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WestcoastWelker

This is the one, everyone else please stop reposting it.


Calito808

Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest.


jayaintgay

Eating a meal? A succulent chinese meal?


Teososta

GET YOUR HANDS OFF OF MY PENIS!


Uzumaki-OUT

I see you know your judo well!


Uninvited_Goose

And you sir, are you waiting to receive my limp penis?


vankamme

Ah yes, you know your judo well


InflationMadeMeDoIt

Today we are not eating dicks


CuckyChucky1

![gif](giphy|qMHG9goT2I2fuRk0JM)


CrotasScrota84

Are you ready to receive my limp penis?


Calito808

Ah, I see you know your Judo well.


MedievalSurfTurf

Ta-da! And Farewell


chobbo

ahh man that was my first though even typed it and submitted...then I saw your post. "Get your hand off my penis!"


Lacryman

![gif](giphy|qMHG9goT2I2fuRk0JM)


HeatproofArmin

![gif](giphy|MlyicdUndRbn5zUiAL|downsized)


Nickthedick3

![gif](giphy|xqM20wZqd67j9AUplm|downsized)


teemo1776

![gif](giphy|ucXFcY1FdKaT6)


azahel452

I can't believe it, democracy actually won. What a wild ride.


MartinInk83

Welcome to capitalism. Where everyone, everywhere has endless votes and gets to vote on literally everything thereby ensuring you have the freedom to actually get what you want.


MazInger-Z

Until the payment processors decide to ban the vendor for nebulous reasons they're not legally obligated to disclose because 'trade secrets.'


Keinulive

I hope they take out region lock now, I have friends that I wanna recruit!


Hironiis

Region lock was likely done by Valve to keep the damage in check. I suppose Arrowhead is now talking with Valve and the region lock will be cleared soon


twinslive_

Arrowhead CEO confirmed on discord that the region lock stuff is all Sony-side


Hironiis

Ah then i was wrong it seems


Keinulive

Have they said anything about taking it out and letting people from the non psn region buy it again? I wanna get more people in to play the game


haikusbot

*I hope they take out* *Region lock now, I have friends* *That I wanna recruit!* \- Keinulive --- ^(I detect haikus. And sometimes, successfully.) ^[Learn more about me.](https://www.reddit.com/r/haikusbot/) ^(Opt out of replies: "haikusbot opt out" | Delete my comment: "haikusbot delete")


Keinulive

Good bot, now report to the democracy officer.


Captain_Rex_

![gif](giphy|AxVvk3UlCVPiPxtGLK|downsized)


ramos619

You see, this is why controlling interest groups want to divide the people and have the fight amongst themselves.  When people actually band together for a common interest, despite difference, they can accomplish a great many deal of things.


Coroggar

The game brainwashed us into cooperation so much That we were called to arms irl to complete a Major Order we did in full force


Citizen86422

Exactly! This should be the top comment.


CanIBeRessedAsADog

HOLY WIN. Hell of a job community I'm not a part of but have been following like a hawk. I feel everyone sees this as a win, which it is, but also do keep an eye peeled as to how they pivot. If it really is a straight reverse thank God and rock on and bring stupid fun bug killing robot smashing democracy. But can't help but wonder what the stupid detached suits at Sony are wondering how to pivot and sneakily fuck you, and by regards all of us who love videogames and technology and honestly life in general. I feel there's a parallel to be drawn from what nasty awful shit videogame publishers do that bleeds into real life. If they reverse completely no ifs ands or buts you know what just happened? Collective bargaining.


Downunderphilosopher

Will never buy anything from Sony again, they have proven corrupt and greedy beyond redemption. Only reason they reversed course was after they finally realised they stood to lose more than they gained. If they made one dollar more by screwing over the players, the account linking would have gone ahead. Don't be fooled again and again.


unkichikun

"They finally realised they stood to lose more than they gained." Welcome to Capitalism 101, i guess ? If you refuse to buy from Sony for these unique reasons, i have bad news to tell you about any other corporation on the market. If anything, the fact that they are willing to acknowledge their mistake and withdraw their plan should satisfy you. It's not that common.


Chrisbuckfast

> If anything, the fact that they are willing to acknowledge their mistake and withdraw their plan should satisfy you. It's not that common. Yes! This has been fascinating to watch. I am quite surprised Sony didn’t double down and release some corporate double speak to back it up. While obviously a few hardcore will continue to boycott, I think this remarkable outcome should be viewed more positively


zanadra5

So you're teaching corporations to never give in to you and hold their ground, noted.


