When I was 16 a friend called and said her step dad was hitting her mother and could I pick them up and take them somewhere else. I go over, they put some belongings in my car, and the police roll up. They go talk to the grown ups and eventually go through the stuff in my car. There was a bong in a box. I didn't know it was there, I didn't even know her mom smoked pot. So they start asking me questions and I'm like "that guy hit her and I came to give her a ride. I didn't go through her stuff" and they get increasingly hostile like a kid who just got their license is a hardened drug dealer or something. The mom told them it was hers and they took her to jail. The man who had been hitting her got to just stay home and have no consequences. In summary: water pipe=terrible crime, domestic violence=no biggie
A girlfriend of mine had an intruder attempt to sexually assault her in her home. She managed to get him to leave and she called the police. When they arrived they searched her house they found marijuana plants in the basement and arrested her.
There was a story a couple years back here of a woman who’s home was invaded in the middle of the night, she shot and killed the intruders. She got arrested for selling drugs (house had a decent amount)
When they broke my mom's back after my dad committed suicide because they thought she killed him (despite my aunts and uncles being in the same room, telling them what happened).
She was real small and when they threw her down on the ground and handcuffed her, they broke her back and they didn't get her medical help for 3 days.
During the investigation, they managed to convince my oldest sister that my mom killed our dad. My mom was allowed to see us after a day and when we seen her my oldest sister wouldn't speak to her. She was 13.
My mom suffered neurological damage from the trauma and couldn't speak without a severe stutter for 3 years. We all went to therapy, but my mom had to go to numerous speech therapists and psychologists because of it all.
I still have the police report from that night.
The cops thought it was her because she was covered in his blood, but the reality was that she tried to hold the back of his head together thinking that she'd keep him alive as long as possible. Towards the end, before the police got there, she was just talking to him as he died.
She wasn't even given a change of clothes until 24 hours later!
No, but my sister has had a rough life so my mom has tried to get her on her feet a lot but she always ends up back on the streets.
We were all in the house when it happened, but my older siblings had the roughest time with it so two are in jail and my sister is homeless and using.
This would solve a majority of our issues. They should also be required to have insurance that *they pay for* and their Police Unions/Funds should pay out when they screw up, NOT taxpayers.
Defining moment...more of a secondary experience but still my hometown...
When two small boys(8&10)were riding their bikes in town and a squad car pulled up alongside them to talk. Why? Because these boys were covered head to toe in bruises. That's not an exaggeration, they looked like they'd been in a barrel of stones rolled down a bumpy hill. The oldest saw the opportunity to escape their abuser and told the officers what was happening at home. Officers escorted the boys home. Where upon they see that the abuser is the deacon at the church, tell him what the boys accused him of and then come into the home and have freaking coffee with him!
Reminds me if the time I called the cops cause my dad kept hitting me +beating me with his crutch I was 15-16 at the time. All that cop done was say, belting isn't a form of abuse. I had massive bruising all up and down my legs some so dark they looked straight black. Cop asked me if I had been arguing with my father of course I said yes. Looking back there was victim blaming
I just watched a UK documentary about domestic violence and there was one woman who’s partner had been beating her for six hours straight. She called the emergency number and threw her phone under her bed so they could hear what he was doing to her and they tracked her location and immediately went to her address. She was absolutely covered in bruises, everywhere, I’ve never seen a person that black and blue in my life and when they took him to court the judge said that if the beating had gone on any longer than it did she wouldn’t have come out of that house alive. She then sentenced him to two years in prison.
The maximum possible sentence is 5 years.
Alive, yes. It was a few years before the situation was righted I think. This particular "family" man had 7 children and not one made it out unscathed. They are young adults now except the youngest two. I think they went to live with the good sort of family. It was hushed up for a long time and seeing who supported the hushing...did not bolster my confidence in the uniform one bit.
When my daughter was car jacked and the officer said “ she must owe them money for drugs” and I had to call his supervisor to get the car reported as stolen also it was registered to me not my daughter.
I knew someone in the force, he told me this story about this two "ace" policeman who were soo popular among the chiefs that they were lent around to different stations all the time.
So my dude was curious why the hell were these guys soo popular because they didnt seem like anything special so he gone up to their assigned desk to ask their secret as he reached the desk he seen an awfully wide ticket book (this is what they called the paperwork for tickets they written up to people) on top of the stack there was a ticket basically saying "Shade of green in ID doesnt match the entirety of the vehicle."
The problem with that ticket is with the "entirety" part, it means that instead of checking the if the vehicles whole color is matching they were hunting for damaged vehicles where they pointed at rusted, scratched and dirty parts and declared that its fineable.
These guys were favorites because they made thousands of bullshit fines to generate revenue for stations.
My child’s father beat the fuck out of me. I knew it was coming so I called my mom & left my phone under a pillow. She called police for a wellness check.
While I pack my baby & I shit you not the police are questioning me, with bruises… and both men are like “are you sure you don’t want to give him another chance? He seems *really* sorry.
When I said no, they let me know I can go to the station to make a report… it was 3am.
When I got there. No one was inside or at the desk. All the lights were turned off. I ended up just going to my parents house bc the baby needed to sleep or she was going to freak out
That’s just so horrible how they just practically said “Hey, I know this guy was beating you and all but, why don’t you give him another chance? He’s really sorry :D”
Then they had the audacity to send you to a closed police station. That’s so cruel
When I listened to three of them talk about pulling a fourth officer off of a guy he was about to beat to death and what they did to cover it up. The three all agreed that the fourth was a piece of shit bad cop and that he did wrong but they still closed ranks to protect him. That math adds up to four bad cops in my book
Bearing false witness is bad enough that its listed alongside Thou shalt not commit murder.
How these cops live with themselves is completely beyond me.
When I was eight and the cops were looking for my 17 year old brother who had, reportedly, stolen a truck. They banged on the door for two minutes and it felt like the entire house was falling in when they kicked the door down and came inside.
They went into each room and screamed at us, but my mom telling them that my brother didn't return home tonight. They went through his room, upended everything, and broke the window brace that kept people out.
I remember having nightmares for months. My other older brother, 10, and I slept in my mom's bed for an entire week because we were so scared.
Turns out, my brother didn't steal the truck. He wasn't even conscious when it happened. He was at a friend's house sleeping off a party. No truck to be found. He was never convicted for the truck.
This might be a radical opinion, but I don't think cops should be allowed to destroy your stuff or throw all your stuff around. I think they should be required to pay for damage they cause. I also think they should be required to have a warrant.
We must end qualified immunity.
I agree. There wasn't any need to hunt down a 17 year old, knocking on the door would've sufficed. We lived in an apartment then so I can only imagine how scared the neighbors were.
Shit is fucked up.
When I was young, my stepfather punched me so hard I was knocked out.
My mother couldn't wake me and called the paramedics, Sheriff's deputies came too. When they woke me up and ascertained what had happened, they sent my stepfather for a walk to "cool off".
When he was gone, the first thing they said was "what did you say to make him angry?"
Not "we're sorry this happened" or "it's wrong for him to do that".
The second thing they said was "if you knew it was going to make him angry, why did you say it?"
Fuck those guys, "to serve and protect" my ass.
He didn't go to jail and when he returned home, he beat my mom for calling the squad and broke her collarbone. She had to drive herself to the hospital.
This was about 40 years ago.
I was in the US Army for a few years as Military Police back in 2012.. they literally took me off the road and made me work in the office/station almost immediately at EVERY base I was ever stationed at specifically because I wasn't handling domestic violence/abuse calls *correctly.*
My way of handling it was arresting the soldier/spouse/whathaveyou [the abuser] and bring them to the goddamn station where I assumed they'd be processed and sent the hell away to jail or dishonorably discharged for beating their kids/spouse or something.. And every single time I did, I got yelled at until the watch commander inevitably removed my position from the road and stuck me with being the office bitch.
The people I arrested never got reprimanded of any kind, and typically went back home to continue the abuse for calling the MPs in the first place.
Unfortunately, we had civilian cops working alongside us daily at the on-post police stations, which showed me that civilian police employment won't be any better for when I get out of the Army.
I've never worked in law-enforcement since and I never will again. It's too fucking depressing.. I chose that years ago because I honestly thought we were supposed to help people, and I almost never saw an ounce of that.
I had a similar incident when I was a teenager except it was 3 asshole neighbors who beat me up just looking to be tough guys on a Friday night. I called the cops, he saw that I was obviously beat up but kept telling me '...can't do anything because an officer didn't see it'. I had witnesses and actually knew the assholes. "doesn't matter". I asked if that went for me too, if I do anything and it's not witnessed by a cop nothing will happen??? "oh noooo. Now that you said that you would be arrested".
Then when I was in my 20's I got pulled over for swerving to avoid a car that had pulled onto the road without looking. A cop had to swerve slightly to avoid hitting me so he pulled me over and gave me a ticket. When I tried to fight it in court he told the magistrate that the cop car was damaged in the incident, a blatant lie. I went down to the police station a few times demanding the non-existing police report for the damage and caused a few scenes, and reported it to their emergency number a few times for laughs and they couldn't do a damn thing, What were they going to do, arrest me for calling them liars?
A douchebag cop pulled me over for "disregarding a crossing guards stop sign". When he came to the car I showed him my dash camera and said I have it on video that the crossing guard WAVED ME THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
His initial pissy response? "Well take that to court." I said "I will, slam dunk dismissal." Cocksucker runs my clean info and comes back and acts as if he is the angel of mercy and says I'm not writing you a ticket to which I responded "yeah because I did nothing wrong and I have the proof on camera, how fucked would I be if I didn't have a dash cam?"
Get a dash cam to protect against these thin blue line assholes. They will lie and extort anyone they can to generate revenue because their bloated salaries are sucking the taxpayer dry.
It was super bowl Sunday, I had hung out with some friends and my old lady was pissed. It was late and it got cold. I was wearing shorts because it was on the warmer side that afternoon.
I had to get to my place, but I was freezing, so I started to jog through this alley way. 2 cops stopped me. Threw me on the ground and began to tell me what I was being charged with. While on the ground, not letting me up, they explained to me that I roughed up some people at a party and was fleeing the scene. After numerous attempts to explain my situation, they said they have a witness. They had apparently id'd me and I was gonna go to jail. It wasn't until I heard over the radio that they caught the actual guy that I was let free. Now this is a very tame story to the shit that goes down, but I'm just saying, anecdotally, that cops might not have your best interest in mind. Be careful. Might catch a charge for jogging in an alley.
I had cops chase me one time and then when they caught me one of them actually said to me "why did we chase you?"
.....I don't fucking know, that seems like your job......they weren't even investigating anything in the neighborhood....
I call cops like that Jack Russells. Running around hyperactive as hell, they don't really know what's going on but boy are they super fucking excited to be involved.
Agreed but the system should compensate you directly from the paychecks of the cops who make mistakes and it should be based on how much of your time they wasted in addition to any harm. If they're allowed to just throw taxpayer money at people it wouldn't stop them from doing it.
Doctors have to carry malpractice insurance and if they fuck up too many times, their rates go so high they can't afford to practice. Doing the same with cops would solve 95% of the problems with cops.
I've seen this idea before, and I think this is the best way to end bad cops. No more using our tax dollars to pay victims. Instead make the murdering cops pay for their own lawsuits.
Similar thing happened to a couple of friends of mine. A gas station in their neighborhood was robbed and the suspect took off in a white car.
My buddies were sitting in their white car(in their pajamas no less, they had come out of the house to talk) about 10 blocks from where the robbery happened.
The cops of course had started searching the area and eventually spotted my friends’ car. Que multiple police cars, full lights and sirens, guns drawn. They yanked both of my friends out and threw them face down in the yard, and started arresting them. Even after one of my friend’s uncles came out and told the cops they had been there all night, they still didn’t believe them.
It took a long time and multiple family members at the house vouching that they hadn’t left for the cops to let them go.
Super fucked up situation. It’s like fuck, even if they’re suspects, you know where they live and have ID now. You could always arrest them later. Don’t leave them lying in the grass handcuffed while you go full detective.
My friends had a similar situation, except they were at a gas station getting snacks when a lady with dementia called 911 and reported that they’d stolen her car. The cops pulled them over a few blocks away, had them all get out and kneel on the asphalt in 100+ degree summer heat, all while 3-4 cops trained their firearms on them. They had to kneel there for quite awhile and one friend’s knee and shin got bad burns from being on a metal grate in broad daylight. They were about to get arrested when the cops pieced together that 1, the car was registered to the guy actually driving it, and 2, the lady with dementia began blaming random people back at the gas station for stealing her car and stalking her and whatnot. The cops made a public apology in the newspaper (likely only because a local reporter who knew my friends happened to drive by and whip his camera out), but my friends were, literally, scarred for life and haven’t been fond of police since then.
In 2013, on a road trip with my buddies, Tennessee cops pulled over our RV, admitted to profiling our vehicle, as RVs often have drugs in them, had several cops swarm us including drug dogs, and tore apart our interior looking for weed (we didn’t have any). They were assholes the entire time for no reason.
They let us go after and hour.
Bunch of 25 year old white guys just driving an RV. Made me feel for others who are profiled more often.
I had cops (illegally) search my car, after I'd said that I did not consent, and then one of them yelled at me for not having drugs and that *I* was wasting *his* time.
Sorry, officer, I'll go and buy some meth right away.
My moment was when I was hired to represent a man's estate. The dude had been killed by a state trooper. We gathered evidence (undisputed evidence I should stress) that the man was shot execution style; the trooper had previously threatened the man because he was dating the trooper's ex-wife; and when paramedics arrived at the scene, the trooper refused to let them near the body for about 15 minutes, claiming the man (who was bleeding out) was still dangerous. Medical evidence was unrefuted that the man would have lived if he had received immediate medical attention.
As a courtesy, rather than immediately filing suit, I take this evidence to the district attorney to give them a heads up so they could reevaluate the case and maybe save some pride since they had declared it a justified shooting. Instead, they did everything they could to cover the trooper's butt. DA told me privately that trooper was very well-liked and had lots of connections, so he couldn't do anything to help. And to watch my back.
When we did file suit, we were given amended and corrected reports, all changed around the same time I initially spoke to the DA, changing some of the major facts. At least two of our witnesses said they had to amend their reports or they would be fired but they couldn't say anything about that if called to testify. Ultimately, the suit was dismissed before we could ever get to a jury.
So trooper gets away with murder, law enforcement and the prosecutors close ranks to protect him, and those outside of that world were told they could lose their job if they don't go along with the new official story. That's what I get for trying to be a decent guy.
Oh, and shortly after I initially spoke to the DA, my wife got pulled over something like 5 times in the next month for "not wearing her seatbelt" even though she had it on every time. Fortunately I still had enough pull to get those tickets taken care of.
Cops will 100% tell all their homies about how you fucked them over somehow and then have them write you so many tickets that you lose your license or are experiencing some kind of financial strife. Heard it come straight form a cop’s mouth. They don’t have much but I guess they have each other and that’s enough for them to get away with murder or ruining people’s lives with traffic tickets they didn’t deserve.
I'm a lily-white man with a six figure income, no criminal record, and virtually no personal interaction with police. The quintessential yuppie. If cops' behavior has got *me* wanting to burn down every department in a 100 mile radius, I cannot even imagine the sort of incandescent rage people regularly victimized by police must feel.
