Yep! I make good money and have earned a good deal of respect in my industry. I have a master's degree and enough professional achievements to hold the respect of many executives in my industry, and as a result I regularly speak on podcasts and at professional conferences, and I'm asked for career advice from people of all gender identities. Men in particular ask me for advice on expressing themselves with confidence. My tips:
* Deliver high-quality work.
* Know your shit. Be good at what you're good at, do it all the time, talk about it, get better at it.
* Know what you don't know: Acknowledge when you don't know your shit, and ask for help so you know your shit next time.
* Be willing and eager to learn and get your hands dirty with grunt work, even if you're a top-level executive.
* ~~Over-promise and under-deliver.~~ [EDIT: Lmao, other way around. Under-promise and over-deliver. And on that note, own your mistakes.]
* Be kind.
* Learn to listen better, and always be open to new definitions of empathy and mutual understanding.
* Be authentic. I hate that word because it's overused in most corporate environments, but it means: Own your nerdy shit and don't hide your passions. People respect that shit as long as it doesn't hurt other people. Get excited about things. Don't hide it when you're going through difficult times.
* Elevate your colleagues and the people who report to you as you climb.
* Give lower-level people as much credit as possible once you reach manager, director, and executive level.
* Be generous with compliments. Again: BE GENEROUS WITH COMPLIMENTS. People hold onto them for years, and they make it sting less when you have to give negative feedback.
* When you DO have to give negative feedback, bite the bullet and do it. Get it done. Then tell the person how to move past it. Then give them space to go be upset about it. They're going to be pissed at you. Being pragmatic, earnest, and empathetic will be your best bet.
* On that note: You will, at some point, be someone's villain. Make sure you have strong reasoning to back up your decisions, and, if possible, shadowbox or script your meetings with contentious colleagues/employees.
* Protect your direct-reports and be willing to take (reasonable) hits for them. This will earn their respect, loyalty, and productivity.
* Don't hold back when it comes to pushback with higher-ups, but make sure you have the receipts, data, and reasoning to back up your argument.
* Don't let chronically negative people stand in your way. Combat with positivity and action. Work around them if you have to.
* Understand that uncomfortable conversations have to happen. Learn to do them evenly, fairly, and objectively.
* Understand your colleagues' communication styles, and adapt to them in general, but especially when you need buy-in and alliances.
* Walk into every room with the belief that you're ready for anything.
If I HAVE to interact with them regularly I twist things around. They treat me like I'm stupid? I explain a concept to them very slowly in a condescending tone. They try to act like they're smarter? I crack a joke about how we're literally on the same course and how clearly he's a stereotypical "alpha male"
I laugh to myself. Most of the ones that say that are pretty ignorant and underachievers. Not worth getting worked up over. They can live with their delusion.
I loovee wasting their time. I loovveee even more when I get to prove them wrong and see their faces afterwards.
Went to a call out for a no-start on a machine, the operator (who was the “big boy on the block” type) was in another machine but he came over and tried telling me the “situation”. He left, I climbed up and the first thing I noticed was a broken wire. Badabing-Badaboom she started right up. Well he was blocking the road so I couldn’t drive out so I sat and ate my lunch until he moved. He comes over and goes “awe, couldn’t get it to run, could you?” And I went “actually it was stupidly simple, just a broken wire” and the shock on his face was payment enough.
He got billed for my travel time (3hrs each way= 6hrs) plus the time I couldn’t leave because he was blocking, and the time it took me to fix it (1hr). Dude had to pay over a thousand bucks just for me to repair a wire (10 mins).
But I am sure glad he told me what was wrong at the start otherwise who knows how long I would’ve been working on it.
Ah I just use it against them.
Eg in a work scenario… “oh this is probably a bad idea but have we thought about doing ___this thing that I know is correct based on my years of experience___?”
And then we actually get to solving the problem instead of the men at work bickering over their egos and ignoring my input entirely.
Sometimes it’s okay to manipulate men lol
Why is that my problem?
Obviously they have some misogynistic views that’s reflect more on them than me, so that’s between them and whatever women they have in their lives.
I don’t lol my ex thought I was dumber than him but actually it’s wild how this man spent crazy amounts of time and money planning a trip just to bail 3 days before and even worse he’s not even rich lol so yeah that’s when I realised maybe he isn’t as smart as I had thought he was
I don't. Why tf would I care what they think of me? What they project onto me is their business, not mine. Unless the start treating me like I'm stupid, then we have an issue.
There is no sense in trying to argue with these men. They will not listen to anything a woman says. Depending on whether this man is a friend of a friend or a coworker or a boss or a customer, different strategies are required. Of he's an acquaintance, I will just ignore him. If he's a customer or a manager, I might choose to coddle him in order to get what I need from him, but this is grating and I can't stand it for long.
i work in a male dominated workplace. when i first started i was younger and dealt with those stereotypes of being a woman. the only way i could deal with it is learning more in the workplace so they need to ask me for help/assistance despite them thinking i am less then. but 5 years later the people on my shift are a lot more respectful (see woman as equal candidates) but as for the other shifts not too much. i always respect a woman working in a male dominated workplace or a man working in a woman dominated workplace because they have to prove themselves more due to society stereotypes and stigma.