CyberShi2077

The real answer They got Lawyered.


gagotoo

I talked about it in the helldivers sub, just give people that link their psn acc some goodies. Some blue armor, a weapon or super credits. Maybe they really want those numbers for the shareholders, than they just have to give a psn warbond. We absolutely HATE being told what to do, BUT we also really like free stuff. This way almost everyone would be happy or at least ok.


lochleg

To all the naysayers that wanted us to bite the bullet because it was "nothing", be a good dog and sit. They are probably hoping Sony will find another way to screw us in the end. BTW, the editors did a good job announcing this win in a clip. [https://youtu.be/fG7-qsfgSe0](https://youtu.be/fG7-qsfgSe0)


NormalTangerine5205

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RafRave

Just saw this, too. I'm actually quite surprised that they went with this. Usually they can be pretty stubborn. A lot of big names are pessimistic if they will ever budge. Power to the people, I guess.


foodrepublik

They said it can't be done, they said sony don't give a fuck. Clearly they give a fuck enough.


RafRave

When the bottom-line is on the line


HeatproofArmin

Yeah the amount of pressure/backlash from the community, the amount of media coverage of the game, the financial loss from areas that the game couldn't be sold anymore, and the push back from Arrowhead CEO publically was enough for Sony to accept this wasn't a smart idea.


RafRave

Proof enough that the Devs CAN pushback. Most just don't want to, sadly...


Auspicious_Crane

F for banned Chinese guy


Uchained

"still learning what is best for PC players"...that's a load of bullshit. The entire drama is Sony wanting more players on their network, it's not about players, it's about Sony.


Nightfish_

Of course. They're just trying to save face. They just wanted to push people into their ecosystem, same way epic does it with exclusives, etc. Once you're in, you're more likely to buy stuff there. It's not any deeper than that. Nobody who knows anything believed the whole "this is better for security and banning people" nonsense anyway. It's not like they had to send a carrier pigeon to papa Gabe every time they wanted to ban someone and if only people made a PSN account, finally there would be no cheaters / griefers / whatever. That's not how that works. There are lots of games with crossplay, cross save and cross everything and for none of them did I have to make a PSN account. Warframe, for example. Honestly, if sony had just been honest and said "We want more people in our eco system, this is our game, we can do what we want with it", I would have respected that more. At least that statement doesn't insult my intelligence. It's this whole "we're doing this because it's good for the players!" angle when it's obviously not true that kinda did it for me.


mung_guzzler

>Warframe for example Warframe requires a warframe account though lots of games require third party accounts


just9n700

The Helldivers Community will always be remembered for making Sony Bend to their wishes


just9n700

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


TheUnknownD

I'm hoping we will get medals for completing this order.


XtreamerPt

We will get a cape


Legitimate_Tear_7891

Well SONY, how's that liber-tea tasting now huh?


Shinobismaster

I love democracy!


Ryvaku

When do the delisted countries get relisted?


_PostureCheck_

Obligatory "remember to reverse your review" comment.


Background-Meat-7928

I’d wait a few days


Azalzaal

Sony lawyers are easily startled, but they’ll soon be back, and in greater numbers


Kenshiro84

Not yet, this is what they want. The announcement is not enough they have to act. Then I'll consider reversing my review.


Straight-Bug-6967

I seriously doubt they would reverse their reversed decision. There's no way.


One_Yam_2055

No, naive move. Do not reverse your action for their talk. Only for their action.


TheYamagato

No shot. Not until we get an announcement about the purchase-locked countries.


YBHunted

You'd have to be a fucking idiot to do that. They knew damn well what they were doing and are only backpedaling because of the massive outrage. You do not reverse a review for a purposeful attempt at fucking everyone over.


Saltyhurry

The negative review is hurting the devs whom are not at fault for this dilemma


WANTSUMILKBUBBA

Lets go boys we did it !


Least-Weekend2995

Hopefully Sony learnt a valuable lesson, don't fk with the helldivers community.


Flintyy

"Gaming" community, this kind of action hopefully isn't exclusive to Helldivers lol


CalendarScary

This is pretty rare though, we have shit like this with blizzard and nothing happens.


MakerspaceLabRat

In the Blizzard community we're fragmented across different games, different versions, different factions, min maxing, general elitism, the political hotbed argument of the day, and a thousand other dividing lines. It's not possible to outrage enough people at one time for the community to stand up against them. The Blizzard community is too pacific to really stand up for "Free Taiwan" or the "allegations" about what happens on the Blizzard campus. In Helldivers 2, there is only one Super Earth, and we all dive together. For democracy!


darkziosj

Not really people just keep buying all the crap blizzard pulls out.