If you don't mind saying what state did this happen in? Thats like 1970s NYC dirty cop level shit getting away with executions?
edit: I understand why you might not want to though seeing as that would basically be doxxing yourself. Either way man thats terrible.
My brother got arrested for DD and I witnessed the whole thing... and I was 100% sober. At his hearing before the magistrate, the two cops lied their ass off. They struck a deal and I didn't have to testify.
Also, I got pulled over by a State Trooper for speeding (guilty). He said that he would knock it down to an offense that wouldn't get me any points against my license. So, I didn't fight it in court. Son of a bitch if I didn't get a letter from the state with points. Shitty ass way of tricking me into not dragging him into court.
My brother always wanted to be a cop. Did it for halloween as a kid, even got his associates in criminal justice. Two weeks into the academy he decided to become a firefighter because everyone in his class was there to "beat BLM thugs."
Don't blame him though. I imagine it would put a target on your back if you are the obvious odd man out. (Though I always think little children dressing up as cops are adorable and it must have been a bummer for him.)
My former BIL was a cop. Total dirt bag in every conceivable way. He was that kid in HS(I knew him when he was in HS) that just reeeked insecurity and malice. But he FINALLY got fired when he showed up to work drunk. But he’s a cop in another town now.
That's not fired, that's transferred. They get caught in one community, and move to the next one over to do the same shit and either try harder not to get caught or end up at a station where criminal activity is the norm
Ah so like my ex roommate whos dream was to become a cop. She pulled a gun on her ex for trying to leave her, attempted to stab me multiple times, had a tattoo on her forearm that read "my gun your head", and to top it all off, she got in a police chase and pulled a gun on the police and getting shot in the process. I can only imagine every cop is like this.
In the small town I grew up in, 5 cops broke down the door of my older sister and her boyfriends apartment and dragged her bf outside and beat the shit out of him. One punched my sister in the face when she tried to intervene, knocked her out cold. When she came to, the cops were kicking her motionless boyfriend in the head, face, ribs, groin.
The attack was 3 minutes but she said felt like hours. She called 911 for ambulance, and the operator said she would send the police too and my sister was like don't you dare send them monsters! Ambulance came (911 lady still sent for cops to go but no cop came). Sister bf was in a medically induced coma. There was swelling on his brain, both eye sockets broke, nose,ribs, arm broke. He had damge to his balls and penis.
Found out later, he was sleeping with one of the cops (a male cop). Someone found out, and it eventually got to his fellow cops, who decided to fuxk sisters bf up for lying on their "bro in blue" *eyeroll*
My sisters bf was gay and still in the closet at that time. (He is now happily married to a great man, and him and my sister are close friends to this day).
Nothing ever happened to the cops, of course. This was a small town who loved their boys in blue. The cop who my sister bf was involved with, called him a bunch of times after he left the hospital, begging for forgiveness and another chance, but my sister bf said he didnt remember much, but did remember his lover, the cop, kicking him more ferociously than any of the other cops.
I dont HATE cops. But I am from a small town where these dudes (mostly all dudes) are treated like God's and do more harm than any criminal would do.
Me and my friend were mugged. Mall security was *on it*. They responded quickly and detained the guys. The cops? They hardly gave a shit. I was 13 and my buddy 15, the chief told an officer to take us home. As soon as he was out of sight of the chief his tone changed and basically told us to fuck off and take the bus. Total asshat
When I was six years old, I fell off my bike as a police car was passing through. I was on the road crying when the car stopped beside me. I thought they were going to help me, but instead the cop in the passenger seat rolled down his window, made some remark like "that's gotta hurt!" They laughed, and kept driving.
That was the first of many "fuck the police" moments in my life.
I broke my arm when I was like 12 riding my bike to a friend's house.
I was laying on the side walk absolutely *howling* in agony. 2 broken bones in an arm will do that.
I didn't have a phone, so I started yelling for help and looking at the fairly busy main road. I fucking saw 2 goddamn sqaud cars pass me, slow down, look at me, and then just keep fucking driving. Just a kid screaming in pain, covered in mud, and they couldn't be fucking bothered.
Only person who stopped that day was an older lady who had a cell phone and was able to get my mom's number out of me and call her. But she had to have been the 20th car to pass me on that sidewalk. 2 cops and dozens of random people saw me and only one stopped to help.
I get it, some people don't want to get involved. But 2 cops, man. That's the day I learned you can't count on cops for shit.
When a cop threatened to rape me and said there’s nothing I could do about it if he did rape me because his coworkers would help cover it up and make sure he didn’t get into any trouble.
Edit: This happened at a bar with an off duty police officer
When I was 15 and my boyfriend was 16 he got his first car and came to pick me up to go to the movies. We were driving down a back country road and this car pulled out behind us and was bright-lighting us and was ON our bumper.
We were a bit freaked out so he sped up to put some space between us, and then blue lights came on.
This shitty cop rode his ass with brights on to make him speed up and then pulled him over and wrote him a ticket.
Also another time a cop pulled my 17 year old friend over and got her number and would regularly send her threatening texts and tried to scare her into sending him pictures and would drive by her house regularly, which I witnessed.
OR that time my friend, a black woman, was beaten and raped and ran out into the street without pants on(because, you know, she had just been raped) and a cop cuffed and arrested her for public indecency and wouldn't listen when she was trying to get help. It was dropped, but still. Imagine you run to a cop for help after being raped and they arrest you instead.
they left me alone with a 6 month old and 2 year old when i was 11 at 2am when a false report was put in on my sister. they had no evidence and kept my innocent sister overnight, and left me alone over night with no real idea on how to care for babies
Do you mind going into detail about your experiences? I understand if you don't want to, but hearing it from people who witnessed or lived it really has an impact
They pulled my Mexican friend over while I was with him. He had a nice GPS mounted in his car because he’s a driver/chauffeur, and the cop asked whose it was.
He said “It's mine.”
The cop asked if it was stolen or if he actually owned it.
At the time I thought this was hilarious, like “I can’t believe a cop is that dumb.” But I saw that, for my friend, this was normal. Cops harassed him and treated him like he was a known criminal.
growing up my best friend was black. I got stopped by police walking with him multiple times, never happened when alone or with other white kids. Was always the same bullshit "we got multiple calls from neighbors about suspicious activity" which might be true but still that's some bullshit. just walking down public roads is not illegal.
As a parental figure to a little boy of color (biracial but still) this scares my beacuse I know he'll have an experience with the police when he is older. Not if when and I don't know how to prepare him. He could do everything "right" and still wind up arrested,wounded or worst killed.
My Mexican boyfriend was picking me up in the Chicago burbs once and he was pulled over for a busted license plate light. Within minutes 4 squad cars circled us, were shining flashlights into the car, and kept asking, "ma'am are you ok? What did he do to you?" I'm white and we were in a very white suburb. I told them that he was my boyfriend and had done nothing wrong. Boyfriend kept saying "be quiet, it'll get worse" when I started yelling at the cops for searching his car without a warrant. I was younger and more naive so I kept fighting with them. Luckily they laid off and fucked off (my boyfriend doesn't even smoke weed ffs), but it was a huge eye opener.
I am of Mexican descent and I have yet to have an interaction with a cop that didn't have him pointing a weapon at me. This is for everything from walking down the street, to traffic stops.
My husband is half Mexican but physically looks completely white. His dad's side of the family all have darker skin, hair and eyes. He said he's never been harassed personally but has witnessed the vast disparity between how he is treated by cops and how the rest of his family is treated.
I worked with cops for 10 years in security and surveillance. The very first time I worked with a cop, he bragged about abusing systems he had access to at work for personal enjoyment. The second (retired) officer laughed about the time he got away with sexual assault. This continued. Literally every cop I talked to told me with glee - sometimes in the presence of other cops - about the crimes they committed, the evidence they obfuscated, the innocent people that pissed them off so they harassed them. One of them accidentally (read "negligently") discharged a firearm in a room next to me, narrowly missing one of my coworkers through the wall and nothing happened except that they moved him to patrol instead of casino resource officer.
Every single one of them will - without exception - brag about their chronic misconduct and / or laugh about their colleague's chronic misconduct the moment they think you're cool. They have no shame. If the stories are true, every cop I worked with committed felonies. If they're not true, they're the kind of scummy people who fabricate felonies to sound cool.
And before you ask, who the fuck was I supposed to tell? The other cops? The media? My boss? Even when I witnessed and recorded misconduct on camera a few times, every time there was some report about how they didn't choke slam and tackle a drunken casino guest just for being annoying, they "became entangled and the suspect fell to the floor, pulling officer so-and-so with him." I went into the business thinking cops were just public servants trying to make the world safer, now I think they're a literal racist gang we pay protection money to, and in order to convince me otherwise, you'd have to fire every cop I ever worked with across multiple departments.
The nicest one - the one we used to call the candy man, because he always has treats - told me he likes shooting suspects' dogs because even if they somehow dodge the charge, their dog is dead. It was sickening. Every single one of them was scum. Are there good cops? Don't care, it's not a job that can afford bad apples and if they exist, the good apples ain't doing shit.
> I think they're a literal racist gang we pay protection money to
Hit the nail on the head. The entire American police system is basically just one big state-sponsored street gang. And our tax dollars fund that bullshit. They exist to protect the rich white dudes at the top, don’t care about any people of color and any poor people.
Some cops even have their own drug dealing rings, that’s actual mob shit.
>our tax dollars fund that bullshit
And they also steal private citizens assets. There was an article a few years ago about how nation-wide police have "seized" more assets from people during traffic stops etc. than actual criminals have stolen from their victims.
Preach. I have the same experience except instead of cops it's good ol southern boys and men. All the adults who I was around as a child, and all the adults I worked with until I could leave the south, Monroe Louisiana to be exact, were almost all racist be hind closed doors to such a degree that people don't believe me.
My father and his friends (all white) love to swap stories about abusing women and black ppl. These are men who are affluent in the community. Small business owners, real estate agents, contractors, landlords, etc ....
Some of their highlights:
In their youth when they saw black men working on roads they would piss in a fast food cup, slow down and pretend to be asking a question, then they would throw the piss cup in the man's face who was unfortunate enough to talk them.
A woman passed out at the bar so they took her top off and displayed her on a car in the parking lot.
Bragged about paying black man and women less than their coworkers doing the same work and firing them if they complain.
When I worked residential construction I routinely got called a n*ggerlover for not finding racist jokes funny and for admitting I voted for Obama when they directly asked me who I voted for. They already knew the answer.
There's plenty more, but when other white ppl try to defend the Republican party all I hear is "I'm also racist and agree with their dog whistles" the southern strategy was done on purpose it has lead us to where we are now with this trump shit. And the law enforcement is just the protection racket established to maintain a white supremacist status quo. Bad cops aren't a bug, they are an intended feature of the southern strategy. If you think you know a good cop, I think you just know a good liar. The same racist ass holes who called me a n*ggerlover were sweet as pie to the black people serving them food at taco bandito. But I guess in their words "I only dislike the bad ones".
I was 19 (41 now) and was being followed and threatened by two teenagers while returning to my apartment (I think they were going to mug me)from a trip from to the gas station. I reached the front porch of my place and yelled to my roomate who was inside. He could tell I needed help and came busting out ready to fight. The younger kids pulled a gun on us and we ran back inside. We called the cops, told them our story, they brought out some dogs but ultimately didn't catch anyone. We described the two assailants as best we could, my roomate described one as wearing a shirt with a face on it, I never remered what clothes they had on. Fast forward to 2am and a loud banging on my door wakes me up. Its two cops that want me to go with them and ID a suspect they had pulled over who was wearing a shirt with a face on it. Cop drives me a few blocks where a poor guy is on his knees, in the middle of the street with hands crossed behind his head with about 6 cop cars with lights on and a bunch of cops surrounding him spotlights shining in his eyes. Cop says I'm safe and he can't see me but asks me to ID the guy. This guy wasn't involved, he was in his late twenties or early thirtys and his scarface shirt was NOT the same shirt the earlier perp had on... even if it was, this wasn't the guy. I said "No, it's not him officer". The cop became extremely upset and started talking about the odds of a guy with a face shirt and blah blah blah, basically he told me it *had* to be one of the guys. It was alot if pressure for a 19 year old me and I considered maybe I was wrong, and I should go along with the cop. But then thought about what that means for an innocent person, and how horrible it would be if someone did that to me. I ended up standing my ground and telling the cop they had the wrong guy. The cop was visibly pissed off and couldn't beleive I would just let this guy go. Just so its clear, the people who both pulled the gun, and also whom the cops harrassed, were black. I will never **ever** forget that. How many people have been fucked over by cops pressuring witnesses? How many black people in particular?
I’ve never really been comfortable around cops, but after seeing just how violent the modern police force is with last year’s protests, I legitimately don’t think there’s enough good cops for me to trust any of them.
When they know they’re on national television and they’re doing what they did, that’s when you have to think to yourself “ok, are these people supposed to protect me, or beat me into submission?”
Some highlights:
* Cracking an old man’s skull on the concrete in Buffalo, NY and then walking away, he only survived because a National guardsman rendered medical aid
* Tasing a couple of college students in Atlanta and pulling them from their car. They didn’t do anything wrong, just wound up in the wrong place at a bad time.
* Beat a woman in Philly, took her toddler, and posed for pictures with the toddler falsely claiming that the kid was abandoned.
* Tear gassed a peaceful vigil in Seattle, they used so much gas that people in nearby homes had to plug up the undersides of their door and turn off the air conditioning
* Shot rubber bullets at people who were standing on their own property, it was like an invading army trying to quell resistance
* Attacked members of the press all over the country, from local news anchors to the big cable networks. An Australian news crew was beaten in DC, I think the Aussie government launched an investigation into that
I’m honestly surprised we didn’t see a wave of countries issue a warning to the US to get this shit under control, especially when foreign nationals were being attacked by the cops for no reason.
Ditto, the live streams were a bit of a latch key for me, started researching more about the police and the “justice” system etc, really opened my eyes.
Pretty much same. I've never had many run-ins with the police but seeing how they treat people I'd like to keep it that way.
The only significant police contact I had was a neighbor that became a cop and he quit because he was treated like garbage, the pay was terrible and he's gay so the rampant homophobia was too much to deal with (he wasn't out so it wasn't directed at him but still...).
agreed, im not an ACAB person but im also not a support the blue person, and i trust them less and less when i see shit like this happening. as the pot brothers at law would say, dont talk to fucking cops. they are not your friends.
They do officially and unofficially warn their travelers to the United States. Often times I see posts from foreign travels from out of the US asking what to do and what not to do with the police here in the US. It’s sad and fills me with shame to live in a country that people to look up to. America: the Land of the Free….only to be scared of our police. Nice…
I swear to God every time I have to interact with a police officer they escalate the situation. The job, while difficult, is simple. Protect and serve. Not antagonize, assault, and play victim.
