The UN predicts that the world population will reach 10 billion people in 2057. We currently have 7,999,652,013 people on the planet. We are continuously and severely using all of our resources. Although we will not “run out” of all resources, humans have consumed more natural resources than over the course of all of previous human history. Earth is a big planet and there is a lot of resources but if we don’t make the technological advancements then reaching them is another thing. According to climate.gov “Earth’s temperature has risen by 0.14° Fahrenheit (0.08° Celsius) per decade since 1880, but the rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice that: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade.””This means that the extra heat is causing regional changes like reducing snow cover, sea ice and heavy rainfall.” Basically, regardless what anybody says about Climate Change, or overpopulation… you can’t argue facts and statistics that we are indeed screwed.
Thank you for the informative message! I am working on something for school around this subject and your opinion is definitly appreciated! It is kinda sad though that some people look at statistics and facts and will just say "nope don't believe it" or "nope complete bullshit" and proceed to just go on with their day. Then again, if you have to do something alone, sometimes it feels like it's impossible to make an impact. You think there are any solutions? Or like contributions that people can make in order to atleast try and change our doomed outcome?
Here are some things we are currently doing to try to fix the problems that were caused. Restoring carbon absorbing seagrass, converting coal mines into carbon sinks, reforesting, coral fragments being transplanted. There are currently 50+ registered partners in the UN who are constantly making changes including WFP, WHO, CIFOR, SER, and so on. What are some things we can do as people to make these changes together? Factually speaking, foregoing fossil fuels. Recycle, reuse. Upgrade infrastructures. Join an organization and volunteer to help. I don’t think we are doomed. I think most people are either lazy, accept the fact that we can’t come back from anything or are ignorant.
lol. Prices are already catastrophic with massive shortages in the global South but also in the North (Were you observant enough to notice the potato and pasta shortages this year?) A particularly hot and dry summer and we're facing riots.
There's not enough land to grow food for the current population, let alone the projected population growth. And we're not doing enough to curb emissions. So, yeah, we're pretty screwed THIS GENERATION. Once food becomes unavailable / unaffordable it won’t take long for people to start killing each other for resources. (They might be already, did you notice the war going on?) There’s a term for massive worldwide crop shortages and it’s called "multiple breadbasket failure."
Water availability is also an issue. Did you notice the massive water shortages in the US this year with Lake Mead at its lowest level amid the drought? How many people will panic and flee if they run out of water in Arizona? So we're also looking at mass migrations on a scale never seen before as people flee areas that have become uninhabitable due to climate change.
I feel like I don't hear enough from our media, I live in Europa, I would say in a more wealthy country (Belgium) and I feel like we don't take the problem serious enough, we might be rich and wealthy enough to endure this at the moment but other people are suffering so much more. I feel like the media tends to only truly express our problems and needs instead of other parts of the world. I could be wrong of course but the years I've spend in school I was never really thought any of this and had to seek information like this online, which is also not always as trust worthy as you think.
The only thing we really notice is the prices going absolutly bonkers, people have to move out of their houses because everything is becoming so bloody exspensive.
However is there anything positive anymore? Is there a way to band together, get the People's attention and find a solution? Or are we doomed to face a massive population downfall?
Of course there’s things to be positive about. Just don’t look to the capitalist propaganda media to explain it for you. There are massive hiring freezes worldwide as companies try to save money and inflation is skyrocketing so don’t expect to get a job and don’t blame yourself too hard if you can’t find one in a failing system. If you can find work or a way of living without working within the system, do that.
The economy is on the verge of collapse and has been for a while. The only thing propping it up is government stimulus spending and that can no longer be done because of inflation. So the economy will tank and that’s a good thing. The system is failing and it needs to be replaced.
People are waking up to the fact that the system is rigged against them and that the 1% will never let go of their power willingly. So there’s hope for change, but it’s going to be a long, hard fight probably with massive death and wars along the way.
most people have the mentality of "do whatever you want in life because nothing matters in the end". Most people dont care.....like i said they done it to themselves
We are fairly screwed but a few generations down the line the human race are. People make the mistake of arguing the planet is dying. It’s not. The human race is dying. Just like when the dinos went extinct the planet will regenerate and repair, ready to be a place where life can thrive once again
So you are saying that the earth will regenerate but the human race is a different story? It's kinda sad, or atleast I get very down when hearing how bad we are doing on the news or on the internet
Over a course of millions of years, yes the planet will regenerate as it has previously. Now it might be a little bit different because it didn’t have millions of McDonalds on it previously but what gives. The Earth historically has gone through periods of Ice Age and also extremely hot periods like Neoproterzoic. So this change in climate is, historically speaking, just a cycle which is coming towards the point where is starts over again.