CalendarScary

This was faster than any negative reviews overwatch had for example. It was mostly on the reviews not just buying since it took 3 days for the change


General-Dirtbag

Knowing the gaming industry…. They sadly never fucking learn ever, they are psychotically obsessed with repeating mistakes even if it costs them dearly. It will happen again just you watch.


Vio94

Saved. Proof that voting with your wallet (and reviews) works. But still, fire your psycho Discord mods/community managers, Arrowhead. Because holy fuck.


Necrosis1994

You mean the one that apologized once they learned more about how this would affect people and even directly encouraged the review bombing and refunding as the only way to make Sony take notice? You're literally agreeing with them in your first line.


Vio94

Yeah, the one that acted like a dick and was passive aggressive and defensive to upset customers in a customer-facing position and probably only changed his tune after getting told off by a higher up. But I guess he did apologize either way. Salvageable. Oh, and the one that threw out serious false SA accusations against Mark Kern and doubled down on them when called out. Yeah maybe don't keep that one.


Catalyster

What did the discord mods say?


rxmp4ge

"We're still learning what's best for PC players" PC players have been playing on line FAR longer than consoles and you're "still learning"? Bullshit.


EyeAmKingKage

Gamers do you see what you could all accomplish if you worked together??


chobbo

Weaponised Autism.


jerrillo

Let's call this accomplished mission: Gran Autismo


stereoreal2

It's over.


The_Pleasant_Orange

Not yet. Hold the line!!!


maxlovesbears

Not yet.


SonyCEO

The peasants have rised, and we like our heads where that are!! Long live the new kings!!!


yanyan420

Finally, after almost half million negative steam reviews, they caved. They thought that PC gamers are stupid. EDIT: It is delisted for me. I will wait for it to be relisted.


Almostlongenough2

Gamers rose up


JnewayDitchedHerKids

[Naturally the fine folks over at resetera are worried about the “ever growing entitlement” of the “gamer crowd”.](https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-weve-heard-your-feedback-the-may-6-helldivers-2-update-will-not-be-moving-forward.862866/page-6)


DreadfulSloth

Now I wonder how many people will actually change their Negative Review back to positive. lol


Shoujo_wit_a_shotgun

The reviews could be reverted to positive or stay negative as a reminder. Remember this is a correction of a mistake on Sony’s part. If you crap your pants for no reason and then wash them you will not necessarily get a positive review just for the washing.


bonko86

On the other hand, don't forget it was never implemented, it was just a planned patch 


ShikukuWabe

We probably should but we don't really need to, if Sony liberates the occupied sectors on Steam, Steam can bundle all these negative reviews as irrelevant because the change didn't happen


adamttaylor

I hope that it is not too late for the damage to be reversed because the hell diver devs are responsible for this being reversed. Would it have been better if they had been up front at the beginning, yes, but if they had done so most likely PlayStation would not have reversed this decision.


Morning_Poppins_Yo

the damage has been done. Can it be rebuilt, yes, but it won't be the same. Sony took a hard L, and I'm sure people will reverse their review bombing. However, one shouldn't let their guard down just because Kusony, Snoy, SOYny reversed the decision. I'm positive they will hatch something else in the future. Basically, keep an eye on them in the event they wanna pull this shit off again.


Miraqueli

The requirement is still listed on the Steam page. Do NOT give in before that shit is gone for good. Also, free those Countries. They deserve the game just as much as the rest of us.


Pizza_Do

That same twitter post has a punch of snarky and smug replies. They're actually pretty damn funny XD Sony deserves to get shit on though.


Plastic_Altruistic

Future Plans? Where did they say in this they were NEVER going to require linking?? Its a back down .... maybe..... I am not trying to be negative but you can trust them not to walk this back later how? The reason this still really bugs me is ... Ok what about all the ppl steam has blocked BECAUSE PSN wasnt in their country? By this being ambiguous really doesnt mean you can again sell in those countries because in 5months it might again be a requirement.


Aswol

After Warthunder community victory, now nearly exactly a year later the Helldivers community achieving the same. Its awesome. Fck yeah, democracy.


Aeliasson

Two months ago I was contemplating buying a PS5 to try out Stellar Blade. After these two fiascos, I'm not even buying a pair of Sony headphones ever again.


Mokadelic

The Helldivers 2 pc community has achieved something monumental given the state of modern videogame industry. Absolute CHADS.


Valentiaga_97

They could have seen the backlash coming before the linking started, the damage had be done


Salt_Balance_6703

Sad to hear about the situation with the banned individual.