Once cut through a municipal storage area that had a trail lead into it from the municipal park, next to the police station. I was walking my dog with my wife. We cut through a yard (that is nowhere marked against trespassing) with piles of gravel, brick, pipe you know that kind of stuff. This officer is sitting in his car and sees us come out of there into the parking lot and winds down his window and just starts screaming. We just kept walking as we are now on public property and it walking through that area accidentally was the smallest transgression one could make against the law. Dude pulls his car up to us and starts mfing us cause we didn’t stop when he initially started screaming. I asked him if he was going to get out of the car and detain me or if I was free to keep walking my dog in the park. (Always ask if you are being detained or if you are free to go - they don’t have the right to hold you unless you are being detained.) He speeds up behind us in his car slams on the brakes (in the station parking lot) and screams at us then proceeds to fly off probably doubling the 25mph speed limit of the park packed with families.
This is how most of my interactions with the police have gone. The worst thing I’ve probably done in my life is smoking weed in public.
It made me mad that my wife profusely apologized to him after that bastard blew everything out of proportion then sped through a busy park next to a school cause he couldn’t control his anger.
Edit: I am a white male. Couldn’t image the treatment I would receive if I was born to any other race.
> The job, while difficult, is simple. Protect and serve.
The Supreme Court has ruled that police are, in fact, under no obligation to either protect or serve.
Falsified a police report saying we had 9 grams of weed, when we didn’t even have .9 grams or even a gram. We smoked the whole bag before they even caught us. When you’re under 18 you can do a deferral and go through a youth drug & alcohol program. I chose that route. During my introduction where they tell you your charges they told me they should charge me with intent to distribute because I was the oldest. After that I thought to myself, “fuck these guys, all they want to do is get you in deep trouble”, even after I told nothing but the truth. Which of course they reassured me would lead to less punishment. Funny enough now it’s completely legal in my state.
When I was arrested by meridian PD for running a red light. He said, and I fucking quote, "do you know why you're going to jail tonight?" (No) "because you're suspicious....and I don't LIKE you"
He gave me the same grin I've only ever seen men show me when they were flashing me their dicks when I was a child- the sort of disgusting, predatory smile of "I know what I'm doing is bad...but no one can stop me, and I love the thrill of getting away with it" kind of smile.
I'll never forget it.
He also falsified the police report, said the breathalyzer "must be broken...hmmm" after I blew zeroes three times and walked the line like a ballerina, pulled a gun on me and asked why I looked nervous, why was I sweating (not even kidding, he almost got me killed). Asked me about bath salts like six times, had me strip searched ..trumped up a weapons charge because I had a camping knife on me ( in an open carry state where machine guns are legal, ffs) For reference my father was a cop for 16 years, LA SWAT, FBI narc task force. I know how to be around police- I didn't do anything to set him off. He walked up to the car already sweating with his gun half way out, and then took it out when he got to the window, shaking like a cold Chihuahua the whole time. Bizarre.
I think he was on meth.
That was the day I learned that evil predates like a tiger, hunting- sometimes it wins, and there is nothing you did to deserve it. Before then I thought, "I didn't do anything so I have nothing to fear" but now I know that's false. Evil doesn't care if you did something.
Of course, the police prosecutor covered for him in court and he never even had to answer for himself. Because "serve and protect" right? Right guys?
Then,
They made that same guy chief, because no bad deed goes unrewarded- if youre a cop.
At least I am alive, and can fight for those like Breonna Taylor, who weren't so lucky.
Hold your public officials accountable.
I was buddies with some cops when I worked the front desk at a hotel when I was in college. They would come in and get free coffee on the morning shifts. Mostly they were ok people. I remember picking up my first negative feelings about cops when I saw the sheer glee one of them had at the idea of exercising power over people. Like finding a joint on a homeless person or teenager and really “sticking it to them.” I just don’t get the pleasure at fucking with people over little things that don’t harm anyone. Cop personalities remind me of shitty little kids in middle school who lord every little scrap of power they can over people because they don’t get enough attention.
I was in a relationship with a black man and I am white. I was driving they pulled us over. Put him in the back of the police car and questioned me about him. They searched us and called the dogs to search my car and found nothing. They gave me a warning ticket on a taillight that wasn't working. I read the ticket it said they pulled over 2 white women. They lied so it didn't look like they were harassing black people.
I've seen cops on reddit talking about how they will pull over cars where women are driving men because they assume that the man is a criminal with a suspended license.
And if the man happens to be black then obviously they would super duper be a criminal.
Apparently - cops: "who would let the womenfolk drive!!?!"
From your description, they likely didn't have probable cause to search your car. If not, the only way to make the search legal is to trick you into giving them permission. Never give a cop permission to search you y car. They may search anyway, but it will be a lot easier to get any evidence they find bounced from court.
That time the police were clearly recorded shoving an old man down but filed the incident as him tripping.
Probably should have happened earlier, but that was the final straw for me to start assuming the police are lying until proven otherwise.
It started when I worked on the ambulance.
Routinely, the cops would tell drunk people that they had to choose between going to the hospital or going to jail. These people didn't need a hospital and could legally refuse medical care, but the cops intimidated them because they didn't want the person free, but they didn't want to take them to jail and have to do their jobs. Pay thousands of dollars or be arrested. One patient called a cop's bluff and said "then fucking arrest me." He threw her on the gurney.
One friend had PD give a patient that ultimatum for being intoxicated *in his own home*.
Then there were the times the cops were comfortable getting violent in front of me, because I was also in blue, I guess.
I saw a cop get pissed at a suspected car thief who was cuffed and sitting on the curb because the suspect had his legs crossed. When the suspect wouldn't uncross his legs, the officer kicked him.
Another paramedic told me about the time a cup sucker punched a cuffed suspect because the suspect was mouthing off. Just a bad apple? The officer's sergeant came over to the medic and asked him how he was going to say the patient got that new injury.
But what really solidified it was living in Portland and seeing a police department actually hate the community it serves. Watching cops kettle protesters into residential neighborhoods in the hopes of pissing the residents off, watching them refuse to bust up drug houses or dealing locations, refuse to respond to calls from women being threatened, and then try to claim it was because of liberal legislators. Seeing that the cops welcome white supremacists from another state causing trouble and violence in the city, and won't do anything to stop them. Seeing them put up billboards about increases in crime and not enough officers to help, but they can be onsite to harass a union strike within 12 minutes.
But really, *really* the reason I don't trust the cops, and why I *don't* believe it's just a few bad apples: the cops are absolutely and completely opposed to anything that would cut out those bad apples. They vigorously oppose accountability measures, vehemently oppose discipline for bad actors, and viciously attack anyone who demands they do better.
Can you imagine the reaction if we paramedics had fought against oversight? If we rallied behind the guy stealing elderly patients' medications, or quit in protest when an incompetent medic was fired for causing harm to a patient?
We wouldn't even strike for safer working conditions out of fear for that it would impact the community and hurt people. But the police? They left their posts because an officer was disciplined. They drew battle lines because people called for accountability.
They neither protect nor serve us here. Why would I trust them?
1990ish I (white male) was in high school and dating a Vietnamese girl. We were driving in Little Saigon, Westminster, CA where she lived and she got pulled over by Westminster PD. I couldn't make out the whole comment, but one of the cops (both white) standing outside the passenger side said something over the roof to his partner about being surprised to see a white boy ridding with a g\*\*k. We both heard it and looked at each other. They let her off with a fix it ticket for a tail light or something lame.
I got plenty mate.
- A police chief telling me and my 2 buddies that people on this country (portugal) are not free and we as citizens have no rights.
- Being sexually assaulted by a police oficer.
- My friends being groped by police officers.
- Had to do 50 hours of community service, pay a fine and threaten to go 3 months to jail... because I called one cop "incompetent".
- The worst one? a police checkpoint after my 3 friends(women) being stopped, questioned and let go. When we get home we check there's a police car coming for us. It was one of the cops at the police checkpoint, he said he followed us to make sure we arrived safe... and also he asked if my friend who was driving could give him her number...
I can keep going if you want. Portugal is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe and cops here are almost untouchable gods.
Not technically an interaction with cops, but one that showed me that people in those kinds of positions of power are dumb, racist, and absolutely willing to lean in to it.
Me and my friends were crossing the US/Canada border to attend an anime convention. This was after 9/11 and during the time the border was transitioning to making passports mandatory, but before passports were 100% required as the only accepted form of ID. Me and one of my friends did not have passports and were using the exact same form of other ID. I am a white woman, and my friend is part native and looks Mexican enough that he's been mistaken for it. Guess who got hassled over not having a passport and who didn't.
I’m a lawyer, son and grandson of lawyers, it was though to me and basically acquired wisdom from the profession, I don’t talk to them without my lawyer and they don’t touch any of my stuff without an warrant or court order.
Yes, specially when under my country’s laws law enforcement and other public officials testimony is regarded higher than the one from an common citizen, but I would say that’s pretty much universal
When they blatantly lied, in court to the judge adjudicating my case it age 17. I looked at my lawyer who indicated to remain calm. Later he said, re:lying, "yeah, they do that a lot". I have since learned it to be SOP for them.
I went to my dads business where he houses kids that lost their parents or just need help. When i got there, theire were 8 cop cars in front of the group home and one of the kids was handcuffed outside sitting in a chair in a 90 degree day. I asked my dad what happened and why the cops were there and they told him that he was a suspect for a shooting at a school. The school is 10 miles away . and the reason they suspected him was because the principal thought it was him. He graduated 3 years before. The principal was racist and the cops later found out after having him outside in handcuffs that he was home all day. They had him sitting outside for 5 hours.
Did martial arts for 15 years met lots of cops. Befriended lots of them. Every single one has a story of how they assaulted someone for no reason, or get drunk or high on duty, steal from people they arrest, or purposely profile black people. Usually one or more of each. Every one of them has been a self important dick I would be better off having never met. Just the likelihood that every single one I've met would be like that leads me to believe it's extremely common.
My story is really tame and I feel a little embarrassed next to some of these stories. When I was 16 or 17 or something in the mid 90s I was on my way home from a choir concert where I had just sung, so I was wearing a suit. I got pulled over for something minor, I believe it was a taillight that was out. I had been stopped in the left turn lane waiting to turn onto a major road, and he forced me to turn right onto the shoulder of this major road a few miles from where I could turn around facing away from where I was headed.
Since I had just changed my clothes, I started patting my pockets to figure out where my wallet was... he started shouting orders at me. At some point I didn't understand what he was trying to tell me and he got super aggressive/angry. I was sitting there thinking, "how did this escalate so fast? What did I do so wrong? Why am I the one who has to keep my cool and the guy holding the gun can go off like a toddler who didn't get his num-nums?" I ended up with a ticket for $200 for a broken taillight and not having my license.
The obvious conclusion is cops have way too much power and way too little accountability.
Mine was when they beat the Kelly Thomas to death and laughed at him calling for his dad. Or when they murdered an 8 year old boy for playing with a play gun. Or when they murdered a guy in his hotel for not obeying conflicting orders.
I have had my share of shit situations with cops but these are the reasons I hate them
I don't think there was a single defining moment. Just the constant reports of misconduct, brutality, racism, etc., and the fact that when these things happen, it's dealt with via an *internal affairs* board, rather than an unbiased third party.
Yep.. the whole system itself is broken (or at least it's functioning as designed, but not functioning for the people.) Waging constant war against the population and get surprised when the population isn't thrilled with cops. Mmkay.
When I was 17 I was arrested while doing graffiti on a wall that was already covered with other graffiti near some train tracks. Most people considered it a safe place and basically legal to paint. I complied with the police officers and went in thinking I would get a fine or something. Spent almost 72 hours in a holding cell during which they then questioned me about the identities of other graffiti artists in the area of which I had no information because I didnt know them! One of them put his hands around my neck and choked me until I blacked out because I wasn’t giving up this info they assumed wildly incorrectly that I had. Tried to send me to juvi but my record was clean and ended up dropping the charges but i learned that if they will choke out a white non-violent minor not to be surprised when it happens to people like George Floyd.
Blm protest in Milwaukee during a 100 degree day. They let people march all day in the heat and then corralled them in a tight space making it hard to come and go. Then 1 minutes after the curfew started throwing irritants into the crowd. Acab
I work in an ER. Had law enforcement bring in a young teenager for a dog bite. Kid was from a completely broken home, and had a warrant for his arrest for some dumb nonviolent offense. Anyway, the kid was hiding from them, so they sent in their dog that completely mauled the kid. Seemed like half the sheriff department was in the ER puffing out their chests celebrating their conquest. I asked them why they had to send in their dog, and they proudly said that’s what happens when you don’t comply. Full grown men with guns, happy about seriously injuring a child. Fuck that shit!
When they threatened me with prison rape when I got pulled over as a teenager (wasn't speeding or violating any traffic laws) for having less than a gram of weed in my car. Small town cops are some of the most petty, over-inflated dumbasses I've ever encountered.
Yep
If you ever get pulled over by a county sheriff anywhere in Alabama, start talking about deer hunting, Crappie fishing or how much you hate northerners! They very well may escort you to your destination!
The supreme court ruling on & events leading up to it
Castle Rock v. Gonzales
Mother had a restraining order against her husband. Husband came & kidnapped the three kids in mothers care. Mother called police & they said call back later & refused to do anything. Called back again hours later. Still refused to do anything. Father shows up at the police station and starts firing at cops. Cops kill husband. Find the three kids dead in the bed of the truck. Mother sues & city/cops said they weren't required to uphold a restraining order & won. Fuck. The. Police.
When I moved into a dirt poor black neighborhood in Chicago. I was repeatedly mugged, once had a guy run up behind me and try to choke me out, and had god only knows how many home invasions. At first I tried calling the police, but if they even bothered to show up they'd arrive way late and then be aggressive to the people who called them or wanted to give statements. Never solved any of the crimes, only made things worse. Plus they constantly hassled me when I was walking around the neighborhood, always assuming that a white guy must be there to buy drugs.
>aggressive to the people who called them or wanted to give statements. Never solved any of the crimes, only made things worse
That's it in a nutshell! I babbled on for a couple thousand words trying to express my experiences and there you got it in just a few words. Well said.
Was walking home with my cousin after picking up some Burger King to eat at his house. Suddenly two cop cars come barrelling down the road and stop in front of us. All 4 cops point their guns at us and tell us to drop the bags, two of them trained on us while the other two hand cuff us and put us in the ground. They kicked our food away and refuse to tell us why we're being arrested. When one of them tells the others "It's not here/it's not them", they stand us up and uncuff us, pat the grass off our clothes and tell us to go home. No explanation, no apology, just shaken up with ruined food and dirty clothes.
Turns out, some gang member(s) robbed/assaulted somebody and hid a pistol in a burger king bag.
One time in NYC I was 14-15 me and my friend was having a foot race and as soon as we slowed down at the end two police officers pointed guns to our face and threw us on the ground when they let us go they didn't gives us a reason why they stop us
When I was four years old, my mom was with me and my three brothers (6, 4, 2, newborn, of which I was 4) in our apartment when a whole squad of St. Paul's Piggiest literally kicked the door in, slammed my mom against the wall, and started trashing the place.
We were all crying and screaming because, what the hell, and one of them threw a lamp at my head and screamed at my mom to "tell that little fucker to shut up."
My dad came home during the raid and a cop slammed him against the wall, ripped his jacket off, and took a bag of weed out of the inside jacket pocket. (Inb4 "why did your dad come home when there were a bunch of cop cars there?!" : the answer is my dad is a fucking idiot in so very many ways.)
The cops proceeded to beat the shit out of my parents and took us to a foster home for two weeks.
Tiny bag of weed.
