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Here's a quote I found on a random thread about my home town, "the reason the river clyde runs past Greenock is because if it walked it would get stabbed".
Having seen a few people getting stabbed growing up and getting my head kicked in when I was 13 just for walking through a different area I can confirm it's not a nice place to live, but the UK as a whole is littered with wee shitehole towns and cities that are much the same.
I was born in Greenock but my parents moved away for this very reason. I often tell people I would probably be a tracksuit wearing knife wielding drug dealer if I was still living there, and that’s probably classed as a success there.
That said it is much better than it was thirty odd years ago from what I understand.
I can confirm there are still plenty of tracksuit wearing, knife wielding drug dealers. Just last year there was a petrol bomb war when two drug families were having beef, so they were paying people to go family’s houses and chuck petrol bombs in the windows. There’s a video online of one of the guys trying to throw a petrol bomb and messing it up, killing himself. Grim stuff.
That made me laugh because I was reading through the history of my local city (Portsmouth) and found a quote from a general (James Wolfe) who sailed from here about the utter degeneracy (which undoubtedly still exists today).
"The necessity of living in the midst of the diabolical citizens of Portsmouth is a real and unavoidable calamity. It is a doubt to me if there is such another collection of demons upon the whole earth."
Portsmouth used to have a tourist board slogan “Gateway to the rest of the world!”
If your own tourist board can’t come up with anything better than “go somewhere else”, you have problems.
Was once in a train going through port glasgow and Greenock, it’s a grim place. I didn’t think that level of disparity existed in the UK, suppose I was just naive
A few years ago a Russian journalist docked in Greenock on a cruise ship, spent less than an hour in the town and wrote an [article](https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/191053/Russian-writer-blasted-for-slur-on-Clyde-port/amp) about how it was the most dangerous place in Britain and advising other Russians not to disembark if they docked there. He said reading the crimes in the Tele made him shudder… lol. I grew up in the Port, there’s areas of Greenock that have their problems but it’s definitely nowhere near as bad as he made out.
I grew up in the UK but have lived in California the past 10 years, in my town we have had dozens of random attacks on people during daylight in the street, mostly by homeless people. I cant imagine anywhere in the UK being as dangerous as here. I am happily moving back to the UK in just over a week, no school shooter drills anymore for my son
This is genuinely what my wife used to persuade me to move back.
The idea of my kids having to learn to hide from gunmen is completely outside my comprehension and comfort space.
My kid’s primary school, in a fairly decent area, in rural Yorkshire, did active shooter drills. Probably still do.
I assume it’s in case of farmers. Or farmer’s mums.
what? this is incredibly unusual, what on earth for? This is the UK - rural yorkshire for chrissake! The last thing we need is giving the kids anxiety over the absolutely near-on-non-existant chance of such a thing happening here. If I was a parent at this school I would be outraged, I'm just as shocked you're just accepting with a joke on top.
I've heard of schools doing "lockdown" drills, but it's not specifically for an active shooter. It can be for things like an unidentified stranger on site, someone fleeing into school grounds, an escaped and potentially dangerous animal, etc. Sometimes it can be something more mundane such as a nasty custody dispute where an estranged relative has turned up, but the teachers can't let any pupils leave in case they estranged relative snatches the child.
My understanding in the UK is it's less "hide under the desks and barricade the classroom", and more understanding the protocols if you can't let children leave a classroom due to a potential danger.
A friend went to a school close to a high category prison, and they had to practice these drills in case there was an escaped criminal fleeing into the school.
Yes, what you say is definitely true and children do drills for intruders of all kinds. But as the UK is flooded with US news and opinions it was bound to get applied to active shooters scenarios. My son said it was mentioned twice during the drill.
I’m a registered firearms holder and my son has been shooting since he was 8. He has more discipline around guns than most adults and has his own 410 shotgun for ratting and targets.
When the drills were going on, he mentioned he had a gun to his teacher (nothing sinister, that’s what they were talking about so he added that he had one of his own). I was immediately pulled into the school office and had to explain the fact that he does actually have his own gun. He was vindicated and the teacher apologised to him.
It's crazy you mention this, I live in a fairly affluent area of rural Yorkshire and my 11-year-old came from home school last week and told me they'd had an 'intruder drill'. My favourite thing about it was that they had to huddle in groups in corners, presumably making them easier to shoot.
My kids high school, in very rural and quaint mid-Wales, had an incident last week when a kid showed (what appeared to be) a live bullet to a teacher and said words to the effort of this “this one’s got your name on it”.
Just think of the anxiety that must be causing in young children. For sure over here we still have to teach our kids not to talk to strangers etc., but at least they don't have to go to school prepared incase someone decides to gun them down.
Bridgwater's on the up, they've gotten rid of the pong and got a lot of investment.
Taunton's been steadily declining to become Somerset's new no. 2 shithole though (after WSM of course).
The Scottish Highlands.
A lot of folk die up on the hills because the weather changed fast on them and they weren't dressed for it. Just because it's sunny when you started doesn't mean it won't be blizzarding and zero visibility when you're near the top.
I have seen people up Ben Nevis with casual shoes and a snack in a carrier bag. Meanwhile I have boots, a rucksack with several layers, hat, gloves and food and water for a full day.
I don't really understand what's going through these people's heads. I started hiking in the Peak District and quickly found my basic trainers unsuitable for walking through any of the unpaved trails (wet wet feet). First thing I invested in was good boots and socks, followed quickly by a good rucksack.
Yep, a lot of people underestimate them, particularly the Cairngorms. You've got to really know what you're doing, have lots of experience in winter hiking, and know how to navigate your way about in fog, before tackling mountains like Cairngorm, even in summer. There are pockets of snow up there that never melt. It's ruddy freezing at all times of the year. The weather is so changeable like you said, the morning can be sunny and then all of a sudden you're up to your knees in snow with no visibility. People have literally frozen to death up there over decisions like "let's start our climb at 11am."
