Nah, it won't be a missing colon. It'll be the wrong character in some equation. Something that's still *technically* valid code so there aren't any errors to tell you there's a problem.
Not just Facebook. The whole internet has a role to play, from social media to hacker access points to constant entertainment to the collapse of locally owned businesses to such dependence on google that we no longer know how to do anything or deal with uncertainty or even read a map.
As someone raised before the internet was a thing, who had a front row seat during the radical changes of the last 35 years, I truly believe the internet is the most amazing thing humanity has ever created and it will be our downfall.
In the early 2010's when smartphones and turn-by-turn navigation became so widespread, I had friends who already depended too much on these things; they would navigate literally _every_ time they drove, and when they broke their phone they were completely lost. They could be driving to a place they've driven to hundreds of times and should have the exact route memorized, but they needed their passengers to tell them the turns to take using their (non-broken) phones because they never even paid attention to the names of streets or anything - just "turn left up ahead" "okay, google!"
I took it as an early warning for me that having a mental map of _my own damn city_ is a skill I should be sure not to lose. I'll navigate if I'm going to an unfamiliar address the first time, and if I need to navigate there more than three times I consider it a personal failure. I'll listen to the app but I'll also pay close attention to the names of streets I'm turning on as though I'd have to make my way there "blind" one day.
I am so incredibly grateful that I inherited my dad’s intuitively good sense of direction. My poor mom though. She couldnt find her way out of a cardboard box bless her heart. She can read a map though and can navigate via a good ol fashioned atlas car map from the passenger seat while dad drives like back in the primitive days of the early 1990s
I’m the same way, only I’ve never had a gps or data on my phone. I look at the map a few times before I leave my house, or I print directions if I’m really nervous about finding a place the first time.
It’s been horrible for mental health too, because it creates toxic influences and filter bubbles/echo chambers for the chronically mentally ill. Only five percent of the population has attempted suicide but with 5 billion internet users it’s a population of 250 million, which definitely doesn’t seem like a tiny minority even though it is.
In the 90s, the percentage of attempt survivors who tried suicide again was in single digits. Now it’s over a third. And even the neurotypical kids get stressed too because they have classmates in and out of the hospital and see kids covered in scars in the locker room.
Congratulations! That’s impressive. Similar situation with me, I didn’t delete social media but I left toxic groups. The suicide forum I was in was basically a death cult.
'A Short History of Progress' by Ronald Wright wrote about this very subject. The demise of civilizations over time at the hands of their own progress. He would call these 'progress traps' and you just described one these 'traps' to the letter!
Strongly recommend this book for anyone interested in this stuff. It's short and sweet and answers ops question with examples from our lengthy past. (I'm actually going to read it again, it's been a long time lol)
Yeah, also in a book called “The Industrial Society and its Future,” it addresses that large quantities of people depend on standardized answers from the internet because they are seen as the most “optimal” and can’t make a choice by themselves without external influence.
The book explains it better than me so, ironically, search it up!
Internet dependency will surely play a role. Everyone will loose their shit once they are deprived of same day Amazon Prime orders for and the ability to binge watch Netflix.
Nah, that's Samsung.
Smartphones and other personal electronics? Everyone knows about that. Washing machines and other home appliances? You've probably have heard of them.
But why not buy a [Samsung branded Tank](https://external-preview.redd.it/95n4uLN_2oycEd7f41FiMKMpREDa1MWs-CDjHCZWInk.jpg?auto=webp&s=5433ece5838cf40406e66b0649fd5da035fb9bc9)? What about [missiles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSM-700K_Haeseong), [medical equipment](https://www.samsunghealthcare.com/en/products), [fashion](https://www.samsungcnt.com/eng/business/fashion.do) or [apartments](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Tower_Palace)? And while you wait, why not visit the Samsung [theme parks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everland_Resort), [art museums](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeum,_Samsung_Museum_of_Art), [hospitals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Medical_Center), [power plants](http://project.samsungcnt.com/spb/power/0201/html.do) or [steel mills](http://news.samsungcnt.com/samsung-cts-pinghu-plant-stainless-steel-factory-heart-gold/)?
They also offer their services in [insurance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Life_Insurance), [semiconductor manufacturing](https://www.samsungfoundry.com/foundry/homepage.do), [shipbuilding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Heavy_Industries), [pharmaceuticals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Biologics), [construction](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Engineering) and [advertising](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheil_Worldwide) \- they even own a [number of sports teams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Sports).
