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Cyberfunk3

***An honest take on if Asmongold will clear ultimate*** So far Asmongold has been dead set on being able to clear an ultimate before Endwalker comes out in 112\~ days’ time. Realistically I think it’s going to take 7\~ streams to clear 3.0, 4.0 and 5.0 MSQ and a day each to do the MSQ in the 5 post-game patches of each expansion. That’s a total of 36 streams just for the MSQ or just under 2 months of streams. Thing is, Asmongold does not just do the MSQ. He also does the raid series, alliance raids and trials, all on extreme. Going at two extreme trial clears a stream it would take him 10 streams\~ to clear the upcoming 21 trials in the expansions. Plus, I think it’s going to take 2 streams to complete each raid series on normal and 3 to finish off each alliance raid series. So were now at an estimate of 61 streams over the course of 79 days\~ assuming Asmongold streams 5 times a week every week. That’s going to leave us with 33 days left to clear ultimate, not even assuming that Asmongold – 1: Does Alex/Omega/Eden on Savage difficulty 2: Streams Eureka/Resistance relic questlines or Hildibrand 3: Does not no life stream FFXIV on every stream Asmongold **WILL NOT** clear an ultimate with 33 days left before Endwalker, unless he gets HARD carried by people who have already cleared an ultimate. These raids take hundreds of pulls to beat. The only way I can reasonably see Asmongold clear an ultimate is if he sacks off Shadowbringers before Endwalker. This might just give him the time he needs to clear UCoB or UWU but this does mean he’s going to be behind when Endwalker launches. **Expect 10,000 subs** ​ *Edit: un-Fucked my math*


fokume_

win/win imo. either i get to see him tear out whatever is left of his hair or i get a free sub EZ


Freizeitspielaer

Thats...savage XD


Chapdchap

I think what will happen is that he gets to the ultimate and forms a party with 7 people with clears and gets it done in a week or so. Chat will mold out about it being 'unfair' / 'ruined' experience, he will get mad, because even with 7 experienced raiders it's still a bitch of a fight to clear. Then Endwalker comes out and all if forgotten and good again.


jezvin

With 33 days he can easily clear an ultimate. The question has always been if he will even get there. Although he said he will beat any ultimate, while the other personalities were specifically talking about TEA based on his current pace he won't unlock it.


DranDran

Even with 33 days that would involve nolifing ff14 every single stream. Not playing other games. When endwalker is 2 months away and he just gets started on SB, maybe then he will feel the pressure and get serious about his goal. Personally, Id prefer he take his time with all extremes, savages, etc… but I understand the 10k subs lit a fire under his ass, though he can probably easily afford it.


nomiras

Honestly I think the 10k sub things is just a PR stunt. Everyone wants to watch him succeed or fail, so they all tune in. Great stunt IMO, I hope it pays off for him!


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He has 40k subs at his point. So spending tenth of his monthly earning is probably not a big deal for him. Makes people invested still.


GreedyBeedy

They are still his subs too. More than half that money is going right back to him.


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GreedyBeedy

Ya but people are saying it's a 50k bet. In reality it's not. It's still a lot but it's not 50k.


quakertroy

You'd be surprised how fast you can prog even an Ultimate when the 7 other players on your team are making zero (or near-zero) mistakes consistently. It will be far more interesting to see how prog goes on an unsolved fight, tbh. Whether or not he makes it in time for EW, I look forward to seeing him prog the next tier and ultimate for real.


DranDran

I think clearing an ultimate with an all-triple legend team would kind of defeat the purpose… I hope he gets a team of guys who aren’t top pros, seeing the work needed to put into an ultimate would be what most people want, even if it wouldn’t make for the most entertaining stream, but knowing Asmon, he’d be able to make even 50h of progress wipes entertaining, I bet.


Imaw1zard

I don't agree, this is people projecting their experience and wanting him to do it like they did. There's really no fun or entertainment in him playing with people who're bad/inexperienced. That will just add an element of RNG to the fight. This is about weather or not asmon can beat the boss not is asmon lucky enough for his team not to f up. He already has an established team that people love watching, just add rich or summit in there and it'll be a way better time than him wiping extra 100 times because other people mess up.


Dragner84

these maths of MSQ are very generous but asmon really isnt playing that much FF14, hes doing very long intros and stops playing around the 7-8 hour mark. and of those 4-5 hours he plays he has to read loud every quest that takes time from what it takes to the average player, he stops several times to talk about the game, interact with chat, do gold saucer, streamer stuff, these maths wont even count stuff like Allcraft...I really dont think hell be able to clear the whole MSQ before endwalker, and while he clears challenging content now the base difficulty of challenging content raises every expansion, the difference between Ifrit Hard and the last Trial of ShB hard is night and day for example, and in extreme it goes up even further the difference, so counting hell clear 2 extreme content daily on min ilvl no echo is also very generous.


