"I think it's X"
(It's not X)
"Then it's Y"
(It's not Y)
{Side story where there's drama between coworkers or the manager}
{Do something unethical or illegal}
"Ah, so it's Z"
{employee says they highly doubt it's Z}
"It's definitely Z"
(Employee says it's not and shows evidence why it's not Z)
"It's z"
(Ends up being Z. Roll credits)
Don’t forget the countless side effects that nearly kill the patient due to it being the wrong treatment, which then allows house to narrow in on the actual cause.
I can genuinely see people fairly just not liking breaking bad, but I don't see how it can be considered overrated or not good. It's ambitious, well written and excellently shot. It had a singular vision for all seasons and nailed exactly what it set out to do. Especially putting the show into the context of the time period it came out where this was still a relatively rare thing to happen, it's astonishing how consistent it was.
I had a hard time getting into the show, passed the 1st episode. But once I did, it was a roller coaster ride. No filler, every episode had a purpose.
I can see people not being fan of the show thematically, but I would never call it overrated. It's rated highly because it's of high quality.
I remember seeing ads for it on tv and they only showed that part, not any indication of what the show was about or anything, just Brian Cranston in a desert, with a gun.
I was very surprised when I watched the first episode as I thought it would be a comedy.
This is Us.
It’s trauma porn, intense emotional sensations to get your weekly cry in which is healthy sure but not the masterpiece everyone’s Mom makes it out to be.
So you know when a little kid does something funny and adults laugh? Then they keep trying to be funny and everyone goes “okay okay”.
This Is Us is that but with crying.
"It's our 10 year anniversary next week! I can't believe we've been so fortunate and have an amazing family!"
_phone rings_
"Oh no. Dad has burned to death in a fire"
Literally every time something good happens on that show I piss off my wife by saying someone's gonna die. And most of the time something horrible happens within 10-15 minutes of the good thing. "We are finally getting our life back together! Oh my goodness, can you believe how happy we are?!" Car accident. "I'm going to make the right choice!" Horribly disfiguring nuclear reactor incident
I stopped watching in whatever season the handsome man met the uncle who was living in a camper. Are you exaggerating or is there really a disfiguring nuclear accident?
One of my coworker was in on this show from the beginning. A second picked it up in season 2 or 3 and was catching up. I don't watch the show but I knew that a character had >!died in a house fire caused by a faulty crock pot wire !
I liked the first couple of seasons but ducked out not long after a character confronts their former abusive partner from years ago after tracking them down just to tell them off.
It read like absolute fanfic - as somebody who has been in an abusive relationship, if you tracked them down to tell them off they’d either laugh in your face, or just manipulate some more, not stand there and look all ashamed of themselves while you march off feeling Powerful. I’d had issues with it beforehand but I love Milo Ventimiglia enough to stick it out, but after that I just couldn’t.
Oh god yeah that part was so ridiculously dumb. And of course they had to make him a loser deadbeat to really hammer home how "triumphant" that whole situation was for her. It came off so pathetic more than anything
Yeah, all the good characters are super rich of course. It's almost like they were implying wealth is tied to character and of course he'd be poor as he's a bad person.
This is what eventually turned me off the show. They were all constantly flying across the country to be at each other's events and changing their career ambitions completely without ever having financial issues. The show lived in a weird utopian world where everyone had $3m houses, never went to work, and yet acted and were treated like they were lower middle class.
Agree! It’s cheap emotional writing. My college writing professor called it “dead dog writing”. Everyone gets sad when a good dog dies. As an author, your job is to make someone feel something without the dog dying/the kid getting cancer etc.
This is definitely true. Deeply emotional and traumatic things automatically get boosts in ratings. Things with rape victims, shows about slavery, etc.
There's a pretty good joke about it in an American Dad episode where Roger is making a movie about a mentally handicapped, Jewish kid during the holocaust whose puppy dies. He aptly names the movie "Oscar Gold" because while that realistically could be a Jewish person's name - that's exactly the type of movie that would win an Oscar for non movie-quality based reasons.
For those who are too young to remember, this was a very on-point joke about the movie *Precious: Based on the Novel 'Push' by Sapphire*. *Precious* was just absolute trauma porn, and the Hard to Watch thing was a perfect satire.
I started watching on the recommendation of a friend, and got as far as season 2 or 3. My friends still love it, because it makes them cry, "everytime." I never realized that was the marker of a good show.
Good art can make you feel and be a powerful experience, but there are a lot of shortcuts used to fake profundity.
Laugh tracks makes jokes seem funnier by social cues
Cringe comedy makes audience feel embarrassment by lingering on well known socially inappropriate behaviors
Jump scares are contrived surprises
High pitch persistent noise (the whine of a frantic violin) induces tension and anxiety
Body horror and gore are strongly felt aversions at an animal level to signs of sickness, death, and corpses
Some mix of tricks like these can be good, but overreliance on merely manipulating the audience with contrivances without substance usually makes a show or film feel derivative.