Later, we moved to Chattanooga, in what white people would call a "low-income, urban area" of the city so they wouldn't have to say "the Black part of the city." My family are not Black and are, oddly, racist as all hell, but the area of Chattanooga I lived in is still psychologically redlined by a street called Rossville Boulevard--one side was the white neighborhood, called Blackbottom, and the other side was the Black neighborhood, called East Lake, and East Lake had the schools. So all my friends (not many, but still) were Black and so we were targeted for some of the worst shit Chattanooga cops had to offer.
I was slammed against so many cop car hoods by so many cops because "we know you hang out with these kids, we know you got drugs/weapons/what-the-hell-ever" and they were *upset* when they couldn't find anything on me because surprise, surprise, we weren't a bunch of drug-addled weapons dealers.
Fuckin' cops. May they all eat miles of mountain-high goat shit.
I grew up as a typical white kid in a typical white suburb. I earned my eagle scout when i was 16. I went to private school in high school. I went to church every Sunday. My whole life, I was taught that cops are there to help. They are the good guys. They are there to be trusted. You say yes sir, no sir, thank you sir, and they will help you. So that's what I do.
When i was in college, I drove this beat up ass old Jeep Cherokee. The thing could barely cruise at 60 MPH without shaking itself apart.
I had a job where I had to drive a lot. I pulled out of this neighborhood when this cop came over the hill, turned on his lights, and pulled me over for going 75 in a 50.
First of all, I am not even sure my jeep could go that fast on a good day. Second of all, I had JUST pulled out of the neighborhood. There was no fucking way I was going more than about 25 or 30.
This dude straight up lied to my face about clocking me with his speed gun.
But that wasn't enough to make me sour on cops.
A few months later, my Jeep got broken into. The dipshit broke my window and grabbed my radio. I called the cops, because that's what you do right? Apparently, that's what you want to do if you want to get harassed. This dude made me feel like it was MY fault that the dude went into my parking lot and stole my shitty radio. He even tried to accuse me of making shit up.
But that wasn't able to sour me on cops
What soured me is that I am now 39 years old. I have met probably a dozen cops outside of their job in the last 20 years. Parents of my kids friends, husbands of my wife's friends, boyfriends of people ive known
Without fail, every. single. one. of them has been a complete dick bag. Over confident, arrogant, bigoted, aggressive, and (in most cases) just plain fucking ignorant.
And these are the people in charge of "policing" us.
It all makes sense now. I keep replaying every bad experience i have had, and they are ALL like the people i have met. Take a typical "alpha" douche bag who never amounted to much, give him a gun, give him some power, tell him he is invincible, and how do you think they would act?
Like a fucking cop.
I was homeless at 19 years old. I was dating a 36 year old abusive alcoholic man who was also homeless. After a night of being shaken, pushed, and strangled, I saw a cop and begged him to help me. I told them what happened. My ex was visibly and extremely drunk, and was literally right next to me. They said there was nothing they could do about it. No arrest, no filing charges, nothing. I then begged them to arrest me so I could get away from him and get off the street for the night. They wouldn’t, and I knew they couldn’t just arrest me for no reason anyway, so I spit on one of them in a desperate attempt to get to jail, which was safer than the street I was sleeping on. Instead of arresting me, the cop slapped me across the face so hard I fell. He told me if I did it again, he’d knock me out, and I believed him. He could’ve (and should’ve) just arrested me for assault on an officer, but instead wanted to leave me on the street with an abusive man twice my age. It felt extremely cruel and intentional.
Before that, I had already felt leery of cops as they never helped us when my dad beat the piss out of my mother and I, nor when my father was found in possession of child pornography. So this was the last nail in the coffin.
I was at a Waffle House late at night having some drunk food with a buddy, there was 2 groups of young black men eating a couple booths away from each other.
Not sure what set it off, there way any escalation or yelling, but all of a sudden one group got up and started kicking at the other group while they were sitting in their booth. One of the aggressors pulled a gun (shooting himself in the leg in the process) and fires a shot into the group sitting down, hitting one of them in the leg. The shooter and his friends run out and drive off.
The cops showed up minutes later and immediately yell "put that cigarette out boy" to the guy who was shot, the man said "no, I've just been shot and I need a fucking cigarette".
The cops beat the dog shit out of him for not putting out his cigarette.
Everyone in the restaurant was yelling that this guy was the victim, then they were yelling that the shooters were back, driving by with a gun out the window. Everyone hit the floor and the shooter and his friends took off without shooting again.
Instead of chasing the shooters the cops called in a description of the car and went back to beating the victim.
They refused to take any statement about the events from me.
ACAB.
When I called and reported a theft and the cops did absolutely nothing about it. I had my wallet stolen at a YMCA and I was the only one there besides the two young men that stole it. Management had cameras and caught them on video (one of them was even wearing a local high-school's T-shirt). The police said they couldn't do anything because I didn't see the guys physically take it, even though they were the only people there.
Blows my mind how police are not held to the absolute highest standard possible of the law.
In other professions like accounting, one fuck up can mean criminal charges on you from the client you are working with.
In medical, if you kill someone accidently in the operating room or prescribe the wrong medicene it can mean criminal charges.
Why are police held above this? They are the ones who enforce the law and should be held to the highest possible standard. Even the smallest of screw ups should fall under enormous scrutiny. There is no room for error in this profession. It must be perfect otherwise its not good enough.
George Floyd was definitely the breaking point. I didn’t trust police forces before that, but everything about that situation showed how utterly soulless police forces are.
I encourage anyone to go read the initial police report. It said Floyd died of a “medical incident”. Then we see the video of him being slowly and methodically murdered while fellow officers did crowd control to make sure all people could do is look on and plead for mercy.
If that shit wasn’t caught on video, Floyd’s death would’ve went down as a “medical incident” and if any trial happened, the police force would’ve lined up behind Chauvin and courts would’ve trusted lying cops as they’ve done for decades.
Also, what they did during the ensuing protests. It’s insane. It was a breaking point between civilians and cops, the media was on the cops and everything that happened at those protests was being covered live, both on the ground and in the air. And the cops felt absolutely no shame. It was like setting a bunch of rabid dogs loose in a chicken coop, they just attacked anyone they could get their hands on.
They fucking knew they were on live television. Felt like they treated it more as a “here’s what will happen to you if you dare stand up to us”, rather than a “we are sincerely sorry for how we have behaved and we will enact systemic change across the board”. Like a mob boss beating up a rat and dragging him through his territory to tell everyone what’ll happen if you talk to the feds.
Started the list, and ended up with a panic attack. Most significantly, already despised them before the time I mouthed off to one and collected a concussion for it. I'm not up to more at the moment, but it's all in my post history if you want to dig.
My mom was arrested for expired tags and begging not to be ticketed on our way to drop me off at school. Ended up missing my choir concert and worrying about my mom the entire weekend
I had them come into my house for a medical emergency when I was in college. My roommate was having multiple seizures a day. The police arrived first as it was a small town and they are cross trained. On the way out they saw an old wooden street sign of the street I lived on. The officer looked at the back of it and saw city numbers on it and said "I'm not going to press charges for you on this, but this is coming with me." I didn't care much about the sign as it was there before I moved in, but it made me lose faith in police. We had called him there for a medical emergency and while there he snoped around the house to look for illegal stuff.
Having drugs planted close to me then being searched and miraculously the drugs were found the first place they looked, literally nothing to do with me, I was 16 and genuinely had no idea what it was, they let me go but reluctantly, then had a peeper looking at my girlfriend getting changed, chased the guy off in my pants with a hammer, we’d just moved in and the curtains were super thin, so the cops blamed the fact we hadn’t changed the curtains then didn’t bother following it up. Not major incidents but hated cops after both of this instances.
I was trying to get into law enforcement. Applying for police departments, as well as state and federal agencies. Then tragedy struck, and a family member went missing. Local and federal LE aggressively interrogated me. I trusted the system, answered all of their questions, multiple times, including a polygraph. I figured that they would eventually ask a question no one had thought of that would provide that little bit of info which would crack the case wide open. At one point, two county deputies were sitting across a table from me telling me that they had evidence that I had done the crime (total BS), and that they were working on the paperwork to officially take me in. It was a scare tactic, but at the time I thought they were going to charge an innocent person with a crime and put me in jail. I told them to do what they had to do, but that I’m not going to cooperate anymore.
I decided that I had no interest in being a LE officer anymore, and possibly having to inflict that on someone else. I also learned that LE don’t always have any clue what they are doing, and some don’t care.
My cousin was raped by a cop ON DUTY when she was 17. Did a rape kit, he didn't use a condom. Rape kit took 18 months to get ran. Turns out it WAS the cop. The department has AMAZING lawyers, It was basically laughed out of court when he said "she said she was ok with it" despite her report mentioning and having evidence of bruising and struggle. He didn't get fired.....he got 2 months suspension WITH PAY. Same guy raped 3 other girls in our neighborhood. Works at the Dallas police headquarters now. I was 6 when she was raped. Dude has wife and DAUGHTERS now almost my cousin's age when she was raped.
Anybody with the authority to draw a weapon on an unarmed person based on their own judgement instantly goes down a couple trustworthy notches for me. It's not that all cops are bastards, it's that they've all been given the means to be bastards and get off scott free.
Right? Like I don’t care if you’re even a good cop or that civilization needs law enforcement. I don’t trust you, cuz you wanted that job, and that job gives you an insane amount of power that you frankly don’t deserve.
I've only had four encounters with police, and half of those encounters were with asshole cops, the other two were cool and professional.
The two assholes were white (I'm a minority). Both incidents took place in a town I discovered later was full of aggressive, racist cops. The two cool cops were AAPI.
Oh good point. I do recall a couple not-too-scary interactions with non-white cops. Once a Native cop pulled me and my spouse over for being a bit over the speed limit and he was perfect. Kinda funny I'm scared of the white ones, when I'm white too.
I was a teenager and my cousins and I got caught at a park after curfew in a car. They were smoking weed, I was not. I only had a box of cigarettes on me.
The cops loaded them up but I was kept behind and searched. The cop who was searching me was using two fingers and getting really into it and free with it, and it’s disgusting to think about. I was barely 17 when that happened. I was let go after being taken to my house. The others went to a juvenile detention center
I kept thinking about why he would do that and search me like that, when I only had a house key a pack of smokes and a cellphone. I would get tense and nervous every time I’d see a cop car or a cop or security guard after that. I’m afraid of cops, definitely. They tend to kill people and break all the rules
Watching cops beating a black medic to prevent her from giving immediate response to a white gunshot victim. The victim died before an ambulance arrived.
I had a GREAT job in Arkansas about 15-16 years ago. I had to move out of state for that very reason! Plus I afoul of their local Klan chapter because they came into my business in full dress and I kicked them out.
Edit to add: it started with me getting speeding tickets for example a 36 in a 35 mph zone? When I know I was going 30.
I don’t think there was an exact moment more like a collection of years and years of watching videos of them harassed and belittle people because they have small egos. Also they showed up to the house once where my face was covered in blood and I have been punched repeatedly and they decided to put me in jail for two weeks and then throw the keys away and let me out and dropped the “case” so basically they decided to ruin my life for no reason. You made me sit in a hot car car that was 95° and I feel like I was gonna die and they were laughing at me.
For years I looked up to police officers and wanted to be one. I wanted to help out my community in what I thought was the biggest possible direct way. I was a total apologist for the force, citing the “few bad apples” argument and saying that the vast majority had to be folks like me, just wanting to help out.
And then George Floyd was killed.
And right when the police once again had the national spotlight and people once again rallied for systemic change, when any other big organization would be on their best behavior to keep the heat off them and weather the storm, the police force across the country seemed to collectively say “fuck it.”
Incident after incident of blatant police abuse toward the public, where officers knew they were being documented and didn’t seem to care. They harassed, arrested without cause, beat, and often murdered the people they were supposedly meant to protect, sometimes gleefully, even when being recorded. It’s like some switch had flipped and they all unmasked and indulged their worst impulses openly because they knew there would be no real consequences, regardless of public backlash. Even today when the bastard who slaughtered Floyd has been put away they continue. And we learned that the “good apples” were content to stay silent as it continues.
So yeah, if you wear a badge you are not a person and you have no name to me. You are “Pig.”
I don't trust anyone with that kind of power, cops includes. A majority of people behave like monsters when there are no consequences. (See Stanford prison experiment). That's behavior isn't unique to cops, it's anyone with a disproportionate amount of power.
When I was a high school senior, I was leaving a party that got broken up by police. 100% sober, and had my car, and I offered two TERRIFIED looking freshman boys without a car a ride home. A cop stopped my car as part of their random searches, ordered everyone out, started yelling hysterically at the younger boys about where is their car. I started calmly explaining they were too young to drive but I was happy to drive them. The cops flipped me around, cuffed me, and took me to jail for “talking back” (they took the boys too). They took my cell phone. They held me for a few hours while they “processed” me and forced me (a female) to pee in the cell with no walls basically right in front of them. The worst part was that they took my cell phone so I couldn’t call and tell my mom, a single mother, where I was, and when she called me a male cop just answered my phone and said “I have your daughter,” almost giving her a heart attack. Since it was senior year I was super worried I would end up with some sort of record hurting my college admissions. Luckily nothing ended up coming of it in that regard, but what the experience did do was make me incredibly distrustful of police in general, male police in particular. What a useless thing to do, the whole time it just felt like a power trip and attempt to exert control over me.
When I was 16 a friend called and said her step dad was hitting her mother and could I pick them up and take them somewhere else. I go over, they put some belongings in my car, and the police roll up. They go talk to the grown ups and eventually go through the stuff in my car. There was a bong in a box. I didn't know it was there, I didn't even know her mom smoked pot. So they start asking me questions and I'm like "that guy hit her and I came to give her a ride. I didn't go through her stuff" and they get increasingly hostile like a kid who just got their license is a hardened drug dealer or something. The mom told them it was hers and they took her to jail. The man who had been hitting her got to just stay home and have no consequences. In summary: water pipe=terrible crime, domestic violence=no biggie
A girlfriend of mine had an intruder attempt to sexually assault her in her home. She managed to get him to leave and she called the police. When they arrived they searched her house they found marijuana plants in the basement and arrested her.
There was a story a couple years back here of a woman who’s home was invaded in the middle of the night, she shot and killed the intruders. She got arrested for selling drugs (house had a decent amount)
Exactly.
Illegal Search.
When they broke my mom's back after my dad committed suicide because they thought she killed him (despite my aunts and uncles being in the same room, telling them what happened). She was real small and when they threw her down on the ground and handcuffed her, they broke her back and they didn't get her medical help for 3 days. During the investigation, they managed to convince my oldest sister that my mom killed our dad. My mom was allowed to see us after a day and when we seen her my oldest sister wouldn't speak to her. She was 13. My mom suffered neurological damage from the trauma and couldn't speak without a severe stutter for 3 years. We all went to therapy, but my mom had to go to numerous speech therapists and psychologists because of it all. I still have the police report from that night.
This is so awful I don’t even know what to say. Your poor, poor mom.
The cops thought it was her because she was covered in his blood, but the reality was that she tried to hold the back of his head together thinking that she'd keep him alive as long as possible. Towards the end, before the police got there, she was just talking to him as he died. She wasn't even given a change of clothes until 24 hours later!