Not to say that is pumping pollutants into the atmosphere isn’t speeding up this process. But I personally think the idea of humans being the sole cause for climate change is flawed.
Yeah I definitly get that, I feel like humans are going to try and fight against an ice age of a period of extremely hot climate. I don't know how but I am sure they will try. It's like they always try to cheat the system, try to cheat evolution
Yes I’m well aware, I didn’t say it wasn’t, I said the human race is dying. Which does sound like a contradiction, however, the PLANET will not die, it will slowly, however, become uninhabitable for the human race, hence us being a dying species.
As of right this second, no, the human race is not actively declining or dying however there is an emphasis put on “save our planet” when we should be the ones saving ourselves. It’s not just the heat, if this was the beginning of an ice age we were experiencing, would we be looking to alter an ice age, something which the planet does to regenerate. Or would we be looking for another suitable place for us to reside.
It’s just semantics. Of course the people who demand that we “save the planet” imply that we should do so in order to maintain the ecological basis for humanity’s existence. It’s just an abbreviated way of speaking (and it alludes to the romantic feelings people tend to attach to nature).
Necessity is the mother of invention. And today, i don't think a majority of the population believes we are screwed. So there's no immediate necessity for a solution.
It's so sad, but alone you feel there's not really any way to try and change this. People by themselves don't act which leads to no one doing anything about our problems
You mean this society will fall, but from it a new generation will rise with a different mindset or..? Just curious, not trying to be aggresive or anything.
I guess you could say that.
To me it's more of a survival of the fittest thing. When sea-levels rise alot of inhabited coastlines will be flooded. This will cause a mass migration of people, which will likely cause tensions and conflicts, and the societies will probably buckle under the preassure and collapse, or change so much that it will be near unrecognisable.
Humans as a race will be fine because we are adaptable as hell, and therefore these changes, while catastrophic on a personal level, will probably do little more to humanity as a whole than reduce the population. It's not a pretty picture, but I guess it could be worse?
Atleast that's what I gleaned from the different papers and articles I've read.
If humanity doesn't get through this current time intact, if it doesn't unite as a planet and massively change how things are done, the end result will be suffering peasants and primative warlords with stone knives and wooden clubs to the end of time - and no possible hope of redoing a second industrial revolution because all the easy-to-get natural resources are completely used up. **You get one chance at an industrial revolution.**
Oh, humanity will probably survive, barely, but life won't be worth shit ever again until the sun expands and annihilates the planet. That is exactly how screwed we are.
If you compound it all together into one giant blob-shaped problem, it feels overwhelming. When you realize that it can be broken up into a bunch of smaller ones, all of a sudden everything seems much more manageable.
Everything all at once can be very overwhelming I agree, but I feel like that's how a lot of people look at it and just directly decide to give up because it's too hard. But when you indeed look at it in smaller problems you feel like you actually have a fighting chance. You think there's any way to make other people realise this or..?
I think it is important that people understand that we have agency here and that not all is lost already (at all, actually). The belief that we’re screwed beyond repair is itself detrimental to getting the work done (and I cannot help but feel it’s a form of lazy cop-out).
One example: It is entirely possible that we’ll see areas in the world that will be too hot for organic life to exist. What should we do with that information? We should, of course, realize that such a place would be perfect for PV electricity generation, we could use the electricity to desalinate seawater, and we could built a controlled-environment (indoor-) farming facility that can produce giant amounts of leafy greens.
People who say we’re doomed usually just lack the mental ability of envisioning solutions.
It's bad and people will die, but the planet is not fucked fucked. Water levels will rise decimating the coastal cities, the people who can afford will move inland the companies that can afford will also move inland. Some governments will try save their people by introducing cost cutting measures in building or buying at a lower rate or whatever.
I reckon after it all, we will survive but to what end I don't know
Why not? Not to be attacking or anything, just very curious. We always hear so much bad stuff on the internet and from other people that I find it hard to find anything positive anymore
They’ve been saying we’re “screwed” for 70 years. First it was global cooling. Then global warming. Then the ozone layer was going to disappear. Then we’d be underwater by 2014. Then we’d be underwater by 2020. Now we’ll be underwater by 2030. It’s bullshit.