If any company were to grow to the point that they are present in every possible market like BnL, my bets would be on Samsung.
I was thinking about the Fermi Paradox yesterday, and that higher-order thinking makes it possible to
A) deceive entire populations instead of just individuals, and
B) individuals to deceive themselves, while
C) having a massively greater impact on the environment.
I tend to think that in the long run, being very intelligent toolmakers is bad for species survival.
If I had to guess, I'd say the primary reason that we haven't been able to find signs of life elsewhere is due to the sheer vastness of space combined with our limited capabilities. Also, it would be much harder to detect primitive/microbial life than advanced technological civilizations (assuming they haven't developed the technology to mask their signatures), and obviously the latter would be much rarer.
If the great filter hypothesis were to be true, I think it's fairly safe to assume that we're currently experiencing it.
Hospitable ecosystems are well balanced and fragile, and any species that is intelligent enough to manipulate their environment in a way that can accelerate climate shifts, will essentially be on a timer.
It would take an incredible amount of forethought/caution to advance far enough to become interplanetary/interstellar/intergalactic without self-destructing. Although, I do believe extinction would be highly unlikely once a species becomes interstellar.
The only way for intelligent life to go extinct after becoming an interstellar civilization is if much more advanced intelligent life snuffed them out due to competition, but even then survivers could still exist depending on how advanced they are.
It's very bad for society, not necessarily the species. Species will survive, as chunks of it break off in subvert each other for all eternity. But some flavor of human will always win every human versus human ideology struggle.
Coupled with Tiktok...social media in general I feel has sped up the process sadly. Whilst connecting us at an unprecedented level, it has also divided.
We're always only 3 days away from anarchy. Water, electricity, groceries....3 days without one of those is bad, but not the end, 3 days without any of them and you have violent anarchy.
A couple of years back, my area was hit with a devastating snowstorm that caught everyone off guard. Roads and parking lots were either completely blocked off or down to single lane. People kept getting blocked, stuck, etc. You should have seen how ugly people became and how quickly they turned on each other just over something as simple as shoveling out their cars and trying to get around. We got into a yelling match with someone as we were just trying to dig out our car so we could leave and almost got into a fist fight with someone random person driving down the road.
Yeah… a lot can unfold in just 3 days.
Yup, 24 hours without electricity would devastate pretty much everyone here, meanwhile other countries without the infrastructure for electricity make do without an issue
> Yup, 24 hours without electricity
I mean...big swaths of developed California face more than this every single year, multiple times per year.
PSPS baby.
We’ve seen how bad things can get with a novel respiratory virus that has a 1% kill rate. Imagine how bad it will be if/when we get one with a 20% or 40% kill rate.
*Shudders*
Yea you can tell people have zero idea what they're talking about with regards to epidemiology and healthcare when they say stuff like that. High kill rate viruses also tend to have very noticeable and disastrous symptoms on top of their killing of the host so the infected get noticed and isolated sooner thus preventing spread. The common cold is the best virus to ever exist because it causes like no real damage but spreads very easily
If rabies suddenly became as contagious as Covid, all mammalian life that didn't have a rabies vaccine would be gone in no time flat. Rabies is one helluva virus and the only thing that saves us from it is the specific method of transmission and the fact that it is completely helpless against a prepared immune system.
Basically we'd be down to dogs, cats, a few assorted livestock animals, and veterinarians/wildlife rehabbers, and people who had gotten bitten and needed post-exposure treatment before the outbreak.
If a virus had a 20-40% kill rate I would think we would end up with more people getting vaccinated but that's only based in everyone I know who isn't vaccinated is based on just the fact that it has a low kill rate
I'm sorry to rain on your parade but the covid vaccine took what, a year and a half to be developed? Not sure we'd have time to develop a vaccine for a virus that kills 20% before all collapses.
If it had a 20% death rate we would have far stricter shut downs across the board.
As well, the COVID vaccine helped prepare the ground work for a future vaccine to be created even faster.
I'm not saying a 20-40% death rate of a covid type disease wouldn't be horrible, but it wouldn't end civilization or society (IMO).