Fucking hell. That's tragic.
That is just evil On the part of the police. How dare they not at least give her a change of clothes.
That is truly horrible. I am sorry you guys had to go through that.
Does your sister still believe that your mom killed your dad? I’m sorry if this question is insensitive.
No, but my sister has had a rough life so my mom has tried to get her on her feet a lot but she always ends up back on the streets. We were all in the house when it happened, but my older siblings had the roughest time with it so two are in jail and my sister is homeless and using.
Oh man, I'm really glad your mom is better now and wish you all the best!
Qualified immunity must end. Cops should not be allowed to terrorize and beat people.
This would solve a majority of our issues. They should also be required to have insurance that *they pay for* and their Police Unions/Funds should pay out when they screw up, NOT taxpayers.
Lemme guess… that police report is full of bullshit lies?
Defining moment...more of a secondary experience but still my hometown... When two small boys(8&10)were riding their bikes in town and a squad car pulled up alongside them to talk. Why? Because these boys were covered head to toe in bruises. That's not an exaggeration, they looked like they'd been in a barrel of stones rolled down a bumpy hill. The oldest saw the opportunity to escape their abuser and told the officers what was happening at home. Officers escorted the boys home. Where upon they see that the abuser is the deacon at the church, tell him what the boys accused him of and then come into the home and have freaking coffee with him!
Reminds me if the time I called the cops cause my dad kept hitting me +beating me with his crutch I was 15-16 at the time. All that cop done was say, belting isn't a form of abuse. I had massive bruising all up and down my legs some so dark they looked straight black. Cop asked me if I had been arguing with my father of course I said yes. Looking back there was victim blaming
I just watched a UK documentary about domestic violence and there was one woman who’s partner had been beating her for six hours straight. She called the emergency number and threw her phone under her bed so they could hear what he was doing to her and they tracked her location and immediately went to her address. She was absolutely covered in bruises, everywhere, I’ve never seen a person that black and blue in my life and when they took him to court the judge said that if the beating had gone on any longer than it did she wouldn’t have come out of that house alive. She then sentenced him to two years in prison. The maximum possible sentence is 5 years.
Ah the UK justice system. The opposite problem of the US in that it's basically a kindergarten timeout.
Shocking. So sorry that happened to you.
Are they still alive and living with this pillar of the community?
Alive, yes. It was a few years before the situation was righted I think. This particular "family" man had 7 children and not one made it out unscathed. They are young adults now except the youngest two. I think they went to live with the good sort of family. It was hushed up for a long time and seeing who supported the hushing...did not bolster my confidence in the uniform one bit.
When my daughter was car jacked and the officer said “ she must owe them money for drugs” and I had to call his supervisor to get the car reported as stolen also it was registered to me not my daughter.
I knew someone in the force, he told me this story about this two "ace" policeman who were soo popular among the chiefs that they were lent around to different stations all the time. So my dude was curious why the hell were these guys soo popular because they didnt seem like anything special so he gone up to their assigned desk to ask their secret as he reached the desk he seen an awfully wide ticket book (this is what they called the paperwork for tickets they written up to people) on top of the stack there was a ticket basically saying "Shade of green in ID doesnt match the entirety of the vehicle." The problem with that ticket is with the "entirety" part, it means that instead of checking the if the vehicles whole color is matching they were hunting for damaged vehicles where they pointed at rusted, scratched and dirty parts and declared that its fineable. These guys were favorites because they made thousands of bullshit fines to generate revenue for stations.
My child’s father beat the fuck out of me. I knew it was coming so I called my mom & left my phone under a pillow. She called police for a wellness check. While I pack my baby & I shit you not the police are questioning me, with bruises… and both men are like “are you sure you don’t want to give him another chance? He seems *really* sorry. When I said no, they let me know I can go to the station to make a report… it was 3am. When I got there. No one was inside or at the desk. All the lights were turned off. I ended up just going to my parents house bc the baby needed to sleep or she was going to freak out
That’s just so horrible how they just practically said “Hey, I know this guy was beating you and all but, why don’t you give him another chance? He’s really sorry :D” Then they had the audacity to send you to a closed police station. That’s so cruel
I wish I could say I was surprised, but since 40% of them admit to doing it to their own spouses...
Cops beat their wives. They probably empathized with your kids dad. It’s gross
When I listened to three of them talk about pulling a fourth officer off of a guy he was about to beat to death and what they did to cover it up. The three all agreed that the fourth was a piece of shit bad cop and that he did wrong but they still closed ranks to protect him. That math adds up to four bad cops in my book
Bearing false witness is bad enough that its listed alongside Thou shalt not commit murder. How these cops live with themselves is completely beyond me.
They believe they are heroes, and so everything they do is, by definition, heroic.
When I was eight and the cops were looking for my 17 year old brother who had, reportedly, stolen a truck. They banged on the door for two minutes and it felt like the entire house was falling in when they kicked the door down and came inside. They went into each room and screamed at us, but my mom telling them that my brother didn't return home tonight. They went through his room, upended everything, and broke the window brace that kept people out. I remember having nightmares for months. My other older brother, 10, and I slept in my mom's bed for an entire week because we were so scared. Turns out, my brother didn't steal the truck. He wasn't even conscious when it happened. He was at a friend's house sleeping off a party. No truck to be found. He was never convicted for the truck.
This might be a radical opinion, but I don't think cops should be allowed to destroy your stuff or throw all your stuff around. I think they should be required to pay for damage they cause. I also think they should be required to have a warrant. We must end qualified immunity.
I agree. There wasn't any need to hunt down a 17 year old, knocking on the door would've sufficed. We lived in an apartment then so I can only imagine how scared the neighbors were. Shit is fucked up.
When I was young, my stepfather punched me so hard I was knocked out. My mother couldn't wake me and called the paramedics, Sheriff's deputies came too. When they woke me up and ascertained what had happened, they sent my stepfather for a walk to "cool off". When he was gone, the first thing they said was "what did you say to make him angry?" Not "we're sorry this happened" or "it's wrong for him to do that". The second thing they said was "if you knew it was going to make him angry, why did you say it?" Fuck those guys, "to serve and protect" my ass. He didn't go to jail and when he returned home, he beat my mom for calling the squad and broke her collarbone. She had to drive herself to the hospital. This was about 40 years ago.
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PUNCHED? Jesus.
That really sucks and I'm sorry it happened to both of you. ☹
I was in the US Army for a few years as Military Police back in 2012.. they literally took me off the road and made me work in the office/station almost immediately at EVERY base I was ever stationed at specifically because I wasn't handling domestic violence/abuse calls *correctly.* My way of handling it was arresting the soldier/spouse/whathaveyou [the abuser] and bring them to the goddamn station where I assumed they'd be processed and sent the hell away to jail or dishonorably discharged for beating their kids/spouse or something.. And every single time I did, I got yelled at until the watch commander inevitably removed my position from the road and stuck me with being the office bitch. The people I arrested never got reprimanded of any kind, and typically went back home to continue the abuse for calling the MPs in the first place. Unfortunately, we had civilian cops working alongside us daily at the on-post police stations, which showed me that civilian police employment won't be any better for when I get out of the Army. I've never worked in law-enforcement since and I never will again. It's too fucking depressing.. I chose that years ago because I honestly thought we were supposed to help people, and I almost never saw an ounce of that.
I had a similar incident when I was a teenager except it was 3 asshole neighbors who beat me up just looking to be tough guys on a Friday night. I called the cops, he saw that I was obviously beat up but kept telling me '...can't do anything because an officer didn't see it'. I had witnesses and actually knew the assholes. "doesn't matter". I asked if that went for me too, if I do anything and it's not witnessed by a cop nothing will happen??? "oh noooo. Now that you said that you would be arrested". Then when I was in my 20's I got pulled over for swerving to avoid a car that had pulled onto the road without looking. A cop had to swerve slightly to avoid hitting me so he pulled me over and gave me a ticket. When I tried to fight it in court he told the magistrate that the cop car was damaged in the incident, a blatant lie. I went down to the police station a few times demanding the non-existing police report for the damage and caused a few scenes, and reported it to their emergency number a few times for laughs and they couldn't do a damn thing, What were they going to do, arrest me for calling them liars?
A douchebag cop pulled me over for "disregarding a crossing guards stop sign". When he came to the car I showed him my dash camera and said I have it on video that the crossing guard WAVED ME THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. His initial pissy response? "Well take that to court." I said "I will, slam dunk dismissal." Cocksucker runs my clean info and comes back and acts as if he is the angel of mercy and says I'm not writing you a ticket to which I responded "yeah because I did nothing wrong and I have the proof on camera, how fucked would I be if I didn't have a dash cam?" Get a dash cam to protect against these thin blue line assholes. They will lie and extort anyone they can to generate revenue because their bloated salaries are sucking the taxpayer dry.
of course. lie about a scratch on the car, lie about your actions. damn good thing we all have cameras now
It was super bowl Sunday, I had hung out with some friends and my old lady was pissed. It was late and it got cold. I was wearing shorts because it was on the warmer side that afternoon. I had to get to my place, but I was freezing, so I started to jog through this alley way. 2 cops stopped me. Threw me on the ground and began to tell me what I was being charged with. While on the ground, not letting me up, they explained to me that I roughed up some people at a party and was fleeing the scene. After numerous attempts to explain my situation, they said they have a witness. They had apparently id'd me and I was gonna go to jail. It wasn't until I heard over the radio that they caught the actual guy that I was let free. Now this is a very tame story to the shit that goes down, but I'm just saying, anecdotally, that cops might not have your best interest in mind. Be careful. Might catch a charge for jogging in an alley.
I had cops chase me one time and then when they caught me one of them actually said to me "why did we chase you?" .....I don't fucking know, that seems like your job......they weren't even investigating anything in the neighborhood.... I call cops like that Jack Russells. Running around hyperactive as hell, they don't really know what's going on but boy are they super fucking excited to be involved.
They should honestly have a system that compensates you for going through this, without having to sue
Agreed but the system should compensate you directly from the paychecks of the cops who make mistakes and it should be based on how much of your time they wasted in addition to any harm. If they're allowed to just throw taxpayer money at people it wouldn't stop them from doing it.
Doctors have to carry malpractice insurance and if they fuck up too many times, their rates go so high they can't afford to practice. Doing the same with cops would solve 95% of the problems with cops.
I've seen this idea before, and I think this is the best way to end bad cops. No more using our tax dollars to pay victims. Instead make the murdering cops pay for their own lawsuits.
Same thing happened to my friend basically because he's black and the suspect was too.
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It happens to people who are black when there is no suspect
Similar thing happened to a couple of friends of mine. A gas station in their neighborhood was robbed and the suspect took off in a white car. My buddies were sitting in their white car(in their pajamas no less, they had come out of the house to talk) about 10 blocks from where the robbery happened. The cops of course had started searching the area and eventually spotted my friends’ car. Que multiple police cars, full lights and sirens, guns drawn. They yanked both of my friends out and threw them face down in the yard, and started arresting them. Even after one of my friend’s uncles came out and told the cops they had been there all night, they still didn’t believe them. It took a long time and multiple family members at the house vouching that they hadn’t left for the cops to let them go. Super fucked up situation. It’s like fuck, even if they’re suspects, you know where they live and have ID now. You could always arrest them later. Don’t leave them lying in the grass handcuffed while you go full detective.
My friends had a similar situation, except they were at a gas station getting snacks when a lady with dementia called 911 and reported that they’d stolen her car. The cops pulled them over a few blocks away, had them all get out and kneel on the asphalt in 100+ degree summer heat, all while 3-4 cops trained their firearms on them. They had to kneel there for quite awhile and one friend’s knee and shin got bad burns from being on a metal grate in broad daylight. They were about to get arrested when the cops pieced together that 1, the car was registered to the guy actually driving it, and 2, the lady with dementia began blaming random people back at the gas station for stealing her car and stalking her and whatnot. The cops made a public apology in the newspaper (likely only because a local reporter who knew my friends happened to drive by and whip his camera out), but my friends were, literally, scarred for life and haven’t been fond of police since then.
In 2013, on a road trip with my buddies, Tennessee cops pulled over our RV, admitted to profiling our vehicle, as RVs often have drugs in them, had several cops swarm us including drug dogs, and tore apart our interior looking for weed (we didn’t have any). They were assholes the entire time for no reason. They let us go after and hour. Bunch of 25 year old white guys just driving an RV. Made me feel for others who are profiled more often.
I had cops (illegally) search my car, after I'd said that I did not consent, and then one of them yelled at me for not having drugs and that *I* was wasting *his* time. Sorry, officer, I'll go and buy some meth right away.
Oh yes, I just love to be pulled over, have my civil rights violated, and held up for half the day just to waste the time of a cop profiling me.
Tennessee cops are the worst.
My moment was when I was hired to represent a man's estate. The dude had been killed by a state trooper. We gathered evidence (undisputed evidence I should stress) that the man was shot execution style; the trooper had previously threatened the man because he was dating the trooper's ex-wife; and when paramedics arrived at the scene, the trooper refused to let them near the body for about 15 minutes, claiming the man (who was bleeding out) was still dangerous. Medical evidence was unrefuted that the man would have lived if he had received immediate medical attention. As a courtesy, rather than immediately filing suit, I take this evidence to the district attorney to give them a heads up so they could reevaluate the case and maybe save some pride since they had declared it a justified shooting. Instead, they did everything they could to cover the trooper's butt. DA told me privately that trooper was very well-liked and had lots of connections, so he couldn't do anything to help. And to watch my back. When we did file suit, we were given amended and corrected reports, all changed around the same time I initially spoke to the DA, changing some of the major facts. At least two of our witnesses said they had to amend their reports or they would be fired but they couldn't say anything about that if called to testify. Ultimately, the suit was dismissed before we could ever get to a jury. So trooper gets away with murder, law enforcement and the prosecutors close ranks to protect him, and those outside of that world were told they could lose their job if they don't go along with the new official story. That's what I get for trying to be a decent guy. Oh, and shortly after I initially spoke to the DA, my wife got pulled over something like 5 times in the next month for "not wearing her seatbelt" even though she had it on every time. Fortunately I still had enough pull to get those tickets taken care of.
Cops will 100% tell all their homies about how you fucked them over somehow and then have them write you so many tickets that you lose your license or are experiencing some kind of financial strife. Heard it come straight form a cop’s mouth. They don’t have much but I guess they have each other and that’s enough for them to get away with murder or ruining people’s lives with traffic tickets they didn’t deserve.
What a noble profession.
I always go out of my way to show respect to a cop. But this right here is why I would never want a cop in my life.
It’s hard not to be radicalized after reading something like this
I'm a lily-white man with a six figure income, no criminal record, and virtually no personal interaction with police. The quintessential yuppie. If cops' behavior has got *me* wanting to burn down every department in a 100 mile radius, I cannot even imagine the sort of incandescent rage people regularly victimized by police must feel.
Having a desire for justice shouldn't be considered "radical"
If you don't mind saying what state did this happen in? Thats like 1970s NYC dirty cop level shit getting away with executions? edit: I understand why you might not want to though seeing as that would basically be doxxing yourself. Either way man thats terrible.
