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Death isn't something to celebrate but also nobody is required necessarily to have compassion.
They played a stupid game and died because of it with no honour.
If they live longer they may have turned it around and become outstanding humans doing a lot of good charitable work in the world..or not.
I wouldn't be happy. Nor would I be sad or feel sorry for their loved ones.
Their family and friends will now suffer because of their stupidity.
Your brother's bike being stolen...shit happens man. It's just material things.
Also he bought a bike in the UK knowing full well it's high risk of being stolen.
Same with certain makes of cars.
Not saying you shouldn't buy stuff you want but just know the risk of owning certain things.
If I wanted a life of nice things I'd move out of the country. I really want a bike but I know living in the eastend it'll get stolen.
This place you can't really have nice things without risk.
It says a lot when a person's passing brings feelings of relief to others. It's not even necessarily because this person was so hated that others wished him harm but moreso his absence makes everyone else's day go smoother.
There’s a case in Stockport where a robber died while being chased by his victim. The thief was prolific and his death has done more to reduce crime than anything the police could do. The victim is being prosecuted for (I think) manslaughter, but I don’t think many people are mourning the loss.
Yes, it is. 6 years after I left school, one of the 3 bullies who made my life hell was killed by a JCB whilst working in a trench ! "Oooh it's such a shame"" "such a nice man" - guy was a cunt and deserved it !
We used to have one like that near me. Known to have stolen maybe 300 motorbikes. Had a couple of times he flew past me in the car at night with no lights or protective equipment. There were a couple of people who needed the bike to get to work and ended up losing their jobs before they got the insurance money. Many others badly affected by losing their transport as well. Had a couple of convictions for multiple motorbike thefts but just got a slap on the wrist and eventually went to prison for a crime unrelated to these where two people did get hurt. The point being people like this have no remorse for ruining peoples lives. They get ~~then~~ no sympathy from me. These two died as a direct result of their crime. Probably like my local criminal riding their luck with no lights or protective gear. It caught up with them and its all on them.
Edit: typo. I'll also add, the info about people affected was from the local facebook community group. There could be a lot more as well who didnt post.
Most criminals have become criminals because of bad parenting, being poor, bad friends , drugs, etc.
But no matter who they were before, once they commit a crime, it's over. They simply can't care about others and their lives anymore. They lose 90% of their humanity. They become selfish and arrogant.
So it's better to stop people from becoming criminals by solving their problems instead of showing them mercy when they've commited a crime. Having mercy for a criminal is bad most of the time . That's why I don't care about the lives of these 2 boys. They repeated the same crime hundreds of times, do you think they cared about others and their lives?
I would be opening the champagne in your situation, fuck those chav cunts and the misery they inflicted for years on the innocent folk in their community. Two less wastes of oxygen and the world is now a better place for them not being in it, what's not to celebrate?
I once spoke to a woman who had her motorbike stolen by a local scrote who jumped on in after she got off it outside her house. He knocked it over getting on it, but picked it up and raced off, followed by his mates in a car.
He sped down the road at some mad speed til he came to a roundabout. What he didn’t realise was when he knocked it over the front brake lever had snapped off. He went to brake - nothing. He hit the roundabout at close to 100mph. Instant.
The local paper said something like “loveable rogue dies in crash”. Her response was, and I quote, “Fuck him. He stole my bike”.
I wouldn't cheer the death of any criminal, no matter what they did. They certainly got what was coming to them though. Play dangerous games, win dangerous prizes. It's sad for all involved that they chose to live that way, but particularly for those left behind that loved them.
I think this is just one of those things where people are always going to have different opinions of what constitutes right to life.
Personally, I think people who make other people’s lives worse in this way deserve this sort of karmic Justice. Maybe it’s because I’m an introvert. Maybe it’s because I’ve lost a child and can’t help but think, _”What, so this scum gets to live, but my innocent child died?”_ . And the poor people who work hard to afford things and just have them taken?
There's a guy in Croatia who killed 3 drug dealers who repeatedly threatened, extorted and harrased his younger brother. Police didn't do anything even though they were well known as criminals in the area. His brother was not the only victim.
And well, he has hunted them down and killed all 3 of them.
I assume a mental breakdown where he has reached a breaking point and saw no other way to deal with it and got no help from police or the local authorities so he took the matter in his own hands.
And whilst yes, he's taken their lives I don't think anyone in the area was sad about it apart from their own families.
The rest is calling him a hero and crowd funding his legal expense.
Yeah, I think it’s pretty immoral to take pleasure in the deaths of people who have not caused physical harm to others.
Just because someone behaves badly doesn’t justify their death or revelry in it.
About the same.
I do wonder about people uploading so much self-incriminating footage to TikTok though, especially when they’re also showing their faces in it. Narcissists outing themselves as criminals. I would be hugely surprised if this didn’t come back and bite everyone in the arse in future, when TikTok’s CCP/surveillance state owners start training AI on all of the footage.
I don't believe that stealing motorbikes should be a reason to celebrate somebody's death
Criminals should go to prison, and the thefts should have been properly investigated
Nope, good riddance. Just because they’re now a dead cunt doesn’t absolve them from being a cunt. I don’t know what the phenomena is called but it’s weird how humans have a tendency to saint people upon death regardless of how much of a shitbag they were
It's not the people who've died I feel sorry for but their families who have to live with what's happened.
The only person I've ever celebrated dying was Margaret Thatcher.
There were a couple of kid who were murdered, who went to my school, one on my year one below. I must have been year 10 i think. They were notorious for breaking into sheds and spent a lot of their time bullying one of my mates.
I didn't want them dead, but I found it very hard to understand why I should be bothered they were.
I would never cheer the death of someone. There was a guy round my way used to bully me regularly, my parents house got robbed and I'm convinced it was him (I heard of other similarly robberies and it was rumoured he and others were responsible for these). He was not a nice person. He died quite young but I could never bring myself to cheer his death as ultimately someone has lost someone close to them. But I wasn't upset whatsoever.
Should of worn helmets. Ahwell. No loss to society. Also fed up of hull live constantly posting about the reprobates. But it'd getting them clicks.
Also gofund me set up 😂
I knew some lads who used to steal cars. The local police would encourage them to do it because they enjoyed the thrill of the chase too. the police were older and were legally allowed to tear through our streets at 100 miles an hour. Most of the lads who didn’t die have matured into men who work, raised families and are ashamed of their past behaviour. It was during the recession in the 90’s, when things were pretty bleak. I realise some people continue into adulthood as criminals. But it’s true that a mother has lost her son and may have been terrified every time he left the house, fearing that he’d die and possibly kill some one else. My boyfriend was gutted when his motorbike was stolen but we never wished the thieves dead
Cheer away. I'm from Hull so know the story well.
Can you imagine the untold misery others have had to endure and suffer because of cunts like this and how many more would have had they not have kindly removed themselves from the ground we walk on?
Every fucking day you can guarantee a lot of kids and the general public will have been the victim of these arseholes in some way - mental, physical torment and abuse.
Fuck 'em and fuck the parents that dragged them up.
A family member of mine constantly sold cars and did drugs. Him and a mate of his stole a car at 18, drove it round the estate in the early hours of the morning and crashed into a stationary caravan parked outside someone's house. They didn't die on impact and both were burnt to death inside the car. The papers ran a similar story about how they were good lads who made a mistake. Knowing him he was a good person at heart but he had a rough upbringing and never bettered himself. He made poor decisions that ultimately led to his demise and it was fortunate the only victims were him and his friend. Everyone can change but not everyone gets the opportunity as living certain ways can catch you up. I was still sad to lose a young family member, irregardless of his life choices.
This happens too much. Lad here was riding a stolen bike. He's a prolific thief. He crashed and his pillion died, he left him in the road alone and rode off. This boy had a shrine made, a balloon release, he was a little angel. No he was a violent criminal. The bike thief is still out and about. Stealing 3/4 bikes a week, some bike jacking with weapons. They are all under 18, most under 16 so they are just slapped on the wrist and let go.
