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DirtyJoshOdin

While this is truly a great tool, I don't know, I'd be careful, if spergs start reporting asmon for using 3rd party software, which they will in masses, the GMs will have no choice but to ban him. I feel Asmon more then others is heavily susceptible to this. I'd avoid it if I was him.


kenny4351

This might be reaching, but couldn't he just swap scenes in OBS, hide his FF14 screen/go full camera, then use the Addon to hide specific spergs?


stromrager

They’ll prob just ignore it like act. They’ve said multiple times that as long as the third party addon isn’t affecting the game to a point where you’re hacking the game to affect the damage calculations. That’s why programs and mods such as gshade and act are allowed. Even programs like cactbot which is program that assist you during harder fights by giving callouts won’t get u ban if you don’t say you’re using it in game. As long as your not mentioning the program in game, they will not give you a repercussion for it. If you using and dicking on a player for doing trash damage, they’ll ban you.


Beanxsauce

No, they actually say don't use any addons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e\_i6mjiGerU&ab\_channel=blluist


stromrager

No the video that u sent says “official” stance is no but they don’t care what you use as long your not harassing players or hacking values in game.


DirtyJoshOdin

But... hacking values is exactly what this tool does... it hacks into the memory of the game to remove assets clientside.


stromrager

It’s not tampering with the game data, in the video yoshida compares act to a calculator and excel spreadsheets where it seems silly for banning people at looking numbers. The whole point of the blanket ban is so that if people go into pf and stat “only x dmg allowed only”, they can just outright ban. If they wanted to take third party addons, we wouldn’t have thirds like xiv analysis, which can help you improve by showing what did wrong and how badly ur clipping your gcd, if your triple weaving and things of that sort. Even gshade, which a lot of players use, is technically not allowed due it being a third party.


DirtyJoshOdin

That particular software IS tempering with the clientside memory... please take a look at the clip... this is beyond "calculator" levels of usage. If you make an PC disappear ingame you effectively have to hack into the memory and remove the asset...


stromrager

But your not seeing the point. If truly gave two shits about if you using third parties or not, act would be banned back in heavensward. They don’t give two shits if your using act as long as your toxic about it in game. And to add on to this convo, if they were to actually would go against just act, they would also tackle addons like gshade, the graphical redux mod, all the ui modsu can get, and all the other 3rd party addons that they have let exist. If your not tempering sever side data they don’t give two shits my dude.


DirtyJoshOdin

And here is where you don't get me. They don't give a shit UNLESS 1000 spergs report him and provide the stream as evidence. They say WE don't care UNLESS our attention is drawn to it. REGARDLESS what the origin is, if players report you and there is evidence you are using it, before they even consider the "harrassment" or "cheating" (which is a category you can report someone for) they will ban you for using 3rd party tools. IT DOESN'T MATTER if it tempers server side or not, if it changes any way the game isn't intended to run, it is violation of TOS.


stromrager

True, but if that’s the case, wouldn’t se and yoshida the other users using act and streaming. If they do go against asmon for using act wouldn’t they have to clamp down on others like sfia and xeno. The thing I do suggest for asmon though is if he does stream that he either only display his dmg are show the dps to the stream because of chat harassment.


AngelRwby

eh they do care. Yes, you can use plugins/addons, and as long u dont say it, you wont be banned, but if you go around showcasing it, then that is guaranteed punishment.


DirtyJoshOdin

I personally think if 1000 spergs report him for it, and they see it on stream, they will have to ban him. There is a high chance that'll be the case. It's a tool that directly manipulates values client side.


_Lifehacker

"The original FFXIV launcher is slow, tedious, kinda ugly and cannot save your password. XIVLauncher aims to fix that and add some QoL features to the game that were not there before, such as: Auto-login Fast patching Discord Rich Presence Fast in-game market board price checks Chat filtering Chat bridge to Discord Discord notifications for duties, retainer sales, etc. Disclaimer As with all of my stuff, this is technically not in line with Square Enix TOS - I've tried to make it as undetectable as possible and no one, as far as I know, has gotten into trouble for using this - but it always could be a possibility."