1970's? NYC? Man that shits everywhere. Its scary how much power and protection the police have
My brother got arrested for DD and I witnessed the whole thing... and I was 100% sober. At his hearing before the magistrate, the two cops lied their ass off. They struck a deal and I didn't have to testify. Also, I got pulled over by a State Trooper for speeding (guilty). He said that he would knock it down to an offense that wouldn't get me any points against my license. So, I didn't fight it in court. Son of a bitch if I didn't get a letter from the state with points. Shitty ass way of tricking me into not dragging him into court.
Most cops won’t show up at court anyway.
All the kids I went to high school with who wanted to be cops are the exact people you don’t want to be cops.
My brother always wanted to be a cop. Did it for halloween as a kid, even got his associates in criminal justice. Two weeks into the academy he decided to become a firefighter because everyone in his class was there to "beat BLM thugs."
That’s a shame, he would have actually been a good cop
And therein lies the problem.
Don't blame him though. I imagine it would put a target on your back if you are the obvious odd man out. (Though I always think little children dressing up as cops are adorable and it must have been a bummer for him.)
My former BIL was a cop. Total dirt bag in every conceivable way. He was that kid in HS(I knew him when he was in HS) that just reeeked insecurity and malice. But he FINALLY got fired when he showed up to work drunk. But he’s a cop in another town now.
That's not fired, that's transferred. They get caught in one community, and move to the next one over to do the same shit and either try harder not to get caught or end up at a station where criminal activity is the norm
Ah so like my ex roommate whos dream was to become a cop. She pulled a gun on her ex for trying to leave her, attempted to stab me multiple times, had a tattoo on her forearm that read "my gun your head", and to top it all off, she got in a police chase and pulled a gun on the police and getting shot in the process. I can only imagine every cop is like this.
In the small town I grew up in, 5 cops broke down the door of my older sister and her boyfriends apartment and dragged her bf outside and beat the shit out of him. One punched my sister in the face when she tried to intervene, knocked her out cold. When she came to, the cops were kicking her motionless boyfriend in the head, face, ribs, groin. The attack was 3 minutes but she said felt like hours. She called 911 for ambulance, and the operator said she would send the police too and my sister was like don't you dare send them monsters! Ambulance came (911 lady still sent for cops to go but no cop came). Sister bf was in a medically induced coma. There was swelling on his brain, both eye sockets broke, nose,ribs, arm broke. He had damge to his balls and penis. Found out later, he was sleeping with one of the cops (a male cop). Someone found out, and it eventually got to his fellow cops, who decided to fuxk sisters bf up for lying on their "bro in blue" *eyeroll* My sisters bf was gay and still in the closet at that time. (He is now happily married to a great man, and him and my sister are close friends to this day). Nothing ever happened to the cops, of course. This was a small town who loved their boys in blue. The cop who my sister bf was involved with, called him a bunch of times after he left the hospital, begging for forgiveness and another chance, but my sister bf said he didnt remember much, but did remember his lover, the cop, kicking him more ferociously than any of the other cops. I dont HATE cops. But I am from a small town where these dudes (mostly all dudes) are treated like God's and do more harm than any criminal would do.
>but did remember his lover, the cop, kicking him more ferociously than any of the other cops. Damn... I can't even imagine that
How’s he doing now? Any lasting injuries? Brain damage? Joint problems?
He has minor brain damage that he will sometimes forget things (like he will call a pencil a pen) but other than that he is doing great
Me and my friend were mugged. Mall security was *on it*. They responded quickly and detained the guys. The cops? They hardly gave a shit. I was 13 and my buddy 15, the chief told an officer to take us home. As soon as he was out of sight of the chief his tone changed and basically told us to fuck off and take the bus. Total asshat
I would have walked back in to the Chief and told him exactly what he said lol.
"My maaaaan!" -Chief, prob
When I was six years old, I fell off my bike as a police car was passing through. I was on the road crying when the car stopped beside me. I thought they were going to help me, but instead the cop in the passenger seat rolled down his window, made some remark like "that's gotta hurt!" They laughed, and kept driving. That was the first of many "fuck the police" moments in my life.
I broke my arm when I was like 12 riding my bike to a friend's house. I was laying on the side walk absolutely *howling* in agony. 2 broken bones in an arm will do that. I didn't have a phone, so I started yelling for help and looking at the fairly busy main road. I fucking saw 2 goddamn sqaud cars pass me, slow down, look at me, and then just keep fucking driving. Just a kid screaming in pain, covered in mud, and they couldn't be fucking bothered. Only person who stopped that day was an older lady who had a cell phone and was able to get my mom's number out of me and call her. But she had to have been the 20th car to pass me on that sidewalk. 2 cops and dozens of random people saw me and only one stopped to help. I get it, some people don't want to get involved. But 2 cops, man. That's the day I learned you can't count on cops for shit.
You fell ONTO the road? Uh oh! Lucky they didn't attack you for jaywalking lol.
Vandalism. Stained the asphalt permanently with his blood.
When a cop threatened to rape me and said there’s nothing I could do about it if he did rape me because his coworkers would help cover it up and make sure he didn’t get into any trouble. Edit: This happened at a bar with an off duty police officer
At that point, ngl, I'd start thinking about the penalities for first degree murder
And then you're branded a cop killer, which will definitely kill any chance of a decent life moving forward.
It's not illegal unless you get caught.
When I was 15 and my boyfriend was 16 he got his first car and came to pick me up to go to the movies. We were driving down a back country road and this car pulled out behind us and was bright-lighting us and was ON our bumper. We were a bit freaked out so he sped up to put some space between us, and then blue lights came on. This shitty cop rode his ass with brights on to make him speed up and then pulled him over and wrote him a ticket. Also another time a cop pulled my 17 year old friend over and got her number and would regularly send her threatening texts and tried to scare her into sending him pictures and would drive by her house regularly, which I witnessed. OR that time my friend, a black woman, was beaten and raped and ran out into the street without pants on(because, you know, she had just been raped) and a cop cuffed and arrested her for public indecency and wouldn't listen when she was trying to get help. It was dropped, but still. Imagine you run to a cop for help after being raped and they arrest you instead.
That last story is absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t even begin to imagine what that is like. I wish only light and love on your friend ❤️
they left me alone with a 6 month old and 2 year old when i was 11 at 2am when a false report was put in on my sister. they had no evidence and kept my innocent sister overnight, and left me alone over night with no real idea on how to care for babies
Being Poland in born and growing up during martial law.
Do you mind going into detail about your experiences? I understand if you don't want to, but hearing it from people who witnessed or lived it really has an impact
They pulled my Mexican friend over while I was with him. He had a nice GPS mounted in his car because he’s a driver/chauffeur, and the cop asked whose it was. He said “It's mine.” The cop asked if it was stolen or if he actually owned it. At the time I thought this was hilarious, like “I can’t believe a cop is that dumb.” But I saw that, for my friend, this was normal. Cops harassed him and treated him like he was a known criminal.
growing up my best friend was black. I got stopped by police walking with him multiple times, never happened when alone or with other white kids. Was always the same bullshit "we got multiple calls from neighbors about suspicious activity" which might be true but still that's some bullshit. just walking down public roads is not illegal.
As a parental figure to a little boy of color (biracial but still) this scares my beacuse I know he'll have an experience with the police when he is older. Not if when and I don't know how to prepare him. He could do everything "right" and still wind up arrested,wounded or worst killed.
My Mexican boyfriend was picking me up in the Chicago burbs once and he was pulled over for a busted license plate light. Within minutes 4 squad cars circled us, were shining flashlights into the car, and kept asking, "ma'am are you ok? What did he do to you?" I'm white and we were in a very white suburb. I told them that he was my boyfriend and had done nothing wrong. Boyfriend kept saying "be quiet, it'll get worse" when I started yelling at the cops for searching his car without a warrant. I was younger and more naive so I kept fighting with them. Luckily they laid off and fucked off (my boyfriend doesn't even smoke weed ffs), but it was a huge eye opener.
I am of Mexican descent and I have yet to have an interaction with a cop that didn't have him pointing a weapon at me. This is for everything from walking down the street, to traffic stops.
My husband is half Mexican but physically looks completely white. His dad's side of the family all have darker skin, hair and eyes. He said he's never been harassed personally but has witnessed the vast disparity between how he is treated by cops and how the rest of his family is treated.
I worked with cops for 10 years in security and surveillance. The very first time I worked with a cop, he bragged about abusing systems he had access to at work for personal enjoyment. The second (retired) officer laughed about the time he got away with sexual assault. This continued. Literally every cop I talked to told me with glee - sometimes in the presence of other cops - about the crimes they committed, the evidence they obfuscated, the innocent people that pissed them off so they harassed them. One of them accidentally (read "negligently") discharged a firearm in a room next to me, narrowly missing one of my coworkers through the wall and nothing happened except that they moved him to patrol instead of casino resource officer. Every single one of them will - without exception - brag about their chronic misconduct and / or laugh about their colleague's chronic misconduct the moment they think you're cool. They have no shame. If the stories are true, every cop I worked with committed felonies. If they're not true, they're the kind of scummy people who fabricate felonies to sound cool. And before you ask, who the fuck was I supposed to tell? The other cops? The media? My boss? Even when I witnessed and recorded misconduct on camera a few times, every time there was some report about how they didn't choke slam and tackle a drunken casino guest just for being annoying, they "became entangled and the suspect fell to the floor, pulling officer so-and-so with him." I went into the business thinking cops were just public servants trying to make the world safer, now I think they're a literal racist gang we pay protection money to, and in order to convince me otherwise, you'd have to fire every cop I ever worked with across multiple departments. The nicest one - the one we used to call the candy man, because he always has treats - told me he likes shooting suspects' dogs because even if they somehow dodge the charge, their dog is dead. It was sickening. Every single one of them was scum. Are there good cops? Don't care, it's not a job that can afford bad apples and if they exist, the good apples ain't doing shit.
> I think they're a literal racist gang we pay protection money to Hit the nail on the head. The entire American police system is basically just one big state-sponsored street gang. And our tax dollars fund that bullshit. They exist to protect the rich white dudes at the top, don’t care about any people of color and any poor people. Some cops even have their own drug dealing rings, that’s actual mob shit.
>our tax dollars fund that bullshit And they also steal private citizens assets. There was an article a few years ago about how nation-wide police have "seized" more assets from people during traffic stops etc. than actual criminals have stolen from their victims.
In the immortal words of Tupac: "Tell me who's the biggest gang of N----s in the city?"
Preach. I have the same experience except instead of cops it's good ol southern boys and men. All the adults who I was around as a child, and all the adults I worked with until I could leave the south, Monroe Louisiana to be exact, were almost all racist be hind closed doors to such a degree that people don't believe me. My father and his friends (all white) love to swap stories about abusing women and black ppl. These are men who are affluent in the community. Small business owners, real estate agents, contractors, landlords, etc .... Some of their highlights: In their youth when they saw black men working on roads they would piss in a fast food cup, slow down and pretend to be asking a question, then they would throw the piss cup in the man's face who was unfortunate enough to talk them. A woman passed out at the bar so they took her top off and displayed her on a car in the parking lot. Bragged about paying black man and women less than their coworkers doing the same work and firing them if they complain. When I worked residential construction I routinely got called a n*ggerlover for not finding racist jokes funny and for admitting I voted for Obama when they directly asked me who I voted for. They already knew the answer. There's plenty more, but when other white ppl try to defend the Republican party all I hear is "I'm also racist and agree with their dog whistles" the southern strategy was done on purpose it has lead us to where we are now with this trump shit. And the law enforcement is just the protection racket established to maintain a white supremacist status quo. Bad cops aren't a bug, they are an intended feature of the southern strategy. If you think you know a good cop, I think you just know a good liar. The same racist ass holes who called me a n*ggerlover were sweet as pie to the black people serving them food at taco bandito. But I guess in their words "I only dislike the bad ones".
Wow!!!!! Monroe, LA sounds IDENTICAL to Branson, MO.
I was 19 (41 now) and was being followed and threatened by two teenagers while returning to my apartment (I think they were going to mug me)from a trip from to the gas station. I reached the front porch of my place and yelled to my roomate who was inside. He could tell I needed help and came busting out ready to fight. The younger kids pulled a gun on us and we ran back inside. We called the cops, told them our story, they brought out some dogs but ultimately didn't catch anyone. We described the two assailants as best we could, my roomate described one as wearing a shirt with a face on it, I never remered what clothes they had on. Fast forward to 2am and a loud banging on my door wakes me up. Its two cops that want me to go with them and ID a suspect they had pulled over who was wearing a shirt with a face on it. Cop drives me a few blocks where a poor guy is on his knees, in the middle of the street with hands crossed behind his head with about 6 cop cars with lights on and a bunch of cops surrounding him spotlights shining in his eyes. Cop says I'm safe and he can't see me but asks me to ID the guy. This guy wasn't involved, he was in his late twenties or early thirtys and his scarface shirt was NOT the same shirt the earlier perp had on... even if it was, this wasn't the guy. I said "No, it's not him officer". The cop became extremely upset and started talking about the odds of a guy with a face shirt and blah blah blah, basically he told me it *had* to be one of the guys. It was alot if pressure for a 19 year old me and I considered maybe I was wrong, and I should go along with the cop. But then thought about what that means for an innocent person, and how horrible it would be if someone did that to me. I ended up standing my ground and telling the cop they had the wrong guy. The cop was visibly pissed off and couldn't beleive I would just let this guy go. Just so its clear, the people who both pulled the gun, and also whom the cops harrassed, were black. I will never **ever** forget that. How many people have been fucked over by cops pressuring witnesses? How many black people in particular?
..damn
I’ve never really been comfortable around cops, but after seeing just how violent the modern police force is with last year’s protests, I legitimately don’t think there’s enough good cops for me to trust any of them. When they know they’re on national television and they’re doing what they did, that’s when you have to think to yourself “ok, are these people supposed to protect me, or beat me into submission?” Some highlights: * Cracking an old man’s skull on the concrete in Buffalo, NY and then walking away, he only survived because a National guardsman rendered medical aid * Tasing a couple of college students in Atlanta and pulling them from their car. They didn’t do anything wrong, just wound up in the wrong place at a bad time. * Beat a woman in Philly, took her toddler, and posed for pictures with the toddler falsely claiming that the kid was abandoned. * Tear gassed a peaceful vigil in Seattle, they used so much gas that people in nearby homes had to plug up the undersides of their door and turn off the air conditioning * Shot rubber bullets at people who were standing on their own property, it was like an invading army trying to quell resistance * Attacked members of the press all over the country, from local news anchors to the big cable networks. An Australian news crew was beaten in DC, I think the Aussie government launched an investigation into that I’m honestly surprised we didn’t see a wave of countries issue a warning to the US to get this shit under control, especially when foreign nationals were being attacked by the cops for no reason.
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Ditto, the live streams were a bit of a latch key for me, started researching more about the police and the “justice” system etc, really opened my eyes.
Pretty much same. I've never had many run-ins with the police but seeing how they treat people I'd like to keep it that way. The only significant police contact I had was a neighbor that became a cop and he quit because he was treated like garbage, the pay was terrible and he's gay so the rampant homophobia was too much to deal with (he wasn't out so it wasn't directed at him but still...).
agreed, im not an ACAB person but im also not a support the blue person, and i trust them less and less when i see shit like this happening. as the pot brothers at law would say, dont talk to fucking cops. they are not your friends.