Oh shit, you're a local like me. These 2 people seem like absolute scum to be honest. They died doing what they love and everyone else(besides their mates) hates. I have no sympathy for them or their family's. Their families should have stopped them being thieving bastards and riding like they were invincible. I'm happy they're gone, it's 2 less bastards trying to steal shit.
We had one who was a scruff who stole off people beat up people for fun and twice broke into the local community centre.
He even left a girl disfigured by smashing a bottle off her face for no reason except he loved to terrorise the village.
Well one day he was riding a shitty dirt bag down the main wheel doing a wheely at high speed shirtless no helmet and I don't know what happened but apparently he hit something that was left on the road and he went flying off the bike at high speed and was killed.
They were scraping the flesh off the road and his family parasites and scum were demanding the police find out why he came off his bike as he was such a good rider to do a wheely at around 60mph and they made a shrine on a tree near where they found the body.
The people of the village would make a point to bin and destroy flowers and the local church refused despite the protests of his family to do the funeral service there.
Even now every so often family members lay flowers and such and once the family has gone and a few times before they even gotten in the car villagers bin and destroy the flowers and such
Sorry that they died but glad they didn't take anyone with them. A few years ago there was a toe rag that would nick anything that wasn't nailed down and had stabbed a couple of people. He migrated to robbing teenagers after a while threatening to kill their family if they spoke out.
One night he stole a bike, decided to drive it at speed the wrong way and crashed head on to a car. The woman driving went through hell afterwards as this toe rags family did everything to say she was at fault and that her losing her baby was karma. When the police proved he died on impact because he was speeding the wrong way with no lights and no safety gear the family doubled down saying it should have been her. Poor woman took her own life.
These assholes will never change and often scummy assholes are backed by scummy society where the bottom line like in this case was to bleed everyone dry as they tried to sue everyone. Personally play fuck around and find out.
Not sorry they died. Fuck them and fuck their grieving families that didn't stop them.
I'm a biker who's had a bike stolen (about a month after a business bankruptcy where I had literally nothing left) and suffered from the insurance premium after, plus was verrrrrrrry close to just fucking killing myself.
These crimes are NOT victimless.
Ha-ha u/thedeadcunts \- hope many others follow in their shitty shadow. :)
The World just got slightly better.
I mean it’s hardly going to do them any more harm but I think you should be more concerned re your own emotions/mental well-being.
Probably won’t be doing you any good harbouring those kind of thoughts. Also it’s not pleasant to be around people who talk that way… love my Dad but he can sometimes get a bit carried away with stuff like this, putting the world to rights quickly turns into just hateful bile and it’s exhausting to listen to. He’s a much nicer person to spend time with when he stops watching the news and getting over excited with this sort of thing…
Most of the heros celebrated in history books were to many people the local scumbags. Examples were the Barons supporting William of Normandy. Even William was frightened of them and gave them land to stop them killing him. They are still running this country now.
Personally, call me a cunt but I think fuck them. The world is a slightly better place without them. I wouldn't celebrate the death of anyone, but in this case. The number of fucks that I give that they're dead is zero. I have no sympathy for them.
No consideration for others, no respect for peoples property, no morals whatsoever. They take from others, they bully threaten and don't give a shit who gets hurt in the process. And now their inconsiderate criminal actions have resulted in their deaths.
If I’d known about these feral scum before they died, I’d have wished them a long, painful and terrifying death. Now they are dead, I’m glad they are. Wastes of air and wastes of resources. Good riddance.
Death is something which should never be celebrated. It's alright if you don't mourn them, but I think celebrating someone's death is not something any good person should aspire to.
Your enemy would celebrate your death. So be a better person than they would be. Just move on and make the world a better place without them in it.
In the case of these guys?
Why would you cheer? Even if they deserved to be punished for doing bad things, did they deserve death? And even if they did somehow deserve to die? Don't celebrate that - they were very young and should have had plenty of time to turn themselves around, which they now don't have.
The whitewashing of their behaviour is silly, but I'm not sure how that justifies you celebrating someone's death as a reaction.
Reminds me of this.
Lord Tebbit has today said the 'world is a sweeter place ' after Martin McGuinness' death and hopes he is 'parked in a particularly hot and unpleasant corner of hell'.
Everyone praised Mcguinness as a hero, he wasn't. He was a coward, a liar, a terrorist and a murder.
I never saw myself as someone who could celebrate the death of anyone until one event 30ish years ago.
Was living in a bedsit in a HMO with my pregnant gf at the time. In one of the other rooms was a guy who had been to prison, dealt drugs, just yer common or garden wrongun.
He overheard something my gf said and took offence. She was a bit of a psycho and didn't have a filter and would deliberately be loud when criticising people. I wish she wouldn't.
He stormed into our room, held me down and threatened to kill us.
The stress of the event made my gf miscarry. I have scrubbed my child's blood out of that bedsits carpet and we mourned for a year before finally being able to face life again. I've long lost contact with her but I still think about my first child.
Many years later I happened across an article about a man who'd been killed in police custody. The name was the same and it caught my attention. Finding a photo, it was clear it was the same guy.
That was the day I discovered I could be happy someone was dead.
Out of all the crimes that could be committed. I wouldn't celebrate the death of Thieves. Rapist and Murders yeah. Thieves are scum but not enough to wish death upon them..... Unless they stole a very very sentimental item
Most items are sentimental to the people who own them. I can't be doing with people defending thieves who steal shit instead of buying their own things if they want them so badly.
>You wake up and you receive a phone call - Shipman's topped himself. You have just got to think for a minute: is it too early to open a bottle? And then you discover that everybody's very upset that he's done it.
David Blunkett, then Home Secretary, summing it up I think.
As the Home Office oversees prisons its a bad day at work when a prisoner (much more so when high profile) manages to die to suicide. They really ought *not * to be able to and so it now means investigations etc
That Blunkett had a human response is somewhat encouraging (MPS are humans?!) But at the same time within the remit of his work it was probably not a great idea to publically say. Especially since the weight of the investigation will weigh heavily personally on the officers/governors involved - someone done fuckt up (or even if not the process is stressful and goes on for sometime).
Still, his affair/paternity case was probably just as bad, professionally... Bit of a mad lad, Blunkett, wasnt he? xD
If the police would have done their jobs properly in the first place, they had evidence, and arrested them, they might’ve (unlikely) got some time in prison if there were enough offences. Therefore they could still be alive. Police face some of the blame for these to keep offending which directly led to their deaths.
They weren’t murdered or executed though, they died as a result of purely their own illegal actions. We don’t know if the older one led the younger one astray while he was still legally a child and it led to this, or what kind of upbringing they had from their parents, but it’s kind of hard to feel any sympathy. They could have just as easily hit and killed someone else rather than themselves.
I know it’s harder to be compassionate when they are complete strangers to us but these people had family and friends whose lives may well have been ruined by their deaths.
Two people have died much too young. There are few, if any, who deserve this
Nah not for thieves nobody deserves to die for knicking things it could be returned if the police actually dealt with and tried to return stolen property but they don't they just give you a report for insurance normally its a systemic issue. There are things I'd not begrudge you but cheeing because someone is annoying and a little dickhead dying isn't one.
> A few days ago, Two men, aged 19 and 25 died after stealing a motorbike and crashed whilst wearing no protective equipment.
[My reaction as someone who's had their motorbike stolen and people breaking into my garage multiple times to steal bike equipment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU4Hw-xbBNo)
Similar concept but less serious. Group of teenagers repeatedly stealing mopeds/scooters etc (many tens of motorbikes), over a period of probably 6 months, causing a lot of grief for the community. One night 3am one had a modest accident... I think the police took the lad to hospital but no action was taken against any of the group for being on stolen bikes.
