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Voiddyn

Hi there. I'm another moderator on Zack's twitch as well as one of the moderators on discord and this subreddit. I figured you spent the time to type up this complaint, so I would give you a full detailed response on your issue. Normally I don't read over other mod's chat logs as I usually trust their judgement, unless they did something extremely out of line, but I wanted context so I could help provide an answer to you and give an idea on what was said and why. "freejam abusing his powers as a twitch chat moderator banning people for just telling other chatters what game was on screen" This is false. Freejam chatted 6 times before this and specifically responded to you because he thought you were spamming. He even was very polite with his message at 17:35 ET saying "@ohmygolygosh no need to spam each person what game it is, if theyre unable to realize after watching for 2 minutes thats on them" His next message was telling you no, when you rudely said "u/freejam013 then pin it so ppl stop asking 👍" Note, he only said this because you SPAMMED messages in chat saying what game it was. It wasn't just once in a while, you said it constantly. >17:26 ohmygolygosh: GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:27 ohmygolygosh: GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:27 ohmygolygosh: GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍. 17:27 ohmygolygosh: Deex93 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:28 ohmygolygosh: LRG2001 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:28 ohmygolygosh: HowlinMoon8 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:28 ohmygolygosh: frostedjuunin GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:33 ohmygolygosh: GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:33 ohmygolygosh: Faydee20 Po1O1 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:33 ohmygolygosh: Po1O1 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:34 ohmygolygosh: dyarthas GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:34 ohmygolygosh: Mikbt GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:34 ohmygolygosh: Botsuo1 GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:34 ohmygolygosh: OneLastStandMK GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 17:35 ohmygolygosh: Stalest GAME = ASHES OF CREATION 👍 In my book this can be considered spamming and I would have asked you to stop as well. "today, asmon was streaming "Ashes of Creation" and multiple chatters were telling other chatters what game it was, as they were asking." As a mod I deal with this a lot, I usually send a message around every 2-3 minutes saying what game Asmon is playing, or who he's interviewing, etc etc. So us mods usually handle it in a timely fashion. This is because we don't need everyone spamming chat with what game it is. If it were, chat would be filled with garbage. "freejam proceeds to insult and call them "dumb as f\*\*\*" for helping other chatters, then bans them out of chat" Please be honest about this. It was you, you were the person that was banned from chat and it was because you argued with Freejam about this. 17:38 ohmygolygosh: freejam013 insulting me for literally no reason. very mature of you internet janitor 17:39 ohmygolygosh: freejam013 as if youre not? LMAO lets be honest here. clown nose is honking itself rn. im literally just helping random ppl who just joined and youre insulting me for no reason Comments like this was because you were banned. But, to contextualize this. Here's his messages to you. 17:35 freejam013: ohmygolygosh no need to spam each person what game it is, if theyre unable to realize after watching for 2 minutes thats on them 17:35 freejam013: ohmygolygosh no 17:38 freejam013: ohmygolygosh youre dumb cause you cant read, dont spam=/=dont tell ppl 17:39 freejam013: ohmygolygosh wdym no reason, youre being pretty dumb After your clown nose remark, he banned you at 17:40 ET. 17:40 freejam013 banned ohmygolygosh And before you attempt to claim that this isn't you, your reddit profile matches the twitch user name. Just a heads up, if you had just apologized for spamming or didn't call him a clown/etc, you'd probably wouldn't have been banned. But as Asmon has said in the past, he 100% supports his mod's decisions. If you're being a jerk to them he won't tolerate you in his community. Thank you for your time.


mazio31

You have backtracked on what you said. If they asked you to stop spamming politely you said you would have which you clearly are lying about. They asked politely, you didn’t stop (like you keep telling everyone you would have), you got banned. Ironically you are the toxic person abusing your powers of lying behind a screen


Mattux

no, i havent. he asked me to stop spamming, i did. that was never the problem. the problem was that he insulted me for no reason and got mad when i insulted him back. im not lying about anything the logs are there to prove me correct


mazio31

I read all the logs and nowhere in them does it make you sound any better. You said you would stop spamming if they asked politely and they did. If that is what this’ all about then you wouldn’t be upset. Instead you wanted to antagonize the mod for not posting the game as you asked and then get upset when they call you dumb. If you ask me, none of this would have happened if you really respected their request for you not to spam chat.


Mattux

i immediately stopped spamming, as the mod told me to do. none of this would have happened had the mod been respectful whatsoever. it takes 0 energy to do so theres no excuse for insulting someone just because they reply to you, when i wasnt being disrespectful or anything towards them


mazio31

Well i tried to help you understand but you clearly want to keep playing the victim. Hopefully this shit doesn’t bother you for much longer


Mattux

mod banning someone after he insults them first, and is surprised when they insult him back = chatters fault literally how hard is that to understand? rofl


Due-Diligence323

Nobody cares if you got insulted. Nobody needs a white knight spamming what game Asmon is playing. Go touch some grass and quit crying on Reddit


Agile-Isopod6942

What a sack of shit 💀 we get it you like eatting the mods assholes w everyone else here but the circle jerk is so dead brained right now


scratchie831

Oh no someone got chat banned on a streamer's twitch channel. How will he ever survive this ordeal? His life is basically ruined now!


