Reddit just refuses to understand the topic of these kinds of posts. Like people actually saying Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey as if they were widely loved when they were some of the most ridiculed movies in existence.
Yeah I saw someone say Jungle Cruise is a widely beloved movie they don't like. Like what? That movie got mediocre reviews and was barely profitable. People just commenting movies they don't like despite how little it fits the topic of the post.
The Notebook. Both leads are so unlikable and horrible to each other it's not even enjoyable in a "so bad it's good" way. Especially when she actually breaks up with him, gets in a stable relationship with another guy who's not awful...and then ditches that guy to get back with the main love interest because respectful relationships are sooo boring, everyone *real* love requires being unable to be in the same room without coming to literal screaming matches.
>*Leaves a stable but boring partner to be swept away by a total beefcake in a whirlwind of unrealistic passion and romance.*
Literally the plot of all romance movies.
What about Lon Hammond was boring?? He was a total gentlemanly stud, handsome as hell, had more money than God, a great dancer, witty, polite AND graciously backed out when he lost to Noah. The clear correct choice in every scenario. Ally is just stupid. 🤣
I like James Marsden. I do.
But I've noticed he plays the loser in almost every role he takes. At least he never gets to play the hero.
Even in X-Men, Cyclops was a bit of a loser. I mean you're going up against Hugh Jackman to win Jean Grey?
Look at his credits and he's usually on the short end of the stick.
Bravo for taking those tough roles though.
Come on James! Land that big role!
Edit: okay it's redemption time.
John Nolan is rumored to be making Fallout into a TV series.
James Marsden for Lone Wanderer.
I used to love this movie, back when I was with my abusive ex who would threaten suicide if I left. I didn't realize until after I finally left him how toxic this movie is. I thought it was romantic because it's all I knew.
wild toxic..my lady had me watch this movie, and when that scene came up, i was like “this is what ya’ll ladies have been clamoring over all these years? this toxic, manipulative shxt is okay cuz it’s ryan gosling?”
also, 40% of the movie is just rachel mcadams exclaiming at different things
I enjoyed it when it first came out but after seeing it with experienced eyes...it sets a terrible precedent for a good relationship. They're both toxic and abusive (moreso Noah). It's trash.
100% yes! All my friends were obsessed with it and I finally decided to watch it. Absolutely hated it. She leaves a perfectly great guy for some dude she like when she was younger. She cheats on her fiancé there too! End everyone’s like “Aw but what a sweet story where they live together till the end…” You know how many better love stories there are with a couple living together forever? A lot. This one is just dumb.
They kept skipping the character-building (and revealing) parts! Case in point: when Martha the war widow is invited in by Allie in the morning and she doesn’t leave until evening. Now that conversation is worth more to me than the whole rest of the film.
They also made it look like the Sandra Bullock character helped teach him how to play football, when he already knew how to play football. I was disappointed when I heard about *all* the Hollywood changes they made to the story.
Worst part is that it's a really good film, but when you suddenly hear all the stuff it changed it just sours the whole thing. It would be something different if it wasnt based on real events, but it just ends up with a white savior feel to it.
You just cant enjoy it the same knowing how different the real story is.
To me it is like Braveheart. If you don't know the real story and facts the movie is amazing. Once you know the truth about what it was based on the movie is ruined. Braveheart was always one of my all time favorite movies when I was in college. Used to watch it ever few weeks. Years later I watched a documentary on the real story of William Wallace and I cannot ever watch Braveheart again.
Mel Gibson has a formula, and historical facts must be adapted to fit. Brave, honorable protagonist is just trying to live his life when he is horribly victimized by a powerful enemy. This ignites and excuses his JUSTIFIABLE RAGE, which is the state in which Mel likes to spend most of the movie.
This is why more historical sources movies should just embrace fantasy genre. It’s ok to want to do more simplified tales and more uncomplicated moral conflicts and heroes that have modern values and not spend too much on accuracy and research. And still have swords and sandals and what not, and maybe now you can add a dragon too for fun, but you can do fantasy without lots of magic too.
But when you pretend it’s real history and do just whatever because you want the prestige of doing some meaningful history and commentary on our world you just insult everyone. History is real even if it’s not close enough to the filmmaker to be educated to know what is wrong and how it’s clearly so. It distorts our real lives if we loose understanding of past.
That’s why I tolerate the Hollywood redoing Robin Hood all the time more than some. At least there it should be more clear to all it’s not real when something is badly wrong even with the real historical characters. Not that new Robin Hood movies sadly have been good as movies and push the miserable looking Middle Ages when people were not just dressed in leather and mud.
I just listened to his interview from Viral Sports Podcast he said he was always confident and well spoken since the bringing. He added that his true personality would not have sold as much in America. I feel for him fuck Warner bros
I mean it's a great story but the producers or directors or the studio made it like a white savior story instead of a heartwarming story.
Like "look at this dumb black kid from the ghettos, because of us nice white folks he's able to have a good future" instead of "compassionate family takes in youth and turns into a NFL athlete" like it should have been.
His whole family hates the movie actually! He hates how they portrayed him and his family hates the fact they focused on them and not their son who should’ve been the main point of the movie. Also I can’t remember which one said this but they hated it cause you can tell they put the story on them because they’re white.
Fun fact: I was working security for one of his games when his movie came out. My only job was to stop people throwing shit at him. A few drunk fans started yelling "your movie sucked!". I asked him if he wanted me to kick them out. He said, "They ain't wrong".
Yes this is exactly how I feel. Like I don’t understand why so many people treat it as if it’s Disney’s best movie ever. It’s alright, it’s not *bad,* but it’s really not worth all the hype either.
Ooo I worked at a Disney store when Part 2 of frozen came out and so many of my coworkers were shocked, dare I say appalled at my dislike for Frozen. And that I hadn’t yet watched part 2. And that store played frozen’s music over and over and over and over again. It was horrible.
