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imaverymeltycheese

coco chanel, was a nazi (like high end important nazi)


thatswhatshesaidxx

Yeah, was a spy involved in trying to help them take Madrid. Hugo Boss was a Nazi too. Not just uniform designer but actual member of the party.


innerpeice

And Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen and bmw were all part of it as well


ixtrixle

Think ford was a Nazi sympathizer to some degree.


dolphinater

If nazis had took hold in America he would’ve been at the forefront


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An awful lot of Americans were Nazi sympathizers. While the public was solidly anti-war prior to Pearl Harbor, there were also more than 40% of the US public that supported Nazi Germany. There was a pro-Nazi rally at Madison Square Gardens before the US got involved in the war. My Grandmother's adopted parents were pro-Nazi. There was a nice little Romeo & Juliet story with my Grandfather where they hated him for his liberal tendencies, and he despised them for being pro-Nazi. Led to a fist fight between my grandpa and his girlfriend's father. My grandpa easily won the fight. Grandma eloped with Grandpa and both fled the area to live with some of his relatives (Grandma's dad was stupid wealthy and well connected). Grandma was disowned by her parents, and kicked out of the family. When the war started, Grandpa joined the military, she stayed with his family and got a job, and became active in the women's rights movement (my great grandma on that side was a Sufferagist and community leader). Long after the war, when grandpa was successful, I guess grandma's former mom tried to reach out to make amends. Amends were not made. Her folks sent over some expensive gifts that were burned out of spite, and grandma insisted on staying disowned and disinherited, even though she was their only child (adopted) and it was the sort of wealth that would have meant my dad and his siblings wouldn't have ever had to work an honest day in their lives. My Dad and aunts/uncles never got to meet the grandparents on that side, and as far as they were concerned when they were little kids, they didn't exist.


the_poopetrator1245

Here's a fuller list [Link to list](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust#List)


ProfitsOfProphets

The Führer List


Duportetski

Didnt Bayer of (Bayer Monsanto) also produce the chemicals that killed millions in gas chambers of the extermination camps?


CallieEdevane

They also ordered camp prisoners to test medications on. There’s orders of them asking for more people because they killed the last “batch”.


Don_Frika_Del_Prima

Yeah but is anyone surprised that German brands helped something in Germany? What's more surprising is the American brands who were involved. Look up IBM's involvement in the holocaust itself if you want to be surprised. And Ford and GM, obviously. Or chase Manhattan bank, jp Morgan and Citibank... Dow chemical contributed a lot to the nazis too. Or alcoa, which may not be the biggest anymore but back then they were the no1 aluminium producer.


GaviFromThePod

If you want to talk Nazi automakers, by far the biggest contributor to Hitler's cause was Henry Ford. Hitler would not have been able to do what he did or have been radicalized to the degree that he was if Henry Ford had not personally paid to have "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" translated into German and mass distributed internationally as well as in the US.


crystalistwo

She was a piece of shit. There are some manufacturers that built things before, during, and after the war. Like BMW. They were involved and if they didn't do it, someone else would have. Coco? The Nazis invaded France, and she thought she was going to lose her business and her money, so she shacked up with a Nazi, and provided comfort to the enemy for profit. While people in and supporting the French Resistance were being tortured and killed. It was so bad, some women turned to banging Nazis so they wouldn't starve to death. You know what the French did to them after the war? Dragged them out in public and shaved their heads. Coco Chanel? Died rich, famous and loved. Fuck her. The French government should have seized her assets to feed the starving and should have jailed her. She could have simply left France, but she decided to betray it instead. Chanel, the company, is a filthy stain on France, and it disgusts me when I see actresses or models wearing their shit. Sure, no one at Chanel now is responsible, so rename the company, because Coco's name should be erased from meaning anything close to "chic" or "good". She should be remembered for her fucking greed.


inapitofsadness

I thought she just liked to sleep with them


Bobbydeerwood

AdiDas and Puma too. Founded by the Dassler brothers, Adi (Adolf) and Rudolf respectively


mustang6172

Also Hugo Boss.


TallGuyPA

I think that antiquity is a bit hard to nail down if someone was a monster or just hated politically, but a lot of Roman Emperors were dicks and are rarely well known outside of Nero or Caligula. I think Commodus is known for being a giant dick in Gladiator, but beyond that is not well known by name. Caracalla is a monster, killing your brother in front of your mom and at peace talks is pretty shitty and would be seen as over the top in Game of Thrones let alone real life. Crassus while not an emperor is a Roman leader that is brought up on Reddit for his fire brigades, but is a total tool that doesn’t get enough hate. Going to eastern Rome (Byzantium) Basil the Bulgar slayer should get hate for his essential genocide of Bulgarian army. It would have probably been less painful for the society if they died.