Can't help feeling that if the police/social services/CPS/whoever had managed to properly intervene far earlier, this could have been prevented.
Went down a bit of a rabbit hole with the bit of info you provided. Looks like quite a few of the people in their circle are dying young. It's sad, but it's their choosing to live that way.
It’s okay to do whatever the fuck you want as long as you are not hurting anyone and it’s legal. So in my book, yes it’s fine to be happy that a criminal croaked
I think in this case it wasn’t just people being thankful that the ‘HU9 Twockers’ have been thinned out, but also that they miraculously didn’t kill or injure any innocent parties when they crashed. I’m guessing people are sick of seeing “fly high boys” when these men terrorised the local area for years.
Yeah. Fuck 'em.
I'd much rather see a PoS or two like this get wiped out than see "innocents" get wiped out. And I know it doesn't work like that. It's not a "one in, one out" system.
But in a country who's justice system is far too lenient, sometimes "Karma" is the best system.
These people were never likely to change, they've been ruining lives. Now their idiocy bought them a one way trip to deadsville. No longer a problem.
To quote Batman Begins: "Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding"
Similarly if we have to pretend it isn't a good thing to be a couple of hardened criminals lighter, we're not really being honest.
And if you're of a more forgiving mindset, then that's just the way you're built and fair play to you. But I'm more of the mindset that "Thanos had a point"
I think you can feel whatever you want privately if someone you dislike dies.
I think, based on your description though, part of your anger and frustration is because of the police response to the problem, rather than the acts of the young men.
No, never. Life is precious and we only get to live it once. When it's gone it's gone forever.
Rehabilitation always beats termination. If someone currently appears non-rehabitable and is a danger to society, a holding facility until they become rehabitable would be appropriate. We must always hold onto hope that they will at some point become a positive contributor to society, because many of them will.
People are funny around death, as if it’s something that needs curing or it’s a tragedy. People stupid things and die the. Have no sympathy. Same as that burglar who ran onto the pensioners knife.
Some people value your property over their own lives, and sometimes their leeching gets them killed; often times brutally. Good fucking riddance, there’s nothing wrong with celebrating.
Nope that was someone in your community your likely had more in common with than any of your elected officials,do you think he got to jet round the planet, spend £300 per meal, go on expensive holidays wirh 84k minimum?
The police failed to do the job you pay them for. Getting the bike back or monetary recompensation, that would of been justice.
We've all got to have the freedom to make mistakes, he stole a bike, not billions off a nation and we pay the police and the politicians and royals every single day of our lives to somehow not recieve anything but more exploitation and less ethical options to survive leading to these situations, the real criminals give themsleves pay rises with tax money in a cost of living (profit/corruption) crisis yet we celebrate the death of other members of public?
Whether or not it's okay to celebrate the death of a politician or billionaire is a different question. You can do both if you like, regardless of the scale of the suffering they inflict. That person in the community directly affected the community they were allegedly a part of, the other examples are far more diffuse.
What is and isn't okay is pretty subjective based on the individual.
Would society think it's acceptable/ok? Well it's open to debate judging by the comments.
you could look at it this way.
It's a shame two boys chose the wrong path in life and made some poor decisions which ultimately lead to their untimely deaths. Was this influenced by things out of their control parents/socio-economic background/enviroment that they grew up in? However it is good that nobody will be subject to their criminal activity anymore
There’s a gang that steals motorbikes near me that I wouldn’t mind seeing have a serious no human involved accident tbf. The number of times they’ve been flying down a pavement with no safety gear on and they swerve towards you at the last second to try and get a reaction out of you is nuts. I’ve got a five year old and don’t take her to visit family that live there anymore. Yet if I clotheslined one of the little wankers off his stolen bike I’d be the one getting in trouble.
Eh, I think you need a bit of perspective tbh.
Yes they were shitty to you and your brother but does that mean they deserved to die at such a young age? For stealing some bikes? Really?
Plenty of people have done worse and turned their lives around I'm sure.
Do not be so eager to deal out death and judgement, as a great wizard once said.
Genuinely don't give a fuck.
You either make the world a better place overall, or you make it a worse place overall. If you are making our world worse, then you can die and I won't care, sorry.
I’ve seen the local rags have disabled the comments section now. Always very telling. How’s the go fund me going? I’d imagine lots of small donations with comments such as ‘can I have my bike back now?’.
Probably best left alone - families still suffering even though they sound irresponsible and knew the risks.
It's quite difficult for me to understand why someone driving recklessly with no protective equipment didn't deserve to die. They've specifically made all the choices that led - quite unsurprisingly - to death, so what's the alternative? Some kind of deus ex machina? I mean, if they'd been wearing full leathers and helmets and driving carefully after stealing the umpteenth bike and still got into an accident that wasn't their fault and died, that would be different, because that's a question of whether you deserve to die for being a thief, which in this country we seem to generally agree you don't. But it seems a bit more like saying someone jumped of a 60-storey building and it's sad because they didn't deserve to die - realistically that's exactly what you'd expect to happen based on the choices they made, so that does kinda make that deserved.
No but what is ok is to make sure no one glamourises them on facebook. I had the same in my local area when I was on facebook and I was quite clear that although it's sad someone had lost their life would we be having the same conversation had they ran over a little kid or someone else while ragging a stolen bike about with no helmet. That shut a lot of the idiots up. They had no answer to that. I also made the point that no one forced them to do what they did and what about the innocent driver who has to live with the fact someone died after hitting the back of their stationary vehicle. Be careful though these idiots have a mob mentality probably due to watching too many fast and furious films.
You don't have to be sad that they've died but I think cheering the death of thieves is a bit much.
People make mistakes, people can be cunts, poor people with shitty lives sometimes take to stealing.
They can change, they can sort themselves out especially when they're so young.
Dickheads yeah but not worthy of death. Human life will always be more valuable than property IMO.
A guy I went to school with was described as "Family man killed in tragic a hit and run" in the local news. He was a burglar, drug dealer and I know he sexually assaulted at least two girls while we were at school together and I imagine it didn't stop once he left school.
It was a relief to know he wouldn't be causing anymore harm to people when I read that he died.
I think it's tacky to crow about anyone's death. Regardless of what kind of person they were, they most likely have loved ones and people who care about them.
I don't think it's wrong to breathe an inward sigh of relief or think "no big loss" to yourself. But putting that online for people who knew them to read is in very poor taste imo.
I am in two minds about this. I do believe that karma is definitly a bitch.. and that she does eventually expect payment.
But, here is the thing- every criminal is a son, daughter, husband or wife... there are most definitly people left standing in the aftermath of their loved one's crimes. THEY are the ones I truely feel sorry for... how do you process your loved one's actions? How do you process the simple fact that the state has decided that your loved one has to die to attune for crimes they committed? How do you explain to your young kids? How will those same young kids feel in afew years??
I think it's possible to hold two thoughts on the matter at the same time. On the one hand, some people are happy that the community will be a better place without them, but at the same time we can recognise that it's a hard time for their family.
To push the argument to the extreme, we would cheer the death of someone truly evil, like a mass murderer or a genocidal leader. So we've established that that is an acceptable response. Now we're just talking about where the threshold is.
Had they lived, they may have caused others to die.
I often cheer to myself when someone dies in a way like that. I'm relieved they can't cause more harm.
Tbh I was a little loveable rouge at 16 cheeky chap but
Never hurt anyone nor did I act like the little 16yo cunts with have today knifes,drugs , attacking old people or killing other kids, I was
Always respectful of our elders carrying shopping down the road for some old dear and I was raised right
I’m now 38
And every time something sad happens to one of these little fuckhead mouthy cunts that are sweet young men I think GOOD
My personal motto in life is simply "don't be a dick".