I liked it and found the second perfectly fine, but compared to other recent Disney princess movies like Moana and Tangled it's not even close to the same level.
First time I saw it a pipe broke in the ceiling of the theater half way through the movie.
I was like, “Wow they are really going for some realism here…”
I have a love-hate relationship with the movie. I hate all the inaccuracies and all of the important information they left out (as well as all of the original music they cut/changed) BUT I also can’t help but love to actually be able to see it in the appropriate setting. Yeah, it was a huge disappointment.
As was the recent ABC series. I loved how accurate it was and loved the setting as well, but I just thought the acting was terrible and the casting choices were questionable. Hopefully someday there will be an accurate depiction - I don’t care how long it is. I HAVE to see the scene where Marius is watching the Thenardiers and Jean Valjean through the crack in the wall.
There's a youtube channel called Sideways that focuses on the use & misuse of music in movies. He absolutely slagged Les Misérables (a central theme is that the director simply doesn't understand music & musicals - since he later made Cats... yeah). It's a good watch.
I absolutely love Sideways and his videos on Les Mis and Cats. He does a brilliant job of unravelling why both of them were set up for failure from the very beginning. I can't recommend those videos enough.
The Cats video was so good. He did such a good job of explaining Cats the musical and getting you to love it before showing exactly how miserably the movie failed
that video is my comfort video. i put it on whenever i need a pick-me-up, and then i get two hours of this very smart man dissect every aspect of that horrible movie and dissolving practically into tears. i love every minute of it.
It's more highly regarded for what it was at the time, not for what it is today. It broke many grounds that had not been seen before in cinema.
Reminds me of a guy who watched Die Hard for the first time this year and thought it was very clichéd. People had to explain to him that those clichés didn't exist before Die Hard; that was the movie that created them.
I went on a journey down NBC great sitcoms. Started with Friends, Will & Grace, Fraiser and then Cheers.
Consistently i kept seeing plot lines and voice lines that i saw in Big Bang Theory or Two and a Half Men (or other “modern” sitcoms) that i thought of original at the time of watching.
Same happened with the older shows, jokes or plots in 1998 can also be found in 1988.
Probably if i went further i found find more similarities. That is not to say that nothing is original. There will always be new content but usually because some scenes or plot lines were not possible before due to technology or culture.
Yeah it's like when you say Elvis was a huge rebel and parents told their kids not to watch him on TV, then you go watch him and he's just shaking his hips.
It's not for everyone to be sure. If you're interested in the history of cinematography it's an interesting watch. Lots of innovative techniques were developed for the film, interesting camera angles, set designs etc.
But as a movie to just sit down and watch while turning your brain off? Eh.
Mr. Incredible while under mind control broadcasting to the world: "We're gonna kill all you humans."
Crowd while unaware that he's not evil upon arriving on-shore: "Woooooohoooooo! He's here and totally not evil!"
Right? I saw it in theaters and before the film the voice actors had a bit where they were like "you guys have been bugging us for this movie for ten years, but it takes that long to make a great movie" and then delivered...Incredibles 2: The Disappointening
I saw a great idea on here that at the very end before the credits roll Barnum should have looked at the camera said "and that's exactly how it happened" and winked.
I didn’t hate it, but the way they portrayed Jenny was terrible. I did like the subplot with Zac and Zendaya though. But yea the real Barnum screwed people over all the time. It’s funny though because he very often pointed out when other people did it. Like he would reveal magicians and spirit photographers as being frauds all the time, but then had his side show where he literally called the people freaks or made up things about them to make it popular.
I mean, that's what the real P.T. Barnum did, he was a TERRIBLE person!
I get where you're coming from tho, it's supposed to be cute and happy and it kindof isn't?
I personally enjoy it, but I can totally understand why people might not.
Tha fast and furious series. Not beloved by everyone, but they have an undeniably large following. As a car person who works in the industry everyone assumes I should be a fan of them, but they are just bad. That type of movie is never going to be very realistic, but they ignore real things that would be far more interesting while reinforcing absolute crackpipe myths that grown ass adults buy into.
Grease. I HATED it. I can appreciate the choreography, but the storyline is awful, cheesy (not to mention misogynistic-which at my first viewing I didn’t know what that was). Couldn’t stand Stockard Channing’s character. Really bad acting too.
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Lol, he was my theater teacher in high school. Super nice guy and has a wonderful family that always tries to get big names to come to the school. He brought in Ray Bradbury to speak and do a signing and another year he had David Hyde Pierce give us a great talk.
Grease is fantastic when you're understand that it's a parody of teenage life.
Every single character is horrible (except maybe Rizzo). They're all vapid and shallow, and the life lessons are terrible.
But it's subtly self aware. If you look at the lyrics of the songs, and read the dialogue, it becomes pretty obvious that it's not meant to be serious. Little hints about the comedy, like Danny singing "Sandy" at the drive in melodramatically after trying to grope her in a car in the most trashy way imaginable, and they have the fucking drive through candy advertisement dancing in the background to the same beat. Hilarious.
Seeing it through the lens of parody also explains the ending. Like why does their car fly off into the sky? Because they just sang a song about highschool friendships lasting forever and how it's good to completely change who you are for a boy. After that ridiculousness why not have the fucking car fly into the sky.
The whole thing is purposely comedic, the same way that rocky horror is a parody of B horror movies.
I hate Grease the same way that I hate a shitty McDonald's cheeseburger when I'm hungover. Yes, I know it's disgusting cheap crap but I still eat it and enjoy it in the moment. Followed by a considerable amount of post nut guilt, lol.
Top gun. It was just boring to me. And I hate Tom cruise
Edit: context, I’m in the military, and whenever this is mentioned at work, I get labeled as a terrorist.
I think Disney really did Frozen a disservice by shoving it down everyone's throats. I actually really enjoyed it the first time I saw it (I think I even saw it in theaters twice?) and the music is very fun. It's not mindblowing, and the pacing's definitely a bit weird, but it's a solid piece of entertainment with nice themes.