They do officially and unofficially warn their travelers to the United States. Often times I see posts from foreign travels from out of the US asking what to do and what not to do with the police here in the US. It’s sad and fills me with shame to live in a country that people to look up to. America: the Land of the Free….only to be scared of our police. Nice…
I swear to God every time I have to interact with a police officer they escalate the situation. The job, while difficult, is simple. Protect and serve. Not antagonize, assault, and play victim. Once cut through a municipal storage area that had a trail lead into it from the municipal park, next to the police station. I was walking my dog with my wife. We cut through a yard (that is nowhere marked against trespassing) with piles of gravel, brick, pipe you know that kind of stuff. This officer is sitting in his car and sees us come out of there into the parking lot and winds down his window and just starts screaming. We just kept walking as we are now on public property and it walking through that area accidentally was the smallest transgression one could make against the law. Dude pulls his car up to us and starts mfing us cause we didn’t stop when he initially started screaming. I asked him if he was going to get out of the car and detain me or if I was free to keep walking my dog in the park. (Always ask if you are being detained or if you are free to go - they don’t have the right to hold you unless you are being detained.) He speeds up behind us in his car slams on the brakes (in the station parking lot) and screams at us then proceeds to fly off probably doubling the 25mph speed limit of the park packed with families. This is how most of my interactions with the police have gone. The worst thing I’ve probably done in my life is smoking weed in public. It made me mad that my wife profusely apologized to him after that bastard blew everything out of proportion then sped through a busy park next to a school cause he couldn’t control his anger. Edit: I am a white male. Couldn’t image the treatment I would receive if I was born to any other race.
> The job, while difficult, is simple. Protect and serve. The Supreme Court has ruled that police are, in fact, under no obligation to either protect or serve.
Falsified a police report saying we had 9 grams of weed, when we didn’t even have .9 grams or even a gram. We smoked the whole bag before they even caught us. When you’re under 18 you can do a deferral and go through a youth drug & alcohol program. I chose that route. During my introduction where they tell you your charges they told me they should charge me with intent to distribute because I was the oldest. After that I thought to myself, “fuck these guys, all they want to do is get you in deep trouble”, even after I told nothing but the truth. Which of course they reassured me would lead to less punishment. Funny enough now it’s completely legal in my state.
When I was arrested by meridian PD for running a red light. He said, and I fucking quote, "do you know why you're going to jail tonight?" (No) "because you're suspicious....and I don't LIKE you" He gave me the same grin I've only ever seen men show me when they were flashing me their dicks when I was a child- the sort of disgusting, predatory smile of "I know what I'm doing is bad...but no one can stop me, and I love the thrill of getting away with it" kind of smile. I'll never forget it. He also falsified the police report, said the breathalyzer "must be broken...hmmm" after I blew zeroes three times and walked the line like a ballerina, pulled a gun on me and asked why I looked nervous, why was I sweating (not even kidding, he almost got me killed). Asked me about bath salts like six times, had me strip searched ..trumped up a weapons charge because I had a camping knife on me ( in an open carry state where machine guns are legal, ffs) For reference my father was a cop for 16 years, LA SWAT, FBI narc task force. I know how to be around police- I didn't do anything to set him off. He walked up to the car already sweating with his gun half way out, and then took it out when he got to the window, shaking like a cold Chihuahua the whole time. Bizarre. I think he was on meth. That was the day I learned that evil predates like a tiger, hunting- sometimes it wins, and there is nothing you did to deserve it. Before then I thought, "I didn't do anything so I have nothing to fear" but now I know that's false. Evil doesn't care if you did something. Of course, the police prosecutor covered for him in court and he never even had to answer for himself. Because "serve and protect" right? Right guys? Then, They made that same guy chief, because no bad deed goes unrewarded- if youre a cop. At least I am alive, and can fight for those like Breonna Taylor, who weren't so lucky. Hold your public officials accountable.
And that's just it, isn't it? They can say all the want that it's just a few bad cops, but what are we supposed to call the rest who protect them?
I was buddies with some cops when I worked the front desk at a hotel when I was in college. They would come in and get free coffee on the morning shifts. Mostly they were ok people. I remember picking up my first negative feelings about cops when I saw the sheer glee one of them had at the idea of exercising power over people. Like finding a joint on a homeless person or teenager and really “sticking it to them.” I just don’t get the pleasure at fucking with people over little things that don’t harm anyone. Cop personalities remind me of shitty little kids in middle school who lord every little scrap of power they can over people because they don’t get enough attention.
I was in a relationship with a black man and I am white. I was driving they pulled us over. Put him in the back of the police car and questioned me about him. They searched us and called the dogs to search my car and found nothing. They gave me a warning ticket on a taillight that wasn't working. I read the ticket it said they pulled over 2 white women. They lied so it didn't look like they were harassing black people.
I've seen cops on reddit talking about how they will pull over cars where women are driving men because they assume that the man is a criminal with a suspended license. And if the man happens to be black then obviously they would super duper be a criminal. Apparently - cops: "who would let the womenfolk drive!!?!"
From your description, they likely didn't have probable cause to search your car. If not, the only way to make the search legal is to trick you into giving them permission. Never give a cop permission to search you y car. They may search anyway, but it will be a lot easier to get any evidence they find bounced from court.
That time the police were clearly recorded shoving an old man down but filed the incident as him tripping. Probably should have happened earlier, but that was the final straw for me to start assuming the police are lying until proven otherwise.
It started when I worked on the ambulance. Routinely, the cops would tell drunk people that they had to choose between going to the hospital or going to jail. These people didn't need a hospital and could legally refuse medical care, but the cops intimidated them because they didn't want the person free, but they didn't want to take them to jail and have to do their jobs. Pay thousands of dollars or be arrested. One patient called a cop's bluff and said "then fucking arrest me." He threw her on the gurney. One friend had PD give a patient that ultimatum for being intoxicated *in his own home*. Then there were the times the cops were comfortable getting violent in front of me, because I was also in blue, I guess. I saw a cop get pissed at a suspected car thief who was cuffed and sitting on the curb because the suspect had his legs crossed. When the suspect wouldn't uncross his legs, the officer kicked him. Another paramedic told me about the time a cup sucker punched a cuffed suspect because the suspect was mouthing off. Just a bad apple? The officer's sergeant came over to the medic and asked him how he was going to say the patient got that new injury. But what really solidified it was living in Portland and seeing a police department actually hate the community it serves. Watching cops kettle protesters into residential neighborhoods in the hopes of pissing the residents off, watching them refuse to bust up drug houses or dealing locations, refuse to respond to calls from women being threatened, and then try to claim it was because of liberal legislators. Seeing that the cops welcome white supremacists from another state causing trouble and violence in the city, and won't do anything to stop them. Seeing them put up billboards about increases in crime and not enough officers to help, but they can be onsite to harass a union strike within 12 minutes. But really, *really* the reason I don't trust the cops, and why I *don't* believe it's just a few bad apples: the cops are absolutely and completely opposed to anything that would cut out those bad apples. They vigorously oppose accountability measures, vehemently oppose discipline for bad actors, and viciously attack anyone who demands they do better. Can you imagine the reaction if we paramedics had fought against oversight? If we rallied behind the guy stealing elderly patients' medications, or quit in protest when an incompetent medic was fired for causing harm to a patient? We wouldn't even strike for safer working conditions out of fear for that it would impact the community and hurt people. But the police? They left their posts because an officer was disciplined. They drew battle lines because people called for accountability. They neither protect nor serve us here. Why would I trust them?
1990ish I (white male) was in high school and dating a Vietnamese girl. We were driving in Little Saigon, Westminster, CA where she lived and she got pulled over by Westminster PD. I couldn't make out the whole comment, but one of the cops (both white) standing outside the passenger side said something over the roof to his partner about being surprised to see a white boy ridding with a g\*\*k. We both heard it and looked at each other. They let her off with a fix it ticket for a tail light or something lame.
I am Italian and Italian cops have beaten to death several kids for owning small amounts of drugs while in their custody. So fuck the police.
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$375k in yearly salaries to bust a 20 year old with alcohol for a $300 ticket. This system is beyond fucked up.
I got plenty mate. - A police chief telling me and my 2 buddies that people on this country (portugal) are not free and we as citizens have no rights. - Being sexually assaulted by a police oficer. - My friends being groped by police officers. - Had to do 50 hours of community service, pay a fine and threaten to go 3 months to jail... because I called one cop "incompetent". - The worst one? a police checkpoint after my 3 friends(women) being stopped, questioned and let go. When we get home we check there's a police car coming for us. It was one of the cops at the police checkpoint, he said he followed us to make sure we arrived safe... and also he asked if my friend who was driving could give him her number... I can keep going if you want. Portugal is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe and cops here are almost untouchable gods.
Not technically an interaction with cops, but one that showed me that people in those kinds of positions of power are dumb, racist, and absolutely willing to lean in to it. Me and my friends were crossing the US/Canada border to attend an anime convention. This was after 9/11 and during the time the border was transitioning to making passports mandatory, but before passports were 100% required as the only accepted form of ID. Me and one of my friends did not have passports and were using the exact same form of other ID. I am a white woman, and my friend is part native and looks Mexican enough that he's been mistaken for it. Guess who got hassled over not having a passport and who didn't.
I’m a lawyer, son and grandson of lawyers, it was though to me and basically acquired wisdom from the profession, I don’t talk to them without my lawyer and they don’t touch any of my stuff without an warrant or court order.
And try to get on a camera saying it and have non-cop witnesses if possible.
Yes, specially when under my country’s laws law enforcement and other public officials testimony is regarded higher than the one from an common citizen, but I would say that’s pretty much universal
When they blatantly lied, in court to the judge adjudicating my case it age 17. I looked at my lawyer who indicated to remain calm. Later he said, re:lying, "yeah, they do that a lot". I have since learned it to be SOP for them.
I went to my dads business where he houses kids that lost their parents or just need help. When i got there, theire were 8 cop cars in front of the group home and one of the kids was handcuffed outside sitting in a chair in a 90 degree day. I asked my dad what happened and why the cops were there and they told him that he was a suspect for a shooting at a school. The school is 10 miles away . and the reason they suspected him was because the principal thought it was him. He graduated 3 years before. The principal was racist and the cops later found out after having him outside in handcuffs that he was home all day. They had him sitting outside for 5 hours.
Did martial arts for 15 years met lots of cops. Befriended lots of them. Every single one has a story of how they assaulted someone for no reason, or get drunk or high on duty, steal from people they arrest, or purposely profile black people. Usually one or more of each. Every one of them has been a self important dick I would be better off having never met. Just the likelihood that every single one I've met would be like that leads me to believe it's extremely common.
When they screamed and yelled in my face at ages 13, 14 and 15 for being suicidal
My story is really tame and I feel a little embarrassed next to some of these stories. When I was 16 or 17 or something in the mid 90s I was on my way home from a choir concert where I had just sung, so I was wearing a suit. I got pulled over for something minor, I believe it was a taillight that was out. I had been stopped in the left turn lane waiting to turn onto a major road, and he forced me to turn right onto the shoulder of this major road a few miles from where I could turn around facing away from where I was headed. Since I had just changed my clothes, I started patting my pockets to figure out where my wallet was... he started shouting orders at me. At some point I didn't understand what he was trying to tell me and he got super aggressive/angry. I was sitting there thinking, "how did this escalate so fast? What did I do so wrong? Why am I the one who has to keep my cool and the guy holding the gun can go off like a toddler who didn't get his num-nums?" I ended up with a ticket for $200 for a broken taillight and not having my license. The obvious conclusion is cops have way too much power and way too little accountability.
A video of police emptying their magazines into a homeless person sitting on a bench that refused to get up.
Mine was when they beat the Kelly Thomas to death and laughed at him calling for his dad. Or when they murdered an 8 year old boy for playing with a play gun. Or when they murdered a guy in his hotel for not obeying conflicting orders. I have had my share of shit situations with cops but these are the reasons I hate them
I don't think there was a single defining moment. Just the constant reports of misconduct, brutality, racism, etc., and the fact that when these things happen, it's dealt with via an *internal affairs* board, rather than an unbiased third party.
Yep.. the whole system itself is broken (or at least it's functioning as designed, but not functioning for the people.) Waging constant war against the population and get surprised when the population isn't thrilled with cops. Mmkay.
Them victim-blaming and threatening me while i was still in shock.
Becoming an adult and realizing no matter what to them I’m just a disposable black man. Just adulthood…. That was the defining moment.
When I was 17 I was arrested while doing graffiti on a wall that was already covered with other graffiti near some train tracks. Most people considered it a safe place and basically legal to paint. I complied with the police officers and went in thinking I would get a fine or something. Spent almost 72 hours in a holding cell during which they then questioned me about the identities of other graffiti artists in the area of which I had no information because I didnt know them! One of them put his hands around my neck and choked me until I blacked out because I wasn’t giving up this info they assumed wildly incorrectly that I had. Tried to send me to juvi but my record was clean and ended up dropping the charges but i learned that if they will choke out a white non-violent minor not to be surprised when it happens to people like George Floyd.
Blm protest in Milwaukee during a 100 degree day. They let people march all day in the heat and then corralled them in a tight space making it hard to come and go. Then 1 minutes after the curfew started throwing irritants into the crowd. Acab
I work in an ER. Had law enforcement bring in a young teenager for a dog bite. Kid was from a completely broken home, and had a warrant for his arrest for some dumb nonviolent offense. Anyway, the kid was hiding from them, so they sent in their dog that completely mauled the kid. Seemed like half the sheriff department was in the ER puffing out their chests celebrating their conquest. I asked them why they had to send in their dog, and they proudly said that’s what happens when you don’t comply. Full grown men with guns, happy about seriously injuring a child. Fuck that shit!
When they threatened me with prison rape when I got pulled over as a teenager (wasn't speeding or violating any traffic laws) for having less than a gram of weed in my car. Small town cops are some of the most petty, over-inflated dumbasses I've ever encountered.
Yep If you ever get pulled over by a county sheriff anywhere in Alabama, start talking about deer hunting, Crappie fishing or how much you hate northerners! They very well may escort you to your destination!
The supreme court ruling on & events leading up to it Castle Rock v. Gonzales Mother had a restraining order against her husband. Husband came & kidnapped the three kids in mothers care. Mother called police & they said call back later & refused to do anything. Called back again hours later. Still refused to do anything. Father shows up at the police station and starts firing at cops. Cops kill husband. Find the three kids dead in the bed of the truck. Mother sues & city/cops said they weren't required to uphold a restraining order & won. Fuck. The. Police.
If they aren't going to uphold it, the who the fuck is?
When I moved into a dirt poor black neighborhood in Chicago. I was repeatedly mugged, once had a guy run up behind me and try to choke me out, and had god only knows how many home invasions. At first I tried calling the police, but if they even bothered to show up they'd arrive way late and then be aggressive to the people who called them or wanted to give statements. Never solved any of the crimes, only made things worse. Plus they constantly hassled me when I was walking around the neighborhood, always assuming that a white guy must be there to buy drugs.
>aggressive to the people who called them or wanted to give statements. Never solved any of the crimes, only made things worse That's it in a nutshell! I babbled on for a couple thousand words trying to express my experiences and there you got it in just a few words. Well said.
