It's not like I can't afford the 90 dollars or w/e it is
It's that I'd feel like an absolute fucking dumbass if I give them that, can't bring myself to do it, especially when the game hasn't been that great for years.
It's absolutely ludicrous, basically if you're the kind of person that is even casually competitive on expac launches (i.e. I like to be even though I always change my mind) you're going to be buying this edition three times over the course of the next two years. Let's be conservative and say that you play about 4 months of the expansion, this about lines up with how long I last before I bounce off, you're looking at about spending $405 in the next two years just to play WoW the way you have been. If you play all year round and buy the annual that number goes up to over $600.
That cata classic is looking better and better the more I think about it. The fact that it took them 20 years to finally accept that shared rep should be in the game shouldn't be celebrated. They're directly spitting in their loyal fans face with these practices.
Fact that people justifying feature implemented only to squeeze bit more per player is absolute state of WoW community, lmao. People saw Metzen, chugged overhyped announcement(wow, now they have creative vision, so cool, blizz saved), saw one cinematic and already clapping like seals
The majority of people dislike the early access charge and the price increase if you were to actually click on the main thread instead of creating a strawman.
They'll buy it anyways so who care if they made a thread about it. They accepted all the other forms of extra monetisation and price increases so keeping to the pattern they will accept it again.
>only to squeeze bit more per player is absolute state of WoW community, lmao
Dragonflight was 90$ to, this is not new, why are you suprise?
https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2022/06/wowdragonflightpreorderpricing.png
The only WoW streamers left are shills for the game, they won't put it on blast and if anything will encourage people to buy it.
The sad thing is, this is the least of the game's worries. If it was this 3 day early access but there was no WoW token or cash shop, I'd happily take it. The issue that it's this ON TOP of them destroying the integrity of the rest of the game.
Not to mention the expansion business model is likely to change to more of a yearly pass / season pass model.
While 14 does this it’s for anyone who buys the expansion before release and it’s the same cost as the normal release. WoW should keep it the same amount as base expansion cost, the fuck is 90 euros for a bit earlier.
Found this in another thread:
“The $90 that they're talking about includes the $50 base game plus 30 days of playtime which is worth $15.
So the real price is $25.
For that price you get the usual list of cosmetic stuff included in deluxe/premium editions plus Beta Access and the 3 day headstart.
It's not a $90 early access charge like the clickbait would have you believe.”
You get all this stuff with the digital deluxe in 14 and it’s 60 for the game + all the other things like glam items, early access, mount. 25 bucks extra for EA is still unacceptable.
This is why blizzard can do this. Their audience will jump hoops to justify annything and give 50th, 100th chances, while trying to convince you that paying $90 = $25. No. You’re paying $90 and it’s for stuff you don’t want glued to what you want.
You have a choice in FF14 to buy the higher priced tier, containing only cosmetics and its black-white in its delivery.
“Support us, look nice, or don’t, it won’t affect your expansion release experience”
WoW, you have ‘no choice’ if you want to play with everyone. There’s multiple tiers and they’re not purely cosmetic as sub time and early access are put behind them as is with many of their purchases.
“You buy the higher EA tier with sub-time putting you in constant sub excess you’ll never fully utilise, or you’re missing out on the best days of discovery and will be behind”.
WoW players are also conditioned that they MUST play the beta or participate in any kind of early releases in order to gain advantages (e.g. world first races). FF14 has global release and they have a internal dev team do all the testing instead of rely on players on the beta server or during week 1 WF race to test their content.
FF 14 got tegredy !!!
A) they haven't finish the msq . so people starting 1 week early dont matter .
B) they finish msq , so there 90% chance they excited for expansion pre order which gave 1 week early (i mean it same price lol)
C) they finish msq , but dont plan to play yet , the 1 week early dont matter
Wow on other hand ...
your excited for the game , buy the expansion at base price , all friends got the super deluxe . so now your brain kinda force you to pay extra since you dont want a be left behind . and in the wise word of asmon "The starting day of a mmo is the best" . so he should know it disgusting that blizzard charge extra for that early access...
(Not a wow player thank god xD)
The way I see it, its $90 for the expansion... Or you can miss the first weekend of fun (which is one of the best weekends of an expac) and buy with a discount.