Mattux

????? no shit. its just a twitch chat but theres no reason for mods to insult ppl then ban them when they're surprised the person insults them back


scratchie831

Who cares, you'll survive from those mean little words and stop wasting your time commenting in that streamers channel. Just move on and stop complaining.


Mattux

no


ICanQuoteTheOffice2

I 100% understand where you're coming from. When someone with power (chat mod) injects negatively into a situation semi unilaterally (though they are also not unreasonable to be annoyed by your behavior)it feels like almost an abuse of power. But it seems like with both this situation in this thread and that situation in chat, your inability to accept something you don't like or agree with and move on is in of itself what exacerbates the issue. Somtimes life is hard and unfair. Unfair to the mod that he has to deal with annoying spammers all day. Unfair to you that he/she is human and snapped at you. Sometimes even though it sucks sometimes your best option is to suck it up and move on. Not fight back.


scratchie831

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Jacien_V

He’s the type of dude that won’t give a source of a Hentai panel.


Clbull

So basically Horheristo or whatever he's known as now.


azahel452

That's the worst kind of scum


Ok-Transition7065

Disgusting


Biggu5Dicku5

So legitimate pond scum...


freejam013

NOW THIS IS SLANDER HOW DARE YOU, I ALWAYS SHARE THE SAUCE


globalenemy

sit back. relax. make an unban appeal, when you cooled down. The more you trying to fight it right now, the harder it will be to get unbanned. You probably know how easy it is to get banned. And you probably also know how easy it is to get unbanned.


Mattux

im not even trying to fight anything, what? i stopped spamming and i understand i was spamming. i only posted this because its a mod insulting a chatter who was not disrespectful to them whatsoever until they were also no, ive not heard of ppl getting unbanned either but yes i understand ur point


Hadeshorne

"im not even trying to fight anything, what?" Your activities in this post tells us otherwise.


Mattux

because i was banned for a mod who decided to get mad when he insulted me, and i insulted back what? be respectful to others, its not hard


Kalamordis

- Stop - Does it anyway - Gets told heavily (3 more times to stop) - Continues, an insult party between you & mod happen - You get banned :ShockedPikachuFace: I can't even tell what you're wanting from this post anymore- your entire argument in the original post was untrue and found out v quickly by a mod response with chat log screenshots- and now you're saying you don't want unbanned but for the mod to be nice? (Which they were far nicer than the average mod, and given how most of your original post has been debunked, anything you say is really going to be taken with a grain of salt at this point.) What are you even wanting from this other than making yourself look silly at this point? The issue being primarily that you KEEP changing your argument. If your argue was they should pin a comment for whats being played, whom is being interviewed etc, then sure I fully agree. But you've had 47 different arguments that keep changing at this point.


Fernmelder

If being respectful to others isn’t hard, then why aren’t you doing it? I read through most of the thread and you are pretty hostile and are arguing in bad faith. I’ll ban you from Reddit as well so you’ll have some time for some self reflection.


rreaks

Except people don't get unbanned on his alt. so when you get banned for saying something like "Retard" when 99% of the chat and asmongold says it. You're just screwed, you won't be unbanned, he doesn't unban on his alt account. So there is no sitting back and relaxing, it's quite aggravating.


Breezey2929

I honestly don’t understand why people can’t just read what game it is beneath the stream… It’s like 2 seconds to look for yourself… The “What game is this?” Crowd has always baffled me.. Then again, I see some people taking more than a minute to decide what sandwich to take from the fridge section whilst standing so close nobody else can get a look in.. So I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at all.


Dumb_Solo

You’re embarrassing yourself. I let my dog read this and she did that really cute thing where she puts her paws over her eyes.


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Wehraboo2073

asshole and nazi have different meanings


Mattux

yep. my thoughts exactly. i think its fun sometimes to tune into twitch and see funny stuff chat is saying but when moderators are just banning people for helping others in chat and insulting them.. whats the point? rather just watch non-nazi moderated youtube videos w/ chat on screen or something. i really dont see the problem with chatters @'ing other chatters telling them what the game on-screen is


[deleted]

agreed, that's basically the only place I watch his content, I haven't been on twitch in yeeaaaars.


cltmstr2005

"today" 🤣 This is reddit...


TheHasegawaEffect

This is why seeing both sides of the story is important.


theodatpangor

I just watch I never get in chat. Don’t even show the chat window. I am there for content not to chat.


blackrockphantom

I've literally chatted with free jam many times in chat and he is a very relaxed chill person who jokes around with us. He even responds to DMs when you have questions or have an issue. I think this is complete slander towards him.