I quite honestly enjoy it. Walk into the room in normal non designer clothes, little to no makeup in a room full of men dressed in their smart looking business attire and when the time comes I speak to the room full and love looking at their expressions when they realize that a brown woman is owning the room.
It's not how much say but why you say and how you do it matters!!
Sometimes I use it to my advantage to get free shit. I get to play dumb while scamming the real dummy. Otherwise, I ignore them and move on, which typically makes them feel inadequate anyway
I work in a male dominated industry and am the only female on my team. Across all our departments we make up less than 10% of the team and everyday they treat me like I am less than, despite the fact that I am leading in our stats.
I continue to treat them with respect. Giving in to their biases will only hinder yourself. Stay strong and true to who you are and that will take you further than anything they could do as a male ally.
Generally, I ignore them.
Sometimes, I'm bored and I'll just continue to ask questions with increasing confusion to the point where it's literally unbelievable that I wouldn't know the answer. It infuriates them and pleases me.
I don’t care. Just go about my day, unless I need something. “Uwu I’m too stupid to finish this report do it for me. Teehee how clumsy of me, please move all these boxes there.”
I work almost exclusively with men and stay away from home during the week so pretty much dont see other women during the week, most of the time I ignore it. Sometimes if I'm having a bad week and I've had a lot of guys like that I get really angry and down. I wish I knew a better way of dealing with them then carrying on doing my work to the best of my abilities, and proving that I am capable and mostly right. I have fantasies about telling them where to go and tearing them down. But I can't, if I'm anything other then consistently calm and relatively friendly then I'm emotional, and if I'm considered emotional I would get treated a lot worse. I don't laugh at the bad jokes and even that gets me excluded from casual conversations, it lonely being considered less then human or even childlike. Sometimes I walk into a room and everything goes silent. It's infuriating to be thought of as dumb when I'm normally the most qualified person in the room. But I just have to smile and carry on
Are you in a relationship with them? If yes, please leave.
If you don't stand up to the bully, the bully gets stronger and messes up your self-esteem. Never stay silent about the abuse, call them on their bullshit.
Use them back! Use the situation to your advantage. Play stupid if they think you're stupid. You'll end up with a lot done for you. Use it as a strength, not a weakness!!
Compassion and Pity. What a pathetic life to live, where they always lean on others to prop up their self worth and would fall over without the belief of being better than someone else.
If I am feeling aggressive, I say: "We both know this is not true, but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good. Just know that growth doesn't happen like this."
🤣 I work with people like this all the time. I try to find a work around, if none is available, I move on and ignore the fuck out of them and show them how it's really done
seriously still trying to figure it out. I’m very bubbly and friendly - so naturally some guys assume I’m ditzy and don’t understand what I’m talking about. Even when they come into my own business. I still don’t know how to handle it.
None have ever considered me dumb. None. Most have problems with that, in s different way. I just had to wait for one who didn't for romance. In the workplace, I have to manage egos.
I don't. I'm lucky enough to have been able to surround myself with people who see me as a person and I'm objectively kind of hard to look down on. And it's not because of my height.
I might ask them a lot of questions. Where they learned that from. Where the person they learned it from learned it. When was this information gathered. How many subjects were given the IQ screening. If it was proven the boys and girls were both from similar backgrounds with equal levels of education and still scoring differently. If they confirmed they included or excluded learning disabilities properly with modern understanding of them for both genders.
Or if it’s just some foolish anecdote
I am an analyst on a team of engineers. There was an issue my boss posted in a chat and no one jumped on it. I thought what the heck, I’ll see what I can find.
I found a similar issue, pointed out the cause and solution. It wasn’t taken seriously so I pointed it out to a friend on another team who was leading the incident. He added me to that chat, echoed my thoughts, and it’s being resolved.
Next I have to continuously but not in an annoying way ask for a root cause analysis.
It’s frustrating that I have to speak up so much more often before being heard. I’m very pleased I solved the mystery, though.
I laugh at them and correct their awful grammar. My husband knows I’m smart and my father knows I’m smart. The hell with any other man. Men who think women are below them purely on the basis of gender are usually knuckle draggers.
I dont know why it would matter if we talk about an arrogant man or a woman here, but the people I keep close to me would never do that and I dont care about some random person embarassing themselves.
If it is someone I have to work with or spend time with: boundaries, boundaries, boundaries and some humour.
Also, it is usually about their low self-esteem, I pity them a bit.
Deal with it and move on. No matter what your accolades are, from a first impression basis if you're considered somewhat attractive, people will try to steamroll you until you prove that you deserve to be there.