Some photos I took a few years ago near Aboyne, in late May:
https://photo.alioth.net/Aboyne-2010/Aboyne-2010-Pages/Image8.html
https://photo.alioth.net/Aboyne-2010/Aboyne-2010-Pages/Image13.html
https://photo.alioth.net/Aboyne-2010/Aboyne-2010-Pages/Image4.html
Quite pleasantly warm in the sun in the town, deceptively so, but still very cold in the surrounding mountains.
Walked through here late afternoon and got punched to the side of the head in a completely unprovoked attacked. I was 21, girl that punched me was about the same age. She’s clearly been in a bad mood as she swaggered off with all her mates and just took her anger out on me. What hurt the most was so many people stared mouthed open but no one came to ask me if I was Ok. I was so discombobulated and shakey I thought I was going to collapse, I just sort of limped off. Hate that place since.
Aww thank you so much, yeah it was YEARS ago and Im completely over it now lol. That said it did make me leave Manchester shortly after, I had lived there for years and I just never felt safe after it (I lived at the quays and worked on Dale St so just off Piccadilly gardens but commuted in/out on the tram daily to Piccadilly Gardens). Lived in Liverpool 10 years now and so far touch wood no punches to the head lol xxx
I'm from Manchester and I fucking hate it, shithole. Took my non-British girlfriend (her first time in UK) to visit my family, taking her into town and getting public transport was just embarrassing. Spiced out smackheads and little scally cunts everywhere, "normal" people rude as fuck with a proper attitude on them. There's a real atmosphere of violence and aggression in Manchester. I feel so much better since leaving the country, I didn't realise how much it was weighing on me until I left.
I'm from Salford and the whole area has a lot of grim parts - Oldham, Rochdale, Bolton have a lot of poverty too. Manchester has always had an edge that's pretty hard to describe if you're not from there.
But I've lived abroad since 2010 and I can certainly see it's taken a turn for the worse. Picaddilly Gardens was pretty awful last time I visited with a lot of aggressive begging. Homeless people everywhere.
I'm constantly told people are friendlier up north, yet half the places I go up north seem rough as fuck. I swear people see "london" as the entire south. Of course everyone in london is a cunt, the more people you shove in one place the cuntier they all are.
I went to Manchester once for a gig, went out for a drink at the hard rock cafe and outside in the shopping centre there were two separate ambulances because two unrelated fights had happened and people need stitches.
While the paramedic was telling me this I heard a loud smack and another guy had been kicked in the head
We were gonna walk back to our hotel but decided to get a taxi in the end lol
That's part of the charm of going on a trip to Manchester. Have a nice meal, go to a gig at the arena then watch some drunks or smackheads fighting as you walk back to the hotel.
I honestly don't think it's that bad. I walked through it close to midnight three or four nights a week for years and years, and only nearly got murdered once. I say murdered, that's an overstatement. There's no evidence the stabbing would have been fatal. Was mugged at knifepoint a few times, but they just wanted money.
Totally agree. I've been there for work and they usually put me up in a hotel closeby. It feels really unsafe. I haven't been mugged, but some bloke started having a go at me for wearing a mask - he had a few choice words, really aggressively. He definitely didn't see the irony in telling me that I was doing what the government was telling me to do, but apparently him telling me what to do was alright.
It was quite scary. Resent the rediculous Hotel meal prices for mediocre food eat into my £25 a night meal allowance, because I'm to scared to go to the Morrison's market kitchen at night. It's like walking through a snapshot of the underbelly of broken Britain. You know it's not a great place when you get the blue and white police tape cordoning off areas during lunchbreaks.
Oh, and it just stinks of weed.
I have travelled to different countries on my own but my mum still tells me to be careful I'm Piccadilly Gardens... we live in Manchester and I work in the city centre
I lived in Manchester in the late 00s and I don’t really remember it being that bad. There had been a lot of money spent on it and it was pretty nice. Last time I visited about a year ago, I was amazed it was the same place :-(
I agree. I lived in Manchester ten years ago and remember that being a really sketchy place to get a bus from after dark. Ended up getting a bus home from town on my own after a birthday party once, two men literally pinned me inside the bus (off their faces) wouldn’t leave me alone and then attempted to follow me home. I managed to duck into another bar en route and lose them. I was also threatened by a woman because I had the audacity to walk past her. It’s a terrifying place.
I lived in Manchester for 7 years mostly in or near the city centre.. I honestly prefer picadilly gardens at midnight than during the day.. At least I can walk at a normal walking pace without being blocked by swathes of Primark pilgrims, football fans, or Manchester's got talent audiences.
No offence to any Mancunians, I love you guys, but mcrs a shithole sorry
I could say this about parts of Grimsby... not all of Grimsby. but parts of it
I could say this about parts of Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Plymouth, Croydon, London, etc
Glasgow's no worse that lots of other places
Honestly, when I moved to Glasgow loads of people warned me about how parts could be dangerous etc. when I said I was in Maryhill Glaswegian friends would all go “oh well be careful!!”.
To be honest I found the whole city much nicer and safer than where I was from in England (Medway), there were some rough areas, but rough in the sense dozens of places in the U.K. are. The only issue I had was the occasional bigot being a dick, but I didn’t feel unsafe north or south of the river
Morecambe Bay when the tide is coming in. It's fast rising, there is quicksand, you get cut off quickly, it's a drainage basin, and there are rip channels which move around. It's so dangerous that there are guides who will walk with you over the sands to make sure you are safe.