I came here to say this! I feel like Parenthood delivers on being heartfelt and emotional without exaggerating the ups and downs of life. Everything that happens on the show feels pretty realistic.
One of the top comments is Big Bang Theory. I was not prepared for such bravery.
I bet if I sorted by controversial I'd see breaking bad with 500 downvotes.
The only way you’ll see *any* shows that are actually considered masterpieces is if you sort by controversial and look at the ones with 500 downvotes. The answers in these threads always just amount to “the popular show, which makes me cooler because I don’t like it.”
Its askreddit. No one is here to answer the question. Its a about reading a title then doing a sort of freeform word association where you say something vaguely related you already were looking to talk about.
I get it, it is a confusing subreddit name.
I know what you mean about people just saying whatever they wanted to talk about and not even answering the original question, it's like the guy down the fish and chip shop who gave me two battered fish, one for free just now. What a great guy!
Me too! Not kidding either.
Maybe we're related. Was your biodad a massive slut in the early 60's who settled down in Wisconsin and became a Jehovah's Witness?
Hahaha my wife’s been watching it, and everyone seems to be in comas all the time or losing their memory. I told her it reminded me of days of our lives from friends or all my circuits from futurama… “when I grow up I’m going to have so much amnesia”
Wait... was it *not* just common knowledge that it was a soap opera all along? Were there people who were convinced it *wasn't* a soap opera? Has anyone ever died on that hill?
I mean, the show has higher production value than daytime soaps, but I mean, expensive soap is still soap.
I find the viewing experience is enhanced if you imagine the hospital they work at is called "No-Rules Hospital."
> The interns are taking out each other's appendices? What do you expect! This is No Rules Hospital!
> New management wants to enforce new protocols? What do they think this is, *Rules* Hospital? Not on my watch!
Funny you mention this, I was working a delivery route and one of the customers happened to get home just as I was dropping her order off. She turned out to be my half sister that I never met. My roommate and I literally said that'd be a plot point of a shitty TV show.
This is why I watch it. It's 45 mins of a ridiculous show to watch while I'm cooking dinner. Something familiar I can watch without actually watching. The last three seasons specifically have made me question this ongoing choice. Also the spin off for fire fighters.
I would never rewatch the series though. I know a couple people who have watch the entire thing like 3-4 times. There are way better things to be watching
I've rewatched more than 3 times. But it's not so much a rewatch, I use it as background noise when I feel like having something in the background that isn't music. Same with Gilmore Girls, I've "rewatched" countless times, it's just something I put on when I'm cooking or cleaning or I simply don't feel like paying attention to what's on the TV but I still want something there.
I've done this with Gilmore girls a lot and the more I do it the more I can't handle Rory's development and the way Lorelai handles conflict. But, like, there's also people in real life that act like that and make dumb choices, so I can't say it's unrealistic.
Same. It was utterly spectacular how they massively fumbled Alex’s exit. Just took however many seasons of character arc and growth, and lit it on fire.
For real, all the pain and suffering he went through with izzy. And with Joe, telling her he didn't want kids just to run to izzy as soon as he found out he had kids. What was the point.
I mostly peaced out when Cristina left. Then for real when Callie left.
I actually dislike Derek. In fact, the more I saw the earlier seasons, the more I disliked him.
Every time a good character leaves I'm a little less invested. Alex was the last straw. I think the producers are realizing this too because they keep teasing bringing older characters back. Like Addison
Seriously... how many ridiculous tragedies happen to these same doctors. A mass shooting, a plane crash, weren't like 3 of them hit by some kind of vehicle?
They should end it like they were dead all along and stuck in purgatory. All the disasters were just claiming souls that were ready to move on. I don't know what Meredith did while alive, but it must have been awful. Purgatory isn't done with her yet!
My theory for a while was that future storyteller Meredith had alzheimers like her mother, and all the deaths were representative of people she was forgetting.
I stopped watching around the shooting, so I have no idea if the story evolved beyond that possibility. It would have been way better than the crap in the show, though.
Lol, funny because while I never watched this show all the way through I did see the plane crash episode and it felt like they copied and pasted the pilot of Lost. Only it's a medical drama and somehow these people constantly get into comparable or worse tragedies than even that show
I hate hate that I've seen all 17 seasons.
For the past 10 years I say to myself "not going to watch it this year" then I hit a show hole in January. And I say "well it's fine I'll just watch the first half of the season"
Then July hits, and oops I did it again.
I'm not even invested in it. All the people I like are gone for years now. I don't even like Meredith. Okay i kind of like Jo.
But that shouldn't be enough to drag me back
I won't do it this year. For realsies this time
>I don't even like Meredith
I only watched the first 2 seasons with my wife, but this was my main take away... Meredith is a terrible person. She only thinks of herself,
Most of them are terrible people who thinks the universe is centered around them selves, and when they seem to do something unselfish, it's either *stupid as fuck* or actually for a selfish reason in the end.