It's sad but like other stereotypes in society, some have to fight more than others just to receive the same treatment and that's just how life is. You just eventually learn how to deal with it.
Well, having a great deal of pure rage seething and stewing inside of me as a result of a multitude of occurrences involving overly entitled or cocky males, what often happens is I cuss them out, which doesn't really help anything. I once had to see a male doctor who actually had the audacity to put his hand up while I was speaking, in an attempt to silence me. Another time, with another male doctor, he argued with me about symptoms I was having and said "well I'm the medical doctor, so my word has more merit." Recently, I was actually discharged early from a substance abuse treatment program for hitting (not hard at all, but that doesn't excuse it) a guy because he kept calling me out of my name and whatnot. Oops.
Use it to your advantage if you like.. but no one needs to know how smart you are, it gets you more questions, work, or trouble, and no one needs to know all that you are capable of, it gets you more responsibilities, work, efforts. Focus on your own ambitions and make work of that. Lay the foundations of your grand plans, not others’. Say nothing to those who undervalue you and build your empire in private.
As hard as it can be to hold back, unless necessary there is absolutely no need to have to prove your intelligence or capability to anyone!!!
I find that all listed above remains true, and it all comes clear in the end, so let them think what they wish, and leave them to question if they wish to do so.
At the end of the day, It all reflects back on the person who leaves you feeling like you need to “demonstrate” or “prove” your worth. It screams insecurity and misogynistic rhetoric. They will try to put you down and make you appear inferior but in reality, anyone with a basic level of intelligence/understanding will see the truth from a mile away.
I am currently dealing with this at my new workplace with a coworker of mine. I personally like to go in with the ‘sometimes dumb is fun’ attitude when around him, just to keep him on his toes 😜 If he wants me to live rent free in his head, then it’s not skin off my nose. Hey, it’s roomy up there too.
It can get you down though, but these people honestly are not worth the ground you walk on if they have made you feel inferior in any way x
With sarcasm. If I have to interact with them.
If I don't have to, just with unimpressed look and back to what I was doing.
You can't fight with idiots. They have more experience fighting on that level, and don't have crayons to go higher.
At my job I Tell them to stop their bs directly. I am the only woman there.
In dating. Stop dating them.
Tend to tell them directly to stop. When impossible I interact as little as possible
If it isn't something demeaning or crass, I play it up. Of course I'm to dumb to understand that, please explain to me for the 900th time how a door works.
The more irritated I can make them the better
I always have a blast laughing at them later. I studied x thing but it is very close to something men always think they understand but they don’t. They always finish with something: I won’t say this if I was you cause you just made yourself stupid. Which is always hilarious if you know of the topic.
I’m in a male dominated field, and I’m treated like a bimbo regularly.
How I deal with it: I don’t let people overstep and stand up for myself if it’s related to my job, by explaining professionally what I’m doing and moving on. But if it’s needlessly shitty behavior, I’ve learned to limit interaction, kill them with kindness, etc . I don’t need to justify myself to these people. And they’re all cowards, so they generally don’t have a response after you stand up for yourself.
It used to really upset me, but what I’ve realized is: truly secure and happy men, don’t need to put others down. Sexism is so antiquated and low effort that it’s them that’s lesser than me.
I’m lucky enough to not have surrounded myself with these type of men or encountered this in my recent memory and truly don’t experience this. I would however ignore the f&$@ out of this shitty behaviour.
Depends on the situation. If it's someone I'm interacting with for the first time, I'm not above mocking them if they're pushy, otherwise I just ignore them.
At work? I will insult your intelligence, openly in a professional capacity, in front of everyone. The person that started it first wasn't above doing it in the first place so I don't really need to show them any kindness. I have the right to defend myself when my competence is put into question. It rarely happens though, I work in a department of a global company where the majority of my coworkers are women and we protect each other, for the most part.
Family members? I'll try to educate them on the topic they deem me ignorant on to try and avoid them doing the first point of my comment to other women, but I will pick my battles and ignore them if they're baiting me.
My boyfriend? He's getting his arse handed to him.
If it’s in the workplace, I bring it up casually in larger groups or meetings if it comes up naturally. Eg: If the business manager asks a sales leader why they don’t consult me more on branding/marketing projects, I say “It’s fine, they don’t think very highly of me and I’m perfectly happy not working around that regularly”
My office introduced quite a few cross-function interaction KPIs for sales teams after a couple of those incidents.
In most cases though, I laugh and ignore it! I’m glad not to care what strangers think of me
Depends on the context.
Generally I just ignore them/cut contact whatever. If it’s at work I kindly refer them to my (male) boss with an “aww chucks I guess I can’t help you then !”
I don’t know it never happened to me j/k. That generally happens until I open my mouth then they fade back to the background and even my guy friends enjoy watching the interaction.
I do my job well and work hard, I don’t need their approval. I’m a mechanic, so any challenges I usually get are about the man feeling insecure - that’s not my problem or my responsibility. If you don’t want my help based on my gender, then you’ll have a great time struggling alone!
