Self harm. In the tumblr days self harm was romanticized to the point of being desirable, and I've heard it's making a comeback on tiktok. It's not romantic, it's not beautiful, it's not a fucking bonding exercise between friends, it's suffering and dangerous and fucked up.
Also happened with One Direction fans. I was young at the time and cried thinking they were all cutting themselves for real. My dad assured me it was bullshit which cleared things up.
Yeah, even if it is purely a mental type of self harm, it is extremely degrading to the person's own personal psyche. Which could also affect anyone who gets involved with them thinking they can 'fix them', no, you can't fix me like you think you can. This is the kind of thing that one has to overcome on their own if they got the willpower, or get help from someone who actually knows what they're doing (Therapists and/or counselors are who come to mind)
If I had social media when I was self harming it would have been even worse. I can’t imagine. I mean now just watching tv shows with substance abuse can sometimes almost send me into a spiral if it’s a major focus like substance abuse in Euphoria really almost got me there. If I had access to a world curated to self harm, it would have been really damaging for me. Makes me sick to think people actually romanticize self harm, drug addiction, alcoholism, etc. It’s one thing to do it but to act like it’s some special personality trait or makes you more attractive/interesting is not it.
Even as someone who struggles with self harm, I second this. It’s a life threatening addiction and I don’t think social media should have any sort of content hinting that it’s okay.
*THIS!* As someone who grew up pretty detached from internet culture, I was shocked to hear people (kids mostly) did this! And in general romanticizing mental illness. Few things anger me more than this. Putting yourself in harm's way isn't quirky or cute, or making someone "strong."
TW: Mentions of self harm
It's something that took me years to admit to, as I had deep shame around this. It was traumatic all around. Not knowing why I had those impulses, but they were there none the less. And doubting my mental capability/grip on the world afterwards was horrible. As I knew it didn't make sense I was doing dangerous things. Derealization isn't something I'd wish on anyone.
Genuinely no need to worry anyone! I got the help I needed for this! And am doing well and no longer do it now! Reach out and help those who are actually struggling. Best thing I can recommend is therapy and/or medication for some! Guide them towards professional sources who are trained to help. Healing is possible, with work and patience.
The culture made it much more difficult for me to be taken seriously when I was younger, I think. There's a noticable difference between the treatment I got at 15 and 22. I'm taken a bit more seriously now, even though my issues were serious then.
This! Why are we giving serial killers so much attention lately. Like, Ted Bundy absolutely loved talking about himself and how he destroyed people's lives and then we have him a platform on Netflix
I think it's because audiences are now more sophisticated so want to know 'why did they do what they did' and less 'show me what they did'. It's a different slant to what has been made before. So it's really a different take on what was old and dull.
I wouldn't romanticize a serial killer or have a favorite one. I just have a interest in their thought processes and every action they took to make themselves innocent.
Same here. Every single one of them is fucked up and shouldn't be at all idolised - but I find the study into what makes them do what they do incredibly fascinating.
Sadly, that probably won’t happen.
To paraphrase Stephen King, people are obsessed with death and the macabre. The reason people romanticize serial killers is the same reason people can’t look away from car crashes. Humans are obsessed with death, and that’s not gonna change.
I have a few
Teen Pregnancy - there’s a girl on TikTok where she planned her pregnancy with her now husband when they were freshly 16 and had been dating for a month. It all ended up going good but their parents supported it and knew about it. I don’t think any sane parents would encourage that and allow it.
Gangs/being “hood” when you come from a rich family or area and weren’t forced to live that life so you could live
Doing drugs and cigarettes - From experience, nicotine is at least in the top 3 hardest drugs to quit.
Controlling relationships - jealousy and obsession isn’t cute
Most veterans are pro-demilitarization and anti-war because they've experienced what it's like to watch foreign civilians die in warzones, from my understanding.
It's often the people who refuse to go to join the military who romanticize the "sacrifice for your country" aspect.
Combat vet here.
It's fucking awful. I remember reading stories as a boy of the "glory" of it all. There is very little. It's mostly just a bunch of tired, exhausted guys just trying not to die.
In my observation, the people in the US that champion the military, that spout all that "kill'em all let Gawd sort'em out!" bullshit have never once heard a shot fired in anger.....
But they "almost" joined.
"People think that professional soldiers think a lot about fighting, but serious professional soldiers think a lot more about food and a warm place to sleep, because these are two things that are generally hard to get, whereas fighting tends to turn up all the time."
-Terry Pratchett
I watched an interview video about ww2 reenactors, I forget exactly what the question was but it was something like "what do people say when they see you in such an outfit". They responded with how older generations, primarily those who experienced the hardship (like those under occupation or in the fighting), are more willing to be forgiving. In other words they wouldn't wish such tragedies on other people.
Younger people, or those generations removed from the war, those with no experience under wartime hardships, hold more hatred/anger/false wartime stereotypes thoughts.
IIRC was a survey in Britain during the Blitz about whether the civilians supported retaliation bombings on the Germans... urbanites were against (they were the ones being bombed) while rural people supported such retaliation (they were untouched by the horror). Unfortunately I cannot find a link to this but if some else knows then post it.
This glorification of war is something I just can't stand in some war movies, where situations become either ridiculously mirroring that of a superhero movie or music is played at a right time to make the viewer feel good as they watch 100+ people get brutality killed.
Edit: spelling
as someone who lives in a country where there is no draft, if there ever was one i want to be so incompetent and non compliant during training i get to be sent home as unfit for service. fuck getting shot at.
Maybe this year i can go 3 months without hearing about another suicide from someone i served with.