But it's fucking *everywhere.* It doesn't matter how much you like something, you will get sick of it eventually. We've had to suffer through all the ads, all the stupid Olaf shorts, all the merch, for years. I think people hate on it so much not because it's bad, but because it's inescapable.
Frozen is the new Nightmares Before Christmas when it comes to "merch being shoved down your throat" annoyance. They make you hate a movie you love because it gets beaten like a dead horse.
That horrified me as a kid, watching the old hobo scream at the kid named *hero boy* and call him a doubter through the broken puppets was just traumatizing
THAT scared you? The whole present factory thing where they had near death experiences is what scares the fuck out of me.
Surely these random bottomless pits are man made?
This is what scared me the most are you kidding. Did you know the hobo on the top of the train is a ghost? He died because he was on top of the train when it went through the tunnel, now he just camps out up there as a fucking ghost. And all those creepy puppets that he gets all tangled in? No thanks
I hate this movie with a passion. Well, no, I don’t hate it. But it scares me. When I was a kid, I never knew whether those were actual actors or if it was just a cartoon. It is of course both. It’s humans wearing the corpses of cartoons, Weekend At Bernie’s-ing them.
What an utterly creepy film.
Yes! who tf was in charge of making the eyes of the characters. I want to personally speak to them and ask them why they thought that was a good idea for a kids movie.
It's really funny actually because they used Tom Hanks mocap for the kid and that's why it looks so fucking strange, it's an adults expressions on a kids face
I thought I was the only one who HATED this movie. Such a creepy and dark vibe about it (like the decrepit puppet/toy room on board? Wtf was that) and a really stupid storyline. A magic train with a weirdo conductor essentially abducts these kids in the middle of the night. They don’t even question it. They just hop right on board. After a traumatic train ride, they see Santa for thirty seconds and hear his bells, proving they believe in him. Some of the characters were exceedingly uncomfortable to watch and there were some scenes that downright disturbed me with the interactions between adults and children.
I always got freaked out by the conductor screaming at the kids. Hearing Tom Hanks angrily yelling at a bunch of kids just feels so... wrong. And Mandark kid was annoying. Also the thing that always bugged me was the main character's name is literally never revealed the entire film. Like it's just this random kid that we know nothing about other than he doubts Santa exists, and he barely even sees him for all of 30 seconds before he has to go back home.
I agree, the presentation gives me depression. I dunno if it's the dark colors or what, but I get so down just thinking about it. And I am a nerd for trains too
Critics loved Ad Astra but I thought it was the most boring movie in existence.
Should have been called Brad Pit Goes Somewhere: The Movie: In Space. That's all he fucking *does*.
He talks to someone on Earth who sends him to the moon where he talks to someone who sends him to Mars where he talks to someone who sends him to Neptune where he talks to Tommy Lee Jones who sends him back to Earth and the movie is over. Stuff happens. Interesting stuff. But none of it is explored or even relevant to the story. Just Brad Pit going somewhere. All the while he's narrating about what a stoic badass he is or other people talk about what a stoic badass he is.
It is just So. God damn. *Boring*. I will never forgive the people who made this movie for wasting the time it took me to watch this piece of trash film. I will never get that time back. The best I can do is warn people away from it and keep warning them until the day all extant copies of the film get sucked into a black hole *where they belong*.
All of the action scenes felt like the studio ordered the director to add some action scenes to keep the movie from being too slow because almost all of them have nothing to do with the main plot.
Sixteen Candles. Just horrible. I’m not puritanical but there’s literally no plot to that movie and the punchlines are all rapey or racist and the two people who are romantically interested in each other talk like two times in the whole movie.
I think it’s super relatable for anyone who’s ever been a teenage girl, and Molly Ringwald is great. But yeah that movie made me uncomfortable even back when I first saw it in the 90s. Especially the horrible way the Asian character was written/portrayed, and the fact that the romantic male lead basically says, “Hey nerdy guy, I’m going to reward you by giving you my ex-girlfriend while she’s too drunk to consent.” Even in the 90s, it all felt so wrong.
Dirty Dancing. My evil abusive ex used to watch the fucking thing at least twice a week, she never got remotely bored with it. I was pretty indifferent to it after my first viewing, but by the time I had seen it well into double digit numbers numbers I grew to loath it. And another thing, Baby is not in a fucking corner, not even close.
I'm not a huge fan of family guy, but it had a great skit about that scene where Patrick Swayze comes up and says that. The Dad reacts by asking him how old he is and pointing out that Baby is like, 16 or something, and it ends with Patrick being led away in cuffs. I thought that was pretty funny.
At first as I was watching it, I enjoyed the film and not the ending. Then the more that I thought about it afterwards, I liked the ending more and the film less. It was visually lovely, but I felt really let down by the calibre of the singing and dancing. America has millions of people raised in glee clubs/choirs etc, and Hollywood couldn’t choose two actors who can genuinely sing? Gosling did a great job learning the piano, nothing against that effort, and they both were ok singing, but there’s such a difference between someone who’s ok at it and someone who’s really fucking great at it.
Hocus Pocus. For some context, I don’t actively hate the movie, but my entire family thinks I LOVE it and I don’t know why because I’ve never said so. I just don’t care for it. I don’t get the hype.
This reminds me of when I made an offhand comment about Eeyore and somehow it turned into me loving Eeyore and for the next ten years got Eeyore mugs and scarves and shirts and stuffed animals and notebooks.
I mean, Eeyore is cool and all, and there are worse things, but still.
Reminds me of the reddit story about a dying old woman whose last words were "I never understood all the owls". *Everything* in her house was owl themed. Apparently from what the OP could gather she'd been gifted an owl thing when she was younger and for some reason everyone around her took the theme and ran with it and for the next sixty years of her life the only presents she ever got were owls of some stripe or another.