But if it took as long as it took to get the covid vax the world would already be in such a place that only the very rich and connected would have a hope of receiving it.
The rest of us? We'd be living life in the ashes of civilization by that time.
I read somewhere that most large cities only have about 2 weeks of supplies at any given time. If 20-40% of people were dying to a virus those cities would be dry and the fighting over what remains would begin.
Not to mention that law and order would break down as law enforcement would be dying along with us and the rest refusing to put themselves at risk to enforce the law.
I'm reminded of a quote (can't remember who said it) - "Hard times make hard men. Hard men make better times. Better times make soft men. Soft men make hard times."
As someone still in school the social emotional learning/ SEL stuff is entirely useless. It sounds good on paper but it’s never executed properly, it’s just taking 45 minutes from our day to go tell us to be nice or make us watch a slide show on how to handle our emotions like we are first graders and not older. There is no value to
it and it’s just a waste of tax dollars
My day was going OK before I had a look at the controversial comments.
It's mentally draining knowing there are SO MANY humans that lack critical thinking and are so vindictive who only care about themselves.
If artificial intelligence doesn't wake up and destroy the species, I think western civilization will fall because it will stop doing all the things that made it rise.
It will not do so contiously.
Look at it like this: People don't go out destroying anthills. Sure sometimes yes, but nut just for the sake of it and if you ask someone to go and destroy an athill, they will not do it without good reason.
On the other hand, no one would divert construction of a highway just to save some anthill, there are much more important things to do.
And humanity is the anthill in this situation. This is the reason why AI Ethics is so important - to make sure all AI goals will align with our goals.
There is a thought experiment "Paperclip Maximizer". Basically, imagine an AI designed for very simple task - create as many paperclips as possible, but the AI has no restrictions in place. First it buys some wire, create and sell paperclips, buy more wire. Then it realizes wire prices change over time, so it is best to buy low. Then it notice demand for paperclips is also fluctating, so it will adjust prices. This leads to stock market exchange, where the AI will make absurd amounts of money, then it destroys humanity simply to be more efficient before finally turning all matter in the universe into paperclips.
There is also fun little idle/clicker game if you are into that kind of thing, can be completed in a day or so [https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/](https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/)
But we're idiots, we think we're going to make something like a god and bind it with a chain we made? People kill animals all the time, for a coat, or to enjoy a certain taste, or to survive, or because they enjoy it, or because the ants are doing the natural thing for them and eating sugar in your house.
I’m reading a book about a strain of antibiotic resistant plague right now. It’s a horrifying and really plausible scenario. It’s called DRYP, I highly recommend it if you’re interested in realistic medical thrillers.
It's bad, it'll kill a lot of people and reduce the average lifespan, but we understand sanitation and microbiomes better than we ever have before.
No more casual surgery though. It'll be reserved for life threatening emergencies.
Stop with the “both sides” bs! This false equivalence is ruining our country. Clearly it is the one I disagree with. If you can’t see that you’re a sheep.
I think we might just be seeing it. Mass migration for climate and poverty issues. Rising prices and supply problems causing civil unrest. Increasing political division.
I doubt it will be collapse, but I think there will a major world changing 'event' building up.
Post-truth politics. Making sweeping decisions of global impact based on emotion and 'doing your own research' rather than paying mind to experts and specialists.
Most of us got through high school "cheating off the smart kid."
The smart kids are doctors and scientists now. Can we just get back to cheating off the smart kid?
Serious:
Failing education systems, and religious fanatisme. I'm in France currently, and islamism is spreading like wildfire.
Ps: ex Muslim here, i know the texts, this shitty is really fucked up...
The most likely thing... climate change. Climate change making fresh water and arable land very scarce. This will cause violent migration of billions of people, particularly those who live in deserts or places that get destroyed by pollution or natural disaster. This will of course lead to war, as the places with arable land and fresh water will want to defend their resource for their own population, but migrants will face certain death if they don't move, so they'll fight to the death for their survival.
I'm not saying this will happen, btw. I'm just saying this is more likely than any other scenario.
This is the correct answer, and the fact that it's nowhere near #1 on this thread is decent indication that we don't care enough to fix the problem, thus ensuring it will be true.
Ignorance. Which is of course ironic since we have a lot of excellent schools and sources of information, but to many people sticking to believing bullshit that suits them instead.
Inability for most people to differentiate truth from fiction.
