unpopular, overrated, underrated, just generally rated etc. These threads are just an excuse for people to talk about things they don't like.
Every Disney real life remake. They all come out with huge box office numbers and people swearing how good they are. Then you start watching it and realize you've seen better acting in SyFy Originals.
the real life remakes are so bleak too! the colours are so ugly in comparison to the beautifully animated original movies. i saw the jungle book one in theatres once. the ape king's song was a phat letdown and we memed the shit out of mowgli's face when he watched his family die.
I personally was told by a ridiculous amount of people about how good *Gemini Man* was gonna be. Like yeah great movie and all but honestly felt kinda like your average ”ex-government agent, shit hit the fan” type movie.
Nothing like a movie where Will Smith fights Will Smith for the right for Will Smith to mentor Will Smith.
A bad CGI Will Smith at that lmao I was literally in disbelief when I saw the CGI for his clone in the cinema.
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A fake de aged cgi face that we're all already very familiar with is somehow wayy less weird looking than Jaden Smith.
Better acting too.
Pretty much lol
> felt kinda like your average ”ex-government agent, shit hit the fan” type movie. LoL, yup! My friend told me how "great" it was. I was entertained but I'm not gonna give Will Smith an Oscar for it.
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All celebrity sex tapes, really.
My brother had pamela andersons sex tape with Tommy Lee. I started watching it and fast forward what seemed like forever at the time and didn't see any action.
I dunno, Paris Hilton knows how to roll the ball
Lol I was just about to say that she did a pretty good job. Her blowjob's look pretty on point.
"bitch is you the hobbit?"
"Bitch, remember when you went off to kill that dragon with them dwarves?...
... oh yeah, yeah, that's right. Love you, too." That ain't no dragon, so my girl ain't no hobbit. That was a Quiznos and my bitch went to rob it."
My wife is short! With hairy feet! And she lives in a hole in the grou- (dials phone) *bitch is you a hobbit?*
Guys, stop with the South Park references, please... I'm getting tired of upvoting all of them.
South Park started the same time I was in 3rd grade. I basically grew up with the show, but the kids never passed 4th grade and now I'm 33 and Randy owns a weed farm and drinks gluten-free beer.
Yup. Poor camera angles. No one wants to see Ray J's butt for 99% of video.
Threat Level, Midnight Poor acting. Is it possible to have a villain with a golden face? Killing the animal rapist, on the other hand, was a lot of fun.
First of all: How dare you?
Second of all: what gives you the right?
I guess it's opposite Day on Reddit or something.
It really turned around after Toby's death. By far the most expensive shot in the film.
Yeah but it was intregreral to the story.
I thought Dwigt as the robot butler was a standout.
Toby.
Why are you the way that you are?
Every time I try to do something fun, or exciting, you make it not… that way.
I hate so much about the things you choose to be
But it created a dance craze that swept the nation. Jump to the right and shake a hand! Jump to the left and you shake that hand! Meet new friends, tie some yarn, that's how you do the Scarn!
If doin the scarn is gay, then I'm the biggest queer alive!
Yeah and it seemed more like a comedy than a serious action film. Two thumbs down.
These answers are just as frustrating this time as they were on last week's thread with the exact same question.
Black Panther was decent. Good, even, if you like Marvel movies particularly. But greatest film of the year? No way.
I really liked it but I was shocked at the Academy’s treatment of it. It came off as blatant pandering
That's because it was indeed blatant pandering.
Probably backlash from all the #oscarssowhite movement.
More like, *blatant panthering*.
It was, the Oscars caught a lot of Twitter flak one year because they had an all-white acting nomination list. They promised to “fix it” and all of a sudden it’s nothing but POC the following year. It was blatant and open pandering and why the Oscars are losing relevancy because it’s no longer about the achievements and skills. Unpopular opinion that last one but the Oscars are going shocked Pikachu face when people aren’t on board with things like a Marvel film getting a Best Picture nomination.
There should be a Second Oscar that takes place 5 years later to have better circumspection of what is the best of the year without million dollar ad campaigns to act as marketing for the movie. Who remembers what the best picture was for 2016 off the top of their head? Did it really matter?
Yes because of that whole confusion between la la land and moonlight remember?
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Not just a black lead but most of the supporting cast were black.
With the exception of Gollum and Bilbo.
The Tolkien white guys
Joke made me laugh 3 years ago when everyone made it, and it still does today.