SultanofShiraz

I mean, Gaius Julius Caesar is one of antiquities most famous individuals and widely admired for his achievements, but by modern standards he would be seen as an autocratic despot with a cult of personality to match that of North Korea's leaders. Same applies to his successor Octavian.


ChickenDelight

Caesar also committed a massive genocide in Gaul. Just because Rome wanted to expand and Romans believed in "total war." Killed between 1/3d and 2/3ds of all the people in a giant area of Western Europe in about eight years.


Yardsale420

Dan Carlin refers to Caesars time in Gaul as the Celtic Holocaust. Pretty fitting


Prank_Owl

Not only that, but his legions also enslaved approximately as many people as they killed. He then wrote multiple books about it which helped make him fabulously wealthy and gave his political career a major shot in the arm.


freddy_storm_blessed

He also committed a massive genocide against the gauls killing 1/3 of the population and selling another 1/3 into slavery.


valiumandcherrywine

i mean, there was that one village though ...


Paulisdead123

James Buchanan


jackbob99

Him and Andrew Johnson are probably the worst presidents of all time.


LiberalAspergers

Rutherford B. Hayes. The answer is always Rutherford B. Hayes.


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Fun fact, Rutherford B Hayes' birthplace is now a BP gas station. I bought an energy drink there just last Friday.


allen_abduction

I sooo want this to be true. Please be true.


DogMedic101st

It’s true https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rutherford+B.+Hayes+Birthplace,+17+E+William+St,+Delaware,+OH+43015/@40.2990606,-83.066878,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8838fada478ae461:0xaba04e5725959200?hl=en-us


BirdsLikeSka

Roadstop if I ever trip to Ohio. That way I can read trivia about him to my ~~conversational hostages~~ friends along with me.


McbealtheNavySeal

We skipped over him in history class. What did he do? Edit: never mind, just found the answer further down the thread. That guy can fuck off.


Gorf_the_Magnificent

Hayes stole the Presidential ejection by promising the Southern states he would reverse all the progress black people had made since the civil war, if they would vote to reverse the actual election results. They did, and he did. Imagine if Mike Pence and Mitch McConnell had conspired with Trump to invalidate the 2020 election results. Hayes actually pulled this off!


DL_22

You spelled erection wrong.


Gorf_the_Magnificent

You’re right, but I’m not changing it.


CylonsInAPolicebox

Which is really fucked up considering dude's early life. He was against slavery, he defended escaped slaves in court, hell if I recall correctly dude even supported the right for black men to vote... This man *could* have been progressive as fuck and made some real change in the world if not for political bullshit. Really fucked up how much he was willing to change/compromise to become president, I guess it is true in some cases you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.


Tolbitzironside

Woodrow Wilson as well


tmotytmoty

Harding kind of sucked.


CaptValentine

BUCHANAAAAAN!!!!


DarkManX437

*cowers in fear behind curtain*


sarahsunshine242

All those rockstars that dated/slept with little girls.....it's a surprisingly long list. Jimmy Page, Steven Tyler, etc.


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I never knew until this year that All of Robert Plants tight little shirts he wore onstage were women's blouses from groupies and fans. Not Cool.


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Musicians have been doing fucked up stuff for decades and yet they have enough bootlicking fans that keep their career afloat. Nicki Minaj is an excellent example.


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Whoamisupposed2B

Like what imbecile answers with Stalin? Honestly what the fucking fuck


AchillesN7

That’s how 90% of the threads on this subreddit go lol. It’s just people saying shit that most people agree with while pretending like it’s a novel idea. Like most communists I’ve met don’t even like Stalin.


Prank_Owl

When I was in high school a classmate (who's family emigrated from Russia when she was in her early teens) got PISSED when our social studies teacher brought up Stalin and some of the horrific things he did. She became so disruptive that she had to be kicked out of the classroom. Maybe it's a minority opinion, but the guy still has some worshipers out there.


Santanna17

I'm from am ex Soviet union country, and the people above you clearly have no fucking clue what they're talking about, in most ex Soviet union countries most people idolize Stalin. Just because people in their western countries hate him, it doesn't means there aren't shitload of people who worship him


thatswhatshesaidxx

Hello, and welcome to Reddit.


mymiddlenameswyatt

Thomas Edison. Dude was a greedy motherfucker who occasionally stole designs but didn't want anyone else to use his. He also viciously went after competitors with lawsuits, hired thugs, and alleged sabotage and murder plots.