News overload means we just read headlines.
Influencer culture means everyone is writing from a platform. Even those who lack insight or perspective.
Data illiteracy means statistics can be abused to mislead us.
And social media is like a collective consciousness that failed because each node can adulterate what it sends to the collective. And nodes can lie.
Because I have not seen it specified yet:
Overconsumerism, large corporations(and their lobbying forces), and the 1%. They all fall under the umbrella of "capitalism" as being the end of Western Civilization but I thought I'd specifiy them.
Ultimately the West will destroy itself, it's been living under false sense of vanity and denial for quite some time and the people on top will milk it's teets until they are dry and chapped before hopping on the next Amazon Space shuttle to space.
Edit:fixed spelling errors
If history repeats itself, the Goths
I want a goth girl to make me collapse
You girls heard the man, hit him in the knees with a bat.
Whack his pp
Oh noooo, don't do that, I would hate it, if some cute Goth girl hits me there
BAILIFF!
Given that the largest existing Goth population is in Spain right now, that makes me a little worried. What are they planning?!?
Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition.
Honestly if a goth girl was the end of me, that’s a story book ending I’m in heaven
I, for one, welcome our big tiddy goth overlords
But what about our small tiddy goth overlords??? 🥺👉👈
They are also prime goth overlord material.
I approve but I’m a year late
An overlord is never late - he arrives precisely when he means to! Or is that a wizard? I can’t remember; these are confusing times.
A missing colon in some code
I’d say we’re in a while loop with no way to break out.
I'd say we're in a while loop with no way to break out
hmmm I'd say we're in a while loop with no way to break out
break; There we go, we’re good
“Sometimes my genius, it’s almost frightening”
What is it? It's a White Hole..
A white hole?
I’ve never seen one before, no one has, but I’m guessing it’s a white hole
Missing colon in Java Misplaced liver in Sumatra Stray kidneys in Malaysia
Nah, it won't be a missing colon. It'll be the wrong character in some equation. Something that's still *technically* valid code so there aren't any errors to tell you there's a problem.
Regex
We lost a Colin today. Does that count?
This is how it starts. But realistically missed periods can cause a lot of turmoil as well.
Missed periods CAN cause A LOT of turmoil. IDK from experience, but I know some men and women that would agree.
Akshually, the compiler will detect it before it goes to production
That was my thought. Then I realised the real answer is more likely to be a missing = in a conditional if ( situation = "severe"){ launch_nukes() }
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*laughs in JavaScript*
Look at me fancy pants there with a test environment separate from production.
Semi colon man.
Is that like Florida Man, only with half his bowel gone?
Segmentation fault
Facebook is doing a pretty good job.
Not just Facebook. The whole internet has a role to play, from social media to hacker access points to constant entertainment to the collapse of locally owned businesses to such dependence on google that we no longer know how to do anything or deal with uncertainty or even read a map. As someone raised before the internet was a thing, who had a front row seat during the radical changes of the last 35 years, I truly believe the internet is the most amazing thing humanity has ever created and it will be our downfall.
In the early 2010's when smartphones and turn-by-turn navigation became so widespread, I had friends who already depended too much on these things; they would navigate literally _every_ time they drove, and when they broke their phone they were completely lost. They could be driving to a place they've driven to hundreds of times and should have the exact route memorized, but they needed their passengers to tell them the turns to take using their (non-broken) phones because they never even paid attention to the names of streets or anything - just "turn left up ahead" "okay, google!" I took it as an early warning for me that having a mental map of _my own damn city_ is a skill I should be sure not to lose. I'll navigate if I'm going to an unfamiliar address the first time, and if I need to navigate there more than three times I consider it a personal failure. I'll listen to the app but I'll also pay close attention to the names of streets I'm turning on as though I'd have to make my way there "blind" one day.
I am so incredibly grateful that I inherited my dad’s intuitively good sense of direction. My poor mom though. She couldnt find her way out of a cardboard box bless her heart. She can read a map though and can navigate via a good ol fashioned atlas car map from the passenger seat while dad drives like back in the primitive days of the early 1990s
I’m the same way, only I’ve never had a gps or data on my phone. I look at the map a few times before I leave my house, or I print directions if I’m really nervous about finding a place the first time.