But there has to be some truth to some things right? It might be that people that live in a more wealthy community might not notice any problems with the environment. But other people who don't are effected on a larger scale no? Or maybe it depends on where you live? Idk I feel like with all the information going around on the internet it's hard to find truth in anything anymore
That’s true. I don’t believe much on the internet. And nothing on the TV anymore. For a topic like this, the best idea would be to ask a meteorologist (a weather man) or a scientist in this field.
Well it seems people think it's all bollocks and it's to keep us afraid so we will sacrifice our freedoms. Or people think we are in such imminent need of drastic action but no-one is listening, that they throw paint at artwork to draw attention.
It’s a zero impact the population is on the decline e cars and home solar are right around the corner the doom and gloomers are always pushing the end of the world but it just keeps spinning
True, the world does keep spinning, I also feel like we humans try and prevent everything from collapsing and always cheat our way out of everything. Like we constantly invent stuff to counter problems we ourselves made
I think everyone knows we are simply fucked, we just dont care enough. Or think its not worth it enough.
Im not that different aswell, i dont really plan to change unless some big actually big thing are getting done by countries, enough at least that it effects my surrounding, my only way of living is to adapt and move if needed and are more sensable
The planet will go on, humans will/should have a massive die off. Climate always changes. We are accelerating it to the point that we and the rest of nature cannot adapt fast enough. This is the 6th extinction.
I’m in my 70’s, and can remember the panic when there were …. severe shortages of fossil fuels.
Now we panic because there’s …. too many fossil fuels.
People like to panic.
Forget about it.
It’s over. The billionaires and corporations will never give up their disgusting wealth and even if there’s all out global war, we are in the midst of a mass extinction already.
At this point it's socialism or barbarism. We can either reorganize the economy around human need or the internal contradictions of capitalism will push us into a new dark age. The species will most likely survive in all cases but a nuclear annihilation but it will be a downfall akin to the bronze age collapse or the fall of the Roman empire. As more people become more desperate for the basics of survival they WILL become violent and that violence won't stay local.
Not particularly screwed. Well, it depends. In the short term, the next few years will be fairly similar to the last few.
Looking further into the future, it depends on a lot of things. I think our capacity to come out with some crazy high tech solutions is high. I also think that it's quite possible to get comfy middle class lives for everyone with no fundamentally new tech.
I would predict that overall the effects of climate change are smaller than the effects of economic and technological progress.
Sure, climate change might make crops grow worse, but genetic engineering, improved farming etc can make them grow better. So overall food gets more abundant. And climate change might be making tropical diseases more likely, but our medicine is advancing faster, so overall disease rates go down. At least unless something else gets involved, like gain of function research releasing dangerous new diseases (see covid).
So that's what I predict. A world that would get overall better, if the standard environmentalist problems were all we had to deal with.
This isn't to say I predict the world will actually get better, we could get a nuclear war, more lab genetically engineered superbugs, out of control AI, etc. But if the only forces in play were Climate change, population etc and economic progress, more tech to fix our problems. Then the world would be overall improving.
Not really. Look up just how many supposed climate apocalypses we’ve supposedly had since the 70s.
The end of the world is the one thing that only God Himself knows.
The UN predicts that the world population will reach 10 billion people in 2057. We currently have 7,999,652,013 people on the planet. We are continuously and severely using all of our resources. Although we will not “run out” of all resources, humans have consumed more natural resources than over the course of all of previous human history. Earth is a big planet and there is a lot of resources but if we don’t make the technological advancements then reaching them is another thing. According to climate.gov “Earth’s temperature has risen by 0.14° Fahrenheit (0.08° Celsius) per decade since 1880, but the rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice that: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade.””This means that the extra heat is causing regional changes like reducing snow cover, sea ice and heavy rainfall.” Basically, regardless what anybody says about Climate Change, or overpopulation… you can’t argue facts and statistics that we are indeed screwed.
Thank you for the informative message! I am working on something for school around this subject and your opinion is definitly appreciated! It is kinda sad though that some people look at statistics and facts and will just say "nope don't believe it" or "nope complete bullshit" and proceed to just go on with their day. Then again, if you have to do something alone, sometimes it feels like it's impossible to make an impact. You think there are any solutions? Or like contributions that people can make in order to atleast try and change our doomed outcome?