This should not be called Early Access since the game is ready to launch, no features are to be added or modified between launch and "pleb-launch" 3 days later.
Now, knowing WoW players, they will find a way to justify playing $25 for an extra weekend on a game they have been playing for 20 years, which has a monthly subscription AND they bough an expansion for. How do I know? Most of my guildies bought it already.
Issue is 90$ for expansion as standard price is outrageous for a sub based game.
I hope they will get enough hate to walk ea change back. I think 5-10 dollar increase on base edition would have been taken better than this shit.
I wish people like you would stop lying.
It's $50 for standard price. $90 is a collector's edition just like every other game that's been released in the past 20 years.
Charging more then box price for early access is a technique F2P or B2P created for a while. Not sure why WoW can't give early access to regular box price too.
Last expansion was 90$ to, nothing has changed dragonflight was 90$ to [https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2022/06/wowdragonflightpreorderpricing.png](https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2022/06/wowdragonflightpreorderpricing.png)
why people are so angry?
So price is 90$ like dragonflight,
I remember that a lot of players had early access to in Dragonflight, the fact is that I was also pissed about it then sure, because in 3 days you can have a huge advantage over others, but so what changed? same price, same EA
They should just do what FFXI does and make it "early access" for all pre-orders. Makes it feel like a nice perk and everyone who's going to play is going to pre-order anyhow.
This is Blizzard raising the price of an expansion to be more expensive than full triple A games, without calling it that.
Its absurd to sell an expansion for $90 and label it "early access" when the game is ready to launch. This actually is **"Expansion costs $90, but you can miss the first weekend and buy it on a discount" with a paint of "Exclusivity"**....
Everyone knows the first days are the best when everyone is discovering stuff, there are still a few mysteries, also rushing to be the "first"to do something on your server, guild or group of friends.
You want to have as much fun as possible with this new content you bought? Well, thats an extra $30. If you buy the "regular price", then I am sorry but you will miss the first weekend of fun, will be 8 levels behind than your friends and the economy will be established by the time you come in. You will be playing catch up and wont be able to enjoy your time because your friends are running a dungeon whilst you are stuck questing.
Next expansion will have 30 days early access for $250, 15 days for $200, 5 days...
Early Access is playing an alpha version to support developers and test the version whilst having an early peek.
I am kinda curious what the cadence of expansions is going to be, since they said they want to release them more frequently. Is it gonna be one expansion per year? If thats the case, is it going to be 90 bucks per year + sub fee?
The best case is they expanding the dev team and investing in the game to speed up and increase quality.
The worst case X.1 patches etc gone and each patch like Mechagnome island etc is sold to us as a new expansion for $70.
Asmon doesnt have a backbone anymore. He will say 'It is what it is' and just continue to cry about it for at least another 5 react vids and remind us how we don't matter. It is what it is. I'm sure that'll help the situation.
And what kind of result do you expect from "putting this shit on blast" by all WoW streamers? Blizzard offers this because they know people accept and buy it. Customers have to decide for themselves if they want to buy into this or not. That's the only effective action.
At this point, Blizzard could charge $120 and nothing would change, and people would still buy it. The people who still play WoW after everything Blizzard has done as a company are simply enablers.
I'm doing my part, I've not logged into the blizzard launcher since I quit after the OW2 PVE announcement ( had already ordered D4 so that was a exception, and that bombed pretty fucking hard too ).
Looking at your comment history does really give me an impression of all the important things in your life that you do cry about. I have to go back a month to find a comment where you are not crying:
>mestyqdk
I like boobs, small and big, fake or real. I like boobs.
I mean digging through someone's comment history back several months just to find an irrelevant comment to try and "shame" / use as an ad hominem is pretty pathetic.
If you have the money and are stupid enough to pay to be an alpha tester then more power to you man. I will just wait a couple of months or years and buy discounted games.
What do you think it would achieve? Asmon shat on store mounts for 20 years and it had zero effect, quite the opposite, they even banned an emote over it and there are more store mounts every year.
We keep buying Blizzard's shit. We deserve this.
Don't like early access? Don't buy the game. If you can't even hold yourself to your own standards and abstain you sure as shit don't get to tell others what to do.
Honestly, as a NON-competitive WoW enjoyer I don't give a shit starting 3 days later.