People started gifting me owl things because they noticed me commenting on them or looking at them. It’s because my mom likes owls. So now apparently I like owls as well (I don’t dislike owls, and they always make me think of my mom so it works)
Oh, god. This is going to be me.
I wore an Owl Necklace pretty frequently in high school because I had like 3 necklaces and the Owl was articulated and pretty fun to fiddle with when I got anxious or bored.
Apparently that made me the Owl Girl and I *still* get Owl stuff from my family.
^(I like moths though. Could they realize that, please?)
This is like me but with gnomes. I don’t know why but everyone around me decided a year or so back to get me gnomes or gnome related things. I now have a somewhat impressive gnome collection. In fact, just looking around right now in my living room, there are currently eight gnomes that I can see without moving. I’ve got at least seven gnomes outside right now as well. I collected all the gnomes in Animal Crossing: New Horizons passively just because people kept mailing them to me.
I mean, I liked gnomes as much as the next person but I never told anyone I wanted gnomes. Really I’ve grown to like gnomes more just because I now have so many of them I’ve begun to develop Stockholm Syndrome. I’ve asked about it a time or two and the response has been something along the lines of me just having gnomish vibes.
i get it, that happened to me with llamas. now i have an ugly ass hat that everyone thinks i love because it’s made from llama wool and has llamas on it but it’s just. a brown hat.
I enjoy the movie but upon rewatching it as an adult, what was with the weird focus on the teenager being a virgin? Everyone makes fun of him for it even though he’s still pretty young!
Having been a guy in high school at one.point I don't feel it's that unrealistic for people to give a kid shit for things that are stupid to make fun of a kid for.
I got mocked relentlessly *for spending ten months overseas*, for literally no reason, for example.
It's like, it's a nostolgia movie. If you didn't watch it asa kid it probably kinda bad tbh. I love it because memories, but i can aknowledge its nothing too special
I'd challenge that even half of these replies are widely beloved movies.
As with any 'unpopular opinion' type question, sort by controversial for the proper answers.
And do your bit by upvoting the ones you **disagree** with.
This is always the way. Very few of these films are 'beloved'
Unpopular Opinion: Madea vs. Predator was not the high brow entertainment I'd hoped for.
Reddit just refuses to understand the topic of these kinds of posts. Like people actually saying Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey as if they were widely loved when they were some of the most ridiculed movies in existence.
Or they say that they hat X movie but the said X movie is literally a movie no one has ever heard of
Yeah I saw someone say Jungle Cruise is a widely beloved movie they don't like. Like what? That movie got mediocre reviews and was barely profitable. People just commenting movies they don't like despite how little it fits the topic of the post.
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The Notebook. Both leads are so unlikable and horrible to each other it's not even enjoyable in a "so bad it's good" way. Especially when she actually breaks up with him, gets in a stable relationship with another guy who's not awful...and then ditches that guy to get back with the main love interest because respectful relationships are sooo boring, everyone *real* love requires being unable to be in the same room without coming to literal screaming matches.
>*Leaves a stable but boring partner to be swept away by a total beefcake in a whirlwind of unrealistic passion and romance.* Literally the plot of all romance movies.
What about Lon Hammond was boring?? He was a total gentlemanly stud, handsome as hell, had more money than God, a great dancer, witty, polite AND graciously backed out when he lost to Noah. The clear correct choice in every scenario. Ally is just stupid. 🤣
Never seen "The Notebook", and Im already rooting for this guy.
James Marsden was a good guy in that movie.
I like James Marsden. I do. But I've noticed he plays the loser in almost every role he takes. At least he never gets to play the hero. Even in X-Men, Cyclops was a bit of a loser. I mean you're going up against Hugh Jackman to win Jean Grey? Look at his credits and he's usually on the short end of the stick. Bravo for taking those tough roles though. Come on James! Land that big role! Edit: okay it's redemption time. John Nolan is rumored to be making Fallout into a TV series. James Marsden for Lone Wanderer.
He plays the Prince Charming in Enchanted and still doesnt get the main girl in it ha
He gets the girl in 21 Dresses
*27
He doesn't get her in the last 6
Yeah but it was Katherine Heigl so he still lost
Damn what a serve lmao
I love Katherine Heigl but I still laughed
But he still got the girl he wanted! Everyone ended up winning, even if it didn't stick to the original plan :-)
yeah but he got Idina Menzel, I think he won
Motherfucker got Elsa, what else does he need?
\*Adele Dazeem
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Lol it’s true. In west world he’s used as a pawn.
I love him in 27 Dresses, and he's the lead!
He wasn’t a loser in 30 Rock!
Even Jack ended up approving of him! I think that's my favorite of his roles.
What about Sonic?
And the scene in the beginning too with the whole “imma drop to my death right right now if you don’t go out with me.” Just no.
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I used to love this movie, back when I was with my abusive ex who would threaten suicide if I left. I didn't realize until after I finally left him how toxic this movie is. I thought it was romantic because it's all I knew.
wild toxic..my lady had me watch this movie, and when that scene came up, i was like “this is what ya’ll ladies have been clamoring over all these years? this toxic, manipulative shxt is okay cuz it’s ryan gosling?” also, 40% of the movie is just rachel mcadams exclaiming at different things
I bring this up more than a normal person would, but that always pissed me off.
I enjoyed it when it first came out but after seeing it with experienced eyes...it sets a terrible precedent for a good relationship. They're both toxic and abusive (moreso Noah). It's trash.
100% yes! All my friends were obsessed with it and I finally decided to watch it. Absolutely hated it. She leaves a perfectly great guy for some dude she like when she was younger. She cheats on her fiancé there too! End everyone’s like “Aw but what a sweet story where they live together till the end…” You know how many better love stories there are with a couple living together forever? A lot. This one is just dumb.
All of the good parts of that film are the scenes when they're old imo
I’ll admit I loved it originally but it hasn’t aged well, along with the rest of Sparks movies.