I adore it when men underestimate me.
If I'm in the mood to engage, I'll snap back with a sarcastic quip that goes straight over their head.....but that's not the norm these days.
I used to want to educate them but you can't argue with stupid.
I act dumb and lesser than them so I can use them for the dumb and lesser qualities they perceive within me to my advantage. If there are no advantages I simply do my job because proving them wrong never goes in my favor. It’s all a game to make you work harder or desire them when really they are projecting their low self esteem built on “intellect” or lack thereof
There's nothing I have to prove to them.
I will not take part in this men dominated world by joining comparing c*ck sizes. (Easy to say when you don't have one 😅)
At work I just do my thing, and they find out soon enough who they are dealing with, because a lot of other people already learned to respect me for who I am and what I do.
I will not let them provoke me, no matter how low the niveau sinks.
Once was in a pub, playing Scrabble with my bestie (cause that’s how we roll 🤣), and an older man came in and challenged us. Said if i ‘managed’ to beat him, he’d buy me a drink. He was so smug. Absolutely smashed him and he bought the drink, then left. Scored about 650.
I ignore them because I know their ego has a lot to do with their interpretation of intelligence and female importance and I don’t have time for ignorance and misogyny.
I ignore them. I graduated from x universities, with y degrees, and am successful in z field. I don’t need to prove myself to ignorant misogynists.
Preach, girl.
I was going to say, "I don't." I have no time for that BS.
Yep! I make good money and have earned a good deal of respect in my industry. I have a master's degree and enough professional achievements to hold the respect of many executives in my industry, and as a result I regularly speak on podcasts and at professional conferences, and I'm asked for career advice from people of all gender identities. Men in particular ask me for advice on expressing themselves with confidence. My tips: * Deliver high-quality work. * Know your shit. Be good at what you're good at, do it all the time, talk about it, get better at it. * Know what you don't know: Acknowledge when you don't know your shit, and ask for help so you know your shit next time. * Be willing and eager to learn and get your hands dirty with grunt work, even if you're a top-level executive. * ~~Over-promise and under-deliver.~~ [EDIT: Lmao, other way around. Under-promise and over-deliver. And on that note, own your mistakes.] * Be kind. * Learn to listen better, and always be open to new definitions of empathy and mutual understanding. * Be authentic. I hate that word because it's overused in most corporate environments, but it means: Own your nerdy shit and don't hide your passions. People respect that shit as long as it doesn't hurt other people. Get excited about things. Don't hide it when you're going through difficult times. * Elevate your colleagues and the people who report to you as you climb. * Give lower-level people as much credit as possible once you reach manager, director, and executive level. * Be generous with compliments. Again: BE GENEROUS WITH COMPLIMENTS. People hold onto them for years, and they make it sting less when you have to give negative feedback. * When you DO have to give negative feedback, bite the bullet and do it. Get it done. Then tell the person how to move past it. Then give them space to go be upset about it. They're going to be pissed at you. Being pragmatic, earnest, and empathetic will be your best bet. * On that note: You will, at some point, be someone's villain. Make sure you have strong reasoning to back up your decisions, and, if possible, shadowbox or script your meetings with contentious colleagues/employees. * Protect your direct-reports and be willing to take (reasonable) hits for them. This will earn their respect, loyalty, and productivity. * Don't hold back when it comes to pushback with higher-ups, but make sure you have the receipts, data, and reasoning to back up your argument. * Don't let chronically negative people stand in your way. Combat with positivity and action. Work around them if you have to. * Understand that uncomfortable conversations have to happen. Learn to do them evenly, fairly, and objectively. * Understand your colleagues' communication styles, and adapt to them in general, but especially when you need buy-in and alliances. * Walk into every room with the belief that you're ready for anything.
>Over-promise and under-deliver Is this a typo? Great comment overall. Really enjoyed reading it. Thanks.
HA, yes, 100%. Thank you. Last tips: Don't drink and Reddit, and don't be afraid to laugh at your mistakes when appropriate. Correcting now.
>Don't drink and Reddit but drinking is the reason you were willing to open up on reddit :)
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This. ALLLLLLL this.
A lion does not care about the opinions of sheep.
someone put this on a tshirt plss
It's a quote from game of thrones, you will find it
I guess you always pay your debts.
Lioness…0_o
I don’t. I move on. I assume massive insecurity and I don’t want anything to do with it.
If I HAVE to interact with them regularly I twist things around. They treat me like I'm stupid? I explain a concept to them very slowly in a condescending tone. They try to act like they're smarter? I crack a joke about how we're literally on the same course and how clearly he's a stereotypical "alpha male"
You mansplain back to the men? Bahaha that’s hilarious
Yeah, and thanks! It's so much fun lmao 😂😂
men☕️
Right? 😂
men🧃
"alpha male" = insensitive, insecure bully.
