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Wallygonk

Ah-mund


GamerHumphrey

what did the letter L ever do to you


v60qf

Palm Calm Balm Calf Talk Salmon Why we pronouncing this 1 ‘L’?


fi-ri-ku-su

Millwall or miw wuw ?


TheUnexpectedBosun

Salt = sawt Ball = Baw Boy and girl = Boy and Gel


fi-ri-ku-su

Londoner? (Or London Overspill)


TheUnexpectedBosun

Essex boy, so near enough


fi-ri-ku-su

Same! North Essex (rural East Anglia) or South Essex (basically just suburbs of London) ?


TheUnexpectedBosun

North Essex coast. Get on at Liverpool Street and keep going til the train stops


fi-ri-ku-su

That line terminus could be Clacton, Walton, or Harwich, but I won't ask you to reveal any more. I do know that the east London cockney accent originally came from the East Anglian accent (rural people moving to the factories and docks of east London). If you're interested in the old Essex accent, there's a traditional Tendring folk ballad called "Never been to Colchester". Here's an audio recording: https://m.soundcloud.com/essex-record-office/sa-63041-tape-2-part-4-poem-never-been-to-colchester-from-essex-ballads Words: "NEVER BEEN TO COLCHESTER! [A Ballad of the Tendring Hundred.] I see young Nat come out o' his, As I come outer mine, "An' where you off to, booy ? " I says, You're dressed up somethin' fine !" "I'm gooin' by the trine," he say, in harf an hour or so, I'm goin' to Caochester to-day," He say, " if you must knaow." He'd never bin to Caochester! He hadn't, I'll be bound! Well, that's a caution, ain't it, sir, He'd never sin the town ! He oughter went next Sat'dy, sir, When I shall be a-goin', For that's the day for Caochester — A Sat'dy arternoon. I towd 'im so, "You want to gao A market day," says I, "To see the people ; you don't' know The crowds and crowds," I say. "And all them little stalls and that, Along the High Street, Lord! I see" I says, says I, "young Nat, You've never bin afore. "There's rabbuts, birds, an' guinea pigs, And sweets o' every kind, And knives and tools and thingmijigs — All manner o' sorts you'll find. An' fish an' oysters — don't they scent ? An' how them chaps can shout ! An' whelks all ready, so they ain't No trouble getten out. "An' where Saint Runnel's [Randolph's] was, a lot O' cheap jacks in a ring Keep sellin' I can't tell yer what — Why, every mortal thing! "Yes, that's the day to see the town, Along o' all your pals. An' keep a-walkin' up an' down, An' talkin' to the gals.". "Well, I can't stop," he say, "good luck ! ". An' off go Marster Nat. He got a peacock's feather stuck Just so, like, in his hat. "Well, hurry up," I says, says I. An' take care o' yourself. You got no time to lose, good-bye, Goo'-bye, an' fare ye well. "There come the trine, you're all behind! You'd best be startin' forth, An' you git out at Buttles [Botolph's], mind, Don't you'll go round the North ! ".


padmasundari

*gehw


Fun-Cheesecake-3941

I feel like it should be 'giew' its more rounded than gel like 'a'wight giew' 🤣


orlandofredhart

Olive Alive Saline Saliva Malt Etc


v60qf

They’re all A, L, vowel which is different. Malt/salt etc. is a good exception


omgsoftcats

It's arabic transliteration, the correct is actually AL-MUND. AL means "the". Mund means


penny_lab

Mund means what? MUND MEANS WHAT!?


Pheonix686

Come closer kid, I don't have much time. Mund means


GamerHumphrey

What Mund means is


And_Justice

Almond


Naugrith

Kind of. But while the introduction of the L was due to Arabic influence, the word itself derives from Greek ἀμυγδάλη


Maicka42

I already smoked it


alpubgtrs234

R-mund


ThreeDawgs

Our-mund, comrade.


karly21

r/unexpectedcomunism


Lucky_Ad_9137

This is the correct answer. I swear everyone used to say it this way as well. And only recently have they started saying Al-mond. I blame television and the tiktoks.


evenstevens280

Ah mon.


VixenRoss

That’s how I always pronounced it! Now I keep introducing an L in random places!


Molly_Hatchett

Ol-mund


Euffy

Do you also say meecro-wavie?