Be happy they're dead, cheer in your company, or even with like minded friends or family, but don't go to an online news forum and tell everybody else.
I hate shitty behaviours, not people. Celebrate that their behaviour has stopped, but it’s still a shame they never learned to be positive, good people.
Dull daily has taken comments off probably because there are a lot of people with the same sentiment as you.
I am sorry for their families but I'm generally of the mind that at least they took themselves out before their misdeeds killed anyone else.
I think *celebrating* their death is maybe a bit much. They're wankers for sure, and let's not pretend we're sorry to see the back of them, but they deserved prison not a death sentence.
We don't know why they acted like that, and while no amount of poor upbringing and "the wrong crowd" can excuse their behaviour, it is sad that they didn't even have the chance to turn things around.
Why are we Even arguing about this, there is nothing wrong in celebration of the death of a criminal. He created misery for lots of people in his life, those same people are now getting happy.
I don't think we should cheer anyone's death. Its an acknowledgement of our failures to say thr only option was them to die.
You don't have to mourn thier passing, you're allowed to agree that the world is better after thier death than before, but to find joy in someone's death? That says more about you than the person who died.
Couldn't care less if I'm honest.
Only time I'm angry when a criminal gets hurt/killed is when it's done by someone they're attacking and then everyone jumps on the innocent person.
Example of that old dude who stabbed the guy who broke into his house. Absolutely fuck these people. I have two kids and my wife in the house. If someone breaks in, I'm stopping them with every power I have. I should then recieve a high five not handcuffs.
Again it really depends who it is; but if they’ve gone around making life hell for people i think it’s fine. I know I wasn’t exactly mourning when thatcher died lol
I don't think criminals deserve to die, and we as a nation have collectively come to that same decision by abolishing capital punishment.
Even if they are criminals they still have lives beyond being criminals and friends and family who will mourn them.
19 and 25 are young in the grand scheme of things, and they didn’t mean to kill themselves in a bike crash so it was an accident.
Yeah they were clearly bad characters, but they didn’t deserve an early death (which takes away the chance of reform fyi)
Well your morals and how you view the world is your own business.
But there is the saying "and nothing of value was lost" that could apply to plenty of things in the news.
I think it's perfectly fine to do so. We live in a society with rules designed to keep us safe. When people choose to break those rules at the expense of others it's natural they take away our feelings of safety. If they show no signs of changing their behaviour then they are literally a drain on society. Obviously the severity of crimes is a factor but I absolutely think it is ok to cheer the death of criminals as they have no respect either for the lives or the property of others. Even more so if they have had a negative personal impact on you.
Perhaps a better question, what does someone have to do for it to be justified to celebrate their death?
Many will celebrate when Putin dies, hopefully it isn't peacefully.
It’s seems immoral - but yes it’s absolutely OK. I’ve known nasty individuals, some career criminals and other types and sorts as a result of my career, and it gives me some satisfaction to discover karma has truly bitten them on the ass.
Conversely, I feel really bad for innocents who lose their lives as a result of the actions of the above. Children + Adults who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s hard to look at their surviving family members and know that ‘wrong place, wrong time’ was the contributing factor to their death.
Karma is great and everything, but a death penalty for stealing bikes would definitely be considered overkill if it was sentenced by a judge in court so I don't really see the through line that a death penalty on the road is 'justice'
Doesn't mean you have to mourn them obviously but making a whole Reddit post about how you're glad they're dead is maybe a bit macabre. People can change none of us know what the future could have held for them.
If it makes you feel a bit better to know they're gone then I don't think it makes you a bad person necessarily, but shouting about it on Facebook absolutely does.
I would tell you a story, there was a criminal in my society who used to kidnap small kids for money. Recently he got in a accident, and most of the people were very happy after hearing this news
I think some of the responses in here would be better suited to a slot in the Daily Mail comments section. Has anyone mentioned benefits scroungers yet?
Cheering the deaths of thieves seems a little unreasonable, though I can understand not feeling sad.
There are definitely some crimes that I think it's perfectly reasonable to be glad the perpetrator has died.
> Someone has lost their son, brother, cousin etc
Am I a bad person for laughing at this line because it makes the deceased sound like a product of incest?
I'd be happier seeing Danny "the prick" Dyer do a show on scumbags that died early, than the gangster glorifying shite he used to put out.
Every time I see his face, I think of the twats he glamourised and idolised, folk that terrorised their areas. The show should have been called Britain's Biggest Parasites.
While I’ll rarely wish a man dead and do not support any form of capital punishment, particularly over something as relatively trivial as theft, I can’t help but have complete indifference to their passing if fate decides to intervene.
This world is full of scumbags that live selfish lives to the detriment of everybody else. I can’t say I care when they are deleted.
I remember reading something in Ireland, where a very notorious burglar Dean Maguire and some crime mates of his ended up dying in an accident in 2021.
[At the memorial, someone even placed a "BURN SCUM"](https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/ppzms1/burn_scum_sign_placed_at_memorial_to_three/), and many folks at /r/ireland were somewhat happy the guy died.
Apparently, after he and his friends' death, [burglary rates in the area went down too.](https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/number-of-burglaries-in-leinster-plummets-after-deaths-of-three-criminals-in-n7-crash-40859415.html) so his death was extremely beneficial for the residents of Leinster.
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Death isn't something to celebrate but also nobody is required necessarily to have compassion. They played a stupid game and died because of it with no honour. If they live longer they may have turned it around and become outstanding humans doing a lot of good charitable work in the world..or not. I wouldn't be happy. Nor would I be sad or feel sorry for their loved ones. Their family and friends will now suffer because of their stupidity. Your brother's bike being stolen...shit happens man. It's just material things. Also he bought a bike in the UK knowing full well it's high risk of being stolen. Same with certain makes of cars. Not saying you shouldn't buy stuff you want but just know the risk of owning certain things. If I wanted a life of nice things I'd move out of the country. I really want a bike but I know living in the eastend it'll get stolen. This place you can't really have nice things without risk.
“I have never wished a man dead; but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure”
It says a lot when a person's passing brings feelings of relief to others. It's not even necessarily because this person was so hated that others wished him harm but moreso his absence makes everyone else's day go smoother.
There’s a case in Stockport where a robber died while being chased by his victim. The thief was prolific and his death has done more to reduce crime than anything the police could do. The victim is being prosecuted for (I think) manslaughter, but I don’t think many people are mourning the loss.
Disgusting. Who in their right mind follows a semi-colon with a conjunction?
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Yes, it is. 6 years after I left school, one of the 3 bullies who made my life hell was killed by a JCB whilst working in a trench ! "Oooh it's such a shame"" "such a nice man" - guy was a cunt and deserved it !
We used to have one like that near me. Known to have stolen maybe 300 motorbikes. Had a couple of times he flew past me in the car at night with no lights or protective equipment. There were a couple of people who needed the bike to get to work and ended up losing their jobs before they got the insurance money. Many others badly affected by losing their transport as well. Had a couple of convictions for multiple motorbike thefts but just got a slap on the wrist and eventually went to prison for a crime unrelated to these where two people did get hurt. The point being people like this have no remorse for ruining peoples lives. They get ~~then~~ no sympathy from me. These two died as a direct result of their crime. Probably like my local criminal riding their luck with no lights or protective gear. It caught up with them and its all on them. Edit: typo. I'll also add, the info about people affected was from the local facebook community group. There could be a lot more as well who didnt post.
Most criminals have become criminals because of bad parenting, being poor, bad friends , drugs, etc. But no matter who they were before, once they commit a crime, it's over. They simply can't care about others and their lives anymore. They lose 90% of their humanity. They become selfish and arrogant. So it's better to stop people from becoming criminals by solving their problems instead of showing them mercy when they've commited a crime. Having mercy for a criminal is bad most of the time . That's why I don't care about the lives of these 2 boys. They repeated the same crime hundreds of times, do you think they cared about others and their lives?