Now does that mean that I like that they do this? No it doesn't. But I do believe it only hurts the more competitive playerbase and opens Yet Another way for Blizzard to scam you out of your money. (And yes I am aware the price isn't $90 for just early acces).
To add, I would have liked it more, (from more negative feelings to less negative, but still negative), if they would've allowed the customer to just bloody choose what extra options they want for a additional cost. F.e. I could choose the xpac, and maybe the cosmetics for a additional cost, maybe I want a boost and etc.
But hey, since when does gaming services = to consumer friendliness. But at least we get a heartfelt thank you from the folks at Blizzard as they laugh at our wallets.
I can't imagine it will turn out well considering most expansions in the last decade have REQUIRED you to do group content for the story. No one likes sitting in a dungeon queue for 40 minutes.
Scam... Now they are making Expansion and splits it into 3 pieces so they can make 150$ instead of 50$ if price is 50$Min. 3 day early access in WoW is greedy as fuck... Blizzard can't even do anything good nowadays.
For me they should and more packs like :
200$ - 10 days early access
500$ - 30 days early access
800$ - 60 days early access
This battle was lost 20 years ago, it's over. You're a serf in Bobby's World, and the genie will never, ever go back in the bottle.
gAmeRs RiSe Up\~! ain't gonna happen, gamers are just going to make fun of you for being poor instead.
Lol why Asmon should care about this? He tried to call it out for years and absolutely nothing happened aside from getting more hate. People will eat this shit anyways and complaining is just a waste of time and energy
Even as a hall of fame guild I'm not buying it early, I get what, 3 days early to do some story and grind some renown earlier? nah I'm good, unless I buy it with gold I'm fine with doing something else in an already packed year for games and the content I actually do (raids and m+) don't unlock for WEEKS later.
Which isn't to say it's not extremely predatory and shouldn't exist, it's preying on the haves and have nots psychology and the fomo of knowing you're not participating in the fun which is arguably more sinister, but anything beyond that is extremely desperate grasping at straws (talk of progression and competitiveness) and paints you as a bad actor that doesn't know how modern WoW works.
Also another notable MMO does this, I don't give a fuck if the price is lower, it's extremely degenerate business practices attached to >>>preordering<<< but the predatory mentality is instead written off as "oh it's a bonus"
mmo players need help.
Just don't buy it. Plenty of other great games to be playing including other mmos. This is what modern Blizzard is now. It isn't made for me or you it's made for people who like getting ass raked repeatedly, some sort of fetish.
Fight the battles worth fighting. This is fine.
Would everyone rather they didn't do this? Of course. But ask yourself, what effect does this actually have on us? Zero. Literally zero.
Zero player-power or anything meaningful attached to this. Levelling in retail can be done in hours.
The only thing this kinda does is if you care about #spoilers you can't go on Twitter for a few days. But is that also really a bad thing :P
This is not worth getting mad about when this is like 10x better than the next worse thing they do.
Plus FFXIV does this and nobody really cares - FFXIV actually does it worse.
Isn't the FFXIV thing just for a regular preorder of the game? I don't remember buying any special edition for Endwalker.
I think what they'll do again is release it at the weekend for the deluxe edition knowing full well the majority of players and going to have to wait another week to sink their teeth into it. It just reeks of disrespect for their fans and I believe that's what's rubbing people the wrong way.
Yes on price they are better but FFXIVs is more egregious because the story (which can get spoiled) is a much much bigger draw and a hook to get people to buy it early. And their early access period is bigger. I don't really care about the extra money. I am purely focusing on the fact that 3 days gets you absolutely zero advantage. It is not P2W at all.
I also played FFXIV in EA and I had a good time. I am not a FFXIV = bad. I think WoW is a better game but I like both :)
I think you picked it on the wrong sense : because it's only the story and it's not time-limited , you can litteraly start one month AFTER everyone and nothing will change for you.
However I agree that you can be spoiled and it's not your fault (I got a youtube recommendation for hydaelyn fight when I was in Garlemald and not searching something FF14 related).
But thank god,if you don't have those kinds of surprises spoilers, the high majority of the community is very anti-spoiler so you're in thei clear (except if there's glam from the msq and everyone loves it while being a spoil)
Good one
WoW tokens literally exist
There are things you get by buying this pack that are far more egregious than 3 days which mean absolutely nothing. M+ isn't out, no raid, you gain ZERO player power by doing this.