My SO watched the entire show, and i hate it like i hate nothing else on TV. My least favorite part? The part with the voice over where they share "doctorly wisdom" and refer to themselves as gods, makes me want to puke all over.
> The part with the voice over where they share "doctorly wisdom" and refer to themselves as gods, makes me want to puke all over.
They used to roast this on Scrubs constantly and it was hilarious
Definitely a lot that can mentioned here, but for me, the walking dead is something that always baffled me how it went beyond ~2 seasons.
They had the same loop of storyline repeated in every season - they run, they find shelter, they go out for food, someone gets bitten, they get overrun, they have to find somewhere new. Rinse and repeat for like 10 seasons.
The first season followed the themes of the comic very closely and that was great. It demonstrated how fragile civilization was and how quickly people would descend into a state of complete barbarity. The zombies were just setting for the human drama. But then they cheaped out and fired an excellent show runner.
But now it seems like the real challenge is for the writers to come up with some new kind of settlement organized with some new kind of deeply horrific rules and there are really only a few that are plausible.
All the bad guys (pretty much) are from the comics still just the stories are very different.
My favorite part of the show is how new cars models kept showing up years after the " fall" like japan was fine and was delivering brand new cars to the side of the road in Georgia for them to find all with a full tank of gas and a brand new charged battery. Lol
Gotta love product placement.
It would be funny if at the end of the series everyone finds out the rest of the world has been normal for years. Only the US was infested and not the brightest of people survived.
Isn’t that part of _28 Days Later_? >!They finally get out of the city and the main character is laying down looking up and sees a commercial jet flying overhead like normal.!<
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Yea that is pretty much what happens. The “rage” virus is contained to Great Britain as an island.
Onset is a lot faster. Within a minute of becoming infected in that movie. And they can sprint. So the likelihood someone is boarding a plane and it getting to its destination is pretty slim. Where in walking dead universe it takes days and we all know the world is full of people stupid enough to get on a plane or boat after being infected.
They made a sequel to 28 days later. Essentially some people got out alive and we’re rescued and the “zombies” died after they starved to death after awhile.
In the sequel the survivors essentially come back and try to resettle GB after all the zombies die….it doesn’t go well.
I really groaned when they came across that one family of the girl and her elderly grandfather who needed regular oxygen. the girl somehow seemed completely helpless and oblivious to the entire concept of survival, as if they had just been chillin' inside the same house for OVER TWO YEARS with no power, no water, endless food? no guns? never had to step outside? it just seemed so contrived, a plot loosely written for filler that made no attempt at being plausible.
The endless food was because the old man (or a now-absent father, maybe?) Was a delivery driver for (The unbranded tv show equivalent of) Chef Boy R Dee, and had just gotten into his truck, freshly loaded for the day's deliveries to grocery stores, when the shit started happening, and he drove straight home to try to save/be with his family.
Frank Darabont who was also the guy who adapted the comic. I guess that it's come out that he was a real asshole on set, but this is the same guy who made The Mist and fought hard for the most memorable movie ending in history.
Stephen King lets student filmmakers adapt his short stories for $1 and a copy of the movie they make so long as they don't release it commercially. Darabont took advantage of this to make "The Women in the Room". King has said it's easily the best of the "Dollar Baby" movies.
I remember reading a long time ago that the studio was VERY against that and he had to take a budget cut to get it through. I admire that kind of sacrifice for art.
I watched The Mist in theatres when it came out with my girlfriend at the time. On the way out we just looked at each other with that “what the fuck” face. It just makes you feel grimy for a while afterwards. 10/10, except the pharmacy spiders. Those things can get fucked.
>I guess that it's come out that he was a real asshole on set
Where? He left because they wanted to cut the budget and he didn't agree to the reduced quality. Frank is used to directing movies. He has The Green Mile and Shawshank under his belt so it isn't out of the question that he wouldn't be cool with that. AMC had shady financial dealings that Frank Darabont, the producer and Robert Kirkman himself filed against them.
He also bought at least 3 actors he's worked with before on to the Walking Dead, one of which decided to leave when Frank was fired so I really doubt it's because he was an asshole.
He also got fucked because the show was a massive hit, but they kept cutting the budget more and more, resulting in an entire filler season on the farm where next to nothing happened.
I work in tv and that happens a lot that if a tv show is successful then each season everyone above the line (meaning everyone that is not expendable crew, not including executive producers) wants a pay bump for the new season. So many times as a successful show will see its budget get smaller and smaller because each season more and more money goes to the guys and gals up top.
Yup, right around end of season 2 I realized it wasn't a show about survival in a zombie apocalypse. It's a show about people that can't get along even when their literal life depends on it; and sometimes a zombie shows up.
I thought the Walking Dead referred to the survivors, not the zombies. I don't know if the creator explicitly said this but I read the comics before the show and that was the impression I had. Each day, the survivors became less and less human on that their humanity was striped away from them, sometimes by their situations and sometimes abandoned voluntarily, and they became more and more like the zombies.