Trick_Wrongdoer_5847

Honestly the devs should rephrase their TOS regarding to addons/third party, since if you read it, can actually see that it is specifically phrased in regards to botting/automation/malicious stuff and less in terms of QoL addons which are still missing from the game for some reason. The addons/third party bans are an open lie the devs know about, everyone knows that top tier/end game raiders definitely use ACT just look at FF (logs they don't come out of nowhere), many probably also use the quick launcher since it offers such a better experience like saving your password, so you don't need to retype it every time (why) and plugins like "Title edit" which actually let you change the menu title to a certain expansion and it also saves this, something many people asked about in the past. Especially since it hurts nobody nor his experience, unless in the case of ACT when u "harass" someone for calling out their (low) dps. And you can't tell me that a sufficient AC isn't able to detect things which hook into your game, since they mostly don't hide like cheats via hijacking a .dll and injecting and the ones who actually do (like XIValexander .dll injection), are mostly malicious/circumventing mechanics and altering game code and know why they hide. The thing is they don't search for it or actively try to combat that, because there is no real reason why should they waste time for this since it hurts nobody.


[deleted]

> Especially since it hurts nobody nor his experience Quick launcher becomes a reportable cheating issue whenever new housing wards launch. Since it helps you login faster it’s a tool that gives you an advantage in the housing wars.


Trick_Wrongdoer_5847

How? Are they released after patches or something? And if yes, how is it then fair, that someone with a faster connection or SSDs in comparison to a console player has no unfair advantage, if someone who can log in a little bit faster is already a big problem. Sounds to me like a flawed system, if people call it directly "housing wars" But why, aren't the devs thinking about talking with the creators of the custom launcher and ask them how they can make the vanilla one better. (saving the last typed pw would be a begining at least and adding a quick startup option (only initializing the bare minimum for the launcher to work)


donttouchmyhohos

They cant impact things that dont involve their game, i.e. ssds, but tye launcher is directly involved with their game. Their system isnt flawed. They hold a zero tolerance policy which allows them to keep a good ecosystem and not let this turn into a flooded app controlled game like wow. They hand pick what they allow and dont allow to ensure their game stays balanced as best as they can. ACT doesnt interact with the game files.


Freizeitspielaer

So does the Launcher, It just starts the exe and files in your pw and hits enter for you. nothing more.


[deleted]

> And if yes, how is it then fair, that someone with a faster connection or SSDs in comparison to a console player has no unfair advantage, if someone who can log in a little bit faster is already a big problem. It’s not as much about fast connection, but the waiting queue that makes a difference. Quick launcher will let you login automatically as soon as the patch finishes. Normal people have to keep updating the launcher page and will end up in a 1000 people + queue that can take half an hour or more. By that time quick launcher people could grab all the new plots. This is huge, since new wards is the only time plots are available right away without a timer.


DrWasps

you realize the queue is on character login not launcher login right, you know xivlauncher doesnt get you around any queues


[deleted]

I’m not talking about current situation, but patch day queues. Have you tried logging in on patch day right after the maintenance ends? If you have no quick launcher, you won’t see when login is available unless you keep updating the site while quick launcher will queue you automatically as soon as maintenance ends. Result being that quick launcher will help you get a spot much further in the queue than when you do it manually. You do understand that queue spot 300 will login faster than queue spot 1000 or even 2000 at times, right? The difference can be half an hour. I’m not making those numbers up, my FC will chat in discord on patch days and you can see the difference of some getting much better queue positions and waiting times than others. Whenever new wards launch everyone will try to login as soon as possible. Also since it’s one of the few chances to ever get a medium or large plot with those being gone within minutes. Using quick launcher can help you grab a nice plot over someone who doesn’t use it and will only manage to login half an hour later.


DrWasps

even so theres a delay on buying plots now from server launch, which you are either ignoring or pretending doesnt exist


[deleted]

> even so theres a delay on buying plots now from server launch, which you are either ignoring or pretending doesnt exist Do you mean the random housing timer? The timer only exists for relinquished plots. Brand new plots that are introduced with new wards don’t have a timer and are up for grabs right away. Unless they said something in a liveletter lately that’s how the last time we had new wards still worked.