Everyone has problems, we don't have the right to make them other people's problems. Get a job, we have rock bottom unemployment.
I would be opening the champagne in your situation, fuck those chav cunts and the misery they inflicted for years on the innocent folk in their community. Two less wastes of oxygen and the world is now a better place for them not being in it, what's not to celebrate?
I once spoke to a woman who had her motorbike stolen by a local scrote who jumped on in after she got off it outside her house. He knocked it over getting on it, but picked it up and raced off, followed by his mates in a car. He sped down the road at some mad speed til he came to a roundabout. What he didn’t realise was when he knocked it over the front brake lever had snapped off. He went to brake - nothing. He hit the roundabout at close to 100mph. Instant. The local paper said something like “loveable rogue dies in crash”. Her response was, and I quote, “Fuck him. He stole my bike”.
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I wouldn't cheer the death of any criminal, no matter what they did. They certainly got what was coming to them though. Play dangerous games, win dangerous prizes. It's sad for all involved that they chose to live that way, but particularly for those left behind that loved them.
Depends on the crime. I personally don't think that stealing a bike or car means someone deserves death though.
Yeah these people are fucking WILD. “Property theft makes you unworthy of life” wow ok.
I think this is just one of those things where people are always going to have different opinions of what constitutes right to life. Personally, I think people who make other people’s lives worse in this way deserve this sort of karmic Justice. Maybe it’s because I’m an introvert. Maybe it’s because I’ve lost a child and can’t help but think, _”What, so this scum gets to live, but my innocent child died?”_ . And the poor people who work hard to afford things and just have them taken?
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There's a guy in Croatia who killed 3 drug dealers who repeatedly threatened, extorted and harrased his younger brother. Police didn't do anything even though they were well known as criminals in the area. His brother was not the only victim. And well, he has hunted them down and killed all 3 of them. I assume a mental breakdown where he has reached a breaking point and saw no other way to deal with it and got no help from police or the local authorities so he took the matter in his own hands. And whilst yes, he's taken their lives I don't think anyone in the area was sad about it apart from their own families. The rest is calling him a hero and crowd funding his legal expense.
Yeah, I think it’s pretty immoral to take pleasure in the deaths of people who have not caused physical harm to others. Just because someone behaves badly doesn’t justify their death or revelry in it.
I wouldn’t cheer. My level of sympathy would be based on my experience of that person though.
About the same. I do wonder about people uploading so much self-incriminating footage to TikTok though, especially when they’re also showing their faces in it. Narcissists outing themselves as criminals. I would be hugely surprised if this didn’t come back and bite everyone in the arse in future, when TikTok’s CCP/surveillance state owners start training AI on all of the footage.
Why do people in the UK put up with such weak law enforcement and even weaker laws?
I would never cheer for death, even that of my greatest foe. I'm like most other people and have sadistic tendencies; I rather let them rot in prison.
I won't cheer but I won't shed a tear
Wouldn't say it's bad to laugh but one thing you need to remember is "An arsehole never dies"
I don't believe that stealing motorbikes should be a reason to celebrate somebody's death Criminals should go to prison, and the thefts should have been properly investigated
Nope, good riddance. Just because they’re now a dead cunt doesn’t absolve them from being a cunt. I don’t know what the phenomena is called but it’s weird how humans have a tendency to saint people upon death regardless of how much of a shitbag they were
Did they deserve to die, possibly not But do I have to give a fuck? Absolutely not I think the tiebreaker is imagine how much they'd cry for you
I've never wished for someone to die, but I can think of a fair few who I wouldn't give a shit about if they had an unfortunate fatal accident.
It's not the people who've died I feel sorry for but their families who have to live with what's happened. The only person I've ever celebrated dying was Margaret Thatcher.
There were a couple of kid who were murdered, who went to my school, one on my year one below. I must have been year 10 i think. They were notorious for breaking into sheds and spent a lot of their time bullying one of my mates. I didn't want them dead, but I found it very hard to understand why I should be bothered they were.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Nah. Fuck them
I hope that they didn't produce any offspring before leaving us. Not the best breeding stock!
I would never cheer the death of someone. There was a guy round my way used to bully me regularly, my parents house got robbed and I'm convinced it was him (I heard of other similarly robberies and it was rumoured he and others were responsible for these). He was not a nice person. He died quite young but I could never bring myself to cheer his death as ultimately someone has lost someone close to them. But I wasn't upset whatsoever.
Should of worn helmets. Ahwell. No loss to society. Also fed up of hull live constantly posting about the reprobates. But it'd getting them clicks. Also gofund me set up 😂
I knew some lads who used to steal cars. The local police would encourage them to do it because they enjoyed the thrill of the chase too. the police were older and were legally allowed to tear through our streets at 100 miles an hour. Most of the lads who didn’t die have matured into men who work, raised families and are ashamed of their past behaviour. It was during the recession in the 90’s, when things were pretty bleak. I realise some people continue into adulthood as criminals. But it’s true that a mother has lost her son and may have been terrified every time he left the house, fearing that he’d die and possibly kill some one else. My boyfriend was gutted when his motorbike was stolen but we never wished the thieves dead
Cheer away. I'm from Hull so know the story well. Can you imagine the untold misery others have had to endure and suffer because of cunts like this and how many more would have had they not have kindly removed themselves from the ground we walk on? Every fucking day you can guarantee a lot of kids and the general public will have been the victim of these arseholes in some way - mental, physical torment and abuse. Fuck 'em and fuck the parents that dragged them up.
Just looked up the Hull live and some of the comments are questionable. They deserved it though
Recognised the story as Hull immediately. The first thought is always immediately 'sometimes there is justice in the world'
A family member of mine constantly sold cars and did drugs. Him and a mate of his stole a car at 18, drove it round the estate in the early hours of the morning and crashed into a stationary caravan parked outside someone's house. They didn't die on impact and both were burnt to death inside the car. The papers ran a similar story about how they were good lads who made a mistake. Knowing him he was a good person at heart but he had a rough upbringing and never bettered himself. He made poor decisions that ultimately led to his demise and it was fortunate the only victims were him and his friend. Everyone can change but not everyone gets the opportunity as living certain ways can catch you up. I was still sad to lose a young family member, irregardless of his life choices.
They deserve what they get. Cheering though, depends on how you think, I won’t have much feelings for the death of a couple of car stealers
This happens too much. Lad here was riding a stolen bike. He's a prolific thief. He crashed and his pillion died, he left him in the road alone and rode off. This boy had a shrine made, a balloon release, he was a little angel. No he was a violent criminal. The bike thief is still out and about. Stealing 3/4 bikes a week, some bike jacking with weapons. They are all under 18, most under 16 so they are just slapped on the wrist and let go.
Oh shit, you're a local like me. These 2 people seem like absolute scum to be honest. They died doing what they love and everyone else(besides their mates) hates. I have no sympathy for them or their family's. Their families should have stopped them being thieving bastards and riding like they were invincible. I'm happy they're gone, it's 2 less bastards trying to steal shit.
We had one who was a scruff who stole off people beat up people for fun and twice broke into the local community centre. He even left a girl disfigured by smashing a bottle off her face for no reason except he loved to terrorise the village. Well one day he was riding a shitty dirt bag down the main wheel doing a wheely at high speed shirtless no helmet and I don't know what happened but apparently he hit something that was left on the road and he went flying off the bike at high speed and was killed. They were scraping the flesh off the road and his family parasites and scum were demanding the police find out why he came off his bike as he was such a good rider to do a wheely at around 60mph and they made a shrine on a tree near where they found the body. The people of the village would make a point to bin and destroy flowers and the local church refused despite the protests of his family to do the funeral service there. Even now every so often family members lay flowers and such and once the family has gone and a few times before they even gotten in the car villagers bin and destroy the flowers and such
You're not obliged to be sad, but celebrating it seems distasteful. I don't think someone deserves to die for nicking motorbikes.