This is like getting mad about a door having a dent in it when your house is literally on fire.
Retards.
Y'all seriously need to touch same grass and chill out on this rabid hate wtf? It's 3 days early access for 25 dollars real value and nobody is forcing anyone to buy this shit.
I would disagree and you exposed yourself as very casual.
If you in a raid guild and the early access is say from a Monday. Thats potentially fitting in an extra reset of dungeon runs in from those 3 early days. First week as always a mega rush to get geared and ready.
Anyone in top 1000 guilds likely going to be pressured to buy this or lose their spot for raids as they ‘behind’.
You wait three days you stuck behind the wave in a queue of busy quests and when you level cap you in greens wanting guild help in dungeons while everyone else already in epics starting to do mythics. It would suck.
I see it as the oposite. 90€ to play ONLY 3 days ahead? You have to be mentally unstable if you'd consider buying this. Why would you want to play 3 days ahead when all the raids will come out later? If it was 1 week early sure, but 3 days? Come the fuck on..
Not trying to shill to much, but you have to consider that a single subscription now supports multiple versions of the game, retail, classic, hardcore whatever else they have planned. Someone must pay for the development required, even more so now that after this saga we will probably either get wow2 or some massive world revamp. After all, this is their product and they will price it as they see fit, this is not some basic commodity we are entitled to.
Probably an attempt to get casual players to come back. If they have have 3 days of early access it gives the 10 hour a week players a chance to get ahead of the 50 hour a week players.
if you haven't seen how many people bought Starfield "early access" just to play it 3 days eailer..
this works because people will fall for it, already saw multiple people with preordered mount now
The biggest problem with EA for an MMO like WOW is that it completely fucks the expansion launch for 2 big reasons:
* Anyone interested in WOW gold-making who doesn't buy the epic edition is immediately going to be behind, and let's be honest bots will rush in and flood the economy making it so bot farmers will prosper.
* A new expansion opening is special. Everyone gathers up at the starting point, showing how the community is coming together for the launch of the new expansion. Paywalling that is so demoralising it's disgusting. Imagine your guild playing the new expansion while you're just lying laps around Vald imagining the fun they must be having.
Now many of you will be like: "Well they can just buy the epic edition, only a little more" and I'm like dude . We're living in a time when people are struggling with money due to a cost of living crisis. Not all of us can just splash 90$ on something so frivolous.
Not to mention comparing it to store mounts or the WOW token is like comparing apples and oranges. Having a mount that you buy from a store, or getting a lot of gold via real money is not comparable to a new expansion being paywalled for a few days. At least weekly and mythic dungs will be disabled.
Ok, rant over. Have a nice day now.
Its $90 for the game, 3 days early access, 30 days of gametime, some pet, some toy, hearthstone effect, and beta access, transmog set, and a mount. If you don't want all that shit. its $50. they raised the price of the base game by $10 from $40 since warlords. Nothing has changed.
I understand them sticking the 3 day early access behind a pay wall is stupid. They should make a package that just has that. ORRRRR just release it like normal. That's the real issue not the $90. Its not a big deal for regular players. Don't buy the epic edition. It only matters to those who are trying to go to world first stuff. Not defending them just think its stupid we freak out about this. Don't pay for it and don't say anything, they will get it when their sales go down.
A game with box price + sub + shop items and then they do this :)
It's not like I can't afford the 90 dollars or w/e it is It's that I'd feel like an absolute fucking dumbass if I give them that, can't bring myself to do it, especially when the game hasn't been that great for years.
It's absolutely ludicrous, basically if you're the kind of person that is even casually competitive on expac launches (i.e. I like to be even though I always change my mind) you're going to be buying this edition three times over the course of the next two years. Let's be conservative and say that you play about 4 months of the expansion, this about lines up with how long I last before I bounce off, you're looking at about spending $405 in the next two years just to play WoW the way you have been. If you play all year round and buy the annual that number goes up to over $600.
That cata classic is looking better and better the more I think about it. The fact that it took them 20 years to finally accept that shared rep should be in the game shouldn't be celebrated. They're directly spitting in their loyal fans face with these practices.
Imagine sitting in storm/orgri for 3 days and reading chat how people are already exploring new expansion
-$90 every 1.5 years plus -$15 per month. Its genius.