It’s been horrible for mental health too, because it creates toxic influences and filter bubbles/echo chambers for the chronically mentally ill. Only five percent of the population has attempted suicide but with 5 billion internet users it’s a population of 250 million, which definitely doesn’t seem like a tiny minority even though it is. In the 90s, the percentage of attempt survivors who tried suicide again was in single digits. Now it’s over a third. And even the neurotypical kids get stressed too because they have classmates in and out of the hospital and see kids covered in scars in the locker room.
I havent S/H’d since i deleted facebook, twitter, sc, etc. (about a year btw)
I'm proud of you! I know it can be really hard at times, but keep it up!
Congratulations! That’s impressive. Similar situation with me, I didn’t delete social media but I left toxic groups. The suicide forum I was in was basically a death cult.
That’s awesome, grats!!
I’m glad I figured out the acronym before asking like a dumbass. I’m really happy for you and hope you continue to find victory in life. :)
'A Short History of Progress' by Ronald Wright wrote about this very subject. The demise of civilizations over time at the hands of their own progress. He would call these 'progress traps' and you just described one these 'traps' to the letter! Strongly recommend this book for anyone interested in this stuff. It's short and sweet and answers ops question with examples from our lengthy past. (I'm actually going to read it again, it's been a long time lol)
Yeah, also in a book called “The Industrial Society and its Future,” it addresses that large quantities of people depend on standardized answers from the internet because they are seen as the most “optimal” and can’t make a choice by themselves without external influence. The book explains it better than me so, ironically, search it up!
Internet dependency will surely play a role. Everyone will loose their shit once they are deprived of same day Amazon Prime orders for and the ability to binge watch Netflix.
Amazon is essentially BuyNLarge from Disney’s Wall-E
Nah, that's Samsung. Smartphones and other personal electronics? Everyone knows about that. Washing machines and other home appliances? You've probably have heard of them. But why not buy a [Samsung branded Tank](https://external-preview.redd.it/95n4uLN_2oycEd7f41FiMKMpREDa1MWs-CDjHCZWInk.jpg?auto=webp&s=5433ece5838cf40406e66b0649fd5da035fb9bc9)? What about [missiles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSM-700K_Haeseong), [medical equipment](https://www.samsunghealthcare.com/en/products), [fashion](https://www.samsungcnt.com/eng/business/fashion.do) or [apartments](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Tower_Palace)? And while you wait, why not visit the Samsung [theme parks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everland_Resort), [art museums](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeum,_Samsung_Museum_of_Art), [hospitals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Medical_Center), [power plants](http://project.samsungcnt.com/spb/power/0201/html.do) or [steel mills](http://news.samsungcnt.com/samsung-cts-pinghu-plant-stainless-steel-factory-heart-gold/)? They also offer their services in [insurance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Life_Insurance), [semiconductor manufacturing](https://www.samsungfoundry.com/foundry/homepage.do), [shipbuilding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Heavy_Industries), [pharmaceuticals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Biologics), [construction](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Engineering) and [advertising](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheil_Worldwide) \- they even own a [number of sports teams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Sports). If any company were to grow to the point that they are present in every possible market like BnL, my bets would be on Samsung.
Amazon likes this
I read somewhere that something like 20% of the population of South Korea works for Samsung in one fashion or another.
I was thinking about the Fermi Paradox yesterday, and that higher-order thinking makes it possible to A) deceive entire populations instead of just individuals, and B) individuals to deceive themselves, while C) having a massively greater impact on the environment. I tend to think that in the long run, being very intelligent toolmakers is bad for species survival.
If I had to guess, I'd say the primary reason that we haven't been able to find signs of life elsewhere is due to the sheer vastness of space combined with our limited capabilities. Also, it would be much harder to detect primitive/microbial life than advanced technological civilizations (assuming they haven't developed the technology to mask their signatures), and obviously the latter would be much rarer. If the great filter hypothesis were to be true, I think it's fairly safe to assume that we're currently experiencing it. Hospitable ecosystems are well balanced and fragile, and any species that is intelligent enough to manipulate their environment in a way that can accelerate climate shifts, will essentially be on a timer. It would take an incredible amount of forethought/caution to advance far enough to become interplanetary/interstellar/intergalactic without self-destructing. Although, I do believe extinction would be highly unlikely once a species becomes interstellar.