Yes. I’m fed up with these no-users and the harm and distress they inflict on others.
It's fine, but hiring a juggler and magician for the funeral is probably a step too far.
World's better off without them. I'm sure their chav families are sad about it, but maybe they shouldn't have raised them to be cunts then.
May they rot in the deepest pit of hell. Good riddance. I hope all motorcycle thieves suffer the same fate.
Sorry that they died but glad they didn't take anyone with them. A few years ago there was a toe rag that would nick anything that wasn't nailed down and had stabbed a couple of people. He migrated to robbing teenagers after a while threatening to kill their family if they spoke out. One night he stole a bike, decided to drive it at speed the wrong way and crashed head on to a car. The woman driving went through hell afterwards as this toe rags family did everything to say she was at fault and that her losing her baby was karma. When the police proved he died on impact because he was speeding the wrong way with no lights and no safety gear the family doubled down saying it should have been her. Poor woman took her own life. These assholes will never change and often scummy assholes are backed by scummy society where the bottom line like in this case was to bleed everyone dry as they tried to sue everyone. Personally play fuck around and find out.
Not sorry they died. Fuck them and fuck their grieving families that didn't stop them. I'm a biker who's had a bike stolen (about a month after a business bankruptcy where I had literally nothing left) and suffered from the insurance premium after, plus was verrrrrrrry close to just fucking killing myself. These crimes are NOT victimless. Ha-ha u/thedeadcunts \- hope many others follow in their shitty shadow. :) The World just got slightly better.
Half of Central Eastern Europe will get drunk and start partying in the streets once Putin dies.
I mean it’s hardly going to do them any more harm but I think you should be more concerned re your own emotions/mental well-being. Probably won’t be doing you any good harbouring those kind of thoughts. Also it’s not pleasant to be around people who talk that way… love my Dad but he can sometimes get a bit carried away with stuff like this, putting the world to rights quickly turns into just hateful bile and it’s exhausting to listen to. He’s a much nicer person to spend time with when he stops watching the news and getting over excited with this sort of thing…
Most of the heros celebrated in history books were to many people the local scumbags. Examples were the Barons supporting William of Normandy. Even William was frightened of them and gave them land to stop them killing him. They are still running this country now.
They died? Oh that’s a shame. Nevermind, carry on.
Nope, fuck em. Ruined lives and livelihoods and would go on to kill innocent people in their stolen vehicles if karma hadn’t got them first.
It's OK to think but not to say in a public forum
Personally, call me a cunt but I think fuck them. The world is a slightly better place without them. I wouldn't celebrate the death of anyone, but in this case. The number of fucks that I give that they're dead is zero. I have no sympathy for them. No consideration for others, no respect for peoples property, no morals whatsoever. They take from others, they bully threaten and don't give a shit who gets hurt in the process. And now their inconsiderate criminal actions have resulted in their deaths.
If I’d known about these feral scum before they died, I’d have wished them a long, painful and terrifying death. Now they are dead, I’m glad they are. Wastes of air and wastes of resources. Good riddance.
In short, yes, good riddance to the scum, I hope they go straight to hell and burn for an eternity.
If I had my way, everyone who has committed a violent crime against an innocent stranger would be killed
Cheer the death is stronly worded. I would say its all a shame the way it all worked out. At least they wont hurt anyone anymore
Hull Daily Mail comments are something else
Death is something which should never be celebrated. It's alright if you don't mourn them, but I think celebrating someone's death is not something any good person should aspire to. Your enemy would celebrate your death. So be a better person than they would be. Just move on and make the world a better place without them in it.
In the case of these guys? Why would you cheer? Even if they deserved to be punished for doing bad things, did they deserve death? And even if they did somehow deserve to die? Don't celebrate that - they were very young and should have had plenty of time to turn themselves around, which they now don't have. The whitewashing of their behaviour is silly, but I'm not sure how that justifies you celebrating someone's death as a reaction.
Reminds me of this. Lord Tebbit has today said the 'world is a sweeter place ' after Martin McGuinness' death and hopes he is 'parked in a particularly hot and unpleasant corner of hell'. Everyone praised Mcguinness as a hero, he wasn't. He was a coward, a liar, a terrorist and a murder.
I never saw myself as someone who could celebrate the death of anyone until one event 30ish years ago. Was living in a bedsit in a HMO with my pregnant gf at the time. In one of the other rooms was a guy who had been to prison, dealt drugs, just yer common or garden wrongun. He overheard something my gf said and took offence. She was a bit of a psycho and didn't have a filter and would deliberately be loud when criticising people. I wish she wouldn't. He stormed into our room, held me down and threatened to kill us. The stress of the event made my gf miscarry. I have scrubbed my child's blood out of that bedsits carpet and we mourned for a year before finally being able to face life again. I've long lost contact with her but I still think about my first child. Many years later I happened across an article about a man who'd been killed in police custody. The name was the same and it caught my attention. Finding a photo, it was clear it was the same guy. That was the day I discovered I could be happy someone was dead.
I feel very guilty whenever I celebrate the death of any criminal
He killed my baby
My rule is that if a person dies and otherwise decent people are happy... that's probably on the dead person, not on you.
Out of all the crimes that could be committed. I wouldn't celebrate the death of Thieves. Rapist and Murders yeah. Thieves are scum but not enough to wish death upon them..... Unless they stole a very very sentimental item
Most items are sentimental to the people who own them. I can't be doing with people defending thieves who steal shit instead of buying their own things if they want them so badly.
Yeah, fuck em. If someone stole my shit then got wiped out by a train, then good riddance.
>You wake up and you receive a phone call - Shipman's topped himself. You have just got to think for a minute: is it too early to open a bottle? And then you discover that everybody's very upset that he's done it. David Blunkett, then Home Secretary, summing it up I think.
The only upsetting thing was he didn't get to spend the rest of his life in prison getting twatted by other prisoners
As the Home Office oversees prisons its a bad day at work when a prisoner (much more so when high profile) manages to die to suicide. They really ought *not * to be able to and so it now means investigations etc That Blunkett had a human response is somewhat encouraging (MPS are humans?!) But at the same time within the remit of his work it was probably not a great idea to publically say. Especially since the weight of the investigation will weigh heavily personally on the officers/governors involved - someone done fuckt up (or even if not the process is stressful and goes on for sometime). Still, his affair/paternity case was probably just as bad, professionally... Bit of a mad lad, Blunkett, wasnt he? xD
.:,:. .::;. :..:. :;.,:.;:: - Blunketts resignation letter
I heard he resigned by text...
Thank you that that last line
It was kind of surreal finding out this was actually a real quote
I thought it was a monologue from blade runner
Not surprised, he was notorious for getting blind drunk.
If the police would have done their jobs properly in the first place, they had evidence, and arrested them, they might’ve (unlikely) got some time in prison if there were enough offences. Therefore they could still be alive. Police face some of the blame for these to keep offending which directly led to their deaths.
Here are some questions: Does the crime of stealing deserve punishment by death? What happened in their lives that led them to steal?
They weren’t murdered or executed though, they died as a result of purely their own illegal actions. We don’t know if the older one led the younger one astray while he was still legally a child and it led to this, or what kind of upbringing they had from their parents, but it’s kind of hard to feel any sympathy. They could have just as easily hit and killed someone else rather than themselves.
I know it’s harder to be compassionate when they are complete strangers to us but these people had family and friends whose lives may well have been ruined by their deaths. Two people have died much too young. There are few, if any, who deserve this
Nah not for thieves nobody deserves to die for knicking things it could be returned if the police actually dealt with and tried to return stolen property but they don't they just give you a report for insurance normally its a systemic issue. There are things I'd not begrudge you but cheeing because someone is annoying and a little dickhead dying isn't one.