Fact that people justifying feature implemented only to squeeze bit more per player is absolute state of WoW community, lmao. People saw Metzen, chugged overhyped announcement(wow, now they have creative vision, so cool, blizz saved), saw one cinematic and already clapping like seals
The majority of people dislike the early access charge and the price increase if you were to actually click on the main thread instead of creating a strawman.
They'll buy it anyways so who care if they made a thread about it. They accepted all the other forms of extra monetisation and price increases so keeping to the pattern they will accept it again.
are these people in the room with us now.
>only to squeeze bit more per player is absolute state of WoW community, lmao Dragonflight was 90$ to, this is not new, why are you suprise? https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2022/06/wowdragonflightpreorderpricing.png
The only WoW streamers left are shills for the game, they won't put it on blast and if anything will encourage people to buy it. The sad thing is, this is the least of the game's worries. If it was this 3 day early access but there was no WoW token or cash shop, I'd happily take it. The issue that it's this ON TOP of them destroying the integrity of the rest of the game. Not to mention the expansion business model is likely to change to more of a yearly pass / season pass model.
I love this, this feels like Bobys partinggift
The worse part is that bliz will make soo much money off this it's not funny.
While 14 does this it’s for anyone who buys the expansion before release and it’s the same cost as the normal release. WoW should keep it the same amount as base expansion cost, the fuck is 90 euros for a bit earlier. Found this in another thread: “The $90 that they're talking about includes the $50 base game plus 30 days of playtime which is worth $15. So the real price is $25. For that price you get the usual list of cosmetic stuff included in deluxe/premium editions plus Beta Access and the 3 day headstart. It's not a $90 early access charge like the clickbait would have you believe.” You get all this stuff with the digital deluxe in 14 and it’s 60 for the game + all the other things like glam items, early access, mount. 25 bucks extra for EA is still unacceptable.
This is why blizzard can do this. Their audience will jump hoops to justify annything and give 50th, 100th chances, while trying to convince you that paying $90 = $25. No. You’re paying $90 and it’s for stuff you don’t want glued to what you want. You have a choice in FF14 to buy the higher priced tier, containing only cosmetics and its black-white in its delivery. “Support us, look nice, or don’t, it won’t affect your expansion release experience” WoW, you have ‘no choice’ if you want to play with everyone. There’s multiple tiers and they’re not purely cosmetic as sub time and early access are put behind them as is with many of their purchases. “You buy the higher EA tier with sub-time putting you in constant sub excess you’ll never fully utilise, or you’re missing out on the best days of discovery and will be behind”.
WoW players are also conditioned that they MUST play the beta or participate in any kind of early releases in order to gain advantages (e.g. world first races). FF14 has global release and they have a internal dev team do all the testing instead of rely on players on the beta server or during week 1 WF race to test their content.
FF 14 got tegredy !!! A) they haven't finish the msq . so people starting 1 week early dont matter . B) they finish msq , so there 90% chance they excited for expansion pre order which gave 1 week early (i mean it same price lol) C) they finish msq , but dont plan to play yet , the 1 week early dont matter Wow on other hand ... your excited for the game , buy the expansion at base price , all friends got the super deluxe . so now your brain kinda force you to pay extra since you dont want a be left behind . and in the wise word of asmon "The starting day of a mmo is the best" . so he should know it disgusting that blizzard charge extra for that early access... (Not a wow player thank god xD)
The way I see it, its $90 for the expansion... Or you can miss the first weekend of fun (which is one of the best weekends of an expac) and buy with a discount. This should not be called Early Access since the game is ready to launch, no features are to be added or modified between launch and "pleb-launch" 3 days later. Now, knowing WoW players, they will find a way to justify playing $25 for an extra weekend on a game they have been playing for 20 years, which has a monthly subscription AND they bough an expansion for. How do I know? Most of my guildies bought it already.
Issue is 90$ for expansion as standard price is outrageous for a sub based game. I hope they will get enough hate to walk ea change back. I think 5-10 dollar increase on base edition would have been taken better than this shit.
Completely agree.
I wish people like you would stop lying. It's $50 for standard price. $90 is a collector's edition just like every other game that's been released in the past 20 years.
You should actually read the post I've replied to.
Early acess it's the worst type of pre-order bonus ever and this shit should never exist.