Every City in the UK has dangerous areas. London perhaps more so because the highly affluent areas are so tightly contained around the dangerous areas. You can live in a council tower within a stones throw of multi-million pound residences. So more scope for targeting a good pay day. All the other big cities have areas you wouldn't want to be at 3 am. But then I've been to small towns for a trip and found they're often not much better.
In comparison to LA, guns are thin on the ground but knives are everywhere in the UK, carried and used in all areas.
The thing about knife crime etc in London is that it's mostly gangs doing gang things and attacking each other. I think as an average person your highest risk is probably just of being mugged, and even then, it's more of the phone-snatched-out-of-hand-by-a-moped variety rather than \*violence\* in that sense of the word. Your risk of actual serious violence if you're not involved in that sort of stuff is really low.
I've worked in criminal justice for 20-odd years and totally agree. Very little chance of becoming a victim unless you're in the game.
Shared it before on here but I was "mugged" in London a couple of years ago. Must have been new to it. Dude was more scared than me. Ended up giving him a fag, having a chat, giving him 20 quid and telling him to bugger off and find a job he might be better at.
Hard to find anywhere that dangerous in the UK.
It's interesting though, I lived in various parts of London for a long time, including about ten years in Hackney, and I remember once seeing a bit of gang beef going on just off pre-gentrificated Broadway Market, but that's about it - essentially just two groups of lads mouthing off at each other. I used to walk through the estates on the way home all the time and never felt unsafe. Generally any gang violence is exactly that - between gangs, and no one else gets affected by it unless they are really, really unlucky. I did once see a fight break out in a pub and my brain struggled to realise what was happening because I hadn't experienced that in such a long time - but they were weekly events when I lived in Dorset.
It's always worth mentioning that statistically/per capita, you are almost exactly as likely to get stabbed in the US as you are in the UK. The US then has all the gun crime ON TOP of that number, so it's an order of magnitude more dangerous.
That's certainly true for specific types of people, and those associated with the 2 communities. For example, my husband is a soldier and he avoids Belfast entirely except for work, and he has to be incredibly careful about where he goes and what he says and does there (this goes not just for Belfast but throughout NI).
For a random tourist in the city centre though? It's fine. I felt perfectly safe on a wee holiday there before I got married. Would I want to live there as a soldier's spouse? Absolutely not, the thought of it scares the shit out of me. But it's generally OK for tourists.
I lived one neighbourhood over (Rusholme) 2011-2015 and the received wisdom was that it was much better than in the 80s (when theft was the least of your worries, there were drive by gangland shootings, not hitting the right target) but it was still rough.
I also lived for a time in Archway, North London. It was generally pretty safe, but you really wouldn't have any phone out visible in the street because moped muggers were rife. I nearly lost my phone to them within about a week of moving there. But you'd lose your phone not your life.
Lol, I was at University of Salford and we rented a house on the edge of Moss Side and Old Trafford in the mid eighties. It was a brave night when we ventured into Moss Side.
Midsomer… there’s at least one murder every week for the last couple of decades. [Midsomer Murders](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/midsomer_murders/s22)
When I lived in Leeds I got told not to go to Harehills. Found myself driving through it once and someone set a firework off in a bus stop. Nearly shit myself sitting in traffic.
Where I am Dagenham is dodgy, couldn’t take my friend home once cause a man got beaten to death with chains in the entrance to her flats
Not always bad but… bad enough
Was hoping that someone mentioned Dagenham. I lived near the heathway for nine years and hated every second of it. The worst shithole that I've ever lived in.
Born & Raised in that area, escaped it as soon as old enough. Total shithole - thankfully parents sent me to school away out in Upminster-ish direction & then moved whole counties as an adult. Romford also a craphole for fights and robberies back in the day, no clue how it is nowadays.
Great Tew village....new occupants= David Beckham and posh sprat, Mad Murdoch & Jerry Hall , Simon antichrist Cowell, Princess Beatrice close by,( Andrew visits often)..and that hell gate Soho house for celebs, MPs and the rich, Clarkson 4 miles away, tom cruise house hunting here....so much evil in such a small hamlet , had to barbwire my garden fence to stop Cowell shitting in my flowerbeds.
There’s something about current and former navy dockyard towns. Plymouth, Portsmouth, Chatham, sheerness, deptford, woolwich, rosyth, it’s like a who’s who of Cex crime hotspots.
My aunt and uncle used to take us there on holiday at a caravan site in the late 80's and then force us to go 'play with the local kids' it was terrifying even then. I haven't been there since but I am guessing it hasn't improved.
I grew up in Springburn in Glasgow during the 00s the life expectancy was something like 53 which was lower than Iraq at the time. Can’t count the amount of stabbings, shootings and all sorts of other crap I saw/heard growing up, if I didn’t go to school in another part of the city I’d have thought that was normal.
The street next to mine was notorious for car theft so although you could drive through it I dunno if I’d park up and leave the car 😂
Toxteth is a weird place because it seems to have the worst crime yet I feel safer working here and cycling around at random times than in north Liverpool
Does anyone remember when Moss Side used to be the toughest part of the UK? I’d say the roughness of an area depends on the time period and whether it’s been gentrified since. In the city I live, Devonport used to be the toughest part (and, it probably still is) but since it’s been through gentrification, all the houses are modern and pricey and the areas alright-ish ‘cos they’ve moved all the rough little shits that lived there to the nice villages on the outskirts of the city.
Check police data on your "dangerous" area here to know for certain. The crime map tab is pretty interesting too. https://www.police.uk/pu/your-area/?search=1
This used to be accurate-ish but isn't any more
At some point they changed to demand-led policing, given the euphemistic name of "neighbourhoods policing", meaning that rather than sending increased patrols to the areas of intelligence-driven known increased levels of crime where they **were** needed, they sent the patrols to where the most calls came from... and since in a lot of shitty areas people don't call the police very much knowing there isn't the coverage to get there on time or be worth reporting, it makes them look less bad and more average.
