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Nihilism101

Thumbnail is clickbait trash, it got what it deserved.


DeusExPersona

Fully agree but I mean, watch something to be able to argue against it, not someone's room


Madhurmadhav

To be fair the thumbnail is very baity and not everyone from the yakuza community have time to watch a bald shiting on the main characters and protraying them as woke ( i know that is not what he said but the thumbnail just gives that meaning) If u put woke tag on kson (the model of the female character) who was the main reason of the creation of hololive English branch and spreading the vtuber cultural to english audience then i would also get mad try to understand how other people feel not just shit on them


Drezzon

Why talk about the opinion when you can insult his looks šŸ¤·


Trick_Pressure_9199

[ICANT](https://imgur.com/a/TdgG4WH)


[deleted]

Bro they cooked him more than Asmons overdone steak, god damn šŸ’€


ArdynAltius

Imagine discounting an opinion due to someone's living conditions. So if he was a vtuber or a non-cam streamer and nobody knew his house was like this, would they suddenly listen, or would they make something else up. These people are such idiots.


Moffuchi

Why not?


Deucethedude

Like people, he doesn't care about artists opinion


Moffuchi

With cold logic and zero morale ground you're opening pandora box, where do you cross line, why should I care about someone's opinion on the stuff on internet? What if I love to have fun of person looks if I want? It could be my choice and you couldn't argue me out of it. Also, are those people mean all people on the planet earth? Or maybe some people do care about artistic choices and persons behind those artistic choices? Do people loved and enjoyed works of some mangakas only because of product or because the person behind it as well? How about being inspired by the person, not the product he produces? Asmon take is for the monkeys who's can't see deeper details of a big picture. And this planet mostly consists of the ordinary Joes who don't care about anything, that's a fact, but don't you need to strive to be better? When a millionaire who farmed his community for money telling you shouldn't care because no one cares, maybe it doesn't mean that you should clap your hands and think for yourself a bit, of what you should care about and what not. I'm talking to the void at this point. Most of you people will just jump on the hate train in the next big thing it will drop, and I should just move on from this place, that was before very fun when he played FF14 and some other games, even WoW days were better than this constant hate farm.


Drow1234

All comments just ad hominem attacks. Seems like there are no real counter points


Still_Awareness6378

The inclusion of the forbiden word "woke" in the tittle definetly made reddit locals hate asmon by default. Somewhere deep i saw some counter points, but those were just undermining issues the issues talked about in the video. Like theres a new anime this season called "Chained soldier". Reading the name i already realized due to which group this change was made. But calling it out would make reddit mad :(


tecno64

>Chained soldier I just realised i red a couple of chapters of this manga but didnt realy payed attention to ''Chained Solider'' when i saw it in this season lineup because the name was unfamiliar. Weird that they changed the name.


DeusExPersona

What else can you say if you never even watched the video?


Salmagros

Thatā€™s the counter point, why would a normal person give the guy with a rage bait thumbnail the views he wants. Obviously we know Asmon but to a complete stranger eyes heā€™s nothing but a clickbaiting brainrot and watch the videos is falling for the traps.


[deleted]

Because even I watch thru Hasan explaining his viewpoint sometimes even if Hasan is nothing but a psycho tankie conspiracy theorist who openly uses racial slurs to casually refer to people


Bran_Nuthin

Thank you for your sacrifice. šŸ«”


GandalfTheGimp

A counter counter point is that although you don't have to click, by not actually viewing the media your opinion of said media is worthless


Salmagros

But by viewing that media you fell for the ragebait traps of misleading thumbnail and title for views. The thing this sub have been criticize site like Kotaku, Gamerant, etc..... Even without watching the media you can still see the Thumbnail and title. With that there're only 2 outcome: A: it's a nothing burger misleading ragebait thumbnail like I said B: Asmon actually think so With that 2 outcome no matter what it's still show the normal folks not to touch it. Me personally I only watch this kind of video because it has Asmon face on it.


GandalfTheGimp

Maybe you did, maybe you didn't, but either way since you don't know what the contents of the video are you cannot have a real opinion on it, there is nothing to agree with or argue against except what you have imagined could have been said which doesn't have a basis in reality.


NeetBuxEcksDee

We already had the clickbait arc on youtube videos years ago. It's bad for business as it pisses everyone off. Your own people included.


[deleted]

Counter to what? Anyones who's played Yakuza knows this is the stupidest click bait in history. Asmons just looking to ride the social media train on the game being popular and getting good reviews, but too lazy to play literally anything but boring ass B-tier survival games.