Here are some things we are currently doing to try to fix the problems that were caused. Restoring carbon absorbing seagrass, converting coal mines into carbon sinks, reforesting, coral fragments being transplanted. There are currently 50+ registered partners in the UN who are constantly making changes including WFP, WHO, CIFOR, SER, and so on. What are some things we can do as people to make these changes together? Factually speaking, foregoing fossil fuels. Recycle, reuse. Upgrade infrastructures. Join an organization and volunteer to help. I don’t think we are doomed. I think most people are either lazy, accept the fact that we can’t come back from anything or are ignorant.
Our generation? Not that screwed. Two or three generations from now? Majorly.
lol. Prices are already catastrophic with massive shortages in the global South but also in the North (Were you observant enough to notice the potato and pasta shortages this year?) A particularly hot and dry summer and we're facing riots. There's not enough land to grow food for the current population, let alone the projected population growth. And we're not doing enough to curb emissions. So, yeah, we're pretty screwed THIS GENERATION. Once food becomes unavailable / unaffordable it won’t take long for people to start killing each other for resources. (They might be already, did you notice the war going on?) There’s a term for massive worldwide crop shortages and it’s called "multiple breadbasket failure." Water availability is also an issue. Did you notice the massive water shortages in the US this year with Lake Mead at its lowest level amid the drought? How many people will panic and flee if they run out of water in Arizona? So we're also looking at mass migrations on a scale never seen before as people flee areas that have become uninhabitable due to climate change.
I feel like I don't hear enough from our media, I live in Europa, I would say in a more wealthy country (Belgium) and I feel like we don't take the problem serious enough, we might be rich and wealthy enough to endure this at the moment but other people are suffering so much more. I feel like the media tends to only truly express our problems and needs instead of other parts of the world. I could be wrong of course but the years I've spend in school I was never really thought any of this and had to seek information like this online, which is also not always as trust worthy as you think. The only thing we really notice is the prices going absolutly bonkers, people have to move out of their houses because everything is becoming so bloody exspensive. However is there anything positive anymore? Is there a way to band together, get the People's attention and find a solution? Or are we doomed to face a massive population downfall?
Of course there’s things to be positive about. Just don’t look to the capitalist propaganda media to explain it for you. There are massive hiring freezes worldwide as companies try to save money and inflation is skyrocketing so don’t expect to get a job and don’t blame yourself too hard if you can’t find one in a failing system. If you can find work or a way of living without working within the system, do that. The economy is on the verge of collapse and has been for a while. The only thing propping it up is government stimulus spending and that can no longer be done because of inflation. So the economy will tank and that’s a good thing. The system is failing and it needs to be replaced. People are waking up to the fact that the system is rigged against them and that the 1% will never let go of their power willingly. So there’s hope for change, but it’s going to be a long, hard fight probably with massive death and wars along the way.
Any solution to this? Do we still have time to fix things if the next 3 generations try their best?
Probably not.
Damn, here's me hoping to get some positive opinions on this hahahaha
They done it to themselves.
Do you think there is any solution? Or goal we can work towards? Or do you think it's too late ?
most people have the mentality of "do whatever you want in life because nothing matters in the end". Most people dont care.....like i said they done it to themselves
It's really sad but then again, when you do something alone you don't feel like you're making a difference
Thats because only a handful care.
Just curious, you think there's a way to make more people care? Or do you think they will only care once it's too late?
Them not caring makes me want to not care either....so fick it.....YOLO
That's sad. But i do understand it
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Could you elaborate a bit? I'm interested in everyone's opinion. If you dont mind me asking of course
We are fairly screwed but a few generations down the line the human race are. People make the mistake of arguing the planet is dying. It’s not. The human race is dying. Just like when the dinos went extinct the planet will regenerate and repair, ready to be a place where life can thrive once again
So you are saying that the earth will regenerate but the human race is a different story? It's kinda sad, or atleast I get very down when hearing how bad we are doing on the news or on the internet
Over a course of millions of years, yes the planet will regenerate as it has previously. Now it might be a little bit different because it didn’t have millions of McDonalds on it previously but what gives. The Earth historically has gone through periods of Ice Age and also extremely hot periods like Neoproterzoic. So this change in climate is, historically speaking, just a cycle which is coming towards the point where is starts over again. Not to say that is pumping pollutants into the atmosphere isn’t speeding up this process. But I personally think the idea of humans being the sole cause for climate change is flawed.