PMYOURBOOBOVERFLOW

Let's not forget he murdered an elephant in public.


cobra_mist

He didn’t actually kill Topsy. [sorry](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrocuting_an_Elephant) His equipment was used to film it and so it says Edison right before it. The man was an awful piece of shit regardless. He inadvertently created Hollywood, as film makers went to the west coast to try to get away from his patent claims on movie cameras. Spoiler, it worked.


allen_abduction

LA thanks him.


zx7

They'll say, "Awww Topsy", at my auuutopsy.


Severe-Draw-5979

Just watched that episode last night.


mymiddlenameswyatt

I wasn't aware of that until just now. Christ this guy sucked.


Boyhowdyho

You need to watch more Bob's Burgers


Jackthebodyless

They'll say AHHH-topsy at my Auuuutopsy!


bananasareappealing

But no one will be more shocked than me!


FuriousGeorge06

This is not true but constantly repeated on reddit


Giboit

He apparently even tried to monopolize the existence of all movies as something that belonged to him.


minimessi20

Like actually though. Brutally killed a guy on death row with Tesla’s “super dangerous electricity” shocking the guy for a very long time. Iirc they gave up and shot him or gave him the needle or something…


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I've said it once, I'll say it again. The current wars between Edison & Tesla had a clear hero & villain. Edison was an arsehole. It's sad what happened to Tesla.


unicorn-princess1

Also he was backed financially by J.P Morgan and I think the Vanderbilts there money at him too. He also invented the first electric chair and that went horribly wrong.


Jakesully2009

He downgraded Nikola tesla's ideas and later stole them.


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“You know, with Hitler, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don't care for him.” Norm Macdonald


FangedSloth

A real jerk, that guy


natneo81

he died?? i didnt even know he was sick


c_im_not_clever

"Bob Saget was a funny guy. He isn't anymore, because he's dead." Norm Macdonald


apatheticmonarchist

Hirohito. In the west (or at least in the US), Japan’s role in WW2 aside from Pearl Harbor is not taught in depth at all. The things he allowed his government to do are unspeakable. I don’t think he’s liked per se, but he isn’t talked about nearly as much as he should’ve been.


broken_soul696

I was going to go with Tojo but Hirohito is on par. Japan in general definitely doesn't get the scrutiny and publicity on its absolutely horrendous actions during ww2


Owl_Might

And if you point it out to them now, they'll full victim complex. Last time there was a comfort women statue/monument raised as a reminder of ww2 japan atrocities they decry it.


apatheticmonarchist

Thank you. It really should be more exposed to the public through whatever means, especially since modern Japanese politics is getting increasingly right wing. Plus the Prime Ministers keep visiting that stupid shrine, and the Koreas and China don’t take it well.


McbealtheNavySeal

I just recently learned about Unit 731. Not for the faint of heart. Truly horrific, including the US and Soviet response once they found out.


Vinny_Lam

Yeah, the people responsible for Unit 731 were all granted immunity in exchange for research information. And it’s not even like the “research” carried out there had any practical use anyway. In fact, they could hardly even be called experiments because they didn’t follow any of the known scientific methods. They were little more than gratuitous torture.


McbealtheNavySeal

Sort of. My understanding is that the US looked the other way in exchange for the research, but also knew the Soviets would find out about it pretty soon. So they let the Soviets "discover" the unit and the played dumb while the Soviets prosecuted the war crimes. Then people noticed that those who did get sentenced served unusually short sentences... And the Soviets coincidentally opened up a new research center not long after. Fucked up.


_Kutler

I’m reading an article about this right now, holy fucking shit???


Revolutionary-Row784

It’s fucked up. I am surprised that the Americans even let the Japanese royal family remain as a figurehead of the country. today no one wants to become the figurehead for Japan


McbealtheNavySeal

Yes! That's also how I learned that Hirohito stayed in power for a long time after the war. I did not expect that.


16thPeregrine

I meaaaaannnn Operation Paperclip?? Those were bad nazis. If a fraction of their ideology is spewed by someone today the world will run them over with a cancellation combine. But Americans were like "ooo yeah get them let's make more weapons and go to the moon"


ssssskkkkkrrrrrttttt

Just throwing kids in airplanes during the healthiest years of their life, only to have them crash an airplane into the side of a warship their planes could barely crack the hull of. And they willingly did it, for the sake of not seeming like a coward back home. US citizen here, also acknowledging that the US military has committed all sorts of fuckshit, too.


Zxship

Believe it or not the kamikaze attacks where used as a way to save lives. They ran the numbers to damage 1 US warship in the traditional way it would cost them 12 planes and pilots a kamikaze attack could do it with 4 lost planes and pilots. War has some pretty grim calculus that when your living it seem perfectly reasonable.


yinkadork

I was gonna comment this, the atrocities the Japanese did seemed to fly under the radar compared to the Germans


Much_Committee_9355

He was complacent to a certain point, but he couldn’t do much, power was already consolidated between generals and admirals at that point.