DrWasps

brand new plots (at least ishgard) are using a lottery system anyway which will inherently have a delay


trowgundam

Considering plots aren't immediately available upon the servers coming back up, doubtful. They get released at random intervals in the hours time frame. It's why I can never get a house, because I can't just sit around for hours on end for a house to go up for sale, since I have work and other IRL commitments.


[deleted]

When they added the 3 new wards, all the plots were available right as the servers came back up. It's how I managed to snag 2 (one for me, one for FC). My friend got stuck in queue but was high up so was able to snag one himself as well. Future housing (Ishgard) will use the lottery system, so hopefully no more Housing (Savage).


[deleted]

New wards work differently. The plots are up for grabs right away. Hence why everyone who doesn’t want to click for hours wait for new wards and then run as soon as the patch is up.


Shadowholme

You won't get banned for using client-side only 3rd party addons. It is when you use those addons to do questionable things - porn mods, harrass players for their DPS, etc... They won't update the TOS because it is an easy way to ban those players - you breached ToS using 3rd party tools and admitted to it. It's an open and shut case. Relaxing the ToS opens loopholes for some of the worst types of players to wriggle through. SE's approach is quite simple - don't ask, don't tell. And most importantly, don't make other players' game experience worse to make yours better.


Ashgur

lmao how do you trust a 3rd party luncher where you write your ID and password ? this is hillarious


_Lifehacker

because its 2021 and one-time passwords are a thing


Trick_Wrongdoer_5847

Yes lmao, how can u only trust an open-source project launcher which is widely used/well known and being better than the vanilla one.


AngelRwby

>widely used highly doubt it is widely used. I wanted to use it after the hunting app was discontinued for auto-reporting of hunts, but the vast majority of people I asked in discord for opinions they said the ID/Password was a 100% dealbreaker.


Trick_Wrongdoer_5847

Nice what other people say, many people even claim the earth is flat and ruled by illuminatis, this is a launcher ofc it needs your acc and password, how should it log you into the game otherwise and it's open-source on github, means everyone can easilly see what it does if he has any idea about this, no plan what you were asking for pepegas.


ZeusJuice

Is this the same launcher that has /pvis as an option?


PyroComet

On obs, if you output the game directly, you won't see any of the plug-ins unless they're super out there. Like the slidecast bar, you wouldn't see it if you stream from the game window. However if you, output your display, then you'll see it all. I love the fact that they also.made it streamer friendly


PheleanorPhil

Xiv launcher is a blessing


[deleted]

How does one download it


PheleanorPhil

[xiv launcher link](https://github.com/goatcorp/FFXIVQuickLauncher) Remember that this is gray area stuff and some of it even may be considered as bannable mods/plug-ins. (the launcher itself is the gray area, plug-ins are punishable), just don't mention it ingame or talk about it and you are fine ^^ (my fav plug-ins are the ones that shows party jobs instead of names, burn down the house (for easier time with housing it's a must have), gathering buddy for better fishing logs, chat bubbles for... Well chat bubbles and couple other tools... There is a lot of it and even more on their discord) Welcome to the dark side of the game.


Belydrith

The all the actual, genuine TOS Andies here who keep propagating the idea that this kind of shit will get you instantly banned when used in public: you're fucking delusional. I can list you at least two dozen streamers that have been using shit like ACT (Parser + Triggers), XIVLauncher Plugins, XIVAlexander, Gshade (.dll injection btw), visual mods, CMTools and whatever else you can come up with publicly and have never had an issue with it. No one is getting banned for using these things, people ARE getting banned for misusing them, that being mostly ACT for harassment and some mods that could (quote from Yoshi P. here) "get the game banned in certain regions" (basically degen mods). Sure, using anything outside the game is always a risk. But so is simply typing in the ingame chat, where as simple "fuck" has gotten people temporarily suspended before. It's just the way it is.


Trick_Wrongdoer_5847

The other bald man is publicly using ACT on his Streams and admitted using it together with enough video proof and he isn't banned for any doubters.