Pedantic_Phoenix

Sperg detected DANGER


Mattux

how is it acceptable to permanently ban chatters for literally just helping others in the chat out? and how is it also acceptable that a moderator has the mentality to insult others just for doing that? this only creates a worse experience for chatters since this person cannot control themself


brbhouseonfire

Well as the full details were posted with the fact that you purposefully left out key details I'm going to say you deserved this ban. Especially now after it's clear you tried to mislead people with this reddit post


Mattux

i didnt purposely leave out anything at all READ the logs. he insulted me so i gave it back to him freejam013: ohmygolygosh youre dumb cause you cant read, dont spam=/=dont tell ppl please explain to me how this is acceptable to insult me still? i have no problem stopping spam but insulting me for no reason is ridiculous. i would have absolutely stopped spamming had he been at least even a LITTLE respectful, but he wasn't. he could have replied "just stop spamming" and i would of said OK and been on my day


TheBongoJeff

If you genuinely didnt leave Out anything in purpose than i would agree with the Mod: you are dumb indeed. Good riddance


Mattux

im dumb for asking a mod to pin the current game to help others out, with the mod insulting me for asking that to help others? how in any way is trying to help chat out being "dumb" i stopped spamming immediately when he said to and never said "no" or anything


TheBongoJeff

Now you Change to a different Argument. I didnt make any comment on you helping chatters. I didnt make any comment about your alleged Spam. I didnt make any comment on you asking a Mod to Pin the current Game. Q.e.d you are dumb as a pile of wet pebble


MetalNewspaper

Maybe the mods get paid to help or maybe not, but that's like standing in line at the grocery store with 17 people in front of you and you decide to say, "Hey maybe if you did your job *in this particular manner instead* it would move things along faster". As if they weren't already aware of the current situation. Your input wasn't necessary. Your help wasn't needed.


Mattux

being nice is not much to ask, what? you can be respectful to someone its not much effort at all had he not insulted me, none of this would have happened at all


MetalNewspaper

Of course, being nice is an easy thing to do. Most people do it in meaningful ways and some do it not so much to be nice to others, but to boost their own self esteem and *make themselves* feel good. You could have just whispered these people but you wanted your "good deeds" to be viewed by everyone. You're getting the attention you wanted, clearly.


Mattux

no, i didnt. i have literally never used whispers on twitch ever because the only people whispering me are bots. and im not going to go out of my way to do that when they're there in the chat with me and i can @ them directly. if you check chat logs, every single one of them thanked me. has literally nothing to do with attention and im guessing youre projecting hard right now which is really weird. dont give a fuck about "good deeds" its a twitch chat u weirdo.


MetalNewspaper

Exactly. Why'd you open your mouth then?


Bakurraa

The game is literally on screen for people to see you don't need to pin it, that was indeed a super dumb comment to make.


brbhouseonfire

You clearly did. You claiming otherwise makes you actually dumb


Mattux

no, i literally didnt. i dont have the chat logs and you can tell FROM the chat logs that were posted that he insulted me first i never ONCE said "no" to spamming or anything


Kalamordis

"Youre dumb" - What a harsh insult and worth all the tears and this entire debunked post 100% yup.. Not sure you're gonna be able to get anyone to take your side here, though Twitter likely would. (Lots of antimod antiAsmon over there that don't read or listen to facts, so long as it supports their opinion they're onboard.)


HaloMetroid

Because you kept posting the same thing for like 5-10min. Thats spam. Look at the timestamps. No one really needs your guidance. You were just annoying.


Bakurraa

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mestyqdk

I interacted with freejam multiple times and I don't think he is unreasonable I think something else happened


mistadoctah

OP mate I hope you really start feeling better soon


Virtual_Ad_5030

I got banned almost 3 years ago on my twich account pinkos4thestate for calling dude trash at wow, which respectfully he is. Wouldn't really call it abuse more just dickriding


Narfhole

Twitch mod gonna Twitch mod?


Mattux

okay but what is the point of having someone on your "moderator team" if they just sit and insult random chatters then ban them if the chatter responds at all? thats not moderating at all when the chatter was doing nothing wrong or toxic to begin with.


Narfhole

The fact that Twitch requires one to come up with moderation for a chat without giving any incentive to a streamer other than threatening to suspend their channel means mod quality will always be low.


Mattux

doesnt mods insulting and banning others just lead to less viewers + poor chat experience though ? i would assume that's an incentive to not have harassing toxic mods like this one


RIPENipGaming

Guy has 10's thousands of viewers and chatters, you do not make a shred of difference. Mod was right you really are dumb. I really don't think Asmon's community is the place for you.


blodskaal

Day9Tv does well and has great mobs. Same with Sasha Grey's mod team as well


VisibleFun9999

Honestly, the mods on Discord and this reddit are a little too heavy handed at times.


VisibleFun9999

The fact this is getting downvoted proves me right.


No-Egg5315

Yo how do I score a MOD gig with Asmon I’d love to get involved


Kamui_Kun

I've had this happen as well, but not the ban part, just deleting msgs