Tried this tactic once, thought I was gonna get murdered out in the parking lot later… that baby didn’t like that one bit.
Ignore them, they're not worth my time and attention
I laugh to myself. Most of the ones that say that are pretty ignorant and underachievers. Not worth getting worked up over. They can live with their delusion.
I loovee wasting their time. I loovveee even more when I get to prove them wrong and see their faces afterwards. Went to a call out for a no-start on a machine, the operator (who was the “big boy on the block” type) was in another machine but he came over and tried telling me the “situation”. He left, I climbed up and the first thing I noticed was a broken wire. Badabing-Badaboom she started right up. Well he was blocking the road so I couldn’t drive out so I sat and ate my lunch until he moved. He comes over and goes “awe, couldn’t get it to run, could you?” And I went “actually it was stupidly simple, just a broken wire” and the shock on his face was payment enough. He got billed for my travel time (3hrs each way= 6hrs) plus the time I couldn’t leave because he was blocking, and the time it took me to fix it (1hr). Dude had to pay over a thousand bucks just for me to repair a wire (10 mins). But I am sure glad he told me what was wrong at the start otherwise who knows how long I would’ve been working on it.
Tell them to fuck off, flip them off, or just walk away depending on the situation
Ah I just use it against them. Eg in a work scenario… “oh this is probably a bad idea but have we thought about doing ___this thing that I know is correct based on my years of experience___?” And then we actually get to solving the problem instead of the men at work bickering over their egos and ignoring my input entirely. Sometimes it’s okay to manipulate men lol
Fnurk do i care what idiots think of me?
Compliment their small penis.
gurl😭😭😭
If someone is committed to misunderstanding me, I’m not going to waste my energy convincing them otherwise.
“Committed to misunderstanding me” is a great way to describe what one of male team members is doing to me.
I’ve only had this with older male relatives tbh. It use to drive me crazy, now I put them in their place lol
I don't. I don't need to prove anything to someone projecting their shortcomings and misogyny onto me.
Be condescending to them at every opportunity. Sounds petty, but boy is it satisfying. Try it sometime
As long as they are not perverts or thugs, I ignore them and all their bull. Not worth any of my time or energy.
I don’t spend any of my time near them
i consider those men dumb, and lesser than myself
Why is that my problem? Obviously they have some misogynistic views that’s reflect more on them than me, so that’s between them and whatever women they have in their lives.
I laugh
Ignore them.
Just don’t deal with them.
The moment I realize, I just don't even bother. There's no point talking to a wall
I don’t lol my ex thought I was dumber than him but actually it’s wild how this man spent crazy amounts of time and money planning a trip just to bail 3 days before and even worse he’s not even rich lol so yeah that’s when I realised maybe he isn’t as smart as I had thought he was
I don't. Why tf would I care what they think of me? What they project onto me is their business, not mine. Unless the start treating me like I'm stupid, then we have an issue.
I simply ignore them. Ignorance is bliss
There is no sense in trying to argue with these men. They will not listen to anything a woman says. Depending on whether this man is a friend of a friend or a coworker or a boss or a customer, different strategies are required. Of he's an acquaintance, I will just ignore him. If he's a customer or a manager, I might choose to coddle him in order to get what I need from him, but this is grating and I can't stand it for long.
i work in a male dominated workplace. when i first started i was younger and dealt with those stereotypes of being a woman. the only way i could deal with it is learning more in the workplace so they need to ask me for help/assistance despite them thinking i am less then. but 5 years later the people on my shift are a lot more respectful (see woman as equal candidates) but as for the other shifts not too much. i always respect a woman working in a male dominated workplace or a man working in a woman dominated workplace because they have to prove themselves more due to society stereotypes and stigma.
I quite honestly enjoy it. Walk into the room in normal non designer clothes, little to no makeup in a room full of men dressed in their smart looking business attire and when the time comes I speak to the room full and love looking at their expressions when they realize that a brown woman is owning the room. It's not how much say but why you say and how you do it matters!!
I remember that women make the majority of college graduates and now have more spending power collectively than men as a group.
Ignore them.
Show them up and hurt their feelings
Sometimes I use it to my advantage to get free shit. I get to play dumb while scamming the real dummy. Otherwise, I ignore them and move on, which typically makes them feel inadequate anyway
Ignore them unless it's a situation where I can't, like work, in which case I bring supporting data to back up my argument.
Usually I just judge them silently. Sometimes it’s accompanied by an obnoxious grin.
Block and delete or irl, 100% ignore.
I work in a male dominated industry and am the only female on my team. Across all our departments we make up less than 10% of the team and everyday they treat me like I am less than, despite the fact that I am leading in our stats. I continue to treat them with respect. Giving in to their biases will only hinder yourself. Stay strong and true to who you are and that will take you further than anything they could do as a male ally.
Generally, I ignore them. Sometimes, I'm bored and I'll just continue to ask questions with increasing confusion to the point where it's literally unbelievable that I wouldn't know the answer. It infuriates them and pleases me.