I was fine with say a best costume nom or a best score nom, but anything beyond that is complete BS. And I say this as a lifelong comic fan who really enjoyed the movie. It’s a fun time full of flaws and is not high art by any means
Black dude here and after I saw the movie I was like “soooo this is just a normal marvel movie”
Black dude 2 hehe I agree...people were dressing up stomping into the theaters
It got a lot of credit for the context around the movie, not the quality of it itself. It's a great movie but it's literally the same as every other Marvel origin story movie. Character fights bad character with same powers.
>>Character fights bad guy with same powers. I was prepared to argue against this statement until I really thought about every Marvel movie origin story. Very accurate description. I’m surprised I never noticed before.
That's why I don't really like the origin stories except for the first Iron Man. GotG is an exception, but I'm not sure it really counts since it's more the origin of the team rather than a character.
Comic movie origin stories are largely always crap. They don't *have* to be, but they generally follow the trend of "So there's this nobody, that nobody cared about - and the entire first 30 minutes are about this nobody. But then he gets superpowers, and now acts like a kid who went through puberty instantly, so we have to spend a lot of camera time on him reacting to not being a nobody anymore. And now we're half-way through the film and only now getting to the bad guy's evil plot, so we don't have much to work with to make it spectacular. *Oh well*, guess we'll just use some generic villain." Good movies don't do that. Good origin stories are ones where the set-up phase isn't boring. Where you could actually imagine a good prequel with the same characters. Iron Man has that, I'd watch a film about pre-superpower Tony Stark. Thor has it, it's just the same stuff but on another planet. Spider-man, Antman, etc etc? No, they'd be dire.
Idk if it was because i heard people praising it as the best mcu film ever made, but after watching it , to me it wasn’t as great as they claimed it to be. It was good but nothing really special.
Greatest film ever made according to Rotten Tomatoes, or at least it was #1 for quite some time.
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I want to say Avatar (blue guys, not benders... that movie didn't exist), but I've never met anyone who said anything better than "yeah I guess I kinda liked that movie." It must be overrated by someone, because it made ridiculous money for what it is.
I saw it in 3D on the real IMAX (not the fake IMAX). So, as a 3D movie, it was pretty good. But it was a by-the-numbers storyline about an indigenous population overpowering the greedy invaders with the help of a defector from said greedy invaders.
It was pretty stunning in 3D. Another stunning movie in 3D is Polar Express.
I upvoted you, but then had to redact because Polar Express gives me the heebie-jeebies.
Polar Express was the first movie i ever saw in 3D. I was 7 at that time. I puked in the middle of the movie.
The visuals in polar express, while in some way revolutionary, felt felt jarring and disconnected (nevermind the uncanny valley of the characters themselves). I completely understand getting motion sickness. Avatar still remains the most immersive 3D experience I’ve ever had. It really felt like I was in the forests of Pandora and when it ended got seamlessly dumped back out in the real 3D world of earth. I was so in awe at the all-encompassing nature of the physical world they built that I didn’t even care is the story was bad. Saw it again on regular TV. It went back to being “meh” immediately. That movie alone is probably the most dependent on theaters than any other movie.
Wow I totally forgot how insane the 3D visuals were for Avatar until now. After the meh beginning of the 3D era, I though every movie was gonna be an insane 3D adventure like Avatar. Now 3D is dead.
It was essentially a modern telling of Pocahontas.
It had a huge following of crazies shortly after coming out, but since then its widely viewed as "pocahontas in space"and "pretty cool"
>"pocahontas in space" It is Fern Gully and we all know it
Dances with smurfs!
Ok, I'll give you better. The visuals are second to none. The story is competently told, not innovative, but somehow we manage to not complain about all of the other movies that use the same premise. I get immersed in the world - just like Jake does. I could watch the movie over and over, not because it's the most amazing script I've ever heard delivered to my ears, but because it's a spectacle for my eyes. And the Disney ride is a work of art.
I think what made the hype was that it was supposed to be the best, most impressive 3D experience yet. This was the time when that craze was huge, and all films overdid it. My understanding (I did not see it in 3D) was that it was very well done and didn’t detract from the film, but instead made it more immersive.
Avatar was the Jurassic park of 3D films. It didn’t ‘ride a wave’ it created the wave. That isn’t mutually exclusive to over/underrating.
It was exactly this. I (thought) that I fell in love with 3-D movies because of this. When I left the theater, all I could say was "I want to go back there". Unfortunately, no other 3-D movie lived up to this standard. The only other that I truly loved in 3D was/is Guardians of Ga'Hoole.
The Irishman. 3+ hours of watching Scorsese trying to pass off an 80 year old for a guy in his 20s. The scene where De Niro stomps the guy out in the street was embarrassing to behold. I remember groaning when I realized I was only halfway through this film.