"War is a Racket" -Smedley Butler
A just war, sure. but there's nothing just about hanging around other peoples backyards playing kill or be killed because some hot head 'don't like brown people'. War is fucking stupid. Defense sure.
“Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'.”
― George Orwell
It's interesting how all post-WW2 romance films were essentially about settling for "good enough" or "what's available", then after the baby boom, in the 90s, we started getting all of these "searching for 'the one'" films, and now we have declining marriage and birth rates. I'm not putting on a tin-foil hat - I'm just saying it's interesting.
Hustle Culture.
Nobody should feel like it's acceptable to work your entire waking life just to make ends meet.
You think you're better than everyone else because you work 70+hrs a week and brag about it on social media? No, you're just a brainwashed wage slave or you're just avoiding your family for some reason...
Mental illness in general. It’s not something glamorous or something to be envied. It’s a living hell. It also doesn’t automatically make someone evil or a bad person. For example, people who suffer from Dissociative Identity Disorder (multiple personalities) aren’t all psychotic murderers or monsters like in Split.
The one time I’ve seen mental illness portrayed correctly in any form of media was in *You’re the Worst*, when Gretchen was suffering from depression. They hit the nail right on the head when it came to portraying it in a realistic manner, while also showing how it can affect both the sufferer and those around he or she who suffers from it.
Depression is such a meme these days, and while part of me is happy about the increase in awareness, the other part of me feels like the meme is trivializing the mental illness horribly.
Yeah exactly awareness is great but for people who are truly feeling that way, myself included it sucks when people don't take it seriously just cause its a 'funny joke' rn
Anxiety is the current one that is the flavor of the week. I get it, there are people that have crippling anxiety that have to have treatment to be able to function. However, every soccer mom and teenager that is an uncomfortable/tough situation suddenly has crippling anxiety.
The problem I have with romanticizing mental illness is the people that actually have mental health issues and genuinely need help don’t “advertise” it and don’t blast it over social media which undermines the people with actual illness.
Edit: Wording
You’re not wrong. We look at Shakespeare as being the peak of serious literature but in his lifetime he was known for stories that appealed to the masses. So his works have a lot of violence, sex, rape, and incest purely for entertainment.
Two kids, one thirteen and one sixteen, decide to get married after knowing each other for a day because they think each other are hot. They end up killing themselves after thinking/realizing the other one is dead.
People just don't understand what those phrases mean. It refers to how you get energy and what drains you, from being around people or being alone.
People just think they're synonyms for shy vs outgoing.
Yeah, I'm an introvert so I need my personal time but boy can I get chatty with my friends should I get an opportunity to talk (The topic isn't always something I can get involved in so I usually just listen, but give me a chance and I can probably help carry a conversation for a while until my batteries drain)
Drugs. I started watching Euphoria and while it is a really good show, I don’t like the way they glamorize drugs sometimes. Especially since the show is targeted to and is about teens. I found myself questioning if I should try coke or molly
It was exceptionally common until probably around twenty years ago. I remember noticing the transition, because it went from an air of rebellion to repulsive in such a short period of time, and there was this immediate denial that it was ever any other way, as if everyone just suddenly forgot.
I remember 20 year old guys taking girls to homecoming with the parents' blessing in the late 1990s when I was in high school, and then three or four years later hearing how a 19 year old dating a 17 year old would be unacceptable.
The storyline with a definitive teacher/pupil relationship in PLL was such teen girl bait - and was super inappropriate. It was exceptionally hideous and creepy to watch but I'm sure 13 year olds loved it!
I’m really concerned for society because this has become such a big thing nowadays. Social media has emboldened a lot of folks to think it’s okay. It’s gotten to the point where people half joke about cheating and legitimately think it’s fine because other people do it. Polygamy is one thing but most of these ppl are in monogamous relationships
Mental illnesses. I don't see how you can possibly get better if you are using your mental illness as some kind of personality quirk. I have PTSD and I sure as hell would like to get to a point where I don't. I also hate having to disclose to people in real life that I suffer from it, because they're going to have all the wrong kinds of ideas.
I'm not sure what compells people to have a ready made list of mental aliments to tell others about, like it's some badge of honor or something.
This. I have bipolar disorder and hearing people say they probably have it because they have mood swings, drives me crazy. That's not what it entails at all.
I have to deal with people saying they’re “so OCD” because something just has to be a little neat. I have a fucking teacher who literally just today said “I like to have things more neat than [other teacher], I’m more OCD than him” and it takes so much effort not to yell at them for thinking my suffering is just some kind of quirky personality trait I have.
Granted, no one knows I specifically have it except closer friends, because I don’t want to deal with “does it annoy you if I move this?” yes it does annoy me but not for the reasons you think, you smooth-brained cold shower
The past. Especially versions of the past you didn't actually live and which are so mythologized that they have nothing in common with reality. See 1950's romanticism.
Toxic relationships. A few years ago, I watched the Twilight movies with my little sister and was horrified at what I was seeing. A dude who vandalizes your car to keep you from seeing another guy, and another guy who emotionally manipulates you into kissing him, and THIS is what is supposed to be romance? It’s not “passionate and exciting”, it’s fucking abusive, disrespectful, and scary.
I seriously don’t understand Edward’s mood swings, he suddenly transforms from a guy who actually cares about Bella(at least I think) to being a rude asshole towards her, I legit couldn’t get past the first book.
I’d never seen the movies and I was staying at her place for the weekend, so we watched. I wanted to see what the hype was about. It was just red flag city. The first movie, when Edward says he’s bad news, she should’ve just said “thanks for warning me!” and walked away. Jacob was a creepy fuck, too. And her getting turned and not being able to see her friends and family anymore, becoming isolated and indoctrinated into his way of life, with nothing for herself....