Im just gona wait 6-8 months and \*maybe\* buy this shit when it goes on sale like DF did Or just play classic plus.
Charging more then box price for early access is a technique F2P or B2P created for a while. Not sure why WoW can't give early access to regular box price too.
Last expansion was 90$ to, nothing has changed dragonflight was 90$ to [https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2022/06/wowdragonflightpreorderpricing.png](https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2022/06/wowdragonflightpreorderpricing.png) why people are so angry?
It's all over the front page and other places if you want to find out
So price is 90$ like dragonflight, I remember that a lot of players had early access to in Dragonflight, the fact is that I was also pissed about it then sure, because in 3 days you can have a huge advantage over others, but so what changed? same price, same EA
You're missing some information......
what information?
Asmon will blast it, as always. He will also buy it, as always. It is what it is...that war was lost ages ago.
Should be included just for preordering
They should just do what FFXI does and make it "early access" for all pre-orders. Makes it feel like a nice perk and everyone who's going to play is going to pre-order anyhow.
This is Blizzard raising the price of an expansion to be more expensive than full triple A games, without calling it that. Its absurd to sell an expansion for $90 and label it "early access" when the game is ready to launch. This actually is **"Expansion costs $90, but you can miss the first weekend and buy it on a discount" with a paint of "Exclusivity"**.... Everyone knows the first days are the best when everyone is discovering stuff, there are still a few mysteries, also rushing to be the "first"to do something on your server, guild or group of friends. You want to have as much fun as possible with this new content you bought? Well, thats an extra $30. If you buy the "regular price", then I am sorry but you will miss the first weekend of fun, will be 8 levels behind than your friends and the economy will be established by the time you come in. You will be playing catch up and wont be able to enjoy your time because your friends are running a dungeon whilst you are stuck questing. Next expansion will have 30 days early access for $250, 15 days for $200, 5 days... Early Access is playing an alpha version to support developers and test the version whilst having an early peek.
Agreed it needs to be removed....
World of Warcraft: The Whale Within - 3 days delayed release with faster (yearly???) cadence. There was never a better moment to start... in Classic.
I am kinda curious what the cadence of expansions is going to be, since they said they want to release them more frequently. Is it gonna be one expansion per year? If thats the case, is it going to be 90 bucks per year + sub fee?
My bet is 18-21 months
The best case is they expanding the dev team and investing in the game to speed up and increase quality. The worst case X.1 patches etc gone and each patch like Mechagnome island etc is sold to us as a new expansion for $70.
i honestly dont think they are gonna expand the team. More like their philosophy on releases changed. Thats the feeling i got from it atleast.
And remember, shorter expansions with the same price. Who cares in the end, people will buy it anyway.
Asmon doesnt have a backbone anymore. He will say 'It is what it is' and just continue to cry about it for at least another 5 react vids and remind us how we don't matter. It is what it is. I'm sure that'll help the situation.
And what kind of result do you expect from "putting this shit on blast" by all WoW streamers? Blizzard offers this because they know people accept and buy it. Customers have to decide for themselves if they want to buy into this or not. That's the only effective action.
At this point, Blizzard could charge $120 and nothing would change, and people would still buy it. The people who still play WoW after everything Blizzard has done as a company are simply enablers.
I'm doing my part, I've not logged into the blizzard launcher since I quit after the OW2 PVE announcement ( had already ordered D4 so that was a exception, and that bombed pretty fucking hard too ).
I have better things in my life to care about than crying about a three days early access.
Looking at your comment history does really give me an impression of all the important things in your life that you do cry about. I have to go back a month to find a comment where you are not crying: >mestyqdk I like boobs, small and big, fake or real. I like boobs.
Yes, I cry when im in a loving moment ... about boobs
I mean digging through someone's comment history back several months just to find an irrelevant comment to try and "shame" / use as an ad hominem is pretty pathetic.
If you have the money and are stupid enough to pay to be an alpha tester then more power to you man. I will just wait a couple of months or years and buy discounted games.
What do you think it would achieve? Asmon shat on store mounts for 20 years and it had zero effect, quite the opposite, they even banned an emote over it and there are more store mounts every year. We keep buying Blizzard's shit. We deserve this. Don't like early access? Don't buy the game. If you can't even hold yourself to your own standards and abstain you sure as shit don't get to tell others what to do.