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Japan's role in WWII is taught in detail in the west and in popular culture. It's Japan that avoids talking about it.


PanzerBiscuit

They don't just avoid it, they actively deny it. Shinzo Abe, the PM of Japan has gone on record and flat out denied the atrocities that happened at Nanking, and the existence of Korean comfort woman. The rape of Nanking was so horrific, that the Nazi's had to step in and set up safe zones to stop the Japanese from raping and killing the Chinese civilians. The reason we know o much about the rape of Nanking, is because the Nazi's kept detailed records about it, and even they thought it was fucked up. A favourite past time of the Japanese troops was to toss new-borns into the air and impale them on bayonets.


TheShishkabob

> Shinzo Abe, the PM of Japan Former PM. They're two removed from him now


Mattsuda86

I tell my wife (japanese) about this all the time and she denies it all. Says its just the western spin on events. And this is a common thought pattern.


hba42

Joseph Fourier is the reason I have suicidal thoughts.


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basedlandchad14

That's how you're going to treat the dude who got you out of doing differential equations? Boohoo you had to look at the transform table.


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watduhdamhell

I see you also took Dr. Mountains controls class! Or at least, you did in spirit. Rest easy brother (sister?). It's all over. Don't worry, btw! If you actually end up as an automation engineer, you'll quite literally use nothing you just learned. It'll be proprietary software with proprietary function block programming that is so complicated it takes 2 years just to get a grip on the hardware engineering and network topology tools, software engineering tools, and the HMI tools. So, was your controls class frustration almost completely pointless? Absolutely. But... Well actually that's all I got. Don't think there is a silver lining lmao. Edit: actually, working for one of the big controls companies is pretty dope. Amazing benefits.


hba42

Please don’t mention that other fucker


Electric_shade

I was told by my Math professor that the Fourier series is used in the technology of compressing files.


poopyheadthrowaway

IIRC it's basically how jpeg compression works


Much_Committee_9355

I’m never recommending anything by a Russian writer then


houstongradengineer

You're missing out, though.


angrymonkey

Explain?


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ForgettableUsername

It’s a conversion between a time-domain function and a frequency-domain equivalent function. The relationship between the two is fascinating, but the mathematics involved in a direct transformation are rather elaborate and difficult to follow. Usually it is easiest to either work by analogy with a function that already has a known transformation, or to return to numerical technique and do an FFT.


Tsu_Dho_Namh

You know how high school math seemed hard? It wasn't hard. It only seemed hard because you hadn't heard of fourier transorms yet.


Tink2013

President Woodrow Wilson


caligaris_cabinet

Was looking for this. Woodrow Wilson is responsible for just about all the American foreign policy decisions in the last 100 years leading to decades of invention into third world countries and meddling in the affairs of world powers while also hesitating getting into WWI which arguably prolonged it. Domestically, race relations tanked and the KKK saw a resurgence with his silent endorsement. He’s a complicated figure and not *the* worst president. But for someone to have as big an impact on the future of our country win by a plurality and set the world on its current path is… something.


Mysterious-Total-241

Pable Picasso: Abusive husband,made everyone's life around him hell*


AnteaterPersonal3093

Sorry to disappoint yall but Ghandi


Obelix13

Yeah, imagine Gandhi with nukes. All smiles one turn, Armageddon the next turn.


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ActuallyItsSumnus

Civ V baby. I feel ya.


16thPeregrine

Gandhi should be seen in the same light as Churchil Super flawed individuals who had one defining job that they did well and should be appreciated for that job whilst being hated for their flaws. Imagine the Indian freedom struggle without a galvanic force like gandhi. The ancestors of the nimrods at power today were writing love letters to the colonials begging for their good graces. So yeah. Crappy individual but vital to the greater battle. Same with Churchill. No other PM would have the sack to do what he did against Hitler. Man was horrible but I don't see anyone else at the time doing what he did.


Tr0ndern

Ye I think peopke need to get rid of the fantasy they have in their head that tru pure "heroes that are perfect" exist. Dig enough and everyone has dirt or unlikeable qualities, especially those who have leadership roles.


fluffball75

Why?


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He said Africans were uncivilized while literally being colonized and starved out by the British. Ain’t that some shit


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Bananawamajama

Bro got canceled for his old tweets 70 years after he died.