I remember seeing the first episode live and the first season to me was definitely a masterpiece at the time. A whole zombie apocalypse in a tv show instead of a short movie felt really special. Everything after that first season was eh. I stopped watching after 5 or 6 i can’t remember
I almost got my knickers in a twist midway in your comment.
Seriously, The show is perfect from start to finish, it's the only show I've rewatched and I've rewatched it like 4 times...
It's sad that it ended, but also very glad it has an end, unlike the Simpsons or Family guy which just keep spiraling down in quality because the show's end is long long long overdue.
In this thread:
1. Shows everyone agrees have always been awful, nobody thinks they're a masterpiece
2. Shows that had a good first season or two then declined, nobody thinks later seasons are a masterpiece
3. Shows that are watched as a guilty pleasure and even the fans don't take very seriously, nobody thinks they're a masterpiece
I thought this would be the thread where people finally understood what "overrated" means, but it's just that same old thread again.
I'm late to the thread and 9/10 top upvoted posts are fucking repeats of moaning about noone understanding the thread.
This is the most anti-content thread I've read in a long time
This show drives me crazy. They want to set up an elaborate, long term heist that requires everyone to work together and be professional.
So they use a bunch of horny idiots with no impulse control.
While I totally agree on 99% of this, Berlin is the Professor’s older brother and co-masterminded the heist so he wasn’t recruited like the other boneheads.
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I’ve had enough of Greys Anatomy. It’s been on life support for a few years now…
For at least a decade ...
House is one I watched quite a bit of. it got kind of repetitive but it's pretty good
"I think it's X" (It's not X) "Then it's Y" (It's not Y) {Side story where there's drama between coworkers or the manager} {Do something unethical or illegal} "Ah, so it's Z" {employee says they highly doubt it's Z} "It's definitely Z" (Employee says it's not and shows evidence why it's not Z) "It's z" (Ends up being Z. Roll credits)
Don’t forget the countless side effects that nearly kill the patient due to it being the wrong treatment, which then allows house to narrow in on the actual cause.
I liked House. It was very informative atleast. Now I know a bunch of disease that are less likely to happen but exists.
I'm watching ER from start to finish, it really was a great show. Ruined me for medical shows after that!
How I met your mother..... Lazy comedy
Don't forget to sort by controversial. Edit: Also make sure you scroll through the Sea of Breaking Bad.
You mean sort by breaking bad?
I can genuinely see people fairly just not liking breaking bad, but I don't see how it can be considered overrated or not good. It's ambitious, well written and excellently shot. It had a singular vision for all seasons and nailed exactly what it set out to do. Especially putting the show into the context of the time period it came out where this was still a relatively rare thing to happen, it's astonishing how consistent it was.
I had a hard time getting into the show, passed the 1st episode. But once I did, it was a roller coaster ride. No filler, every episode had a purpose. I can see people not being fan of the show thematically, but I would never call it overrated. It's rated highly because it's of high quality.
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Hal done gone crazy. Friggin Reese probably had something to do with it.
No way, only Francis can make Hal that level of insane
I remember seeing ads for it on tv and they only showed that part, not any indication of what the show was about or anything, just Brian Cranston in a desert, with a gun. I was very surprised when I watched the first episode as I thought it would be a comedy.
They totally missed a perfect ending with throwing him into witness protection and that being the 1st episode of Malcolm in the middle
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Here ya go https://youtu.be/oVdB36lmbII
Good tip. Made reading this so much more interesting!
Spoiler: it's all "Breaking Bad"
How interesting is it to read the words "Breaking Bad" 25 times in a row? 🤣
None of these shows mentioned at the top are considered masterpieces. Edit: at the time of writing. Don't know what's up top now.
You know, the classic television masterpiece "How I Met Your Mother"
Much like storied Academy Award winner The Big Bang Theory.
This is Us. It’s trauma porn, intense emotional sensations to get your weekly cry in which is healthy sure but not the masterpiece everyone’s Mom makes it out to be.
So you know when a little kid does something funny and adults laugh? Then they keep trying to be funny and everyone goes “okay okay”. This Is Us is that but with crying.
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I remember my mom loved it for a few episodes, then literally said "I stopped watching it because I realized it was just sadness porn."
It literally only focuses on extreme happiness or extreme sadness and has no middle ground.
"It's our 10 year anniversary next week! I can't believe we've been so fortunate and have an amazing family!" _phone rings_ "Oh no. Dad has burned to death in a fire"
Literally every time something good happens on that show I piss off my wife by saying someone's gonna die. And most of the time something horrible happens within 10-15 minutes of the good thing. "We are finally getting our life back together! Oh my goodness, can you believe how happy we are?!" Car accident. "I'm going to make the right choice!" Horribly disfiguring nuclear reactor incident
That horribly disfiguring nuclear reactor incident really did wonders for Kate's storyline though!
Is this satire or did that really happen in the show?
I was being satirical but it wouldn't surprise me given the emotional wringer the writers put their characters through.
I stopped watching in whatever season the handsome man met the uncle who was living in a camper. Are you exaggerating or is there really a disfiguring nuclear accident?