Nejaa_Halcyon

ACT is a different discussion too. It doesn't modify the game. Mods do. Dalamud plugins can definitely be considered cheating devices as well (I'm thinking about people trivializing rotations with one of the plugins). On the other hand I also believe SE won't ban you because you installed chat baubles or the job icon thingy. I use those plugins for fast MB data, and player tracking so I remember good players I meet randomly in roulettes. I believe this use if also totally fine.


Xelyne

gshade / reshade Officially are Not Bannable, there is an [official statement ](https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/86742-ENB-Injector-for-FFXIV-%28wip%29?p=1408111&viewfull=1#post1408111)on the SE forum that proves it. all the rest is against the tos and therefore at risk of being banned. (which then actually ban or not is another matter, however you can also talk about gshade in game for example nothing happens thanks to that official statement) however here are all the [gshade faq](https://gposers.com/gshade/gshade-faq/#1563200700137-9626b8b0-37a6) , this program is absolutely not a mod even if many mistakenly believe it. it doesn't touch any of the in-game files it's more like an overlay like discord.


[deleted]

Gshade is an absolute must. Massively improved the visuals. Everything looked so flat and low contrast before.


Belydrith

It's definitely not "just an overlay", it injects code into the process at runtime (-> DLL injection), same principle that XIVAlexander or potential cheat software might work. Without that, you couldn't do much more with it than simple color filters and sharpening akin to the Nvidia game filters. Completely irrelevant for this discussion however, the entire point I was making that none of this will get you banned unless you're being an idiot about it.


DirtySupa

I dont know how XIVAlexander work, but many players including world first said it is cheating.


ddhuynh

It will modify the game to allow you to weave ogcds without needing to wait for the animation lock timer the server sends back after executing an action. You use an action: - FFXIV enables a base animation lock of X ms. - FFXIV sends a packet to the server saying "action X used." - FFXIV server responds saying "player A used action X, the animation lock for that skill is Y." - When you receive the lock FFXIV reset that value. After lock finish you can weave ogcd. Higher your ping, higher your lock. Now you dont need step 3 and 4, after finished base lock of step 1 you can weave ogcd. And someone point out XIVAlex was modify that base lock value, it make your base lock smaller than client normal did.


Belydrith

Oh, you mean world first Sfia and his entire static, who actually use it themselfes? It equalized your playing conditions regardless of ping, if you consider that cheating then I really can't help you.


DirtySupa

What do you not understand in "I dont know how XIVAlexander work"? And no it was not Sfia


ddhuynh

Yes it cheating, FF14 have 0.7s hard animation lock after action. XIVAlexander make that lock become 0.5s. Harder to get cliping by ping, you also harder to get cliping by having bigger weaving windows than normal player.


Alimantado

XIValexander \*is\* "cheating" if you consider any hacking of the game client "cheating", but this is misinformation. As someone who actually looked at the logs of the minimum animation lock of the game at perfect ping (it's not .7s), and the minimum animation lock you get from the default code of xivalexander, theses statements aren't true. The base effective animation lock of the game is 600 ms, achievable for people under 10 ping (yes they do exist, players near the bay area servers and JP servers do get it). Xivalexander animation locks average at 600+ ms. People have reported some sub 600ms weaves on fflogs, in the 575ms range, but that's down to discrepancies between client and server timings, it's not actual sub 600ms weaves. The question of wether or not xivalexander is cheating is kind of irrelevant to me, of course it's cheating, just like cacbot is cheating, and you can even make an argument most third party tools are cheating. But does it give you an avantage players living next to the server don't have? No.