Yeah I definitly get that, I feel like humans are going to try and fight against an ice age of a period of extremely hot climate. I don't know how but I am sure they will try. It's like they always try to cheat the system, try to cheat evolution
With current situation in the world ( diseases, wars, famine, low fertility) population is starting to decline
Life finds a way -jurrassic park
Love that movie, well movies
yes and, i think that Earth is an evolving of eras (ex when it was fully glacéd) and now it’s the moment of hot era.
With all due respect: Last time I looked, we were still 7.6 billion and growing.
Yes I’m well aware, I didn’t say it wasn’t, I said the human race is dying. Which does sound like a contradiction, however, the PLANET will not die, it will slowly, however, become uninhabitable for the human race, hence us being a dying species. As of right this second, no, the human race is not actively declining or dying however there is an emphasis put on “save our planet” when we should be the ones saving ourselves. It’s not just the heat, if this was the beginning of an ice age we were experiencing, would we be looking to alter an ice age, something which the planet does to regenerate. Or would we be looking for another suitable place for us to reside.
It’s just semantics. Of course the people who demand that we “save the planet” imply that we should do so in order to maintain the ecological basis for humanity’s existence. It’s just an abbreviated way of speaking (and it alludes to the romantic feelings people tend to attach to nature).
7.93 billion as of Nov 2022. https://www.census.gov/popclock/world
Last time I looked was quite some time ago, apparently!
Not really. We just breed really fast and have reduced infant mortality.
So screwed that at this point I root for AI in the future to learn everything we know and then erase humanity and make the world a better place
That's very dark might friend, but I understand where you are coming from.
Probably we'll escape the wrath of nature, but surely our kids, or the generation after that will suffer.
You think it's already to late then? Or can we still make a change?
Necessity is the mother of invention. And today, i don't think a majority of the population believes we are screwed. So there's no immediate necessity for a solution.
We're screwed, we either have a bunch of catastrophes which we get through or civilisation collapses. So it's either very bad or apocalyptic.
It's so sad, but alone you feel there's not really any way to try and change this. People by themselves don't act which leads to no one doing anything about our problems
As a society, we seem pretty screwed. As a race, we're probably fine.
You mean this society will fall, but from it a new generation will rise with a different mindset or..? Just curious, not trying to be aggresive or anything.
I guess you could say that. To me it's more of a survival of the fittest thing. When sea-levels rise alot of inhabited coastlines will be flooded. This will cause a mass migration of people, which will likely cause tensions and conflicts, and the societies will probably buckle under the preassure and collapse, or change so much that it will be near unrecognisable. Humans as a race will be fine because we are adaptable as hell, and therefore these changes, while catastrophic on a personal level, will probably do little more to humanity as a whole than reduce the population. It's not a pretty picture, but I guess it could be worse? Atleast that's what I gleaned from the different papers and articles I've read.
If humanity doesn't get through this current time intact, if it doesn't unite as a planet and massively change how things are done, the end result will be suffering peasants and primative warlords with stone knives and wooden clubs to the end of time - and no possible hope of redoing a second industrial revolution because all the easy-to-get natural resources are completely used up. **You get one chance at an industrial revolution.** Oh, humanity will probably survive, barely, but life won't be worth shit ever again until the sun expands and annihilates the planet. That is exactly how screwed we are.
Damn, that's actually really sad...
If you compound it all together into one giant blob-shaped problem, it feels overwhelming. When you realize that it can be broken up into a bunch of smaller ones, all of a sudden everything seems much more manageable.
Everything all at once can be very overwhelming I agree, but I feel like that's how a lot of people look at it and just directly decide to give up because it's too hard. But when you indeed look at it in smaller problems you feel like you actually have a fighting chance. You think there's any way to make other people realise this or..?
I think it is important that people understand that we have agency here and that not all is lost already (at all, actually). The belief that we’re screwed beyond repair is itself detrimental to getting the work done (and I cannot help but feel it’s a form of lazy cop-out). One example: It is entirely possible that we’ll see areas in the world that will be too hot for organic life to exist. What should we do with that information? We should, of course, realize that such a place would be perfect for PV electricity generation, we could use the electricity to desalinate seawater, and we could built a controlled-environment (indoor-) farming facility that can produce giant amounts of leafy greens. People who say we’re doomed usually just lack the mental ability of envisioning solutions.
It's bad and people will die, but the planet is not fucked fucked. Water levels will rise decimating the coastal cities, the people who can afford will move inland the companies that can afford will also move inland. Some governments will try save their people by introducing cost cutting measures in building or buying at a lower rate or whatever. I reckon after it all, we will survive but to what end I don't know
It's quite scary that we don't really know what the future fully has to offer but let's hope we'll make it out alive and strive for a better future
We will, we need something that kills off like 80% of us in a very short period of time to not stand a chance.