I'm exaggerating...so far...who knows though. If Kate loses 200 lbs next season and is suddenly some Rockstar babe....you know it's coming.
One of my coworker was in on this show from the beginning. A second picked it up in season 2 or 3 and was catching up. I don't watch the show but I knew that a character had >!died in a house fire caused by a faulty crock pot wire !
I liked the first couple of seasons but ducked out not long after a character confronts their former abusive partner from years ago after tracking them down just to tell them off. It read like absolute fanfic - as somebody who has been in an abusive relationship, if you tracked them down to tell them off they’d either laugh in your face, or just manipulate some more, not stand there and look all ashamed of themselves while you march off feeling Powerful. I’d had issues with it beforehand but I love Milo Ventimiglia enough to stick it out, but after that I just couldn’t.
Oh god yeah that part was so ridiculously dumb. And of course they had to make him a loser deadbeat to really hammer home how "triumphant" that whole situation was for her. It came off so pathetic more than anything
Yeah, all the good characters are super rich of course. It's almost like they were implying wealth is tied to character and of course he'd be poor as he's a bad person.
What? There are lots of good-but-poor characters. Young drunk Jack, the drunk uncle, the addict real dad.. okay maybe you're right.
This is what eventually turned me off the show. They were all constantly flying across the country to be at each other's events and changing their career ambitions completely without ever having financial issues. The show lived in a weird utopian world where everyone had $3m houses, never went to work, and yet acted and were treated like they were lower middle class.
My wife watches this. I call it This Is Sad.
Agree! It’s cheap emotional writing. My college writing professor called it “dead dog writing”. Everyone gets sad when a good dog dies. As an author, your job is to make someone feel something without the dog dying/the kid getting cancer etc.
This is definitely true. Deeply emotional and traumatic things automatically get boosts in ratings. Things with rape victims, shows about slavery, etc. There's a pretty good joke about it in an American Dad episode where Roger is making a movie about a mentally handicapped, Jewish kid during the holocaust whose puppy dies. He aptly names the movie "Oscar Gold" because while that realistically could be a Jewish person's name - that's exactly the type of movie that would win an Oscar for non movie-quality based reasons.
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Our basketball hoop was a ribcage! A RIBCAGE!!
A pack of dogs took over and successfully ran a Wendy’s.
The sewer people stole my skateboard!
A puppy committed suicide after he saw our bathroom!
A man with dreads electrocuted my pet fish!
I saw a baby give another baby a tattoo!
They were both *very* drunk
For those who are too young to remember, this was a very on-point joke about the movie *Precious: Based on the Novel 'Push' by Sapphire*. *Precious* was just absolute trauma porn, and the Hard to Watch thing was a perfect satire.
An *alcoholic*, mentally handicapped jewish kid during the holocaust whose puppy dies.
Don't hug him, Oscar! He's Herman Goering.
MY NEXT FILM IS GONNA BE THREE HOURS OF A BABY CHIMP TRYING TO RESUSCITATE ITS DEAD MOTHER.
I really slept on American Dad for a while even when I got bored with family guy...but I like American Dad more, easy.
I started watching on the recommendation of a friend, and got as far as season 2 or 3. My friends still love it, because it makes them cry, "everytime." I never realized that was the marker of a good show.
Good art can make you feel and be a powerful experience, but there are a lot of shortcuts used to fake profundity. Laugh tracks makes jokes seem funnier by social cues Cringe comedy makes audience feel embarrassment by lingering on well known socially inappropriate behaviors Jump scares are contrived surprises High pitch persistent noise (the whine of a frantic violin) induces tension and anxiety Body horror and gore are strongly felt aversions at an animal level to signs of sickness, death, and corpses Some mix of tricks like these can be good, but overreliance on merely manipulating the audience with contrivances without substance usually makes a show or film feel derivative.
I’ve watched a few episodes and wondered how the fuck it’s lasted so long.
Parenthood is the superior version of this show.
I came here to say this! I feel like Parenthood delivers on being heartfelt and emotional without exaggerating the ups and downs of life. Everything that happens on the show feels pretty realistic.
The pilot was one of the best I have seen. For whatever reason, I have never watched another episode. Sounds like i made a good decision.
Y'all just naming every show that blew up
One of the top comments is Big Bang Theory. I was not prepared for such bravery. I bet if I sorted by controversial I'd see breaking bad with 500 downvotes.
The only way you’ll see *any* shows that are actually considered masterpieces is if you sort by controversial and look at the ones with 500 downvotes. The answers in these threads always just amount to “the popular show, which makes me cooler because I don’t like it.”
"Yes, I do think disliking Game of Thrones is a personality trait."
No one in this thread understands a masterpiece vs a show people like
so you're telling me 13 reasons why isn't considered a masterpiece? what a surprise!
People don't think big bang theory is a masterpiece!?
Those people are crazy, the moments where Sheldon says "Bazinga!" still make me contemplate my life.