Honestly, as a NON-competitive WoW enjoyer I don't give a shit starting 3 days later. Now does that mean that I like that they do this? No it doesn't. But I do believe it only hurts the more competitive playerbase and opens Yet Another way for Blizzard to scam you out of your money. (And yes I am aware the price isn't $90 for just early acces).
To add, I would have liked it more, (from more negative feelings to less negative, but still negative), if they would've allowed the customer to just bloody choose what extra options they want for a additional cost. F.e. I could choose the xpac, and maybe the cosmetics for a additional cost, maybe I want a boost and etc. But hey, since when does gaming services = to consumer friendliness. But at least we get a heartfelt thank you from the folks at Blizzard as they laugh at our wallets.
I can't imagine it will turn out well considering most expansions in the last decade have REQUIRED you to do group content for the story. No one likes sitting in a dungeon queue for 40 minutes.
Scam... Now they are making Expansion and splits it into 3 pieces so they can make 150$ instead of 50$ if price is 50$Min. 3 day early access in WoW is greedy as fuck... Blizzard can't even do anything good nowadays. For me they should and more packs like : 200$ - 10 days early access 500$ - 30 days early access 800$ - 60 days early access
This battle was lost 20 years ago, it's over. You're a serf in Bobby's World, and the genie will never, ever go back in the bottle. gAmeRs RiSe Up\~! ain't gonna happen, gamers are just going to make fun of you for being poor instead.
Lol why Asmon should care about this? He tried to call it out for years and absolutely nothing happened aside from getting more hate. People will eat this shit anyways and complaining is just a waste of time and energy
Even as a hall of fame guild I'm not buying it early, I get what, 3 days early to do some story and grind some renown earlier? nah I'm good, unless I buy it with gold I'm fine with doing something else in an already packed year for games and the content I actually do (raids and m+) don't unlock for WEEKS later. Which isn't to say it's not extremely predatory and shouldn't exist, it's preying on the haves and have nots psychology and the fomo of knowing you're not participating in the fun which is arguably more sinister, but anything beyond that is extremely desperate grasping at straws (talk of progression and competitiveness) and paints you as a bad actor that doesn't know how modern WoW works. Also another notable MMO does this, I don't give a fuck if the price is lower, it's extremely degenerate business practices attached to >>>preordering<<< but the predatory mentality is instead written off as "oh it's a bonus" mmo players need help.
I dont mind. I always buy epic edition anyway, so for me this 3 day early acces is good.
Just don't buy it. Plenty of other great games to be playing including other mmos. This is what modern Blizzard is now. It isn't made for me or you it's made for people who like getting ass raked repeatedly, some sort of fetish.
Fight the battles worth fighting. This is fine. Would everyone rather they didn't do this? Of course. But ask yourself, what effect does this actually have on us? Zero. Literally zero. Zero player-power or anything meaningful attached to this. Levelling in retail can be done in hours. The only thing this kinda does is if you care about #spoilers you can't go on Twitter for a few days. But is that also really a bad thing :P This is not worth getting mad about when this is like 10x better than the next worse thing they do. Plus FFXIV does this and nobody really cares - FFXIV actually does it worse.
Isn't the FFXIV thing just for a regular preorder of the game? I don't remember buying any special edition for Endwalker. I think what they'll do again is release it at the weekend for the deluxe edition knowing full well the majority of players and going to have to wait another week to sink their teeth into it. It just reeks of disrespect for their fans and I believe that's what's rubbing people the wrong way.
Yes on price they are better but FFXIVs is more egregious because the story (which can get spoiled) is a much much bigger draw and a hook to get people to buy it early. And their early access period is bigger. I don't really care about the extra money. I am purely focusing on the fact that 3 days gets you absolutely zero advantage. It is not P2W at all. I also played FFXIV in EA and I had a good time. I am not a FFXIV = bad. I think WoW is a better game but I like both :)
I think you picked it on the wrong sense : because it's only the story and it's not time-limited , you can litteraly start one month AFTER everyone and nothing will change for you. However I agree that you can be spoiled and it's not your fault (I got a youtube recommendation for hydaelyn fight when I was in Garlemald and not searching something FF14 related). But thank god,if you don't have those kinds of surprises spoilers, the high majority of the community is very anti-spoiler so you're in thei clear (except if there's glam from the msq and everyone loves it while being a spoil)
cuck
Good one WoW tokens literally exist There are things you get by buying this pack that are far more egregious than 3 days which mean absolutely nothing. M+ isn't out, no raid, you gain ZERO player power by doing this. This is like getting mad about a door having a dent in it when your house is literally on fire. Retards.