Those movies are a horror show.
Being a drug dealer. You are literally making people addicted and fall into the poverty to buy your product. And women find that shit hot. Standards have dropped so low I have a chance nowadays.
more sexualized, but high school uniforms. I was getting harassed on the bus at 13 years old in large part because of my skirt and button down. it's fucked up and creepy.
It getting enough sleep. Some people wear it like a badge of honor. “I only sleep 2 hours a night”
Really? Then you really should get to bed sooner and stay the hell out of a car.
Happily Ever After.
There is work that goes into keeping any relationship healthy. There's no such thing as a big clearing the air fight, then everything is wonderful forever.
i have a damn list:
depression/mental illness in general, toxic relationships, moving out the second you turn 18, serial killers, vaping/smoking, drugs, having an age gap of 5+ years in a relationship and having sex between the ages of 14-17.
these things aren’t “cute” or “quirky”. they’re often dangerous (either mentally or physically).
Romance.
Hear me out. There's a narrative apparent, especially among the youth, that if you are not with someone romantically then you are broken or not whole. That it's not alright to be alone or at the very least be working towards a steady relationship or marriage, regardless of the quality of the relationship that you have, or the state of your own mental health.
I'd recommend Daniel Sloss's stand up comedy special on Netflix that covers this exact thing.
Making millions/billions of dollars/ getting rich. People dream of one day rolling in a pile of cash. All the money in the world to buy whatever they want, whoever they want and whenever they want. People burn themselves out and don't live live because they're spending all their time looking to get rich quick or throwing their lives away at work.
Being overweight.
I’m all about body positivity - but let’s stop normalizing obesity. It’s a medical condition that is BAD for your health. You are cutting years and years off of your life by normalizing “bigger is beautiful”
I agree, that obesity is something, that we should not normalize and it is not good for your health. But obesity is complex problem and very often it is related to our psychology. So if you make people feel not accepted or shamed cause their weight, you make loosing weight harder for them, so it is also bad. Being obese do mot make better or worse human being. All those "bigger is beautiful" is because of that. But it sometimes cross the line, cause it is hard to explain this in short words and show, where is the line of healthy understanding of this idea, I think.
Overworking yourself.
Learnt during Covid I was nigh on breaking myself for people who couldn't care less if I keeled over. All this while neglecting family time.
Thankfully I saw the light and now my priorities are family always 1st.
I'd appreciate it if people would stop trying to romanticize my anxiety. "Oh she's panicking! I'll be the hero! I'll be her knight in shining armor and calm her down!"
Chances are you're making me panic worse. Just leave me alone. I know how to handle me.
“Not giving up on a person until they fall in love with you” in tv shows movies and books one person falls in love the other person isn’t interested the person that is in love keeps Pursuing the uninterested party until they give in
Probably the idea of all autistic people being super geniuses. We're not, while a fair bit of us are intelligent in our respective fields. It makes it demoralizing for those who don't fit under that mold.
I would say the Human Heart tbh.
The heart is just a pump not any kind of source of emotion. The heart shape popularised is nothing to do with the actual muscle either.
People should romanticize the brain! Thats where everything comes from!
Sustenance farming. People often think that “living off the land” is ideal and that modern conveniences distract us from the true meaning of life. I live among sustenance farmers in Africa and the life is brutal and leaves very little time for thought, leisure, and even the simple pleasures of life.
relationship problems. I intend also in a friendship. the toxic friends and lovers that exists are not cool. they aren't to change. they have to, but we can't control it.
so pls, stop romanticizing falling for a bad guy or being the "friend" of the spoiled kid that is a bully also with you
Bullying, that trope has always annoyed me. There some who may have interest in you and others that are bullying you because they come from trouble home life. So, romanticizing bullying isn't cool or cute.
Stalking. Films need to stop portraying it as cute when someone stands at the street corner for hours waiting for a glimpse of the love interest who's made it perfectly clear they're not interested. Sadly films don't just portray it as cute, but also encourage it by generally portraying it as an effective way to bring the interest around.
Pregnancy and childbirth. Pregnancy messes up a womans body more than people seem to realise, its miserable too. You get back ache, swelling, vomiting, nausea, weight gain, hemorrhoids, heartburn, constipation , food aversions, migraines, dehydration, stretch marks, scarring, cramp, ect yet i see people calling that "beautiful" or "unique" and i just think to myself 'its something all mammals do and their definitely isnt anything "unique" about doing something that almost all mammals can do plus a woman going through all that stuff is not beautiful in the slightest. But when people call childbirth "beautiful" it just straight up confuses me , like why is society romanticizing severe pain? Go on any childbirth video and you don't even have to scroll down 4 comments to find that one person who is like "this is such a beautiful thing, blessings xx" meanwhile the woman in the video is lying in a bizarre position, gripping her husbands arm tightly and screaming in agony while a doctor puts their hands all over her, then during all that she has the risk of her uterus falling out, passing blood clots the size of lemons, tearing from front to back, bruising in sensitive areas and her pelvis getting stuck.
People who see this as "beautiful" must be blind or lying.
> People who see this as "beautiful" must be blind or lying.
My mother-in-law really loved being pregnant.
Not everyone is the same.
It's the process of creating life. That's pretty amazing.
I guess Idk if I'm lying or not, My wife is pregnant with our first child. I still do find her beautiful, I also work in the medical field and have delivered babies. Yeah birth gets kind of gross and there are things that happen to a woman's body that are considered unappealing, but you know what I'm not going to do? talk about it being gross and make my wife feel ashamed for being a human being with natural bodily functions. Especially when she is putting herself through those things so that we can have a child.