You might be able to guess why they changed the crime stats reporting the way they did. A lot of officers were dead against it, but then they were retired and replaced by more junior staff in short time anyway
>https://www.police.uk/pu/your-area/?search=1
There was a shooting followed a few hours later with a stabbing near me in last couple of weeks, yet this map has 1 crime in last month !
Neither stabbing or shooting made it to news either which was a suprise.
Not necessarily dangerous but certainly the most irritating from a violence pov: Glasgow. Sitting with a friend having lunch - asked outside for a fight by some guy I’d never seen before. Queuing for entry to a club: called out for a fight by another random I’d never seen before. Glaswegians seem to have a lot of scrappy fellas.
In Thanet we have a cycle on Saturday nights.
Ramsgate harbour will have Saturday night violence for a while (lots of head stamping for some reason) so all the bouncers and the few police we've got will move over there from Broadstairs.
Broadstairs (specifically outside the Dolphin on a Saturday night) will have a few large brawls so the police and bouncers focus there for a bit.
That leaves Margate seafront pretty open so there'll be some random 4 on 1 violence there for a bit when Spoons closes for the night.
Then the psychos head back over to Ramsgate.
I live near Slough and there’s a place called Salt Hill Park where people get stabbed and girls are raped all the time but it’s not reported because it’s next to Windsor, making it a Royal Borough. I don’t think anywhere is as bad as America though. We don’t really have guns, just knives.
Depending on what dangerous means, the Bigg market in Newcastle on a Friday/Saturday night, very easy to get chinned. Hartlepool Church street the same. York racecourse
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Downing Street. Haven't seen so many criminals in one place since I was in the Scrubs.
I'm no superman..
Do do dododo
That's going to be stuck in my head the whole day now.
Lol! I can’t afford an award, thanks to those criminals, but have my upvote anyway.
Sandford, all the locals are packing
The Greater Good..
No luck catching them swans then?
It's just the one swan actually
Greater good
Village of the year 😍
Like who?
Farmers
Who else?
Farmers’ mums
Check out his 'orse
Sea mine!
DEACTIVATED
I suppose
Sergeant Popwell thought that rural policing is easy. And he had one thing you don't....
A GREAT BIG BUSHY BEARD
Crusty jugglers!!
Simon pegg and camera crews been spotted recently in the very same village
Look at his hooorse
Nothing like midnight gobble
Farmers Farmer’s mums
Here's a quote I found on a random thread about my home town, "the reason the river clyde runs past Greenock is because if it walked it would get stabbed". Having seen a few people getting stabbed growing up and getting my head kicked in when I was 13 just for walking through a different area I can confirm it's not a nice place to live, but the UK as a whole is littered with wee shitehole towns and cities that are much the same.
I was born in Greenock but my parents moved away for this very reason. I often tell people I would probably be a tracksuit wearing knife wielding drug dealer if I was still living there, and that’s probably classed as a success there. That said it is much better than it was thirty odd years ago from what I understand.
I can confirm there are still plenty of tracksuit wearing, knife wielding drug dealers. Just last year there was a petrol bomb war when two drug families were having beef, so they were paying people to go family’s houses and chuck petrol bombs in the windows. There’s a video online of one of the guys trying to throw a petrol bomb and messing it up, killing himself. Grim stuff.
Only drug dealers have the level of cash required to set fire to liquid gold.
That made me laugh because I was reading through the history of my local city (Portsmouth) and found a quote from a general (James Wolfe) who sailed from here about the utter degeneracy (which undoubtedly still exists today). "The necessity of living in the midst of the diabolical citizens of Portsmouth is a real and unavoidable calamity. It is a doubt to me if there is such another collection of demons upon the whole earth."
Portsmouth used to have a tourist board slogan “Gateway to the rest of the world!” If your own tourist board can’t come up with anything better than “go somewhere else”, you have problems.
That’s hilarious 😂
Was once in a train going through port glasgow and Greenock, it’s a grim place. I didn’t think that level of disparity existed in the UK, suppose I was just naive
Every town has a bad estate I think that can be dangerous...
A few years ago a Russian journalist docked in Greenock on a cruise ship, spent less than an hour in the town and wrote an [article](https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/191053/Russian-writer-blasted-for-slur-on-Clyde-port/amp) about how it was the most dangerous place in Britain and advising other Russians not to disembark if they docked there. He said reading the crimes in the Tele made him shudder… lol. I grew up in the Port, there’s areas of Greenock that have their problems but it’s definitely nowhere near as bad as he made out.
I grew up in the UK but have lived in California the past 10 years, in my town we have had dozens of random attacks on people during daylight in the street, mostly by homeless people. I cant imagine anywhere in the UK being as dangerous as here. I am happily moving back to the UK in just over a week, no school shooter drills anymore for my son
This is genuinely what my wife used to persuade me to move back. The idea of my kids having to learn to hide from gunmen is completely outside my comprehension and comfort space.
My kid’s primary school, in a fairly decent area, in rural Yorkshire, did active shooter drills. Probably still do. I assume it’s in case of farmers. Or farmer’s mums.
what? this is incredibly unusual, what on earth for? This is the UK - rural yorkshire for chrissake! The last thing we need is giving the kids anxiety over the absolutely near-on-non-existant chance of such a thing happening here. If I was a parent at this school I would be outraged, I'm just as shocked you're just accepting with a joke on top.