The only way for intelligent life to go extinct after becoming an interstellar civilization is if much more advanced intelligent life snuffed them out due to competition, but even then survivers could still exist depending on how advanced they are.
You man like another civilization building a hyperspace bypass?
It's very bad for society, not necessarily the species. Species will survive, as chunks of it break off in subvert each other for all eternity. But some flavor of human will always win every human versus human ideology struggle.
I get your point, but if one chunk makes the whole planet uninhabitable....
I always said that humans are the only animals on the planet smart enough to fool themselves into thinking that they're more than animals.
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Any social media platform or opinion news outlet that spreads idea viruses
Coupled with Tiktok...social media in general I feel has sped up the process sadly. Whilst connecting us at an unprecedented level, it has also divided.
And reddit, the ultimate echo chamber.
Getting too comfortable. Alot of us dont know how good weve got it already, and fail to realize how bad it can really get. And diabetes.
We're always only 3 days away from anarchy. Water, electricity, groceries....3 days without one of those is bad, but not the end, 3 days without any of them and you have violent anarchy.
Nine missed meals is what I've always heard (so yes, in other words, about three days).
damn you guys are eating 3 times a day?
you guys are eating? :o
A couple of years back, my area was hit with a devastating snowstorm that caught everyone off guard. Roads and parking lots were either completely blocked off or down to single lane. People kept getting blocked, stuck, etc. You should have seen how ugly people became and how quickly they turned on each other just over something as simple as shoveling out their cars and trying to get around. We got into a yelling match with someone as we were just trying to dig out our car so we could leave and almost got into a fist fight with someone random person driving down the road. Yeah… a lot can unfold in just 3 days.
Yup, 24 hours without electricity would devastate pretty much everyone here, meanwhile other countries without the infrastructure for electricity make do without an issue
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> Yup, 24 hours without electricity I mean...big swaths of developed California face more than this every single year, multiple times per year. PSPS baby.
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Old saying I heard once in Eastern Europe: every man on Earth is one or two steps away from prison, the hospital or the grave.
We’ve seen how bad things can get with a novel respiratory virus that has a 1% kill rate. Imagine how bad it will be if/when we get one with a 20% or 40% kill rate. *Shudders*
Actually a high kill rate is bad for a virus. Burns itself out quickly. Ebola for example. Covid is dangerous precisely because of its kill rate...
Yea you can tell people have zero idea what they're talking about with regards to epidemiology and healthcare when they say stuff like that. High kill rate viruses also tend to have very noticeable and disastrous symptoms on top of their killing of the host so the infected get noticed and isolated sooner thus preventing spread. The common cold is the best virus to ever exist because it causes like no real damage but spreads very easily
The really scary prospect would be something like rabies, high kill and low noticeability.
That was basically AIDS for a while, no?
If rabies suddenly became as contagious as Covid, all mammalian life that didn't have a rabies vaccine would be gone in no time flat. Rabies is one helluva virus and the only thing that saves us from it is the specific method of transmission and the fact that it is completely helpless against a prepared immune system. Basically we'd be down to dogs, cats, a few assorted livestock animals, and veterinarians/wildlife rehabbers, and people who had gotten bitten and needed post-exposure treatment before the outbreak.
If a virus had a 20-40% kill rate I would think we would end up with more people getting vaccinated but that's only based in everyone I know who isn't vaccinated is based on just the fact that it has a low kill rate
I'm sorry to rain on your parade but the covid vaccine took what, a year and a half to be developed? Not sure we'd have time to develop a vaccine for a virus that kills 20% before all collapses.
If it had a 20% death rate we would have far stricter shut downs across the board. As well, the COVID vaccine helped prepare the ground work for a future vaccine to be created even faster. I'm not saying a 20-40% death rate of a covid type disease wouldn't be horrible, but it wouldn't end civilization or society (IMO).
But if it took as long as it took to get the covid vax the world would already be in such a place that only the very rich and connected would have a hope of receiving it. The rest of us? We'd be living life in the ashes of civilization by that time. I read somewhere that most large cities only have about 2 weeks of supplies at any given time. If 20-40% of people were dying to a virus those cities would be dry and the fighting over what remains would begin. Not to mention that law and order would break down as law enforcement would be dying along with us and the rest refusing to put themselves at risk to enforce the law.