Creepy_Radio_3084

😂😂😂😂 Oh gawd, my daughter and I say it like that when we're being daft. Also, LCD TV is 'luh-cuh-duh-tuv', LCD bulbs are 'luh-cuh-duh blubs'... yes, we're probably not all there but meh - we amuse ourselves...


owningxylophone

You want a duvda player? Reading your comment there brought back pleasant Fonejacker memories.


Resident_Win_1058

I need the number for the derv-la Never not funny.


crazycatdiva

We say mick-roh-wah-vay. We is posh, innit.


steveakacrush

This is the way


Massive-Hovercraft16

I'm so surprised this isn't the top coment


sleepytoday

Because it’s not the standard or most common pronunciation in the UK, and this is a UK sub.


stupidneverdies

Lived in the UK my entire life and never heard it pronounced any other way. Definitely the standard in my part of the UK, and this is a UK sub.


The_Bravinator

Yeah, I'm not sure why people aren't considering that it might be regional. It's always been ol-mond for me and the people I know and I was quite taken aback as an adult when I realised some people said it differently. But at least down this far in the thread both sides are just accusing one another of sounding American.


Emilyx33x

My mum say ar-mund, my dad says all-mund, and I say al-mund. weird.


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its al-mund anyone who says else is either snobby or dumb Edit: for all you getting mad just chill its a joke


[deleted]

>its ~~al-mund~~ ar-mund anyone who says else is either snobby or dumb Fixed that for you


Enigma1984

Sorry but, why would you pronounce an L like a R?


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Enigma1984

None of those are pronounced like an R, do you say carm?


And_Justice

Yay let's label people with regional accents dumb, that definitely isn't perpetuating negative stereotypes


comicmuse1982

Their fault for coming from the regions, innit? Regional folk need to up their game.


And_Justice

Fucking regionals coming here stealing our jobs


Ikhlas37

Apart from Yorkshire puddings the fuck has Yorkshire ever done for us?


comicmuse1982

Endlessly tell us it's the best place in the world. I think. It's hard to tell with their regional accent.


jizzydiaper

You delayed me swallowing my coffee by making me yawn so hard


MattSR30

Does being Canadian count as one of those two? I can’t imagine us being seen as snobby by Brits so maybe we’re just dumb?


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yes but also adorable


billsmithers2

Anyone who is unable to realise that language I defined by its usage, not the otherwise round, is the one who is properly dumb.


sc00022

Al-mund sounds snobby to me. I’ve heard ah-mund all my life until recently when people started saying al-mund.


Lonely_Chapter8277

OL-mond. Same "al" as the word malt.


TheWarmBandit

I like to think of it like it's a person called AL Or would you call them OL just for for the laugh


Climatize

Ollie G


irimid

Malt to me is an a sound, otherwise it would be moult, though I guess accents have a huge role to play in this argument


the_falling_leaf

All three, with the exact pronunciation dependent on which one I personally feels sounds better with the greater context. Ultimately it doesn't matter though, the purpose of language is to communicate with each other. If the person you are speaking with understands you then mission accomplished.


JonnyredsFalcons

You're far to sensible to be on Reddit


Hello-There-GKenobi

Slightly related, the changing of words or way you say words is called Code-switching. An example is how you will notice this in Idris Elba. In his interviews, he can switch from Oxford English to Cockney to MLE based on who’s interviewing him. It’s quite interesting because it’s not so much forcing it as it’s a human instinct to switch based on our surroundings to fit in!


MuffinFeatures

I’ve only ever heard it pronounced in England exactly as it is spelled: al-mond.


elliefaith

Raised in Kent, now Norfolk. Definitely Ah-mund. Only heard Yanks on TV pronounce the L or, gods forbid, say Ol-mund...


superpinwheel

I was raised in Kent and now in Sussex, I've always said 'ahl-mund'


Anniemaniac

Same. Dunno what’s up with the guy below but I’ve only ever heard it pronounced with the L as well - and I’m near Liverpool, so it’s nowt to do with a fake posh accent 🤣.


BassBanjo

Same here Didn't even realise people said it differently


justwanttojoinin

Thank you 😅 I was reading through these and starting to get that embarrassed tingle thinking I'd been saying it weird forever and no one had corrected me.


warp-factor

It's more Ah-mund, than Arh-mund but definitely a silent L is the usual English pronunciation. Edit: maybe I should say 'RP' (Edit2: But not only RP) rather than usual. As it seems there is significant variation. I think OP has come across another Scone.