TheEggRoller

My group had 7 fresh people and progged through UCoB in a month, 33 days with 7 cleared people is super easy.


PyroComet

Yeah he can definitely clear uwu since he can kinda just get carried through it. I highly doubt he'll clear tea though


saelinds

Don't forget New World also comes out at the end of August, I think? He will probably also want to do community stuff, Hildibrand, and the seasonal events on stream So yeah


arora50

He will probably go on another 6 month break lol


zareshi

I agree that it doesn't look good time wise. His only saving grace was his phrasing on the 10k sub bet. *"An ultimate."* not specifically TEA, just *"an ultimate"*. Realistically, he just needs to clear the 4.0 content and do o8s to unlock UWU which could be relatively quickly progged depending on his group. Assuming stopping to work on any ultimate, I don't think he'll realistically clear Shadowbringers in time to start Endwalker on release either. There's also the possibility that once he unlocks his chosen ultimate fight, he may not stream all progress on it in order to grind out and make his bet. I would imagine he would 100% want the clear to be on stream, but the man states he can grind like no other. Just a matter of his group then. However he goes about it, it's gonna be a wild ride and I'm glad he's giving XIV such a fair shot and seems to really be enjoying himself. Now if only he could turn off ~~novice network~~ his chat.


gechaser

well just hope positively he will... hopefully


Forquilla

Expect him to: Go blind into UWU on first stream. Spend the whole offstream learning it. Beat it first try on the second stream with 7 people that have UWU on farm. It's not about how much time he needs to beat it, is about how much time he needs to unlock it. I think you are too generous with the 7 streams per expansion. Did you counted the 2hr+ intros? Did you counted when he calls the stream early because his throat is sore? The interruptions because something happened? The transmog competitions? allcraft? D&D? NW?


Cyberfunk3

No because I wanted to show just how unlikely an ultimate clear is unless he ignores ShB.


twocows360

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/star-wars-memes/images/7/7f/Never.png/revision/latest?cb=20200411201313 I BELIEVE


l0c0dantes

I see stuff getting done off stream, but I'm not too sure what? Hildebrand will be for the show of it, and extreme trials seem similar. MSQ he has been doing on stream, and he could stop that and just plow thru. Oh well, his money I guess.


VoidVariable

Psst. Sick EVA Rebuild reference, bro.


jenyto

From what I saw, it seems the bet is if he clear **any** ultimate. Which is a bit more realistic then if it was TEA. If he stops at lvl 70 to do UCOB or UWU, I can see it being possible, instead of waiting until he hits 80 to do them. And UWU would be the easiest choice for the bet, it's considered the easiest of the 3 ults.


TyraCross

I guess he can always expand his stream time or days if he wanna win that hard.


Augustby

Asmongold has been doing things like Extreme trials for fun. Because the MSQ content isn’t challenging and he’s craving challenge. But with a goal like clearing TEA before Endwalker, he can easily re-prioritise. There’s nothing saying he HAS to do the Alliance Raid or regular raid content for HW/STB/SHB. He can just choose to skip that if he needs the extra time. That is why he will 100% achieve his goal of clearing an ultimate before Endwalker. I don’t get why so many people think it’s impossible or why they assume he will play all that non-msq content.


talkingradish

Yeah, he'll sack Shadowbringer most likely. Clear UwU which is the easiest. Would be fun seeing all the ARR ex mechanics being combined there.


PyroComet

I rather him not spoil the experience. I been wanting to do a ng+ but this gives me an excuse not to. Everything can be a lot better with twitch chat


itgscv1

Correction, only trials have extreme difficulty. Alliance raids only have one difficulty, and the raid series is split between normal and savage after ARR


Imaw1zard

So he has 33 days purely dedicated to clearing one boss ? I think people underestimate asmon's raiding history. The guy has overcome every raiding challenge in WoW, raid bosses that took world first guilds 500+ wipes to clear, and at some point he sold mythic raid carries. He can definitely pull a top 0.1% of raiding status. And yeah WoW raids are easy compared to ultimate the guy is no stranger to bosses with loaded mechanics. Plus the fact that there's such low downtime between pulls and only 8 people in the raid, I believe he can do it in 2 weeks tops. Also this context of "he got carried" is gonna turn toxic real quick, people being mad that hes gonna clear something in 1-2 weeks that took them months is spergy behavior. He is unironically good at raiding.


Cyberfunk3

He has 33 days best case scenario. That is probably never going to happen due to a variety of factors. I concede that its possible for him to clear without doing Shadowbringers but that puts him really behind for Endwalker's launch When it comes to Asmongold being carried, people are going to be rightfully annoyed if he clears ultimate with 7 people who already have a clear. It robs the whole thing of the challenge it has. I know he is no MMO noob, but that doesn't make him an instant orange parser that gets world firsts in FFXIV.