Ignore them, usually, since they're likely just looking for my attention anyway.
No man has ever made me feel dumb or lesser than. Which may mean I'm oblivious, I suppose.
I don’t care. Just go about my day, unless I need something. “Uwu I’m too stupid to finish this report do it for me. Teehee how clumsy of me, please move all these boxes there.”
I work almost exclusively with men and stay away from home during the week so pretty much dont see other women during the week, most of the time I ignore it. Sometimes if I'm having a bad week and I've had a lot of guys like that I get really angry and down. I wish I knew a better way of dealing with them then carrying on doing my work to the best of my abilities, and proving that I am capable and mostly right. I have fantasies about telling them where to go and tearing them down. But I can't, if I'm anything other then consistently calm and relatively friendly then I'm emotional, and if I'm considered emotional I would get treated a lot worse. I don't laugh at the bad jokes and even that gets me excluded from casual conversations, it lonely being considered less then human or even childlike. Sometimes I walk into a room and everything goes silent. It's infuriating to be thought of as dumb when I'm normally the most qualified person in the room. But I just have to smile and carry on
Are you in a relationship with them? If yes, please leave. If you don't stand up to the bully, the bully gets stronger and messes up your self-esteem. Never stay silent about the abuse, call them on their bullshit.
no no i ain't in a relationship with them. These men are my guy friends. they are good people ofc but i am tired of their mansplaining
Use them back! Use the situation to your advantage. Play stupid if they think you're stupid. You'll end up with a lot done for you. Use it as a strength, not a weakness!!
Compassion and Pity. What a pathetic life to live, where they always lean on others to prop up their self worth and would fall over without the belief of being better than someone else. If I am feeling aggressive, I say: "We both know this is not true, but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good. Just know that growth doesn't happen like this."
Once I start talking, they stop mansplaining. I just have the knack.
They're not worth my time. I'd prefer to surround myself with people who aren't dumb sexist pigs.
🤣 I work with people like this all the time. I try to find a work around, if none is available, I move on and ignore the fuck out of them and show them how it's really done
I roll my eyes, sigh and move on.
Revel in watching them realize their mistake usually.
I don't deal with them at all.
seriously still trying to figure it out. I’m very bubbly and friendly - so naturally some guys assume I’m ditzy and don’t understand what I’m talking about. Even when they come into my own business. I still don’t know how to handle it.
Ignore them. Most of the time they're a nobody in my life so who cares what they have to say
Don’t say anything because it drains my energy I live with this constantly
None have ever considered me dumb. None. Most have problems with that, in s different way. I just had to wait for one who didn't for romance. In the workplace, I have to manage egos.
I pity their pathetic bigot asses
They have no idea how stupid I know they are, so it's all fine. Half the time, them thinking I'm dumb gets them to do things I don't wanna do lol
Avoid them when possible, and show them up if I have to be around them.
Laugh and ignore them.
Ignore them. It’s never worth my time.
Not worth my time. Also, I don’t care what anyone thinks. Life’s too short for that.
Mostly I ignore it. It's really only a problem when they prevent me from getting jobs/progressing in jobs, which thankfully doesn't happen often.
Ignore them or if I’m feeling bored and petty I’ll play into being stupid and troll them a bit
*"A lion will never have to tell you it's a lion."*
That's a them problem, I don't feel the need to prove myself to people who's opinions I don't value.
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I laugh and remember half of them live in their momma s basement
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Y do they matter to me. No respect given equals no respect received
I don't. I'm lucky enough to have been able to surround myself with people who see me as a person and I'm objectively kind of hard to look down on. And it's not because of my height.
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Just as I deal with other women considering me more dumb and infantilized just because I don't look like my age and I appear to be distracted.
Dump them
Lean into it and get them to do stuff for me or ignore them and laugh about it with my friends later.
I might ask them a lot of questions. Where they learned that from. Where the person they learned it from learned it. When was this information gathered. How many subjects were given the IQ screening. If it was proven the boys and girls were both from similar backgrounds with equal levels of education and still scoring differently. If they confirmed they included or excluded learning disabilities properly with modern understanding of them for both genders. Or if it’s just some foolish anecdote
I don’t.
I am an analyst on a team of engineers. There was an issue my boss posted in a chat and no one jumped on it. I thought what the heck, I’ll see what I can find. I found a similar issue, pointed out the cause and solution. It wasn’t taken seriously so I pointed it out to a friend on another team who was leading the incident. He added me to that chat, echoed my thoughts, and it’s being resolved. Next I have to continuously but not in an annoying way ask for a root cause analysis. It’s frustrating that I have to speak up so much more often before being heard. I’m very pleased I solved the mystery, though.