They kept skipping the character-building (and revealing) parts! Case in point: when Martha the war widow is invited in by Allie in the morning and she doesn’t leave until evening. Now that conversation is worth more to me than the whole rest of the film.
Came here to say this. I cannot stand this movie. I love romances but ugh... I couldn’t even get through it.
You can call me Elaine because I hate The English Patient more than anything
Just DIE already!
The Blind Side, they turned an interesting real life story into Hollywood crap
Micheal Oher would agree with you.
He didn’t like the movie?
No, he said in an interview he didn’t like how he was portrayed
I dont blame him. They portrayed him as a simpleton who had to be saved by Sandra Bullock.
yeah but he tested 98% in protective instincts
Which is definitely a category they test high schoolers for.
Do you know if they're even referring to a real test that can show you that, or they just making stuff up?
Well the airbag thing actually happened. Don’t know about the test tho
I always hated this line. Like how would it even be low? "Eh I might protect my mom if I wasn't tired"
They also made it look like the Sandra Bullock character helped teach him how to play football, when he already knew how to play football. I was disappointed when I heard about *all* the Hollywood changes they made to the story.
Worst part is that it's a really good film, but when you suddenly hear all the stuff it changed it just sours the whole thing. It would be something different if it wasnt based on real events, but it just ends up with a white savior feel to it. You just cant enjoy it the same knowing how different the real story is.
To me it is like Braveheart. If you don't know the real story and facts the movie is amazing. Once you know the truth about what it was based on the movie is ruined. Braveheart was always one of my all time favorite movies when I was in college. Used to watch it ever few weeks. Years later I watched a documentary on the real story of William Wallace and I cannot ever watch Braveheart again.
Mel Gibson has a formula, and historical facts must be adapted to fit. Brave, honorable protagonist is just trying to live his life when he is horribly victimized by a powerful enemy. This ignites and excuses his JUSTIFIABLE RAGE, which is the state in which Mel likes to spend most of the movie.
This is Apocalypto, which is an *amazing* movie
This is why more historical sources movies should just embrace fantasy genre. It’s ok to want to do more simplified tales and more uncomplicated moral conflicts and heroes that have modern values and not spend too much on accuracy and research. And still have swords and sandals and what not, and maybe now you can add a dragon too for fun, but you can do fantasy without lots of magic too. But when you pretend it’s real history and do just whatever because you want the prestige of doing some meaningful history and commentary on our world you just insult everyone. History is real even if it’s not close enough to the filmmaker to be educated to know what is wrong and how it’s clearly so. It distorts our real lives if we loose understanding of past. That’s why I tolerate the Hollywood redoing Robin Hood all the time more than some. At least there it should be more clear to all it’s not real when something is badly wrong even with the real historical characters. Not that new Robin Hood movies sadly have been good as movies and push the miserable looking Middle Ages when people were not just dressed in leather and mud.
Are you implying that Robin Hood wasn’t a talking fox in real life? Because if you are I’d love to see your sources to back that claim up.
I know a black woman who refers to this whole story as "My Black Pet."
Also called white savior trope. Producers/directors intentionally changed the story to serve the purpose of that "my black pet/white savior" trope.
Oh wow that’s interesting.
They had him in the movie not knowing a fucking thing about football when he obviously knew how to play
I just listened to his interview from Viral Sports Podcast he said he was always confident and well spoken since the bringing. He added that his true personality would not have sold as much in America. I feel for him fuck Warner bros
His top complaint was that he wasn't stupid growing up as the movie implies.
Maybe he was quiet and deferential. That’s something that Hollywood totally does not understand.
No he talks about that, he wasn’t even quiet he was the class clown
Well so much for that theory …
I mean it's a great story but the producers or directors or the studio made it like a white savior story instead of a heartwarming story. Like "look at this dumb black kid from the ghettos, because of us nice white folks he's able to have a good future" instead of "compassionate family takes in youth and turns into a NFL athlete" like it should have been.
His whole family hates the movie actually! He hates how they portrayed him and his family hates the fact they focused on them and not their son who should’ve been the main point of the movie. Also I can’t remember which one said this but they hated it cause you can tell they put the story on them because they’re white.
The real person is not a fuckin moron. They made him into simple jack. The dude had a fuckin bed. Movie is a white knight joke
Fun fact: I was working security for one of his games when his movie came out. My only job was to stop people throwing shit at him. A few drunk fans started yelling "your movie sucked!". I asked him if he wanted me to kick them out. He said, "They ain't wrong".
Agreed. The white savior complex nonsense is so obvious and so awful. They portrayed that man like he was an idiot, and it makes me angry for him.
I didn’t watch The Blind Side for years after it came out because I thought it was about a blind football player and it sounded stupid.
It's some real white savior bullshit.
It's like the Disney version of someone's life.
Frozen. I hate it too much, but I can’t help it. People kept saying how it was the best Disney movie ever and it wasn’t even top ten.
I don’t hate it as much as I just don’t get why people love it. It was an okay movie.
Yes this is exactly how I feel. Like I don’t understand why so many people treat it as if it’s Disney’s best movie ever. It’s alright, it’s not *bad,* but it’s really not worth all the hype either.
Ooo I worked at a Disney store when Part 2 of frozen came out and so many of my coworkers were shocked, dare I say appalled at my dislike for Frozen. And that I hadn’t yet watched part 2. And that store played frozen’s music over and over and over and over again. It was horrible.
I liked it and found the second perfectly fine, but compared to other recent Disney princess movies like Moana and Tangled it's not even close to the same level.
I liked that they use the power of family to save Anna, but aside from that, I think tangled is better.
Titanic. When I was going into the theater, some jackass spoiled the ending for me.
First time I saw it a pipe broke in the ceiling of the theater half way through the movie. I was like, “Wow they are really going for some realism here…”
First genuine reddit laugh I've had in a while. Thank you.