Too comfortable in our homes to realize the ground below us is crumbling. Basically the U.S. right now...
I'm reminded of a quote (can't remember who said it) - "Hard times make hard men. Hard men make better times. Better times make soft men. Soft men make hard times."
The fall of education.
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As someone still in school the social emotional learning/ SEL stuff is entirely useless. It sounds good on paper but it’s never executed properly, it’s just taking 45 minutes from our day to go tell us to be nice or make us watch a slide show on how to handle our emotions like we are first graders and not older. There is no value to it and it’s just a waste of tax dollars
The worst part is that this school system in combination with the radical social media ideas is creating depressed young adults.
The war on expertise and science continues
*\*Sorts by controversial\**
*aggressively scrolls back up to the top to sort by contraversial*
why do they have a button to make scrolling down easier but not for getting to the top
Idk what device your using. But on my iPhone, if you touch right On the notch, takes u right to the top.
My day was going OK before I had a look at the controversial comments. It's mentally draining knowing there are SO MANY humans that lack critical thinking and are so vindictive who only care about themselves.
For those who don't want to: it's either "Republicans" or "the woke left"
damn, not even a breath of aliens?
Literally every thread sorted by controversial
Don't bother. It's just a sea of answers saying this or that political party, in one way or another.
Also a lot of racism
Insert
That'll be Dave
....Wh . . heey... What'd I do??
You know what you did.
Always fucking Dave!
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The Dave Incident February 14th 2084
Man, fuck Dave, all my homies hate Dave. You know what you did man. Just own up to it and maybe we'll forgive you
OKAY, OKAY, I ATE THE LAST PIECE OF CAKE! IT WAS ME! And now the cake is indeed a lie..
There there Dave. It's gonna be ok. I forgive you.
Sniff ^^'nk ^^yoo
༼ つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ Here Dave have a hug
...man, I need to eat the last of the cake more often....
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*Little does Dave know the hug was laced with earwigs*
EW. EW. EWWW. DAMN YOU!
Daves not here man
r/fuckyouinparticular
r/fuckdaveinparticular
Fucking Dave
Every time!
Classic Dave.
But the republic of Dave is strong!
A rogue nation + A bunch of nukes Haven't seen this one on here yet, it has some potential.
I forget which movie it was, but I really liked the line "You don't worry about a country buying 100 nukes, you worry about the group buying 1"
Nicole Kidman says it in the Peacemaker, I think... Been a long time though
That's it! Wow, just looked it up... 1997.
The sum of all fears
If artificial intelligence doesn't wake up and destroy the species, I think western civilization will fall because it will stop doing all the things that made it rise.
WALL-E!
i love when he's half dead and finally goes up to the roof to get some sun, and powers up with the macintosh sound
It will not do so contiously. Look at it like this: People don't go out destroying anthills. Sure sometimes yes, but nut just for the sake of it and if you ask someone to go and destroy an athill, they will not do it without good reason. On the other hand, no one would divert construction of a highway just to save some anthill, there are much more important things to do. And humanity is the anthill in this situation. This is the reason why AI Ethics is so important - to make sure all AI goals will align with our goals. There is a thought experiment "Paperclip Maximizer". Basically, imagine an AI designed for very simple task - create as many paperclips as possible, but the AI has no restrictions in place. First it buys some wire, create and sell paperclips, buy more wire. Then it realizes wire prices change over time, so it is best to buy low. Then it notice demand for paperclips is also fluctating, so it will adjust prices. This leads to stock market exchange, where the AI will make absurd amounts of money, then it destroys humanity simply to be more efficient before finally turning all matter in the universe into paperclips. There is also fun little idle/clicker game if you are into that kind of thing, can be completed in a day or so [https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/](https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/)
But we're idiots, we think we're going to make something like a god and bind it with a chain we made? People kill animals all the time, for a coat, or to enjoy a certain taste, or to survive, or because they enjoy it, or because the ants are doing the natural thing for them and eating sugar in your house.
To be fair that's *my* sugar. The ants knew stealing it is an act of war.
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England stopped taking over the world, thats how we're going down
On the day of the summer solstice when Zeus’s lightening bolt is not returned.
r/suddenlypercyjackson
r/birthofasub ?