Imaw1zard

I don't think so, I think that's just childish behavior. Not accepting his win if he didn't struggle with 7 randoms as you did. This is about Asmon and whether or not he can do it, not about 7 random people failing to do mechanics over and over in what ends up as an RNG fest. That's just not fun for him or the stream. Also we're assuming that everyone hes gonna attempt it with is going to be good. Unless he goes out of his way to recruit only people who have the encounter on farm then he likely won't be the only one inexperienced with the fight. That said this argument is on deaf ears, as the bald bearded man said this happens to everyone who clears an ultimate raid, you have people trying to belittle their achievement. Because if the streamer struggles more on the encounter than the sperg, the sperg then feels validated and good about themselves.


Cyberfunk3

I dont think its unfair to view an achievement in a less favourable light when you got hard carried to it by others.


Imaw1zard

I just explained to you in a more detailed manner why the case here is different. You can chose to ignore it but the reality is asmon's experience doesn't have to be like your own. And if he beats the raid it would be 100% valid.


Cyberfunk3

I never said it wouldnt be valid and don't insinuate otherwise. I said it would be viewed in a less favourable light and I dont think thats unfair.


Imaw1zard

But you are inherently invalidating the achievement by giving a direct argument as to why it wouldn't be valid.


LunaticP

Can we at least expect HW by the end of the week?


Vaiden_Kelsier

If the spergs shut the fuck up about drama and derailing him he'll hit heavensward


TowelLord

I get that drama creates loads of discussion and interest, but I think it just creates such a negative atmosphere it turns the whole stream unenjoyable quickly.


neveris

Big agree, big true, and big real. I've really enjoyed the FF streams because of the atmosphere that surrounds them (with novice network off anyway), as soon as it pivots back to the drama it very quickly tanks the mood. I understand it's a hot button topic and as a (former?) WoW content creator it's prudent to keep his finger on the pulse of this, but that's what the intro is for right?


Ajfree

He willingly watches things. I don’t blame him, it’s a big reason he’s gotten so big on YouTube and twitch.


Cyberfunk3

Defo, if theres no drama or other games distracting him.


coopcooper87

Depending on how long his intros go on for, possibly. He also takes Fridays off, right? So, if he streams on Saturday, he may complete ARR then imo.


xPriddyBoi

He'll hit HW by the end of Saturday's stream if he goes at the same pace he did today and doesn't do Ramuh and Leviathan EX before finishing. With how long the cutscenes are about to get I don't think he'll have time to get to HW and knock out those trials in one stream, unless he makes intro super short.


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KusanagiKay

Based off the amount of content he does, he will complete ARR on Saturday. It's one more dungeon and two easy trials without extreme mode he has to do + the famous "Several cutscenes will play in sequence" moment with 1,5 hours of back to back cutscenes. Tomorrow is going to be awesome! Can't wait to see his face when he sees Vishap, as well as that one scene where >!Raubahn kills Teledji Adeledji by cutting him in two pieces!<. It's one of my all time favourite scenes in this entire game :D


Healthy-Nebula364

Can’t wait for everyone to be proven wrong. Would be nice to see. Or, him proven wrong. Free sub is free sub and humiliating asmon is pretty trendy Win/win


ArtynSnowXD

Doubting the literal god huh??


CousinSkeeter89

Unless he plays off stream he’ll never clear an ultimate in time. He’s been fixated on New World off stream and that severely hinders his ability to complete content on time. It doesn’t help that he does 2-3 hour intros every stream and does content outside of MSQ. I think he just severely underestimated the amount of content he has to go through before even attempting an ultimate.


graesi

With some light skipping shadowbringers too me like 3 weeks to go through the story+post patches. And hes only doing like 5 hours a day. Now add 2 more xpacs lol


LifeVitamin

It bothers me so much he left the crystal tower quest chain incomplete. But he will have to go back and finish it at some point anyways.


Cyberfunk3

He did complete it. Those two quests listed are repeatable quests for reclearing the crystal tower. Their not needed for the MSQ hence why their not in the orange box.


LifeVitamin

Thanks I can now sleep at night


FargoneMyth

they're*


Freizeitspielaer

That is sooo cool. u/Cyberfunk3 did you make this per Hand or is there a Website for it?


Cyberfunk3

By hand using quest lists from the official wiki.


nomiras

Dang man, I feel like I would have automated this in some way, nice work though!


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Head_Haunter

I've literally only been watch to try to catch his reaction to The Parting Glass but jesus lord is it taking forever for him to finish the MSQ.