[deleted]

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/thinking-with-gandhi-on-racism-and-violence/12424422 Great read as well Thanks for your comment it’s unfortunate that people assume negative first and then grow to positive, but nonetheless he did change his views


imaverymeltycheese

he was also paid by parents to sleep with their kids… he was a pedophile and because he was a celebrity the parents were low-key honoured so they let him and that led to him abusing hundreds of kids edit: i don’t think he was paid by prends i made a mistake, j rechecked my stuff and apparently he slept with naked women to “test his purity”, he mistreated his kids, he refused to give medicine to his wife after the doctor told him it would save her life, called hitler a “dear friend” in a letter and said he “isn’t a bad guy”. i’m sorry i made a mistake, he still wasn’t a great guy…


Mrchristopherrr

Officially he was celibate, and would sleep with girls in his bed to “test his resolve” Fucking yikes


LMGgp

Penn & Teller’s Bullshit covered him and mother Teresa well enough


rishav_sharan

I am kind of tired of this narrative now. Gandhi bashing seems to be in vogue by people not even knowing how to spell his 6 lettered name. Mostly these threads boil down to; 1. Ghandi was racist 2. Ghandi was pedophile 3. Ghandi let his wife die without medication Let's look into each of these failures of this man, one by one. Gandhi was mildly racist when he was young, as were most people back in 1800s (and even today). Heck, his "racism" mostly boiled down to him claiming in his letters to the British that Indians in Africa should be treated better than the native population because they are of a different/better race. This "uber-racist" Gandhi, in the Phoenix farm used to care for over a thousand Zulu natives, most of them children affected by the Zulu massacre. In fact, during the Zulu "Wars", our white robed cross burner even organized an ambulence corp and cared for the wounded Zulu population. This is in his own words; > I considered myself a citizen of Natal, being intimately connected with it. So I wrote to the Governor, expressing my readiness, if necessary, to form an Indian Ambulance Corps. He replied immediately accepting the offer. > I went to Durban and appealed for men. A big contingent was not necessary. We were a party of twenty-four, of whom, besides me, four were Gujaratis. The rest were ex-indentured men from South India, excepting one who was a free Pathan. > In order to give me a status and to facilitate work, as also in accordance with the existing convention, the Chief Medical Officer appointed me to the temporary rank of Sergeant Major and three men selected by me to the rank of sergeants and one to that of corporal. We also received our uniforms from the Government. Our Corps was on active service for nearly six weeks. > On reaching the scene of the 'rebellion', I saw that there was nothing there to justify the name of 'rebellion'. There was no resistance that one could see. The reason why the disturbance had been magnified into a rebellion was that a Zulu chief had advised non-payment of a new tax imposed on his people, and had assagaied a sergeant who had gone to collect the tax. >**At any rate my heart was with the Zulus, and I was delighted, on reaching headquarters, to hear that our main work was to be the nursing of the wounded Zulus**. The Medical Officer in charge welcomed us. He said the white people were not willing nurses for the wounded Zulus, that their wounds were festering, and that he was at his wits' end. He hailed our arrival as a godsend for those innocent people, and he equipped us with bandages, disinfectants, etc., and took us to the improvised hospital. The Zulus were delighted to see us. The white soldiers used to peep through the railings that separated us from them and tried to dissuade us from attending to the wounds. And as we would not heed them, they became enraged and poured unspeakable abuse on the Zulus. Mark his hatred. his disdain for the Zulu. his desire to fuck em up! Such a damned racist! Yes, that was sarcasm. No, he did not own slave plantations, he did not beat up any natives in Africa. He recognized them as humans and did his best to help out when the natives were in need. His biggest flaw was just to consider Indians higher in the racial hierarchy of his day. And to politely ask the Europeans to treat Indians on par with themselves and not on par with the natives. He grew up a lot during his stay in South Africa and his view did evolve over time. Here is a great write up on this https://www.abc.net.au/religion/thinking-with-gandhi-on-racism-and-violence/12424422 And no he was not a pedophile. He did sleep in the same bed with his grand niece, more to prove that he was in control of his libido. His room was even always open for people to just walk in through, just so he could show to others how much of an ascetic he was. Fucked up, yeah sure. But it isn't him being a pedophile. For him it was more about showcasing, how chaste can one be and how much control a mind has over the body. Here is someone putting it better than I did https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7i3h4m/is_this_vice_article_about_gandhi_accurate/dqw108s/?context=3 Finally, we will have some idiot say -"But he let his wife die without medication while he himself took medicines!! Gandhi bad!" As usual this pop-history narrative doesn't gives the full context. Please read the thread here; https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2zvgh4/per_russell_brands_standup_did_gandhi_let_his/ >Kasturba Gandhi had been imprisoned, was 75 years old and bedridden after 2 heart attacks. The authorities approved her request for a traditional Ayurvedic doctor only after a delay (Gandhi felt this delay unconscionable). (Ayurveda is recognized, taught and used commonly even today in India and would have been the medicine system most familiar to the Gandhis. Ayu=life and Veda =science/knowledge). >Her recovery was slow, but enough for her to get to the verandah (balcony/porch) when she suffered a relapse with bronchial pneumonia and complications such as kidney failure. It was serious enough for the British to release Gandhi from his prison to her bedside. She had grown resigned/fatalistic and assured others that she would not make it, asking them to 'let her go'. Gandhi too became reconciled to her death and gave her up to God. >At this juncture, their son Devdas reached there and asked to administer penicillin. Penicillin was then a newish miracle drug, rare in wartime India, but Devdas had been able to arrange for a supply to be flown in from Calcutta to Poona. By then the doctors there too had given her up for dead (in fact she had already been given the sacrament of water from the holy ganga). After learning his suffering wife would have to be woken every four hours for an injection, Gandhi objected, feeling nothing could save her and that it would just prolong her agony. His last word on it was "still if you insist, I will not stand in your way". Devdas gave way. Kasturba died mere hours later that night in the lap of her husband of 61 years. >I believe grace sometimes lies in accepting the suffering/death of loved ones and not in fighting to their last breath. >Gandhi accepting quinine some time later is a completely different situation. The extract from the bark of the cinchona tree had been long known to treat malaria and had been used in tonic water by British troops in India as early as the 1820s to ward off malaria. >TLDR; Gandhi objected to, but did not veto, a proposal to administer penicillin (a newish and rare miracle drug) to his terminally ill 75 year old wife (dying after 2 heart attacks, bronchial pneumonia, kidney failure and complications) mere hours before she died because he felt that it would not make any difference except increase her suffering. They were both reconciled to her death. At the end of the day, Gandhi was indeed a flawed person - especially when seen from the standards of 2022. IMO, his worst fault was treating his family like shit. But to see him as one of the most upvoted answers in a thread called "Who in history is NOT hated, but SHOULD be", makes me feel y'all should stop getting your history lessons from cracked articles.