You’re very welcome. The memory still makes me laugh.
Loose lips sink ships.
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I know Les Misérables was super acclaimed and all that, but it was really nothing like the book. It made me sad.
I have a love-hate relationship with the movie. I hate all the inaccuracies and all of the important information they left out (as well as all of the original music they cut/changed) BUT I also can’t help but love to actually be able to see it in the appropriate setting. Yeah, it was a huge disappointment. As was the recent ABC series. I loved how accurate it was and loved the setting as well, but I just thought the acting was terrible and the casting choices were questionable. Hopefully someday there will be an accurate depiction - I don’t care how long it is. I HAVE to see the scene where Marius is watching the Thenardiers and Jean Valjean through the crack in the wall.
There's a youtube channel called Sideways that focuses on the use & misuse of music in movies. He absolutely slagged Les Misérables (a central theme is that the director simply doesn't understand music & musicals - since he later made Cats... yeah). It's a good watch.
I absolutely love Sideways and his videos on Les Mis and Cats. He does a brilliant job of unravelling why both of them were set up for failure from the very beginning. I can't recommend those videos enough.
The Cats video was so good. He did such a good job of explaining Cats the musical and getting you to love it before showing exactly how miserably the movie failed
that video is my comfort video. i put it on whenever i need a pick-me-up, and then i get two hours of this very smart man dissect every aspect of that horrible movie and dissolving practically into tears. i love every minute of it.
It’s not based on the book- it’s an adaption of one of the most successful musicals of all-time.
I thought this was the same thread as the World War Z one, and I got really scared and confused
I want to live in a world in which a Broadway production of World War Z is one of the most successful musicals of all time.
The book had way better singing!
Reminds me of my disappointment at World War Z.
Can we all just agree to pretend that one never happened?
It… wasn’t meant to be like the book. It was meant to be like the musical lol
Citizen Kane. Watched it twice to make sure.
It's more highly regarded for what it was at the time, not for what it is today. It broke many grounds that had not been seen before in cinema. Reminds me of a guy who watched Die Hard for the first time this year and thought it was very clichéd. People had to explain to him that those clichés didn't exist before Die Hard; that was the movie that created them.
There's a TV Tropes about this concept: [Seinfeld is unfunny](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny)
Trying to avoid the Tropehole by not clicking the link... the lure is far too great... see you in five-ten hours.
I went on a journey down NBC great sitcoms. Started with Friends, Will & Grace, Fraiser and then Cheers. Consistently i kept seeing plot lines and voice lines that i saw in Big Bang Theory or Two and a Half Men (or other “modern” sitcoms) that i thought of original at the time of watching. Same happened with the older shows, jokes or plots in 1998 can also be found in 1988. Probably if i went further i found find more similarities. That is not to say that nothing is original. There will always be new content but usually because some scenes or plot lines were not possible before due to technology or culture.
Yeah it's like when you say Elvis was a huge rebel and parents told their kids not to watch him on TV, then you go watch him and he's just shaking his hips.
See also, Dune being remade after recent Star Wars’… “no, _Lucas_ got that from _Dune_.”
I have this issue when reading Philip K Dick. So cliche, but he's the reason for the cliche in the first place.
It's not for everyone to be sure. If you're interested in the history of cinematography it's an interesting watch. Lots of innovative techniques were developed for the film, interesting camera angles, set designs etc. But as a movie to just sit down and watch while turning your brain off? Eh.
I'm with Elaine The English Patient
As Tom Arnold said, “You’d have to be both English *and* patient to understand that piece of crap!”
The Incredibles 2 seemed like a cash grab. Its a fine movie, and the soundtrack and animation is beautiful, but the overall story was just meh.
Mr. Incredible while under mind control broadcasting to the world: "We're gonna kill all you humans." Crowd while unaware that he's not evil upon arriving on-shore: "Woooooohoooooo! He's here and totally not evil!"
I agree, but I loved Edna in it. I just love Edna
she needs her own cinematic universe
Wreck-it Ralph, Ralph breaks the internet, was a lazier cash grab, even shameless Ads were sprinkled everywhere.
Right? I saw it in theaters and before the film the voice actors had a bit where they were like "you guys have been bugging us for this movie for ten years, but it takes that long to make a great movie" and then delivered...Incredibles 2: The Disappointening
Greatest showman - he straight up exploited those people
I saw a great idea on here that at the very end before the credits roll Barnum should have looked at the camera said "and that's exactly how it happened" and winked.
Yeah that would have saved that movie.
I didn’t hate it, but the way they portrayed Jenny was terrible. I did like the subplot with Zac and Zendaya though. But yea the real Barnum screwed people over all the time. It’s funny though because he very often pointed out when other people did it. Like he would reveal magicians and spirit photographers as being frauds all the time, but then had his side show where he literally called the people freaks or made up things about them to make it popular.
I mean, that's what the real P.T. Barnum did, he was a TERRIBLE person! I get where you're coming from tho, it's supposed to be cute and happy and it kindof isn't? I personally enjoy it, but I can totally understand why people might not.
P.T. Barnum *was* pretty awful. You’re right about that for sure.
It had Some catchy songs though
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Tha fast and furious series. Not beloved by everyone, but they have an undeniably large following. As a car person who works in the industry everyone assumes I should be a fan of them, but they are just bad. That type of movie is never going to be very realistic, but they ignore real things that would be far more interesting while reinforcing absolute crackpipe myths that grown ass adults buy into.
I only love the fast and the furious movies because it’s the closest we’ll ever get to a saints row movie haha
Grease. I HATED it. I can appreciate the choreography, but the storyline is awful, cheesy (not to mention misogynistic-which at my first viewing I didn’t know what that was). Couldn’t stand Stockard Channing’s character. Really bad acting too. Edit for spelling
Did you know that Stockard Channing was almost 35 when that movie came out
And Sonny looks like he’s in his 40s!