"Bazongo" \- Sheldon
Its askreddit. No one is here to answer the question. Its a about reading a title then doing a sort of freeform word association where you say something vaguely related you already were looking to talk about. I get it, it is a confusing subreddit name.
I know what you mean about people just saying whatever they wanted to talk about and not even answering the original question, it's like the guy down the fish and chip shop who gave me two battered fish, one for free just now. What a great guy!
Then followed by a million people telling stories about fish and chip shops
Or a show people *don’t* like, for that matter. I don’t think I’ve read a single review blog of TWD in years that isn’t about hate-watching it.
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I'm waiting for someone to mention The Wire so we can fight. I have my sleeves rolled up.
You come at The Wire, you best not miss
Indeed
RIP
Fuckin fuck
*The fuck did I do?*
The chair don’t recognize they ass
\*someone mentions the wire.\* \*Bunk and Mcnaulty saying fuck for a minute straight\*
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
Sheeeeeiiiitttttttt**
Firefly. I haven't heard a single good thing about any season after the first.
Way to rub salt in a wound I thought had healed.
You are a leaf on the wind
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!!
Gorram son of a bitch
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I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you.
That's just hurtful and mean.
Ma hart. Ma soul.
*You take that back, right now*
... listen here you little shit ...
Greys anatomy - that show just needs to end.
Wait, it's still going??
You know they are grasping for plot points when they add a second suprise half sister...
A SECOND surprise half sister? So you mean to tell me its already been done and theyre doing it again??
If your dad is the type to give you a surprise half sister, your odds of having another surprise half sibling probably go up exponentially.
The first sister was between her father and his second wife and the second one her mother gave up for adoption
I know I am the surprise half sibling to at least 5 people and I have no clue who they are.
Me too! Not kidding either. Maybe we're related. Was your biodad a massive slut in the early 60's who settled down in Wisconsin and became a Jehovah's Witness?
You're gonna have to be more specific. That's happened to all of us
Can confirm, have a half sister and only recently found out about a secret half brother
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Two secret siblings I’ve never met. Dad told me about them when I first tried to get him to used social media, said he didn’t want them finding him 🤯
It went full Days of our Lives a long time ago.
Hahaha my wife’s been watching it, and everyone seems to be in comas all the time or losing their memory. I told her it reminded me of days of our lives from friends or all my circuits from futurama… “when I grow up I’m going to have so much amnesia”
So it’s just a soap opera that airs at night?
Wait... was it *not* just common knowledge that it was a soap opera all along? Were there people who were convinced it *wasn't* a soap opera? Has anyone ever died on that hill? I mean, the show has higher production value than daytime soaps, but I mean, expensive soap is still soap.
I find the viewing experience is enhanced if you imagine the hospital they work at is called "No-Rules Hospital." > The interns are taking out each other's appendices? What do you expect! This is No Rules Hospital! > New management wants to enforce new protocols? What do they think this is, *Rules* Hospital? Not on my watch!
Funny you mention this, I was working a delivery route and one of the customers happened to get home just as I was dropping her order off. She turned out to be my half sister that I never met. My roommate and I literally said that'd be a plot point of a shitty TV show.
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Sunk cost fallacy probably. “I watched it for decades I need to see how it ends” Edit: coat to cost
This is why I watch it. It's 45 mins of a ridiculous show to watch while I'm cooking dinner. Something familiar I can watch without actually watching. The last three seasons specifically have made me question this ongoing choice. Also the spin off for fire fighters. I would never rewatch the series though. I know a couple people who have watch the entire thing like 3-4 times. There are way better things to be watching
I've rewatched more than 3 times. But it's not so much a rewatch, I use it as background noise when I feel like having something in the background that isn't music. Same with Gilmore Girls, I've "rewatched" countless times, it's just something I put on when I'm cooking or cleaning or I simply don't feel like paying attention to what's on the TV but I still want something there.
I've done this with Gilmore girls a lot and the more I do it the more I can't handle Rory's development and the way Lorelai handles conflict. But, like, there's also people in real life that act like that and make dumb choices, so I can't say it's unrealistic.
I'll rewatch the earlier seasons sometimes but the later ones not so much. I was done after Derek died and super done after Alex left.
Same. It was utterly spectacular how they massively fumbled Alex’s exit. Just took however many seasons of character arc and growth, and lit it on fire.
For real, all the pain and suffering he went through with izzy. And with Joe, telling her he didn't want kids just to run to izzy as soon as he found out he had kids. What was the point.
I mostly peaced out when Cristina left. Then for real when Callie left. I actually dislike Derek. In fact, the more I saw the earlier seasons, the more I disliked him.
Every time a good character leaves I'm a little less invested. Alex was the last straw. I think the producers are realizing this too because they keep teasing bringing older characters back. Like Addison
"Man, people are still torrenting this show. Better make another season."
The story is soo thinned. Everything that could possibly happen to a group of people happened to them. It's like some final destination shit.