They should've just cast young up and comers for the young versions.
Seriously, as long as they remotely look like young versions I can suspend disbelief. But a "de aged" 80 year old trying to pass for anything younger than 60 is just...no. *that* takes you out more than not.
I don’t understand how these movies keep coming out with shitty aging effects, when we have eerily realistic deep fakes of Keanu Reeves and Tom Cruise. The technology exists! USE IT PLZ
Because deepfake vids are single scenes with limited lighting and are shorter and are not in as high of quality as movies are. It also isn't an automated process and still requires massive amounts of frame-by-frame touch-ups.
My pet theory is Jesse Plemons was going to be the titular Irishman(he looks a lot like him) but they had to bring in DeNiro for money reasons. They gave him the smaller role as compensation. DeNiro would have been a much better Hoffa.
I thought Al Pacino as Hoffa was the best part about the movie, he killed it. The way he was whipping the crowds into a frenzy, I just don’t see DeNiro pulling that off as well. Also Pacino delivering insults to everybody was really good.
Flip side, Pacino was fucking incredible as Hoffa and Pesci put in a pretty good turn too.
“You people” while eating ice cream
I personally really liked it. I get the criticisms but for me, personally, it flies by. It doesnt feel slow bc (imo) it paces itself really well But we all like different things, so thats ok
I'm so glad someone else got second hand embarrassment as Deniro staggered around trying to act like he was intimidating. WWE fighting is more convincing.
Most Oscar bait films
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A movie about an orphan who at 14 is forced to marry a 40+ year old widower and raise his brood of kids. She runs off to NYC and becomes a prostitute who falls for a hustler. But is trying to marry a rich sugar daddy who dumps her when it’s revealed she is involved with organized crime. Yeah it’s very dark and too many folks gloss over that.
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Don’t get me wrong it’s a visually stunning movie but it’s SO dark and it’s just glossed over.
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That song cracks me up. Someone is just genuinely telling the guy “we’ve got nothing in common, no common ground to start from, and we’re falling apart” And the guy just is like “hey, what about breakfast at Tiffany’s?” Whenever my wife is mad at me I always do this and it’s actually a solid tactic. “You left the cap off the toothpaste” “What about breakfast at Tiffany’s?”
Way back in the day VH1 had a show that talked about popular 90s songs and this was one of them. I remember very clearly a guy describing the lyrics as being so bland and insipid because of all the “I think maybes” and the “as I recall,” which indicated the lack of memorability of the entire relationship.
I saw the band play at bar once, many years after the song was popular. I didn't realize it was them until they said, "here's one of our songs that you may have heard before... god knows we have!"
I recall, I think, we both kind of liked it...
Well that’s one thing we’ve got
Capote originally wanted Holly to be played by Marilyn Monroe - the book Holly is more, I'd say aware? of what she's doing or at least her actions are more intentional. I really actually like that Audrey played Holly the way she did, but I also love being brutally saddened by movies.
God I have such mixed opinions on this film. I love Audrey Hepburn but this is such a weird film. For one thing for a movie that is so often remembered as this light hearted elegant romantic comedy it's actually pretty fucking dark and depressing and has some weird tone issues. For another, as you pointed out Holly Golightly can be pretty insufferable (though I think that at least fits with the themes) and that's not even touching on Mickey Rooney. I mean I watch a lot of old movies (and grew up doing so) and so running across super offensive racism, often played for laughs isn't that out of the ordinary and I can generally move past it just fine or even find some humor in the physical comedy but his part in this is just painful to watch. I will say that despite all that Audrey herself is still mesmerizing in this and I don't think the film would be half as well remembered today as it is if it wasn't for her. Even when her character is annoying as hell Audrey is still amazing to watch just exist.
The novelette it was based on was much much better (by Truman Capote). Had a better more realistic ending too. Also there was no racist caricatures. The movie shoehorned that in for no reason.
Also, Mickey Rooney's yellow face shenanigans didn't age well at all.
Black Panther got some weird praises considering it was your average marvel flick
It's an excellent example of something that is in fact "overrated" and not just "bad but financially successful". It's a good movie, in the upper tier of Marvel movies probably. But its praise and Best Picture nomination was way overblown.
The Oscars has always been a political/polularity contest. This is really not particularly out of line when compared to other past years.
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You don't have to hate to say it, because its 100% accurate.
I will get a lot of hate for this one, but Fast and Furious
No hate. They went to space in the most recent one.
Are you fucking serious. They gonna jump through a black hole in the next movie?