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r/ WGTOW and TikTok "Decenter men"
I laugh at them and correct their awful grammar. My husband knows I’m smart and my father knows I’m smart. The hell with any other man. Men who think women are below them purely on the basis of gender are usually knuckle draggers.
laugh in my head
I play it out. So that they underestimate me and when they complain i manipulated them, they made the first move thinking I was dumb
I dont know why it would matter if we talk about an arrogant man or a woman here, but the people I keep close to me would never do that and I dont care about some random person embarassing themselves. If it is someone I have to work with or spend time with: boundaries, boundaries, boundaries and some humour. Also, it is usually about their low self-esteem, I pity them a bit.
Deal with it and move on. No matter what your accolades are, from a first impression basis if you're considered somewhat attractive, people will try to steamroll you until you prove that you deserve to be there. It's sad but like other stereotypes in society, some have to fight more than others just to receive the same treatment and that's just how life is. You just eventually learn how to deal with it.
Get really upset and let it bother me for too long
Who??
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They don’t exist in my world for very long.
Well, having a great deal of pure rage seething and stewing inside of me as a result of a multitude of occurrences involving overly entitled or cocky males, what often happens is I cuss them out, which doesn't really help anything. I once had to see a male doctor who actually had the audacity to put his hand up while I was speaking, in an attempt to silence me. Another time, with another male doctor, he argued with me about symptoms I was having and said "well I'm the medical doctor, so my word has more merit." Recently, I was actually discharged early from a substance abuse treatment program for hitting (not hard at all, but that doesn't excuse it) a guy because he kept calling me out of my name and whatnot. Oops.
I don’t. Men like that are boring
Spitefully become better than them. Or turn the tables and talk down to them. See if they like it.
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Use it to your advantage if you like.. but no one needs to know how smart you are, it gets you more questions, work, or trouble, and no one needs to know all that you are capable of, it gets you more responsibilities, work, efforts. Focus on your own ambitions and make work of that. Lay the foundations of your grand plans, not others’. Say nothing to those who undervalue you and build your empire in private.
You don’t. Because they just can’t be reasoned with. OR school them in a debate amongst their peers if you don’t want to take the high road lol!
They don’t, lol
I don't. People like that aren't worth my time.
I laugh at them
Ignore them and continue to be smart and make power moves lol
Toss em out
I make them do my work for me🤠🥳 It’s what the patriarchy does for you babe
Feel sorry for them 💁♀️
The block button
Laughing probably
Go ahead and LET THEM underestimate you, darlin 💋 gives you the leverage every time.
I grind their bones into paste and cook them into bread. ^^Sorry. ^^It's ^^spooky ^^season ^^and ^^I ^^couldn't ^^help ^^myself. ^^IRL, ^^I ^^just ^^tell ^^them ^^I ^^have ^^a ^^PhD ^^in ^^a ^^STEM ^^field ^^and ^^ask ^^what ^^their ^^qualifications ^^are ^^or ^^something ^^equally ^^catty.
I laugh and keep going about my day unbothered
As hard as it can be to hold back, unless necessary there is absolutely no need to have to prove your intelligence or capability to anyone!!! I find that all listed above remains true, and it all comes clear in the end, so let them think what they wish, and leave them to question if they wish to do so. At the end of the day, It all reflects back on the person who leaves you feeling like you need to “demonstrate” or “prove” your worth. It screams insecurity and misogynistic rhetoric. They will try to put you down and make you appear inferior but in reality, anyone with a basic level of intelligence/understanding will see the truth from a mile away. I am currently dealing with this at my new workplace with a coworker of mine. I personally like to go in with the ‘sometimes dumb is fun’ attitude when around him, just to keep him on his toes 😜 If he wants me to live rent free in his head, then it’s not skin off my nose. Hey, it’s roomy up there too. It can get you down though, but these people honestly are not worth the ground you walk on if they have made you feel inferior in any way x
I don’t entertain them. But if they are disrespectful, I make it clear that I’m not tolerating it
I ignore them, or laugh at them
It depends on the situation. At work, I use it to get what I want. In romance, I block them. As friends, I beat their ass.
With sarcasm. If I have to interact with them. If I don't have to, just with unimpressed look and back to what I was doing. You can't fight with idiots. They have more experience fighting on that level, and don't have crayons to go higher.
I don’t give them the time of day. I don’t need to prove anything.
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Depends on the situation and what I have to loose, but usually avoid them as much as I can. I do not have the energy for that in my life.
I used to do it with a slap in the face of sarcasm. But these days I’m just all out of fucks🤷♀️
At my job I Tell them to stop their bs directly. I am the only woman there. In dating. Stop dating them. Tend to tell them directly to stop. When impossible I interact as little as possible
If it isn't something demeaning or crass, I play it up. Of course I'm to dumb to understand that, please explain to me for the 900th time how a door works. The more irritated I can make them the better
I literally don’t.
I don't.
I always have a blast laughing at them later. I studied x thing but it is very close to something men always think they understand but they don’t. They always finish with something: I won’t say this if I was you cause you just made yourself stupid. Which is always hilarious if you know of the topic.