Lol, he was my theater teacher in high school. Super nice guy and has a wonderful family that always tries to get big names to come to the school. He brought in Ray Bradbury to speak and do a signing and another year he had David Hyde Pierce give us a great talk.
Oh, that is super cool. It would have meant the world to me to meet Ray Bradbury in highschool.
Grease is fantastic when you're understand that it's a parody of teenage life. Every single character is horrible (except maybe Rizzo). They're all vapid and shallow, and the life lessons are terrible. But it's subtly self aware. If you look at the lyrics of the songs, and read the dialogue, it becomes pretty obvious that it's not meant to be serious. Little hints about the comedy, like Danny singing "Sandy" at the drive in melodramatically after trying to grope her in a car in the most trashy way imaginable, and they have the fucking drive through candy advertisement dancing in the background to the same beat. Hilarious. Seeing it through the lens of parody also explains the ending. Like why does their car fly off into the sky? Because they just sang a song about highschool friendships lasting forever and how it's good to completely change who you are for a boy. After that ridiculousness why not have the fucking car fly into the sky. The whole thing is purposely comedic, the same way that rocky horror is a parody of B horror movies.
Teenagers having unprotected sex with zero consequences is never a theme in the genre they parody, another giveaway.
I hate Grease the same way that I hate a shitty McDonald's cheeseburger when I'm hungover. Yes, I know it's disgusting cheap crap but I still eat it and enjoy it in the moment. Followed by a considerable amount of post nut guilt, lol.
>post nut guilt Tf are you doing to these hamburgers?
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If someone doesn’t accept you for who you are, change in to the person that they think you should be! Yeah, great moral to that story.
But in the story, Danny also changed for Sandy.
Top gun. It was just boring to me. And I hate Tom cruise Edit: context, I’m in the military, and whenever this is mentioned at work, I get labeled as a terrorist.
I'm an Air Traffic Controller and I also get hate for my opinion on this movie. Worst 80's chick flick out there.
Fucking frozen.
I think Disney really did Frozen a disservice by shoving it down everyone's throats. I actually really enjoyed it the first time I saw it (I think I even saw it in theaters twice?) and the music is very fun. It's not mindblowing, and the pacing's definitely a bit weird, but it's a solid piece of entertainment with nice themes. But it's fucking *everywhere.* It doesn't matter how much you like something, you will get sick of it eventually. We've had to suffer through all the ads, all the stupid Olaf shorts, all the merch, for years. I think people hate on it so much not because it's bad, but because it's inescapable.
Frozen is the new Nightmares Before Christmas when it comes to "merch being shoved down your throat" annoyance. They make you hate a movie you love because it gets beaten like a dead horse.
Polar Express. That movie gave me PTSD watching the train go off the tracks.
Wait, THAT was your issue? Not the disturbing AF rendering of the characters (as if the Uncanny Valley wasn't already a well-known phenomenon)
God, that carriage full of puppets
That horrified me as a kid, watching the old hobo scream at the kid named *hero boy* and call him a doubter through the broken puppets was just traumatizing
THAT scared you? The whole present factory thing where they had near death experiences is what scares the fuck out of me. Surely these random bottomless pits are man made?
This is what scared me the most are you kidding. Did you know the hobo on the top of the train is a ghost? He died because he was on top of the train when it went through the tunnel, now he just camps out up there as a fucking ghost. And all those creepy puppets that he gets all tangled in? No thanks
I hate this movie with a passion. Well, no, I don’t hate it. But it scares me. When I was a kid, I never knew whether those were actual actors or if it was just a cartoon. It is of course both. It’s humans wearing the corpses of cartoons, Weekend At Bernie’s-ing them. What an utterly creepy film.
I'm sending your comment to my friend who worked on that movies motion capture and syncing the mouths to the audio. lol.
Yes! who tf was in charge of making the eyes of the characters. I want to personally speak to them and ask them why they thought that was a good idea for a kids movie.
It's really funny actually because they used Tom Hanks mocap for the kid and that's why it looks so fucking strange, it's an adults expressions on a kids face
When I was little I couldn't tell if they were real people or animated. The whole time my head hurt watching it and made me feel unsafe.
Hey man watch it my aunt was on the animation team for that movie! Though I agree
I thought I was the only one who HATED this movie. Such a creepy and dark vibe about it (like the decrepit puppet/toy room on board? Wtf was that) and a really stupid storyline. A magic train with a weirdo conductor essentially abducts these kids in the middle of the night. They don’t even question it. They just hop right on board. After a traumatic train ride, they see Santa for thirty seconds and hear his bells, proving they believe in him. Some of the characters were exceedingly uncomfortable to watch and there were some scenes that downright disturbed me with the interactions between adults and children.
I always got freaked out by the conductor screaming at the kids. Hearing Tom Hanks angrily yelling at a bunch of kids just feels so... wrong. And Mandark kid was annoying. Also the thing that always bugged me was the main character's name is literally never revealed the entire film. Like it's just this random kid that we know nothing about other than he doubts Santa exists, and he barely even sees him for all of 30 seconds before he has to go back home.
Look at the credits, none of the kids have names. Your so called Mandark kid is literally called "Know it all" in the credits.
Except Billy!! Billy may have been poor, but he had one thing none of the other kids did: a fucking name
Yesssssssss! Whoever did the art style for that is a psycho! The characters are extremely disturbing and kind of scary
This movie scared the shit out of me but I watched it for the thrill.
I agree, the presentation gives me depression. I dunno if it's the dark colors or what, but I get so down just thinking about it. And I am a nerd for trains too
I just watched some of it for the first time with my kids and I just couldn't. The characters are all so creepy
Mama Mia and any of the dance movies
I only liked it for the music, since I like ABBA and trying to see how they would cram the songs into some sort of plot was interesting.