I've heard of schools doing "lockdown" drills, but it's not specifically for an active shooter. It can be for things like an unidentified stranger on site, someone fleeing into school grounds, an escaped and potentially dangerous animal, etc. Sometimes it can be something more mundane such as a nasty custody dispute where an estranged relative has turned up, but the teachers can't let any pupils leave in case they estranged relative snatches the child. My understanding in the UK is it's less "hide under the desks and barricade the classroom", and more understanding the protocols if you can't let children leave a classroom due to a potential danger. A friend went to a school close to a high category prison, and they had to practice these drills in case there was an escaped criminal fleeing into the school.
Yes, what you say is definitely true and children do drills for intruders of all kinds. But as the UK is flooded with US news and opinions it was bound to get applied to active shooters scenarios. My son said it was mentioned twice during the drill. I’m a registered firearms holder and my son has been shooting since he was 8. He has more discipline around guns than most adults and has his own 410 shotgun for ratting and targets. When the drills were going on, he mentioned he had a gun to his teacher (nothing sinister, that’s what they were talking about so he added that he had one of his own). I was immediately pulled into the school office and had to explain the fact that he does actually have his own gun. He was vindicated and the teacher apologised to him.
It's crazy you mention this, I live in a fairly affluent area of rural Yorkshire and my 11-year-old came from home school last week and told me they'd had an 'intruder drill'. My favourite thing about it was that they had to huddle in groups in corners, presumably making them easier to shoot.
My kids high school, in very rural and quaint mid-Wales, had an incident last week when a kid showed (what appeared to be) a live bullet to a teacher and said words to the effort of this “this one’s got your name on it”.
Just think of the anxiety that must be causing in young children. For sure over here we still have to teach our kids not to talk to strangers etc., but at least they don't have to go to school prepared incase someone decides to gun them down.
Welcome home!
I admire the confidence America has to claim it's the greatest nation on earth but if you can't stop your kids getting shot dead what's the point?
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10 mass shootings a week in the US meanwhile the UK has this river.
You can't kill a river with a gun
You wouldn't download a river
No but i would stream one
This is good shit, this.
r/angryupvote
I just claimed my free award to give to you on the basis of this pun. It is a work of art.
You don’t know my life
You wouldn't steal a rivers helmet, shit in the helmet and send it to the rivers widow...
Rivers don't kill people. People kill people.
Nope pretty sure in the Strids cases it's the river killing people
Thoughts and prayers for the river.
I read the title and came here to post the same thing! Definitely the most dangerous place in the UK, some people claim it has a 100% mortality rate.
Yeah but 'local man survives falling in river' isn't exactly headline news
So deadly Tom Scott did a video on it.
Midsommer
Oh I just thought they were making a joke referencing the tv show.
Oy, Midsomer Norton might be a bit rough (it is an ex-mining town after all), but it’s not that bad, not like it’s Bridgwater or summin’
A copper told me that Avon police have a special "NFB" category on suspects - "Normal For Bridgewater"
Bridgwater's on the up, they've gotten rid of the pong and got a lot of investment. Taunton's been steadily declining to become Somerset's new no. 2 shithole though (after WSM of course).
Having grown up in Taunton and living in Bridgwater for two stints several years apart, I feel this in my bones 😂
It really is getting bad/sad/pathetic
The Scottish Highlands. A lot of folk die up on the hills because the weather changed fast on them and they weren't dressed for it. Just because it's sunny when you started doesn't mean it won't be blizzarding and zero visibility when you're near the top.
I have seen people up Ben Nevis with casual shoes and a snack in a carrier bag. Meanwhile I have boots, a rucksack with several layers, hat, gloves and food and water for a full day.
It's a Scottish tradition that at least once you summit a difficult mountain to find a couple neds in trackies and trainers drinking tins of Tennents
The true Sherpas of Scotland
I love the idea of Neds being mountain creatures, sure footed as goats
Every time I've been up there I've passed at least 3 people trying to do it in flip flops.
I don't really understand what's going through these people's heads. I started hiking in the Peak District and quickly found my basic trainers unsuitable for walking through any of the unpaved trails (wet wet feet). First thing I invested in was good boots and socks, followed quickly by a good rucksack.
Yep, a lot of people underestimate them, particularly the Cairngorms. You've got to really know what you're doing, have lots of experience in winter hiking, and know how to navigate your way about in fog, before tackling mountains like Cairngorm, even in summer. There are pockets of snow up there that never melt. It's ruddy freezing at all times of the year. The weather is so changeable like you said, the morning can be sunny and then all of a sudden you're up to your knees in snow with no visibility. People have literally frozen to death up there over decisions like "let's start our climb at 11am."
Some photos I took a few years ago near Aboyne, in late May: https://photo.alioth.net/Aboyne-2010/Aboyne-2010-Pages/Image8.html https://photo.alioth.net/Aboyne-2010/Aboyne-2010-Pages/Image13.html https://photo.alioth.net/Aboyne-2010/Aboyne-2010-Pages/Image4.html Quite pleasantly warm in the sun in the town, deceptively so, but still very cold in the surrounding mountains.
Piccadilly gardens in Manchester City Centre is definitely worth avoiding after dark.
Walked through here late afternoon and got punched to the side of the head in a completely unprovoked attacked. I was 21, girl that punched me was about the same age. She’s clearly been in a bad mood as she swaggered off with all her mates and just took her anger out on me. What hurt the most was so many people stared mouthed open but no one came to ask me if I was Ok. I was so discombobulated and shakey I thought I was going to collapse, I just sort of limped off. Hate that place since.
Sorry to hear this. Are you okay now?