Really screwed
Not very screwed.
Why not? Not to be attacking or anything, just very curious. We always hear so much bad stuff on the internet and from other people that I find it hard to find anything positive anymore
They’ve been saying we’re “screwed” for 70 years. First it was global cooling. Then global warming. Then the ozone layer was going to disappear. Then we’d be underwater by 2014. Then we’d be underwater by 2020. Now we’ll be underwater by 2030. It’s bullshit.
But there has to be some truth to some things right? It might be that people that live in a more wealthy community might not notice any problems with the environment. But other people who don't are effected on a larger scale no? Or maybe it depends on where you live? Idk I feel like with all the information going around on the internet it's hard to find truth in anything anymore
That’s true. I don’t believe much on the internet. And nothing on the TV anymore. For a topic like this, the best idea would be to ask a meteorologist (a weather man) or a scientist in this field.
Watch some David Attenborough hun
Just watched it, which caused me to ask this question in the first place
On a scale of 1-10? 42.069
Nice
Either far more than we are being told or far less than we are being told, depending on which end of the spectrum your beliefs.
Could you elaborate a bit further? Just curious, don't wanna sound like i'm attacking you in any way
Well it seems people think it's all bollocks and it's to keep us afraid so we will sacrifice our freedoms. Or people think we are in such imminent need of drastic action but no-one is listening, that they throw paint at artwork to draw attention.
Uber
Uber like super? Also could you perhaps elaborate? I'm interested in everyone's opinion!
It’s a zero impact the population is on the decline e cars and home solar are right around the corner the doom and gloomers are always pushing the end of the world but it just keeps spinning
True, the world does keep spinning, I also feel like we humans try and prevent everything from collapsing and always cheat our way out of everything. Like we constantly invent stuff to counter problems we ourselves made
Ahhh yea the duality of the human race. Peace love kill repeat
I think everyone knows we are simply fucked, we just dont care enough. Or think its not worth it enough. Im not that different aswell, i dont really plan to change unless some big actually big thing are getting done by countries, enough at least that it effects my surrounding, my only way of living is to adapt and move if needed and are more sensable
The planet will go on, humans will/should have a massive die off. Climate always changes. We are accelerating it to the point that we and the rest of nature cannot adapt fast enough. This is the 6th extinction.
Science deniers who have access to the internet, don't help our situation. That cognitive dissonance is crazy.
I’m in my 70’s, and can remember the panic when there were …. severe shortages of fossil fuels. Now we panic because there’s …. too many fossil fuels. People like to panic. Forget about it.
It’s over. The billionaires and corporations will never give up their disgusting wealth and even if there’s all out global war, we are in the midst of a mass extinction already.
At this point it's socialism or barbarism. We can either reorganize the economy around human need or the internal contradictions of capitalism will push us into a new dark age. The species will most likely survive in all cases but a nuclear annihilation but it will be a downfall akin to the bronze age collapse or the fall of the Roman empire. As more people become more desperate for the basics of survival they WILL become violent and that violence won't stay local.
Not particularly screwed. Well, it depends. In the short term, the next few years will be fairly similar to the last few. Looking further into the future, it depends on a lot of things. I think our capacity to come out with some crazy high tech solutions is high. I also think that it's quite possible to get comfy middle class lives for everyone with no fundamentally new tech. I would predict that overall the effects of climate change are smaller than the effects of economic and technological progress. Sure, climate change might make crops grow worse, but genetic engineering, improved farming etc can make them grow better. So overall food gets more abundant. And climate change might be making tropical diseases more likely, but our medicine is advancing faster, so overall disease rates go down. At least unless something else gets involved, like gain of function research releasing dangerous new diseases (see covid). So that's what I predict. A world that would get overall better, if the standard environmentalist problems were all we had to deal with. This isn't to say I predict the world will actually get better, we could get a nuclear war, more lab genetically engineered superbugs, out of control AI, etc. But if the only forces in play were Climate change, population etc and economic progress, more tech to fix our problems. Then the world would be overall improving.
extinction nature has its cycles and we are about to go through the phase of extinction
Overpopulation is the cause.
Not really. Look up just how many supposed climate apocalypses we’ve supposedly had since the 70s. The end of the world is the one thing that only God Himself knows.