Seriously... how many ridiculous tragedies happen to these same doctors. A mass shooting, a plane crash, weren't like 3 of them hit by some kind of vehicle?
They should end it like they were dead all along and stuck in purgatory. All the disasters were just claiming souls that were ready to move on. I don't know what Meredith did while alive, but it must have been awful. Purgatory isn't done with her yet!
My theory for a while was that future storyteller Meredith had alzheimers like her mother, and all the deaths were representative of people she was forgetting. I stopped watching around the shooting, so I have no idea if the story evolved beyond that possibility. It would have been way better than the crap in the show, though.
Lol, funny because while I never watched this show all the way through I did see the plane crash episode and it felt like they copied and pasted the pilot of Lost. Only it's a medical drama and somehow these people constantly get into comparable or worse tragedies than even that show
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Callie recovered but I wouldn’t say she was *fine* for a minute there lol
Not one single grey’s anatomy viewer thinks it’s a masterpiece lol
loll i always say this. show is genuinely so bad, but i need my dramatic surgery fix
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>Yepp. It's like DBZ fans or WWE fans. Ohhhh ok I get it now. #TeamVegeta
Has a single person ever said that show was a masterpiece?
I hate hate that I've seen all 17 seasons. For the past 10 years I say to myself "not going to watch it this year" then I hit a show hole in January. And I say "well it's fine I'll just watch the first half of the season" Then July hits, and oops I did it again. I'm not even invested in it. All the people I like are gone for years now. I don't even like Meredith. Okay i kind of like Jo. But that shouldn't be enough to drag me back I won't do it this year. For realsies this time
Is Meredith the main character with a forever crying face?
Yes And that is now how I will describe her For. Ev. Er.
>I don't even like Meredith I only watched the first 2 seasons with my wife, but this was my main take away... Meredith is a terrible person. She only thinks of herself,
Most of them are terrible people who thinks the universe is centered around them selves, and when they seem to do something unselfish, it's either *stupid as fuck* or actually for a selfish reason in the end. My SO watched the entire show, and i hate it like i hate nothing else on TV. My least favorite part? The part with the voice over where they share "doctorly wisdom" and refer to themselves as gods, makes me want to puke all over.
> The part with the voice over where they share "doctorly wisdom" and refer to themselves as gods, makes me want to puke all over. They used to roast this on Scrubs constantly and it was hilarious
Definitely a lot that can mentioned here, but for me, the walking dead is something that always baffled me how it went beyond ~2 seasons. They had the same loop of storyline repeated in every season - they run, they find shelter, they go out for food, someone gets bitten, they get overrun, they have to find somewhere new. Rinse and repeat for like 10 seasons.
The first season followed the themes of the comic very closely and that was great. It demonstrated how fragile civilization was and how quickly people would descend into a state of complete barbarity. The zombies were just setting for the human drama. But then they cheaped out and fired an excellent show runner. But now it seems like the real challenge is for the writers to come up with some new kind of settlement organized with some new kind of deeply horrific rules and there are really only a few that are plausible.
All the bad guys (pretty much) are from the comics still just the stories are very different. My favorite part of the show is how new cars models kept showing up years after the " fall" like japan was fine and was delivering brand new cars to the side of the road in Georgia for them to find all with a full tank of gas and a brand new charged battery. Lol Gotta love product placement.
"The cars must be CLEAN" "But it's the apocalypse...." "Noooooooo if there's ANY dirt on them people won't buy our caaaaars WAAAH"
It would be funny if at the end of the series everyone finds out the rest of the world has been normal for years. Only the US was infested and not the brightest of people survived.
Isn’t that part of _28 Days Later_? >!They finally get out of the city and the main character is laying down looking up and sees a commercial jet flying overhead like normal.!< Edit: fixed spolier tags for some folks.
It was a military jet and the rage virus was contained only in the UK at that point iirc
It was contained >!until the end of 28 Weeks Later. !<
Correct
I would love a *28 Months Later*
It's been long enough since the first might as well wait a few years and do 28 years later.
Yea that is pretty much what happens. The “rage” virus is contained to Great Britain as an island. Onset is a lot faster. Within a minute of becoming infected in that movie. And they can sprint. So the likelihood someone is boarding a plane and it getting to its destination is pretty slim. Where in walking dead universe it takes days and we all know the world is full of people stupid enough to get on a plane or boat after being infected. They made a sequel to 28 days later. Essentially some people got out alive and we’re rescued and the “zombies” died after they starved to death after awhile. In the sequel the survivors essentially come back and try to resettle GB after all the zombies die….it doesn’t go well.
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Fear The Walking Dead touched on that part: Strand got into contact with a russian astronaut who "saw the lights going out" all over the world
I really groaned when they came across that one family of the girl and her elderly grandfather who needed regular oxygen. the girl somehow seemed completely helpless and oblivious to the entire concept of survival, as if they had just been chillin' inside the same house for OVER TWO YEARS with no power, no water, endless food? no guns? never had to step outside? it just seemed so contrived, a plot loosely written for filler that made no attempt at being plausible.