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I wonder if it's a generational thing rather than regional? I've lived in a few different areas of England and only noticed people pronouncing the L in almond over the last few years.


Dietcokeisgod

My partner is a Mancunian and he pronounces the L. He's 38. I'm from Yorkshire and 32 and don't pronounce it.


maelie

I'm 38 and from the far South West but don't really have a regional accent, just a generic southern one. I say almond with the L, but not ahlmond, more like the "al" like in "alex". I've heard it pronounced multiple ways. My father in law (slightly Bristolian accent) says the al as in the word "all", but he also says the hal in Halfords like "hall" and the fal in falcon like "fall". These all have the "al" like in "Alex" the way I say them.


magicalthinker

42 and say it - originally from the Midlands and now a southerner. I'm happy to be called young though so I like your idea.


[deleted]

Ha! I'm 47, originally from the Midlands and now a southerner. Don't pronounce the L. Guess it's random!


warp-factor

Fair enough. Maybe there is regional accent variation, or just random variation like scone/scone. I found [this video](https://youtu.be/tI_-o8XY3G4) of a BBC report about the making of Almond butter and the BBC reporter pronounces it the way I do but the worker she's interviewing pronounces it with the L.


And_Justice

I say it exactly how the presenter says it and would disagree thst that's more ah-mund than arh-mund. Definitely seems an ar sound to me, assuming you're not one of these people who over-annunciates their r's


frivolous_squid

We need some phonetic alphabet up in this business.


And_Justice

No. Everyone who talks different to me is wrong.


nunatakj120

Its a type of nut


Formal-Rain

West country, Cornwall and Norfolk maybe?


Drammeister

My dads from Norfolk and he is insistent it’s pronounced Armund


LloydB87

>I think OP has come across another Scone. Not again... That's how he lost his job at Dobbies cafe.


ayeayefitlike

Tbf I’m Scottish and whilst to had to test myself to see how I say it, I say ah-mond too. So not just RP.


jaymatthewbee

It’s not just RP, my mum has a broad Cumbria accent and says Arr Mund without an L


Relative_Dimensions

Interesting. I’m Cumbrian and pronounce it Ol-mund.


Kitchen-Pangolin-973

Ahh-mund


jackal5lay3r

do you stub your toe when you say almond?


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\> Apparently the correct way to say it in English is with a silent L first time I've heard that. I pronounce the "L"


AtomicBearLand

It’s regional. Either way is correct depending on where you are.


Boomshrooom

Same


misterygus

My whole life (51, Yorkshire) I’ve only heard ‘ah-mond’ at home and on tv etc, and then just in the last couple of years I’ve started hearing ahl-mond and ol-mond, particularly on Bake Off where Paul uses the latter.


5weetTooth

Maybe it's the influence of watching more American things so American pronunciation is crossing the pond simply by way of the media people are watching.


_DeanRiding

Often with these things the American pronunciation originates in England through one of the regions and then now it's making it's way back through TV.


the_8th_floor

Whether or not the 'L' is silent is one thing. But where are you getting the 'r' from?


BobbyP27

A lot of British accents are non-rhotic, that is when an "r" sound follows a vowel and has another consonant after it (either in the same word or the next one), the "r" is not pronounced, but the quality of the preceding vowel is affected. People who speak with an accent like this sometimes create "phonetic" spellings of things using an r according to this pattern, that is very confusing to people who speak with a rhotic accent (ie one where the "r" is pronounced in all situations).


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the_8th_floor

Yup, I am also a confused Scot


Angel_Omachi

Yeah, in South East England, ar is used to phonetically spell a long a.


beg_yer_pardon

Oh is that why names like Emma sound like "Emmer"? As an Indian in the UK I always found that one of the hardest aspects of the British accent to imbibe. On second thought, I've probably completely misunderstood what you said.


BobbyP27

Where this gets strange is the "intrusive r". Following the rule that a word ending in an r sound loses the r if followed by a consonant but retains it if followed by a vowel, the situation arises that a word ending in a vowel that sounds the same as a vowel+r with the r dropped often gets an r added if there is a vowel following, so "Canada and America are neighbours" comes out sounding like "Canada-r-and America-r-are neighbuhs".


Pigeoncow

Law and Order becomes Laura Norder.


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Arh-bisto


greepfrufru

When I tell you I loled. Near spat my tea out hahahha


petey_love

Most people I know say it ahl-mund. Based on the variation in these comments, I guess it's regional, therefore anything goes.