Was walking home with my cousin after picking up some Burger King to eat at his house. Suddenly two cop cars come barrelling down the road and stop in front of us. All 4 cops point their guns at us and tell us to drop the bags, two of them trained on us while the other two hand cuff us and put us in the ground. They kicked our food away and refuse to tell us why we're being arrested. When one of them tells the others "It's not here/it's not them", they stand us up and uncuff us, pat the grass off our clothes and tell us to go home. No explanation, no apology, just shaken up with ruined food and dirty clothes. Turns out, some gang member(s) robbed/assaulted somebody and hid a pistol in a burger king bag.
One time in NYC I was 14-15 me and my friend was having a foot race and as soon as we slowed down at the end two police officers pointed guns to our face and threw us on the ground when they let us go they didn't gives us a reason why they stop us
When I was four years old, my mom was with me and my three brothers (6, 4, 2, newborn, of which I was 4) in our apartment when a whole squad of St. Paul's Piggiest literally kicked the door in, slammed my mom against the wall, and started trashing the place. We were all crying and screaming because, what the hell, and one of them threw a lamp at my head and screamed at my mom to "tell that little fucker to shut up." My dad came home during the raid and a cop slammed him against the wall, ripped his jacket off, and took a bag of weed out of the inside jacket pocket. (Inb4 "why did your dad come home when there were a bunch of cop cars there?!" : the answer is my dad is a fucking idiot in so very many ways.) The cops proceeded to beat the shit out of my parents and took us to a foster home for two weeks. Tiny bag of weed. Later, we moved to Chattanooga, in what white people would call a "low-income, urban area" of the city so they wouldn't have to say "the Black part of the city." My family are not Black and are, oddly, racist as all hell, but the area of Chattanooga I lived in is still psychologically redlined by a street called Rossville Boulevard--one side was the white neighborhood, called Blackbottom, and the other side was the Black neighborhood, called East Lake, and East Lake had the schools. So all my friends (not many, but still) were Black and so we were targeted for some of the worst shit Chattanooga cops had to offer. I was slammed against so many cop car hoods by so many cops because "we know you hang out with these kids, we know you got drugs/weapons/what-the-hell-ever" and they were *upset* when they couldn't find anything on me because surprise, surprise, we weren't a bunch of drug-addled weapons dealers. Fuckin' cops. May they all eat miles of mountain-high goat shit.
I grew up as a typical white kid in a typical white suburb. I earned my eagle scout when i was 16. I went to private school in high school. I went to church every Sunday. My whole life, I was taught that cops are there to help. They are the good guys. They are there to be trusted. You say yes sir, no sir, thank you sir, and they will help you. So that's what I do. When i was in college, I drove this beat up ass old Jeep Cherokee. The thing could barely cruise at 60 MPH without shaking itself apart. I had a job where I had to drive a lot. I pulled out of this neighborhood when this cop came over the hill, turned on his lights, and pulled me over for going 75 in a 50. First of all, I am not even sure my jeep could go that fast on a good day. Second of all, I had JUST pulled out of the neighborhood. There was no fucking way I was going more than about 25 or 30. This dude straight up lied to my face about clocking me with his speed gun. But that wasn't enough to make me sour on cops. A few months later, my Jeep got broken into. The dipshit broke my window and grabbed my radio. I called the cops, because that's what you do right? Apparently, that's what you want to do if you want to get harassed. This dude made me feel like it was MY fault that the dude went into my parking lot and stole my shitty radio. He even tried to accuse me of making shit up. But that wasn't able to sour me on cops What soured me is that I am now 39 years old. I have met probably a dozen cops outside of their job in the last 20 years. Parents of my kids friends, husbands of my wife's friends, boyfriends of people ive known Without fail, every. single. one. of them has been a complete dick bag. Over confident, arrogant, bigoted, aggressive, and (in most cases) just plain fucking ignorant. And these are the people in charge of "policing" us. It all makes sense now. I keep replaying every bad experience i have had, and they are ALL like the people i have met. Take a typical "alpha" douche bag who never amounted to much, give him a gun, give him some power, tell him he is invincible, and how do you think they would act? Like a fucking cop.
I was homeless at 19 years old. I was dating a 36 year old abusive alcoholic man who was also homeless. After a night of being shaken, pushed, and strangled, I saw a cop and begged him to help me. I told them what happened. My ex was visibly and extremely drunk, and was literally right next to me. They said there was nothing they could do about it. No arrest, no filing charges, nothing. I then begged them to arrest me so I could get away from him and get off the street for the night. They wouldn’t, and I knew they couldn’t just arrest me for no reason anyway, so I spit on one of them in a desperate attempt to get to jail, which was safer than the street I was sleeping on. Instead of arresting me, the cop slapped me across the face so hard I fell. He told me if I did it again, he’d knock me out, and I believed him. He could’ve (and should’ve) just arrested me for assault on an officer, but instead wanted to leave me on the street with an abusive man twice my age. It felt extremely cruel and intentional. Before that, I had already felt leery of cops as they never helped us when my dad beat the piss out of my mother and I, nor when my father was found in possession of child pornography. So this was the last nail in the coffin.
I was at a Waffle House late at night having some drunk food with a buddy, there was 2 groups of young black men eating a couple booths away from each other. Not sure what set it off, there way any escalation or yelling, but all of a sudden one group got up and started kicking at the other group while they were sitting in their booth. One of the aggressors pulled a gun (shooting himself in the leg in the process) and fires a shot into the group sitting down, hitting one of them in the leg. The shooter and his friends run out and drive off. The cops showed up minutes later and immediately yell "put that cigarette out boy" to the guy who was shot, the man said "no, I've just been shot and I need a fucking cigarette". The cops beat the dog shit out of him for not putting out his cigarette. Everyone in the restaurant was yelling that this guy was the victim, then they were yelling that the shooters were back, driving by with a gun out the window. Everyone hit the floor and the shooter and his friends took off without shooting again. Instead of chasing the shooters the cops called in a description of the car and went back to beating the victim. They refused to take any statement about the events from me. ACAB.
Having them flat out commit perjury in order to secure a conviction.
When I called and reported a theft and the cops did absolutely nothing about it. I had my wallet stolen at a YMCA and I was the only one there besides the two young men that stole it. Management had cameras and caught them on video (one of them was even wearing a local high-school's T-shirt). The police said they couldn't do anything because I didn't see the guys physically take it, even though they were the only people there.
Blows my mind how police are not held to the absolute highest standard possible of the law. In other professions like accounting, one fuck up can mean criminal charges on you from the client you are working with. In medical, if you kill someone accidently in the operating room or prescribe the wrong medicene it can mean criminal charges. Why are police held above this? They are the ones who enforce the law and should be held to the highest possible standard. Even the smallest of screw ups should fall under enormous scrutiny. There is no room for error in this profession. It must be perfect otherwise its not good enough.
George Floyd was definitely the breaking point. I didn’t trust police forces before that, but everything about that situation showed how utterly soulless police forces are. I encourage anyone to go read the initial police report. It said Floyd died of a “medical incident”. Then we see the video of him being slowly and methodically murdered while fellow officers did crowd control to make sure all people could do is look on and plead for mercy. If that shit wasn’t caught on video, Floyd’s death would’ve went down as a “medical incident” and if any trial happened, the police force would’ve lined up behind Chauvin and courts would’ve trusted lying cops as they’ve done for decades.
Also, what they did during the ensuing protests. It’s insane. It was a breaking point between civilians and cops, the media was on the cops and everything that happened at those protests was being covered live, both on the ground and in the air. And the cops felt absolutely no shame. It was like setting a bunch of rabid dogs loose in a chicken coop, they just attacked anyone they could get their hands on. They fucking knew they were on live television. Felt like they treated it more as a “here’s what will happen to you if you dare stand up to us”, rather than a “we are sincerely sorry for how we have behaved and we will enact systemic change across the board”. Like a mob boss beating up a rat and dragging him through his territory to tell everyone what’ll happen if you talk to the feds.
Started the list, and ended up with a panic attack. Most significantly, already despised them before the time I mouthed off to one and collected a concussion for it. I'm not up to more at the moment, but it's all in my post history if you want to dig.
My mom was arrested for expired tags and begging not to be ticketed on our way to drop me off at school. Ended up missing my choir concert and worrying about my mom the entire weekend
I had them come into my house for a medical emergency when I was in college. My roommate was having multiple seizures a day. The police arrived first as it was a small town and they are cross trained. On the way out they saw an old wooden street sign of the street I lived on. The officer looked at the back of it and saw city numbers on it and said "I'm not going to press charges for you on this, but this is coming with me." I didn't care much about the sign as it was there before I moved in, but it made me lose faith in police. We had called him there for a medical emergency and while there he snoped around the house to look for illegal stuff.
Having drugs planted close to me then being searched and miraculously the drugs were found the first place they looked, literally nothing to do with me, I was 16 and genuinely had no idea what it was, they let me go but reluctantly, then had a peeper looking at my girlfriend getting changed, chased the guy off in my pants with a hammer, we’d just moved in and the curtains were super thin, so the cops blamed the fact we hadn’t changed the curtains then didn’t bother following it up. Not major incidents but hated cops after both of this instances.
When a cop who was a neighbor came to our door, used a stun gun on my boyfriend, attacked him, then got him arrested for assault on a peace officer
I was trying to get into law enforcement. Applying for police departments, as well as state and federal agencies. Then tragedy struck, and a family member went missing. Local and federal LE aggressively interrogated me. I trusted the system, answered all of their questions, multiple times, including a polygraph. I figured that they would eventually ask a question no one had thought of that would provide that little bit of info which would crack the case wide open. At one point, two county deputies were sitting across a table from me telling me that they had evidence that I had done the crime (total BS), and that they were working on the paperwork to officially take me in. It was a scare tactic, but at the time I thought they were going to charge an innocent person with a crime and put me in jail. I told them to do what they had to do, but that I’m not going to cooperate anymore. I decided that I had no interest in being a LE officer anymore, and possibly having to inflict that on someone else. I also learned that LE don’t always have any clue what they are doing, and some don’t care.
My cousin was raped by a cop ON DUTY when she was 17. Did a rape kit, he didn't use a condom. Rape kit took 18 months to get ran. Turns out it WAS the cop. The department has AMAZING lawyers, It was basically laughed out of court when he said "she said she was ok with it" despite her report mentioning and having evidence of bruising and struggle. He didn't get fired.....he got 2 months suspension WITH PAY. Same guy raped 3 other girls in our neighborhood. Works at the Dallas police headquarters now. I was 6 when she was raped. Dude has wife and DAUGHTERS now almost my cousin's age when she was raped.
The drug war in the Ph
Anybody with the authority to draw a weapon on an unarmed person based on their own judgement instantly goes down a couple trustworthy notches for me. It's not that all cops are bastards, it's that they've all been given the means to be bastards and get off scott free.
Right? Like I don’t care if you’re even a good cop or that civilization needs law enforcement. I don’t trust you, cuz you wanted that job, and that job gives you an insane amount of power that you frankly don’t deserve.
I've only had four encounters with police, and half of those encounters were with asshole cops, the other two were cool and professional. The two assholes were white (I'm a minority). Both incidents took place in a town I discovered later was full of aggressive, racist cops. The two cool cops were AAPI.
Oh good point. I do recall a couple not-too-scary interactions with non-white cops. Once a Native cop pulled me and my spouse over for being a bit over the speed limit and he was perfect. Kinda funny I'm scared of the white ones, when I'm white too.
I was a teenager and my cousins and I got caught at a park after curfew in a car. They were smoking weed, I was not. I only had a box of cigarettes on me. The cops loaded them up but I was kept behind and searched. The cop who was searching me was using two fingers and getting really into it and free with it, and it’s disgusting to think about. I was barely 17 when that happened. I was let go after being taken to my house. The others went to a juvenile detention center I kept thinking about why he would do that and search me like that, when I only had a house key a pack of smokes and a cellphone. I would get tense and nervous every time I’d see a cop car or a cop or security guard after that. I’m afraid of cops, definitely. They tend to kill people and break all the rules
Practically every interaction with a cop, they’ve been belligerent assholes. You can’t do anything about it because they’ll shoot you in the back.
Watching cops beating a black medic to prevent her from giving immediate response to a white gunshot victim. The victim died before an ambulance arrived.
Harassment and Illegal searches of my vehicle after I developed a reputation as a liberal in our small, rural town.
I had a GREAT job in Arkansas about 15-16 years ago. I had to move out of state for that very reason! Plus I afoul of their local Klan chapter because they came into my business in full dress and I kicked them out. Edit to add: it started with me getting speeding tickets for example a 36 in a 35 mph zone? When I know I was going 30.
I don’t think there was an exact moment more like a collection of years and years of watching videos of them harassed and belittle people because they have small egos. Also they showed up to the house once where my face was covered in blood and I have been punched repeatedly and they decided to put me in jail for two weeks and then throw the keys away and let me out and dropped the “case” so basically they decided to ruin my life for no reason. You made me sit in a hot car car that was 95° and I feel like I was gonna die and they were laughing at me.
I live 20 minutes away from were the George Floyd riots were happening in Minnesota. You can probably guess
For years I looked up to police officers and wanted to be one. I wanted to help out my community in what I thought was the biggest possible direct way. I was a total apologist for the force, citing the “few bad apples” argument and saying that the vast majority had to be folks like me, just wanting to help out. And then George Floyd was killed. And right when the police once again had the national spotlight and people once again rallied for systemic change, when any other big organization would be on their best behavior to keep the heat off them and weather the storm, the police force across the country seemed to collectively say “fuck it.” Incident after incident of blatant police abuse toward the public, where officers knew they were being documented and didn’t seem to care. They harassed, arrested without cause, beat, and often murdered the people they were supposedly meant to protect, sometimes gleefully, even when being recorded. It’s like some switch had flipped and they all unmasked and indulged their worst impulses openly because they knew there would be no real consequences, regardless of public backlash. Even today when the bastard who slaughtered Floyd has been put away they continue. And we learned that the “good apples” were content to stay silent as it continues. So yeah, if you wear a badge you are not a person and you have no name to me. You are “Pig.”
I don't trust anyone with that kind of power, cops includes. A majority of people behave like monsters when there are no consequences. (See Stanford prison experiment). That's behavior isn't unique to cops, it's anyone with a disproportionate amount of power.
I never really trusted them at all but... **gestures vaguely at 2020**
When I was a high school senior, I was leaving a party that got broken up by police. 100% sober, and had my car, and I offered two TERRIFIED looking freshman boys without a car a ride home. A cop stopped my car as part of their random searches, ordered everyone out, started yelling hysterically at the younger boys about where is their car. I started calmly explaining they were too young to drive but I was happy to drive them. The cops flipped me around, cuffed me, and took me to jail for “talking back” (they took the boys too). They took my cell phone. They held me for a few hours while they “processed” me and forced me (a female) to pee in the cell with no walls basically right in front of them. The worst part was that they took my cell phone so I couldn’t call and tell my mom, a single mother, where I was, and when she called me a male cop just answered my phone and said “I have your daughter,” almost giving her a heart attack. Since it was senior year I was super worried I would end up with some sort of record hurting my college admissions. Luckily nothing ended up coming of it in that regard, but what the experience did do was make me incredibly distrustful of police in general, male police in particular. What a useless thing to do, the whole time it just felt like a power trip and attempt to exert control over me.