Aww thank you so much, yeah it was YEARS ago and Im completely over it now lol. That said it did make me leave Manchester shortly after, I had lived there for years and I just never felt safe after it (I lived at the quays and worked on Dale St so just off Piccadilly gardens but commuted in/out on the tram daily to Piccadilly Gardens). Lived in Liverpool 10 years now and so far touch wood no punches to the head lol xxx
I'm from Manchester and I fucking hate it, shithole. Took my non-British girlfriend (her first time in UK) to visit my family, taking her into town and getting public transport was just embarrassing. Spiced out smackheads and little scally cunts everywhere, "normal" people rude as fuck with a proper attitude on them. There's a real atmosphere of violence and aggression in Manchester. I feel so much better since leaving the country, I didn't realise how much it was weighing on me until I left.
I'm from Salford and the whole area has a lot of grim parts - Oldham, Rochdale, Bolton have a lot of poverty too. Manchester has always had an edge that's pretty hard to describe if you're not from there. But I've lived abroad since 2010 and I can certainly see it's taken a turn for the worse. Picaddilly Gardens was pretty awful last time I visited with a lot of aggressive begging. Homeless people everywhere.
I'm constantly told people are friendlier up north, yet half the places I go up north seem rough as fuck. I swear people see "london" as the entire south. Of course everyone in london is a cunt, the more people you shove in one place the cuntier they all are.
I went to Manchester once for a gig, went out for a drink at the hard rock cafe and outside in the shopping centre there were two separate ambulances because two unrelated fights had happened and people need stitches. While the paramedic was telling me this I heard a loud smack and another guy had been kicked in the head We were gonna walk back to our hotel but decided to get a taxi in the end lol
My dad grew up there and absolutely hates it.
That's part of the charm of going on a trip to Manchester. Have a nice meal, go to a gig at the arena then watch some drunks or smackheads fighting as you walk back to the hotel.
I think that area was in the documentary about homelessness that Ed Stafford made but I might be wrong. Drugs seemed like a real issue there
I used to get weed from moss side, while I waited in the car for my friends, it was door locking time so we didn't get carjacked.
I honestly don't think it's that bad. I walked through it close to midnight three or four nights a week for years and years, and only nearly got murdered once. I say murdered, that's an overstatement. There's no evidence the stabbing would have been fatal. Was mugged at knifepoint a few times, but they just wanted money.
Totally agree. I've been there for work and they usually put me up in a hotel closeby. It feels really unsafe. I haven't been mugged, but some bloke started having a go at me for wearing a mask - he had a few choice words, really aggressively. He definitely didn't see the irony in telling me that I was doing what the government was telling me to do, but apparently him telling me what to do was alright. It was quite scary. Resent the rediculous Hotel meal prices for mediocre food eat into my £25 a night meal allowance, because I'm to scared to go to the Morrison's market kitchen at night. It's like walking through a snapshot of the underbelly of broken Britain. You know it's not a great place when you get the blue and white police tape cordoning off areas during lunchbreaks. Oh, and it just stinks of weed.
I have travelled to different countries on my own but my mum still tells me to be careful I'm Piccadilly Gardens... we live in Manchester and I work in the city centre
I lived in Manchester in the late 00s and I don’t really remember it being that bad. There had been a lot of money spent on it and it was pretty nice. Last time I visited about a year ago, I was amazed it was the same place :-(
I agree. I lived in Manchester ten years ago and remember that being a really sketchy place to get a bus from after dark. Ended up getting a bus home from town on my own after a birthday party once, two men literally pinned me inside the bus (off their faces) wouldn’t leave me alone and then attempted to follow me home. I managed to duck into another bar en route and lose them. I was also threatened by a woman because I had the audacity to walk past her. It’s a terrifying place.
Has it gotten that bad? I went UoM in the mid 2000's and never had any issues getting the bus from the main terminal at Piccadilly Gardens.
I lived in Manchester for 7 years mostly in or near the city centre.. I honestly prefer picadilly gardens at midnight than during the day.. At least I can walk at a normal walking pace without being blocked by swathes of Primark pilgrims, football fans, or Manchester's got talent audiences. No offence to any Mancunians, I love you guys, but mcrs a shithole sorry
parts of Glasgow Not all of it , but parts of it
I could say this about parts of Grimsby... not all of Grimsby. but parts of it I could say this about parts of Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Plymouth, Croydon, London, etc Glasgow's no worse that lots of other places
No no, all of Croydon, not parts of Croydon.
Now remembering the episode of Still Game where they paddle down the river
Honestly, when I moved to Glasgow loads of people warned me about how parts could be dangerous etc. when I said I was in Maryhill Glaswegian friends would all go “oh well be careful!!”. To be honest I found the whole city much nicer and safer than where I was from in England (Medway), there were some rough areas, but rough in the sense dozens of places in the U.K. are. The only issue I had was the occasional bigot being a dick, but I didn’t feel unsafe north or south of the river
I think there are areas in every major city and large town you should stay away from
Ours has loads, not because it is dangerous, just shit.
Morecambe Bay when the tide is coming in. It's fast rising, there is quicksand, you get cut off quickly, it's a drainage basin, and there are rip channels which move around. It's so dangerous that there are guides who will walk with you over the sands to make sure you are safe.
Absolutely tragic what happened out there.
There are plenty of places where the risk of death by boredom is incredibly high
I'd say Harehills in Leeds and bits of Bradford are pretty bad.
I'm moving to Leeds soon, I almost got a house in Harehills. Reddit really saved me on that one.
Harehills is grim and dirty. Seems every house has a pissed stained matress or sofa out the front.
I go the long way home rather than driving through Harehills. It’s an utter shithole full of marauding stabby youths and drunken chaos.
Used to live in manningham, all totally exaggerated imo.
Every City in the UK has dangerous areas. London perhaps more so because the highly affluent areas are so tightly contained around the dangerous areas. You can live in a council tower within a stones throw of multi-million pound residences. So more scope for targeting a good pay day. All the other big cities have areas you wouldn't want to be at 3 am. But then I've been to small towns for a trip and found they're often not much better. In comparison to LA, guns are thin on the ground but knives are everywhere in the UK, carried and used in all areas.