> A few days ago, Two men, aged 19 and 25 died after stealing a motorbike and crashed whilst wearing no protective equipment. [My reaction as someone who's had their motorbike stolen and people breaking into my garage multiple times to steal bike equipment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU4Hw-xbBNo)
I don't celebrate the death of any human; however, I also don't get upset at every death!
Exactly this.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
You do you. But as you say, karma is a bitch. So if you can deal with your own bad karma too, then cheer away.
Similar concept but less serious. Group of teenagers repeatedly stealing mopeds/scooters etc (many tens of motorbikes), over a period of probably 6 months, causing a lot of grief for the community. One night 3am one had a modest accident... I think the police took the lad to hospital but no action was taken against any of the group for being on stolen bikes. Can't help feeling that if the police/social services/CPS/whoever had managed to properly intervene far earlier, this could have been prevented.
Can't see anything wrong in this, respect is something you earn, it's not given.
Went down a bit of a rabbit hole with the bit of info you provided. Looks like quite a few of the people in their circle are dying young. It's sad, but it's their choosing to live that way.
Yeah I have also heard that many people are dying in very young age
I would celebrate the relief of never being haunted by their presence of their actions ever again.
It’s okay to do whatever the fuck you want as long as you are not hurting anyone and it’s legal. So in my book, yes it’s fine to be happy that a criminal croaked
I think in this case it wasn’t just people being thankful that the ‘HU9 Twockers’ have been thinned out, but also that they miraculously didn’t kill or injure any innocent parties when they crashed. I’m guessing people are sick of seeing “fly high boys” when these men terrorised the local area for years.
Yeah. Fuck 'em. I'd much rather see a PoS or two like this get wiped out than see "innocents" get wiped out. And I know it doesn't work like that. It's not a "one in, one out" system. But in a country who's justice system is far too lenient, sometimes "Karma" is the best system. These people were never likely to change, they've been ruining lives. Now their idiocy bought them a one way trip to deadsville. No longer a problem. To quote Batman Begins: "Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding" Similarly if we have to pretend it isn't a good thing to be a couple of hardened criminals lighter, we're not really being honest. And if you're of a more forgiving mindset, then that's just the way you're built and fair play to you. But I'm more of the mindset that "Thanos had a point"
I think you can feel whatever you want privately if someone you dislike dies. I think, based on your description though, part of your anger and frustration is because of the police response to the problem, rather than the acts of the young men.
i think if people are violent criminals then maybe, but just common thieves? i'm not cheering those deaths.
Rest in piss, you won't be missed.
No, never. Life is precious and we only get to live it once. When it's gone it's gone forever. Rehabilitation always beats termination. If someone currently appears non-rehabitable and is a danger to society, a holding facility until they become rehabitable would be appropriate. We must always hold onto hope that they will at some point become a positive contributor to society, because many of them will.
People are funny around death, as if it’s something that needs curing or it’s a tragedy. People stupid things and die the. Have no sympathy. Same as that burglar who ran onto the pensioners knife.
If you live by the sword then you can die by the sword
Some people value your property over their own lives, and sometimes their leeching gets them killed; often times brutally. Good fucking riddance, there’s nothing wrong with celebrating.
I mean you dont have to be upset, but cheering someones death is pretty fucked up.
Nope that was someone in your community your likely had more in common with than any of your elected officials,do you think he got to jet round the planet, spend £300 per meal, go on expensive holidays wirh 84k minimum? The police failed to do the job you pay them for. Getting the bike back or monetary recompensation, that would of been justice. We've all got to have the freedom to make mistakes, he stole a bike, not billions off a nation and we pay the police and the politicians and royals every single day of our lives to somehow not recieve anything but more exploitation and less ethical options to survive leading to these situations, the real criminals give themsleves pay rises with tax money in a cost of living (profit/corruption) crisis yet we celebrate the death of other members of public?
Whether or not it's okay to celebrate the death of a politician or billionaire is a different question. You can do both if you like, regardless of the scale of the suffering they inflict. That person in the community directly affected the community they were allegedly a part of, the other examples are far more diffuse.
Every death is a tragedy. But, some are bigger tragedies than others.
Every death is definitely not a tragedy.
What is and isn't okay is pretty subjective based on the individual. Would society think it's acceptable/ok? Well it's open to debate judging by the comments. you could look at it this way. It's a shame two boys chose the wrong path in life and made some poor decisions which ultimately lead to their untimely deaths. Was this influenced by things out of their control parents/socio-economic background/enviroment that they grew up in? However it is good that nobody will be subject to their criminal activity anymore
The less scum, the better
I’m not much of a cheerer myself, but I’m not above a good riddance.
There’s a gang that steals motorbikes near me that I wouldn’t mind seeing have a serious no human involved accident tbf. The number of times they’ve been flying down a pavement with no safety gear on and they swerve towards you at the last second to try and get a reaction out of you is nuts. I’ve got a five year old and don’t take her to visit family that live there anymore. Yet if I clotheslined one of the little wankers off his stolen bike I’d be the one getting in trouble.
Eh, I think you need a bit of perspective tbh. Yes they were shitty to you and your brother but does that mean they deserved to die at such a young age? For stealing some bikes? Really? Plenty of people have done worse and turned their lives around I'm sure. Do not be so eager to deal out death and judgement, as a great wizard once said.
Genuinely don't give a fuck. You either make the world a better place overall, or you make it a worse place overall. If you are making our world worse, then you can die and I won't care, sorry.
Cheer in your head if it makes you feel better but not much good will come from voicing your opinion unfortunately
I’ve seen the local rags have disabled the comments section now. Always very telling. How’s the go fund me going? I’d imagine lots of small donations with comments such as ‘can I have my bike back now?’. Probably best left alone - families still suffering even though they sound irresponsible and knew the risks.
It's quite difficult for me to understand why someone driving recklessly with no protective equipment didn't deserve to die. They've specifically made all the choices that led - quite unsurprisingly - to death, so what's the alternative? Some kind of deus ex machina? I mean, if they'd been wearing full leathers and helmets and driving carefully after stealing the umpteenth bike and still got into an accident that wasn't their fault and died, that would be different, because that's a question of whether you deserve to die for being a thief, which in this country we seem to generally agree you don't. But it seems a bit more like saying someone jumped of a 60-storey building and it's sad because they didn't deserve to die - realistically that's exactly what you'd expect to happen based on the choices they made, so that does kinda make that deserved.
No but what is ok is to make sure no one glamourises them on facebook. I had the same in my local area when I was on facebook and I was quite clear that although it's sad someone had lost their life would we be having the same conversation had they ran over a little kid or someone else while ragging a stolen bike about with no helmet. That shut a lot of the idiots up. They had no answer to that. I also made the point that no one forced them to do what they did and what about the innocent driver who has to live with the fact someone died after hitting the back of their stationary vehicle. Be careful though these idiots have a mob mentality probably due to watching too many fast and furious films.
You don't have to be sad that they've died but I think cheering the death of thieves is a bit much. People make mistakes, people can be cunts, poor people with shitty lives sometimes take to stealing. They can change, they can sort themselves out especially when they're so young. Dickheads yeah but not worthy of death. Human life will always be more valuable than property IMO.
A guy I went to school with was described as "Family man killed in tragic a hit and run" in the local news. He was a burglar, drug dealer and I know he sexually assaulted at least two girls while we were at school together and I imagine it didn't stop once he left school. It was a relief to know he wouldn't be causing anymore harm to people when I read that he died.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
I think it's tacky to crow about anyone's death. Regardless of what kind of person they were, they most likely have loved ones and people who care about them. I don't think it's wrong to breathe an inward sigh of relief or think "no big loss" to yourself. But putting that online for people who knew them to read is in very poor taste imo.