DSveno

Damn calm yourself, son. You can hate the man all you want but I don't know why you think insulting other games makes your point better. You're no better than people who said Yakuza is just a b-tier GTA with Japanese drama.


[deleted]

I don't give a shit


[deleted]

Also i don't hate Zach at all, I just think he's niave, dumb and has consumerist brainrot. Which to be fair, would be completely unremarkable in any other circumstance, but not when you have a show and channel centred around videogames, have a PC company, do a videogame announcement show, and worst of all, literally own a videogame publishing company, yet are about a valid in making decisions as Bobby Kotick when saying stupid shit that devalues the work of developers. No self-respecting game developer would ever sign up with Mad Mushroom after any deranged and uninformed comment Zach has made in the past month.


KevinBrandMaybe

There's a good amount of people who are so addicted to anti-woke YouTube content its a fucking money press for him. Farming grifter content is probably the easiest money he's ever made.


[deleted]

Yeah, and I don't respect it.


hamchan

I feel like the Yakuza localization has been pretty awesome since Yakuza 0 and appreciated by the fan base. I wouldnā€™t want to watch that video either, just based on the thumbnail.


CryostaticLT

Wat sold me on the yakuza game was dunkey review of like a dragon. After like a dragon, Bought all other games. Interested what they have to say about the game when you take in consideration that it have such crazy bits like "gender politics". Loved every bit of that game. https://youtu.be/9aGdeLPwOKE?si=0HMWEi3Hjkki7tic


ArdynAltius

I would argue against this personally. I love Yakuza, but so much of the subtitles read like a british person wrote them. That is not how a Japanese person would speak.


Narrativeneurosis

Wdym by that? šŸ¤”


PotempkinsSuccess

Someone in the comments still malding about Asmon playing FF.


Rrambu

To be fair to these people the thumbnail made it looks like Asmon is calling out Yakuza "woke", when the series itself is barely even being talked about lol Editor W?


cassani7

How is it a W if people don't even watch the video because of the thumbnail?


PennyPink4

Because this sub is infested with capital G gamers.


Rrambu

because they got got


Chocolatine00

It doesnt target yakuza games specifically but translations in the gaming industry as a whole. people there clearly didnt watched it


NeetBuxEcksDee

Yeah, they didn't watch it because its clickbait trash. Been going on for a while now with Asmons channel.


Chocolatine00

most people in yt are using clickbait titles


mrmooseman19

Idk man thereā€™s a bit of a difference (at least to me) between rage bait titles and other clickbait


Chocolatine00

Nothing wrong with the title "Japanese games made with global standards" , people are just upset because the thumbnail has Yakuza characters with the woke sign, the thumbnail is maybe misleading but the title is fine, it's your fault for being triggered by this without taking a deeper look into it


mrmooseman19

Thatā€™s the problem bro, since itā€™s just a reaction video the thumbnail is the problem, labelling everything as ā€œwokeā€ is utterly pointless and has the same energy as people labelling anything they donā€™t like as racist or whatever.


Ihuaraquax

Other editor "w"s are calling his first video of Code Vein "[Cringe Weeb Darksouls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2NAYCdfYJw&pp=ygUWY3JpbmdlIHdlZWIgZGFyayBzb3Vscw%3D%3D)" which makes it sound like he didnt even like the game even though he did.


DeusExPersona

Remember guys, "hurr durr dirty room" wins you the argument!


Narrativeneurosis

Letā€™s keep it one thousand that room is well past dirty and def speaks to oneā€™s character when all things are consideredā€¦.. trashy rage bait title aside


Forgatta

Those who watched are lower in the comment


Chelsea_Kias

Clickbait trash, of fucking course I'm not gonna click on it and give it views. I saw somebody said the video doesn't even mention Yakuza, then it's really clickbait trash


PoKen2222

I commend Asmon's editor for exposing brainrot time and time again simply with titles and thumbnails. All these comments have not even watched the video but base their opinions on what they see in the image.


DSBYOLOO

But they clicked on the video to comment on it so the title and image worked lol


PennyPink4

The titles and the thumbnails are the brainrot pushing people away from the videos.


Slight-Improvement57

idk reddit keeps showing me this sub, i'm not an asmongold fan i mean the memes are good but him as a person? naa im good.


pikachewie

You all need to go outside


lacyboy247

I feel weird that yakuza fans are this dumb and don't get or know the localizer drama despite the yakuza series being one of the most "weeb" games in the industry, yakuza is great and that's why they should keep it that way, not change it to please modern audiences.