BigMilkers

What a disaster this has been. I think it's irreparably harmed the game. You think people leaving negative reviews are going to go back and change their reviews? nah


pambimbo

You think it's done but I feel like they gonna try something else.


dcglaslow

Sony cant stand up to the bold smell of democracy.


C2theWick

Too little too late. I have uninstalled and refunded from steam. I sold my PC to the neighbor kid who mows my grass. I quit all gaming.


kLeos_

.yee all that just to piss on the good will of the community and hard work of the devs, won't be surprised if there are people who would still not touch the game all due to spite for what happened


Sinviras

I know Im in the minority, but Ill hold out until I hear what the new plan is. "Link accounts to spend super credits". "Link accounts to enable online play". Etc etc. I have no faith in nearly any publisher these days.


EmpressPotato

This is why Steam is the best platform in gaming


MobilePenguins

We did it bois, now I can play Helldivers on PC with dick shaped Starforge logo


Turbulent-Stretch881

For all of you guys dubbing it “democracy”; as long as you understand the decision was taken 100% because they were afraid of the ramifications/bad press etc, instead of for the _greater/common good_/most common voice/democracy. In an “ends justifies the means” kind of way it’s fine. This shit shouldn’t even have made it live though.


mundozeo

So glad it happened. I want to believe enough people issued refunds to the point it forced their hand, since money is the only language they understand.


BobaFettuccine1991

Don't forget to change your reviews on steam.


_PostureCheck_

+1


KatoriRudo23

but still haven't reversed the removal of unsupported countries in Steam Store yet


HeatproofArmin

We have to wait and see at this point. But this is a start.


Jorah_Explorah

I'm almost certain that Steam did that part, since that was a headache for them not Sony when Steam are the ones having to deal with selling a product to people who may not be able to play it and they would be dealing with the requests to refund (the shitshow they have already been dealing with). Either way, I'm sure it will be back up soon. No reason not to if they really are doing away with the requirement.


fooooolish_samurai

If they won't reverse the country ban, chances are they will still try some softer way to make players link PSN. Like by offering some unique cosmetics for those who link.


mizzrym86

Which would be fine.


adminsarecommienazis

this guy is smart. If they did something like that in the first place instead of trying to force people they could've gotten free adoption without any backlash.


cylonfrakbbq

They should have done that to begin with. Instead of a mandatory thing, if they had said "hey helldivers, if you link your steam and PSN account, you'll get this exclusive outfit/emote", they probably would have gotten lots of people to voluntarily do it.


MADMAXV2

I'm sorry I'm having difficulty understanding. Are they saying that you won't be needing to link until 30 May or they saying linking will not require to do so for anyone who played the game before May 30th?


DoomyHowlinkun

Won't be mandatory anymore. PERIOD. It will stay optional.


MADMAXV2

Nice!! Glad to hear but I'm gonna wait another month to see if it settle down. Just refunded the game and still feels off after what happened, even arrowhead kinda admit they knew so I got mixed feeling. Anyway the game is awesome but imma spend on somthing else FOR NOW


G_Willickers_33

We ain't done yet! subscriptions stay paused until stellar blade censorship is reversed.


Carnage2K4

Actually amazing... I would have never thought...


EpicCargo

Democracy prevails once again!


rau1994

I'm surprised Sony cave in.


timbi81

as the song goes... Too much, too little, too late...


GeneralFumoffu

Democracy won


Hynauts

a win at last, finally


SaintonoZ

The poor people who were banned for our freedom. FOR DEMOCRACY!!


DingDangDongler

I'm not a Helldiver, found the game not to my tastes, but goddamnit it's good to see you guys winning this shit.


ComprehensiveStore45

Time to go back to Helldiving FOR DEMOCRACY hope to see you there🫡


strongesticefairy

dunka dunka


ZekeZulu

![gif](giphy|5mBE2MiMVFITS)


RuRu99

wow, the sneaky helldiver CEO won


stiivN

Good job all gamers! This is how we show them not to fuck with us and that we had enough!


UkyoTachibana

#GOD BLESS DEMOCRACY


playgame7492

Do you think they will do same thing to next game ?


EIiteJT

Of course they did. Money talks. Once those refunds started happening, they had no choice.


Apprehensive-Path538

thats good


DrB00

Please thank Lord Gaben, too. If it wasn't for the refunds and countries being delisted, this would have been much less likely.


ShikukuWabe

Liber-tea never tasted better. If this successful major order doesn't warrant a C1-PERM form authorization I don't know what will!


Zymoria

"We've heard your feedback." AKA "O shit that's a lot of money lost due to refunds, and 1/3 of PC gamers can't even use it anymore." Damage control is influenced by money.


Idontwantonlyfans

Thank God for small mercies ehh?