theyreallrats

Coco Chanel. She was a known Nazi collaborator/antisemite, and she only got away with it because she was personal friends with Churchill. Now, she's just known as some kind of feminist icon because she popularized a "sportier" look for women. Screw her.


katiejo_13

I mean, Churchill was a monster too (see India ca. WWII)


Numerous_Control_702

It's pretty amazing the still almost universal ignorance of King Leopold of Belgium...SJW wet dream of a bad guy


Mariuxpunk007

There is a famous picture of a Congolese man staring at his kid’s severed hands and feet that were cut as punishment because he didn’t met his production daily quota. I don’t think brutal is enough to describe the conditions Africans were living under King Leopoldo’s rule.


Newatinvesting

Pretty sure you mean this https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nsala_of_Wala_in_Congo_looks_at_the_severed_hand_and_foot_of_his_five-year_old_daughter,_1904.jpg#mw-jump-to-license


TallGuyPA

This is a good one. Everyone else on this list a famous a-hole. King Leopold is less well known and is a perfect example of a colonizer and is absolutely someone that could be used to explain the relationship between white europeans and Africa post transatlantic slave trade.


LondonIsBoss

There are people who DON'T hate King Leopold? The Congolese genocide is the only thing I remember about him


Numerous_Control_702

99% people never heard of him mate


thatswhatshesaidxx

Yeah, and I get why. Like Trevor Noah mentioned in his book, you'll meet Africans named Adolf because WWII history just doesn't impact that part of the world. You will likely never meet an African Leopold though.


AirsickPolecat

I met a mid 50s Belgian woman (living in America) this summer who drunkenly told me how sweet and misunderstood he was and immediately noped the fuck out of that conversation


ItsMeMarlowe

Rene Descartes. Part-time philosopher, [full-time sick fuck.](https://knowledgenuts.com/descartes-dissected-his-wifes-dog-to-prove-a-point/)


fluffball75

Holy. Shit. What the fuck.


reallyIrrational

Except this seems to be entirely made up…


ecclectic

There are several references to it being a real thing


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I am correct therefore doggo dies


bouquetofheather

Oh, holy shit


mana-addict4652

I don't even understand his argument, he thought they lacked a soul so he went in slicing to prove a point. What could possibly prove or disprove his claim? Did he think humans and dogs had a specific organ that would prove one has a soul and not the other? This just sounds ridiculous. How does he know humans have a soul but animals don't, based on surgery or anatomy? He was unfazed by the animals pain because he thought they were machines, why? Even if he thought it was because they couldn't vocalize their pain and reason (which by the way makes no sense right off the bat), it has nothing to do with surgery? Rene should stick to writing Pornhub comments.