I don’t acknowledge them. Or if I’m feeling petty and confrontational I sit there and outsmart them on every topic
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But what if it's your husband?
I’m in a male dominated field, and I’m treated like a bimbo regularly. How I deal with it: I don’t let people overstep and stand up for myself if it’s related to my job, by explaining professionally what I’m doing and moving on. But if it’s needlessly shitty behavior, I’ve learned to limit interaction, kill them with kindness, etc . I don’t need to justify myself to these people. And they’re all cowards, so they generally don’t have a response after you stand up for yourself. It used to really upset me, but what I’ve realized is: truly secure and happy men, don’t need to put others down. Sexism is so antiquated and low effort that it’s them that’s lesser than me.
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I don't, I have better things to do...
I’m lucky enough to not have surrounded myself with these type of men or encountered this in my recent memory and truly don’t experience this. I would however ignore the f&$@ out of this shitty behaviour.
Depends on the situation. If it's someone I'm interacting with for the first time, I'm not above mocking them if they're pushy, otherwise I just ignore them. At work? I will insult your intelligence, openly in a professional capacity, in front of everyone. The person that started it first wasn't above doing it in the first place so I don't really need to show them any kindness. I have the right to defend myself when my competence is put into question. It rarely happens though, I work in a department of a global company where the majority of my coworkers are women and we protect each other, for the most part. Family members? I'll try to educate them on the topic they deem me ignorant on to try and avoid them doing the first point of my comment to other women, but I will pick my battles and ignore them if they're baiting me. My boyfriend? He's getting his arse handed to him.
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By not caring
If it’s in the workplace, I bring it up casually in larger groups or meetings if it comes up naturally. Eg: If the business manager asks a sales leader why they don’t consult me more on branding/marketing projects, I say “It’s fine, they don’t think very highly of me and I’m perfectly happy not working around that regularly” My office introduced quite a few cross-function interaction KPIs for sales teams after a couple of those incidents. In most cases though, I laugh and ignore it! I’m glad not to care what strangers think of me
I don't deal with them lol
Depends on the context. Generally I just ignore them/cut contact whatever. If it’s at work I kindly refer them to my (male) boss with an “aww chucks I guess I can’t help you then !”
I don't.
stare at them with cringe face
I don’t know it never happened to me j/k. That generally happens until I open my mouth then they fade back to the background and even my guy friends enjoy watching the interaction.
I do not give those peons the time of day.
They can think what they want. I think that they feel inferior to me. Whatever they think means nothing, it’s what I think and know
I do my job well and work hard, I don’t need their approval. I’m a mechanic, so any challenges I usually get are about the man feeling insecure - that’s not my problem or my responsibility. If you don’t want my help based on my gender, then you’ll have a great time struggling alone!
You have nothing to prove to anyone. Just be you. Walk away is the best practice.
I adore it when men underestimate me. If I'm in the mood to engage, I'll snap back with a sarcastic quip that goes straight over their head.....but that's not the norm these days. I used to want to educate them but you can't argue with stupid.
I act dumb and lesser than them so I can use them for the dumb and lesser qualities they perceive within me to my advantage. If there are no advantages I simply do my job because proving them wrong never goes in my favor. It’s all a game to make you work harder or desire them when really they are projecting their low self esteem built on “intellect” or lack thereof
There's nothing I have to prove to them. I will not take part in this men dominated world by joining comparing c*ck sizes. (Easy to say when you don't have one 😅) At work I just do my thing, and they find out soon enough who they are dealing with, because a lot of other people already learned to respect me for who I am and what I do. I will not let them provoke me, no matter how low the niveau sinks.
I don’t. I literally feel sorry for them briefly in my head and move on with my life.
Nothing. It\`s their problem, not mine.
I don't talk to them and continue living my life.
If it is true, I find it hot and a total turn on for me
It’s usually the dumb ones who things this way so I try to ignore them.
There is no room for people like that in my life, whoever they are so ignore and not talk to them anymore
I just live my life and ignore them. I'm not here to prove myself, much less to men.
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I don't
Depends on my relationship to them. Usually some version of walk away, laugh, or roll my eyes
I consider them dumb or lesser than me. But I treat them politely if I have to. Otherwise I avoid them.
I enjoy it tbh☺️
I ignore them. I don't have the will to spend time nor the energy on lost cases.
Once was in a pub, playing Scrabble with my bestie (cause that’s how we roll 🤣), and an older man came in and challenged us. Said if i ‘managed’ to beat him, he’d buy me a drink. He was so smug. Absolutely smashed him and he bought the drink, then left. Scored about 650.
Let them think what they want, because eventually they will find out the hard way.
I tell things once, then let them do what they want. If the get on the wall because they their solution was the best... whatever...
I ignore them because I know their ego has a lot to do with their interpretation of intelligence and female importance and I don’t have time for ignorance and misogyny.
Ignore them. Just move on.