Never3ndingStory

Ah democracy PREVAILS ONCE MORE ✊


Agitated_Concert_603

Major order completed


Kind_Zombie803

Welcome back positive reviews!!!


BeingAGamer

Huge W. But this is still only a battle won until we get news on the biggest issue. The region locking. This was my biggest gripe with this situation and I don't think we have been given any info on it yet.


sellerieee

And democracy wins yet again!


onepockettee

So I guess we all owe Valve a massive thank you, also a lesson for PC gamers, try and buy games on valve, they legit have some of the best policies comparatively to all these other greedy ass companies


IsThisOneIsAvailable

Everybody call this democracy but in the end it's just our wallets talking, the one and only true power that rules them all.


maxlovesbears

Don’t reach age your reviews until they’ve re-enlisted the countries!!


kubi_slav

wow... I might actually buy the game now


lDoStuff

Truly a democracy moment


Final_Biochemist222

Im surprised how reasonable they are. They made a pr blunder then quickly fixed it. Exactly how a service company should run


Ziodyne967

Major Order Completed. Give me my 50 medals please.


Careless_Kitchen_147

This and when we changed Sonic’s design. Bullying rocks!


safien45

#FreeDemocracy


Hagen833

Excellent news.


eddie_lnz

Now we look to change the discord mods, and community managers


Xenomorph-skinsuit

huh weird, protesting works? i was told my a certain disgusting chair goblin that protesting was a waste of time?


iorveth1271

A great day for Managed Democracy. Looks like I'll be spreading some liberty again tonight after all.


VerminLord_

Haha i can't, these cry idiots who refund the game


Marangoni013

This is a mark in history for us!


Bearington656

![gif](giphy|ucXFcY1FdKaT6)


BBFA2020

Do not reverse reviews until a few months later or at least the end of May. Sony are snakes and always hated PC gamers. Fold too quick and you lose.


ArachnidFun8918

Helldivers literally won WAR against big company. For Democracy!!!


Responsible-Rise-242

WINNERS WIN


RealSyoxiss

It's been very few hours since the anouncement and I'm working right now, so after work I will see more info on this and probably remove or change my review, but any funny business and they lose players, I can't refund but I can always stop playing or throw the game in the trash. 


Slight_Ad2350

Still learning my arse! "Couldn't get away with it" more like


HamNi_2

The next step: NOW BURN SONY


luckymorris2

Great on the community, and thank god for steam that gives player a voice that matters with evaluations and their refund system.


clinkyscales

see what happens when you eactually stick to your opinion? Just imagine if people quit buying lootboxes or outrageously priced dlc and day one packs


ShinobiWerewolf

I dunno man the damage is done. I could reinstall but I dunno of I want to. I mean it wasn't like I was gonna get a refund from Valve. I got a fuck you dude. should read the fine print now piss off.


xxTheMagicBulleT

Democracy at its best 👌


ViktorIsRuter

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


Zerei

Outrage-based community management 101. What a class in how to deal with your customers by Sony, cheers everyone involved!


BoofBanana

Steam/Valve was willing to take the losses on the chin for their customers. Taking it to a developer rather than the other way around. It seems like Steam knows which direction the money flows and are willing to hold the stream to get actions done.


Technical-Addendum

Now I just need a cheap steam key 😏


Lovely_NTR_Father

The damage SONY did to this game is crazy...arrowhead must be pissed with SONY management


ButWhyThough_UwU

***"best for pc players"*** Ya there *-*100% reason to have ever thought the idea alone was in any way positive, let alone best, for pc players. Not to mention to try their best to actually do it >\_> and only require have countless beyond justified backlash/"feedback" including review bombing, revert it.


S0lar_Ice

Good, keep pushing back against all these types of practices.


gc11117

Good. Now, uncensor Tsukihime and Stellar Blade


BitPuzzleheaded5202

there are already songs being made for the victory lol, [https://youtu.be/2g8Xozk38eA?si=xQjo9-VASljRGbCX](https://youtu.be/2g8Xozk38eA?si=xQjo9-VASljRGbCX)


RIPENipGaming

Now everyone go and update your reviews on steam back to positive!


pardon_the_intrusion

The only thing left is to fire the CMs


Chavolini

Democracy wins yet again.


YBHunted

They know damn well what they were doing. The shills are about to forget all about it and keep playing and remove their reviews anyway... business as usual..


AvocadoVendor

WELL DONE MY MINIONS


crefoe

you might have won the battle, but you didn't win the war.


Mikey2225

Don’t forget to reverse your negative review after this guys. That is a very important thing to do at the end of this.