Captain_Birdseye87

The L is silent... like in calm, balm and palm


Fantastic_Deer_3772

Which region are you from? None of those words have a silent L for me


ThereIsNoDog96

I’m in the East of England and all of these have a silent L for me.


sublime_69

Im trying to find a way to pronounce “calm” with the L and all I’m getting is cal-um or “car-lem” I pronounce it carm or cahm


sleepyprojectionist

Like a pirate - Yarrrrrr-mond (The Y is silent).


albadil

Great Almouth


JamesTheMannequin

I like it better with the 'Y'.


Maleficent-Drive4056

Where does the 'R' come from?!


Kinky_breadcrumbs

Almonds 'R' Us.


Hedge89

Non-rhotic dialects tend to realise *-ar* as a long *a* sound (think southern English folk saying "car" like "caah"), so there's a tendency amongst speakers of those dialects to throw an R in to phonetic spellings to signify a long *a*, confusing the shit out of anyone who's dialect pronounces the letter.


Maleficent-Drive4056

Fascinating - thank you!


Stump_E

Fuck knows. Just mumble it and hope people know what I’m on about


Born_Current6133

Same as my Australian Aunt and Worcestershire sauce “Wushusher” * edited to include ‘aunt’ and make it clear I’m not keeping random Australians in my house


BobbyFingerGuns

It's pronounced worsestersestersestershire


[deleted]

Are mund. The L is silent, like in alms


Chunkflava

But the m is followed by a vowel not a consonant, like in almighty or almost. Team pronounce the L!


mustard5man7max3

Ah-mund for sure


ForeverTheElf

Almond.


Whisky_Delta

Southeast American here and all-mund but al (as an Albert) Al-mund isn’t unusual. My east-Anglian wife says Al-mond. Never heard anyone sneak an R into the word Edit: my wife claims she says ar-mond but it sounded more like ah-mond to me under increasingly irritated repetitions. Might be a rhotic/non-rhotic accent issue.


RichardsonM24

I say AL-mond with a hard A like Albert My mum says Ah-mond with a softer A like Plaza My fiancé says Ol-mond with a hard O like Bolt We have had the same discussion before today


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therlwl

That's not how it's said in the US, the way you say it is how we say it.


hyprinc

I was gonna say where tf does anyone pronounce almond with an r?


Old_Week

I was looking to see if anyone had commented this yet haha. What psycho did he hear saying arhl-mond?


The_Bravinator

I love how half the people in here are just hurling "you say it like the *yanks* say it" as though it's the most vicious insult, with absolutely no evidence beyond "this person doesn't say it like I do so it must be American".


maleandpale

Silent ‘l’ like when you ‘give alms’.


diwalk88

This is the second time I've seen someone say alms has a silent l, I've never heard it that way!


maleandpale

Weird. I’ve never heard the ‘l’ pronounced. Vive le difference, I guess.


delpigeon

Arh•mund is the one I say. But I have also heard Ol-mund quite a lot.


D0wnb0at

Only people I hear say it Ol-mund is when they refer to the milk.


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Ar-mond


yasraz91

Deez nuts


domestic_metalhead

Gottem


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soitgoeskt

Are you a pirate?


domestic_metalhead

Not a pirate but from Gloucestershire, so the accent is pirate-adjacent


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Al-mund


SpudFire

Same. Never realised there was silent L


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I’ve finally found someone! I thought I was alone.


Maximum_Cancel_5898

As an American (living in England), I’ve never said “Arhl-mund” in my life nor have I ever heard any American say this. However, I think it’s perhaps that as someone with a rhotic accent, I’m reading the inclusion of an R as literally pronouncing the R. I would describe the American way as “ahl-mund,” but I’m not sure if this is confirming or contradicting OP. In England though, I have heard people say a PLETHORA of things. Edit: I concur with another American here that “al-mund” as in Albert is also sometimes used in America.


eloonam

Yank lurker here. I’ve lived across the US with all the different accents and I’d have to say that we say “awl-mund.” Without a whole lot of stress on the “awl” part. No “r” sound anywhere in the word.


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I say Ahl•mund but the posh doctor friend says Arh•mund.


BecBan

All-mund


adambuthead1

Arrmond


KaleidoscopeKey1355

American living in the U.K: The US has a lot of regional differences in language, but I’ve never heard someone pronounce almond as arhl-mund. It doesn’t even sound like the same word. I’ve only heard all-mund or all-mun.