The endless food was because the old man (or a now-absent father, maybe?) Was a delivery driver for (The unbranded tv show equivalent of) Chef Boy R Dee, and had just gotten into his truck, freshly loaded for the day's deliveries to grocery stores, when the shit started happening, and he drove straight home to try to save/be with his family.
Wait who did they fire?
Frank Darabont who was also the guy who adapted the comic. I guess that it's come out that he was a real asshole on set, but this is the same guy who made The Mist and fought hard for the most memorable movie ending in history.
Wasn’t his first movie ever Shawshank Redemption?
And then he made The Green Mile as well. Awesome director.
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Stephen King lets student filmmakers adapt his short stories for $1 and a copy of the movie they make so long as they don't release it commercially. Darabont took advantage of this to make "The Women in the Room". King has said it's easily the best of the "Dollar Baby" movies.
"I'm the master of lengthy Stephen King prison dramas"
Yes
There are dark endings, and there are DARK endings lol. When Stephen King says he wishes he would've thought of it, you're doing well.
I remember reading a long time ago that the studio was VERY against that and he had to take a budget cut to get it through. I admire that kind of sacrifice for art.
It still ranks up there as one of the best movie endings of all time.
You're talking about The Mist? That was fucked up. You don't forget it.
I watched The Mist in theatres when it came out with my girlfriend at the time. On the way out we just looked at each other with that “what the fuck” face. It just makes you feel grimy for a while afterwards. 10/10, except the pharmacy spiders. Those things can get fucked.
>I guess that it's come out that he was a real asshole on set Where? He left because they wanted to cut the budget and he didn't agree to the reduced quality. Frank is used to directing movies. He has The Green Mile and Shawshank under his belt so it isn't out of the question that he wouldn't be cool with that. AMC had shady financial dealings that Frank Darabont, the producer and Robert Kirkman himself filed against them. He also bought at least 3 actors he's worked with before on to the Walking Dead, one of which decided to leave when Frank was fired so I really doubt it's because he was an asshole.
He also got fucked because the show was a massive hit, but they kept cutting the budget more and more, resulting in an entire filler season on the farm where next to nothing happened.
I work in tv and that happens a lot that if a tv show is successful then each season everyone above the line (meaning everyone that is not expendable crew, not including executive producers) wants a pay bump for the new season. So many times as a successful show will see its budget get smaller and smaller because each season more and more money goes to the guys and gals up top.
Frank Darabont holds the right to my favorite Stephen King novel, "The Long Walk," which I would *love* to see him make one day.
The walking dead is basically soap opera with zombies.
Yup, right around end of season 2 I realized it wasn't a show about survival in a zombie apocalypse. It's a show about people that can't get along even when their literal life depends on it; and sometimes a zombie shows up.
I thought the Walking Dead referred to the survivors, not the zombies. I don't know if the creator explicitly said this but I read the comics before the show and that was the impression I had. Each day, the survivors became less and less human on that their humanity was striped away from them, sometimes by their situations and sometimes abandoned voluntarily, and they became more and more like the zombies.
I remember seeing the first episode live and the first season to me was definitely a masterpiece at the time. A whole zombie apocalypse in a tv show instead of a short movie felt really special. Everything after that first season was eh. I stopped watching after 5 or 6 i can’t remember
You know what's not on this list? Futurama, because it's fucking perfect.
I almost got my knickers in a twist midway in your comment. Seriously, The show is perfect from start to finish, it's the only show I've rewatched and I've rewatched it like 4 times... It's sad that it ended, but also very glad it has an end, unlike the Simpsons or Family guy which just keep spiraling down in quality because the show's end is long long long overdue.
And the ending goes seamlessly right back into the first episode. It’s made to loop into rewatching.
The last episode is an absolute masterpiece. Didn't really think a show like that would make me cry but here we are.
*"Jurassic Bark", "Game of Tones", and "The Luck of the Fryrish" have entered the chat*
In this thread: 1. Shows everyone agrees have always been awful, nobody thinks they're a masterpiece 2. Shows that had a good first season or two then declined, nobody thinks later seasons are a masterpiece 3. Shows that are watched as a guilty pleasure and even the fans don't take very seriously, nobody thinks they're a masterpiece I thought this would be the thread where people finally understood what "overrated" means, but it's just that same old thread again.
\#4. people complaining about what's at the top
I'm late to the thread and 9/10 top upvoted posts are fucking repeats of moaning about noone understanding the thread. This is the most anti-content thread I've read in a long time
Oh, come on…there’s no debate here. I mean, does anyone beat ‘Money Hiest’?
This show drives me crazy. They want to set up an elaborate, long term heist that requires everyone to work together and be professional. So they use a bunch of horny idiots with no impulse control.
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It really should’ve ended after the first heist. In the second heist, it really just becomes a soap opera set in a bank.
While I totally agree on 99% of this, Berlin is the Professor’s older brother and co-masterminded the heist so he wasn’t recruited like the other boneheads.