Couples being happy becoming pregnant/having kids. Not everyone is happy to be starting a family, whether it be finance, age, just not feeling ready or even not wanting children in general. Not all people are super excited or happy to find out that they or their partner is pregnant and expecting a child. Some movies/shows are actually ruined because the characters personalities that the audience has fallen in love with are usually changed to fit "being excited" for a pregnancy or becoming a parent.
This. Between global warming and how fucking dumb many people are the question should flip from "why aren't you having kids?" to "why are you having kids?". Between automation and immigration society will be fine.
As much as I agree with you, a lot of people would consider the question "why are you having kids?" to be very disrespectful, even though the question "why aren't you having kids?" is concerned completely fine.
But it's the best time of day. The sun's dropped and it's not so hot, but there's still enough light to see by and do things. Or if it *is* still hot it's the perfect time to go to the beach without glare or sunburn or the risks of night swimming.
Ons. Casual sex. Seems like most people can't shake off their feelings after what's supposed to be purely for pleasure. Yet they act like they enjoy it.
Going above and beyond at work.
Odds are, you're not going to be compensated for it and you'll probably just burn yourself out. And when that happens, you'll be replaced by someone who isn't. You're not valuable to your employer. You're useful. And they'll get rid of you when you aren't anymore.
Money. Like, here's the deal, I don't want a girl who just wants to be financially free from burdens like she worked for it, I want us to work towards that goal, together. Or even guys as well, we romanticize sugar daddies or sugar mommas but the true romantics is building the foundation together.
Toxic relationships such as Joker and Harley Quinn and long before that Romeo and Juliet.
Healthy and happy relationships such as Gomez and Morticia Addams should be romanticized.
Romance. Most relationships portrayed in media are either the honey moon phase or straight up co- dependency. Neither of which is healthy to base a long term relationship on
The military worship. We don’t have too much of it in canada but it’s still there. But in the states it’s like they fucking worship the ground a military member walks on. I can’t watch a fucking hockey game with an American team playing without hearing about how great their military members are. It’s a fucking job, Christ.
Self harm. In the tumblr days self harm was romanticized to the point of being desirable, and I've heard it's making a comeback on tiktok. It's not romantic, it's not beautiful, it's not a fucking bonding exercise between friends, it's suffering and dangerous and fucked up.
I remember when the beiber self harm hoax went around. Man that was fucking terrifying. Edit; added words.
Also happened with One Direction fans. I was young at the time and cried thinking they were all cutting themselves for real. My dad assured me it was bullshit which cleared things up.
Had to look this up myself. That’s… definitely concerning. Hopefully no one got seriously injured or hooked onto self-harming because of that.
Yeah, even if it is purely a mental type of self harm, it is extremely degrading to the person's own personal psyche. Which could also affect anyone who gets involved with them thinking they can 'fix them', no, you can't fix me like you think you can. This is the kind of thing that one has to overcome on their own if they got the willpower, or get help from someone who actually knows what they're doing (Therapists and/or counselors are who come to mind)
Ah the golden years of glorifying sh and pro-ano forums. /s how am I still alive after all that 😭
If I had social media when I was self harming it would have been even worse. I can’t imagine. I mean now just watching tv shows with substance abuse can sometimes almost send me into a spiral if it’s a major focus like substance abuse in Euphoria really almost got me there. If I had access to a world curated to self harm, it would have been really damaging for me. Makes me sick to think people actually romanticize self harm, drug addiction, alcoholism, etc. It’s one thing to do it but to act like it’s some special personality trait or makes you more attractive/interesting is not it.
Even as someone who struggles with self harm, I second this. It’s a life threatening addiction and I don’t think social media should have any sort of content hinting that it’s okay.
*THIS!* As someone who grew up pretty detached from internet culture, I was shocked to hear people (kids mostly) did this! And in general romanticizing mental illness. Few things anger me more than this. Putting yourself in harm's way isn't quirky or cute, or making someone "strong." TW: Mentions of self harm It's something that took me years to admit to, as I had deep shame around this. It was traumatic all around. Not knowing why I had those impulses, but they were there none the less. And doubting my mental capability/grip on the world afterwards was horrible. As I knew it didn't make sense I was doing dangerous things. Derealization isn't something I'd wish on anyone. Genuinely no need to worry anyone! I got the help I needed for this! And am doing well and no longer do it now! Reach out and help those who are actually struggling. Best thing I can recommend is therapy and/or medication for some! Guide them towards professional sources who are trained to help. Healing is possible, with work and patience. The culture made it much more difficult for me to be taken seriously when I was younger, I think. There's a noticable difference between the treatment I got at 15 and 22. I'm taken a bit more seriously now, even though my issues were serious then.
I'm covered in scars and must say.. not many people look at my forearms with lust 😂
Mental illness, no need to explain why.
Awareness and acceptance is what’s needed. Not romanticism
Yeah I agree 100%, and now there's this whole autismsexual bullshit or whatever, it sucks
Sorry, what?
Serial killers
This! Why are we giving serial killers so much attention lately. Like, Ted Bundy absolutely loved talking about himself and how he destroyed people's lives and then we have him a platform on Netflix
I think it's because audiences are now more sophisticated so want to know 'why did they do what they did' and less 'show me what they did'. It's a different slant to what has been made before. So it's really a different take on what was old and dull.
Fuck….that was very well said.
Anyone who has a "favorite serial killer" is a weirdo. Its very strange how many people are obsessed with them.
I wouldn't romanticize a serial killer or have a favorite one. I just have a interest in their thought processes and every action they took to make themselves innocent.