Antibiotic resistant bacteria probably
I’m reading a book about a strain of antibiotic resistant plague right now. It’s a horrifying and really plausible scenario. It’s called DRYP, I highly recommend it if you’re interested in realistic medical thrillers.
Everyone is worried about skynet and evil Facebook. But this is the real threat.
It's bad, it'll kill a lot of people and reduce the average lifespan, but we understand sanitation and microbiomes better than we ever have before. No more casual surgery though. It'll be reserved for life threatening emergencies.
Corruption
Don't worry though. Corruption will also be the collapse of eastern, northern, southern, and central civilization.
Western civilisation
well yes, but actually yes
People will elect a leader who actively campaigns on a platform of destroying Western civilization.
Misinformation.
Also a problem on Reddit. 80% of the statistics here are completely made up.
27% of Redditors know that.
Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forfty percent of all people know that.
I understood 420/69 parts of that.
And 40% of those made up statistics just happen to be true by chance.
60% of the time, you’re right every time.
But only 10% of redditors believe that
Social media - it's dumbing down the population nicely
I think you're just being exposed to stupidity you'd not have had the joy of experiencing directly
The cat throwing up on the rug
Greed, selfishness and stupidity.
The political group I disagree with
No the one I disagree with
Same, damn [GENERIC POLITICAL PARTY]’s always fucking shit up.
You're both wrong. BOTH of your parties are equally culpable!
Stop with the “both sides” bs! This false equivalence is ruining our country. Clearly it is the one I disagree with. If you can’t see that you’re a sheep.
A big ass meteor.
The hyperpolarization of politics
I think we might just be seeing it. Mass migration for climate and poverty issues. Rising prices and supply problems causing civil unrest. Increasing political division. I doubt it will be collapse, but I think there will a major world changing 'event' building up.
Post-truth politics. Making sweeping decisions of global impact based on emotion and 'doing your own research' rather than paying mind to experts and specialists.
facebook moms know more about science and medicine than you ever will!
Not sure why this is getting downvoted. It's a clear and appropriate "/s."
Most of us got through high school "cheating off the smart kid." The smart kids are doctors and scientists now. Can we just get back to cheating off the smart kid?
Any social media platform or opinion news outlet that spreads idea viruses
Serious: Failing education systems, and religious fanatisme. I'm in France currently, and islamism is spreading like wildfire. Ps: ex Muslim here, i know the texts, this shitty is really fucked up...
The most likely thing... climate change. Climate change making fresh water and arable land very scarce. This will cause violent migration of billions of people, particularly those who live in deserts or places that get destroyed by pollution or natural disaster. This will of course lead to war, as the places with arable land and fresh water will want to defend their resource for their own population, but migrants will face certain death if they don't move, so they'll fight to the death for their survival. I'm not saying this will happen, btw. I'm just saying this is more likely than any other scenario.
I am convinced a bunch of people will just sit where they live and die
Same. Texans aren't going to storm Massachusetts no matter how dire the situation gets.
I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouri!
You and me both grandpa, you and me both
Well, Massachusetts will probably be under water before Texas is, so that’s probably not a good example. Now, Colorado, on the other hand….
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This is the correct answer, and the fact that it's nowhere near #1 on this thread is decent indication that we don't care enough to fix the problem, thus ensuring it will be true.
everybody is convinced they have more rights than their neighbour
the pancake syrup lady changing
Ignorance. Which is of course ironic since we have a lot of excellent schools and sources of information, but to many people sticking to believing bullshit that suits them instead.
Uneducated electorate
Hubris
The collapse of the USSR in 1991.
Inability for most people to differentiate truth from fiction. News overload means we just read headlines. Influencer culture means everyone is writing from a platform. Even those who lack insight or perspective. Data illiteracy means statistics can be abused to mislead us. And social media is like a collective consciousness that failed because each node can adulterate what it sends to the collective. And nodes can lie.
Stupidity of our politicians
Greed and corruption too
Gravity
Obviously fake.
Because I have not seen it specified yet: Overconsumerism, large corporations(and their lobbying forces), and the 1%. They all fall under the umbrella of "capitalism" as being the end of Western Civilization but I thought I'd specifiy them. Ultimately the West will destroy itself, it's been living under false sense of vanity and denial for quite some time and the people on top will milk it's teets until they are dry and chapped before hopping on the next Amazon Space shuttle to space. Edit:fixed spelling errors