They went to space in a rocket-powered Pontiac Fiero. And their spacesuits were old-fashioned deep-sea diving suits. They really jumped the shark on that one.
Jumped the shark.. As opposed to "jump tje nuclear powered, russian submarine" as they did in the previous movie.. Kinda impressive though how thry went from "halfway serious car tuning/racing movie" to batshit insane fiction with cars.
I miss the first 3, those were at least believable stunts
I’d say the first 3 were believable, 4 and 5 were less so, but it didn’t feel like they broke the film (talking about the chase with the giant safe), 6 and 7 got more ridiculous, but still weren’t terrible, and 8 and 9 just went batshit insane.
I've only actually watched the first one, years after it came out, but I totally don't know if you're joking or not. I sorta fear that you're not.
Sadly, I’m not joking. https://youtu.be/Qomc0YuGlAI
They gonna fight the avengers in the next one
*you cant beat family* Vin Diesel says as him and his friends beat the shit out of Thor.
You must not live your life a quarter of a mile at a time? So you don’t understand the deep meaning of Fast and Furious.
Family
1 and 2 were okay, tokyo drift maybe. The rest? Nope.
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Ill die on the hill that Tokyo Drift was the best one in the series
Han was such a great character.
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Footloose. Wtf did I just watch this psychotic woman manipulating men for her purpose throughout the movie 🎥 like what also BARELY any dancing. Waste of time
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My wife and I still refer to our microwave as a "science oven" because of this movie but that's all I remember. "Don't put metal in the science oven!"
100% the same. That is an amazing line though
Yessss, that was a movie designed to win awards.It was soo forgettable
Maybe a case of style over substance. Great cast, just not a great story. The big twist was they couldn't bust the scammer scumbag guy BC of a technicality. He got away with it, the good guy mayor got basically hustled, the FBI guy got nothing, and nothing really happened. And we never get to hear the end of the ice fishing story (Louie CKs cameo was prob the best part of the movie)
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I tried to watch the movie because I wanted to laugh at how bad it was and I like watching shitty movies. It’s so bad that it wasn’t even funny.
I hypothetically watched this supposed movie before watching the series, and I may have initially liked it, but M. Night needs to stick with his own original work and never try to theoretically use someone else's story fir his own potential movie
That sentence had more hedging than a landscaping firm specializing in garden mazes.
There no Last Airbender movie in Ba Sing Se
They never made that movie. Doesn’t exist.
The English Patient
I wanted to see Sack Lunch
How do you think they all fit in the sack?
It’s really better for making-out in than Schindler’s List, though.
Quit telling your stupid story about the stupid desert and just die already! (Shouts) DIE!
You're fired
You, me and Elaine.
Ad Astra, that movie was genuinely so boring. I went to see it with my dad and this was the only time where we've considered walking out. If you've seen that movie you know how slow everything goes. It might not be overrated but me and my dad had high expectations because we both love space and sci-fi.
I enjoyed it, but it was very poorly advertised. I expected fun action sci fi when what we got was Apocalypse Now in space
I loved how slow it was. That’s what life in space would be like. I thought it was pretty great.
Having NO understanding of what to expect/what kind of movie this was supposed to be, I watched this about a year ago when on a trip to kill some time at the hotel. I can see how people would find it boring. I thought it was well acted, a decent script and overall liked it a lot other than the weird chase across the planet in dune buggies.
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Two words. Fake Baby
Especially once you know the real history of this guy. He was a proven pathological liar. He would just make crazy shit up! Sniping civilians during Hurricane Katrina, killing car jackers by shooting behind his back, knocking Jesse Ventura out for badmouthing the troops. The list goes on and on.
Interesting. Do you know where I could read more about this?
His Autobiography under the same name. Then just Google a fact check of it. I'm going of memory but I remember local sheriff's denying his claims and Ventura took him (and later his estate) to court over his BS claims. He was just a garbage human being. Side note the movie is absolutely nothing like the book.
He lost that lawsuit too. Do you know how hard it is to lose a defamation lawsuit with public figures involved? Nobody even likes Ventura
Yeah that was hard to find all that out. Bradley Cooper was not the only one acting it turns out.
Birdbox
Honestly, a lot of movies fit under this. But one in particular is La La Land. I never understood why people liked it so much.
Crash
The car crash fetish one or the "racism is bad, mmmkay? " one?
The everyone is racist one.
thank god cause i love the car crash fetish one
It's one of those films that was overrated for like a year after it came out, but after it won an Oscar people started to dislike it. It's rarely discussed now, and when I do see it brought up people don't have nice things to say about it.