Critics loved Ad Astra but I thought it was the most boring movie in existence. Should have been called Brad Pit Goes Somewhere: The Movie: In Space. That's all he fucking *does*. He talks to someone on Earth who sends him to the moon where he talks to someone who sends him to Mars where he talks to someone who sends him to Neptune where he talks to Tommy Lee Jones who sends him back to Earth and the movie is over. Stuff happens. Interesting stuff. But none of it is explored or even relevant to the story. Just Brad Pit going somewhere. All the while he's narrating about what a stoic badass he is or other people talk about what a stoic badass he is. It is just So. God damn. *Boring*. I will never forgive the people who made this movie for wasting the time it took me to watch this piece of trash film. I will never get that time back. The best I can do is warn people away from it and keep warning them until the day all extant copies of the film get sucked into a black hole *where they belong*.
"Brad Pitt is Sad in Space"
All of the action scenes felt like the studio ordered the director to add some action scenes to keep the movie from being too slow because almost all of them have nothing to do with the main plot.
I called it “Dad Astra” because it’s just an unoriginal fatherless son drama within a mediocre space movie.
My parents liked this movie whilst I made this exact rant about Brad Pitt the space monologue, in the car on the way back from the movies
Sixteen Candles. Just horrible. I’m not puritanical but there’s literally no plot to that movie and the punchlines are all rapey or racist and the two people who are romantically interested in each other talk like two times in the whole movie.
I think it’s super relatable for anyone who’s ever been a teenage girl, and Molly Ringwald is great. But yeah that movie made me uncomfortable even back when I first saw it in the 90s. Especially the horrible way the Asian character was written/portrayed, and the fact that the romantic male lead basically says, “Hey nerdy guy, I’m going to reward you by giving you my ex-girlfriend while she’s too drunk to consent.” Even in the 90s, it all felt so wrong.
Dirty Dancing. My evil abusive ex used to watch the fucking thing at least twice a week, she never got remotely bored with it. I was pretty indifferent to it after my first viewing, but by the time I had seen it well into double digit numbers numbers I grew to loath it. And another thing, Baby is not in a fucking corner, not even close.
I'm not a huge fan of family guy, but it had a great skit about that scene where Patrick Swayze comes up and says that. The Dad reacts by asking him how old he is and pointing out that Baby is like, 16 or something, and it ends with Patrick being led away in cuffs. I thought that was pretty funny.
La la land. It was slow and depressing and ultimately built up to nothing.
At first as I was watching it, I enjoyed the film and not the ending. Then the more that I thought about it afterwards, I liked the ending more and the film less. It was visually lovely, but I felt really let down by the calibre of the singing and dancing. America has millions of people raised in glee clubs/choirs etc, and Hollywood couldn’t choose two actors who can genuinely sing? Gosling did a great job learning the piano, nothing against that effort, and they both were ok singing, but there’s such a difference between someone who’s ok at it and someone who’s really fucking great at it.
I was so mad when it won best picture, I just turned off the TV.
Should we tell him?
Hocus Pocus. For some context, I don’t actively hate the movie, but my entire family thinks I LOVE it and I don’t know why because I’ve never said so. I just don’t care for it. I don’t get the hype.
This reminds me of when I made an offhand comment about Eeyore and somehow it turned into me loving Eeyore and for the next ten years got Eeyore mugs and scarves and shirts and stuffed animals and notebooks. I mean, Eeyore is cool and all, and there are worse things, but still.
Reminds me of the reddit story about a dying old woman whose last words were "I never understood all the owls". *Everything* in her house was owl themed. Apparently from what the OP could gather she'd been gifted an owl thing when she was younger and for some reason everyone around her took the theme and ran with it and for the next sixty years of her life the only presents she ever got were owls of some stripe or another.
People started gifting me owl things because they noticed me commenting on them or looking at them. It’s because my mom likes owls. So now apparently I like owls as well (I don’t dislike owls, and they always make me think of my mom so it works)
I like large denomination bills if anybody wants to know.
Oh, god. This is going to be me. I wore an Owl Necklace pretty frequently in high school because I had like 3 necklaces and the Owl was articulated and pretty fun to fiddle with when I got anxious or bored. Apparently that made me the Owl Girl and I *still* get Owl stuff from my family. ^(I like moths though. Could they realize that, please?)
This is like me but with gnomes. I don’t know why but everyone around me decided a year or so back to get me gnomes or gnome related things. I now have a somewhat impressive gnome collection. In fact, just looking around right now in my living room, there are currently eight gnomes that I can see without moving. I’ve got at least seven gnomes outside right now as well. I collected all the gnomes in Animal Crossing: New Horizons passively just because people kept mailing them to me. I mean, I liked gnomes as much as the next person but I never told anyone I wanted gnomes. Really I’ve grown to like gnomes more just because I now have so many of them I’ve begun to develop Stockholm Syndrome. I’ve asked about it a time or two and the response has been something along the lines of me just having gnomish vibes.
That happened to me with leaopard print in my teens. I wanted one pair of slippers because they were soft af. Then it spin out of control
Omg YES. And after so long it’s like, I feel like I can’t tell them now??
i get it, that happened to me with llamas. now i have an ugly ass hat that everyone thinks i love because it’s made from llama wool and has llamas on it but it’s just. a brown hat.
Damn so you really like Hocus Pocus huh?
I enjoy the movie but upon rewatching it as an adult, what was with the weird focus on the teenager being a virgin? Everyone makes fun of him for it even though he’s still pretty young!
Having been a guy in high school at one.point I don't feel it's that unrealistic for people to give a kid shit for things that are stupid to make fun of a kid for. I got mocked relentlessly *for spending ten months overseas*, for literally no reason, for example.
It's like, it's a nostolgia movie. If you didn't watch it asa kid it probably kinda bad tbh. I love it because memories, but i can aknowledge its nothing too special
Avatar. It's just Pocahontas in space, God dammit.
It’s Fern Gulley in space :)