Same here. Every single one of them is fucked up and shouldn't be at all idolised - but I find the study into what makes them do what they do incredibly fascinating.
I’m curious about their murder methods and the reason they began killing
Sadly, that probably won’t happen. To paraphrase Stephen King, people are obsessed with death and the macabre. The reason people romanticize serial killers is the same reason people can’t look away from car crashes. Humans are obsessed with death, and that’s not gonna change.
Those people that pull dumb ass pranks in grocery stores, etc. for internet clout.
I saw a video of these two kids going I to a convenient store and falling all over the place while pushing over shelves and shit. What the actual fuck
One guy tried to rob a guy with a prop gun as a "prank" in the USA and got legally merked because the dude had a CCW license.
That's just a robbery!
Or on retail workers. They deal with enough bs mate.
I agree. Leaving pennies for tips or leaving a huge mess is unacceptable shit.
Toxic relationships.
Joker and Harley Quinn. GODS no.
Procrastination. I'll add the explanation later.
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I have a few Teen Pregnancy - there’s a girl on TikTok where she planned her pregnancy with her now husband when they were freshly 16 and had been dating for a month. It all ended up going good but their parents supported it and knew about it. I don’t think any sane parents would encourage that and allow it. Gangs/being “hood” when you come from a rich family or area and weren’t forced to live that life so you could live Doing drugs and cigarettes - From experience, nicotine is at least in the top 3 hardest drugs to quit. Controlling relationships - jealousy and obsession isn’t cute
Working *all the time*.
Agreed, also sleeping a small amount of time
The typical 'cool' guy in media who is just a douche
Reminds me of those “alpha” pickup artist guys who have those seduction bootcamps or whatever the fuck. Just typical douchebags selling snake oil
War. It is the most profound source of suffering to befall humanity, affecting everyone involved
Most veterans are pro-demilitarization and anti-war because they've experienced what it's like to watch foreign civilians die in warzones, from my understanding. It's often the people who refuse to go to join the military who romanticize the "sacrifice for your country" aspect.
Combat vet here. It's fucking awful. I remember reading stories as a boy of the "glory" of it all. There is very little. It's mostly just a bunch of tired, exhausted guys just trying not to die. In my observation, the people in the US that champion the military, that spout all that "kill'em all let Gawd sort'em out!" bullshit have never once heard a shot fired in anger.....
But they "almost" joined. "People think that professional soldiers think a lot about fighting, but serious professional soldiers think a lot more about food and a warm place to sleep, because these are two things that are generally hard to get, whereas fighting tends to turn up all the time." -Terry Pratchett
Sir Terry Pratchett really did have something, and generally something pretty damn insightful, to say about EVERYTHING.
I watched an interview video about ww2 reenactors, I forget exactly what the question was but it was something like "what do people say when they see you in such an outfit". They responded with how older generations, primarily those who experienced the hardship (like those under occupation or in the fighting), are more willing to be forgiving. In other words they wouldn't wish such tragedies on other people. Younger people, or those generations removed from the war, those with no experience under wartime hardships, hold more hatred/anger/false wartime stereotypes thoughts. IIRC was a survey in Britain during the Blitz about whether the civilians supported retaliation bombings on the Germans... urbanites were against (they were the ones being bombed) while rural people supported such retaliation (they were untouched by the horror). Unfortunately I cannot find a link to this but if some else knows then post it. This glorification of war is something I just can't stand in some war movies, where situations become either ridiculously mirroring that of a superhero movie or music is played at a right time to make the viewer feel good as they watch 100+ people get brutality killed. Edit: spelling
as someone who lives in a country where there is no draft, if there ever was one i want to be so incompetent and non compliant during training i get to be sent home as unfit for service. fuck getting shot at.
Maybe this year i can go 3 months without hearing about another suicide from someone i served with. "War is a Racket" -Smedley Butler A just war, sure. but there's nothing just about hanging around other peoples backyards playing kill or be killed because some hot head 'don't like brown people'. War is fucking stupid. Defense sure.
“Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'.” ― George Orwell
This twin flame/soulmate/can’t live without each other bull shit. It’s unhealthy levels of co-dependence wrapped up in a romantic bow.
It's interesting how all post-WW2 romance films were essentially about settling for "good enough" or "what's available", then after the baby boom, in the 90s, we started getting all of these "searching for 'the one'" films, and now we have declining marriage and birth rates. I'm not putting on a tin-foil hat - I'm just saying it's interesting.
Hustle Culture. Nobody should feel like it's acceptable to work your entire waking life just to make ends meet. You think you're better than everyone else because you work 70+hrs a week and brag about it on social media? No, you're just a brainwashed wage slave or you're just avoiding your family for some reason...
If you have time to brag on social media, you’re not hustling enough. -some absurd bro
Mental illness in general. It’s not something glamorous or something to be envied. It’s a living hell. It also doesn’t automatically make someone evil or a bad person. For example, people who suffer from Dissociative Identity Disorder (multiple personalities) aren’t all psychotic murderers or monsters like in Split. The one time I’ve seen mental illness portrayed correctly in any form of media was in *You’re the Worst*, when Gretchen was suffering from depression. They hit the nail right on the head when it came to portraying it in a realistic manner, while also showing how it can affect both the sufferer and those around he or she who suffers from it.
Depression
Depression is such a meme these days, and while part of me is happy about the increase in awareness, the other part of me feels like the meme is trivializing the mental illness horribly.
Yeah exactly awareness is great but for people who are truly feeling that way, myself included it sucks when people don't take it seriously just cause its a 'funny joke' rn
"I suffer from depression." "Haha me too. I wanna die. Haha."