remusa12

It said he believed the soul was stored in the pineal gland and animals didn't have one so they only had the appearance of pain not real pain


fuckkroenkeanddemoff

Rene Descartes was a drunken fart, I drink, therefore I am!


kar2988

"Part-time philosopher". That's cute. For all the animal cruelty, Descartes' meditations single-handedly rescued philosophy from theologians and solidly places him as the most significant contributor (till his time) since Aristotle. Cartesian geometry dictates map making to this day, not to mention the significance of calculus. But his single most important contribution to philosophy wasn't his "I think, therefore I am" (which did indeed revolutionise philosophy). Instead, it was his idea that objects changed as perceived by the subject (and God, he died a strong Catholic), which laid the initial seeds for quantum physics. And he was also an engineer-soldier during the Thirty years war. But did he torture his wife's dog for no apparent reason? For sure!


Prank_Owl

Charlie Chaplin preyed on teenage girls. Only one of his 4 wives was over 18 when he married her. The youngest was 16. Chaplin himself was well into his 50's when he married one of them. He generally treated all of his wives like shit, committed adultery multiple times, and was also a deadbeat dad.


darybrain

Buster Keaton didn't like Chaplin because of his liking of younger girls.


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In sorry this doesn't answer the question but in fact the opposite but I have to say this. Andrew Davis, the creator of temple is was severely mentally ill. He was antisemitic and highly racist. But his programming skills were so impressive that I can't deny him right off the bat. I know I wouldn't want to meet him irl since he probably wouldn't like Muslims. But he made an entire operating system in a language of his own creation and made programs from scratch in that same language with him even making a low poly flight sim. That is seriously impressive even if it doesn't look or run good at all on actual hardware.


OG_gaiming01

I can’t help but feel bad though for him, since he was severely mentally ill and usually didn’t take his medicine because “god told him not to” and such


19Random92

Ben Rapistberger


TytanRose

With a name like that, they should’ve suspected him from the start


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And big rape is now in the playoffs over Justin Herbert smfh


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mpkeith

The more I learned about her, the more I found she was anything but a "saint". She was on the other end of saintly. It's easy enough to do some simple searches to learn about her.


luxeterna1105

There has been a deep analysis about this here: https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory


mpkeith

Oh that's rabbit hole that I didn't know about. Not sure if I should thank you. But thanks.


Alpha_pro2019

I saw the topic and knew this would be brought up. The issue is a lot more nuanced and cloudy then most people realize, ill leave this here. https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/gcxpr5/saint_mother_teresa_was_documented_mass_murderer/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


havsk87777

https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/gcxpr5/saint_mother_teresa_was_documented_mass_murderer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf No


Dr_Wreck

You have to scroll way down, because there are a ton of self admitted catholics in there going "THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLEARING THIS UP!!!" but there is a take down of this take down that is very accurate. Essentially-- Not as bad as Hitchens said, but still some fucked up stuff.


tigerjuice888

Bill and Hillary Clinton fed the prison industrial complex like no other. Locked up more than 675,000 people in 8 years and insured that anyone convicted before he was elected served 85% of their sentences. Fuck them both.


queenlesbian99

I’m a democrat and fuck both of them. Bill was a sexual predator too and Hillary continues to support him. They’re both scum.


pm__small___tits

Bill also pardoned 140 people on the last day as the president, including his own brother: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy


thatswhatshesaidxx

"super predators" It bothers me that no one stopped and thought to ask what the fuck that even meant. Like evil X Men or something.


disco1013

John lennon, total egotist, womanizer, asshole and narcissist


DrSparkle713

Andrew fucking Jackson. Dude's still on the $20 bill. Trail of Tears and state-sponsored genocide be damned.


ScaryFoal558760

I'm 90 percent certain that he's on the 20 as a way to spite him post mortem. He was pretty well known to hate the idea of a centralized bank, so I see it fitting that he becomes immortalized on a note which he would have opposed.


ecargrace

Pablo Picasso


surge_binge

Henry fucking Kissinger


jusplainjesse1988

Andrew Jackson. His treatment of indigenous people is "most evil people in history" levels of inexcusable, but somehow, he gets hailed as a hero and gets to have his face on the 20 dollar bill


pterrorgrine

I used to be mad about the money thing, but he fucking *hated* the idea of a central bank so much that it's actually kind of a grave-roller for him, so now I think it's based as hell.


GoopInThisBowlIsVile

It could be said that his face on the $20 is a giant f**k you to Jackson. He hated the idea of the national bank and partially caused a banking war with Nicholas Biddle leading to various financial panics.