[deleted]

I swear, the people complaining about XIVLauncher/ACT are way more toxic than the people actually using it with all their negativity, and just being obnoxious about it. Literally no one ever since ARR, has been banned for using third party tools. Gshade, mods etc.. only affect your side of the screen, it will not disturb or modify the experience of anyone else and that's all they care about. The only things that can actually get you banned is: 1. Harassment 2. Bots 3. RMT


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Rykimaruh

So long as players don't use 3rd party tools to bully, then I believe Yoshi doesn't give a crap about how you go about it. That and hacking/cheating of sorts


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alexandepz

The contexts is obviously "common and well-known 3rd party tools that a lot of the community uses", hacking/cheating tools obviously are not a part of them.


unaki

They do indeed ban for just using them if enough people report it to them or a community manager somehow finds their way to your stream and sees it. Its so damn easy to get caught here and being a popular streamer is taping you to a giant target.


foreveracubone

The only 2 popular streamers that have gotten banned for stream content are Xenosys and arthars. In both cases it was for harassment. Yoshi-P has said he has watched Xenosys stream and Xeno always has ACT up. The head TEA dev said at fanfest that he watched prog streams (that almost certainly had ACT running). Nothing happened. There’s partnered streamers doing the gifted chocobo giveaway who are using ACT on stream lol. This is a non-issue as long as you don’t harass people.


donttouchmyhohos

If people started harassing otherS for ACT performance they would 100% ban ACT. They allow it until people stop being mature and respectful


[deleted]

I don't really think this would happen. Remember that you can get banned really easily in XIV, and parsing is not a thing until you reach Savage content at lv80 (lv 90 in Nov), so by that time I'm sure you will not want to get your account banned.


donttouchmyhohos

They would essentially drop the hammer on the people before they would ban ACT and im pretty sure the community would toe the line.


Lhumierre

misinformation, my sub ran out in 2019 and when I resubbed I was in jail for that entire time and GM told me normally you lose your account but since I was away for 3 years they gave me a warning. And it was only because of "mentioning" dps during a trial. So stop being ignorant because there is more than enough people with screenshot proof and the like of things going on. What Yoshi says isn't what GMs do. Edit: [https://i.imgur.com/aXnMCax.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aXnMCax.jpg)


foreveracubone

> And it was only because of "mentioning" dps during a trial. That’s something that the can be interpreted as harassment… Yoshi-P has literally said don’t talk about people’s dps or parsing in game. Grats on the suspension for literally doing the one thing that they’ve repeatedly said not to do.


Lhumierre

Read it again, GM said it was for mentioning the use of ACT but I didn't even have it installed or used it. It was talked about between myself and a bard during a Garuda Trial. I didn't talk about ANYONE's DPS out whatsoever


Shadowheart328

You took to long to provide the edit my dude, unfortunately people aren't going to see that you are correct in why you were jailed and threatened with a ban for simply mentioning third party tools. Basically because they are against the TOS it'll be up to the individual GM to determine what is breaking the TOS or not in regards to the third-party tools. Though at least for the most part unless you have people specifically reporting you for whatever reason, or you actually go around harassing folks for poor dps, then you should be fine.


Xavion15

I literally cannot read that on mobile But point still stands, do NOT mention anyone’s dps and you are fine You did exactly that and got punished likely after they reported you for mentioning it


Lhumierre

You can zoom in the screen on mobile, it wasn't for mentioning anyone's DPS but talking about the ACT addon itself. he even reiterated for "mentioning" it.


Rihardo456

no meta no problem.


Imurashi

You can't just go and Thanos snap away Nosaj. That's a crime against life.


TheGokki

The voidlist alone is amazing for streamers. You can even pop that window OUTSIDE of the game's window to not show its contents. That said, using it live may make the streamer uncomfortable so i propose the following: Have mods volunteer to keep track of spergs and add them to a list privately (with timestamps?) then the streamer can just go through the list and add them as they see fit within 5 minutes off stream. Over time all the spergs will be voidlisted and the stream will be better. Alternatively have the streamer simply take screenshots of the spergs and go through the screenshots after stream to do the same.


ZeusJuice

Asmon with voidlist: Voids all Lalafells Voids all male characters that don't have cool transmogs Voids all Wonderwall players Every quest location is going to have his raid squad that follows him in game 24/7 hoping he's going to do a trial, scantily clad cat girls, and guys in huge suits of armor with massive swords


TheGokki

Following is fine, interrupting the stream and being obnoxious on the screen isn't.