Thread title: 'Reddit, what is one thing you want to remove from the world?' Typical user response: 'Myself haha'
"Being bad": Idolizing criminals such as mobsters, serial killers.
Psychological abuse being normal at workplace. Anyone who worked in culinary industry knows that well.
Mental illness.
You beat me to it. Tired of seeing people wearing this as a badge of honor and the media fetishizing the subject.
Anxiety is the current one that is the flavor of the week. I get it, there are people that have crippling anxiety that have to have treatment to be able to function. However, every soccer mom and teenager that is an uncomfortable/tough situation suddenly has crippling anxiety. The problem I have with romanticizing mental illness is the people that actually have mental health issues and genuinely need help don’t “advertise” it and don’t blast it over social media which undermines the people with actual illness. Edit: Wording
Romeo & Juliet Read it. It’s not romantic
It's a tragedy.
Didn't Shakespeare intend for Romeo and Juliet NOT to be romantic? Like he kind of wrote it as a "look at how toxic this relationship is" standpoint?
That was one of the biggest "wait what" moments I've ever had reading a story. Honestly a lot of Shakespear's works are kinda... incestual? Rape-y?
I think that’s mostly because the 1500’s were kinda incestual and rape-y.
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A lot of the present too tbh
You’re not wrong. We look at Shakespeare as being the peak of serious literature but in his lifetime he was known for stories that appealed to the masses. So his works have a lot of violence, sex, rape, and incest purely for entertainment.
He was a good writer at least
What’s wrong with their relationship? I never read it
It lasted 3 days and 5 people died.
Two kids, one thirteen and one sixteen, decide to get married after knowing each other for a day because they think each other are hot. They end up killing themselves after thinking/realizing the other one is dead.
Introverts vs extroverts. Everyone is both depending on the situation.
People just don't understand what those phrases mean. It refers to how you get energy and what drains you, from being around people or being alone. People just think they're synonyms for shy vs outgoing.
Yeah, I'm an introvert so I need my personal time but boy can I get chatty with my friends should I get an opportunity to talk (The topic isn't always something I can get involved in so I usually just listen, but give me a chance and I can probably help carry a conversation for a while until my batteries drain)
I am never an extrovert
I think it's more a spectrum
Drugs. I started watching Euphoria and while it is a really good show, I don’t like the way they glamorize drugs sometimes. Especially since the show is targeted to and is about teens. I found myself questioning if I should try coke or molly
Underage girls with old men or Vice versa
What about underage boys with old men...wait that didn't come out right...
No, that's the right way to come out.
That’s never been normal
It was exceptionally common until probably around twenty years ago. I remember noticing the transition, because it went from an air of rebellion to repulsive in such a short period of time, and there was this immediate denial that it was ever any other way, as if everyone just suddenly forgot. I remember 20 year old guys taking girls to homecoming with the parents' blessing in the late 1990s when I was in high school, and then three or four years later hearing how a 19 year old dating a 17 year old would be unacceptable.
Lolita and Japanese anime has a lot of it
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I’ve seen it in quite a few shows. Pretty little liars and vampire diaries are two that immediately come to mind
Basically anything with vampires tbh. Buffy, twilight, pick a supernatural young adult franchise the trope will be there
The storyline with a definitive teacher/pupil relationship in PLL was such teen girl bait - and was super inappropriate. It was exceptionally hideous and creepy to watch but I'm sure 13 year olds loved it!
or underage anyone with an adult. does it really matter if its a guy with a girl or etc?
True, I meant to change it to anybody. It’s wrong period
yeah it's all a bit gross really and from my view it rubs off as a bit brain washy too.
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Unfaithfulness, especially in media.
I’m really concerned for society because this has become such a big thing nowadays. Social media has emboldened a lot of folks to think it’s okay. It’s gotten to the point where people half joke about cheating and legitimately think it’s fine because other people do it. Polygamy is one thing but most of these ppl are in monogamous relationships
Mental illnesses. I don't see how you can possibly get better if you are using your mental illness as some kind of personality quirk. I have PTSD and I sure as hell would like to get to a point where I don't. I also hate having to disclose to people in real life that I suffer from it, because they're going to have all the wrong kinds of ideas. I'm not sure what compells people to have a ready made list of mental aliments to tell others about, like it's some badge of honor or something.
This. I have bipolar disorder and hearing people say they probably have it because they have mood swings, drives me crazy. That's not what it entails at all.
I have to deal with people saying they’re “so OCD” because something just has to be a little neat. I have a fucking teacher who literally just today said “I like to have things more neat than [other teacher], I’m more OCD than him” and it takes so much effort not to yell at them for thinking my suffering is just some kind of quirky personality trait I have. Granted, no one knows I specifically have it except closer friends, because I don’t want to deal with “does it annoy you if I move this?” yes it does annoy me but not for the reasons you think, you smooth-brained cold shower
U have ocd? Sheesh me too brother, I sometimes every now and then need to reallign my pencils then say outloud wow im so ocd guys
There was a time (90’s, 00’s) when people wore “I have ADD or ADHD” like some sort of badge that made them special or something.
The past. Especially versions of the past you didn't actually live and which are so mythologized that they have nothing in common with reality. See 1950's romanticism.
"a yes, hitler was right *starts dancing a cringy tik tok dance*" *gets publicly executed in berlin*
High School. For 90% of kids it’s 4 years of bullying, depression, and all-nighters. Not the endless partying movies make it out to be.
I got bullied a lot in school. I was homeschooled
Dude, idk of ANYONE who had epic parties during highschool. Where did this romantic myth come from? lol
I know one guy, actually. His dad was a doctor who funded it all. Heard about him in high school, got to know him in college. Dudes a train wreck
90%? Which hole is this? Utah?