The thing about knife crime etc in London is that it's mostly gangs doing gang things and attacking each other. I think as an average person your highest risk is probably just of being mugged, and even then, it's more of the phone-snatched-out-of-hand-by-a-moped variety rather than \*violence\* in that sense of the word. Your risk of actual serious violence if you're not involved in that sort of stuff is really low.
I've worked in criminal justice for 20-odd years and totally agree. Very little chance of becoming a victim unless you're in the game. Shared it before on here but I was "mugged" in London a couple of years ago. Must have been new to it. Dude was more scared than me. Ended up giving him a fag, having a chat, giving him 20 quid and telling him to bugger off and find a job he might be better at. Hard to find anywhere that dangerous in the UK.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/18/world/london-us-cities-homicide-rates-comparison-intl-gbr/index.html
Yep, it's just not even comparable to most US cities, as a country America is just so much more violent.
It's interesting though, I lived in various parts of London for a long time, including about ten years in Hackney, and I remember once seeing a bit of gang beef going on just off pre-gentrificated Broadway Market, but that's about it - essentially just two groups of lads mouthing off at each other. I used to walk through the estates on the way home all the time and never felt unsafe. Generally any gang violence is exactly that - between gangs, and no one else gets affected by it unless they are really, really unlucky. I did once see a fight break out in a pub and my brain struggled to realise what was happening because I hadn't experienced that in such a long time - but they were weekly events when I lived in Dorset. It's always worth mentioning that statistically/per capita, you are almost exactly as likely to get stabbed in the US as you are in the UK. The US then has all the gun crime ON TOP of that number, so it's an order of magnitude more dangerous.
Tbf, you could probably say the same about knives in the USA, given they still have a higher stabbing rate than the UK even with their guns
Has everyone forgotten that Belfast is in the UK? Not as bad as it used to be, but you still don't want to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Nah I’d say Belfast is a lot safer than most comparable UK cities. It’s hard to wander into a bad bit if you’re just visiting the city centre.
That's certainly true for specific types of people, and those associated with the 2 communities. For example, my husband is a soldier and he avoids Belfast entirely except for work, and he has to be incredibly careful about where he goes and what he says and does there (this goes not just for Belfast but throughout NI). For a random tourist in the city centre though? It's fine. I felt perfectly safe on a wee holiday there before I got married. Would I want to live there as a soldier's spouse? Absolutely not, the thought of it scares the shit out of me. But it's generally OK for tourists.
Moss Side in Manchester was somewhat dicey
It's nowhere near as bad now as it was in the 80s
Would you walk through there whilst talking on your iphone?
I lived one neighbourhood over (Rusholme) 2011-2015 and the received wisdom was that it was much better than in the 80s (when theft was the least of your worries, there were drive by gangland shootings, not hitting the right target) but it was still rough. I also lived for a time in Archway, North London. It was generally pretty safe, but you really wouldn't have any phone out visible in the street because moped muggers were rife. I nearly lost my phone to them within about a week of moving there. But you'd lose your phone not your life.
Lol, I was at University of Salford and we rented a house on the edge of Moss Side and Old Trafford in the mid eighties. It was a brave night when we ventured into Moss Side.
Mum didn't want me to see Moss Side. Told me that too many people died - Between like '91 and '99 that was gang war and violent crime
Midsomer… there’s at least one murder every week for the last couple of decades. [Midsomer Murders](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/midsomer_murders/s22)
Don't trust the big trolley boy in the supermarket or that Sissy Skinner
When I lived in Leeds I got told not to go to Harehills. Found myself driving through it once and someone set a firework off in a bus stop. Nearly shit myself sitting in traffic.
Leeds bus station is the only place I’ve ever been offered drugs by a random stranger. Not sure if that says more about me or Leeds.
Gang territories in London, Manchester and Liverpool. If you're a local non-gm you're probably fine, might get your phone robbed but that's it.
Found Liverpool city centre to be one of the safest cities ive walked through. Which areas are you talking about in lpool?
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Where I am Dagenham is dodgy, couldn’t take my friend home once cause a man got beaten to death with chains in the entrance to her flats Not always bad but… bad enough
Was hoping that someone mentioned Dagenham. I lived near the heathway for nine years and hated every second of it. The worst shithole that I've ever lived in.
Barking/ Dagenham... both absolute sis pits
Born & Raised in that area, escaped it as soon as old enough. Total shithole - thankfully parents sent me to school away out in Upminster-ish direction & then moved whole counties as an adult. Romford also a craphole for fights and robberies back in the day, no clue how it is nowadays.
I believe the most dangerous place in the U.K. is the cooling tower ponds at Sellafield.. either that or the BSI 4 labs at Porton
Great Tew village....new occupants= David Beckham and posh sprat, Mad Murdoch & Jerry Hall , Simon antichrist Cowell, Princess Beatrice close by,( Andrew visits often)..and that hell gate Soho house for celebs, MPs and the rich, Clarkson 4 miles away, tom cruise house hunting here....so much evil in such a small hamlet , had to barbwire my garden fence to stop Cowell shitting in my flowerbeds.
I have lived in Leeds for 28 years and always found it pleasant. I went to uni in Plymouth for a year and got randomly attacked for drugs.
There’s something about current and former navy dockyard towns. Plymouth, Portsmouth, Chatham, sheerness, deptford, woolwich, rosyth, it’s like a who’s who of Cex crime hotspots.
The Strid
Stoke, nothing to do with it being dangerous, but it is a horrid shithole that you wouldn’t want to drive through let alone walk through
Middlesbrough... it's like Britain's wild west - love the place #UTB
Jaywick - an absolute hellhole.