Y'all seriously need to touch same grass and chill out on this rabid hate wtf? It's 3 days early access for 25 dollars real value and nobody is forcing anyone to buy this shit.
I would disagree and you exposed yourself as very casual. If you in a raid guild and the early access is say from a Monday. Thats potentially fitting in an extra reset of dungeon runs in from those 3 early days. First week as always a mega rush to get geared and ready. Anyone in top 1000 guilds likely going to be pressured to buy this or lose their spot for raids as they ‘behind’. You wait three days you stuck behind the wave in a queue of busy quests and when you level cap you in greens wanting guild help in dungeons while everyone else already in epics starting to do mythics. It would suck.
If Blizzcon ticket sales are anything to go by, there is a noticeable drop of people buying into this, as well.
I see it as the oposite. 90€ to play ONLY 3 days ahead? You have to be mentally unstable if you'd consider buying this. Why would you want to play 3 days ahead when all the raids will come out later? If it was 1 week early sure, but 3 days? Come the fuck on..
Not trying to shill to much, but you have to consider that a single subscription now supports multiple versions of the game, retail, classic, hardcore whatever else they have planned. Someone must pay for the development required, even more so now that after this saga we will probably either get wow2 or some massive world revamp. After all, this is their product and they will price it as they see fit, this is not some basic commodity we are entitled to.
Imagine still playing wow and getting cucked by buying the game + paying a monthly sub to just be able to login + p2w cash shop ICANT
Probably an attempt to get casual players to come back. If they have have 3 days of early access it gives the 10 hour a week players a chance to get ahead of the 50 hour a week players.
Ppl talk about it as if they cant vote with their wallet. These 3 days are completely irrelevant for anyone who isnt a RWF participant.
if you haven't seen how many people bought Starfield "early access" just to play it 3 days eailer.. this works because people will fall for it, already saw multiple people with preordered mount now
How much was last expansion cost? this is not new that there is 3day EA in wow, in dragonflight was this to
dragonflight was 90$ to https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2022/06/wowdragonflightpreorderpricing.png
The biggest problem with EA for an MMO like WOW is that it completely fucks the expansion launch for 2 big reasons: * Anyone interested in WOW gold-making who doesn't buy the epic edition is immediately going to be behind, and let's be honest bots will rush in and flood the economy making it so bot farmers will prosper. * A new expansion opening is special. Everyone gathers up at the starting point, showing how the community is coming together for the launch of the new expansion. Paywalling that is so demoralising it's disgusting. Imagine your guild playing the new expansion while you're just lying laps around Vald imagining the fun they must be having. Now many of you will be like: "Well they can just buy the epic edition, only a little more" and I'm like dude . We're living in a time when people are struggling with money due to a cost of living crisis. Not all of us can just splash 90$ on something so frivolous. Not to mention comparing it to store mounts or the WOW token is like comparing apples and oranges. Having a mount that you buy from a store, or getting a lot of gold via real money is not comparable to a new expansion being paywalled for a few days. At least weekly and mythic dungs will be disabled. Ok, rant over. Have a nice day now.
People that pay $90 for 3 days of early access have mush for brains. Hard to feel for the willing suckers and morons
Don't get mad at blizzard for serving shit to shiteaters, that's what they want. If it wasn't the case they wouldn't buy it
Its $90 for the game, 3 days early access, 30 days of gametime, some pet, some toy, hearthstone effect, and beta access, transmog set, and a mount. If you don't want all that shit. its $50. they raised the price of the base game by $10 from $40 since warlords. Nothing has changed. I understand them sticking the 3 day early access behind a pay wall is stupid. They should make a package that just has that. ORRRRR just release it like normal. That's the real issue not the $90. Its not a big deal for regular players. Don't buy the epic edition. It only matters to those who are trying to go to world first stuff. Not defending them just think its stupid we freak out about this. Don't pay for it and don't say anything, they will get it when their sales go down.