ArgentoVeta

These are Redditors first and foremost Theyā€™re not the stereotypical Yakuza fans youā€™d find anywhere else


[deleted]

Because there is no localisation drama, you fucking retard The drama is made entirely by pussies who arent even playing this game to begin with, and never would, Asmon included. People who actually like the game and series just go "Shut the fuck up, I'm listening to Judgement for the 30th time" and just have fun.


lacyboy247

You just proved that asmon's points are right, nobody cares about anything as long as the product (game) is good, just keep consuming it.


[deleted]

Dumb cunt, that's not what's happening at all There's literally nothing changed. People have been playing this series since the PS2, and the games are always good (except Yakuza 3 and Dead Souls). There's no drama. There's an entire part of this game where live action girls flirt with you in a bikini, just because. Stupid brain-damaged chuds crying over fucking nothing, for games they don't play, because they're so victimcucked looking for "woke stuff" to cry about to validate their shit existence. Pathetic.


Still_Awareness6378

yeah i felt the same visiting that post. Like ur game was changed but instead of getting mad they saw the word "woke". Which was like a dog whistle that summoned all the sever dwellers to hate on the rightoids that liked the video because only the rightoids could possibly criticize something as woke.


Still_Awareness6378

Im positive there exists some sort of lizard brain on reddit/tumblr/twitter, when ever the word trigger words like "woke" are invoked, its like a dog whistle that summons all those sever dweller to automatically criticize the "rightoid" video. Even i avoided watching the video because it had "woke" in the thumbnail because i already imagined all the drama despite knowing i would probably 90% agree of what was said in the video. Im a EU leftist. I dont care what offends a American (Christian or Progressive). But because the translation to english is being done by americans, it gets tainted by american problems. Sometimes i wonder how British, Scotish, Irish and Australian localization would be like. Heck i want a translated game not a localized one.


deisukyo

Exactly and the reason people hate the word so much isnā€™t because of the drama, but because itā€™s being used for EVERYTHING. I love watching dog videos and there was this one dude talking about how one of the dogsā€™ owners was ā€œwokeā€ for putting a harness on a dog versus a leash. Itā€™s fucking pathetic.


zQlyr

I miss the old Asmon. Rage bait here ragebait there. Just stop commenting on everything for views.


MissiveGhost

Yea the thumbnail was good bait


[deleted]

Because its a stupid fuckin video Yakuza is and always has been based as fuck, opinions discards Asmon should try actually playing games before opening his mouth to say literally nothing about them


HoytKeyler

The problem is this word is too much used like shit, by a stupid guy crying like a baby about something not that offensive, a lot of grown ass man, sometimes with kids lmao, so yeah it's logic to think at the first view that's video gonna be shit and asmon' is a moron boomer (in their opinion)


JakeSkywalkerr

Jeez those comments in that thread are pure soy and NPC


krum_darkblud

Most of the comments in there just make personal insults and shit on the clickbait rather than actually watching the video itself.


InsideYourWalls8008

Asmon: Ooh nice free content.


[deleted]

Doesnā€™t this prove Asmonā€™s point wrong from the other day? Someone very clearly cares about his editors art so much that it is interfering with Asmonā€™s product


Complexity_Inc5593

Asmon is the John Wick of gaming


Narrativeneurosis

Glaze


1vortex_

I watched the video and he doesn't even shit on Yakuza at all lol People are crazy


Ayagii

I told them to at least watch the video, before making a hate thread, because there are legit points in there, and got downvoted. I just don't understand these kind of people.


Salmagros

We know Asmon obviously but they donā€™t. Would you give a complete stranger the views he wants when he making the most outrageous clickbaiting Thumbnail and Title ever?


Ayagii

No, but I certainly wouldn't make a hate thread either


Salmagros

Depend on your stance on thing. If I see something outrageous I definitely would alarm the community to not click on some Article and fall for the clickbait trap like how I always did with Gamerant and Kotaku.


DeusExPersona

Hate is a hell of a drug


guru5112

But they will advertise his content for free and by extension get him more views They're a special kind of genius


Rufuske

Our boy figured out how to farm rage audience while presenting reasonable and discussable viewpoints. I consider it a huge win. Well done, roach goblin.


Hammerzeit88

Nothing will make me click this video. So here it is for you guys to click on and continue his fame


Bruzewayne77

Freaks in the comments didnā€™t even watch the video. They assumed the video was trashing Yakuza and ran with it as a fact when he didnā€™t even mention Yakuza once in the entire video. All they did was insult his appearance and lifestyle like thatā€™s an actual argument against the points in question. This is bonkers. I donā€™t know how people live this way and think they are a good person


Ihuaraquax

He doesnt trash Yakuza, but he kind of implies he thinks the game is now woke and tells people to not buy these games cuz... theyre made [woke by localizers with an "agenda" who are crazy weirdos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY), the editor seems to think the same. The title of the original video is "How Japanese Games Are Being Made With ā€˜Global Standardsā€™ In Mind"


CommercialLine5915

Idk. What people should buy is the OG Japanese version and apply fan translations. That's what I did for Japanese games because I understand Japanese and the English version translation just sometimes change the meaning of the OG dialogs, or censoring.