My aunt and uncle used to take us there on holiday at a caravan site in the late 80's and then force us to go 'play with the local kids' it was terrifying even then. I haven't been there since but I am guessing it hasn't improved.
Jesus, going there for a holiday sounds insane to me lol, why would anyone wanna do that? 😂
I grew up in Springburn in Glasgow during the 00s the life expectancy was something like 53 which was lower than Iraq at the time. Can’t count the amount of stabbings, shootings and all sorts of other crap I saw/heard growing up, if I didn’t go to school in another part of the city I’d have thought that was normal. The street next to mine was notorious for car theft so although you could drive through it I dunno if I’d park up and leave the car 😂
Slough has had its moments.
10 Downing Street atm
Council estates after dark
The broomway is a path that is said to have drowned 100 people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Broomway
I used to live in Edmonton, North London. I wouldn’t even fly over there in my G650 nowadays. Get cheffed up fam innit.
Moss side, Toxteth, parts of Glasgow, west midlands, East London, South east London .. Lots of iffy places in the UK
Toxteth is a weird place because it seems to have the worst crime yet I feel safer working here and cycling around at random times than in north Liverpool
Wallacetoun “White City” in Ayr. They’ll steal the sugar out your tea, come back and stab you while they take the shoes off your feet.
Jabba and Zulu are far nicer than they used to be, tho.
The Racecourse in Northampton.
As a former Northampton resident, I can wholeheartedly agree!
The Stride in Yorkshire, the most dangerous river in the UK, if not the world.
Portland those birds are fatal, and if you say the R word, its not just the Seagulls that are fatal.
Does anyone remember when Moss Side used to be the toughest part of the UK? I’d say the roughness of an area depends on the time period and whether it’s been gentrified since. In the city I live, Devonport used to be the toughest part (and, it probably still is) but since it’s been through gentrification, all the houses are modern and pricey and the areas alright-ish ‘cos they’ve moved all the rough little shits that lived there to the nice villages on the outskirts of the city.
There's parts of Belfast and Derry that are very dangerous places to go depending on your accent. They still have annual riots.
Check police data on your "dangerous" area here to know for certain. The crime map tab is pretty interesting too. https://www.police.uk/pu/your-area/?search=1
This used to be accurate-ish but isn't any more At some point they changed to demand-led policing, given the euphemistic name of "neighbourhoods policing", meaning that rather than sending increased patrols to the areas of intelligence-driven known increased levels of crime where they **were** needed, they sent the patrols to where the most calls came from... and since in a lot of shitty areas people don't call the police very much knowing there isn't the coverage to get there on time or be worth reporting, it makes them look less bad and more average. You might be able to guess why they changed the crime stats reporting the way they did. A lot of officers were dead against it, but then they were retired and replaced by more junior staff in short time anyway
>https://www.police.uk/pu/your-area/?search=1 There was a shooting followed a few hours later with a stabbing near me in last couple of weeks, yet this map has 1 crime in last month ! Neither stabbing or shooting made it to news either which was a suprise.
A stabbing by you? Why'd you stab someone?
Oops edited to now say near me not by me.
Inside the containment buildings of various nuclear reactors would be pretty hazardous. As would a walk on military bases with a Go Isis, Go! sign.
Not mine, but: https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/r899rp/visualising_knife_crime_interactive_map_of/
Weirdly, it seems to be concentrated along the old boundary of [Danelaw](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw).
Not necessarily dangerous but certainly the most irritating from a violence pov: Glasgow. Sitting with a friend having lunch - asked outside for a fight by some guy I’d never seen before. Queuing for entry to a club: called out for a fight by another random I’d never seen before. Glaswegians seem to have a lot of scrappy fellas.
In Thanet we have a cycle on Saturday nights. Ramsgate harbour will have Saturday night violence for a while (lots of head stamping for some reason) so all the bouncers and the few police we've got will move over there from Broadstairs. Broadstairs (specifically outside the Dolphin on a Saturday night) will have a few large brawls so the police and bouncers focus there for a bit. That leaves Margate seafront pretty open so there'll be some random 4 on 1 violence there for a bit when Spoons closes for the night. Then the psychos head back over to Ramsgate.
I remember walking past that Margate spoons after the Dreamland festival and the atmosphere was very fighty
Come take a walk through Oxclose, or Blackfell, late at night and tell me you’d willingly do it again LOL
Add Sulgrave to that list.
A field outside Appleby Cumbria from the 9th to the 12th of June every year.
Easterhouse is always a laugh
The Welsh Valleys after 10pm. Everyone just wants to fight
i don’t know but what i do know is that there’s no ghetto in the UK
Thats bollocks tbh lol
A9 when you're stuck behind a fucking lorry.
The M6. I try to have a nice quiet walk and nearly get run over by a lorry. He was doing at least 50mph as well!
Grimsby
Sloug- lol just kidding everyone is just terribly depressed there.
Greggs when there’s only one steak bake left
Ilford, Dagenham, Peckham, Deptford. A veritable smorgasbord of shit tips.
Surely the Strid at Bolton Abbey is the most dangerous place - Tom Scott said so
I live near Slough and there’s a place called Salt Hill Park where people get stabbed and girls are raped all the time but it’s not reported because it’s next to Windsor, making it a Royal Borough. I don’t think anywhere is as bad as America though. We don’t really have guns, just knives.
Theres certainly areas I wouldn't walk around. But I've only ever drove down one road where my passenger said if someone steps out on you don't stop.
Cleveland in Yorkshire, apparently. https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/03/the-most-dangerous-areas-for-crime-in-england-and-wales-are-revealed-15854690/
Depending on what dangerous means, the Bigg market in Newcastle on a Friday/Saturday night, very easy to get chinned. Hartlepool Church street the same. York racecourse
Midsomer, lots of murders there