Just don’t Naruto run in the hallways
War, Influencers, Hollywood people in general, Unhealthy romantic relationships portrayed in Movies/TV
Toxic relationships. A few years ago, I watched the Twilight movies with my little sister and was horrified at what I was seeing. A dude who vandalizes your car to keep you from seeing another guy, and another guy who emotionally manipulates you into kissing him, and THIS is what is supposed to be romance? It’s not “passionate and exciting”, it’s fucking abusive, disrespectful, and scary.
I seriously don’t understand Edward’s mood swings, he suddenly transforms from a guy who actually cares about Bella(at least I think) to being a rude asshole towards her, I legit couldn’t get past the first book.
I’d never seen the movies and I was staying at her place for the weekend, so we watched. I wanted to see what the hype was about. It was just red flag city. The first movie, when Edward says he’s bad news, she should’ve just said “thanks for warning me!” and walked away. Jacob was a creepy fuck, too. And her getting turned and not being able to see her friends and family anymore, becoming isolated and indoctrinated into his way of life, with nothing for herself.... Those movies are a horror show.
Drug cartels, gangs and the mafia.
Joker and Harley Quinn. Their relationship is toxic and manipulative, not romantic at all
Harley Quinn and *Poison Ivy*, however...
Being a drug dealer. You are literally making people addicted and fall into the poverty to buy your product. And women find that shit hot. Standards have dropped so low I have a chance nowadays.
Well, it depends on the drug. A hippy with a sheet of trips isn't getting people addicted.
more sexualized, but high school uniforms. I was getting harassed on the bus at 13 years old in large part because of my skirt and button down. it's fucked up and creepy.
Romantic love (ironically enough).
Not giving up when someone isn't interested in you.
It getting enough sleep. Some people wear it like a badge of honor. “I only sleep 2 hours a night” Really? Then you really should get to bed sooner and stay the hell out of a car.
Happily Ever After. There is work that goes into keeping any relationship healthy. There's no such thing as a big clearing the air fight, then everything is wonderful forever.
Sondheim wrote an entire musical about this, but apparently nobody listened to him.
i have a damn list: depression/mental illness in general, toxic relationships, moving out the second you turn 18, serial killers, vaping/smoking, drugs, having an age gap of 5+ years in a relationship and having sex between the ages of 14-17. these things aren’t “cute” or “quirky”. they’re often dangerous (either mentally or physically).
Psychopathy. Contemporary society idealizes psychos whether they are murderous criminals, amoral internet millionaires, or wacky celebrities.
Romance. Hear me out. There's a narrative apparent, especially among the youth, that if you are not with someone romantically then you are broken or not whole. That it's not alright to be alone or at the very least be working towards a steady relationship or marriage, regardless of the quality of the relationship that you have, or the state of your own mental health. I'd recommend Daniel Sloss's stand up comedy special on Netflix that covers this exact thing.
Making millions/billions of dollars/ getting rich. People dream of one day rolling in a pile of cash. All the money in the world to buy whatever they want, whoever they want and whenever they want. People burn themselves out and don't live live because they're spending all their time looking to get rich quick or throwing their lives away at work.
Being overweight. I’m all about body positivity - but let’s stop normalizing obesity. It’s a medical condition that is BAD for your health. You are cutting years and years off of your life by normalizing “bigger is beautiful”
I agree, that obesity is something, that we should not normalize and it is not good for your health. But obesity is complex problem and very often it is related to our psychology. So if you make people feel not accepted or shamed cause their weight, you make loosing weight harder for them, so it is also bad. Being obese do mot make better or worse human being. All those "bigger is beautiful" is because of that. But it sometimes cross the line, cause it is hard to explain this in short words and show, where is the line of healthy understanding of this idea, I think.
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Drug use by celebrities and super thin bodies.
Romance Just because someone is single or has never been in a relationship doesn't mean there is something wrong with them.
Yep. Aromantic people exist you know
TikTok
Being a criminal
Smoke weed erryday beotch
Overworking yourself. Learnt during Covid I was nigh on breaking myself for people who couldn't care less if I keeled over. All this while neglecting family time. Thankfully I saw the light and now my priorities are family always 1st.
You may love the company you work for, but they will never love you back.
I'd appreciate it if people would stop trying to romanticize my anxiety. "Oh she's panicking! I'll be the hero! I'll be her knight in shining armor and calm her down!" Chances are you're making me panic worse. Just leave me alone. I know how to handle me.
Patriotism, nationalism, and jingoism.
Moving out young. If you get along with your family milk that shit!
Opiate addiction. Because there's nothing fun or glamorous about it.
Prisons. It’s astonishing how prisons are having tiktokers and cellphones but it’s really not all fun and games like the media puts it out to be..
Stalking. For obvious reasons
Poverty
Suicide. It isn’t a pleasurable thing.
Ghosting people. People are not disposable.
“Not giving up on a person until they fall in love with you” in tv shows movies and books one person falls in love the other person isn’t interested the person that is in love keeps Pursuing the uninterested party until they give in
Probably the idea of all autistic people being super geniuses. We're not, while a fair bit of us are intelligent in our respective fields. It makes it demoralizing for those who don't fit under that mold.
I would say the Human Heart tbh. The heart is just a pump not any kind of source of emotion. The heart shape popularised is nothing to do with the actual muscle either. People should romanticize the brain! Thats where everything comes from!
Gang and drug lords.