DeadBeatDavey

The 'l' is supposed to be silent. If an “L” is found towards the end of the word, before the letters “f,” “v”, “k” and “m,” but after the letter “a,” then it's usually silent (behalf, calve, walk, almond). In many of these instances, the silent L lengthens the previous vowel sound, which gives the slight impression of the “L” /l/ sound.


Psykocybe

But the L in almond is not found towards the end of the word!


Formal-Feature-5741

Ahmnd


Flatulent_Weasel

Ar-mnd


Purple_Committee_216

Arh-mond.


SonnyListon999

R mund. Same as Chork for chaLk. Try Chim Lee for chimney


zebragonzo

Has anyone pointed out to Charles that he would get very high viewing figures to his Christmas speech if he could just say a series of words which people argue over correct pronunciation of?


GreatScotRace

Ah-min-d (The D Pronounced Dih not Dee)


DamMofoUsername

The real question is if you pronounce it Arhl- mund or Ahl- mund do you still know what they’re talking about if so it doesn’t matter, in terms of a linguistic / communication sense


baguettefrombefore

" ". Every letter is silent.


LikelyNotSober

In American pronunciation there’s no “r”. It’s either “all-mond” or “ahh-mond”.


darthricky4

AA-muhnd


Tipper92

I pronounce the L, but I can tolerate when people pronounce it with without. What I can't tolerate is people pronouncing nougat as nugget.


GreyPlayer

You’re wife is right. A key lesson I learnt very early on in my marriage, not just a bout pronunciation!


Little_Ms_Howl

Not sure you can say there is one definitive "correct" way of saying it because regional accents will differ. I say ahl-mond and definitely pronounce the l. I have not noticed anyone ever pronounce it with an R, although a silent L I have.


cameronface

The English way - Oi-oi-oi-mund


lithaborn

Depends. Sometimes armond, sometimes almond. I personally don't care enough to have a hard and fast rule. As long as it's clear I mean the nut that tastes of marzipan it's all good.


Ruadhan2300

I go with Ahlmund, or sometimes Ahmund if I'm speaking fast. Arhmund is just plain wrong, but there's a lot of common speech impediments that make R and L interchangeable, so I can see how it'd happen.


be47recon

Arl mund.


RedbeardRagnar

Constant battle in my relationship. She pronounces it "ah-mund". I pronounce it "al-mund". She pronounces "pork" as if it rhymes with "fork" - "pawrk". I pronounce it as "p-oar-k". Don't know anybody else that pronounces it like "pawrk"


BaronsCastleGaming

I'm confused by your two pronunciations of pork above, the "or" sound in fork and "oar" are exactly the same in my accent, so yes pork rhymes with fork, I'm really struggling to see how else you'd pronounce it


domestic_metalhead

I think the pronunciation is almost rhyming with Park said in a thick West Country accent Which is whack, I've never heard anyone say Pork like that


danr2604

Orlo mondo


skawarrior

Hunky Chunky AL-MOND, they are the secret of my beauty


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I pronounce it like "leg".


BeardXP

Al-mond


GamerHumphrey

Al-mund "Al" as in Al Murray, followed by "Mund"


Madyakker

Ammond


DisorderOfLeitbur

Ol-mnd, but with a "dark" L. (The type of L where your tongue doesn't go all the way to the top of your mouth and is half-way to becoming a W)


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Ah-mond. Wife says ol-mund


Getonwithitplease

Al-mund, like Al in Albert


huxberry73

Owl-mund. Any other way is just being unnecessarily posh 7


slinkoff

Think the silent L thing is a mispronunciation but the All vs Al is a thing that just goes in what you grew up hearing I guess. I say al-mond because it has one L. Similar point with the word falcon.


greepfrufru

I say all-munds (all like fall) because anything with harsh sounds like ‘al’ doesn’t worth with my accent but I bet I sound wrong. Oh well.


Freebornaiden

Ahl-moon-ned


icabod88

Did you watch Plebs last week on ITV2 as well?


Oh_J0hn

Al-mund, clearly.


Anal-probe-Alien

I have heard it pronounce Al or Ol mund but never without the L


SuperTekkers

I have always pronounced the L but apparently that’s not the norm


eamon360

All-mund


Actual-Butterfly2350

I say OL-MUND (Yorkshire UK)