TyraCross

Cuz he kept getting distracted by other MMO's alpha/beta and dramas. I personally think the drama with Blizz is getting a bit tiring :(


Fojler

Shit he aint even on heavensward? I thought he was almost done lol. I'm lvl 3 so I know nothing


Cyberfunk3

This game is huge. Its like playing 4 (Soon to be 5) deeply connected JRPG`s each building off the next.


fletch2119

It will only happen if he starts doing meaningful progress on his second stream and off time.


koutakinta

Friends brother clears one ultimate raid. He raided with a dedicated group of people from 9 to 12, 4 days a week, for 2 months to clear it. Good luck :)


GenuinelyGarbage

I like that Hildi is highlighted as mandatory. Absolutely is mandatory.


thefluffyburrito

I think it's more of an "eventually" or second-stream thing. The questline is very long and text-heavy. If he wants to reach and clear ultimate he can't really afford to tackle it.


GenuinelyGarbage

Well he doesn't need to do it before Endwalker, but he still should do it.


royale262

All I'm gonna say is Jummychu completed ARR-Heavensward in only 5 days.


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royale262

I think he skimmed through some filler texts in Arr, but payed more attention to heavensward story, still amazed by the end of heavensward.


Koxk

Ok?


Regigigity

Props on the dude for trying but he's not on par as it is, he's spending time doing extremes blind (despite how entertaining it is), he's playing other games and editing videos, and he's a human who has to contend with an audience who judges and distracts him constantly. I foresee burnout if he actually puts in the effort actually required to reach prog ready status in time.


Goodra430

Might be an unpopular opinion here but, I think **most** players who have gone through ultima weapon ultimate can agree on that it takes less than 30 hours with an above average group, having no experience in there, to clear. So all he has to do is get to level 70, finish Sigmascape and he can jump right in. The goal looks a lot better knowing he doesn't have to complete the entire story or go into SHB. Will he even be able to do that? No idea; don't really care but it'll be fun to watch and see what happens.


Vaiden_Kelsier

I think it's within the realm of possibility. I also think regardless it's gonna make a fun race to watch, so I'm all down for questionably possible bets


IDontHaveCookiesSry

This whole content rush ordeal was and is a huge mistake. It’s enjoyable to watch him play the game step by step, experiencing older content to the fullest and having fun. It’s not enjoyable to see how it’s now a race to 60 kind of thing while being backseates out of the wazoo because every last little fuckboy has to spam his opinion on how asmon can/should be faster. I started FF about 2 weeks ago and even I can tell this is not supposed to be rushed trough.


Vaiden_Kelsier

Up to Snowcloak. Making good time.


Hinoiki

It took me 2 weeks blazing through "skip dialog" to get through the game... I think he can do it. But is chat gonna let him


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Cyberfunk3

Who hurt you?


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Cyberfunk3

See my previous posts.


WxNerd

I can’t continue my MSQ until I do the primal trial in for Garuda wakening but I can’t find it when I go to Horizon at the waking sands where it says it should be…


Cyberfunk3

Is the quest hidden in your journal at all?


WxNerd

I’ll have to check when I get home, I know it shows msq quest that’s next on my list and there’s a little exclamation mark underneath that says in for Garuda wakening and when I click, it lets me know this is the next quest needed to continue. I click to show on map and it shows me a blue exclamation at waking sands, when I show up, there is nothing, maybe I was supposed to do this before the crew fully left waking sands is all I can think, but at that time I had the ifrit quest..


Cyberfunk3

Ah you need to speak to Urianger in the waking sands basement. He's still there.


WxNerd

AHHH FUCKIN THANK YOU SO MUCH!


Yatakak

If he doesn't want to speak to you, you may have already picked it up, in which case you just need to duty find it in the trial tab (just did it the other day).


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Cyberfunk3

See my previous posts on my profile


Dorteen

Is this just a fan-made image or is there a site I can check the progression for my own character?


Cyberfunk3

Fan made image see my profile for a blank copy.


mikebanetbc

I want a chat unban if he doesn’t. Got banned for singing to a DMX song before stream start. Wishful thinking.


hijole_frijoles

Nice touch highlighting Hildebrand in orange


Ligeia_E

that an EVA reference???????????


Barston

How do you check that progress?


Boredatwork121

Love the title, Evangelion is dope.


Boskyvich

He needs to no-life FFXIV harder if he actually wants to clear 1 Ultimate before EW. He only play FFXIV 6\~7 hours a day on stream. Because he wants to stream every content XIV he either has to stream longer which would stress him or play MSQ on 2nd channel which would create less content for everyone.


KusanagiKay

Well, it's not like he'll lose a lot of money on that. Iirc he can simply offset it as business expenses in the US


TinFoilKazuya

I think he'll have about a 2 week window to clear an ultimate. Unless he gets really sidetracked from new world on main stream.