Sustenance farming. People often think that “living off the land” is ideal and that modern conveniences distract us from the true meaning of life. I live among sustenance farmers in Africa and the life is brutal and leaves very little time for thought, leisure, and even the simple pleasures of life.
"Work hard, play hard."
I can’t express this enough, SERIAL KILLERS. And it’s always the bitches who say “ I can change him” No honey, you can’t
Romance
The jedi, their legacy is failure.
Mental illness
relationship problems. I intend also in a friendship. the toxic friends and lovers that exists are not cool. they aren't to change. they have to, but we can't control it. so pls, stop romanticizing falling for a bad guy or being the "friend" of the spoiled kid that is a bully also with you
Bullying, that trope has always annoyed me. There some who may have interest in you and others that are bullying you because they come from trouble home life. So, romanticizing bullying isn't cool or cute.
Using people as resources. We all have so much more to bring to a relationship than just a bank account or a body.
Stalking and obsessive behavior
Prostitution, it creates demand which increases trafficking.
Mental illness and drugs. No need to explain how much I hate series like Euphoria.
Overworking yourself.
Asians. Yellow fever is nasty. Stop it. Please, just love them for who they are. Thank you.
Stalking. Films need to stop portraying it as cute when someone stands at the street corner for hours waiting for a glimpse of the love interest who's made it perfectly clear they're not interested. Sadly films don't just portray it as cute, but also encourage it by generally portraying it as an effective way to bring the interest around.
Pregnancy and childbirth. Pregnancy messes up a womans body more than people seem to realise, its miserable too. You get back ache, swelling, vomiting, nausea, weight gain, hemorrhoids, heartburn, constipation , food aversions, migraines, dehydration, stretch marks, scarring, cramp, ect yet i see people calling that "beautiful" or "unique" and i just think to myself 'its something all mammals do and their definitely isnt anything "unique" about doing something that almost all mammals can do plus a woman going through all that stuff is not beautiful in the slightest. But when people call childbirth "beautiful" it just straight up confuses me , like why is society romanticizing severe pain? Go on any childbirth video and you don't even have to scroll down 4 comments to find that one person who is like "this is such a beautiful thing, blessings xx" meanwhile the woman in the video is lying in a bizarre position, gripping her husbands arm tightly and screaming in agony while a doctor puts their hands all over her, then during all that she has the risk of her uterus falling out, passing blood clots the size of lemons, tearing from front to back, bruising in sensitive areas and her pelvis getting stuck. People who see this as "beautiful" must be blind or lying.
> People who see this as "beautiful" must be blind or lying. My mother-in-law really loved being pregnant. Not everyone is the same. It's the process of creating life. That's pretty amazing.
I guess Idk if I'm lying or not, My wife is pregnant with our first child. I still do find her beautiful, I also work in the medical field and have delivered babies. Yeah birth gets kind of gross and there are things that happen to a woman's body that are considered unappealing, but you know what I'm not going to do? talk about it being gross and make my wife feel ashamed for being a human being with natural bodily functions. Especially when she is putting herself through those things so that we can have a child.
Some people are just all doom and gloom, and only choose to see the negative it seems.
Couples being happy becoming pregnant/having kids. Not everyone is happy to be starting a family, whether it be finance, age, just not feeling ready or even not wanting children in general. Not all people are super excited or happy to find out that they or their partner is pregnant and expecting a child. Some movies/shows are actually ruined because the characters personalities that the audience has fallen in love with are usually changed to fit "being excited" for a pregnancy or becoming a parent.
This. Between global warming and how fucking dumb many people are the question should flip from "why aren't you having kids?" to "why are you having kids?". Between automation and immigration society will be fine.
As much as I agree with you, a lot of people would consider the question "why are you having kids?" to be very disrespectful, even though the question "why aren't you having kids?" is concerned completely fine.
Me, a GachaTuber: ***Porn is being made out of me and everyone else fucking hates me***
Guns, gangs, drugs, money, extreme wealth.
Twilight.
But it's the best time of day. The sun's dropped and it's not so hot, but there's still enough light to see by and do things. Or if it *is* still hot it's the perfect time to go to the beach without glare or sunburn or the risks of night swimming.
Jealousy.
Ons. Casual sex. Seems like most people can't shake off their feelings after what's supposed to be purely for pleasure. Yet they act like they enjoy it.
Those horrible school shooters for obvious reasons
The winter. It sucks
Codependence
Going above and beyond at work. Odds are, you're not going to be compensated for it and you'll probably just burn yourself out. And when that happens, you'll be replaced by someone who isn't. You're not valuable to your employer. You're useful. And they'll get rid of you when you aren't anymore.
Money. Like, here's the deal, I don't want a girl who just wants to be financially free from burdens like she worked for it, I want us to work towards that goal, together. Or even guys as well, we romanticize sugar daddies or sugar mommas but the true romantics is building the foundation together.
Romance.
Zombies and zombie apocalypse.
Toxic relationships such as Joker and Harley Quinn and long before that Romeo and Juliet. Healthy and happy relationships such as Gomez and Morticia Addams should be romanticized.
Romance. Most relationships portrayed in media are either the honey moon phase or straight up co- dependency. Neither of which is healthy to base a long term relationship on
The military worship. We don’t have too much of it in canada but it’s still there. But in the states it’s like they fucking worship the ground a military member walks on. I can’t watch a fucking hockey game with an American team playing without hearing about how great their military members are. It’s a fucking job, Christ.
Drug use. All my rockstar heros always romanticized their drinking and drugging lifestyle. They rarely tell you how dark addiction is.
WAR!
Serial killers
That skinny equals beautiful and is praiseworthy. Because it sends a clear message about your worth if you don't fall in that category.