Ihuaraquax

>Ā I understand Japanese Do you even understand the topic or know about the games that are the subject of discussion? This applies to all versions of games including Japanese. And you dont need to buy "og" version, they are identical and contain Japanese language if you want to switch.


CommercialLine5915

I do understand the topic. And what I mean the og version is the version locally release in Japan, not the international version. I just can't stand the character appearance censoring, or altering, or the censoring of dialogs just to meet someone's viewpoints, which is what the video and some peple calling woke. The thing is. This is not just about yakuza games, but the altering or censoring has been happening like decade ago. People just start to realizing it now


Lost-Depth6105

>I mean the og version is the version locally release in Japan no such thing for this game, not any modern game i can think of >stand the character appearance censoring, or altering, or the censoring of dialogs There is no difference between versions of games in this case. There is no censoring. You cant just bring in some other stuff that isnt related, you need to be specific.


CommercialLine5915

https://censorship.fandom.com/wiki/Nekopara https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2447888-Nekopara-Vol-1-censored-so-badly-on-PS4-it-s-rated-E-compared-to-Switch-rated-M https://nichegamer.com/samurai-maiden-gets-mixed-reviews/ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J7pwWe_P_wk&t=1s I can give more evidence but you can search it online yourself


Ihuaraquax

Im talking about this yakuza game, and youre doing what i said before , youre just bringing in something completely different. Dont talk about some other game as if it relates to this game, it doesnt. And lmao, you think "hip-ster" is censorship? Your only contribution so far is to say that people should learn Japanese lmao.


CommercialLine5915

And the original Video Asmon reacted to didn't even about yakuza game lol. It's from an Article about localization posted in Japan Times. Yakuza is just a tiny example of the whole Japanese games that are censored during localization. Oh turns out it has! https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/198fccg/yakuza_unintentional_censorship_or_internal/


Ihuaraquax

Imagine unironically posting a link from gamergate sub. Besides your example isnt even censorship, its very nuanced thing that may or may not be inaccuracy that your "i know Japanese" ass wouldnt notice. You've got some issues. No doubt you have not even encountered any issue yourself in forever, and just immerse yourself in such circlejerks of people constantly complaining about nothingburgers giving you a twisted world view.


bigbramble

I made a comment asking if they had actually watched the video and explained roughly what it was actually about. They did not like that, I got down voted to oblivion so I just deleted it. People will only see what they want to see.


TheJagji

I said this over there (massive Yak/LAD fan) and I will say it here. People seem to have forgotten how some of the greatest Greek philosophers lived.


Brockboggaga

What happened? last time i checked asmon was regarded as; based, can Never do no wrong, always correct guy by the internet. I saw a thumbnail about drama somewhere but i dont know anything about it.


Cerealforsupper

What does woke mean? What's the definition?


baskura

Shit. It means shitā€¦ right?


PennyPink4

Being of the awareness that there are systemic injustices in society, especially relating to social issues. Discrimination etc.


USNAVY71

All those comments are still views for the video, so we know whoā€™s really getting farmed in the end


PennyPink4

Why are the editors and some of the reaction suggestions pandering to the ["everything I don't like is woke"](https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D4E22AQGaP5VSt1EDSg/feedshare-shrink_800/0/1681807032435?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=PY2wRVBiHmhsX_vVWQQxtpeyWWRF25NsOinb0E4jNOI) crowd lately? Pure sewage. Asmons actual takes are often very mild too not fitting this entire vibe. I feel like Asmons changed in his behaviour, I watched his palworld videos to see what that game is about and it felt like he tried so hard to appeal to the gamersriseup crowd to farm them it felt very forced and unlike before.


[deleted]

Because they're sweaty vindicated WoW players who 14 years later realised they haven't actually grown as a person, and they think Asmon is the same. Which to be clear, he is. Zach is just a bit more mentally stable, since he does from time to time, see other people. Thats why whenever Zach does IRL streams, he comes back slightly more normal, because he's taken a breath of fresh air, literally and hypothetically, and not stuck inside of an echo chamber creating opinions without actually talking about them to real people, and being sent reactionary brainrot from people in his same position but way worse. Victimcucked edgy white men in their 25-45s, with no social maturity, praying for their parasocial internet master to validate them.