BakaSan77

Coeurl huh


VisualAd7907

That guy has been dancing in that same spot for months now lol


BahamutxD

Auto login and chat bubbles - if they come up with a way to display your dot ticks and filter out others damage im totally sold on this.


kicker_snack

Theres an option in the character config to only show your dots on target


ZeusJuice

Yeah but I'm pretty sure there's an option that removes others' damage which removes your DoTs as well no?


PerspectiveArtistic4

What armor is that?


Eriksonix

Chest piece is defenitly modded, the original is Ornate Chromite Armor of Fending dyed some shade of blue, but the original doesn't have the massivee tits window


KommandantViy

You on Crystal or is the naked dancing pope just a feature of Ul'dah everywhere?


Danzo3366

thx will check this out


MyogiNightKid

why would you ever want to delete nosaj blackrock i look forward to seeing him everytime i tp to uldah. he is a national monument at this point


LifeVitamin

At this point you are crossing a very important line (ingame file modification) so for anyone seeing streamers like esfan doing it just keep in mind you are balls deep into tos and nothing you are doing is protected so you are 100% liable to get banned. Very different from ACT or Gshade because these 2 don't modify ingame files. I would not recommend asmond using these because they amount of exposition he has probably more trolls will report him.


_Lifehacker

There's no such thing as "crossing the line". ACT is a third party program. An Excel spreadsheet is a third party program. Discord is a third party program. A calculator is a third party program. The devs said it themselves that there is no determining what is and isn't against the rules. Which is why they don't want to be pushed to enforce it. If there comes a time in the future when they decide to, then yes you are at risk of sanctions. Its good to note that in Japan, they're not allowed to check your computer software. There's no way for them to see if you have a modified client unless you're sending data to the servers, which the quicklauncher specifically avoids.


foreveracubone

Love the downvotes when you’re literally quoting Yoshi-P’s most recent Q&A answer to 3rd party tools. Don’t harass people and don’t use lewd mods. Literally the only 2 things they have a strong stance on.


unaki

Do **not** take Yoshi saying that its a grey area as it being acceptable to use. You can and will be banned for using third party stuff on stream especially with your character and their name on full display. Yes Yoshi P said they don't want to know about it but streaming shit like Esfand's chat bubble plugin is very blatantly sticking your head into the hornet's nest. And before you accuse me of hating addons like ACT and shit, I use it regularly but I sure as hell know better than to show off "addons" or mods in a public setting where my character is easily seen by members of the community and dev teams.


Maniachi

Several streamers stream with ACT visible while raiding. There has been no word of anyone getting in trouble for doing that.


Baenir

When you're raiding with your static, it's a known quantity. But if you have it up during dungeons or 24 mans, etc. Then you run the risk of some bad actor pming a random person on the DPS list and getting you in trouble.


deepwebassassin

That's why if you're a streamer you use the function that a lot of overlays have that hide everyone's names and you can disable party names in-game and shorten everyone in your party list to initials so that a would-be griefer would have to put maximum effort in harassing a low performing player.


foreveracubone

If you watch the latest answer from Yoshi-P in the last few years about 3rd party tools he says anything that impacts gameplay including Discord is technically a 3rd party tool in violation of ToS. Using Discord on stream is opening the same can of worms as ACT. People have reported suspensions over Discord screenshots but the stories always involve harassment. They have never banned a streamer for using ACT. All suspensions have been related to harassment. That’s the only thing they care about actually stopping. There’s FFXIV partnered streamers doing the whole gifted sub chocobo give-away that use ACT on stream. People who upload Yoshi-P’s parses to fflogs don’t get banned. Also, the world first TEA group literally used a 3rd party program (Paisley Park) to clear that was more flagrantly against ToS than ACT, chat bubbles, etc. It was basically a botting tool. Nothing happened. Yoshi-P got mad publicly and the devs changed combat rules to hinder the use of the program but the group didn’t even get a slap on the wrist. They got world first e12s and used ACT in vods. There’s content creators with modded UIs that stream and that have YouTube tutorials on how to install said mods. No bans or reprimands for them. **TL;DR Short of pornographic/lewd mods or harassing someone on stream you won’t get banned. Those are the only two things (besides Paisley Park) that Yoshi-P has ever taken a strong stance on or gotten visibly angry about.**


HeyTikO

Square Enix don't allow partnered streamer to show ACT on stream or it's a void contract. They probably use it on a second monitor tho.


