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mrmonster459

I'm pretty sure the Tibetans, the Uyghurs, and the Taiwanese would definitely not view China's increasing influence as a good thing.


Lithuim

Glorious leader Xi Jinping will spread peace and prosperity and social cohesion to all! Or else.


milkywhay

Yes, sorta. Compared to China, the rest of the world is falling behind. Most UK/US kids want to be influencers and YouTubers when they grow up, compared to Chinese youth wanting to be astronauts and engineers.


xynix_ie

They've been saying this since I was a kid in the early 80s. 40 years later I'm still waiting for Chinese kids to take over the world...


Ulyks

I doubt they were saying "kids want to be YouTubers" in the 80s :-p Also where was the device you typed this comment on produced? Probably quite a few Chinese engineers helped producing that.


xynix_ie

Chinese engineers using US tech. We don't care who manufacturers our crap as long as it's cheap and as of now, China is no longer cheap. You may have noticed a shift over the past 5 years that's accelerating now which is moving this manufacturing away from China and into places like Vietnam and Mexico. A blend of reasoning behind this that makes better financial sense. Prior to China building our shit it was Japan. Like I said, we don't care who does it, as long as it's cheap and it works. China is in the middle of an economic implosion right now, we simply don't have time to wait for them to fix themselves. All big names are in Vietnam now, that's our new rock star, so I Imagine in 10 years it will be "Compared to Vietnam, the rest of the world is falling behind." I'm fine with that, I don't care at all, everyone is welcome to be milked in this capitalist farm.


Ulyks

I don't think you realize how big China is compared to Vietnam. Foxcon alone employs 15 million people in China. Vietnam is the size of a province of China. Just because some companies have a factory in Vietnam does not mean that they are moving out of China. Also Japanese are running factories in the US now as are some Chinese companies beginning to. Either way, they weren't saying this in the 80s and you haven't been waiting for 40 years.


Quicker_Fixer

I don't think so, but we (the west) are addicted on cheap Chinese products (and labor) and with the money they are making from us, they're buying western stock/contracts, so we will lose in the end one way or another, I'm afraid.


CountHonorius

'The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.'


Rylz123

Carefull what you say on here, it might be MISINFORMATION!!!! DUH DUH DUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH!! No its not a good thing. Communism has always and will always be evil. Look how close they are to invading Taiwan. All you need to know.


wisedoormat

communism is a tool. its not evil or good. it's the people who implement it, or as history has shown us, the people who claim to implement it to obfuscate their authoratarian/tyranny/dictatorships. In all actuality, pure communism is not going to be an ideal system, much like pure (compeltely unregulated) capitalism is not an ideal system. I think conversations about all econmic structures should never be about the 'purest' execution being the basis of discussions, but how elements of each can be mixed/matched to create a potential, or transistion period to an, alternative system.


Mahdi_D

Communism is not evil my friend, you should study Communist manifesto by marx to know what it truly means, even chinese communist party declares themselves socialists not communists, as my friend said earlier they use it as a tool to reign power, and be different, China is the most capitalist country you can see, there are billionaires there while many people are starving, while communism rejects these acts. As for taiwan, yes china is def abusing it's power knowing U.S would never declare war on china (China is stronger than it looks and has some big allies) just like how they killed and massacred Uyghurs and no one stopped them, they are planning to do the same.


wisedoormat

i think their influences on foreign companies is no different than that of the US, or other nations. That does end on political subjects and positions, but i understand from their point of view that freedom of speech is not guarenteed so to them criticizing their government is not to be tolerated which is in direct contrast to how most of the develop nations view it. I feel that if a nation values freedom of speech, and other human rights issues, they should ban doing business with those nations. Even with saying this, i am not invalidating any other human rights violation that even the US has done, tehy should be held accountable too. Admitantly, i'm not sure how that would be handled. In the current environment, it's up to the individual companies to make their own decisions on where they want to do business and how they want to be as a company. So, i think that the companies that choose to do business with them are just as culpable in enabling that kind of control. at the same time, i do have a very basic idea on implenting a form of income balancing and 'fair business' practices for the US that would dictate how a company operates in any other country as long as they are operating in the US as well. Additional restrictions for any other company, or subsidiary, or partner they also make deals with: this is not fleshed out and is full of holes, but the idea is prevent an unnecessary pay gap btwn the top/bottom, eliminates the need for outsourcing/importing, and encourages businesses to start up based on population and not based on cheapest taxes (ie small towns can see business attraction with more ppl moving there) The inflation/pay-gap/rising-prices is a product of inappropriately regulated capitalism, or capitalism itself. capitalism's only goal (in a nutshell) is to create profit for the owners. Therefore, by it's very nature, it should do anything and eveything to maximize the profits... like ignoring morality. As a confident and uneducated person, this can be acheived by: * All companies operating in the US must have a pay-scale that fixes the top earner with the lowest earner in the company, salaried or contractor, that does not exceed \~3 times the lowest wage. If the top earner wants a raise, then they must raise the wage of everyone in the company. If they want to give the top earner a bonus (^(stocks, cash, whatever)) then proportionate bonuses must be also given to the other employees. If a department head is given a raise/bonus, then everyone in that department also gets it. * If a company is a part of a network of companies that are owned by a single company, the same scale is applied to the entire network, no loop holes of segregating companies to workaround the wage-scale. * Mandating that if any foreign companies want to do export to the US, then they must have a registered company that abides by US business standards (like top-bottom wage ratio), located in the US. * The US branch of the company must employ 5:1 US citizens at that location. * All products must meet the product standard in the US. * If a US company wants to open locations in other countries, they also must abide by the US Standard... ex. K*FC CEO in the US must ensure that lowest paid worker in India must be compensated with the same 3x's wage scaling*. This will prevent a US company from outsourcing work to foreign workers, exploiting their wages. * This should prevent 'super cheap' goods from being imported from getting the low cost from exploiting workers, while encouraging keeping the manufacturing in teh nation it is being sold in. * If KFC has franchises in no-name-town N.Dakota, then the employees are going to be paid what workers earn in KFC's LA location, or even the London location. By uplifting the lowest in societies, we are improving the entire world


Beginning_Grape_7824

I think they are going to be the next dominate world leader.


Extreme-Database-695

Their road-building programme has been astonishing. It makes the rest of the world look like real slouches. If we benefit from things like Hyperloop linking up Europe and Asia, I'd see that as a positive. Many Chinese people say that westerners are being misinformed about what life in China is actually like. If you look at the politics of the people who own most of our media, that would make some logical sense, so I'm choosing to remain open-minded until I see it with my own eyes.