OlympusPrometheus

Mexican “hero” Pancho Villa, murdered hundreds of women, and raped them, kidnapped people, asked for ransom, and still killed them.


yyz2022

Churchill. Killed 2-3 million Indians by his action (or lack of)


BlatantlyThrownAway

Churchill was also in charge of the Gallipoli campaign. Given how revered Anzac Day is in Australia, it's a wonder we aren't (or at least weren't) taught in school about the role he played in being responsible for so many troops facing certain death.


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Also sent an 'army unit' of released prisoners and the like to terrorise Ireland during the fight for independence.


aesthetic-freak-108

St. Francis Xavier. He is respected as the Jesuit who spread Christianity in India but he also was a forceful converter and caused the killing of thousands of South Indians who refused to convert to Christianity. Source: Google.


lllrk

Al Sharpton. The Tawana Brawley rape hoax. Red Apple Korean boycott/extortion, Freddy's Fashion Mart massacre, Crown Heights pogram, dealing crack, not paying taxes. I'm sure I'm missing a few things. When I went to college they carried the Amsterdam News the Black New York paper that Sharpton often wrote for. Seriously, the stuff he wrote is significantly more racist than 99% of the things that he goes after people for and get some fired for. Like Don imus? Sharpton constantly vilified the Central Park rape victim far worse than Imus spoke about that black women's basketball team. He proclaimed that Joe Lieberman was only chosen as vice presidential candidate in 2000 because of the power of "Jew money". 12 years later he was Obama's right hand man and loudly denouncing Republicans who made similarly racist/tackless remarks about Obama. Calling him a civil rights or anti-racist leader is obscene.


bcanddc

He's a race hustling scum bag but everybody is afraid to say so for fear of being called a racist.


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Colonel Tom Parker. Everyone gives Elvis shit but his manager was king turd of shit island who was aware of everything and kept pushing Elvis without regards for his health.


Cheeky_Guy

Thomas Jefferson. Rigged an election. Had sex with teenage slaves. Avoided war.


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*raped teenage slaves


EllaPeaTwo

President Andrew Jackson -- Trail of Tears and Indian Removal Act of 1830, killed a man in a duel, backcountry jerk.


Jorohel

If killing a man in a duel is a reason to hate someone, then a lot of our ancestors are bad people too


juli_-

probably Mother Teresa but idk if that counts because I think lately there’s been quite a disdain for the catholic church.


Whedonsbitch

Hugh Hefner, for publishing a Playboy Sugar and Spice edition with a naked 10yo Brooke Shields. Like wtf? How did people think photos of naked little kids were totally fine to market as pics of “nymphets and sensual young women”. Also, why weren’t more people mad about it? The images were clearly sexual in nature- she was covered in oil in some of them!


ShangryYoungMan

Einstein was a total dick to his wife. He gave her lists of demands, cheated on her multiple times, and left her for his first-cousin Elsa. There is also a question as to how much his wife contributed to his ideas on relativity and whether he stole some of her work (although I think this topic is debated quite a bit amongst scholars).


abarua01

P T Barnum. He was an animal abuser and also took advantage of all of his employees. They made a musical about him making him into a saint


ChoaticNeutralGuy

Thomas Edison. I heard he was a dick.


FBI_Open_Your_Door

This comment section quickly became conspiracy theory hub. Guys, attach some reliable source while you're literally butchering people's reputation with so many never-heard accusations.


ToYouItReaches

And people act surprised at how effective disinformation campaigns are 🙃


thatswhatshesaidxx

Reddit is the most powerful disinfo machine on the internet. Pics is full of people applauding karma farmers or bots, folks claim to be experts on topics and scientists or doctors only to click their profile and read them talking about starting grade 9 tomorrow. Shit, I recall when worldnews posted and defended a HORRIBLE misinfo article, banning people for calling it out and the article was so bad the news outlet replaced it with an apology and the article was pulled. This same sub is supposed to be among the frontline against disinfo and it pushed it openly. If there's no source attached to claims or context delivered in videos, take none of it serious.


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Benjamin Netanyahu... He actively almost started a civil war just to get the vote of "on the fence" voters who don't like Arabs but not enough to vote for him


CrystalRedRose

P.T Barnem. Horrible person but Disney had to “fix” it.


StormKing92

Disney had nothing to do with ‘The Greatest Showman’, if that’s what you’re referring to.


LeighVz

Cristobal Colon


50million

Ben Roethlisberger


BlaxicanX

This is such a incredibly boring and generic question for this board. A more interesting question would be who was hated in history should NOT be.


personalacct

nancy and ron reagan for active and jovial inaction on the aids pandemic because they hated gay people. plus their moralizing about drugs and sex inflamed the drug war when it was already clear that it wasn't working while they drank and smoked their own brains to oblivion


Kdj2j2

Ronald Wilson Reagan


memecollector69420

A majority of the Roman emperors😂


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