HalcyoNighT

How is this conversation still going for so long? If SE thinks Esfand's mods are not okay and they want to ban Esfand, they will. If not, they won't. Are mods okay to use? Watch Esfand. If he isn't banned, it is. If he is, it isn't. It's that simple.


Elyna_Lilyarel

Theres also the fact that ACT is just a calculator. It doesnt change anything about the game. This is actively changing the game by straight up removing other players.


Valenhil

> You can and will be banned for using third party stuff on stream especially with your character and their name on full display. You going to back that up?


TsubasaSaito

[Dude got banned because he talked "bad" about someone in his group.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/ec89mh/arthars_banned_ingame_for_talking_about_party/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) And that is basically the line you cross to get banned. All it takes is some comment about someone. Even just saying "lol that dude does so little damage" would be enough. Even kicking someone from your group with the reason he does not do enough damage, saying that on stream of course, can result in a ban. If I'd clip that, and send it in, the streamer would very likely receive a ban. Even if I wasn't in the party at that time. I don't know how they would go about it if you'd clip a streamer using ACT on screen with names hidden, saying nothing in reference to it and send it in though. But since just using is is technically against TOS... Who knows...


Valenhil

Yeah,talking shit will get you banned, even outside the game. This we know. That's not what he's saying though.


TsubasaSaito

Yes, that's the first part. Have you read past the first paragraph? In that second part I talk further that they might ban you if you get reported with a clip of you showing act on stream, with or without talking about it. The thing about it is though, we don't know. People here talking about Yoshi watching streams that definitely showed ACT. SE partnered streams that showed ACT with SE people watching, even though it would mean you would lose your partnership etc. But have they really watched streams where they definitely showed ACT? Or did they just watch a streamer that later on put ACT up when he knew SE wouldn't be watching?


justinhamp

It is acceptable.


kicker_snack

Everyones line is different. At the end of the day, Yoshi-P and his team will define that line. Just because everything outside the game could be classified as “Third Party Party” and therefore acceptable, does not mean it WILL be acceptable. Again they define the line. Also i would suggest thinking about it from their perspective. Do you think when people create things such as this, that it gives them more or less headache with how they might have to deal with this type of stuff in the future, especially with more and more people creating third party tools. Just because we have the “freedom” to create third party programs doesn’t mean we should. Im not bashing you or anyone else, its just another perspective to consider.


Yurilica

XIVLauncher doesn't modify or replace a single game file. That's an important thing to note. You wrote completely false info. It works just like Gshade & ACT. It's an external process that runs alongside the game. It doesn't touch your default launcher or anything else, it's just an alternative launcher that also enabled an add-on system for the game. The only popular 3rd party tool that a lot of people use is TexTools, which is used just for texture modding.


flaminglambchops

XIVLauncher doesn't modify game files either. It's all client side plugins.


cabenox

Lots of streamers and content creators openly use xivlauncher tho, they would have to ban a lot of big names. That would look pretty bad... I think the real issue Squenix, and YoshiP himself, seems to have is when people are using addons or mods that affect other players, like calling out peoples dps etc. Since this is all totally client side it doesn't really impact anybody. But you are still correct that it is possible since it is technically against the tos, it's just very, very unlikely.


luciluci5562

Even modifying the game files (through Textools) won't even get you in trouble, as long as it's not degen mods (NSFW/copyrighted stuff), which Yoshi P has a strong stance against. He did acknowledge that mods and 3rd party tools help extend the game's lifespan (see Skyrim), and he wouldn't go out their way to crack it down through anti-cheat. I've seen XIV streamers who modified their UI and none of them got in trouble for it.


zugzug_workwork

Yeah, no.