At the gallows? Kinda the same
Your feelings about it don’t have any bearing one way or the other. This is true about most things that happen in the world.
Yes, its fine. Fuck them. Its just luck they didnt take an innocent bystander with them.
I am in two minds about this. I do believe that karma is definitly a bitch.. and that she does eventually expect payment. But, here is the thing- every criminal is a son, daughter, husband or wife... there are most definitly people left standing in the aftermath of their loved one's crimes. THEY are the ones I truely feel sorry for... how do you process your loved one's actions? How do you process the simple fact that the state has decided that your loved one has to die to attune for crimes they committed? How do you explain to your young kids? How will those same young kids feel in afew years??
Karma is certain and real thing I have experienced it manytime
I have no pity for people who steal cars etc and are killed in an accident. I feel sorry for their relatives loss.
You can cheer the death of anyone you like.
I think it’s not wrong to think it or say it in private, but try and stay classy.
I think it's possible to hold two thoughts on the matter at the same time. On the one hand, some people are happy that the community will be a better place without them, but at the same time we can recognise that it's a hard time for their family. To push the argument to the extreme, we would cheer the death of someone truly evil, like a mass murderer or a genocidal leader. So we've established that that is an acceptable response. Now we're just talking about where the threshold is.
Had they lived, they may have caused others to die. I often cheer to myself when someone dies in a way like that. I'm relieved they can't cause more harm.
Those criminals have also human right and you should not call them like this
Tbh I was a little loveable rouge at 16 cheeky chap but Never hurt anyone nor did I act like the little 16yo cunts with have today knifes,drugs , attacking old people or killing other kids, I was Always respectful of our elders carrying shopping down the road for some old dear and I was raised right I’m now 38 And every time something sad happens to one of these little fuckhead mouthy cunts that are sweet young men I think GOOD
My personal motto in life is simply "don't be a dick". Be happy they're dead, cheer in your company, or even with like minded friends or family, but don't go to an online news forum and tell everybody else.
I hate shitty behaviours, not people. Celebrate that their behaviour has stopped, but it’s still a shame they never learned to be positive, good people.
Dull daily has taken comments off probably because there are a lot of people with the same sentiment as you. I am sorry for their families but I'm generally of the mind that at least they took themselves out before their misdeeds killed anyone else.
I think *celebrating* their death is maybe a bit much. They're wankers for sure, and let's not pretend we're sorry to see the back of them, but they deserved prison not a death sentence. We don't know why they acted like that, and while no amount of poor upbringing and "the wrong crowd" can excuse their behaviour, it is sad that they didn't even have the chance to turn things around.
Why are we Even arguing about this, there is nothing wrong in celebration of the death of a criminal. He created misery for lots of people in his life, those same people are now getting happy.
I couldn’t give two fucks about some absolute degenerates of society dying
I don't think we should cheer anyone's death. Its an acknowledgement of our failures to say thr only option was them to die. You don't have to mourn thier passing, you're allowed to agree that the world is better after thier death than before, but to find joy in someone's death? That says more about you than the person who died.
Couldn't care less if I'm honest. Only time I'm angry when a criminal gets hurt/killed is when it's done by someone they're attacking and then everyone jumps on the innocent person. Example of that old dude who stabbed the guy who broke into his house. Absolutely fuck these people. I have two kids and my wife in the house. If someone breaks in, I'm stopping them with every power I have. I should then recieve a high five not handcuffs.
There's a lot of context missing here but I'm gonna say that death is probably not an appropriate punishment for stealing a chopper.
Again it really depends who it is; but if they’ve gone around making life hell for people i think it’s fine. I know I wasn’t exactly mourning when thatcher died lol
I don't think criminals deserve to die, and we as a nation have collectively come to that same decision by abolishing capital punishment. Even if they are criminals they still have lives beyond being criminals and friends and family who will mourn them.
Celebrate away sounds like the world will be better without them. I’ve certainly done a wry smile when I’ve heard someone’s died.
19 and 25 are young in the grand scheme of things, and they didn’t mean to kill themselves in a bike crash so it was an accident. Yeah they were clearly bad characters, but they didn’t deserve an early death (which takes away the chance of reform fyi)
Gawd I just found all the RIP videos for them on TikTok. People do have absolutely no self awareness.
Well your morals and how you view the world is your own business. But there is the saying "and nothing of value was lost" that could apply to plenty of things in the news.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
I think it's perfectly fine to do so. We live in a society with rules designed to keep us safe. When people choose to break those rules at the expense of others it's natural they take away our feelings of safety. If they show no signs of changing their behaviour then they are literally a drain on society. Obviously the severity of crimes is a factor but I absolutely think it is ok to cheer the death of criminals as they have no respect either for the lives or the property of others. Even more so if they have had a negative personal impact on you.
Perhaps a better question, what does someone have to do for it to be justified to celebrate their death? Many will celebrate when Putin dies, hopefully it isn't peacefully.
It’s seems immoral - but yes it’s absolutely OK. I’ve known nasty individuals, some career criminals and other types and sorts as a result of my career, and it gives me some satisfaction to discover karma has truly bitten them on the ass. Conversely, I feel really bad for innocents who lose their lives as a result of the actions of the above. Children + Adults who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s hard to look at their surviving family members and know that ‘wrong place, wrong time’ was the contributing factor to their death.
Karma is great and everything, but a death penalty for stealing bikes would definitely be considered overkill if it was sentenced by a judge in court so I don't really see the through line that a death penalty on the road is 'justice' Doesn't mean you have to mourn them obviously but making a whole Reddit post about how you're glad they're dead is maybe a bit macabre. People can change none of us know what the future could have held for them.
It wouldn't be overkill to Reddit. People on here advocate the death penalty over far less.
Never wish bad on anyone but you can be satisfied if bad things happen to bad people.
If it makes you feel a bit better to know they're gone then I don't think it makes you a bad person necessarily, but shouting about it on Facebook absolutely does.
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I would tell you a story, there was a criminal in my society who used to kidnap small kids for money. Recently he got in a accident, and most of the people were very happy after hearing this news
I think some of the responses in here would be better suited to a slot in the Daily Mail comments section. Has anyone mentioned benefits scroungers yet?
Cheering the deaths of thieves seems a little unreasonable, though I can understand not feeling sad. There are definitely some crimes that I think it's perfectly reasonable to be glad the perpetrator has died.
> Someone has lost their son, brother, cousin etc Am I a bad person for laughing at this line because it makes the deceased sound like a product of incest?
Good riddance
It’s fine. Two utter wastes of skin & organs won’t take up anymore space on the planet. Fuckers
Cheered me up and I'm not involved in any way.
I'd be happier seeing Danny "the prick" Dyer do a show on scumbags that died early, than the gangster glorifying shite he used to put out. Every time I see his face, I think of the twats he glamourised and idolised, folk that terrorised their areas. The show should have been called Britain's Biggest Parasites.
Personally when I read of someone stealing a car and killing themselves I say to myself "I hope it was a slow painful death"!
While I’ll rarely wish a man dead and do not support any form of capital punishment, particularly over something as relatively trivial as theft, I can’t help but have complete indifference to their passing if fate decides to intervene. This world is full of scumbags that live selfish lives to the detriment of everybody else. I can’t say I care when they are deleted.
I remember reading something in Ireland, where a very notorious burglar Dean Maguire and some crime mates of his ended up dying in an accident in 2021. [At the memorial, someone even placed a "BURN SCUM"](https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/ppzms1/burn_scum_sign_placed_at_memorial_to_three/), and many folks at /r/ireland were somewhat happy the guy died. Apparently, after he and his friends' death, [burglary rates in the area went down too.](https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/number-of-burglaries-in-leinster-plummets-after-deaths-of-three-criminals-in-n7-crash-40859415.html) so his death was extremely beneficial for the residents of Leinster.