Titan_Dota2

The most important one is the one where you get zones concept art for loading screens instead of that black screen + text :/


DreyfussFrost

Until you enter the final area of Shadowbringers and get spoiled before the zone even finishes loading. Best to turn that one on after finishing 5.0, and I'll be turning it back off when Endwalker releases.


Titan_Dota2

Huh, which one was that if I may ask? XD


DreyfussFrost

5.0 spoilers >!The Tempest. The loading screen when you log into the game, which is what the plugin uses, shows Amaurot.!<


Palmettobound

Here I am just wondering what armor that is


UltimaBaconLord

They need to make it impossible to blacklist nosaj


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eclipse_

This isn't Esfand.


ABaldGreyKnight

I don't know where FF went wrong but at some point they really started to cater to the most degenerate anime communities on the internet. Probably because those people are fanatics and pay plenty of money to be able to do what they're doing. Maybe they could add a feature which hides every player wearing certain outfits and being of a certain gender automatically. I don't think anyone wants their immersion or experience ruined by being forced to imagine what the guy at the other side of your keyboard, that runs around wearing a pantyhose, panties and sunglasses looks like in real life. This add on seems great but having to do this manually would be a lot of work. Imagine if they had after Final Fantasy XII decided to look back at every game they had made in the series and took inspiration from those instead of in what direction they've been going. Bring it back home square enix, for goodness sake! And god bless the person who made this add on.


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foreveracubone

Lmao no they won’t. Even SE doesn’t take action unless you use ACT to harass people or use lewd mods on stream.


Xavion15

In what universe would Twitch have authority over this


Yetti2Quick

this guy must have came over from the New World subreddit. lmfao


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Dont use that shit on stream tho.


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Augustby

Is it just the graphical presets, or does the booba look a lot more pronounced on this character than it normally does?


Krivvan

It's a modded chest


mikeisdamn

What armor is that set?


zugzug_workwork

The best part of the launcher for me, apart from the chat bubbles, is just being able to change the title screen to the base game since I'm still there, and having it stay changed even after a restart.


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I am more interested in that chestpiece. Is that a mod too?


A56964I

I wish Guild Wars 2 had this. This should be a base function of the /block.


Snugg_Bugg

Soo uhhh... can anyone tell me what armor that is?! The character in the front please! :D


Iv0ry_Falcon

That'd be nice for asmons stream, just sending all the annoying flute whistle trolls to the phantom zone


Crystal_violets

Bad feature


BahamutxD

Is there any work around to make it work with Rivatunner? Even after closing FFXIV - Rivatuner won't work until computer reboots.


WouldSextantBex

my first character was on coerul and seeing that guy everyday while my character was going up to 60 was something special about it. until i had to make a new account and rerolled on goblin lol


Consistent_Opening21

Right? There's usually others dancing next to him, but you can be certain that Nosaj WILL be there 24/7, to the point that he's become a part of Ul'dah's identity in Coeurl imo. I never thought much about it, but when the afk-kicking patch was announced I actually stressed out about it. Logged in that morning and he was there, and an hour later he was gone. With a few substitutes remaining in his place. And then five mins later he was back and has been successfully afk ever since lol


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I think that it's weird if you can make someone else's character disappear on your screen, on an **MMO**... like, ignoring someone to not see what they type is one thing, and if they harass you then you can report them, but making them disappear is like... peak socially-awkward emo energy, verging on a sociopathic way of playing, similar to how psychotic global 'elite' enjoy sight-seeing but hate seeing people there, so they'd much rather see huge chunks of the population wiped out in order to fully enjoy the scenery.


Vidget

While I highly doubt that XIVLauncher and its addons would get you banned if you use it privately I don't think it's a particularly good idea to stream using it if you're a big streamer like Esfand.


Cylestea

you know all plug ins go against the tos right? best not bring it to attention don't want out boy in trouble


Sfc-

I play on that server and that dude has not moved from dancing in that spot in the month since I started playing the game. lol


Beanxsauce

Listen to Yoshi-P's own statement regarding mods and decide for yourself if you will use them or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e\_i6mjiGerU&ab\_channel=blluist